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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,16:34   

Us Americans being very America-centric, I tend to think of everyone here as being American, with a few exceptions like Faid and Stephen Elliot. And of course our Strine friend K.E.

We're a more diverse crowd that that, but I don't know how diverse. So where's everybody from?

Me: US, mostly Florida and North Carolina.

   
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,16:39   

The pinhead branch of this colloquium is located in Seattle (though the various branches of that family eventually trace back to the SE US--hillbilly "gap" country and Georgia).

  
MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,16:49   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 21 2006,16:34)
Us Americans being very America-centric

Not all of us Americans are Americentric.  This one isn't, but maybe that is because this one was born and raised in UK and used to live in Africa, and isn't a real American because he was naturalized.  :D

But now I am in Iowa for a while, via Cornell (and in case there any Iowans here, I mean the other Cornell, the one in upstate NY   :)

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stephenWells



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,16:53   

Born Zululand (South Africa), grew up in England, now in Arizona.

  
jujuquisp



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,16:54   

I'm from the best city in the USA, and possibly the world-----Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:04   

SF Bay Area/California Central Valley, going back three generations. (May not sound like much, but it's kind of rare here.)

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:18   

Born and raised in Pennsylvania.  Moved to Florida seven years ago.


Would *like* to live in the Amazon rainforest.    :)

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:25   

Born and raised in Baltimore, Md. (that makes me a 'Baltimoron'  :p ), moved to N. California (between SF and SJ) in the early 80's upon leaving the U of Md.

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Wonderpants



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:35   

Another UKer making his presence known.

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Bing



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:45   

I'm currently living in a small town outside of London, ON, Canada and  alum of UWO.  Go Stangs!

  
argystokes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,17:49   

I'm also from Seattle.  And am still here.

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Seizure Salad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:08   

Quote (Bing @ Dec. 21 2006,17:45)
I'm currently living in a small town outside of London, ON, Canada and  alum of UWO.  Go Stangs!

Also in London, Ontario Canada. Attending Fanshawe, not UWO.

  
Mike PSS



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:26   

Central Florida.  Via MN (UM grad), UK and GE (USAF), Vancouver Canada (THE best place in North America) and Madison, WI (THE second or third best place in NA).

I'm near Tampa so I pick a local radio station that is left winger socialist (88.5 Radio Active.  Lenny should know this one.) so I get exposed to both sides of crazy in the political pantheon.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:32   

Born in Lakeland, FL. 26 years in Florida.
Then off to Texas, Washington, Texas, and now California.

Update: Lansing, Michigan area now.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on April 19 2007,00:26

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creeky belly



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:39   

Seattle

Sounds like a couple of us are at the U perhaps....

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:51   

Ah wuz borned a po' mutant chile somewheres in this hyar solur sistem, possubly Uranus.

Okay -- New Mexico, originally, then Los Angeles. Soon, New Zealand -- the best place in the multiverses (hah! ).  :p

Edit -- I forgot to add: I like long walks in the rain, the poetry of Neruda and can drink soup from the head of a decaying horse. And I like kissing afterwards, too...mmm...sexah.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:52   

Good lord, 4 Florida, 3 Seattle, 2 London, Ontario. This is patterning weirdly, like some big triangle.

:O  :O

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:56   

Quote (Mike PSS @ Dec. 21 2006,18:26)
I'm near Tampa so I pick a local radio station that is left winger socialist (88.5 Radio Active.  Lenny should know this one.)

I listen every day.   :)

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,18:59   

Nice to see that Florida, the weirdest place in the known universe, is overrepresented here.

   
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:00   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Dec. 21 2006,18:52)
Good lord, 4 Florida, 3 Seattle, 2 London, Ontario. This is patterning weirdly, like some big triangle.

:O  :O

I spent a couple months in Seattle, back in 1989 while I was working for the Central America Peace Campaign.  

The detail I remember most clearly was that, in the University District,  on all the "USA Today" machines, some wag had added, "The World Tomorrow".

;)

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:02   

AHA! Arden is 3rd-gen central Kahl-ee-fornyahn (thanks Gov. Gropenfuhrer! )...now I suspect I may know why he abuses woodpeckers. :)

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:04   

Born in England, live in Chicago now.

Hoping for a Tardtopia.

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Shirley Knott



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:04   

Currently Madison, WI.
Looking back, greater Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Minneapolis, Kansas City (both), Portland OR, Raleigh NC, greater East Lansing MI area (MSU and extended environs), raised at the confluence of Iowa, South Dakota, and Nebraska.
Whew!

hugs,
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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:05   

Worse still, Arden, my mom was born and raised in Corcoran, CA (it was her parents that were from Georgia), my cousins are from Modesto and Livermore, my sisters live in Stockton and Berkeley, and... well, you get the idea.  There's definitely a Central Valley thing resonating here too.  *koff koff*  OK, enough with the heat, dust, and pesticides, already!

  
steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:17   

Originally Nottm, UK (Go magpies), then London (Go Smoke FC), Swindon (Go Robins), Rüegsauschachen, Switzerland (er, yay! ) and now near Basel, Switzerland (Hopp FCB).

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:32   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 21 2006,19:05)
Worse still, Arden, my mom was born and raised in Corcoran, CA (it was her parents that were from Georgia), my cousins are from Modesto and Livermore, my sisters live in Stockton and Berkeley, and... well, you get the idea.  There's definitely a Central Valley thing resonating here too.  *koff koff*  OK, enough with the heat, dust, and pesticides, already!

CORCORAN? ? ?


YEEEE-HAW!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:43   

Originally from the south island of 'The Land of the Long White Cloud' Ao Tea Roa or in Pakeha, New Zealand (go All Blacks) now in 'The Land of the Long Weekend' oar-stray-lee-yah, Australia (go All Blacks...snicker).

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The Wayward Hammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:43   

I am the opposite of AFDave - started in KC, ended up in Texas.  Can claim Illinois, Indiana and two incredibly long years in West Virginia on the resume.

  
Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:49   

Born in New Jersey.
Lived from age 5 to 29 in California.
Spent the next 15 years in the New Jersey/New York.
Past 10 years in Columbus, OH.

(But these days I spend half my time in New Jersey again).

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:54   

Southern California- currently in Dana Point about 3 blocks from the ocean.  I lived for 5 years (off and on) in Yucatan, Mexico, and for about 6 years in Augusta, Ga (AKA Disgusta) where I taught at the Medical College of Georgia.

As far as anyone can determine, 18th century immigrants from Scotland and France married into various combinations with some Native Americans for seasoning.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,19:58   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 21 2006,19:05)
There's definitely a Central Valley thing resonating here too.  *koff koff*  OK, enough with the heat, dust, and pesticides, already!

Don't forget Valley Fever!  I had it once when I worked on a cotton farm in Bakersfield.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,20:21   

Born and raised in Rochester NY.  I have been in Norman, OK for 10 years now after short stints in Boynton Beach, FL and Reading, PA and a longer stop in Columbus OH.

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lawman



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,20:51   

surfacing briefly. am from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia, born and raised here.
interestingly, there has been a bit of flap recently as some parents have discovered that "religionist" authors have inserted "..living things were created by God.." into a primary school text book. the minister of education has promised to look into the matter and resolve swiftly. will keep you updated on how that turns out....

  
argystokes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,21:21   

Quote (creeky belly @ Dec. 21 2006,16:39)
Seattle

Sounds like a couple of us are at the U perhaps....

Yep, finished undergrad there in 2005, now am in grad school, Pathobiology department.

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Art



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,21:39   

Illinois. Maine. Morocco. Germany. The Upper Peninsula. Texas. EMass.  NYC.  Kentucky.

"Where are you from?"  A question that stumps me every time.

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,21:43   

Philthadelphia, born and raised in the City of Brotherly Shove.

Good hunk of my adult life in Huntington WV.

Last two + years in Jacksonville, NC.

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snoeman



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,23:20   

Seattle.

Still get headaches every time I remember the DI is based here...

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2006,23:39   

Born in Alamosa, CO.  Basically a Kansas Citian most of my life, the saner Missouri side.  Have lived in Florida (Orlando and the armpit of the world--Daytona Beach) and now basically live in hotel rooms all across America.

Someone tell me AFDave isn't living in KC, please?  Please.

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Robert O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,00:21   

I am from San Mateo County, California. I have lived in CA all of my life except for brief stays in a few other states which I did not much care for.

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bfish



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,00:37   

I, too, am a California boy. Born and raised in Pasadena (Deadman, I know of which parrots you speak), spent four years north of Chicago, got to live in Toronto for a year, and for the last several years have lived near San Francisco, whose sparkling lights I see shimmering across the bay from my office window.

Ne'er so much as stepped foot in Florida.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,01:52   

Quote

[...] a few other states which I did not much care for [...]


I quite liked Hogtown and would go back in a heartbeat given a good opportunity. I'm sorry you didn't find it appealing.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Dec. 22 2006,01:53

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mcc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,02:58   

Either Houston or San Jose, depending on what you mean by "from".

  
Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,03:06   

I'm from Northern England near Manchester (not NH). The English garden party thread brought back several repressed memories from my childhood.

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,03:47   

SF Bay area via Indiana, Oregon, North Carolina, Massachusetts, and Venice Beach (which is a different world altogether).

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Renier



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,03:57   

Cape Town, South Africa. Best city in the world...

  
Altabin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,04:05   

Born UK (Bristol); childhood and adolescence in New Zealand; UK for grad school and real life for a decade or so; now in Indiana; on leave in Italy!

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bystander



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,04:38   

Aussie boy, Born and bred in Sydney and moved 140km south when the beaches got too crowded.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,05:32   

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Us Americans being very America-centric, I tend to think of everyone here as being American,


When you come out with remarks like:    
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somewhere it Europe, which means little.

that does not surprise me! :D  :D  :D

Warwickshire, UK originally, near Stratford-upon-Avon, (actually nearer Redditch, which older fans of Rick Mayall will, of course remember), Now just on the edge of the Pyrenees in Southern France.

  
Stephen Elliott



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,06:06   

Born in Liverpool, at age 4 moved to Wigan (both in NorthWest England).  Ages 16-40 was in the army (so all over the World).
Then 3 months in Afghanistan and now in Windsor SouthEast England.

  
improvius



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,08:18   

Quote (MidnightVoice @ Dec. 21 2006,17:49)
But now I am in Iowa for a while, via Cornell (and in case there any Iowans here, I mean the other Cornell, the one in upstate NY   :)

I'm in upstate NY now (and probably will be for a while).  More specifically, I'm in the city that finally sold its #!@&*!# ferry last night.

And oddly enough I, went to college in Iowa at the other other Cornell - Grinnell College.

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,08:59   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 21 2006,16:34)
And of course our Strine friend K.E.


k.e.,

I can't believe you let Steve get away with calling you "Strine."

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ppb



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,09:22   

I live in Lexington, Massachusetts.  Grew up in Upstate New York, then moved around a bit to Florida, Phoenix Arizona, and Tuebingen Germany before settling in the Boston area.

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Richard Simons



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,09:32   

Grew up mainly near Manchester, England. Then in Wales (Bangor, Aberystwyth). Since then mainly Canada (Ontario,  Manitoba, Alberta) but with 6 years in Namibia (which I'd happily go back to if the pay were half-way decent). Now in Manitoba, bracing myself for the winter (which is always way too cold, even if it is sunny).

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Wonderpants



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,09:54   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Dec. 22 2006,06:06)
now in Windsor SouthEast England.

Hey, I can see your house from here! (Kew)  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,10:21   

Grew up in NJ, spent a total of 12 years in Montana snowboarding and attending grad school off and on, recently moved to the Boston area.

  
MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,10:29   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 21 2006,20:21)
Born and raised in Rochester NY.  I have been in Norman, OK for 10 years now after short stints in Boynton Beach, FL and Reading, PA and a longer stop in Columbus OH.

I know Rochester well.  Go Bills!!

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bourgeois_rage



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,10:40   

Born in Toledo, OH and now I live in Cincinnati, OH. How boring!

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Ved



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,10:46   

Born in Charlottesville, VA... raised in Bucks County, PA. Now I'm in Philly. Nice and small for a big city...

  
lkeithlu



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,11:19   

Born in L.A. (not "Lower Alabama", but the real L.A.) and raised in the Panama Canal Zone. Lived since then in Sewanee Tennessee, located on the Cumberland Plateau (don't blink-you'll miss us!;) and still wonder how in the world I ended up here. Place grows on you, though.

I had no idea I was in the (virtual) presence of such an international bunch!

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,11:33   

Simply put, now live in London, UK.

Ripped untimely from my mother's womb in Poole, Dorset, UK. In Poole and environs until 18 then a host of UK locations over the last 14 years including (but not limited to) Leicester, Cambridge, Nottingham, Sittingbourne, Canterbury, London, Sandwich, Bath. Spent about year in Buffalo, NY (94/95, during the period when the Bills kept making it to the superbowl and messing it up), with brief periods in NYC and SF. Travelled all over the US except for the NW corner. Travelled all over Europe and love the place.

Louis

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,11:47   

Scotland. Have spent a couple of years in Sheffield and one in Manchester, am now back in Scotland and dont want to leave except for holidays.

I am still amazed that some of you think Manchester or Wigan is the north of England.  No, the north is Cumbria or Newcastle.  Manchester is only 3 hours drive (When teh roads are clear) from London, but its still nearly 3 hours up to Carlisle.

  
Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,13:06   

Well officially it's the North, especially to most of the Londoners who think everything north of Watford Gap is the North.

  
Stephen Elliott



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,13:36   

Quote (Wonderpants @ Dec. 22 2006,09:54)
Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Dec. 22 2006,06:06)
now in Windsor SouthEast England.

Hey, I can see your house from here! (Kew)  :D

Oh! Nice place, I love it round there. Richmond and Kew are among my favourite London destinations. Nice atmosphere around kew station with all those bars/cafes/restaurants with street seating. Some pleasant walking around Kew gardens, Richmond park and along the river.

EDIT: Guthrie,
Wigan, Manchester and Liverpool are definately considered to be North West England.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,13:56   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 22 2006,06:32)
When you come out with remarks like:    
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somewhere it Europe, which means little.

that does not surprise me! :D  :D  :D

I see I was misinterpreted there. I didn't mean that Europe means little, I meant simply knowing VMartin Davison's IP was registered in Europe meant little to me. Whereas an IP that tracked back to a specific place in Europe, say CERN, would mean a lot.

   
heddle



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,13:58   

Originally from Pittsburgh, PA. Have lived in Champaign IL, Va and Md suburbs of DC, Newport News VA, and now in New Hampshire. And before anyone asks: no, I don’t think my opinions about the places I have lived are any more authoritative than anyone else’s opinions.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,13:58   

First 18 years in Doncaster, last 13 in Seattle, with a few years in Durham, Birmingham and London in between.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,14:00   

Quote (keiths @ Dec. 22 2006,09:59)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 21 2006,16:34)
And of course our Strine friend K.E.


k.e.,

I can't believe you let Steve get away with calling you "Strine."

Everybody who talks like KE is Australian. In much the same way that all asians are either chinese or japanese.

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Khan : "We Laotian..."
Bill : "The ocean? What ocean?"
Khan : "FROM LAOS STUIPID! Its a land lock country in southeast Asia.."
Hank Hill : "So are you chinese or japanese?"

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,14:01   

Quote (Renier @ Dec. 22 2006,03:57)
Cape Town, South Africa. Best city in the world...

Jujuquisp from Milwaukee disagrees... :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,14:01   

I'm a "San Francisco Liberal" by way of being a "Boston Liberal."

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,15:31   

It seems a lot of us have lived in Upstate NY. Must be some sort of correlation here....  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,15:41   

I grew up in Detroit, Michigan. Currently I live in Virginia. Happy holidays to everyone! :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,16:03   

I was born and grew up in Zimbabwe, went to uni in the UK and stayed here, except for a year in Cape Town and 4 years in the SF Bay Area. I work (and have mostly worked) in London.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,17:05   

Let's stay on topic, please.

No more talk about where we, ugh, "work" (whatever that means...).

After all, this is a respectable family forum.

Most of the time. :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,17:40   

I've been splitting atoms for fun and profit in Toronto for almost two years, after five years of grad school and postdockery in Montreal.  Lived in Vancouver prior to that for most of my life (but was born in Montreal).

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,17:49   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2006,21:43)
Philthadelphia, born and raised in the City of Brotherly Shove.

Ha, we Allentownians also refer to it as "Filthy-delphia".   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,17:54   

Quote (heddle @ Dec. 22 2006,13:58)
Originally from Pittsburgh, PA.


(snip)


And before anyone asks: no, I don’t think my opinions about the places I have lived are any more authoritative than anyone else’s opinions.


But, having lived already in he!!, I can certainly see why you are so gung-ho about your religion.   ;)

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,18:11   

When you think about it, heddle, your opinions about places you've actually lived might well be entitled to more authority than the opinions of folks who've never been within miles of those places, much less lived there.

Prolonged residence affords opportunity for observation, experience, comparing, testing, weighing, hypothesizing and discarding hypotheses...  Forming educated opinions.  Y'know--real world stuff like that.

All stuff that mere belief in imaginary beings does NOT afford the opportunity for.  And why one person's opinion on such ineffable things is not worth more than any other person's.

Epiphany?  Eh, I thought not...

You may "he11" from Pittsburgh, but you're still, um,  farfar more at home in LaLaLand.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,18:25   

Blipey,

As I understand it, AFDave now lives near KC somewhere - maybe near Whiteman AFB?  Maybe in the limestone caves?

Lou FCD - Huntington, WV?  My two year sentence to WV was spent in Milton.  Huntington was OK for, as a co-worker once told, "a one horse town that shot the horse twenty years ago and was still in mourning."

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,18:30   

Now, now, just because I was a tad uncharitable to heddle--and practically on Christmas Eve!--is no need for us to stoop to insults all around!

I'm sure they still get a lot of use out of that old horse in Huntington: there's glue, mattress stuffing, something to stick over the mantle in lieu of a moosehead...

Not to mention that playing horseshoes is a lot safer than playing with hand grenades!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,18:30   

Quote (Art @ Dec. 21 2006,21:39)
"Where are you from?"  A question that stumps me every time.

Me too, but I'm not quite that widespread.

For me just Louisiana, Arkansas, and Tenessee. But multiple places within each state. With a brief stint as a kid in Augsburg, Germany when my dad was in the Army. But still, I have to generalize when people ask "Where are you from?" I usually think, "I'm and earthling, of course."

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,21:17   

Quote (keiths @ Dec. 22 2006,08:59)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 21 2006,16:34)
And of course our Strine friend K.E.


k.e.,

I can't believe you let Steve get away with calling you "Strine."

Wakes up....yeah thanks for reminding me!

I've been here so long I'm now 'a bloody loud mouthed Ozzie' as my fellow Kiwis would say.

Although the use of the word 'strine' to describe one of oarstrayleeyan nationality would be a neologism, when it normally means colloquial spoken Australian English, I fully understood that Steve S actually meant 'Ozzie'.

Now since there are a few Ozzies here, I ...ah how shall I say this .....don't want to further the traditional 'friendly' cross ditch (Tasman Sea)  colonial cousin rivalry.
And don't laff about the  'colonial cousin' both our countries still have the Queen of England as the titular head of state, along with Canada incidentally. It's the Brits who are to blame for all this, if Cornwallis had been a bit more vicious chasing down and 'pacifying' those revolting Yanks, the the Head of the Church of England would be King of World.....cut to scene where the last Redcoat Officer excuses himself from high dinner, apologizes for losing the British Empire and goes into the library and shoots himself, while the butler solemnly hands everyone else  brandy and cigars.

Except of course if it is Friday night after a few cold ones. Where they accuse us of 'coming over here showing up at their barbecues drinking all their beer and stealing their wimin' all the while making the same old tired joke about us being sheep shaggers.

Well I only have one thing to say ....thanks for the beer and the girls ....I enjoyed them all, heck I'm practically  married to one (for 22 years) and have 2 fine Ozzie daughters. Although the eldest found out she can get an EU passport by way of her Irish grandparents and now thinks she's ...smarter and prettier than me, scoff....age and cunning beat youth and beauty.. reminder to self... need to move that mirror....

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,21:24   

Oy!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,22:10   

Quote (heddle @ Dec. 22 2006,13:58)
Originally from Pittsburgh, PA. Have lived in Champaign IL, Va and Md suburbs of DC, Newport News VA, and now in New Hampshire. And before anyone asks: no, I don’t think my opinions about the places I have lived are any more authoritative than anyone else’s opinions.

Arf!

I doth my Tard-cap, sir.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,03:44   

Another Brit: brought up in Scunthorpe (born on the Wirral, parents moved when I was two.  Luckily they took me with them).  Such an awful place I tried to get as far away from it as I could: now in Helsinki (Finland), via Denmark.

My brother also escaped Scunthorpe, and now lives in Slough...

Bob

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,04:13   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 22 2006,17:05)
Let's stay on topic, please.

No more talk about where we, ugh, "work" (whatever that means...).

After all, this is a respectable family forum.

Most of the time. :p

My bad -- it just slipped out. Does "get paid to surf the interweb" sound better?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,04:21   

Yet another Seattleite raises a tentative, non-confrontational hand. Though originally from the Boston arear (yeah, that's the right spellin - whatayou, a re-tahd?), then Colorado, Chicago, and (briefly) Corvallis, OR.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,04:34   

I was born in Annecy, France (50 kms from Geneva).
Now I live in Brittany.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,05:30   

London originally, now i'm "sunning"* myself down by the south coast of England.

* it's not really all that sunny!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,06:02   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Dec. 22 2006,17:49)
   
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2006,21:43)
Philthadelphia, born and raised in the City of Brotherly Shove.

Ha, we Allentownians also refer to it as "Filthy-delphia".   ;)

And we Philthadelphians refer to Allentown as "Dorney Park".

:p

 
Quote (The Wayward Hammer @ Dec. 22 2006,18:25)
Lou FCD - Huntington, WV?  My two year sentence to WV was spent in Milton.  Huntington was OK for, as a co-worker once told, "a one horse town that shot the horse twenty years ago and was still in mourning."


Yeah, they're still smarting over that whole mall fiasco.  Idiots.

I wound up there because my wife was from there and Louisa, KY.  (I met her in Columbus, OH)

On the bright side, I spent a year and a half at Marshall working on a physics degree during the years we were divorced (we're re-married now).  

On the down side, working at a bar (Mulligan's on 3rd Ave.) to pay my way didn't do wonders for my college education and I dropped out.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2006,09:58   

Born in the Cleveland area, and currently reside in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2006,01:19   

Quote (jeannot @ Dec. 23 2006,04:34)
I was born in Annecy, France (50 kms from Geneva).
Now I live in Brittany.

Do you ever hear any Breton spoken where you are, or is it pretty much gone now?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2006,20:06   

I live north of Knoxville, TN.  Born in Tonawanda, NY (outside Buffalo), moved to Terre Haute, IN, college in Cincinnati then 20 years in rural Kentucky.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,15:23   

Sounds like we may have enough Seattleites to take the "virtual" pub real some night...

Maybe when it quits raining cats and dogs (and dogs giving birth to cats...).

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,16:51   

Jumping in late - I'm in Vauxhall in London. Would be nice to see more Londoners here - though I guess I'm a bit of an impostor as actually I'm from Birmingham. Totally not a scientist but v interested in everything evolutionary.

One thing that interests me is how old people are. Through the anonymity of the net everyone seems to me to be the same age as me (34) but Russell's post reminded me that that's not the case. (Kudos to Russell and many others incidentally for their contributions to the afdave thread)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,18:18   

Quote (Roland Anderson @ Dec. 26 2006,16:51)
One thing that interests me is how old people are.

I turn 46 in February.

But I've always *acted* like I was still 19.  And hope I always will.       ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,19:04   

Age 43.5

I'm also interested in what everyone does professionally.  I have been a technical writer for the last seven years.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,19:55   

Quote (ScaryFacts @ Dec. 26 2006,19:04)
I'm also interested in what everyone does professionally.  I have been a technical writer for the last seven years.

By day, I work in an optics lab, making and installing prescription lenses for scuba diving masks.

By night, I write books on exotic pets, and am currently working out the logistics on another, um, project involving publishing.

I'm betting that your technical writing pays an awful lot more than my exotic-pet writing does.    ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2006,21:11   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Dec. 26 2006,20:55)
 I'm betting that your technical writing pays an awful lot more than my exotic-pet writing does.    ;)

Yeah, I'm loaded.  While just the other day Bill and I were out on my yacht and he said to me “Kevin, you know I wish I had been a writer like you instead of doing this whole ‘Microsoft’ thing.  You really have the life.”

I was just about to make a smart comment when my assistant ran up with an urgent call from Trump.  He needed some advice about what to do on the Miss USA fiasco.  Then, talk about co-incidence, Warren Buffet called Bill (they’re old friends) trying to get my number for some investment advice.  I got off the phone with ‘The Donald’ and Bill handed me his phone.

Yeah, this technical writing, it’s the best.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,03:06   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Dec. 22 2006,14:01)
Quote (Renier @ Dec. 22 2006,03:57)
Cape Town, South Africa. Best city in the world...

Jujuquisp from Milwaukee disagrees... :p

... and that just proves that nobody is perfect :-p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,04:34   

Born in South Africa to multi-national parents.

Brought up in South Africa, Zambia, Zimbabwe, UAE, Sri-Lanka, Bangladesh, Cyprus, The Phillipines and the UK.

Currently live in Kingston-upon-Thames, UK.

In other words, I'm not really from anywhere.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,04:47   

Quote (Roland Anderson @ Dec. 26 2006,16:51)
Jumping in late - I'm in Vauxhall in London. Would be nice to see more Londoners here - though I guess I'm a bit of an impostor as actually I'm from Birmingham. Totally not a scientist but v interested in everything evolutionary.

One thing that interests me is how old people are. Through the anonymity of the net everyone seems to me to be the same age as me (34) but Russell's post reminded me that that's not the case. (Kudos to Russell and many others incidentally for their contributions to the afdave thread)

45 in February. Almost live in London. Windsor aint so far. Got a cousin in Kennington (pretty much next to the Oval) which is #### close to Vauxhall.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,05:02   

I used to teach French, German and history at a radical boarding school, then I sold pianos at Harrods, then I taught piano, cello and singing and conducted various choirs, then I trained as a chartered accountant and now I work for a music company in the finance department. I've always been fiercely interested in anything scientific ever since I saw a Horizon programme about the Voyager spacecraft.

Nice to have a week off before new year. Ach, Kennington might be near Vauxhall but does it have our murder rate? And I bet we wouldn't have been burgled nearly as effectively last year if we'd lived in Kennington.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,05:43   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Dec. 27 2006,04:47)
Almost live in London. Windsor aint so far. Got a cousin in Kennington (pretty much next to the Oval) which is #### close to Vauxhall.

Heh. I'm sat in my office in Winkfield at the mo, several miles out of Windsor.

Go into Windsor all the time for lunch n stuff.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,10:27   

Quote (Roland Anderson @ Dec. 26 2006,16:51)
One thing that interests me is how old people are.

39 (or as I like to think of it, about to turn 19 for the 22nd time in a row)

   
Quote (The Good Reverend Doctor @ Dec. 26 2006,18:18)
But I've always *acted* like I was still 19.  And hope I always will.


I'll echo that sentiment.  (I guess I just did.)

   
Quote (ScaryFacts @ Dec. 26 2006,19:04)
I'm also interested in what everyone does professionally.


I was an electrician before my involuntary career change.  Now I'm just a cripple with way too much time on my hands and high speed internet access.  A Scary Fact, as it were.

:D

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,11:22   

Quote (Roland Anderson @ Dec. 26 2006,16:51)
Jumping in late - I'm in Vauxhall in London. Would be nice to see more Londoners here - though I guess I'm a bit of an impostor as actually I'm from Birmingham. Totally not a scientist but v interested in everything evolutionary.

One thing that interests me is how old people are. Through the anonymity of the net everyone seems to me to be the same age as me (34) but Russell's post reminded me that that's not the case. (Kudos to Russell and many others incidentally for their contributions to the afdave thread)

Born in Handsworth, and lived in S. Ken, West Ken, Clapham Junction, Putney, Herne Hill, Dulwich, Wandsworth and Balham over the course of 20 years  :D

And I am a bichemist working on nutrition (sort of), and am rapidly approaching 60.  Which probably makes me one of the oldest farts you will meet on message boards.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,15:06   

Quote (Tim @ Dec. 27 2006,05:43)
Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Dec. 27 2006,04:47)
Almost live in London. Windsor aint so far. Got a cousin in Kennington (pretty much next to the Oval) which is #### close to Vauxhall.

Heh. I'm sat in my office in Winkfield at the mo, several miles out of Windsor.

Go into Windsor all the time for lunch n stuff.

Well if you wanna meet up for a beer and a laugh about ID let me know.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,15:39   

We can't let those Brits beat us to the brew!

By dint of careful counting (no toes were injured during this process), I've got the Seattle contingent numbering at least six:

Da Pinhead.
argystokes
creeky belly
snoeman
JohnW
clamboy

Surely that's enough to hoist a few (or foist a hew)?

The Barking Dog?  The Hilltop Alehouse?  Weeknight?  Weekend?  Broad daylight?

Heck, we could give the DI a call and see if they would like to send a rep (but only if they promise to imbibe the Beano first...).

Oh: 56; lawyer defending civil cases...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,15:59   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 27 2006,13:39)
We can't let those Brits beat us to the brew!

By dint of careful counting (no toes were injured during this process), I've got the Seattle contingent numbering at least six:

Da Pinhead.
argystokes
creeky belly
snoeman
JohnW
clamboy

Surely that's enough to hoist a few (or foist a hew)?

The Barking Dog?  The Hilltop Alehouse?  Weeknight?  Weekend?  Broad daylight?

Heck, we could give the DI a call and see if they would like to send a rep (but only if they promise to imbibe the Beano first...).

Oh: 56; lawyer defending civil cases...

evenings are probably best for me, weekend or otherwise.

Oh, and grad student, 23 yo.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,16:36   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 27 2006,15:39)
We can't let those Brits beat us to the brew!

Too late colonial. We have already done it. A few of us met up and got drunk in London.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,17:07   

I was in crops research until I was laid off as part of a government cut-back. Then taught and helped establish Faculty of Agriculture at University of Namibia. Now I'm going in to more or less remote communities in Manitoba (currently Oxford House, 170 km from nearest road of any kind) to teach maths etc to education students (I picked up a maths degree along the way). Oh, and I'm in my late 50s.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,17:24   

Stephen Elliott:
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Too late colonial. We have already done it. A few of us met up and got drunk in London.


Fortunately for us, we're not required to meet your pathetic level of detail...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,17:51   

What you mean you dont have to get drunk?
That kind of detail?

I'm 29.  CHemistry degree, several years crap temp jobs, currently working as a materials technologist at a place that makes furnace insulation.  Another year or two and I should know enough to make it worthwhile moving elsewhere and getting a better job.  
Surely I'm not the youngest on here?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,20:51   

46

Same EXACT birthday as Dembski

Oooohhh, the shame....

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,01:32   

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Fortunately for us, we're not required to meet your pathetic level of detail...


Bwahahahaaaaaaa. Cower brief colonial mortal! You are not required to meet our pathetic level of detail, but you are required to meet our impressive level of alcoholism.

I, yes I, was one of those happy few who met for beers in London. I had a pint of weak shandy before Mummy called to make sure I was home in bed before nine. Beat THAT!

Louis

P.S. 32 research scientist, specifically a synthetic organic chemist (i.e. I make drugs).

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,03:12   

33, Systems Analyst and professional beer drinker. Say, what hobbies do you blokes have, apart from drinking, that is?

I know Lenny is into being bitten by rare critters.... whatever makes you happy   :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,04:02   

Hobbies - rugby mainly. Am cross at missing last London shandy. Plans for another?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,04:11   

33, write software for big evil bank.

Hobbies - kite boarding, skiing, constantly being stunned by the mind-numbing stupidity of my creationist colleague that I sit next to every day which got me started on this whole evolution learning frenzy.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,06:29   

Last time anyone asked about hobbies, it turned out that a surprising number of us had been or were involved in re-enacting.  I also like to go hillwalking.  
And I have a livejournal detailing my exploration of medieval technology and alchemy.  Its great being a mad scientist.  Now if only I could find a girlfriend...
http://calcinations.livejournal.com/

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,06:34   

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Last time anyone asked about hobbies, it turned out that a surprising number of us had been or were involved in re-enacting.


Drat, that might have been me bringing up the topic. Oh well, take 2, it is however interesting to hear (read) what people do in their spare time.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,07:01   

Quote (Renier @ Dec. 28 2006,03:12)
33, Systems Analyst and professional beer drinker. Say, what hobbies do you blokes have, apart from drinking, that is?

I know Lenny is into being bitten by rare critters.... whatever makes you happy   :p

I try to *avoid* being bitten by rare critters.   Usually successfully.  ;)

I also homebrew my own beer (a porter I named "Viking Piss").  Do lots of kayaking and hiking (I build my own kayaks).  Used to do Viking and Saxon re-enactment years ago (a couple years ago I built a little trebuchet for the neighbor's kids -- they used it to toss grapes over the house).  Am currently working on setting up a small micro-publishing-company.

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Renier



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,07:29   

As some people here already know, I am still quite heavily involved in re-enactment. Also do spearfishing...

Well then, since we are *introducing* ourselves a bit, anyone want to volunteer some info on what music they like? As for me: Rammstein, Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc, mixed in with some old Goth... Led Zeppelin, Nightwish....

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,08:35   

As others are revealing their mode of employment:

I am a high school Chemistry teacher; I've also taught Physics and can teach Geology. I work in an Episcopal boarding school, in a tiny blue dot imbedded in a very red state. I've been school disciplinarian for almost four years (in addition to a full class load), a position I have a lot of passion for but can't stand to do and would dump in a heartbeat to return to only teaching.

Got several hobbies, one I'm pretty good at (cooking) and many that I enjoy anyway (scuba, flute, hiking)

My music preferences are a source of embarassment, so I'll leave those out.

KL

  
snoeman



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,10:50   

Quote (argystokes @ Dec. 27 2006,15:59)
 
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 27 2006,13:39)
We can't let those Brits beat us to the brew!

By dint of careful counting (no toes were injured during this process), I've got the Seattle contingent numbering at least six:

Da Pinhead.
argystokes
creeky belly
snoeman
JohnW
clamboy

Surely that's enough to hoist a few (or foist a hew)?

The Barking Dog?  The Hilltop Alehouse?  Weeknight?  Weekend?  Broad daylight?

Heck, we could give the DI a call and see if they would like to send a rep (but only if they promise to imbibe the Beano first...).

Oh: 56; lawyer defending civil cases...

evenings are probably best for me, weekend or otherwise.

Oh, and grad student, 23 yo.

I'd be up for the Hilltop Alehouse.  Just about any evening works for me, except for - oddly enough - Fridays.

38 y.o., btw, doing R&D for a logistics company.  (really)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,10:56   

44.

Working as a linguist in designing language instruction materials.

(It's more elaborate than that, really, but that'll do for now.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,11:02   

I'm a 41 year old supply chain manager in the electronics industry.  My hobbies are bicycle riding, horseback riding, and reading, although since I bought a rundown horse property four years ago I have done precious little of any of them.  My music tastes are all over the place.  In terms of number of songs on my iPod, the top artists are Metallica, Allison Krauss and Union Station, The Rolling Stones, Willie Nelson, Dwight Yoakam, and Emmylou Harris.  But even that doesn't really even capture how utterly wierd my tastes are.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,12:53   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 27 2006,15:39)
We can't let those Brits beat us to the brew!

By dint of careful counting (no toes were injured during this process), I've got the Seattle contingent numbering at least six:

Da Pinhead.
argystokes
creeky belly
snoeman
JohnW
clamboy

Surely that's enough to hoist a few (or foist a hew)?

The Barking Dog?  The Hilltop Alehouse?  Weeknight?  Weekend?  Broad daylight?

Heck, we could give the DI a call and see if they would like to send a rep (but only if they promise to imbibe the Beano first...).

Oh: 56; lawyer defending civil cases...

I live in Seattle and I'm British, so that gets me two beers.  Either of the above would be fine - 74th Street Alehouse would be even better as it's only a short lurch from home.

And to continue the intro:
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Biostatistician
Jazz//free improv/blues listener, cyclist, and amateur astronomer who's eagerly awaiting Dave's explanation for why we can see all those galaxies.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,13:10   

58, marine biologist; Portland, Oregon. I deal with offshore fishing regulations and policy.

Music: Right now I'm listening to Bob Dylan. I missed the iron maiden time but I do have one Judas Priest song on my mp3 list at the moment (you've got another thing coming). Django Reinhart, Doc Watson, Arlo Guthrie, Led Zeppelin, Janice Joplin, The gorillas, Nirvana, Cat Power, Portishead, Dave Carter (points to anyone who knows that one), The Doors, Jimi, Greatful Dead, Black Sabbath, Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, Michelle Shocked, and other similar things.

Hobbies: Songwriting, guitar, piano, painting, drawing, writing, grampa-ing, fishing, meditating, scuba (less of that these days), sailing, woodworking and other similar things.

Favorite books: Catch-22, Where the sidewalk ends, Another Roadside Attraction, Botany of Desire, Cosmos, Cat's Cradle, From Here to Eternity, Old Man and the Sea.

Religion: Unitarian (I do try to practice buddism but that isn't really religion the way I do it)

I was raised in the Cascades at the foot of Mt. Pilchuck above Lake Roesiger if anyone knows where that is. It was extremely remote in the 50's and 60's. Loggers and ,.. um.. .well, I guess that's all there was.

Lot's of colleges but BA Political Science and BFA Ceramics U.W. MS Marine Biology WWU. Long time ago.

I have held many other jobs: Butcher, Mural Artist, Graphic Artist (pre computers), and marketing consultant.

Also, if anyone has any photos of Lake Kelcema (the old boy scout camp up the mt. loop highway before big-4)I would love to see them. I climed the cliff on the opposite shore when I was young without ropes and it has grown to several thousand feet in my mind. I would love to know how big it really is.

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,13:36   

BWE, try this--
http://www.webshots.com/search?query=Kelcema+Lake
The first picture, labelled "Lake Kelcema," shows a cliff above a talus field.
If that's the one, it's not thousands of feet high, but it looks like a respectable short climb: high-level scramble or lower fifth-class technical shot!

I'm a limited kind of "re-enactor": I draw/paint and sometimes carve/fashion traditional Northwest Coast native-style designs/objects (not for sale, just for "learning by doing" and sharing with the similarly obsessed).  I read just about everything I can get my hands on that relates to NW Coast art and culture (and am more broadly interested in Indian art and culture, but the NWC is my, ahem, "specialty").

I also draw/paint generally, whatever that means; hike, climb, ski, and snowshoe (I'm a mountaineering instructor for a volunteer organization); play guitar with some composition/improvisation; in the past, I have jumped horses, ridden motorcycles, fenced, run track and cross-country, and blah blah (in my mind, if I've ever done it, I might still do it again, but this gets further from reality as I grow older...).

I enjoy Neil Young, Jimi, Allison Krause, Dwight Yoakam, Emmylou, the Dandy Warhols, the
Everlys, Steve Earle, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk violin, dobro, Hawaiian, pretty eclectic (I'd like to think).

And ridiculing IDiots, of course.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,14:03   

sonofabitch. Thank you. That talus slope consits of boulders much, much bigger than I am. Each one of them was a small scramble in itself. The trees are mostly yellow cedar (don't go all science on me, I grew up near there and that's what I call them dammit) quite mature around 100 ft and Western Hemlock, also quite mature around 150 ft.

You might notice that the trees at the shore are way bigger than the ones on the cliff. That would put the face at well over 200 ft. No? Anyway, there are places where it is inverted to more than 90'. It was a defining moment for me, that's for sure.


You can click the picture for a larger view. Wow. Thanks, I really mean it.

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,14:17   

Hey, no problem!

I didn't take a real close look, and I don't think I've actually been there.  But if we assume boulder-sized talus and 100-foot trees, then the cliff could easily be several hundred feet.  And I wouldn't argue that climbing it unroped as a youngster might very well have been a defining moment, especially if it leans out to 90 degrees in spots!  Nice climbing!

But, uh, aw shucks (to quote Jimi), all I did was google "lake kelcema photo" and open the first four or five hits.  (And pinheads aren't even especially good at googling, tho' we gurgle and gargle exceptionally well.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,14:25   

I guess I shall have to destroy my virgin status (on this forum) with this post.

I live in Saskatchewan, (try saying that fast 5 times) Canada, currently own my own computer service and sales company, have a B.Sc. in CS, a B.A. in Psych and have been everything from a mechanic's apprentice to the manager of a retail chain outlet.

I've been honing my skill* on t.o. for the last 4 years with a side branch to the FreeRepublic 'Crevo wars' and helped start darwincentral.org.

My hobbies used to consist of music - particularly playing the guitar and listening to Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Pat Metheny and a couple dozen other metal/jazz/blues bands and artists -, reading SF, playing with my grandson and talking to my wife. Now my hobby is attacking the stupid ideas of CrIDers, making sure lurkers get the correct information and playing with my grandson. I think my wife is getting jealous. :O

Oh yes, I'm 51 years old, act 19 at times but feel 80 all the time.

*My single skill is the ability to quickly look up on the WEB the meaning of Wilkins' attempts at puns. I'm still working on the replies to those puns. They may be ready in 2008.
:D

PS. Has anyone here seen Lenny's pizza delivery guy? I need to update my knowledge on the lastest religious beliefs.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,15:05   

Wow.. another guitar player. Surely this is proof for ID?

speaking of which.. I gots me a new axe.



That's a one off fender custom shop Moto Tele, masterbuilt.

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Gary Bohn



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,15:22   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 28 2006,15:05)
Wow.. another guitar player. Surely this is proof for ID?

speaking of which.. I gots me a new axe.

Thats a one of fender custom shop Moto Tele, masterbuilt.


I'm jealous.

I own a number of axes, including an American built Peavey EVH with birds eye maple neck (beautiful action), a vintage Steinberger and a vintage Jackson Fusion Pro with stock active electronics.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,15:28   

Loads of us here are players. I'm going to start a thread, I think.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,17:45   

I'm a coy 40-ish archaeologist/writer/artist ( watercolors, oils) with eclectic musical tastes ranging from classical to LZ, blues and lots else. I hate richardhughes ( well, maybe that's a strong word--I ENVY him *weeps*)  and I want to steal his guitar, because I also play, mainly blues and folk or rock...I like fingerpickin'. I also ( as I mentioned earlier) enjoy long romantic walks in the rain and fluffy bunnies and long passionate kisses. Write me if you're into necrophilia and rolling in molasses and humus nekkie.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,17:51   

By the way, I hate non-fluffy bunnies..I've bitten the heads off non-fluffy bunnies just to spite them. But my doctor says I'm better now.

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ScaryFacts



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,18:07   

Hey, I play too.  Unfortunately, so does my 21 year old son--so my guitar money went to buy his Martin acoustic and PRS electric.  Oh, and the amps.  All the amps.

So I keep playing my Takamine.

Favorite group?  Bare Naked Ladies.

Other groups I like (all oldies but goodies):

BTO (when they weren't stoned), Blue Oyster Cult, ZZ top, Grand Funk Railroad, CCR, Dobbie Brothers, Chicago

Hobbies:  I practice the ancient art of Fee Shin, wieght lifting (when I was younger I called it "body building" but at 43 it's more like "fat control"), playing my guitar, hiking, travel (hotel camping), drinking to quiet the voices in my head.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,18:53   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 28 2006,15:28)
Loads of us here are players. I'm going to start a thread, I think.

Well, I know four or five chords.   :)

Actually, I taught myself to play guitar, way back in my union organizing days, so I could, of all things, sing old Wobbly strike songs on the picket line.  Seriously.

It was also a great way to pick up girls at rallies and demonstrations.  (big fat evil grin)

My favorite bands have always been Judas Priest, Metallica, and Megadeth.   I, uh, can't play any of those, though.   If I could, it would have been a different manner of girl I would have been picking up, I'd bet.       :)

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,19:01   

My guitar of choice is a Garrison, which you can find here: http://www.garrisonguitars.com They sound great, comparable to others costing MUCH, much more...and they can be had for 200 bucks at places like http://www.wwbw.com/Garriso....sic?t=1

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,20:54   

It sure is a pretty gee-tar.

But they're out of 'em at that price, and probably at any price.  It was a mfg's close-out.   And they do be closed out!

Dang, 'cause it sure was a pretty gee-tar...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,22:48   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 28 2006,20:54)
It sure is a pretty gee-tar.

But they're out of 'em at that price, and probably at any price.  It was a mfg's close-out.   And they do be closed out!

Dang, 'cause it sure was a pretty gee-tar...

But it's not THE world's prettiest guitar. As I pointed out last summer, that title belongs to this:


As played by, oh, I dunno, THIS man:



or maybe THIS guy:


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,22:58   

This newfound vulnerability is an interesting development.  I happen to be a clinical psychologist, mid 50's, although my relatively recent dissertation concerned the evolutionary basis of 'theory of mind' in human beings.  

My instrument is piano, and I once fancied myself a composer, although more recently I have struggled with intermediate level classical stuff such as Debussy's Suite Bergamas, a Brahms intermezzo, etc. (any one of which takes me months to master.  By the time I learn one composition I've forgotten the last. Hence I keep my day job.) I envy the guitar - but if you play guitar and not piano, you might envy the piano, too.  

Musical tastes: Frank Zappa and the early Mothers of Invention (Uncle Meat, Lumpy Gravy, etc., but also Civilization, Phaze III and many other aspects of his work), many varieties of classical music, Leanard Cohen (particularly "The Future," which is the stuff creos ought to fear), Tord Guftavsen's sleepy jazz piano trio, some stuff like Cold Play and even Lady Sovereign* (witty stuff; I have a teenage kid so get to hear all manner of stuff with which I otherwise would never cross paths). Related hobby: a stereo system contructed from 50 year old components (tubes etc.). "Reciprocating Bill" actually derives from that hobby (University "reciprocating flare" mid range and high frequency horns from the early 50's, exemplified by my avatar).

* To all you lurkers from UD who may be reading this stuff: "If you love me then, Thank You!  If you hate me then, Fuck You!" - Lady S.O.V.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,23:07   

I was born in Bogota, Colombia; moved to Las Vegas at 12, so it's not my fault. I stayed here most of my life os that's my fault. Studied off and on (anthro and chem), mostly off, 'cause it was the sixties and seventies and the eighties. . . I'm 56. I worked for years as a free-lance interpreter (Spanish) and now work as a staff interpreter. . .I guess it's a real job. I play guitar (some off brand acoustic steell string, a Yamaha classical with a piezo, which I think of as my main ax if I had a main ax, which I do, in my dreams, and a cobbled together from random necks and bodies w/DiMarzios for more delicate work), classical and rock, with some formal composition and theory. I listen as behooves my old fart status to Crimso, Miles, Hendrix, Ravi, Bach, Tool, Beethoven, Warren Zevon, Tim & Jeff Buckley, Tom Waits oh, ####, a lot of stuff, and read Borges, Nabokov and Garcia Marquez (Jumping Jehosaphat, I was going to hyphenate that, may the goddess Caffeina forgive my arrant knavery . . . work's been rough, what with Mexican Midget Matadors and the odd Cuban one legged transvestite bank robber), I think I'm Presbyterian but for the whole pesky Calvinist thing, and admire the Founding Fathers, Bolivar, Darwin, Cate Blanchett in pointy ears and Kate Beckinsale in leather.

Ra-Ul, who has a cool sig file somewhere in cyberspace quoting Poe and Valery. . .

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,00:30   

Well Ra-Úl... Nabokov AND Garcia Marquez! Doffs hat.

...you may know this but one of the claims to fame for Howard Ahmanson Jr (A major DI backer) is that he contributed $62,500 to the Western Center for Law and Religious Freedom which aided the citizens and leaders of the Kern County school district defend their choice to ban One Hundred Years of Solitude, a book by Gabriel García Márquez, for its "profanity" and "vulgarity." (Other Ahmanson political initiatives and their results are discussed in Blumenthal's 2004 Salon article.)

The fact that the book is a thinly disguised tale based on the Old Testament and uses magical realism mixed with more objective language that shows how Mtyhs are created may be the real reason.


Howard Ahmanson, Jr.

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Ra-Úl



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,01:06   

ke:

Gotta love that Howie! I used to go to the city library (when we had only one) and read Lolita when I was 16, because it had been banned. Ditto Lawrence, who bored me, and just about anything I wasn't supposed to read. Read Don Quixote at eleven, but so did most of my friends (in Spanish editions the back section has a great guide to the different oaths curses and insults in the book. It's a great idea that should be used in all editions of Shakespeare) so I thought I should be able to read whatever I wanted. Dylan Thomas made me want to write, Marquez reinforced that in Spanish. I write in English only, though. My Spanish can't touch my English and it certainly does not come up to mi\y idea of decent prose.


Ra-Ul

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,02:25   

I find it a tad strange that so many of us as a % share common hobbies that are quite minority interests in the general population.

I enjoy re-enactment (English civil war for me), cycling, walking and reading.

Have done Karate, kickboxing, fencing, rugby and many more. At present I am trying to learn guitar, I know a few open cords but cannot barr to save my life. Just cannot manage to put enough pressure over all strings. Now I am atempting to learn to read sheet music and play the harmony notes. Have no idea why I am doing this.

My music tastes are just too wide ranging to list here but include Rock, Blues, Country, Classical including some opera, Popular and a bit of World music.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,02:46   

Someone may remember this.
Years ago an English TV comedy had a fantasy scene where the main character is learning the guitar. I don't remember all the details but the book he was learning from didn't have the finger guides (if that’s what you call them) so (in his dream) he takes the publisher to court.
He calls as witnesses Carlos Santana, Keith Richards and a couple of other 'guitar gods', the show was years ago so I can't remember who the others were.

The Funniest part was where Carlos Santana ‘demonstrates’ to the Judge that you have to have finger guides and starts one of his solos which goes on and on and on...and on . The minute hand on the clock circles a couple of times and the judge falls asleep. The others get in the witness stand and the judge finally rules in favor of the dreamer who then wakes up realizing he would never get his heroes to support him in court. The irony of course was that all the guitarists did appear as themselves on the show.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,04:06   

stevie: did you try to order at http://www.wwbw.com/Garriso....sic?t=1  ? I went through most of the credit-card checkout and it didn't say anything about being out of the guitars. If so, sorry. It's not just that it looks good, the bracing is a one-piece glass fiber thing that makes it sound as good as guitars in the 1,000-buck range, or more, I suppose. I tried one at a shop here and was hooked immediately.

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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,11:09   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Dec. 28 2006,22:48)
 
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 28 2006,20:54)
It sure is a pretty gee-tar.

But they're out of 'em at that price, and probably at any price.  It was a mfg's close-out.   And they do be closed out!

Dang, 'cause it sure was a pretty gee-tar...

But it's not THE world's prettiest guitar. As I pointed out last summer, that title belongs to this:


As played by, oh, I dunno, THIS man:



or maybe THIS guy:

My musical tastes include someone of whom most of you have never heard, Pete Atkin, playing songs mainly written by Clive James (and for the Brits and Aussies, yes, THAT Clive James).

Two such songs, appropos guitars:

National Steel

Shining in the window a guitar that wasn't wood
It was looking like a silver coin from when they still were good
The man who kept the music shop was pleased to let me play
Although the price was twenty times what I could ever pay

    Pick it up and feel the weight and weigh the feel
    That thing is an authentic National Steel

A lacy grille across the front and etchings on the back
But the welding sealed a box not even Bukka White could crack
I tuned it to an open chord, picked up the nickel slide
And bottlenecked a blues that sounded cold yet seemed to glide

    The National Steel weaves a singing shroud
    Just as sure as men in winter breathe a cloud

Scrapper Blackwell, Blind Boy Fuller and Blind Blake
Son House or any name you care to take
And from many a sad railroad, mine or mill
Lonnie Johnson's bitter tears are in there still

    Be certain, said the man, of who you are
    There are dead men still alive in that guitar

Back there the next morning half demented by desire
For that storybook assemblage of heavy plate and wire
I sold half the things I valued but I'll never count the cost
While I can pick a note like broken bracken in the frost

    And I hear those fabled names becoming real
    Every time I feel the weight or weigh the feel
    Of the vanished years inside my National Steel




Thief In The Night

A guitar is a thief in the night
That robs you of sleep through the wall
A guitar is a thin box of light
Throwing reflections that rise and fall
It reminds you of Memphis or maybe Majorca
Big Bill Broonzy or Garcia Lorca
A truck going north or a cab to the Festival Hall

And the man who plays the guitar for life
Tests his thumbs on a slender knife
Forever caresses a frigid wife
His fingers travel on strings and frets
Like a gambler's moving to cover bets
Remembering what his brain forgets
While his brain remembers the fears and debts

  Long fingernails that tap a brittle rhythm on a glass
  Around his neck a ribbon with a little silver hook
  Like some military order second class
  You can read him like an open book
  From the hands that spend their lives creating tension
  From the wrists that have a lean and hungry
  Eyes that have a mean and angry look

A guitar is a thief in the night
That robs you of sleep through the wall
A guitar is a thin box of light
Throwing reflections that rise and fall
A guitar reminds you of death and taxes
Charlie Christian outplaying the saxes
The beginners' call and the very last call of all

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And take nothing but a grip
With the few good books that really count
It's a necessary trip

I'll be gone with the girl in the gold silk jacket
The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,11:21   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Dec. 29 2006,01:06)
ke:

Gotta love that Howie! I used to go to the city library (when we had only one) and read Lolita when I was 16, because it had been banned. Ditto Lawrence, who bored me, and just about anything I wasn't supposed to read. Read Don Quixote at eleven, but so did most of my friends (in Spanish editions the back section has a great guide to the different oaths curses and insults in the book. It's a great idea that should be used in all editions of Shakespeare) so I thought I should be able to read whatever I wanted. Dylan Thomas made me want to write, Marquez reinforced that in Spanish. I write in English only, though. My Spanish can't touch my English and it certainly does not come up to mi\y idea of decent prose.


Ra-Ul

Call me a cynical bastard, but I find it highly amusing that Ahmanson suffers from Tourette's syndrome. A huge potential for mirth there.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,11:27   

It may be apocryphal, but Son House supposedly once claimed the reason he preferred National Steels was because it was easy to knock an opponent senseless with them without damaging the guitar. :p

(Don't think Scrapper Blackwell ever played one, though...)

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Ra-Úl



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,12:03   

In re: guitar stuff (geez, what a musical bunch . . .does afdave play an accordion? No, wait, zydeco has rehabilitated the squeeze box. The marimba? Nah . . . the triangle . . . )

Lorca

La guitarra

The weeping of the guitar begins.
The dawn’s drinking glasses are broken.
The weeping of the guitar begins.
It’s useless to quiet her.
It’s impossible to hush her.
It weeps monotonously,
like the water weeps,
like the wind wails
over the fallen snow.
It’s impossible to hush her.
It weeps for distant things.
Warm southern sands
that long for white camellias.
It weeps, a targetless arrow,
an afternoon with no morning,
and the first dead bird on the branches.
Oh, Guitar!
A heart mortally wounded
by five blades.


(All mistakes or misreadings and willfull distortions mine)

Ra-Ul

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,16:34   

Hey, deadman, don't get me wrong--I appreciated the tip on the Garrison guitars, they get great reviews and the price was right.  At the moment, I am strung out between a cheap but halfway decent chinese-built plywood box and my gf's older and nicer acoustic.  The box has the advantages of being tote-around and knock- about-able, since it would be no great loss, but doesn't sound nearly as sweet, while the gf's older gee-tar sounds sweeter and fits the hand nicer, but is definitely the shy, stay-at-home, no-getting-drunk-at-the-hootenanny model.

So I pursued the cutaway all the way to credit card order, only to learn that the whole thing is--at this point (maybe not at some earlier point)--a likely chimera.  The key words are "closeout" (meaning they ain't making anymore at the factory) and the link labeled "Expect in 2-3 weeks."  I thought, as you may well have, that this was just a friendly hint as to expected delivery time, but no, if you click it, it actually says:
Quote

An order may be placed for this item although it is not currently available for shipment from our warehouse. Generally, we expect to be able to ship this item within 2 to 3 weeks upon receipt of your order. This date is estimated by the manufacturer and is subject to change.

This may be a fair enough warning--if it ever occurred to you to click on it--if the retailer were temporarily out of stock, and could just ring up the mfg.--here, Garrison--for more.  In combination with the "closeout" info, though, when the hypothetical order for more goes back to Garrison, what's Garrison gonna do?  Start the closed assembly line back up?
All of which explains the excellent price: get 'em while the gettin's good, 'cause there ain't gonna be no more.
Unfortunately (apparently; I suppose it's not impossible that Garrison has a few more unshipped ones sitting around...), in this case, I'm not gonna hold my breath expecting to hear from the retailer in two or three weeks that my order is actually being processed.
(First time through with my credit card, I bought a couple of accessories to go with the guitar, a strap and such.  When my order was processed, only the accessories showed up!  I called a number and cancelled the order and the customer service rep said the whole thing was a "mistake" and the page ought not to be there.  I said, well, I'm looking right at it--this is like "bait and switch"!  Anyways, I went through the whole process again and ordered only the guitar, but the last "purchase confirmation" page never appears, no email confirmation was sent, etc.  So, I think they're all out and don't realistically expect to get more.  Should a purchase confirmation miraculously show up in three weeks, though, I won't boot it out of bed...!;)
In the meantime, these straight-acoustics are available for under $250: http://ssl3.adhost.com/america....=34719.
Exempting you from all liability should I be dissatisfied, heh heh, whaddaya think of that model and price?
Thanks, Stevie

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,17:04   

Stevie: now you got me scared. I'm grateful for the info, though, because my online buying experience is limited to books and one refurbished vintage Olympus OM 1n (fully manual, yay!;) SLR camera that I got from ebay. Oh, and a meteorite from there.

Anyways, that *looks* like a good one you posted, and I trust that the sound will be at least similar to my cutaway, plus I can't find anything cheaper offhand. And you have free shipping and a fair return policy. I give it a big thumbs up.

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,17:46   

Well, I'm not worried about internet purchases in general, of which I've made lots, though mainly of used books on NWC art (but also of the occasional bigger-ticket item--"occasional" because I be not the rich ambulance-chaser lawyer, but the poor anti-ambulance-chaser lawyer).

Here, I'm satisfied that my card won't be charged unless and until they locate a guitar that fulfills my order.  At the moment (see above), I doubt they'll be able to do that (unfortunately).  If they do, worst case scenario, I wind up with a good but inexpensive guitar.  If they don't, I'm out a guitar, but I'm not out any money.

My only problem is--having taken a "flyer" on "ordering" the cutaway--I don't want to conclude a separate transaction for the acoustic and risk winding up with two new guitars.  Even though they would both be nice, and nice to have (in an ideal world), in this world, I don't have that much spare cash under the mattress.

So I have to hope the deal on the AG 300 will remain up for the few weeks I'll give the AG 300 CE folks to come up with the cutaway.  Or I have to formally revoke my offer for the latter, and plump for the former (which means giving up any remote hope for the latter)...

Or...

Anyway it works, it's not really a case that substantiates jitters re internet commerce.  Though the ad is mildly deceptive, in that it leads one to wastes one's time trying to purchase something that in all likelihood can't be delivered, it isn't really fraudulent, since it doesn't generate a charge until the product can be found and shipped...

The good news is that, if I do wind up with one guitar or another, I'll at least be able to post an image of what it looks like!

  
Gary Bohn



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,18:29   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Dec. 28 2006,19:01)
My guitar of choice is a Garrison, which you can find here: http://www.garrisonguitars.com They sound great, comparable to others costing MUCH, much more...and they can be had for 200 bucks at places like http://www.wwbw.com/Garriso....sic?t=1

Although I have a Takamine EF341 I prefer my Blueridge BR160 for both the feel and the sound.


  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,18:56   

How the frick did we manage to turn this thread into the Guitar Channel?

Anyway, the folks behind curtain #1 (cutaway Garrison) were kind enough to email me that they definitively will not be able to provide that guitar, so I'm probably gonna go with curtain #2 (regular acoustic Garrison) for <$250.  

Unless one of you other kind pluckers can convince me (liability waiver in effect) that there's another brand new decent sounding acoustic out there for same-same price.

For example, the truly lovely Blueridge BR160 recommended just above is running at $699-$799, with one "new" one available at $519 at some store on eBay.  Probably a perfectly reasonable price for a fine instrument, but out of my cheapskate range...

Let the bidding commence.

And, yeah, of course those Nationals be fine, fine, fine.  But tasty-licious as they are (and one can always dream) they seem to be running in the $1800-$2200 range, prime vintage reconditined.  So, uh... flaps drool off tongue, but reluctantly passes...

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2006,19:58   

I should add that one advantage of curtain #2 is that the <$250 Garrison acoustic is available at American Music, which is located in my part of Seattle (Fremont), thus I get to avoid the hassles and risks and wait of shipment, I get to get my hands on the article before purchase, I get to check the set-up, etc., etc.

But that doesn't mean that there still isn't time to save Stevie from himself and either steer him away from the Garrison (if you know any bad stuff) or steer me toward an even sweeter gee-tar (at approx. same price).

Think of the raw power you wield!

But, if you're shy, and don't want to Duel with the Deadman, you can always PM me...

And none of this means we aren't still working on a Seattle Chapter of AtBC drinkfest: so far we've got night, not Fridays, at the Hilltop or the 74th.  Any other takers?  Any other restrictions or proposals on time or place?

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2006,23:44   

I missed a bit of this but I play acoustic and last year I needed a new traveling guitar (for open mic's and small gigs around town etc.) and I bought a seagull cutaway with a fishman (3 way?) internal pickup and preamp for $<600.00. After a $75 trip to Portland Fretworks (good place to go) to put a bone bridge on and level the neck etc. it is the best non-martin/taylor acoustic guitar I've ever played. In fact, last September I forgot my martin on my way to my friend's house where we were recording some things and I just used the seagull. It would have been a whole different story if I had a plytop fender or ibanez or whatever. (Not to knock those, this guy plays an old beat to sh!t ibanez and he is amazing.)

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2006,16:18   

I went in on Saturday to American Music and had fun plucking the Garrison in their quiet room.  Looks gorgeous, sounds good, set up quite adequately right out of the box.

But then they sneakily have about 18 ~$2k Gibsons and Martins hanging all around the same room.  

I'm still thinking about the Garrison.  They seem to be dropping the price still further, to <$230.  If they keep that up, less thinking will be required...!

  
Malum Regnat



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,01:05   

Born in Orlando Florida, grade school years just outside Disneyland (the original in Anaheim, not one of the fake imitations), then after a short stint in Oklahoma and Kansas, moved back to civilization.  I graduated from high school in Lodi California (yes it is the Lodi made famous by Credence Clearwater) and have spent the last 30 years in and around Stockton Ca (central valley, near Sacramento).

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Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,06:36   

Lodi is "civilization"?
Yikes. What does that say about Oklahoma and Kansas?

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shadowcatdancing



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,16:59   

Quote (Russell @ Jan. 03 2007,04:36)
Lodi is "civilization"?
Yikes. What does that say about Oklahoma and Kansas?

I think he was refering to California in general, rather than Lodi specifically.  At least, as someone who spent about 15 years more than he did in Lodi, I never considered it the height of civilization, but civilization was at least within reasonable driving distance. My travels are basically the same as Malum's (he's my brother) but I missed out on living in Florida, as I was born in Anaheim.  I teach English at community colleges in Stockton and Modesto.

  
Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,17:24   

RE: places like Lodi.

Reason I comment is I did graduate school at UCDavis. I drove past (or was it thru?) Lodi, Stockton, etc. on frequent trips between school and family in San Diego.

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shadowcatdancing



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,19:32   

If you were on I5 it was past, on 99 it was through.
The best thing about living in the Lodi/Stockton area is that day trips to both San Francisco and Yosemite are practical.  Monterey is possible but it's a long day.
If you like Zinfadel, the Lodi appellation wines are some of the best.
Other than that Lodi's sole claim to fame is the song.

  
Malum Regnat



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,20:33   

Quote (Russell @ Jan. 03 2007,04:36)
Lodi is "civilization"?
Yikes. What does that say about Oklahoma and Kansas?

Everything is relative.  It might help if I explain that in Oklahoma we lived in a wide spot in the road named Goultry (Pop. App. 300) the highway through town was the only street that was paved.  I use the term ‘highway’ loosely, I think the residential street I live on now is wider, and I know it has more traffic than the ‘highway’ that went through Goultry Oklahoma.  The entire school, 1st through 12th grades, occupied one not very large building.  The gym was almost as big as the entire rest of the school.

In Kansas we lived in a town twice the size of Goultry Oklahoma.  Le Roy Kansas had a population of 641.  I remember the population figure because the Boy Scout troop repainted the town sign.

I offer my condolences to anyone on the board who has actually been in either town.

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snoeman



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,23:21   

So, about two or three pages ago there was some noise made about Seattle-based AtBC lurkers/regulars actually making human contact, i.e., meeting to drink beer.

If there is actually any interest in doing this, may I propose the following:

74th Street Ale House
Saturday, January 20, 2007 @ 7:30pm

Or, make your own proposal for an alternative date, time and/or venue

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2007,23:30   

Similarly, if anyone wants to have a Chapel Hill AtBC meeting, lemme know.

   
argystokes



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,00:24   

Quote (snoeman @ Jan. 03 2007,21:21)
So, about two or three pages ago there was some noise made about Seattle-based AtBC lurkers/regulars actually making human contact, i.e., meeting to drink beer.

If there is actually any interest in doing this, may I propose the following:

74th Street Ale House
Saturday, January 20, 2007 @ 7:30pm

Or, make your own proposal for an alternative date, time and/or venue

It's on the calendar!

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,00:37   

So close and yet...

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Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,05:26   

Quote (Malum Regnat @ Jan. 03 2007,20:33)
 
Quote (Russell @ Jan. 03 2007,04:36)
Lodi is "civilization"?
Yikes. What does that say about Oklahoma and Kansas?

Everything is relative.  It might help if I explain that in Oklahoma we lived in a wide spot in the road named Goultry (Pop. App. 300) the highway through town was the only street that was paved.

(snip)

I offer my condolences to anyone on the board who has actually been in either town.

I've never been to Goultry, but have been up in the area several times.  I bought hay in Carrier this summer, which is only about 10 miles from Goultry.  You must not have made it to town much.  You were only a half hour from Enid which, while not exactly very cosmopolitan, does have a few more amenities.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,11:12   

Quote (snoeman @ Jan. 03 2007,23:21)
So, about two or three pages ago there was some noise made about Seattle-based AtBC lurkers/regulars actually making human contact, i.e., meeting to drink beer.

If there is actually any interest in doing this, may I propose the following:

74th Street Ale House
Saturday, January 20, 2007 @ 7:30pm

Or, make your own proposal for an alternative date, time and/or venue

Works for me.

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,15:14   

It's on my calendar, too.  It'll be the night before (elective, "surgery center"-type, but non-cosmetic) eye surgery for me, so I have certain restrictions on what I'm supposed to imbibe and when, but I think those mostly kick in around midnight, so I should be good to go.  

(And, should surgery go wrong, what a way to go!;)

I'm pondering whether to be offended by the implication that I'm but a "noise"maker (rabblerouser has ever so much more cachet, dahling), but, ah...

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,15:19   

Boy, this must be a bad day for my pinheadedness.

Uh, no, I'm not having surgery on a Sunday.  The 20th will be just fine!  I was looking at the wrong page of the wrong calendar, or just relying on my memory of the layout of my month, or some dumb thing--no surgery till several days later and, no, we don't need to talk about my frickin' eye all night...

(Brain fart!;)

  
Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,15:33   

I'm nowhere near Seattle, so I'll have to ask you all to have a brew for me. Any chance you'll be inviting our friends from the Discovery Institute?

SteviePinhead: I'm putting off the inevitable myself. I haven't gone to an eye doctor yet, but recent conversations with 3 family members leaves me with little doubt I have cataracts. I haven't completely made up my mind which prospect I find more distressing: going blind in one eye, or eye surgery. (What's the official emoticon for "the willies"?)

Other regulars: I split my time between Ohio and New Jersey these days. Do we have enough AtBCers in either of those areas to form a quorum?

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,15:39   

Quote (Russell @ Jan. 04 2007,15:33)
I split my time between Ohio and New Jersey these days.

This is just what the fundies have been looking for.  Evidence that evolutionists end up in ####.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,15:49   

Can you fellas conference call me in and Fedex me the beer?  

Ta.

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Malum Regnat



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,16:20   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Jan. 04 2007,03:26)
Quote (Malum Regnat @ Jan. 03 2007,20:33)
   
Quote (Russell @ Jan. 03 2007,04:36)
Lodi is "civilization"?
Yikes. What does that say about Oklahoma and Kansas?

Everything is relative.  It might help if I explain that in Oklahoma we lived in a wide spot in the road named Goultry (Pop. App. 300) the highway through town was the only street that was paved.

(snip)

I offer my condolences to anyone on the board who has actually been in either town.


I've never been to Goultry, but have been up in the area several times.  I bought hay in Carrier this summer, which is only about 10 miles from Goultry.  You must not have made it to town much.  You were only a half hour from Enid which, while not exactly very cosmopolitan, does have a few more amenities.

Yes, there was Enid.  We had family on mothers side living in Enid.  We moved to Oklahoma so father could go back to Phillips University and study for the ministry.  We were living in Goultry because the church where he was a student minister had a parsonage we could live in.

Don't tell either of the Daves this but he had a degree in biology with a minor in geology as well as being an ordained minister.  He taught Biology at the high school level and had no problem accepting the overwhelming evidence for evolution.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,18:20   

As an aside for the folks in Seattle...

Dr. Phil Plait of BadAstronomy will be in Seattle giving a moon-hoax talk on Sunday, January 7.

Heads up.

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snoeman



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2007,21:02   

This is who I have listed as coming so far:

snoeman
argystokes
JohnW
Steviepinhead

This is who lives in an inferior city 3 1/2 hours south of Seattle and can't attend (unfortunately):

BWE

This is the list of people who shall receive beer from us via 2nd day air FedEx*:

Richardthughes

Looking forward to it.

* Sorry, Priority Overnight is sooooo expensive.  

:)

  
CloneBoySA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,02:51   

Hi,

I'm from South Africa, more specifically Durban on the east coast. Finishing off my Master's in Mechanical Engineering, and hopefully starting my doctorate soon.

David

  
Renier



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,03:26   

Quote (CloneBoySA @ Jan. 08 2007,02:51)
Hi,

I'm from South Africa, more specifically Durban on the east coast. Finishing off my Master's in Mechanical Engineering, and hopefully starting my doctorate soon.

David

A fellow South African at last!  :D

  
Stephen Elliott



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,10:27   

Quote (Renier @ Jan. 08 2007,03:26)
Quote (CloneBoySA @ Jan. 08 2007,02:51)
Hi,

I'm from South Africa, more specifically Durban on the east coast. Finishing off my Master's in Mechanical Engineering, and hopefully starting my doctorate soon.

David

A fellow South African at last!  :D

You just need to organise a pub meeting now and that will be 3 continents done. It is nearly always good to meet, chat and let alcohol loosen the tongue.

  
CloneBoySA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,10:57   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Jan. 08 2007,10:27)
 
Quote (Renier @ Jan. 08 2007,03:26)
   
Quote (CloneBoySA @ Jan. 08 2007,02:51)
Hi,

I'm from South Africa, more specifically Durban on the east coast. Finishing off my Master's in Mechanical Engineering, and hopefully starting my doctorate soon.

David

A fellow South African at last!  :D

You just need to organise a pub meeting now and that will be 3 continents done. It is nearly always good to meet, chat and let alcohol loosen the tongue.

Bit of a drive from Cape Town to Durban, even meeting
halfway is a good 12 hours drive! The annoying thing is I was in Cape Town 2 weeks ago!

Also noticed there were some other members who were born in this beautiful country of mine, so that makes South Africans (both current and ex) a good, oh, I don't know, 0.5% of the members? :p

David

Edit: Just saw there are 949 members, so I think there were 5 SAfricans in total, which gives (Hold on, need to use my calculator...) 0.526%! What a good guess! :p

  
Renier



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,04:59   

Yeah, Durban is a good distance from civilisation, aka, Cape Town :-)

David, if you are ever here again, drop me a PM a week or so before your visit. We can go and hit some pubs. Bring your calculator with, we will need to predict how long it will take to crawl to the next pub :-p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,07:13   

Quote (Renier @ Jan. 09 2007,04:59)
Yeah, Durban is a good distance from civilisation, aka, Cape Town :-)

David, if you are ever here again, drop me a PM a week or so before your visit. We can go and hit some pubs. Bring your calculator with, we will need to predict how long it will take to crawl to the next pub :-p

I should be in Cape Town later this year - got to go visit a few prisons  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,07:59   

Quote (MidnightVoice @ Jan. 09 2007,07:13)
Quote (Renier @ Jan. 09 2007,04:59)
Yeah, Durban is a good distance from civilisation, aka, Cape Town :-)

David, if you are ever here again, drop me a PM a week or so before your visit. We can go and hit some pubs. Bring your calculator with, we will need to predict how long it will take to crawl to the next pub :-p

I should be in Cape Town later this year - got to go visit a few prisons  :D

Visit a few prisons?

What time of the year are you coming down here?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,12:09   

Quote (Renier @ Jan. 09 2007,07:59)
Quote (MidnightVoice @ Jan. 09 2007,07:13)
Quote (Renier @ Jan. 09 2007,04:59)
Yeah, Durban is a good distance from civilisation, aka, Cape Town :-)

David, if you are ever here again, drop me a PM a week or so before your visit. We can go and hit some pubs. Bring your calculator with, we will need to predict how long it will take to crawl to the next pub :-p

I should be in Cape Town later this year - got to go visit a few prisons  :D

Visit a few prisons?

What time of the year are you coming down here?

I am trying to make it while the Tri-Nations is on  :D

(and all the #### Yanks will wondering WTF I am talking about.  He said, being a #### Yank himslf now).  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,12:16   

Go the Blacks*

*NZ's the All Blacks ...the world's best rugby team. :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,12:25   

Quote (k.e @ Jan. 09 2007,12:16)
Go the Blacks*

*NZ's the All Blacks ...the world's best rugby team. :)

At the moment.

And when I was young.

But, need I mention the last World Cup?  :D  (and I have the tie to prove that we did actually win, and I wear it whenever any Australiuans come to town.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,13:31   

Quote (k.e @ Jan. 09 2007,12:16)
Go the Blacks*

*NZ's the All Blacks ...the world's best rugby team. :)

Bah Humbug! Probably true ATM. Not to long ago the "Sprinbocks" where the BEST. It might become true again. England was the best team recently but you antipodeans are responsive. Let's see.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,14:00   

oh yeah....I left off ATM.

And the Boks historically I think have the best record but hey I'm hoping ......dey lock deer core kees in dee core pork ...before the next game

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,15:11   

Quote (Renier @ Jan. 08 2007,03:26)
Quote (CloneBoySA @ Jan. 08 2007,02:51)
Hi,

I'm from South Africa, more specifically Durban on the east coast. Finishing off my Master's in Mechanical Engineering, and hopefully starting my doctorate soon.

David

A fellow South African at last!  :D

Make that another one...

Johannesburg, South Africa.

Bachelors in financial mathematics, working towards qualifying as an actuary.  Currently working in employee benefits (exciting, I hear you say :p ).

Play piano, guitar (cheap Ibanez RG) & clarinet. Listen to: In Flames, Children of Bodom, Nightwish, Stratovarius, Dark Tranquility and classical.

Go Boks!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,17:35   

Any of you Sothies old enough to remember Jeremy Taylor, od children's and adults songs fame?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2007,02:36   

I seem to remember a bit of him, but that is from the days of my childhood, so it is all a bit on the hazy side. I would probably recognise the songs though if I heard them again.

And speaking of ruggerby :p, only a month and a bit to the Super 14, just hope this time an SA team makes it to the final...

David

PS This thread seems to have turned into a bit of a Southern Hemisphere party place...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2007,10:16   

Quote (CloneBoySA @ Jan. 10 2007,02:36)
PS This thread seems to have turned into a bit of a Southern Hemisphere party place...

Well, I have not yet been to South Africa, but I have lived in Africa south of the Equator...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2007,10:50   

I'm from UK but I got relatives in Jo'burg.  Had a wee visit there about 2 years ago.  Also went to Durban and Sun City.  That was nice.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2007,02:45   

Rkootknir! Another South African!

Oh, I still remember Jeremy Taylor... not that I wanted to!  ???

Anyway, the offer stands. Anyone who will be visiting Cape Town, PM me. I check ATBS on weekdays.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,07:49   

I'm in the UK. Originally from oop north but been living in the south since finishing uni many years ago.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,08:10   

Sir,

All Blacks? Best rugby team in the world at the moment? Please don't make me explain this again, for I cannot let such vile calumny pass unhurrumphed at.

The reason that international matches are called "Test Matches" is because they are a test of the foreign nation playing Enlgand. Some misguided individuals think it is a test of sporting prowess, but as we English invented Rugby it is actually a test of manners and sportsmanship. Since, at the moment, whenever England play the All Blacks, England lose, this only serves to demonstrate that the All Blacks, and hence all New Zealand (perhaps all foreigners even) are rude, ill mannered and unsportsmanlike. This is because they have the upstart temerity to beat the English at a sport we invented, which of course they can only have done by underhanded techniques, ungentlemanly conduct and cheating.

In future tests we hope that the once great colony of New Zealand (where we English and our Celtic chums commited such trifling acts such as genocide) will regain her manners, and as such, her national Rugby Union team will deport themselves with a more gentlemanly air.

Yours on behalf of Her Imperial Majesty, Empress of the Commonwealth, Queen of England, Keeper of Various Small Dogs and Shagger of some dodgy Greek,

The Right Reverand Colonel Tarquin P Biggott-Smythe-Fortesque-Farquarson, Keeper of Her Majesty's Imperial Stool Collection and Master of the Royal Bowel, Privy Counsellor.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2007,07:11   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Jan. 09 2007,13:31)
Quote (k.e @ Jan. 09 2007,12:16)
Go the Blacks*

*NZ's the All Blacks ...the world's best rugby team. :)

Bah Humbug! Probably true ATM. Not to long ago the "Sprinbocks" where the BEST. It might become true again. England was the best team recently but you antipodeans are responsive. Let's see.

Tri Nations - All Blacks sit on top. Then Australia then the Springbok's. I'm sure the Springbok's will regain their former glory.

I'm from New Zealand.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2007,08:18   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 12 2007,08:10)
Sir,

All Blacks? Best rugby team in the world at the moment? Please don't make me explain this again, for I cannot let such vile calumny pass unhurrumphed at.

The reason that international matches are called "Test Matches" is because they are a test of the foreign nation playing Enlgand. Some misguided individuals think it is a test of sporting prowess, but as we English invented Rugby it is actually a test of manners and sportsmanship. Since, at the moment, whenever England play the All Blacks, England lose, this only serves to demonstrate that the All Blacks, and hence all New Zealand (perhaps all foreigners even) are rude, ill mannered and unsportsmanlike. This is because they have the upstart temerity to beat the English at a sport we invented, which of course they can only have done by underhanded techniques, ungentlemanly conduct and cheating.

In future tests we hope that the once great colony of New Zealand (where we English and our Celtic chums commited such trifling acts such as genocide) will regain her manners, and as such, her national Rugby Union team will deport themselves with a more gentlemanly air.

Yours on behalf of Her Imperial Majesty, Empress of the Commonwealth, Queen of England, Keeper of Various Small Dogs and Shagger of some dodgy Greek,

The Right Reverand Colonel Tarquin P Biggott-Smythe-Fortesque-Farquarson, Keeper of Her Majesty's Imperial Stool Collection and Master of the Royal Bowel, Privy Counsellor.

Bugger

......I must have been asleep when The Right Reverand Colonel Tarquin P Biggott-Smythe-Fortesque-Farquarson, Keeper of Her Majesty's Imperial Stool Collection and Master of the Royal Bowel, Privy Counsellor. slipped that excuse for warm beer and coming last in the upperclass twit of the year shooting ones-self competition.

You're obviously too young to remember this but who played against the "Watford Long John Silver Impersonators"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2007,15:07   

Okay, I am new to here, but have posted on Science Blogs and Pandas Thumb for @ year.  

Born in Ohio, lived in Boston, Milwaukee, and now market and live in the Chicago suburbs.

I played guitar for beer and tips in college in the '70's, studied Anthropology, girls, ran the university bone lab and dug up bundle burials at Middle Woodland sites.

My daughter plays fullback for a large midwestern university rugby team, and we get to watch her play ocasionally.  She scored a try against the Irish Army Rugby team.  Who kew the Irish had an Army?  Watch out England!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2007,15:11   

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 Who kew the Irish had an Army?  Watch out England!

I did. I worked with both their police and army. We are not as anti eachother as the news makes out.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2007,16:58   

And the real Irish rugby team is still (I think) the only sports team that represents both NI and Eire, no artificial political divisions!

And hence the British Lions represent the British Isles - geographical, not political.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2007,18:21   

Speaking of Rugby, I forgot to thank the poster that linked to the UTube video of Masters v Students Rugby Match!  I sent it to my daughter,and she thought it was great too.  I would guess it's on quite a few more play lists now.  Something else Rugby fans might enjoy:

From TheBrushback.com

English Rugby Match Momentarily Stopped For Dead Player

SURREY, ENGLAND--An exciting, fast past Rugby match between Sutton & Epson RFC and the Thanet Wanderers was momentarily interrupted by the death of one of the players. Officials, acting quickly, rolled the dead man off the field and action was promptly resumed.

“It’s unfortunate that this had to happen,” said Sam Frost of S & E. “Especially at such a crucial moment in the match. But this is a violent game, and occasionally you’re going to have disruptions. I think the medical staff did a superb job of removing the corpse quickly.”

The dead player was identified as the Wanderer’s Tom Anderson, a halfback. According to those present, he was decapitated while at the bottom of a nasty scrum. His death was brought to the attention of officials when one of the players mistook his head for the ball.

Said Lyndon Burrell of S & E: “I was at the bottom of the pile and I was grasping for the ball. Suddenly I felt something round in my hand. I thought it was the ball. Turns out it was a human head. I showed it to the referee and he decided to pause the game. I’m not sure why, but who am I to question the refs?”

Many rugby fans and players questioned the stoppage of play. Rugby is a faced past game, and normally injured players are ignored or stepped on until they can summon up the strength to get back up and join the match. Recently though, rugby officials have been under fire for the number of crippling injuries that occur during match play. Some have questioned the practice of leaving a clearly injured player on the field while other players step on him, kick him, and trip over him. It is believed that referees were responding to such pressure when they made the controversial decision to stop play.

Says referee Paul Windsor: “It was a difficult decision, but the other referees and I decided it was in the best interests of the deceased player to remove him and his severed head from the playing field. Aside from it being in poor taste to allow a dead man to litter the field during a crucial match, it is also dangerous for the other players, who run the risk of tripping over the corpse and hurting themselves. We stand by our decision.”

But some rugby purists disagree with the decision to halt play. They say the stoppage of play was jut another example of the “sissying-up” of the game, and that it never would have happened in the old days.

“When I was a kid, if someone died on the field, his teammates grabbed him by the ankles and dragged him off,” said Lyle Montgomery, 63, rugby fan. “There was none o’ this girlish fretting about bad taste or scruples. The sport has gone downhill. Leave the ‘team doctors’, and ‘trainers’ to American football. Before you know it, teams will have to provide compensation to the deceased players’ families. Bollocks!”

As for the Wanderers, they are despondent over their teammate’s death but are a bit more understanding of the refs decision to halt play.

“I understand the decision to stop play,” said teammate Robert Dengate, “I think that there should be a rule about dead players. They do get in the way, and its awfully depressing to see them lying there all puffed out, isn’t it. But we’ll miss the old geezer, that’s for sure”

Said teammate Joe Hodges: “It’s a shame to see Tom go, but he went out doing what he loved best – having his head pulled off in a rugby scrum and mistaken for a football.”

Despite the fact that the play was stopped briefly, the momentum and excitement continued in a game that saw the Wanderers edge Sutton & Epson 20-18. By the end of the match, the Cuddington court crowd had all but forgotten about the unfortunate accident.

“That was a great match!” cried Phillip Morganton, 32. “Very competitive, but there was a spot of confusion there when that man lost his head, wasn’t there? Can’t say I approved of the stoppage of play, but the important thing was the Wanderers won”

Thought it appears a crisis has been averted by the stoppage of play, the league is under fire from government officials for its recurring problem of death and injuries during games. Experts complain that clubs’ rosters are being seriously depleted and there is no apparatus in place to compensate for the losses.

“We had three men paralyzed last week,” says league official Hugh Bronson. “And now a death. Meanwhile, who fills the roster spot for that club? There must be compensation for teams that lose players. But there also needs to be better procedures for avoiding death, dismemberment and paralysis. If they had stopped play before Anderson’s head was pulled off, they might’ve saved him. But they waited too long, didn’t they. Also, is it too much to ask to have Band-Aids on hand to treat injured players on the sideline? We’re not brutes are we?”

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2007,03:41   

Although a parody that's slightly too accurate for comfort!

I broke my finger (not quite as bad as decapitation) in a rugby match at boarding school once and went to matron to see what she could do (I was 13). She slapped my finger pretty hard and when I didn't pass out she decided that I was swinging the lead (faking injury to get off school) and uttered the immortal words:

"Broken finger eh? Take two aspirin and come back and see the doctor in the morning.........if it's still there."

And dismissed me back to classes. The finger was an exciting shade of blackish purple by the morning and the doctor was very sympathetic. He strapped it up, told me to "shut my noise" when I complained it hurt and sent me back to classes. Ah the 80's!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2007,07:26   

The whole thing sounds rather like "The Art of Coarse Rugby" to me.

Definition of a Coarse Rugby Club - when they get a grant from the National Playing Fields Association they use it to extend the bar.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2007,10:08   

All this talk of rugby has got me thinking.

TO has occasional Howlerfests (meetings of TO regulars) so named after a famous kook effectively called TOers a bunch of howler monkeys.

Since we've been referred to by the Tard as Church Burning Ebola Boys I hereby propose that all ATBC meet ups are Ebolafests (including the one just gone in Seattle if people are amenable to the neologism).

So two Points of Order:

1) The membership will vote on the name Ebolafest for ATBC booze meets.

2) I propose a UK Ebolafest in London in the coming months/weeks/minutes. All amenable UK Ebolas please respond with times, dates, beer preferences, likelihood of attending, and blood type. If any Foreign Ebolas are in the UK in the near future it could be combined with a ChurchBurn (a neologism for a Roast) in their honour.

What say you fellows?

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2007,17:45   

Actually, an Ebolafest needs to be held in Africa, surely?  :D

I get to London(ish) most years, but recently it has been Heathrow and Guilford (Surrey University, of for the very, very old academic cognoscenti, Battersea CAT  :D

And there is not a lot in Iowa.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,13:16   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 24 2007,10:08)
All this talk of rugby has got me thinking.

TO has occasional Howlerfests (meetings of TO regulars) so named after a famous kook effectively called TOers a bunch of howler monkeys.

Since we've been referred to by the Tard as Church Burning Ebola Boys I hereby propose that all ATBC meet ups are Ebolafests (including the one just gone in Seattle if people are amenable to the neologism).

So two Points of Order:

1) The membership will vote on the name Ebolafest for ATBC booze meets.

2) I propose a UK Ebolafest in London in the coming months/weeks/minutes. All amenable UK Ebolas please respond with times, dates, beer preferences, likelihood of attending, and blood type. If any Foreign Ebolas are in the UK in the near future it could be combined with a ChurchBurn (a neologism for a Roast) in their honour.

What say you fellows?

Louis

Louis et al:

re:   Your Invite and Discussion

1.) Thank you for invite, I am in midwest USA area, though I am reminded of Groucho Marx's famous line that he wouldn't want to belong to any club that would want him as a member.

2.) Not sure I like "Ebola Boy or Ebolafest. Call me crazy, but  "Ebolafest" conjurs up images of starving, black Africans... this puts me right off my feed, and would probably make me morose when drinking.

Other names for your consideration would be
Tard-Killers (There's a cheery image), and we would meet  at a Springer-Free Zone, or a No-Tard Zone

The I Can't Believe How Stupid Dembski & DaveScot Are Group, a meetting could be a Dembski Demolition Day.
(And who doesn't like a little alliteration?)

The FUDS (Fuck You Dembski & Springer), would meet at at a Fudfest, where we do our best to fuck over Dembski and Tard's plans and pitiful postings. Just like everyday is a fudsfest here.

Comments and retorts please.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,13:44   

Ok EbolaFest not hot.

Churchburningfest?

The point is to take the insult directed at us by UDers and turn it into an amusing beer soaked tard mocking session.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,14:24   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2007,13:44)
Ok EbolaFest not hot.

Churchburningfest?

The point is to take the insult directed at us by UDers and turn it into an amusing beer soaked tard mocking session.

Louis

Personally, I would like to burn all churches.  That said, "Churchburningfest" conjures up images of KKK in full regalia, burning black churches, and about the ONLY thing dumber than a DaveTard, is an inbred, KKK cretin.

Is DarwinistFest too akward?  EvolutionistFest?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,14:47   

Surely using one of daves insults is making too much of him?  
Cant we use someone else's, preferably someone more intelligent thand DAve, and thus make him jealous?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,15:15   

Quote (guthrie @ Jan. 25 2007,14:47)
Surely using one of daves insults is making too much of him?  
Cant we use someone else's, preferably someone more intelligent thand DAve, and thus make him jealous?

Guthrie is right.  With all the beautifully stupid things that IDist have said, why limit ourselves?  Yes To Free Lunch springs to mind.  Of course we would have to be a little carefull, as Behe's book could be misconstrued on several diffrent levels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2007,16:26   

The point of taking the moniker from an insult, like the Howlerfest thing from T.O., is to disarm it by mocking it.

It wasn't a serious suggestion, more a joke based on previous T.O. thingies.

After all one can find something wrong with any name, to me "Howlerfest" conjures up the howls of pain and fear that the victims of Ted Bundy must have uttered. See what I mean, it can be taken any way anyone likes.

Less PC bollocks, more drinking dammit! ;)

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2007,05:44   

I like the insult "the peanut gallery". When I first heard that one I had no idea what they where talking about. On looking it up, it is a bit of a compliment.

Something along the lines of "the cheapest seats in the house. Populated with a community of ireverant and loud customers to the theatre. They would often throw peanuts at pretentious pompous acts." Perfect.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2007,07:20   

Delurking.

Off topic, but just a little good news, from my side. A bloke that works with me used to be a literal reading creationist. He onced dumped one of Hovind's DVDs on my desk... Lucky for me, it was the same day Hovind got arrested :-)

Anyhow, today I told him Hovind (Dr. TaxEvader) got around 10 years. So, the bloke says he has been thinking about all this stuff and came to the conclusion that Hovind is lying about the 6000 year old earth, only attacking the older earth model and giving no positive evidence for a 6000 year old earth. Guess that makes him a OEC now, but at least its one step up.

Another small victory, I got Behe's "Darwin's Black Box" removed from the science section at a local big bookstore. It is now filed under religion. It was quite an effort, since the "second in charge" is a creationist that though they had the obligation to present "alternatives" to evolution. *sigh*

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2007,11:27   

Renier - Good show, old chap.

In REAL English, this means  Fuck Yeah, way to kick some Creo-Butt.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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