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Dumpth doubled. ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6300;st=4890#entry167653 Page problem bump ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1272;st=13170#entry167652 To set the record straight, boxers are classified by measuring their CSI. This is accomplished by counting the number of characters contained in their minimal descriptions:

Wiki introductions will do:

Foreman:
 

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George Edward Foreman (born January 10, 1949) is an American two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Olympic gold medalist, and successful entrepreneur. He became the oldest man ever to become heavyweight boxing champion of the world when, at age 45, he knocked out Michael Moorer, age 26, to reclaim the title he held 20 years earlier. He has been named one of the 25 greatest fighters of all time by Ring magazine. Nicknamed "Big George" he is now a successful businessman and an ordained Christian minister who has his own church. Foreman has 10 children, and each of his five sons are named George: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V and George VI. His four older sons are distinguished from one another by the nicknames "Monk", "Big Wheel", "Red" and "Little George." Foreman is ranked #9 on Ring magazine's list of "100 greatest punchers of all time". He is also well-known for the eponymous George Foreman Grill.

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Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.; January 17, 1942) is a retired American boxer and three-time World Heavyweight Champion, who is widely considered one of the greatest heavyweight championship boxers of all time. As an amateur, he won a gold medal in the light heavyweight division at the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. After turning professional, he went on to become the first boxer to win the lineal heavyweight championship three times. Originally known as Cassius Clay, Ali changed his name after joining the Nation of Islam in 1964, subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975. In 1967, Ali refused to be inducted into the U.S. military based on his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War. He was arrested and found guilty on draft evasion charges, stripped of his boxing title, and his boxing license was suspended. He was not imprisoned, but did not fight again for nearly four years while his appeal worked its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, where it was successful. Nicknamed "The Greatest", Ali was involved in several historic boxing matches. Notable among these are three with rival Joe Frazier and one with George Foreman, whom he beat by knockout to win the world heavyweight title for the second time. He suffered only five losses (four decisions and one TKO by retirement from the bout) with no draws in his career, while amassing 56 wins (37 knockouts and 19 decisions). Ali was well known for his unorthodox fighting style, which he described as "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee", and employing techniques such as the rope-a-dope. He was also known for his pre-match hype, where he would "trash talk" opponents on television and in person some time before the match, often with rhymes. These personality quips, idioms along with an unorthodox fighting technique made him a cultural icon. In later life, Ali developed Parkinson's disease. In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and "Sports Personality of the Century" by the BBC.

Forman is defined in 936 characters and hence contains a minimum of 4680 bits of CSI. Ali is defined by 2020 characters and hence he contains a minimum of 10100 bits of CSI.

They should never have been in the same ring. ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=180#entry167651 I was listening to CNN reporting on the school that canceled the prom rather than allow a lesbian couple to attend. Someone with a strong Southern accent called in and said (approximately) "When you take the Good Book out of the schools you're just opening the door for people to come in and do and say what they think!" ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1272;st=13170#entry Joe's conceptual muddle vis size reminds me of the old joke:

Q: Why are women so bad at measurement?

A: They're constantly told that this is six inches (finger and thumb four inches apart). ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=180#entry167650

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Quote (blipey @ Mar. 13 2010,20:51)     Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:         Quote blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"? Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey. Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach? JoeTard:       Quote The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in. Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time.

What do mean "this time"? ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=180#entry167649

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Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:         Quote blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"? Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey. Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach? JoeTard:     Quote The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time. ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=180#entry167648 I get "text area not found" on main entries, and no comments box on bw. ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1065;st=810#entry167647 Some of the PT threads are still only partially built. Of the ones I checked: Bathroom wall, Smithsonian's Human Origins, Science blogs: ur doin it wrong, Sand Dune, Evolution Weekend – 2010. ]]> http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1065;st=810#entry167646

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:     Quote blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"? Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:

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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

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