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The Universe Next Door with Tom Woodward: Featuring Casey Luskin on Darwin's Doubt

ID the Future - Sun, 2014-04-13 04:12
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, Casey Luskin is again on The Universe Next Door with Tom Woodward, this time discussing Darwin's Doubt and what it adds to the discussion about one of the most important...
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Dr. Stephen Webb on Occasionalism and Intelligent Design

ID the Future - Sun, 2014-04-13 04:12
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, listen in on Casey Luskin's conversation with Dr. Stephen Webb as they discuss Dr. Webb's recent debate on intelligent design with Stephen Meredith at First Things. Dr. Webb explains "occasionalism"...
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"Our Professors Hate You. But Then We Go on Your Website."

World Magazine elicited this delightful and very telling anecdote from Stephen Meyer. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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In Twin Cases, "Academic Integrity" Is Newspeak for "Speech Code"

The recent importation by Ball State and Amarillo College of "academic integrity" into the domain of academic freedom is straight out of left field. Joshua Youngkin http://www.discovery.org/p/501
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"Should Christians Embrace Darwin?" An Evening with Karl Giberson and Stephen Meyer

I'm just back from a busy speaking trip with Steve Meyer and thought I would give a quick recap of one event, in Richmond, Virginia. Andrew McDiarmid http://www.evolutionnews.org
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New Opponents to Opinion Suppression

Slowly the liberal left -- that is, the ones are not committed to illiberal suppression of opposing viewpoints -- is finding its voice. Bruce Chapman http://www.discovery.org/p/7
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Video: Biologist Is Alarmed by Calm Shrimp

Whoa, some scientists appear to have way too much free time their hands! David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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War on Humans: Population Control in India

Malthusian ideology. Junk science. Genocidal blackmail targeted at defenseless starving people. Michael Egnor
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Irony Watch: "Censor of the Year" Jerry Coyne Now Supports...Academic Freedom?

The censoring of Ayaan Hirsi Ali by a craven Brandeis University has been widely and rightly criticized. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Looming Deadline: Students, You Have Till April 18 to Apply for Discovery Institute's Summer Seminars

Admission is quite competitive, but then again, we are training the next generation of ID researchers and advocates. Evolution News & Views
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In Philly This Weekend? Yes, You Can Still Attend the "Science and Design" Conference Without Pre-Registering!

As a highlight of this exciting event, we'll be previewing a stunning new animation of molecular machinery: the "walking" protein, kinesin. Evolution News & Views
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The National Center for ID Obfuscation

Arguing with Darwinian fundamentalists is frustrating because while you just want to have a reasonable conversation, they are trying to save your soul. Stephen H. Webb
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Readers of First Things Tell Stephen Meredith Where to Get Off

"Are you still an occasionist?" "Occasionally." -- Conversation overheard among Discovery Institute staff, as imagined by Dr. Meredith. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Shining Light on the Latest Errors and Omissions in Cosmos

Did Neil deGrasse Tyson purposefully misstate a book's title to bash religion? Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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A Materialist's 3/4 Search for Truth

Only humans pursue truth. It is one of our exceptional attributes. Wesley J. Smith http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-04-12 23:19
Post by Glen Davidson
Quote I dislike those animations. Had a gf years ago who studied that protein, i forget, i think actin or myosin, that they show trucking around the cell like little pedestrians, and she had actually done experiments on the things were you could, if the planets lined up, barely see them, and she said they were little fuzzy strands that barely manage to make 11 steps 'forward' every 20.

Those little animations, with their separate colors, and their oversimplified activities, make shit look a million times more designed than it looks under a 'scope.

That's another thing that makes it sound like a lie.  If she really were a biology major, she should know how fake the animations are.  And they're meant to be fake, to leave out the stochastic jitters and to show basically the resulting functional movements.

They really shouldn't be shown without a good explanation of how much is left out--probably one included in the animation itself.  

No biology major has an excuse, regardless, even if she's not very far along.  So if she did exist, let's hope she got out long ago, or learned a whole lot more than the junk you get from the DI.

Glen Davidson
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-04-12 23:10
Post by stevestory
Quote (REC @ April 12 2014,18:29)I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

  Quote We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.

Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

  Quote So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"

Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

Quote She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.

How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

Quote But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'

Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!
I dislike those animations. Had a gf years ago who studied that protein, i forget, i think actin or myosin, that they show trucking around the cell like little pedestrians, and she had actually don't experiments on the things were you could, if the planets lined up, barely see them, and she said they were little fuzzy strands that barely manage to make 11 steps 'forward' every 20.

Those little animations, with their separate colors, and their oversimplified activities, make shit look a million times more designed than it looks under a 'scope.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-04-12 23:09
Post by Glen Davidson
Well, it's Colonel Klinkhoffer, quoting the great Meyer, so it's pretty much unbelievable from the get-go.

But what about this?

  Quote But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'" So this is a little, in microcosm, a picture of what's happening. The establishment is terrified of this idea. -

Yeah, they have to go to EvolutionBullshit for animation, when for Expelled the IDiots had to take out XVIVO's animation, which they at first copied, and make one of their own.  

Terrifying, indeed.  Because we only have poofs as explanations.  No, wait, that's Meyer and (other) morons.

No, the whole story reeks of made-up garbage, possibly based on a few flimsy facts.  If there was a waitress who said such things, obviously she was just a creationist bigot--who else says that professors hate the worthless frauds?--who is so damned ignorant that she doesn't know that science made the first and best animations of molecular machines, and that it also has the evidence of evolution of a good many, if not all, of them.

The only thing scary about these jerks is that they'd make a whole lot of science illegal if they ever had power firmly in their grasp.

Glen Davidson
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-04-12 22:55
Post by stevestory
Larry Moran says Nick Matzke says this may be the worst post in UD Herstory.

So I KNOW reading that shit directly would require All Teh Alcohols!
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-04-12 22:29
Post by REC
I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014....71.html

Quote We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.

Hmm...cowboy steakhouse....feeding the troops?

[QUOTE]So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"[QUOTE]

Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.

How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

Quote But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'

Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!
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