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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:13
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 16 2014,13:37)No Gary, name a feature that did not evolve.
Show me where in the following information it says "did not evolve".

  Quote The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

http://www.discovery.org/csc........ons.php


If you cannot address the real premise of the theory then your opinions are already scientifically irrelevant.

I'm not obliged to entertain your deceptions.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:06
Post by NoName
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 16 2014,15:01)BTW: I have been spending all my free-time on the ID Lab and what I now have is already lifelike enough to be a little bit scary. And not because how it (still) works is complicated, it's because it's not. Something to respect and be careful with, or else (one way or another) be destroyed by.

Don't be in a rush to let the more theatrical thrills and shocks of a human (to human created intelligence) intelligent causation event now happening in our lifetime lead all to a tragically enslaving Karn Evil 9 ending.
Eliza was lifelike enough to be a little scary.
BFD.

You've been wasting your time with the ID-Lab -- it can accomplish nothing for you or for your 'theory' or for human knowledge.

But it's hardly surprising to see you meet the usual points raised against your nonsense with your standard "look over there" deflection and distraction.

You still don't have a clue as to just what 'features of the universe'** are 'best explained' by an 'intelligent cause', nor any idea what 'intelligence' is.  One suspects you don't even have a clue as to what a cause is.


** [by which we assume you mean 'entities in the universe'; the universe itself, the sum total of all that exists, has no more features than any collection]
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:01
Post by GaryGaulin
BTW: I have been spending all my free-time on the ID Lab and what I now have is already lifelike enough to be a little bit scary. And not because how it (still) works is complicated, it's because it's not. Something to respect and be careful with, or else (one way or another) be destroyed by.

Don't be in a rush to let the more theatrical thrills and shocks of a human (to human created intelligence) intelligent causation event now happening in our lifetime lead all to a tragically enslaving Karn Evil 9 ending.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 19:37
Post by midwifetoad
No Gary, name a feature that did not evolve.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 19:13
Post by REC
This, from Sal, seems worth preserving. He's all about phylogenetic methods, but resorts to nonsense about "gaps between created kinds" to scuttle the obvious evolutionary implications of a sound method.

Quote They ignore obvious gaps between created kinds...

Otherwise, the phylogenetic methods for a created kind I think are really cool. They’ve been used to reconstruct Y-chromosomal Aaron, and possibly Abraham, and maybe, just Maybe Noah or the daughters in law of Noah. We’ll see. I’m not totally against phylogeny, but I don’t believe in 1 universal phylogenetic tree, I believe in an orchard of phylogenetic trees.

UD link
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IDiots on Twitter

AE Public Forum - Fri, 2014-02-14 04:49
Post by Henry J
Twittering?

If it wouldn't be an insult to birds, I'd say something about bird-brains here...
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DI EN&V

AE Public Forum - Fri, 2014-02-14 04:48
Post by sparc
New footage from the DI summer school:



But are they really educating [quote]the Next Generation of Scientists and Scholars![quote]
According to World Magazine they are rather preaching the choir.
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DI EN&V

AE Public Forum - Fri, 2014-02-14 01:00
Post by midwifetoad
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 13 2014,08:15)What's up with that picture of Meyer?  Looks like he is squeezed into a suit 4x too big for his head ... if I didn't know better i'd say that had been photo-shopped badly!
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IDiots on Twitter

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 22:32
Post by J-Dog
@ #DUM4EVR @#Tard4All
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BIO-Complexity

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 22:32
Post by REC
Wonder what happened to the follow-up on this one:

Quote These translation products, called vector proteins, are functionless unless they form legible Chinese characters, in which case they serve the real
function of writing. This coupling of artificial genetic causation to the real world of language makes evolutionary experimentation possible in a context where innovation can have a richness of variety and a depth of causal complexity that at least hints at what is needed to explain the complexity of bacterial proteomes. In order for this possibility to be realized, we here provide a complete Stylus genome as an experimental starting point.

Kinda goofy, but they built a 70,000 word genome. Not a small amount of work. This was done and written up by May 2011. And then, did they try to 'evolve' it?

Guesses:
1) They did, it works, shhh....
2) DI gets into a fight: providing a fitness landscape is "smuggling information" in even though that is exactly what the environment does in evolution, crap our analogy defeats our point...shh
3) The Chinese speaker bailed
4) The bug evolved into the prolific writings of VJTorley, translated and dumped onto UD for us.

Link
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Wildlife

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 16:31
Post by Robin
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 12 2014,15:38)So glad this thread has gone active again ... super pictures these past few days.  Living here in the South of England, there's not much opportunity to get out right now unless you have a boat and like taking pictures of lakes.  

I bought myself a Canon 100mm f2.8 macro lens for Christmas, with an OEM ring flash (not an LED knock-off) so i've been playing around with that combination learning how to take macro shots.  

All of these are handheld at 1/200th with the flash, most I think are between f11 and f22 to get some decent depth given that the macro lens has an extremely shallow DoF at f8 and below.  This all makes for a challenge, of course.  I've now got a monopod coming in the post (by canoe, probably) just to hopefully increase the 'good' shot ratio.  Also ordered a macro slider so I can try out some focus stacked shots with my tripod.

These couple are from a frosty morning in early January.
Cool macros Freddie! I'm thinking about getting a similar lens myself. You've definitely got me thinking about it again with these!
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Wildlife

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 16:29
Post by Robin
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 12 2014,13:26)Yeah, it's been cold here too!


Eastern Screech-owl, pondering the 12 inches of snow under its roost


Yellow-rumped Warbler, looking at the icy water in the bird bath.
Wow! Nice David! I can't get a good close shot of our Yellow-Rumped Warbler like that. She won't come close enough to me.

And I really like the Screech Owl!
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BIO-Complexity

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 16:00
Post by stevestory
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 13 2014,00:16)No new articles. Still, D. Klinghoffer is celbrating Bio-Complexity's 4th birthday

[mibad--meant to reply but hit Edit instead. -Steve]
Quote Happy Darwin Day! To Celebrate, Go Review Four Years of BIO-Complexity
David Klinghoffer February 12, 2014 3:34 AM
Why not? It sure won't take long  
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IDiots on Twitter

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 14:19
Post by k.e..
Twitter = crack cocaine for trolls & a sink hole for ID rubes.

good luck to them

If you are wondering where those boat loads of cartel $ are ending up ask those bill shredders and launderers on Wall St.
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DI EN&V

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 14:15
Post by Freddie
What's up with that picture of Meyer?  Looks like he is squeezed into a suit 4x too big for his head ... if I didn't know better i'd say that had been photo-shopped badly!
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BIO-Complexity

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-02-13 14:10
Post by k.e..
Tard to ass resuscitation....where's Joe?
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The Existence of God in Contemporary Cosmology

ARN ID Update - Wed, 2014-02-12 03:59

The new big debate might be multiverse cosmologist Sean Carroll vs. Christian apologist William Lane Craig (who dismisses multiverses). It is sponsored by Greer Heard Point Counterpoint Forum. February 21-22, live streaming.

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Darwin or Bust: New Statues for Darwin Day Illustrate Intelligent Design, Not Evolution

ARN ID Update - Wed, 2014-02-12 03:52

University College London wanted to honor the father of evolutionary theory on his 205th birthday, but they couldn't seem to do it without intelligent design.

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REASONS: Conversations on Science and Faith

ARN ID Update - Wed, 2014-02-12 03:46

The goal of REASONS 2014 will be to demonstrate the beautiful compatibility and synergy of the natural sciences and orthodox Christianity.

Speakers at this Houston area event include...

Stephen C. Meyer
William A. Dembski
John G. West
Bruce L. Gordon
Nancy R. Pearcey

And Houston Baptist University Faculty:

Holly E. Ordway
Melissa Cain Travis

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Here's an Interesting and Worthwhile Scientific Volume Advocating, and Challenging, "Intelligible Design"

ARN ID Update - Wed, 2014-02-12 03:37

An endorsement on ENV of the book, which is a collection of philosophical, historical, mathematical, and scientific essays on design in nature. Many of the chapters are written by scientists from outside the United States, with Spain being especially well represented, who are friendly to intelligent design. However, not all of the chapters defend ID. Some of the authors critique ID, or claim it's impossible to scientifically detect design in nature. But even the criticisms are thoughtful, making this volume a worthy addition to anyone's collection of ID-related books.

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