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someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,12:41    Much is being said   about AIG's new, laughably insane Creation Museum.  It strike me that, while  many sciencey types will no doubt be visiting and commenting on the museum over the next few weeks, it would be fun to have a vew from ATBC's. . .err. . . uniquely irreverent perspective. With that in mind, I think it's time to call for volunteers.  Who will be the courageous man/woman/gender neutral person to brave the dangers of the creationist propaganda jungle?  Who among you is willing to shell out the big bucks for the Industrial-strength Irony Meter needed for such a venture?  I call on you, O Brave Midwest and Easterners, to do your duty and spare the rest of us, your geographically-challenged allies, from the agony of waiting any longer.  The Creation Museum must be mocked viciously--and soon! Whoever is willing to undertake this dangerous mission will, upon your return, be lauded with great praise, massive quantities of beer* and more homosexual innuendo from DaveScot impersonators than you could possibly imagine.  So, do we have any volunteers? *of the virtual kind -------------- Evolander in training

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,12:58    If I lived in the area I'd probably do it, although the thought of giving $20 to AiG is quite a deterrent.  It's not so much spending $20 as it is giving it to AiG.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,13:12    Quote and more homosexual innuendo from DaveScot impersonators than you could possibly imagine Well, we already have that... -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

MidnightVoice Posts: 380 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,13:53    Next time I am in Kentucky I will see if I can slit my journey, use some hotel points and visit the place. Gotta be a riot if you take the right attitude  :D -------------- If I fly the coop some time And take nothing but a grip With the few good books that really count It's a necessary trip I'll be gone with the girl in the gold silk jacket The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,17:02    I don't know who did this There's some good photos of some of the exhibits.  All we need now is the witty ATBC commentary!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,17:08    Quote In its attempt to denounce the old age of the Earth, it noted examples of gaseous versus solid planets and their rotations around stars, as well as how "planets and other bodies" can bend light to make it travel faster through space toward Earth--which would refute claims that the Earth must be old enough to see the light of stars many lightyears away. This is the starting point in the actual teaching of creationism, and is probably why it seemed so awkward to hear about "God's divine plan." Fellow audience members were in awe of the spiraling views of space, and gave their own "amens" and "mmhmms" as the narrator mentioned God's majesty.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,20:08    Where's the stork? I'm offended! What I want to know is, who did Eve's hair, and was/is he one of those folks in the Bible who lived for hundreds of years? Maybe he's still around? I need to get my hair done. I saw exactly that same dress in a shop in Guayaquil! It cost $1500. *Whew!* -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Henry J Posts: 5760 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,22:06    Re "What I want to know is, who did Eve's hair, and was/is he one of those folks in the Bible who lived for hundreds of years? Maybe he's still around?" He drowned. (Think about it! ;) ) Henry

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,22:39    Quote It strike me that, while  many sciencey types will no doubt be visiting and commenting on the museum over the next few weeks, well, maybe, but they certainly weren't allowed in today! I found that the height of hypocrisy; Hammy, apparently desperate to show how creationism IS science, refuses entry to the museum to scientists! I also find it a nice representation of the creationist mindset in general: desperate to prove they have the "facts", but refuse to listen to criticism. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2007,23:36    Quote (Henry J @ May 27 2007,21:06) Re "What I want to know is, who did Eve's hair, and was/is he one of those folks in the Bible who lived for hundreds of years? Maybe he's still around?" He drowned. (Think about it! ) Henry Oh, yeah, yeah...I know...I was just testing... Look, I just want to say one thing: I don't think we should ever, evah give Hammie's museum ONE RED CENT! Find some way to sneak in, folks - find out when they're having a party, some shindig, and talk your way in or sneak in - I've done it. Just be cool, have some pretext, and you can get in. Don't give them any money! Puh-lease! Pretty please with shimmies on top. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

qetzal Posts: 311 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,00:06    I liked "Evolution Tree" versus "Creation Orchard."

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,00:25    Quote Where's the stork? I'm offended! eve is barefoot and pregnant. uh, is there a kitchen in that diorama? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,12:01    I am hoping that Raven is right in his/her posts that this "museum" will backfire on the creationists and just show most people how ridiculous this argument is. OTOH. According to the Times (of London) 50% of the USA population believe that evolution is wrong. http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol....419.ece Is that figure (half) correct?

Duvenoy Posts: 6 Joined: Mar. 2003 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,12:55    I have every intention of visiting it -- life has become dreary and I need a good laugh. I'll probably go late this summer, just before the fall surf fishing season when more important matters are at hand. Count me among those who think that this might come back to bite AiG in the ass. It is already being held up to ridicule and I doubt that will decrease. I do not think it will become either the recruitment tool or the gold mine that Ham dreams of. On a smaller scale, it's been done before. I understand that they have "rumbling chairs" in the theater..... Go figger. doov -------------- It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. -- Giordano Bruno

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,12:56    the better question is: is the poll data meaningful? example: from the article you posted-   Quote Although attempts to reintroduce an element of creationism – rebranded as “intelligent design” – into science lessons have foundered, three of ten Republican presidential candidates said in a recent debate that they did not believe in evolution. Opinion polls show consistently that half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created, along with all living creatures, by God 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. emphasis mine. there is a difference between the idea of "special creation" and acceptance of the general tenets of evolutionary theory.  Of course, there shouldn't be, but it does tend to throw off exactly what is meant when one uses the gallup poll data.  the article misstates the question that was asked, as the 50% number comes specifically from the HUMANS were created question, not "all living creatures". that said, general confusion about evolutionary theory is high, and complete acceptance, DOES consistently run very low in the US. IIRC, only Turkey had a lower rate of acceptance than the US. (either PT or Pharyngula had that poll data posted a few months back) ....and of course Harun Yaha is workin frantically to bring the US to equal Turkey's standard :) -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,13:16    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 28 2007,12:56)     Quote Although attempts to reintroduce an element of creationism – rebranded as “intelligent design” – into science lessons have foundered, three of ten Republican presidential candidates said in a recent debate that they did not believe in evolution. Opinion polls show consistently that half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created, along with all living creatures, by God 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. emphasis mine. there is a difference between the idea of "special creation" and acceptance of the general tenets of evolutionary theory.  Of course, there shouldn't be, but it does tend to throw off exactly what is meant when one uses the gallup poll data.  the article misstates the question that was asked, as the 50% number comes specifically from the HUMANS were created question, not "all living creatures". Is there any real major difference? Isn't it important to all practical use of the theory of evolution that humans are included? What use would the medicinal side of evolutionary theory be if humans got created seperately from other creatures?

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,13:34    Quote Is there any real major difference? no, as i said, there shouldn't be, but there is. this relates to the general confusion about evolutionary theory that DOES run rampant in the US (and many other countries, too). the point is not that there isn't confusion on the part of americans, but that the poll questions are answered entirely differently depending on how they are phrased. so, it's not accurate for that article to use poll data that say that americans believe in special creation to say those same americans entirely discount evolution. see? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,13:35    What I want to know is, due to the Museum, will T-Rexes eating coconuts now become a standard tenet of 'consensus Creationism'?   I think the phrase 'Yabba Dabba Doo Science' needs to be used more than it is. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,13:42    Quote I think the phrase 'Yabba Dabba Doo Science' needs to be used more than it is. Flintstoneism? BAM BAM! -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,14:08    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 28 2007,13:34) Quote Is there any real major difference? no, as i said, there shouldn't be, but there is. this relates to the general confusion about evolutionary theory that DOES run rampant in the US (and many other countries, too). the point is not that there isn't confusion on the part of americans, but that the poll questions are answered entirely differently depending on how they are phrased. so, it's not accurate for that article to use poll data that say that americans believe in special creation to say those same americans entirely discount evolution. see? OK. Would I be wrong now in assuming that you have some problem with me? You seem to be adressing me in an antagonistic tone in a few posts now. Have I said or done something to offend you? If so then please explain. The article I linked seemed quite neutral to me.

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,14:12    Stephen, FWIW, the response seemed pretty even keel to me. -------------- Evolander in training

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,14:15    Quote OK. Would I be wrong now in assuming that you have some problem with me? yes, you would. I'm just a very blunt guy, in case you hadn't noticed. Quote The article I linked seemed quite neutral to me. that wasn't the issue, as I understood it, based on your question of whether 50% of americans discount evolution. I merely tried to clarify what the poll data meant, and that the paper added embelishment that wasn't warranted by what the poll was asking, and confuses the issue of exactly what % of americans "discount" evolution. there are lots of americans who i would say accept evolutionary theory, but make the "special creation" exemption. Francis Collins as a well known example. with the way the article you linked to phrased it, Francis Collins would discount evolutionary theory. I hope that's clearer? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,15:34    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ May 28 2007,12:01) OTOH. According to the Times (of London) 50% of the USA population believe that evolution is wrong. Pfffft. Most Americans believe in flying saucers and ESP, too. But then, most Americans can't find Iraq on a world map. Heck, about one in eight Americans can't even find the UNITED STATES on a world map. We are a nation of uneducated morons who don't know a damn thing about anything going on around us. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,15:36    I certainly do hope that the pregnant woman will inspire lots and lots of little fundie kids to ask their parents that most dreaded of questions ---- "Where do babies come from?" Who woulda thought that Ken Ham is a sex educator? (snicker)  (giggle) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,15:58    Quote Who woulda thought that Ken Ham is a sex educator? Ken Ham. Moreover, I think Hammy would be more than happy to convince you that he is an expert on all things, and that he has much to teach in every conceivable field of endeavor or study. which reminds me, does Hammy put "Dr." in front of his name like Hovind does? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,12:50    Quote (GCT @ May 27 2007,12:58) If I lived in the area I'd probably do it, although the thought of giving $20 to AiG is quite a deterrent.  It's not so much spending $20 as it is giving it to AiG. The Cretin Museum has a chapel.  So after your visit, just nip in there and help yourself to $20 when they pass the plate. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,13:42    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 28 2007,14:15) Quote OK. Would I be wrong now in assuming that you have some problem with me? yes, you would. I'm just a very blunt guy, in case you hadn't noticed. Yes, OK. Fair enough.

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,16:17    Quote (JohnW @ May 29 2007,13:50) Quote (GCT @ May 27 2007,12:58) If I lived in the area I'd probably do it, although the thought of giving $20 to AiG is quite a deterrent.  It's not so much spending $20 as it is giving it to AiG. The Cretin Museum has a chapel.  So after your visit, just nip in there and help yourself to $20 when they pass the plate. The point was that I don't want to give my $20 to AiG.  Getting my $20 back wouldn't assuage my guilt at giving money to those snake oil salesmen.

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,16:46    Eight out of eight Americans know that Paris Hilton has been sentenced to 45 days in jail. Americans care about the important stuff and the rest just takes care of itself.  Like, whatever, dude.

Dr.GH Posts: 2324 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,16:52    Quote (GCT @ May 29 2007,16:17) Quote (JohnW @ May 29 2007,13:50) Quote (GCT @ May 27 2007,12:58) If I lived in the area I'd probably do it, although the thought of giving $20 to AiG is quite a deterrent.  It's not so much spending $20 as it is giving it to AiG. The Cretin Museum has a chapel.  So after your visit, just nip in there and help yourself to $20 when they pass the plate. The point was that I don't want to give my $20 to AiG.  Getting my $20 back wouldn't assuage my guilt at giving money to those snake oil salesmen. Would stealing $40 help? -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,18:13    Floating forest? Kids, do you want to use silly "Human Reason" or God's word, that says there were floating forests and the Earth is 6000 years old? Here, have some ice cream. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,18:21    Quote (JohnW @ May 29 2007,12:50) The Cretin Museum has a chapel.  So after your visit, just nip in there and help yourself to $20 when they pass the plate. Take an extra $20, and give it to me so I can get in too. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,20:24    Quote (Dr.GH @ May 29 2007,17:52) Quote (GCT @ May 29 2007,16:17) Quote (JohnW @ May 29 2007,13:50)   Quote (GCT @ May 27 2007,12:58) If I lived in the area I'd probably do it, although the thought of giving $20 to AiG is quite a deterrent.  It's not so much spending $20 as it is giving it to AiG. The Cretin Museum has a chapel.  So after your visit, just nip in there and help yourself to $20 when they pass the plate. The point was that I don't want to give my $20 to AiG.  Getting my $20 back wouldn't assuage my guilt at giving money to those snake oil salesmen. Would stealing $40 help? Only if it came from AiG.

Henry J Posts: 5760 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,21:32    Re "Kids, do you want to use silly "Human Reason" or God's word," The problem of course with "God's word", is deciding what person or persons get the privilege of deciding what God's word is. Henry

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,21:46    Quote (Henry J @ May 29 2007,22:32) Re "Kids, do you want to use silly "Human Reason" or God's word," The problem of course with "God's word", is deciding what person or persons get the privilege of deciding what God's word is. Henry The question is like the classic:  "When did you stop beating your wife?" If they phrased the question differently and more honestly: "Kids, do you want to use scientific method, rational thought and observable evidence or an acient often contradictory document?" I know most of you readying this board already said this to yourself, but I just had to say it out loud.

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,21:51    Quote (ScaryFacts @ May 29 2007,21:46) The question is like the classic:  "When did you stop beating your wife?" Or more to the point, "When will she stop beating me????" -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,21:56    Back on topic:  Does anyone know if the "tours" are guided by real people (who can take questions) or are just driven along by a group of "World of Tomorrow" style pre-recorded messages? Edit:  I am about 4-5 hours away, but would make the trip if I had the opp to actually ask questions of those in charge.  (And if my redhead was willing to be waiting for me afterwards...)

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2007,21:58    Quote (ScaryFacts @ May 29 2007,21:56) Back on topic:  Does anyone know if the "tours" are guided by real people (who can take questions) or are just driven along by a group of "World of Tomorrow" style pre-recorded messages? "Welcome, to the world of tomorrowwwww!" do they have the "Whalers on the Moon" exhibit, I wonder? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,04:13    All I'm saying is that I know how to make certain volatile chemical compounds in situ and can afford a return flight to Kentucky. I am not in any way suggesting we bomb the "museum" at night when no one's around, nor that I fly over and do it. Nor am I advocating that kind of deplorable direct action or asking for anyone to pick me up from the airport, flight number BA8763. I just thought I'd mention that. Louis P.S. Dear Security personnel the world over. Should this message board post reach you, please realise that it is humour, and not serious. There are no encoded messages apart from this one {FCUK FOF OYU ANZI LCONE CSUM. IGVE EM ABCK YM ICVIL ILBERTIES. AFSCIST UCNTS}, and no sleepers will be activated by the following phrase "The eagles they fly high in Mobile". If you have been having a good day, please stop and go petition your boss to stop channelling cash into ever more paranoid "security" and feed a couple of starving kids and buy your oil rather than kill for it. Yes I am willing to see my quality of life decrease to benefit that of others. Wow, a humanitarian! -------------- Bye.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,10:20    Quote (Louis @ May 30 2007,04:13) All I'm saying is that I know how to make certain volatile chemical compounds in situ and can afford a return flight to Kentucky. I am not in any way suggesting we bomb the "museum" at night when no one's around, nor that I fly over and do it. Nor am I advocating that kind of deplorable direct action or asking for anyone to pick me up from the airport, flight number BA8763. I just thought I'd mention that. Louis P.S. Dear Security personnel the world over. Should this message board post reach you, please realise that it is humour, and not serious. There are no encoded messages apart from this one {FCUK FOF OYU ANZI LCONE CSUM. IGVE EM ABCK YM ICVIL ILBERTIES. AFSCIST UCNTS}, and no sleepers will be activated by the following phrase "The eagles they fly high in Mobile". If you have been having a good day, please stop and go petition your boss to stop channelling cash into ever more paranoid "security" and feed a couple of starving kids and buy your oil rather than kill for it. Yes I am willing to see my quality of life decrease to benefit that of others. Wow, a humanitarian! Louis - You're taking a BIG chance that DaveScot will tattle to Dembski, who will tattle to Homeland Security... That said, I will meet you in Chicago, but have taken the liberty of changing your flight plan to leave June 1, as you Brits say, and have booked you first class from Heathrow.  Unfortunately, we will have to fly "Traveller" class to KY, but I think that's what KY Jelly was invented for, right? Incidently, I had to put the 4,178 pounds on your credit card, hope you don't mind.  You may also note that it's only a 1-way ticket, but hey, you'll be a martyer for The Cause, and remembered here for weeks after you're gone.   http://www.britishairways.com/travel....riginal -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,10:36    Quote (J-Dog @ May 30 2007,17:20) Louis - You're taking a BIG chance that DaveScot will tattle to Dembski, who will tattle to Homeland Security... {shrugs, points at self} Not a yank. Homeland who? Let them quiz me, just make sure they wear the gloves! If MI5 or MI6 bash my door down and ask me nasty questions I will explain to them in terms they will fully comprehend that I was joking. The UK intelligence services are actually intelligent on occasion. Shock horror. After all Mark Thomas (google him, the man's a comedy genius) once jokingly offered his columnist's fee for his work in the New Statesman as a bounty on George Bush, and he got way with it. I'm merely discussing the destruction of a "museum" of lies constructed by a dead eyed delusional Aussie import. £4k? But a pittance. And I don't have a credit card, I have a limitless charge card. In fact, I have that card usually at precisely the same time I am having sex with Eliza Cuthbert. Ah if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Louis -------------- Bye.

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,19:09    Quote (Louis @ May 30 2007,10:36) Not a yank. Homeland who? Let them quiz me, just make sure they wear the gloves! Just you wait till you find yourself "extraordinarily renditioned" to a gulag in Poland . . . . . -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,19:46    Cranky ol' yank who think Hammie sideshow's rank is willing to hide ya in her house in Minnesota while you're running from the law, law, law. I'll put you to work canning tomatoes. Loads o'fun. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

qetzal Posts: 311 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,20:03    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 29 2007,21:58)   Quote (ScaryFacts @ May 29 2007,21:56) Back on topic:  Does anyone know if the "tours" are guided by real people (who can take questions) or are just driven along by a group of "World of Tomorrow" style pre-recorded messages? "Welcome, to the world of tomorrowwwww!" do they have the "Whalers on the Moon" exhibit, I wonder? Why not? If The Flood caused the Grand Canyon, no reason there can't be whales on the Moon. (Who says the flood waters couldn't rise high enough to put whales on the Moon?!!1!) Maybe we could sic The Crushinator on Hammie's Playhouse?

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,21:09    Quote (qetzal @ May 30 2007,20:03)   Quote (Ichthyic @ May 29 2007,21:58)       Quote (ScaryFacts @ May 29 2007,21:56) Back on topic:  Does anyone know if the "tours" are guided by real people (who can take questions) or are just driven along by a group of "World of Tomorrow" style pre-recorded messages? "Welcome, to the world of tomorrowwwww!" do they have the "Whalers on the Moon" exhibit, I wonder? Why not? If The Flood caused the Grand Canyon, no reason there can't be whales on the Moon. (Who says the flood waters couldn't rise high enough to put whales on the Moon?!!1!) Maybe we could sic The Crushinator on Hammie's Playhouse? btw, my earlier post was a shameless reference to futurama, which i was reminded of by the "world of tommorrow" phrase. they had an episode where fry goes to the moon... and they've made it into a thempark (ala disneyland), complete with a hugely distorted history including a recurring theme of "whalers on the moon" being the ones primarily responsible for exploring the moon to begin with. yeah, silly, I know, but if you saw it, you'd immediately recognize the parallels with Hammy's new crapseum. ARRR, here, matey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4kYZnnhRqo I think even Fry, if he wandered into Hammy's crapseum, would have said the same thing he did in that clip: "This is stupid" which means a lot, coming from Fry. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

qetzal Posts: 311 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2007,22:13    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 30 2007,21:09) Quote (qetzal @ May 30 2007,20:03)     Quote (Ichthyic @ May 29 2007,21:58)         Quote (ScaryFacts @ May 29 2007,21:56) Back on topic:  Does anyone know if the "tours" are guided by real people (who can take questions) or are just driven along by a group of "World of Tomorrow" style pre-recorded messages? "Welcome, to the world of tomorrowwwww!" do they have the "Whalers on the Moon" exhibit, I wonder? Why not? If The Flood caused the Grand Canyon, no reason there can't be whales on the Moon. (Who says the flood waters couldn't rise high enough to put whales on the Moon?!!1!) Maybe we could sic The Crushinator on Hammie's Playhouse? btw, my earlier post was a shameless reference to futurama, which i was reminded of by the "world of tommorrow" phrase. they had an episode where fry goes to the moon... and they've made it into a thempark (ala disneyland), complete with a hugely distorted history including a recurring theme of "whalers on the moon" being the ones primarily responsible for exploring the moon to begin with. yeah, silly, I know, but if you saw it, you'd immediately recognize the parallels with Hammy's new crapseum. ARRR, here, matey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4kYZnnhRqo I think even Fry, if he wandered into Hammy's crapseum, would have said the same thing he did in that clip: "This is stupid" which means a lot, coming from Fry. Watchin' the Big Piece of Garbage episode right now. Classic. Fry (after using the Smelloscope to smell Saturn (strawberries!) and Jupiter (pine needles!)): Just don't make me smell Uranus! The Professor: Fry, they renamed it to get rid of that joke once and for all. Fry: What do they call it now? The Professor: Urectum. Sorry. We now return you to your regularly scheduled creo-bashing.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2007,10:20    Quote (qetzal @ May 30 2007,22:13) Fry (after using the Smelloscope to smell Saturn (strawberries!) and Jupiter (pine needles!)): Just don't make me smell Uranus! The Professor: Fry, they renamed it to get rid of that joke once and for all. Fry: What do they call it now? The Professor: Urectum. Sorry. We now return you to your regularly scheduled creo-bashing. Rectum?  It damned near killed him! We now return you to your regularly scheduled creo-bashing. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2007,22:08    AIG is being sued by the Australian version of AIG I hereby buy you all a round of drinks. (sorry, you have to come to Chapel Hill to collect)

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2007,22:56    Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2007,22:08) AIG is being sued by the Australian version of AIG Hey, maybe we'll be able to buy a creation, uh, "museum" soon.  Really cheap. (snicker)  (giggle)   "Witchcraft"?  "Necrophilia"? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2007,17:37    Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2007,21:08) AIG is being sued by the Australian version of AIG I hereby buy you all a round of drinks. (sorry, you have to come to Chapel Hill to collect) *Lifts cup of Hershey kisses* I'm bingeing in celebration. "And the Lord didst create idiots, and lo(l) he saw it was terrible..." -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 05 2007,13:38    In a world created without death this should speak for itself. -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 06 2007,02:31    http://www.mccranium.org/?p=506 Creation Museum needs a Geologist   Quote    Speaker and Researcher of Geology    Reports to: Mark Looy (for the moment)    Duties and Responsibilities    - Speak to layperson (and occasional science) groups across the country as requested through AiG Outreach Dept. Expected travel a minimum of 25%.    - Literature and field research.    - Write regular articles for web and other AiG publications.    - Produce books, DVDs, curriculum materials, etc.    Education, Experience and Skill Requirements    - Doctorate in geology preferred, or some other related scientific discipline (e.g., paleontology).    - Minimum of 5 years’ field or teaching experience in study discipline.    - Extremely strong knowledge of creation – understanding both the biblical and scientific arguments.    - Articulate and engaging speaker is a must, along with the willingness to be mentored in order to become an even better speaker (i.e., to be “teachable”).    - Ability to express concepts in writing    Items needed for possible employment    - Resume    - Salvation testimony    - Creation belief statement    - Confirmation of your agreement with the AiG Statement of Faith http://www.answersingenesis.org/home....Speaker -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 08 2007,15:58    Ars Technica looks at the idiotic museum.

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,02:42    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin....D34.DTL Quote The man who plays Adam in a video aired at a Bible-based creationist museum has led a different life outside the Garden of Eden, flaunting his sexual exploits online and modeling for a clothing line that promotes free love. After learning about his activities Thursday, the Creation Museum in Kentucky pulled the 40-second video in which he appears. "We are currently investigating the veracity of these serious claims of his participation in projects that don't align with the biblical standards and moral code upon which the ministry was founded," Answers for Genesis spokesman Mark Looy said in a written statement. Is that a fig leaf or are you just happy to see me? -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,02:56    Quote (stevestory @ June 08 2007,15:58) Ars Technica looks at the idiotic museum. I love some of the Flickr comments. http://www.flickr.com/photos....1874014 Re: the ark Quote Which stateroom accommodated the 350,000 species of beetles? ... oh...apparently they just needed a couple--the variety is supposed to have recovered rapidly after that :) ... If they recover that fast and diversify just as fast,... Well heck then all he really needed was like 2 mammals, 2 amphibians, 2 birds, 2 fish, 2 insects and 2 reptiles. Oh I see,.. Boy! God is a tricksy one! God made him lug around all those extras so that they would have food for the journey. Unfortunately they forgot that the had to keep 2 of every animal GROUP and accidentally ate cyclopses first.. (See I should write for the museum, I can make up all kinds of crazy BS) Also Jesus was actually Asian, and the first Ninja ever! ... Say, who was hosting all of those obligate parasites, bacteria, and viruses?? You know, like tapeworms, polio, smallpox, cholera, plaque, diptheria, etc., etc., etc... Those gems of God's creation obviously survived the flood, too. ... Also Jesus was actually Asian, no, you're wrong. he was mexican. ... I hope they made a safe place for the termites. So much wood ... yum yum. ... So, I guess the whole idea of this crap-a-rama is to not ask yourself any questions that would obviously pop into the mind of a 9 year old. That's how it makes "sense". ... I'm gonna go with Pirate Jesus rather then Ninja Jesus. ... Jesus was neither pirate nor ninja. Jesus was a zombie. Who else would rise from the dead? ... Gotta admiyt...pretty cool that Noah built that all by himself in short period of time too. I think even Chuck Norris would break a sweat doing that. Oh God helped? That makes sense then. It was one of those "I know it's impossible, but it has to be done so do it anyway." *Sings* And don't you for get my Unicorns!... -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

guthrie Posts: 696 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,05:41    Oddly enough, that building looks like a bank in the ArsTechnica article.  I wonder why? Thats an interesting dress Eve seems to be wearing.  Shouldn't she be nude in the era before sin?  Putting a dress on her is against the biblical tenet, surely?

silverspoon Posts: 123 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,08:29    If that’s supposed to be a replication of the ark, then AIG has gone a tad overboard (pun intended). According to the bible the ark was three stories high, not five. -------------- Grand Poobah of the nuclear mafia

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,09:58    Robot Chicken God hates freaks.

Henry J Posts: 5760 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,12:24    Re "Jesus was neither pirate nor ninja. Jesus was a zombie. Who else would rise from the dead?" A vampire? Henry

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 11 2007,11:26    Oh lookie!  He's got some Canadian Competition! -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 11 2007,11:38    Quote Jesus was neither pirate nor ninja. Jesus was a zombie. Who else would rise from the dead? I like to think of Jesus, like, with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with, like, an angel band.  - Cal Naughton, Jr. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 11 2007,13:44    Quote (carlsonjok @ June 11 2007,11:38) Quote Jesus was neither pirate nor ninja. Jesus was a zombie. Who else would rise from the dead? I like to think of Jesus, like, with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with, like, an angel band.  - Cal Naughton, Jr. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....day.php someone in that thread pointed out that these might be not be zombies, but rather ghouls, since they don't appear to be going for the tasty brains first. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 11 2007,17:58    Quote With all of that bummer shit going down, at least humankind was given weed. You’ve had a hard day out in the fields Adam, take a load off and smoke a bowl. http://crazytalk.typepad.com/bluegra....ea.html

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,17:31    Nice bumper sticker for the museum!! http://defconblog.org/2007/05/gettin-stupider-er/ He he. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,18:56    LOL

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,19:47    ROTFLMAO! *Claps* And that's my favorite episode of Robot Chicken BTW. *Slaps head* Hey! I've got an idea for a testable hypothesis! Let's flood the Creation Museum with water for 40 days and 40 nights, and see if the exhibits sort themselves according to the strata that we see in the fossil record, with the paper mache trilobites below the dinosaurs and the flowering plants above the trees. You telling me there isn't any Flood-themed water park in the joint? What a rip-off! -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,19:51    Quote (Kristine @ June 12 2007,19:47) ROTFLMAO! *Claps* And that's my favorite episode of Robot Chicken BTW. *Slaps head* Hey! I've got an idea for a testable hypothesis! Let's flood the Creation Museum with water for 40 days and 40 nights, and see if the exhibits sort themselves according to the strata that we see in the fossil record, with the paper mache trilobites below the dinosaurs and the flowering plants above the trees. You telling me there isn't any Flood-themed water park in the joint? What a rip-off! :) that's a fantastic idea! and I mean that seriously.  there was an excellent protest run by a group that was flooding buildings in downtown Santa Cruz to halt the incursion of big chain coffee and clothing and book stores. it worked; well to some extent, anyway. the city council got the message, canceled many of the contracts, but the council was replaced about 2 years later, and the chains moved right on in after that. still, I think it made a splash. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,19:58    Quote (Kristine @ June 12 2007,19:47) ROTFLMAO! *Claps* And that's my favorite episode of Robot Chicken BTW. *Slaps head* Hey! I've got an idea for a testable hypothesis! Let's flood the Creation Museum with water for 40 days and 40 nights, and see if the exhibits sort themselves according to the strata that we see in the fossil record, with the paper mache trilobites below the dinosaurs and the flowering plants above the trees. You telling me there isn't any Flood-themed water park in the joint? What a rip-off! :) Now there's a science experiment I'd love to see... -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 12 2007,23:46    Of course the logistics would be difficult. We could just try to back up all the toilets at the same time (which totally did not work as a high school senior prank). -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 13 2007,01:36    nope. hoses. through the roof. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 13 2007,09:15    Like serpents???!!!! Lilith here is willing! -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 13 2007,09:49    Quote nope. hoses. through the roof. and Quote Like serpents???!!!! :D Lilith here is willing! But you also have to flood the drain system so water floods up from the deep. Make sure it's comes out at a decent pressure otherwise it won't qualify as a fountain. Louis -------------- Bye.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 15 2007,15:08    Oh, I'm sorry, were you waiting for me to say this: WATERLOO!!!!!!?? -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,06:48    Another review of the creationist museum.  This one over 200 pictures long! -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4966 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,08:26    A batch of the PT contributors and commenters went to the AiG Creation Museum yesterday. We'll be posting our thoughts as we get the chance. I have my preliminary bit up at my weblog. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,10:09    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 18 2007,08:26) A batch of the PT contributors and commenters went to the AiG Creation Museum yesterday. We'll be posting our thoughts as we get the chance. I have my preliminary bit up at my weblog. Thank you for putting up with what had to be a dangerous level of tard, so that we can be spared.  I am looking forward to the PT Reports. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,20:20    So, anybody doing anything special for The One Year Anniversery of The Flintstones Museum? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,20:27    Quote (J-Dog @ May 27 2008,21:20) So, anybody doing anything special for The One Year Anniversery of The Flintstones Museum? No, but I hear they're expanding... -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Quidam Posts: 229 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,23:47    -------------- The organized fossils ... and their localities also, may be understood by all, even the most illiterate. William Smith, Strata. 1816

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,10:06    Quote (Quidam @ May 27 2008,23:47) Ah.... Praise Jesus! The kid got turned into strawberry jam.  It's another Friggin' Miracle™! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,10:34    * sneer * Ken Ham may have animatronic dinos and the Fall of Man Bungee Jump, but we've got teh real Hi-Tech! -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,11:30    Quote (Amadan @ May 28 2008,10:34) * sneer * Ken Ham may have animatronic dinos and the Fall of Man Bungee Jump, but we've got teh real Hi-Tech! Wow.  That is indeed a Terrific Tard-Mine.  One of your favorite boards?   Perhaps we could have a contest?  Our All-American Tards vs. your Irish Tards?  Winner to take on The Euro-Tard Champion?   For the Tard Of The Universe? I hate to sound jingoistic, BUT, our All-American Tard Lineup is going to have some awfully Tarderrific performers: Sal, DaveTard hisself, Joe G, BA77 (filter included)... AND MANY, MANY MORE! The rules commission of course will have to rule on Densye O'Leary.  She is Canadian, but performs most of her tard here in The States... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,19:05    Nah, I only go there to make sure that the local boys are maintaining standards. (They do). Besides, my handle has already been nabbed there, so I have to post as Crocoduck Rex. The One True Tardlode is in Murka, not Yurrp. There are very good reasons for this. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2008,20:56    Creation Museum Draws Big Crowds

Sealawr Posts: 54 Joined: Feb. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2008,22:40    [ILike serpents???!!!! Lilith here is willing! ][/I] Thread winner! -------------- DS: "The explantory filter is as robust as the data that is used with it." David Klinghoffer: ""I'm an IDiot"

Sealawr Posts: 54 Joined: Feb. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2008,22:42    Like serpents???!!!! Lilith here is willing! S#%t  ! Thread winner! (that's better) -------------- DS: "The explantory filter is as robust as the data that is used with it." David Klinghoffer: ""I'm an IDiot"

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4966 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2008,22:13    Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95! The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Dr.GH Posts: 2324 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,00:00    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 30 2008,20:13) Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95! The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer. SHIT! THOSE MOFOs. Well, I never have given them any money, so the promise that I NEVER WILL hasn't got much sting. They have not really lost anything. That is a problem. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,07:59    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 30 2008,22:13) Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95! The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer. Somebody should be losing his or her job over this one! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Ra-Úl Posts: 93 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,11:41    Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 01 2008,07:59) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 30 2008,22:13) Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95! The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer. Somebody should be losing his or her job over this one! Ok. Which one of you CBEB'S has the 'Expel' button? I think it's high to use the damn thing, otherwise why even have it. -------------- Beauty is that which makes us desperate. - P Valery

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,13:19    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 30 2008,20:13) Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95! The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer. In case you haven't seen this yet, looks like the zoo backed down: Quote A promotional deal between the Cincinnati Zoo and the Creation Museum was scuttled Monday after the zoo received dozens of angry calls and emails about the partnership. The promotion was billed as “Two Great Attractions, One Great Deal” and offered a package deal on tickets for the zoo’s annual Festival of Lights and a museum event called Bethlehem’s Blessings. The deal appeared on web sites for both institutions Friday, but it was pulled by the zoo Monday morning after complaints about the partnership started pouring in. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4966 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,14:39    I just added an update for my blog: Quote Update: The Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Cincinnati Zoo has removed the double ticket package with the AIG Creation Museum. The CZ flacks apparently still don't get it, saying that they did so because all the negative feedback was a "distraction". So don't expect them to get it right in the future; they have not indicated that they have had a learning experience. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,15:13    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 01 2008,12:39) I just added an update for my blog: Quote Update: The Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Cincinnati Zoo has removed the double ticket package with the AIG Creation Museum. The CZ flacks apparently still don't get it, saying that they did so because all the negative feedback was a "distraction". So don't expect them to get it right in the future; they have not indicated that they have had a learning experience. I get the strong sense that most of the staff are away for Thanksgiving, leaving FTK's less-intelligent cousin with the keys. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Wolfhound Posts: 468 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2008,15:51    Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 01 2008,15:13) I get the strong sense that most of the staff are away for Thanksgiving, leaving FTK's less-intelligent cousin with the keys. Is that the one who fathered her children or her husband?  Obviously, I'd conclude that the one of lesser intellect is the one who married her but one never knows. -------------- I've found my personality to be an effective form of birth control.

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