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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:50
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 16 2014,14:42)Name a specific feature of a living thing best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Bear in mind that not all unguided processes in evolution involve selection.
The intelligent behavior, of intelligent animals.

I already won. So now I'm getting back to work on the ID Lab.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:46
Post by NoName
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 16 2014,15:39)...
For there to be a question I am obliged to answer you must first operationally define your terminology "evolve unguided except by natural selection" and "designed".

You're otherwise still just throwing ambiguous generalizations around, as an excuse for not being able to show why certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

The shame for not even being willing to try, is entirely on you.
You really should stand in front of a mirror and recite this to yourself.
It's actually pretty funny coming from the guy who doesn't have a single operational definition in his 'theory', who constantly tosses around unfounded generalizations, and consistently provides excuses for why he shouldn't have to meet the same criteria expected of scientists in general or of scientific theories.
The shame is that even after all this time, we still try to engage with you.

But let's try to flip the issue around for once -- can you name a single 'feature of the universe' or a single entity that is not the result of intelligent design or an'intelligent cause'?
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:42
Post by midwifetoad
Name a specific feature of a living thing best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:39
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 16 2014,14:17)Assume evolve unguided except by natural selection and answer the question.

Name a feature that was designed.
For there to be a question I am obliged to answer you must first operationally define your terminology "evolve unguided except by natural selection" and "designed".

You're otherwise still just throwing ambiguous generalizations around, as an excuse for not being able to show why certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

The shame for not even being willing to try, is entirely on you.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:17
Post by midwifetoad
Assume evolve unguided except by natural selection and answer the question.

Name a feature that was designed.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:13
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 16 2014,13:37)No Gary, name a feature that did not evolve.
Show me where in the following information it says "did not evolve".

  Quote The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

http://www.discovery.org/csc........ons.php


If you cannot address the real premise of the theory then your opinions are already scientifically irrelevant.

I'm not obliged to entertain your deceptions.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:06
Post by NoName
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 16 2014,15:01)BTW: I have been spending all my free-time on the ID Lab and what I now have is already lifelike enough to be a little bit scary. And not because how it (still) works is complicated, it's because it's not. Something to respect and be careful with, or else (one way or another) be destroyed by.

Don't be in a rush to let the more theatrical thrills and shocks of a human (to human created intelligence) intelligent causation event now happening in our lifetime lead all to a tragically enslaving Karn Evil 9 ending.
Eliza was lifelike enough to be a little scary.
BFD.

You've been wasting your time with the ID-Lab -- it can accomplish nothing for you or for your 'theory' or for human knowledge.

But it's hardly surprising to see you meet the usual points raised against your nonsense with your standard "look over there" deflection and distraction.

You still don't have a clue as to just what 'features of the universe'** are 'best explained' by an 'intelligent cause', nor any idea what 'intelligence' is.  One suspects you don't even have a clue as to what a cause is.


** [by which we assume you mean 'entities in the universe'; the universe itself, the sum total of all that exists, has no more features than any collection]
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 20:01
Post by GaryGaulin
BTW: I have been spending all my free-time on the ID Lab and what I now have is already lifelike enough to be a little bit scary. And not because how it (still) works is complicated, it's because it's not. Something to respect and be careful with, or else (one way or another) be destroyed by.

Don't be in a rush to let the more theatrical thrills and shocks of a human (to human created intelligence) intelligent causation event now happening in our lifetime lead all to a tragically enslaving Karn Evil 9 ending.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 19:37
Post by midwifetoad
No Gary, name a feature that did not evolve.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-02-16 19:13
Post by REC
This, from Sal, seems worth preserving. He's all about phylogenetic methods, but resorts to nonsense about "gaps between created kinds" to scuttle the obvious evolutionary implications of a sound method.

Quote They ignore obvious gaps between created kinds...

Otherwise, the phylogenetic methods for a created kind I think are really cool. They’ve been used to reconstruct Y-chromosomal Aaron, and possibly Abraham, and maybe, just Maybe Noah or the daughters in law of Noah. We’ll see. I’m not totally against phylogeny, but I don’t believe in 1 universal phylogenetic tree, I believe in an orchard of phylogenetic trees.

UD link
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A reversal in South Carolina?

Just three days after the South Carolina Education Oversight Committee refused to approve a section of the new state science standards involving evolution, Senator Mike Fair (R-District 6), a member of the committee whose opposition was responsible for the refusal, is reportedly withdrawing his objection.

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RNCSE 34:1 now on-line

NCSE is pleased to announce that the latest issue of Reports of the National Center for Science Education is now available on-line.

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NABT opposes Oklahoma's antiscience bill

The National Association of Biology Teachers expressed its opposition to Oklahoma's Senate Bill 1765 (document), which, if enacted, would deprive administrators of the ability to prevent teachers from miseducating students about "scientific controversies."

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Aykut Kence dies

The Turkish biologist Aykut Kence died on February 1, 2014, at the age of 67, according to soL Portal (February 1, 2014).

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For Darwin Day, Discovery Institute Names University of Chicago Biologist Jerry Coyne as "Censor of the Year"

ID the Future - Fri, 2014-02-14 06:09
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, David Klinghoffer announces Discovery Institute's 2013 Censor of the Year award. Listen in as Klinghoffer explains why we've chosen to recognize University of Chicago biologist Jerry Coyne, out of several...
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Dr. Michael Egnor: How Science is Censored

ID the Future - Fri, 2014-02-14 06:09
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, Dr. Michael Egnor is on the show again to talk more about his recent debates with atheist evolutionary biologist Dr. Jerry Coyne. Listen in as Egnor and Research Coordinator Casey...
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In Love With Death: Belgium Passes Child-Euthanasia Law

Targeting the youngest and most vulnerable, in the name of principles that sound high-minded, may hold a sadistic allure for a certain personality. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Suggestion to Our Readers: Edit Wikipedia and Correct the Lincoln/Darwin Myth

I'll then set my stopwatch and see what happens. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Wikipedia Invents a Mythical Account of Lincoln and Darwin

Wikipedia makes up a fanciful story about Abraham Lincoln reading and being deeply moved by Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species. John G. West http://www.discovery.org/p/18
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Help Us Educate the Next Generation of Scientists and Scholars!

World Magazine interviewed (anonymously in some case) students who participated in last year's Summer Seminar. Evolution News & Views
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