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Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (blipey @ Jan. 30 2013,23:25)Gary,

What novel introduced the Theory of Relativity?  Or are you retracting your earlier statement about scientific theories?
I am purposely ignoring your constant misrepresentation of what I say, by not answering to something I never said...

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 30 2013,22:12)   Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 30 2013,19:34)   Quote  I ..... just thought it would be a good idea to show you how easily anyone of any religion (even Atheist religion) can become one too.
As has often been said before, atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.  Atheism is not a religious belief, but the absence of religious beliefs.  It's a matter of going along with the evidence.

The US Supreme Court found otherwise. Your objection is overruled.

Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 30 2013,22:12)For example, on the basis of the evidence in this thread, it seems to be much easier to become a minister than a scientist.
Whatever.. Just keep the equally science-bashing religious belief you are now defending out of the US public school science classroom, or else face the same fate as the Dover, PA school board members.

Post by blipey
Gary,

What novel introduced the Theory of Relativity?  Or are you retracting your earlier statement about scientific theories?

Post by The whole truth
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 30 2013,08:37) Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 24 2013,00:33)Way cool:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs......84.html
That is way cool! Thanks for sharing that TWT!
You're welcome Robin, and I want to add that I really enjoy the pictures you post and the pictures that other people post.

Post by N.Wells
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 30 2013,19:34) Quote  I ..... just thought it would be a good idea to show you how easily anyone of any religion (even Atheist religion) can become one too.
As has often been said before, atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.  Atheism is not a religious belief, but the absence of religious beliefs.  It's a matter of going along with the evidence.

For example, on the basis of the evidence in this thread, it seems to be much easier to become a minister than a scientist.

Click here to listen. On this episode of ID the Future, Casey Luskin shows how the film The Revisionaries revises history. Coming soon to PBS, The Revisionaries falsely suggests that intelligent design and creationism were required in the 2009...

Post by OgreMkV
Quite a long time ago, someone... somewhere posted a graph of publications for Behe... showing how many papers were published each year.

Does anyone know if that app is still available (it was an app, not a look up and build an excel spreadsheet) and where it is?

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 30 2013,18:11) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 30 2013,17:07)   Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 30 2013,05:36)         Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 27 2013,16:32)         Quote (Woodbine @ Jan. 27 2013,15:53)Oh, this is too good.

Gary now claims he is an ordained minister for the Church of the God Within. Seems legit, eh?

A quick Googling brings up this site.

Here's a taste....



Typical crazy website.com. But it gets better! Hey let's click on the title banner....NSFW!!!!



Whoops a daisy!... :O

Salon magazine did an article on 'Ordained Minister' Kellie Everts. Here's the front page.



So there we have it. I really don't know what to say. But, fuck this is some quality kinky tard we've unearthed!

:D
No that is not the one, nor was it a "new religion". They were OK with my scientific Methodist experience and I soon received my ordination in the mail.
So the outfit that Gary was associated with was a *different* "Church of the God Within"? Can Gary provide a link to a webpage or even a corresponding address of the "Church of the God Within" that he was associated with?

My expectation is that he can't.
Date of ordination is July 7, 1979

It was signed by Rev. Stephen J. Postal D.D.



If you want to become an ordained Minister too then here's some of the many options that are available to you for free (but it will not have a big gold seal and look as nice as mine):

http://firstchurchofatheism.com/....ism....ism.com
http://www.atheistactivist.org/Ordaine....ed.html

P.S. I got mine through mail order and have no idea what the (if there is one) church is like, I was never there.
GuideStar hasn't got much to go on with that.

Why does Gary think I would want an atheist ordination? He is very uninformed about me.
It's very likely that the "Church of the God Within Inc." no longer exists, especially after the IRS got wise to people using them for cheating on income taxes (I only got mine as a protest against religious corruption that was becoming rampant and all the senseless science bashing).

I didn't think you would be interested in becoming a legally ordained Minister but just thought it would be a good idea to show you how easily anyone of any religion (even Atheist religion) can become one too.

Post by Patrick
Quote (Glen Davidson @ Jan. 30 2013,19:41)You'd think we would have already done so if we were really as intent on serving Satan as they claim that we are.  I mean really, I only want to serve Satan a little bit.

Glen Davidson
C'mon, he deserves more than that.

Post by Glen Davidson
Quote (Ptaylor @ Jan. 30 2013,15:55)JoeMorreale1187 makes some silly comments on that thread, but hey, he's new to UD. Leave it to long-timer StephenB to state the UD/ID position in a nutshell:
    Quote Transformation in Christ is the only evolution that matters.
Link
ASSF!
Yes, it's amazing, we've conspired for years to claim that ID was all about religion, only for Corny, StephenB, etc., to point out now that all that really matters is, you know, religion.  And we should consider becoming the atheist-boot-licking sellouts, the theistic evolutionists.

Why, so we could seduce more Christians to perdition?  You'd think we would have already done so if we were really as intent on serving Satan as they claim that we are.  I mean really, I only want to serve Satan a little bit.

Glen Davidson

Post by GaryGaulin
Oops, I was in a rush and forgot the link to the info on dancing bots (not programmed animatronic robots).

http://talkrational.org/showthr....t990115

Since I'm considered dirt I'm not worthy of the privilege to edit posts. This reply goes with the last one I made.

Post by JohnW
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 30 2013,15:59)JoeMorreale has just revealed himself to be a muslim. Prompting this:

link

  Quote Ask your Muslim friends to join in! UD needs fresh perspectives to broaden the focus of ID science beyond sectarian Christianity. After all, science is science and Islam has made signal contributions to scientific progress.

ID has some kind of rootedness in sectarian christianity?

Well, Shut, my, mouth!
Hmmm...
Quote 8  JoeMorreale1187 January 30, 2013 at 11:59 am

There is a great book ‘The Spiritual Brain: A Neuroscientist case for the existence for the Soul’ by Mario Beauragard and Denyse O’Leary which I highly recommend .
Poe, or a Denyse sockpuppet trolling for business?

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 30 2013,09:36)gary can you program your bug to "choose" to dance and sing some little ditty it made up about how the ravens are going to win the superbowl?  

that would be pretty cool.  and certainly intelligently caused right?  think i am getting the hang of this new terminology now.
Actually yes.

See this link but do not play the first (and probably the best) video for the Stuner-X that is no longer on YouTube. Link to a still working video is here:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....AVyxvXM

Post by Wesley R. Elsberry
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 30 2013,17:07) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 30 2013,05:36)       Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 27 2013,16:32)       Quote (Woodbine @ Jan. 27 2013,15:53)Oh, this is too good.

Gary now claims he is an ordained minister for the Church of the God Within. Seems legit, eh?

A quick Googling brings up this site.

Here's a taste....



Typical crazy website.com. But it gets better! Hey let's click on the title banner....NSFW!!!!



Whoops a daisy!... :O

Salon magazine did an article on 'Ordained Minister' Kellie Everts. Here's the front page.



So there we have it. I really don't know what to say. But, fuck this is some quality kinky tard we've unearthed!

:D
No that is not the one, nor was it a "new religion". They were OK with my scientific Methodist experience and I soon received my ordination in the mail.
So the outfit that Gary was associated with was a *different* "Church of the God Within"? Can Gary provide a link to a webpage or even a corresponding address of the "Church of the God Within" that he was associated with?

My expectation is that he can't.
Date of ordination is July 7, 1979

It was signed by Rev. Stephen J. Postal D.D.



If you want to become an ordained Minister too then here's some of the many options that are available to you for free (but it will not have a big gold seal and look as nice as mine):

http://firstchurchofatheism.com/....ism....ism.com
http://www.atheistactivist.org/Ordaine....ed.html

P.S. I got mine through mail order and have no idea what the (if there is one) church is like, I was never there.
GuideStar hasn't got much to go on with that.

Why does Gary think I would want an atheist ordination? He is very uninformed about me.

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (damitall @ Jan. 30 2013,08:05) Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Jan. 30 2013,07:41)"...a nonrandom force guided self-assembly process"

There is trouble with grammar and/or punctuation that renders this unintelligible.  I can't even suggest a correction because I have no idea what you're trying to describe.
I suspect that "guided self-assembly" or "guided assembly" might come closer to what he thinks he means.

It's a moot point as to whether "guided" and "self" are mutually exclusive in the context.

Whatever.
Yesterday, after adding the word "collective", I rewrote it a number of ways including without the word "force" then let my wife pick the one that made the most sense to her. The only one she liked was what I started with that has the word "force" in it, because of that being a big help to someone like her with no background in science. Your objection was overruled, in order to make the theory understandable to those who do more than scan for keywords to make a religious issue out of.

Post by stevestory
JoeMorreale has just revealed himself to be a muslim. Prompting this:

link

Quote Ask your Muslim friends to join in! UD needs fresh perspectives to broaden the focus of ID science beyond sectarian Christianity. After all, science is science and Islam has made signal contributions to scientific progress.

ID has some kind of rootedness in sectarian christianity?

Well, Shut, my, mouth!

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 30 2013,05:33) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 27 2013,18:09)   Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 27 2013,17:49)       Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 27 2013,16:17)         Quote (Glen Davidson @ Jan. 27 2013,15:42)Simple question:  What do almost all "blacklisted theories" have in common?
They eventually became the most important theories in science. That’s because the more paradigm changing they are, the harder hidebound academics fight them. Therefore Galileo and others ended up in a battle where they were forced to instead address their arguments to the enlightened public at large.

History is repeating itself. And all who see no importance in trying to make sense of the theory are getting what they deserve, for having chosen the path they took...
Gary doesn't know much about history. He has a fantasy about Galileo that  might have occurred in some alternate universe.
Do you have evidence that this (one of a number of accounts including PBS documentary) is incorrect?

    Quote Soon, however, Galileo--flamboyant by nature--decided that Copernicus was worth a fight. He decided to address his arguments to the enlightened public at large, rather than the hidebound academics.  He saw more hope for gaining support among businessmen, gentlemen, princes, and Jesuit astronomers than among the vested apologists of universities.  He seemed compelled to act as a consultant in natural philosophy to all who would listen.  He wrote  in tracts, pamphlets, letters, and dialogues--not in the turgid, polysyllabic manner of a university pedant, but simply and directly.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty....nt.html

All evidence indicates that you're just another academic apologist, helping to twist the truth, for personal political gain.
It might help if Gary read the essay that Gary was quoting from, where is it clear that the hidebound academics Galileo had trouble with were clerics in the Catholic Church. Nor was Galileo forced to address the general public; it was because he chose to do so that the Holy Inquisition of the Catholic Church forced him to *stop* doing so.

Unfortunately, it seems that Gary is not open to any other procedure than proof-texting.
Galileo's professors (who first tried to get rid of him) were "clerics in the Catholic Church"?

What does the word "Jesuit" (as in "Jesuit astronomers" he gained support from) mean?

Coming up with the term "proof-texting" was also a sleazy way to attempt to discredit the theory that I add to as I find new evidence and information that it needs..

There seems to be no utility, in evolutionary terms, in women living decades past childbearing age. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209

We know that a highly repetitive pattern displays order but not information. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209