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"A Computer Just Passed the Turing Test in Landmark Trial" -- Or Did It? The Hype on That One Lasted About a Day

What Discovery Institute's Wesley Smith calls "human exceptionalism" remains the best science that we have. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Cosmos Finale Takes One Last Shot at the "Delusion that We Have Some Privileged Position in the Universe"

It was a fitting end, in keeping with what we've seen already in the series. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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Darwin's Finches Show Rule-Constrained Variation in Beak Shape

When does a beak remain a beak? When developmental rules keep it from becoming something else. Evolution News & Views
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Video: Stephen Meyer on Responding to Critics of Darwin's Doubt

The duration of the Cambrian explosion, Charles Marshall's review in Science, the challenge from cladistics -- Dr. Meyer considers all the most frequently promoted challenges. Evolution News & Views
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Counting to God: New Book by Douglas Ell Introduces the Evidence for Intelligent Design

A lot of books -- many of them very good -- have been written about the debate over intelligent design. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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Mob Rule: The Final Installment of Cosmos Is Thick with Irony

The episode opened with Tyson giving a tour of a beautifully computer-generated model of the great Library of Alexandria in Egypt. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Which Is the Real PZ Myers?

PZ Myers spoke at Town Hall in Seattle last Thursday night and I attended with a couple of friends and co-workers from Discovery Institute. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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Why Human Evolution Happened Only Once: The Question No One Has to Answer

Start by insisting that absolutely everything is a big accident. Denyse O'Leary
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A new Bloomberg poll on climate change

A new Bloomberg News National Poll included (PDF) questions about whether climate change is a threat, whether it is worth increasing energy costs to prevent climate change, and whether scientists are to be trusted about climate change.

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Antievolution proposal rejected in South Carolina

The South Carolina state board of education rejected the Education Oversight Committee's proposal to revise the state science standards to require students to "[c]onstruct scientific arguments that seem to support and scientific arguments that seem to discredit Darwinian natural selection" at its June 11, 2014, meeting, according to the Charleston Post and Courier (June 11, 2014). 

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Jonathan Wells: Is There Biological Information Outside of the DNA?

ID the Future - Tue, 2014-06-03 18:44
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, Casey Luskin talks with Dr. Jonathan Wells about his newly published article, "Membrane Patterns Carry Ontogenetic Information That Is Specified Independently of DNA." In this first of a series of...
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Cornelius Hunter Thread

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 18:41
Post by midwifetoad
Corny stoll his webpage images from somewhere:

http://informatika.stei.itb.ac.id/~rinald....076.pdf

And does Ken ham show up in one of the slides?

http://www.darwinscholars.com/....ars.com
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 18:35
Post by NoName
It would still be appallingly anti-semantic.
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Cornelius Hunter Thread

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 18:28
Post by Doc Bill
Did you see the latest?

"Darwin Scholars" an affordable on-line course offered by none other than Corny his own self.

$1600 for the full set!

Holy Shamoly, he's become a televangelist!
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 18:11
Post by stevestory
I'll be happy to award that Sentence of the Week, but first we'll need to find a group of Theoretical Grammarians who can translate it into Standard American English.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 17:49
Post by JohnW
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 02 2014,21:51) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 02 2014,23:00)From the NCSE thread:

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Gary Gaulin • 5 days ago

Hi Stephanie.

I'm wondering whether you believe this is a testable scientific theory or "God in the gaps" religion:

http://theoryofid.blogspot.com/....pot....pot.com

Wishing you luck!

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   Wesley Elsberry Gary Gaulin • 9 hours ago

   It's incoherent, self-contradictory word salad. See http://tinyurl.com/p7ye4n8....p7ye4n8

   I responded to a similar entry by Gary at a Smithsonian online article:

   Check it out for how Gary responds to anything other than instant adulation. (The start of that can be seen happening once again here.)

   Synopsis: Gary's code doesn't implement any of Arnold Trehub's actual neural models, nor does Gary's code implement anything beyond a simulation premised on David Heiserman's "beta"-class robot, though Gary's text relies on Heiserman's use of "educated guess" ("good guess" in Gaulinese) that Heiserman reserved for his "gamma"-class robots, a long step beyond what Gary so far publicly offers code for. In response to criticism, Gary will, on past form, denigrate any critic's credentials (though Gary has not much himself so far as I know); claim that critics must be dissing the sources Gary cites rather than Gary's bizarre mash-up of them; thoroughly misunderstand and misrepresent sources (including ones he himself cites); bizarrely claim that unless someone can offer something better for establishing the result he wishes his code and text might establish, his work thus is supported; pretend that his code is biologically plausible for things it can't possibly be considered to approach in any biologically plausible manner; and project every fault he has onto his interlocutors.

   The origin of intelligence may be Gary's favorite topic, but I think it's far less likely that anyone else is going to have "listening to Gary go on about the origin of intelligence" be one of their favorite things. In order to bypass evolutionary hypotheses, it looks to me that Gary seeks to establish intelligent action at logically prior, lower levels, those of molecules and cells. In my experience, any data that does not accord with this idee fixe' is relentlessly rejected or disputed by Gary. Gary certainly has shown no compunction in dismissing relevant work on the evolution of intelligence.

   Do be careful, though; Gary did note that he consulted with a Discovery Institute lawyer [Casey Luskin] prior to engaging the "After the Bar Closes" forum to figure out when to sue someone in online discussion. See http://tinyurl.com/pnjnj5x....pnjnj5x

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       Gary Gaulin Wesley Elsberry • 7 hours ago

       Hi again Wesley. Hopefully you're done giving your forum shameless plugs. Yes I mentioned additional information being in this thread in the Smithsonian Institution thread but that was your fault for making me need to link here after that. I now need a direct link back, for readers to see what you're trying to talk about:

       http://www.smithsonianmag.com/...

       For "interlocutors" the best conspiracy theory I can come up with is Rev Theory as per KCFS forum lore the black hole sun producing (& toes in the sand) "Lucky Lady" is stealthy Kathy Martin whose talent for giving the press exactly what they wanted caused legendary hoopla that got folks talking science now here we are with the angel story being continued, but I don't know where. It's as though the video is tempting to rev up some theory by leaving a key around for anyone to try out. It must make no sense to you but Stephanie might still get it:

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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           Wesley Elsberry Gary Gaulin • 22 minutes ago

           I appreciate Gary following up to make clear to everyone that my statements are right on the money. Gary's response to my description of his screed as incoherent word salad is, predictably, more incoherent word salad.

           And even where Gary manages to make brief contact with coherency, his accusation that I am "spamming", he confirms my statement:

           "and project every fault [Gary] has onto his interlocutors."

           It's particularly amusing as Gary's initial forays both here and at the Smithsonian site immediately link to the PDF of his screed. Here, Gary seemed particularly strained in coming up with an excuse to put in his link. It does demonstrate that Gary's accusations about others are the clearest window into his own soul.

           For myself, I'm not particular about what archive of interaction informs the reader. If Gary has over 3000 posts at some other site, he need merely let me know where that might be, and I'll certainly add it as a resource for those who are new to Gary's ... creative ... approach to communication.


PotW
Quote For "interlocutors" the best conspiracy theory I can come up with is Rev Theory as per KCFS forum lore the black hole sun producing (& toes in the sand) "Lucky Lady" is stealthy Kathy Martin whose talent for giving the press exactly what they wanted caused legendary hoopla that got folks talking science now here we are with the angel story being continued, but I don't know where.
Sentence of the week.

I'm still very ambivalent about participating in this thread.  By doing so, I'm helping to deprive a street corner of its loony.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 17:34
Post by stevestory
i meant mg. A 500 ml Xanax would cost more than $10, that's for sure.....
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 16:23
Post by NoName
I'd suggest that Gary is in need of drugs, but evidence suggests that he's overstocked and over consuming.
Perhaps a drying out period would help.
Gods forbid this is his base state!
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 16:21
Post by fnxtr
Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2014,09:09) Quote I was then able to stay focused on the computer models and other things that makes the theory happen and went to Panda's Thumb After the Bar Closes forum Wesley nervously rules, which now has 365 pages of science mayhem they have to do something about.

Wes, if you need help with all the anxiety Gary has caused you, I can get you 500 ml Xanax tabs for $10 a piece, No Questions Asked....
Riiight. In the same way I have to "do something about" what's in our cat's litter box.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-06-03 16:09
Post by stevestory
Quote I was then able to stay focused on the computer models and other things that makes the theory happen and went to Panda's Thumb After the Bar Closes forum Wesley nervously rules, which now has 365 pages of science mayhem they have to do something about.

Wes, if you need help with all the anxiety Gary has caused you, I can get you 500 ml Xanax tabs for $10 a piece, No Questions Asked....
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