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Jason Spaceman Posts: 163 Joined: Nov. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,21:08    Quote DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist preacher who has surged in Iowa with evangelical Christian support, bristled Tuesday when asked if creationism should be taught in public schools. Huckabee — who raised his hand at a debate last May when asked which candidates disbelieved the theory of evolution — asked this time why there is such a fascination with his beliefs. "I believe God created the heavens and the Earth," he said at a news conference with Iowa pastors who murmured, "Amen." "I wasn't there when he did it, so how he did it, I don't know," Huckabee said. But he expressed frustration that he is asked about it so often, arguing with the questioner that it ultimately doesn't matter what his personal views are.. . . . . .Huckabee, at a dinner in Des Moines, told reporters that the theory of intelligent design, whose proponents believe an intelligent cause is the best way to explain some complex and orderly features of the universe, should be taught in schools as one of many viewpoints. "I don't think schools ought to indoctrinate kids to believe one thing or another," he said. Read it here.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,21:33    Iowa is getting hot, hot, hawt!!! perhaps it is because of INTERSTATE 35oneoneoneoneoneone!!!oneone -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

ERV Posts: 329 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,21:55    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 04 2007,21:33) Iowa is getting hot, hot, hawt!!! perhaps it is because of INTERSTATE 35oneoneoneoneoneone!!!oneone Iz tru. I35 gos thru OKC, Norman, and Dallas. Crazy hiway.

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,21:58    Quote (ERV @ Dec. 04 2007,21:55) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 04 2007,21:33) Iowa is getting hot, hot, hawt!!! perhaps it is because of INTERSTATE 35oneoneoneoneoneone!!!oneone Iz tru. I35 gos thru OKC, Norman, and Dallas. Crazy hiway. There's an old joke we say here in South Texas... Q: What's the best thing to ever come out of Dallas? A: I-35 South. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

skeptic Posts: 1163 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,16:19    I was wondering how long it would take for this to show up here, lol. I don't think Huckabee realizes that he just became the poster child for both ID and anti-ID at the same time.

The Wayward Hammer Posts: 64 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,21:05    All of Huckabee's Chuck Norris mojo lost with one stupid comment. Evolution is only what Chuck Norris allows to live...

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,10:54    On PT I read a comment that GG's attorneys (pro bono)are also working for Huckabee's campaign.  YOU connect the dots. -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,11:12    Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 06 2007,11:54) YOU connect the dots. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,11:22    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 06 2007,11:12) Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 06 2007,11:54) YOU connect the dots. Sorry, this is not going to work.  There is NO way that Huckabee is gonna be able to connect those dots. MAYBE this would work for him -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,12:30    Huckabee being an IDIot may be the least of our worries. Read this scary shit Huckabee and other Christians worked hard to free a convicted rapist.  Huckabee pressured the prison board to get him released from prison.  The dude not only raped but murdered a woman shortly thereafter. Huckabee's love affair with creationism isn't what scares me... -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

bystander Posts: 301 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,13:58    Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 07 2007,03:54) On PT I read a comment that GG's attorneys (pro bono)are also working for Huckabee's campaign.  YOU connect the dots. That explains a lot. When I first saw the article I was wondering whether his advisors have been slapping him around the head for those comments. While people like Ftk might cheer he will instantly lose all the people in the middle who have heard of Dover. These are the people that the Republicans are going to have to win over in the election. You can be sure that his rivals will start to point out the losses in every state that has tried to teach a variant of ID in the schools

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2007,18:54    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 06 2007,12:12) Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 06 2007,11:54) YOU connect the dots. LOL. In my 5500 posts here, over 3 years, I'd say, in all honesty, maybe there were 20 which contributed some real wit or cleverness. I like to think the fake AFDave data one you mention was one of them.

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2007,19:13    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2007,19:54) LOL. In my 5500 posts here, over 3 years, I'd say, in all honesty, maybe there were 20 which contributed some real wit or cleverness. I like to think the fake AFDave data one you mention was one of them. Steve, if you never, ever, EVAH, contribute anything else, this one image was worth the price of admission. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,18:53    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 14 2007,18:13) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2007,19:54) LOL. In my 5500 posts here, over 3 years, I'd say, in all honesty, maybe there were 20 which contributed some real wit or cleverness. I like to think the fake AFDave data one you mention was one of them. Steve, if you never, ever, EVAH, contribute anything else, this one image was worth the price of admission. That post was one of the first things I ever saw here. "President Huckabee." Just say it out loud, people. While keeping your face straight. If it happens, four years of not needing to employ comedy writers in Hollywood, I swear. Another reason he's dangerous. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

skeptic Posts: 1163 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,19:43    he's dangerous because he's endangers the jobs of comedy writers in Hollywood?  Boy what's that say about the quality of comedy writers? lol Really, you guys might be jumping at ghosts.  Huckabee's not dangerous in the least bit.  He's a lot of things but dangerous isn't one of them.  You guys might want to focus your energy elsewhere because there's only one scenario in which he becomes President and it's looking more and more like a long shot.

Jim_Wynne Posts: 1208 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,19:58    Quote (skeptic @ Dec. 16 2007,19:43) he's dangerous because he's endangers the jobs of comedy writers in Hollywood?  Boy what's that say about the quality of comedy writers? lol Really, you guys might be jumping at ghosts.  Huckabee's not dangerous in the least bit.  He's a lot of things but dangerous isn't one of them.  You guys might want to focus your energy elsewhere because there's only one scenario in which he becomes President and it's looking more and more like a long shot. Huckabee not dangerous? Jumping at ghosts? (HT to PZ) -------------- Evolution is not about laws but about randomness on happanchance.--Robert Byers, at PT

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,20:25    As it stands, any republican would lose: http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm I'd vote for Davetard, though. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,22:27    Quote (skeptic @ Dec. 16 2007,19:43) he's dangerous because he's endangers the jobs of comedy writers in Hollywood?  Boy what's that say about the quality of comedy writers? lol Really, you guys might be jumping at ghosts.  Huckabee's not dangerous in the least bit.  He's a lot of things but dangerous isn't one of them.  You guys might want to focus your energy elsewhere because there's only one scenario in which he becomes President and it's looking more and more like a long shot. Skeptic you'e missing the whole point.  the man is absurd, it's free comedy. -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2007,23:45    So I'm cruising around in between barfing rounds, and I wind up looking at an image of the Spanish Inquisition. Is it just me, or does the Inquisitor on the left look an awful lot like Huckabee? Fear not, I use my PaintShop skilz only for good. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

skeptic Posts: 1163 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,12:34    free comedy is not the same as good comedy and I see nothing really that funny

Bob O'H Posts: 2561 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,12:41    Is it just me, or does Huckerbee look a little bit too much like Peter Mandelson? Bob -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,12:54    Huckabee has no buisness being in charge of the television remote, let alone something important. The fact that so many people take that whack job Theocrat even remotely seriously speaks volumes about the massive amount of damage fundies have done and continue to do to this Republic. While that isn't funny in the least, ridicule and marginalization of Mental Mike and his ilk is one useful tool in the effort to get them as far from the seat of power as humanly possible. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,12:58    (P.S. I think I just channeled Lenny Flank.) -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,14:15    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 17 2007,12:58) (P.S. I think I just channeled Lenny Flank.) " I've said it before, and I'll say it again.  They just can't shut up about Jesus." OMFg( not the christian god)!  I am channelling Lenny too... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

skeptic Posts: 1163 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,16:33    apparently Lou has never been to Arkansas.

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,17:15    Quote (skeptic @ Dec. 17 2007,16:33) apparently Lou has never been to Arkansas. I think the phrase "daddy says I french kiss better than anyone" originated in Arkansas... -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,17:36    Great....another 4 years of half-assed decisions made for this country based on unfounded religious beliefs and lies. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

Henry J Posts: 5760 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,17:50    Quote (P.S. I think I just channeled Lenny Flank.) I didn't see anything about them shooting themselves in the foot on this thread. Henry

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,20:08    good article in the NYT magazine about Huckabee. The short version: despite his genial appearance he's basically Jerry Falwell.

Lou FCD Posts: 5452 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,20:56    Quote (skeptic @ Dec. 17 2007,17:33) apparently Lou has never been to Arkansas. Actually I have.  I didn't lose anything there, however. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2007,16:31    Interesting article about Huckabee's son in the paper today.  Normally I ignore the antics of a candidate's offspring but this is too weird. Seems young Huckabee was a counselor at a boy scout camp and got fired when he was caught torturing and hanging (to death) a stray dog.  The article said Huckabee Sr used his influence to keep the event quiet, jr was not charged with any crime. It's one thing to be a youngster and smoke pot, drive too fast, make farty videos, etc.  But torturing and hanging a dog?  We're not talking about dog fighting, which is sick in it's own right, we're talking about torturing a dog for fun. Weird. EDIT - because I can and FTK can't. Here is the Newsweeek article And here is the perp and possible 1st son.... Edit yet again (I am having way too much fun) Here are a few Miek Huckabee quotes you might enjoy: Quote Abortion, environmentalism, AIDS, pornography, drug abuse, and homosexual activism have fragmented and polarized our communities. AIDS and environmentalism have fragmented and polarized our communities?  Well that's it, I've had it.  I'll support anyone who will outlaw AIDS and environmentalism. Here is another gem: Quote It is now difficult to keep track of the vast array of publicly endorsed and institutionally supported aberrations — from homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia. I don't know about you, gentle reader, but I have never condoned "institutionally supported" necrophilia.  Never!  We should join Huckabee and help put an end to institutionally supported necrophilia! -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

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