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Date: 2007/09/03 17:31:20, Link
Author: ERV
Okay, I cant take it anymore-- I have to register to vent here :P

So, SAL isnt going to post anymore, he just passes the torch to Casey.  Casey is too dumb to notice that his insults arent insults:

1-- Yeah, I hate Falwell.  I grew up in a small town, ALL of my gay friends admitted to me at one point or another that they were suicidal.... because of Falwells/Haggards/etc etc culture of hate.  But how many kids dont have someone safe to talk to?  How many gay kids blow their face off, strangle themselves, poison themselves, because of True Christian hate?  Damn straight, the happiest day of my life would be the day that whole clan drove off a cliff.

2-- So... Its 'good' that missionaries lie to people?  A lie that causes a slow painful death?  A lie that kills children?  Casey Luskin thinks its okay to tell people condoms dont prevent HIV transmission?

May they never stop digging :)

Date: 2007/09/04 18:31:45, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 04 2007,17:20)
Picture this:-
wMAD sitting by the phone waiting for 'Baylor colleague' Robert Marks to call. Eventually the wait is too much, Bill walks across the room pours himself a stiff single malt milk drink then grabs the phone and speed dials.

You all might like a gif I made...

Date: 2007/09/04 19:45:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 04 2007,18:43)
OT: Whence originated the "!!!11!!1111!!" meme?  And why does it amuse?

;) Leetspeak, Overexclamation!!11!one!11!!

Date: 2007/09/07 17:41:42, Link
Author: ERV
Billy will be at my Uni Sep. 17.

Just so you all know.


Date: 2007/09/07 21:05:28, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 07 2007,18:45)
People in Oklahoma who have 'never heard the gospel'? ? ?

Nononono-- Theyve HEARD it.  They just havent been 'penetrated' by the gospel yet.

In our effort to penetrate the university campus with the gospel...

At least theyre honest.

Date: 2007/09/13 22:02:05, Link
Author: ERV
I officially get more hits from you guys than UD.  A message board gets more hits than THE Intelligent Design blog.



Date: 2007/09/18 00:24:17, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 17 2007,21:19)
Word is that Dembski said, in the OU question/answer session, that he doesn't believe in the descent of man from other primates.

More street theater?

Ive got it on tape.


He also said he wasnt aware of the behavior directed towards me on UD and my blog... yet he knew my handle was 'ERV'... HMMMMM.

He also about shit a brick when I mentioned maybe he didnt notice what was going on at his blog at the time because he was busy composing fake letters from the President of Baylor.  His eyes got as big as saucers.  He was visually stunned by this, and didnt deny it.  Audience cracked up. :P

Date: 2007/09/18 00:47:37, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 18 2007,00:29)
Quote (ERV @ Sep. 18 2007,00:24)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 17 2007,21:19)
Word is that Dembski said, in the OU question/answer session, that he doesn't believe in the descent of man from other primates.

More street theater?

Ive got it on tape.


He also said he wasnt aware of the behavior directed towards me on UD and my blog... yet he knew my handle was 'ERV'... HMMMMM.

He also about shit a brick when I mentioned maybe he didnt notice what was going on at his blog at the time because he was busy composing fake letters from the President of Baylor.  His eyes got as big as saucers.  He was visually stunned by this, and didnt deny it.  Audience cracked up. :P

Did you get this gem on tape?

Yup :)

Though the audience laughing overtakes part of Dembskis reply (along the lines of 'thats another topic').

He did a very poor job of defending the behavior of UD goons.  :)

Date: 2007/09/20 23:12:41, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (hooligans @ Sep. 20 2007,21:50)
I'm getting impatient!!! Where is the transcript of Dembski at OU? I can't wait to read or hear the event. I want to laugh at him. He is sooooooo stoooooopid. I wish I was there!

Im sorry :( We're having file transfer issues (it would have been easier to mail my audio friend my iPod, I think), but Im pretty sure it will be up this weekend!

Date: 2007/10/09 21:39:49, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 09 2007,21:09)
That's a strikingly vague comment. Can you clarify this with some numbers, mister Telic Thinker? Or just this kind of hand waving?

I know, I totally dont get their point.

"Aspartic acid cant be phosphorylated, therefore Creationism is true.  Fitness landscapes."


Date: 2007/10/12 06:51:11, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2007,21:52)
And so the c*nsorship begins:

Nononono 'author' was me!  I tried to put a hotlink to my blog, but Amazon doesnt let you do that, so I had to put the short version :)

But just wait-- He will close em ;)

Date: 2007/10/15 18:06:22, Link
Author: ERV
Ugh had a killer test today, but I finally have a little time to work on my response to Behe.

Working Title: "Michael Behe: Liar, Lunatic, or LiLo?"

Date: 2007/10/19 16:12:10, Link
Author: ERV
Contrary to the observations of drive-by Creationists, Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.

I emailed Cristian Apetrei and told him Behe was misrepresenting his work.  I hope he responds :)

Oh dont act so surprised-- Im a little sister, for petes sake.

Date: 2007/10/27 22:17:26, Link
Author: ERV
Grandma Tard linked to me on one of her 5,000 blogs!!!


I feel so blessed!

Date: 2007/11/02 21:47:23, Link
Author: ERV
Funny insider info--

Okay, the HIV research world is cut-throat.  You do NOT talk about your research until its already on its way to publication land, as competition is thick and fierce.

One of the PIs I emailed for more info on Vpu was just wonderful-- very nice, very helpful, very prompt replies.  But even though Im just a random grad student in the middle of nowhere, he kept this ace up his sleeve:
Modulation of the severe CD4(+) T-cell loss caused by a pathogenic simian-human immunodeficiency virus by replacement of the subtype B vpu with the vpu from a subtype C HIV-1 clinical isolate.

Quick translation-- those 'pathetic' changes in Vpu?  Yeah, those pathetic changes alone can drastically alter disease progression.  Its a sweet paper, and it references any paper you could want to read on the sequence, structure, biological, and clinical evolution of Vpu accumulated thus far.

ROFL!  Poor Behe.  Im gonna have my 'reply' up to him sometime this weekend-- Its an off weekend for tests, so Im actually going to have time to sit down and figure out a way to turn "Wow.  Youre an asshat." into a nice post...

Date: 2007/11/07 16:46:35, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (bystander @ Nov. 06 2007,22:52)
It still boils down to
Behe: X and there are no studies contradicting this
Others: What about all of these studies?
Behe: Insignificant
Others: They are not insignificant because Y and Z.
Behe: Gratuitous Insults
Others: Wanker

Can I steal that?  I will reference you!

Date: 2007/11/12 14:20:17, Link
Author: ERV

OMG!  Behe cannot top this!  He CANNOT top this!

Date: 2007/11/12 18:06:25, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (bystander @ Nov. 12 2007,17:30)
come on give the guy a break. It's not easy to try and find quotes to mine when you haven't read the primary literature. He might sneak some science in around post four or five. Maybe he should get the guys at UD to help, or Lee Merrill at IIDB seems to be doing well *snicker*

Lee defends Behe better then Behe defends Behe.

Date: 2007/11/14 10:38:01, Link
Author: ERV
It appears that DIs 'problem' with PBS is that PBS wouldnt let them use PBS's footage for propaganda pieces or money.

DI agrees that any use of such recordings will be limited to DI's commenting upon or reviewing the NOVA program or other related internal DI uses, and shall not be used for purposes unrelated to commenting upon the specific NOVA program, such as but not limited to, fundraising, lobbying, general advocacy, or in any publicly exhibited media.

That was unacceptable to DI.

Date: 2007/11/15 18:29:49, Link
Author: ERV
Original essay: 2 weeks
Harassment from UD goons: 4 days
Confronting Dembski: 5 minutes

Getting Behe to admit he f*cked up: 105 days

Yes, I’m perfectly willing to concede that this does appear to be the development of a new viral protein-viral protein binding site, one which I overlooked when writing about HIV.

Date: 2007/11/20 15:03:54, Link
Author: ERV
While we would all like Harvard to crush DI, I believe they are sending them a 'cease and desist' letter.  While this is not 'crushing', it means that the rest of us should keep our eyes out for this animation at any future presentation.  If they use it, email me or someone at PT, and we will get it to the proper authorities.

Date: 2007/11/21 07:32:17, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.


I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski?  Isnt he a 'computer' guy?  Has anyone heard his voice?

Date: 2007/11/21 15:12:29, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 21 2007,12:15)
Quote (ERV @ Nov. 21 2007,07:32)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.


I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski?  Isnt he a 'computer' guy?  Has anyone heard his voice?

He has a rather high-pitched voice and speaks with a slight lisp.  Not that that's wrong....

Are you being silly, or are you serious. or are you confused with Luskin?  We thought it was Luskin at first, but I found a podcast with him, and it wasnt.

Have you heard the DIs narration?  Do you think it might be Dave??

Date: 2007/11/26 16:00:45, Link
Author: ERV



Date: 2007/11/28 07:05:35, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 28 2007,05:55)
The DI hangs out Dr Dr Dr Dembski to dry
Discovery Institute played no role whatever in the use, alteration, or dissemination of any animation clip from Harvard that our esteemed colleague may have included in some of his lectures. When we first learned several weeks ago that someone had concerns about Dr. Dembski’s occasional use of this particular clip, we contacted Dr. Dembski directly, and he told us that he had stopped using the material as soon as these concerns had been raised with him.

OMFG you guys!! Dembski has known for MONTHS that he was in trouble for this..... and he told no one at the DI???

We're trying to hunt down video of other fellows using it... there have been reports.... hmmmm LOL!!

Date: 2007/11/28 10:04:20, Link
Author: ERV
[quote=J-Dog,Nov. 27 2007,14:35]  
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 27 2007,13:57)
I am thinking that Dembski's Seminary, that is currently paying his bills, has finally discovered what a disingenuous little lying sordid prick he is, and will give him his walking papers.

No, sorry :(  But I will say that XVIVO pres is pissed, and SWBaptist is doing their own investigation.

Hence the notpology.

Date: 2007/11/28 10:13:41, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2007/11/28 15:24:26, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (someotherguy @ Nov. 28 2007,11:02)
So, would I be correct in assuming that somebody actually is trying to figure out who added the voice-over to the video?  The version that Dembski claimed he found on the "internet" hasn't actually been found by anybody else, has it?

'We' have been looking for it for two months straight.

No one on the planet has mentioned the manipulated animation, on the internet, except for summaries of talks given my DI fellows.  Yes, I mean 'fellows' and not 'Dembski.'

Its all a coincidence, Im sure.

Date: 2007/11/28 20:45:38, Link
Author: ERV
Are you all serious?  It cant be.  It cant.  The animation voice is so stereotypical homosexual male.

It cant be him.

...........Can it?

Date: 2007/11/30 10:59:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 30 2007,07:59)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 30 2007,05:23)
Woo-hooo!  It's Friday today!  I can't wait to see this week's Friday Dembski Meltdown over at UD.  Especially with the way we started the week.

C'mon Bill, wake up and give it too use!

I second the motion.

Creationists dont wake up before 1 in the afternoon.  What else do they have to do all day?  'Work'?

Date: 2007/12/01 09:41:24, Link
Author: ERV
Im completely unconnected to Wes's Friday Meltdown (I think?).  And, I cannot say what SWBaptist is thinking.  However, I would not be surprised if djmullen's prediction happens sometime soon, but probably not now-- While nothing breaks up Good Christian Brothers like $$$, I dont think they would do it at Christmas.  If its going to happen, I bet its not for a few months.

*shrug* Or nothing might happen.  Im just saying, I wouldnt be surprised if SWB did cut him loose.

Date: 2007/12/01 12:02:16, Link
Author: ERV
William Dembski-- One Tard to Rule them All.

Date: 2007/12/01 12:17:08, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Dec. 01 2007,12:10)
Quote (ERV @ Dec. 01 2007,13:02)
William Dembski-- One Tard to Rule them All.

Great minds think alike.

LOL!!  Im adding that!

Date: 2007/12/02 21:29:25, Link
Author: ERV
Behe is going to be furious when he hears what West has been saying!!  "Civil discourse!  Civil discourse!"

I bet that will be Behes next Amazon blog post, chastising West for being uncivil.

You just watch.



Date: 2007/12/03 10:35:59, Link
Author: ERV
1.  'People connected with ID' (ie the DI) contacted Harvard and asked to use 'stills of the animation for a publication'.  Harvard told them to piss off.  So Dembski and other DI fellows thought they could get away with using it at public presentations where no one would have proof of what they were doing (unlike print media).  Harvard knew they were using their animation, but had no proof.  I made sure they got that proof.

2.  'Golden Compass' isnt available on DVD yet either.  That doesnt give me the right to download an altered bootlegged copy and present it as my work at a presentation I got paid up to $10K to present.

3.  When you get paid, it is no longer 'educational purposes.'

4.  Previously, Harvard/XVIVO had no problem with YouTube versions of their animation.  Now they know Creationists are perverting their works and now the animation will only be available on their website.

5.  Youre a tard.  Read my goddamn blog before you mouth off.

Date: 2007/12/03 16:41:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 03 2007,11:25)
I'm not sure I should believe that - your word only here.  I find it hard to believe that the "DI" contacted Harvard requesting to use that animation,  were turned down flat, and then turned around and used it anyway.  Dembski said *he* was the one who contacted Harvard and although he is with the DI, that doesn't mean the all those damned DI fellows sat down one day and concocted this little ruse in a secret meeting in order to steal Harvard’s work.  Have you found anyone else from the DI using this animation yet??

1a-- Its Harvards word in private emails that Im not sharing with you.  Sorry.
1b-- Yup.  Ive got names.  Just a matter of finding the videos just so Harvard can send them cease and desist letters too.

Just as you had no right (or permission) to tape Dembski's lecture.  If he was getting paid $10K, I think it makes it all the more devious that you and your friends took it upon yourselves to tape the whole thing, post it, and urge the public to look for anything that might damn him.

2a-- I didnt tape the lecture.  Trinity Baptist, the people who paid Dembski did.  The camera was prominently displayed on the balcony, if Dembski didnt want it recorded. *shrug* Dembski can take it up with Trinity.

Well, it was for educational purposes, obviously.  If there is a stipulation about getting paid, then so be it.  But, in the same light, since he was making money off his lecture AGAIN, you had no right to tape it without permission.  And, as the DI has stated, evolutionists have downloaded Icons of Evolution online in order to denounce it—the entire video.  People youtube other chunks of their films as well.   God only knows how much crap like that they have to put up with behind the scenes.  But, the difference is that they don't have an *angry* ballistic cheerleader on a witch hunt looking for any tiny thing she can possibly find to make a stink about publicly.   They have bigger fish to fry.

3a-- Tard, take 30 seconds to Google 'Educational Purposes' and 'copyright'.  Also, see 2a.

Of course they didn't.  Like I said before, when anyone points out the obvious massive complexity that is highly unlikely to have resulted from a big bang, primordial soup, and a lot of luck, we've got to shut down everything and erase those type of thoughts from the public mind.  God forbid we acknowledge that the "illusion" of design might actually BE the result of design.  We cannot possibly follow that evidence where it leads, neither can we EVER allow a divine foot in the door.

4a-- If the animation showed such glorious design... why didnt Dembski use the real animation and narration?

Quote might want to start taking something for that all that anger and hatred, or it may become a health issue.

5a-- Im the happiest person on the planet.  I have a job that pays for a great apartment, health care, food, a car, an opportunity at an education billions of people cant even dream of, Im in a safe environment, a great puppy, great family, a tall blond boyfriend...  You are just a tard.

Date: 2007/12/03 18:12:31, Link
Author: ERV
Believe it or not, 'tard' was already part of my childhood lexicon, in essentially the same form!  Our version wasnt specific to Creationists, but it was pretty easy to pick up the local AtBC lingo.


Date: 2007/12/03 18:28:43, Link
Author: ERV
Actually I had NO idea it was an acronym!  Well, nevermind then, Im just operating off of my own personal definition of a word you all happen to also use :P

Tard for one.


This comparison is eerie:

Date: 2007/12/03 22:41:37, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Dec. 03 2007,20:31)

The word is PILUS. The plural is PILI.

The king of the tards reveals his deep ignorance of even the terminology of biology once again.

I dont understand... why didnt Dembski refer his readers to the video of the Q&A for them to see the explanation from Klebba himself?

I dont understand...

Date: 2007/12/04 21:55:11, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 04 2007,21:33)
Iowa is getting hot, hot, hawt!!!

perhaps it is because of INTERSTATE 35oneoneoneoneoneone!!!oneone

Iz tru.

I35 gos thru OKC, Norman, and Dallas.

Crazy hiway.

Date: 2007/12/05 18:18:03, Link
Author: ERV
Dude, John Kwok is seriously one of the funniest mo-fos I have ever met on the internet.  The emails he gets from Dembski... omg...

Go vote up his review, if youve bought something from Amazon :)

Date: 2007/12/05 19:31:25, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 05 2007,19:00)
Quote (ERV @ Dec. 05 2007,18:18)
Dude, John Kwok is seriously one of the funniest mo-fos I have ever met on the internet.  

I'll say this about Kwok, he can certainly turn a phrase.  The description of ID as creationism in a cheap tuxedo used to be my favorite description. It has now been replaced with John's tagging ID as a "narrow, tormented version of a Christian origin myth."

The emails he gets from Dembski... omg...


Official emails are being held hostage, just in case Dembski decides to publish Johns emails on his blog-- But John sent me an official press release that I could post.  If you know John, or read a few of his reviews and get his humor, this is the funniest shit ever.  But the main thing is, Dembski boasted (even after this Texas Board of Education stuff) that he had principals in TX that refused to let students learn evolution.  Didnt name any names, of course, and he could be lying.

Former paleobiologist - and frequent contributor - John Kwok has shared with me some private e-mail correspondence that he received from one William Dembski. When John observed that the current principal of his high school alma mater, New York City's prestigious Stuyvesant High School, pledged to a gathering of its alumni back in 2005 (around the time of the Dover, PA trial) that Intelligent Design wouldn't be taught at all at Stuyvesant as long as he served as its principal, Dembski replied by noting that he had school principals in Texas who wouldn't teach contemporary evolutionary theory, but instead, Intelligent Design.

John wrote back, noting that Stuyvesant's principal teaches one class of senior-level physics to entering freshman (Stuyvesant High School is regarded by many as America's premier high school devoted to the sciences, mathematics and engineering; among its many distinguished alumni are four Nobel Prize-winning scientists and one economist.). Among John's many reviews are quite a few critical of Intelligent Design and other flavors of creationism, most notably, his harsh - but accurate - review of Michael Behe's "The Edge of Evolution" that's entitled, "The Abyss of Reason: The Limits of Michael Behe's Scientific Thinking".

Johns humor is like Steven Wrights.  Once you 'get it', its painfully funny.

Date: 2007/12/06 06:46:01, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 06 2007,03:20)
Quote (djmullen @ Dec. 06 2007,01:53)
Kwok banninated - from!

Check the Amazon review page and you'll find that Kwok's review is gone.  The graph now shows 9 five star reviews and zero other reviews.  Dembski gloats here.  See comments #13, 14 and 15.  If anybody kept a copy of Kwok's review, please post it here.

Dembski is strongly implying that Kwok reviewed a book that he hasn't read.  That is a charge which probably requires a response.  After all, we aren't IDers, who only reads abstracts of science papers.

Which is the *exact* response we (John, me others) got after negatively reviewing 'Edge'.

Never mind the ID song and dance hasnt changed in 10 years...

Edited to add-- Amazon took down Johns 'Edge' review after UD trolls pooped their diapers over it, but Amazon put it back up.  Gawd Dembski is a petty litte twirp "PEOPLE DIDNT LIKE MEH BOOKS?!?! MOOOOOMIEEEEEEEEEE SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!"

Date: 2007/12/06 07:17:54, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (factician @ Dec. 06 2007,07:07)
Quote (ERV @ Dec. 06 2007,06:46)
Edited to add-- Amazon took down Johns 'Edge' review after UD trolls pooped their diapers over it, but Amazon put it back up.

Looks like it's still gone, to me...

Date: 2007/12/06 13:34:39, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ptaylor @ Dec. 06 2007,13:12)
I didn't save any of the 30+ comments, although apparently the good Dr Dr can provide those.
Later: Hmmm - what does this 'Edit' button do?

Thank you, Ptaylor!

hehehe! Guess the theme of my post tonight:

Date: 2007/12/06 14:29:11, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Dec. 06 2007,14:21)
I have to say, the Kwok review is pretty crappy, reading more like an editorial. And I would have to agree with Dembski that you don't get a good feeling that Kwok actually read the book, given the paucity of specificity in his review. Having been on the receiving side of an Amazon reviewer who obviously didn't read my book (but who, to his credit, later withdrew it, and we became internet friends of a sort) I can sympathize.

Im sorry, Im new here-- Is Dave the male FtK?

Hey, Dave, guess who wrote this 'review' of a book he didnt read 4 years ago?

Date: 2007/12/06 19:20:03, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Dec. 06 2007,14:42)

Before you attack me you should know that I have been banned by Dembski twice on two different venues! Why, the "banned" battle campaign patch displayed around here isn't fit to be sewn on my fatigues!

You may very well be a nice normal chap, but as of now, I only know you as the guy that left a comment on my blog dripping with coy, fake indignation.  So I shall continue to not like you much until you win me back, and you are more than welcome not to like me as well.

I also dont particularly care whether youve been banned.  I dont see the logic in 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend.'

Back to the thread-- I posted my bit about Dembskis adventures:

Date: 2007/12/06 22:23:06, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Dec. 06 2007,21:50)
Although Peter Irons said the exact same thing I did in a post I had on The Design of Life, namely that it is a vanity publication, I would say his review is even worse than Kwok's. I look foward to some evolutionary biologists actually reading the book and penning a proper stone-cold, substantive review.

Well, its 'Pandas and People Part II'.  Its the 'same' damn book with a different cover and two different 'authors'.  There is going to be nothing in that book we havent seen over and over and over and over and some retarded Christian is going to see those GLOWING reviews and say "HEY! This should be part of OUR curriculum!" and then we get another DOVER..

Do you now understand Kwoks review?  Do you understand why bringing up Dover and high schools is important?  Do you see why Dembski spasmed at Kowks review?  Do you even undertand that reading another ID book on the same damn shit is pointless?

Whats the revelation?  Whats the new idea in 'Design' that none of us have seen before?  We could all recite chapters of 'Design' right now, without ever reading a damn page.

"Aw, but usa hav ta read it frst r els u cant lev an AMAZON review."


Date: 2007/12/07 08:03:58, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Dec. 07 2007,06:05)
Do you understand it is not professional to leave a review of a book you haven’t read? Do you understand that because Dembski has done it, it doesn’t justify returning the favor? Do you understand that such transparent efforts serve no function other than preaching to the choir? Do you understand that to someone trying to be objective (as I try to be) the Kwok and Irons “reviews” are as bad and as useless as reviews from DI staff? Do you understand why Wes Elsberry is not doing it, but patiently waiting for a copy? Do you understand how a more useful approach would be to post about how FTE is not following normal practices when it comes to providing review copies?

If thats the 'best' youve got, Im going to continue not liking you.  Youre nitpicking on a completely irrelevant point and proclaiming its a damning argument.

"Iz nut perfessionle."

Cause Kwok is a professional book reviewer hired by the New York Times.  Cause is where the 'hard hitters' in literature and musical review post their opinions.  Its important Kwok was totally 'professional', or else Amazon would take his review down.

There was nothing in Kwoks review that violated Amazons review policy even if he didnt read 'Design'.

And your plea to Wes is a non-argument.  Wes is well-known in the E/C arena, and it is very important for him to be 'professional'.  He's probably going to put it on PT as well, so it is important his review is 'professional'.  But Wes probably isnt going to write how I write either, because I dont write 'professionally' and had to alter my writing style significantly for my Behe review.  But you know what?  Even if Dembski says something stupid that tweaks Wes out and Wes writes an expletive filled tirade, Im not going to dismiss everything he says with "Wes iz unprefestional."  Ugh.

Date: 2007/12/07 08:25:46, Link
Author: ERV
Fine.  Lets read Creationist crap over and over.  Fine.  Lets still be talking about the immune system and 'junk DNA' and transitional fossils in 10, 20, 50 years.  Sounds like a barrel of fun.

Amazon still had no reason to pull Kwoks review, Dembski still was in no position to throw a tantrum.

Date: 2007/12/07 15:21:13, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Dec. 07 2007,12:43)
In the disappeared comment thread Kwok was repeatedly asked where he got the copy he reviewed. In one early reply he said that he got it "from the library". In a later reply he said that he got it "from the library of a personal friend". In all cases he refused to quote anything from the book because he had "returned it to the library".

The post is back up, and Ive gotten to read the comments, and I agree-- It doesnt look like Kwok read it.  I would be happier with him if he had said "No, Ive wasted enough of my life reading that shit, thank you." than the 'library' thing.  Its kinda lame, and Im going to encourage him to apologize if he didnt.  Creationists lie and never back down-- Humans lie and apologize.

However, Im going to ask Ewert to borrow his review copy (why not?  Ewert wrote a review, and its out of stock).

Date: 2007/12/07 17:00:35, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Dec. 07 2007,15:57)

OK I am going to post this gently—and with the peace offering that I really like your blog. But I want to ask a legitimate question. Based on your last post I went back and read the comments on Kwok’s review. Here is my question—and maybe others who know Kwok (J-Dog?) will also answer—is he (Kwok) being serious in his replies? Or is he just agitating for effect? Because if all that talk about litigation and famous alumnae from his famous high school is “real” – well then this dude is one strange motorscooter.

Honestly?  I dont know.

When I think hes being serious, I think he can be a bit... silly... sometimes.

When I think he is joking, Im in pain from laughing.

I dont know him in person, so I really, really dont know.

Date: 2007/12/10 08:59:44, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (djmullen @ Dec. 10 2007,00:53)
In the meantime, medical doctors should prescribe multiple antibiotics for all infections, since this will decrease the likelihood that infectious agents can develop resistance through stochastic processes.
Strangely, materialist non-ID medical science is doing something like that now, only with AIDS medications.  They're hitting people with a cocktail of two or three different AIDS medications at once because a virus is much much more likely to snuffit than to become immune to all three of them at once.  

Curiously, the materialist scientists who thought of this tactic apparently had no need of ID theory.  Typical liberal tactic - putting curing the patient before defending the theory.

Or seven :)

And the patients still either progress to AIDS, or die from the toxicity of the drugs. (nit-pick-- HIV doesnt become immune to antiretrovirals, it evolves around them)

Prescribing multiple, unnecessary antibiotics is just about one of the stupidest things I can think of.  Ill probably have a post up on this soon.

Date: 2007/12/12 21:18:31, Link
Author: ERV
Yay!  Thanks Afarensis!

I just have one thing to say to all the AtBC posters.

One thing, cause you all will get the joke:

Go to a bookstore.
Find a copy of 'Design of Life'.
Look at pages 208-209.

I havent laughed that hard in a long time.

Date: 2007/12/14 11:25:55, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 14 2007,10:40)
Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 13 2007,13:46)
And speaking of unfulfilled... Whatever happened to The Big ID Big Business Bash?

We saw some pre-meetin' pub, but nothing afterwords.

Did it even take place?  (I seem to recall this was supposed to happen at Baylor, right about the time WMad went crazy(ier) on a Friday and published the Baylor Board of Directors addresses and phone numbers...

Anybody got details?

Dog, funny you mention this.  I was going to post/ask about it myself.

It seems not only is IDC a loser in the science world, it's a loser in business too.

And it seemed so promising at the time...Poor Dipski.

Oh well...

The ID Business Extravaganza happened the weekend after Dembski belly-flopped at OU.  I assumed it was a normal Christan revival, and Dembski was just lying low, at the time.

Date: 2007/12/17 10:57:17, Link
Author: ERV
My review of one page in 'Design of Life'

Date: 2007/12/18 07:38:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 18 2007,05:51)
Can you think of any of the leading lights of the ID movement that aren't described by this?

Yes.  Dembski is sociopathic.
# Persistent lying or stealing
# Recurring difficulties with the law
# Tendency to violate the rights of others (property, physical, sexual, emotional, legal)
# Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
# Inability to keep a job
# A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)
# Inability to tolerate boredom
# Disregard for the safety of self or others
# A childhood diagnosis of conduct disorders
# Lack of remorse for hurting others
# Possessing a superficial charm or wit
# Impulsiveness
# A sense of extreme entitlement
# Inability to make or keep friends
Not joking.  He needs to see a professional.

Date: 2007/12/18 10:39:57, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Dec. 18 2007,09:56)
The extension of psychiatric/psychological diagnoses and disorders into this debate is, IMHO, entirely off base. This is, for the most part, the wrong level of explanation for the phenomena described in the opening post.

I also object to the attribution of sociopathy/psychopathy to Wm. Dembski. He has his problems, but he is manifestly not sociopathic.

These are cheap shots and don't go to the issues of community allegiance, cult-like enforcement of cognitive comformity, generative entrenchment and other more sociological and political factors that (again IMHO) underlie the behavior we are witnessing. Best to start with Dennett's question ("Cui Bono?") and move from there.

The behavior I have witnessed of Dembski in person and online is not indicative of a healthy individual.  I have a family member with anti-social personality disorders, and I saw red flags with D. right off the bat, and, it is well known that people with mental health issues can go untreated until they 'break' because they hide behind religion.  

Behe, Wells, who the hell knows.  But I think its obvious that Dembski has very real problems, and I think one manifestation of that is his arrogance and brazen, baffling behaviors.  Its not a low-blow-- its a logical answer to the OP questions.

Date: 2007/12/19 09:40:41, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 19 2007,08:45)
[Note: Malicious allegations have been made that this work somehow plagiarises something by W.S. Gilbert. Nothing could be further from the truth and I emphatically state that I have nothing to apologise for. And I'm really sorry. Comments on this subject are now closed.]



Date: 2007/12/21 22:38:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 21 2007,16:38)
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Dec. 21 2007,13:53)
Here's a chance to win 100 $, from Dembski himself:

"I like it, but frankly I think we can do better. I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me). The sticker needs to be posted online as a jpeg with a link in the comments to this thread. For now, the sticker should only publicize EXPELLED (explicit connection with DoL as a companion volume can be done later). The contest extends through February 12th, 2008 — Darwin’s birthday and the official release date of EXPELLED."

COPYRIGHT-- Ur still doin it rong.

Date: 2007/12/22 17:28:10, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Dec. 22 2007,17:03)
Gil Dodg'em:
Darwinist Negative-Review Spam Campaign Backfires at Amazon

Last week, The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence In Biological Systems was in the 17,000-20,000 range at Since the Darwinist-sponsored negative-review spam campaign (with “reviews” written mostly by people who obviously had not read the book), and as of this writing, the book is sitting at about 3,000, and is:

#1 in Books > Professional & Technical > Professional Science > Biological Sciences > Biology > Developmental Biology
#1 in Books > Science > Biological Sciences > Biology > Developmental Biology

Wow, they LIED to me. Correlation IS cause and effect.

Last week, 'Design' was 'out of stock' and no one could order it.  When it says 'out of stock' again, 90 copies have been sold (I think its 90, vague memory of a comment someone wrote somewhere).

Date: 2007/12/23 19:26:38, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 23 2007,18:00)
ERV is working up another post on Dembski and the Harvard/XVIVO video. It turns out that Dembski's "bullet-proof" text in "The Design of Life" includes a URL to the original video at Harvard, and gives a "last accessed" date that is months prior to the OU talk date.

Theres even more now, but its not really my doing-- I bow to the skills of The Masters.  I promise it'll be up <24 hours!

Also, I caught a live one at Amazon.  Ewert has to be a UD commenter.  Front loading?  
Uh huh.

Date: 2007/12/24 16:53:23, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2008/01/01 08:55:37, Link
Author: ERV
I know this person.  They had a different blog before and linked to me... lemme do some hunting to see if I can find the old site.

Date: 2008/01/01 11:24:01, Link
Author: ERV
Sorry oleg.  Same person and same blog, they just dont have an archive in the side-bar.  Thought I would have been able to find more info for ya.

From Ian Ramjohns blog:
Not a Fair Fight - “Professor Smith”, a “researcher at a middle-size public university on the Eastern seaboard” and ID supporter, attacks Abbie and the rest of “the materialists” for “attacking en masse with underhanded comments and ambushes“. It appears that “Professor Smith” didn’t bother to delve too deeply into the facts of the matter (”He was invited to speak, although the accounts that I’ve read make it sound more like an ambush“) before attacking Abbie for, among other things “underhanded tactic of poisoning the well by attacking the commenters on Dembski’s blog“. She’s invited to discuss the matter at UD, gets banned after three comments, attacked there, attacked at her blog…and dear old “Professor Smith” calls it “underhand” and “well poisoning” to mention that fact. He continues “So, either he censures comments and is criticized for hiding, or he doesn’t and is criticized for what others say?” I sure hope that Smith is simply speaking out of an ignorance he couldn’t be bothered to correct. Anyone who knows anything about UD knows that (a) they delete comments and ban participants who disagree with them; and (b) the people who attacked Abbie are the people Dembski picked to manage the blog. His final sentence is especially amusing: “It should be about science, but when you don’t have science on your side, you have to resort to something, right?” Umm, yeah, that’s pretty much how the IDists operate: since they have yet to come up with a single scientific contribution, they engage in obfuscation, misdirection and smear campaigns. Projection on the part of “Professor Smith”?

That last comment was especially funny since my question to Dembski in the Q&A was "If youve got so much science on your side, why do you need to attack students like this?"

Date: 2008/01/02 07:53:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Jan. 02 2008,07:44)
True enough, the kid was a moron, and yes, his point was probably lost among his idiotic showboating, I fail to understand why it's "scary" without the fact that destroying a bible offends you.

Actually, if you go back to that news article you will find that the dear dear little Christian girl who was so offended wasnt *exactly* truthful to the reporters.

The kid got 20/25 on the presentation as well, not a score I would give a show-boating asshole.

And, there is a difference between literature analysis and being a small watery puddle of cottage cheese, FtK.  You get that saying 'The Three Musketeers is crap!' and 'Germ Theory is crap!' are different things, right?  'People who believe in homeopathy are idiots!' is different from 'People who believe in the Holocaust are idiots!'?

Date: 2008/01/02 17:17:01, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 01 2008,12:31)
ERV, it's likely that I, too, first learned about professorsmith from Ian's post.  

GCT, I have observed professorsmith for a while and I strongly doubt that he/she is a faculty member anywhere.  His/her view of academia packed with scheming materialists is such a bad caricature that I can't help laughing.  


Really?  Faculty rarely go for lunch to a restaurant for no particular reason (such as to treat a visitor).  University cafeteria, maybe.  And we don't sit around arguing until the restaurant had cleared: it's noon and there's work to do!  

But professorsmith seems to have a lot of time on his/her hands.  Check out the regular Dog Sunday feature on that blog.  Time stamps on photographs featured in those posts show that he/she can afford to ditch work and spend a couple of hours.  In the woods.  At midday on a Wednesday.  In the middle of a semester!

No, oleg, I agree with you.  If they are in academia, they arent in science.

From my very, very limited exposure to academia as a lifestyle, I completely agree with you about the strangeness of the long lunches/afternoons to play with pups/etc.  Even where I went to college, a public liberal arts university where hard-core research was not a priority, my proffs didnt ever screw around with their dogs in the middle of the day-- They were always in their offices/classrooms/labs.

My BS meter is going off too.

Date: 2008/01/02 21:31:08, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 02 2008,21:11)
Dave: Here, comment 29.

Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Which goes along with the rest of her post perfectly!  Yay!

So whats your point, FtK?  Did PZ peg ya wrong?  Explain it to us.

Date: 2008/01/03 08:16:49, Link
Author: ERV
Hmm.  Well, Sal gave a hat-tip to FtK.  Did he follow this interaction on your blog, or did you email him about it?

If its email, why dont you take screen shots, with dates, of your email exchange with Sal and we can all see how it was about 'personal morality and how we establish our morals' and not getting cheap points against Skatje.

Not that that will entirely help you, as 'personal morality' makes no sense when applied to Skatje's post... Im just trying to help you out, FtK, as your actions the past couple of days have gone well past disgusting, and are nearing unforgivable.

Date: 2008/01/03 08:24:37, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 03 2008,07:33)
You are *completely* missing the point.  It's all about personal morality and how we establish our morals.

SAL-- I’m refraining from commenting on the morality of human-animal sex in this post...

Date: 2008/01/03 08:33:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 03 2008,08:31)
Skatje is the one who came to *MY* blog to complain about *my* beliefs about what *is* and *is* not immoral.    Nobody when after Skatje...she's a big girl and she surfs the creationists blogs just like the rest of you.  She decided to park a comment at my place that wasn't ignored.

Unlike everyone elses posts that are just deleted-->banned.

Date: 2008/01/03 14:21:29, Link
Author: ERV

When did you tell him/her your last name?

I didnt know until Dembski told Sal on my blog.

Date: 2008/01/04 22:14:49, Link
Author: ERV
Dont forget, after all of that-- Behe admitted I was right.

OH WAIT!  He admitted *IAN* was right!  Not me, though.  Im just a dumb girl.

Edited to add-- Im sorry, where has SAL acknowledged that Behe said I was right, and that his accusations were unwarranted and assholish?  Where? Oh nowhere? Huh.  **goes back to eating her bowl of cottage cheese**

Date: 2008/01/04 23:31:16, Link
Author: ERV
1.  Give one example of a person being unbanned from UD.

2.  SAL was already on my blog, harassing me.  Something Billy D approved of until he noticed Oleg was posting there.  When confronted in person, Billy apologized for the behavior of his UD posters, but subsequently did nothing to prevent it from happening in the future.  Indeed it was a fake little boy apology, as he urged his UD minions to keep terrorizing people by posting the home contact information of people at Baylor he didnt like.  

3.  This all would have been avoided if Behe said I was right after my essay was posted, instead of hiding in his room for months.  But that would have required intellectual honesty he does not have.

Date: 2008/01/05 13:40:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 05 2008,11:39)
1) Blogs are not classrooms. I would not treat my classroom as a blog just as I’m not treating my blog as a classroom.


The Darwinist gets upset when I tell her to go look at a link and actually read it.

I do encourage my students to explore links and read more thoroughly on the subject.


Professor Smith: "Hello class.  Today we are going to be learning about ubiquitination.  Please open up your textbook to page 456 and click on the links.  Im going to go play with my dogs."

Student: "But books dont have links, Dr. Smith.  And arent you supposed to be our teacher?"

Professor Smith: "DARWINIST!!!!!!!"

Date: 2008/01/05 13:55:27, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 05 2008,12:17)

You, an anonymous poster, were subjected to juvenile name calling by 17-year-olds.  I don't condone it (ah, the pleasure of expanding one's dictionary!), but it would be a fool's errand to try and stamp out teenage rants.  

ERV, a real graduate student also known as S. Abbie Smith, was subjected to deliberate character assassination by a grown-up with three college degrees (and an aspiring scientist to boot).  

I think there's a bit of a difference here.

Which would have been avoided entirely if Behe addressed my claims instead of hiding.  105 days to admit I was right (but Im a dumb woman and should go kill myself).


Why is FtK pointing to me as an excuse for her/SAL saying a kid f*cks pigs, again?

Date: 2008/01/05 15:00:32, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 05 2008,14:31)
Excuse me?  Who implied that you were a dumb woman, and you should go *kill* yourself?

But thats not the point.  He didnt say 'I have a family and summer classes and blah blah blah'.

He said he does not respond to 'unsolicited email' (I didnt email him anything), and I could 'go soak my head' (the rest of the insult is 'go soak your head and dont come up for air.')

He was aware of my essay and chose not to respond to it because if he acknowledged my essay, he would ultimately have to acknowledge that his core ID claims are false (protein-protein interactions evolve, and we can see it happening).  Because he caved in and responded to me (OH I MEAN IAN, NOT DUMB BABY ME) he cant release 'Edge' again without massive re-writes, ie a new book.  Hes screwed, and it was because he is lazy and/or incompetent.  But because he allowed it, the Great UD Adventure occurred, and because THAT occurred and Dembski CONDONED the behaviors directed towards me, I attended his presentation at OU, and because I went to that presentation, I noticed Dembski stole Harvards animation.  And because of emails I got through contacting Harvard, I knew to look for stolen pics in 'Design of Life'...  

Boy, Behe being a fat baby sure caused the DI a lot of trouble...

Date: 2008/01/06 14:20:29, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 06 2008,14:10)

More dogs in the snow

Lately, I’ve seen a lot of Darwinists on this blog, so I’m glad it’s Sunday when I can put up pictures of my dogs and not have to worry about their dogmatic mindsets.  I just happen to like these pictures, and I hope you do too.

It's strange to hear this from a guy/gal claiming to work at a state university, a place presumably crawling with Darwinists.  How do you keep your sanity at work, Prof?  :p

um... is that second picture a picture of dog poo?  I dont see a dog in it...

What atheist dogs do on Sunday mornings:

Date: 2008/01/06 21:39:44, Link
Author: ERV
You probably already know this, but just in case, Sanford is a YEC that spoke for ID at the KS kangaroo court.

Date: 2008/01/07 12:39:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 07 2008,11:16)
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 06 2008,15:42)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 05 2008,22:49)
Quote (Annyday @ Jan. 05 2008,23:43)
Off topic: does anyone know about migraines? The problem I have can be stated in syllogism:

1) I keep getting migraines.
2) I don't like having migraines.
3) Therefore, I need to figure out a way to nix the migraines.

This is a stupid and desperate question since I've already tried everything I know of short of opiates, but I have a migraine and I'm willing to dredge.

ETA: I also have not tried alcohol. I lump it very near opiates in desperation.

It could be diet related. Anything new in your cuisine?

I used to get them really bad. Chocolate, red wine, red meat, sugar were triggers.

That sucked so much it was a headache in itself.

Getting enough sleep, minimizing noise/dem blinkin' lights, warning co-workers that I'll get irritable if they yak at me too long, and managing stress better made a big difference.

(Naturally, "managing stress" includes red wine, chocolate, and red meat. Sugar is the devil's beach.) ;)

I heard something about a mouth brace (like a boxers) that stops you grinding your teeth at night which stops you producing a chemical that's associated with Migraine. It builds up in the jaw muscles apparently and causes problems later on in the day. So I understand anyway.

No details I'm afraid, but it's out there somewhere.

omg dude-- Ive got one of those.  Ive suffered from really bad migraines all my life, and we figured it was hormones.

Went to a new dentist Fall '06.  He said 'You grind your teeth.'  I was like, 'Um... none of my roomates/sleeping buddies ever noticed.'  He was like 'You grind your teeth.'

So I got this damn mouth guard-- was actually kind of expensive, but its just like a thin version of the guard I wore for martial arts-- migraines literally went away overnight.


Date: 2008/01/07 18:21:37, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2008,12:57)
Quote (ERV @ Jan. 07 2008,12:39)
So I got this damn mouth guard-- was actually kind of expensive, but its just like a thin version of the guard I wore for martial arts-- migraines literally went away overnight.


Ha!   So, If Demsbksi, had jumped off the stage to go after you, and Behe had challenged you to a little mano y mano, only good things would have happened!  Cool!

Damn - once again I am sooo happy to be with the forces of truth, justice and the American way.

Ya-- I do martial arts, I play the cello, and Im good at math.

Im an asian girl trapped in a jewish girls body :P

Richardthughes-- Kickboxing forever, various other things too in college :)  Its the only sport Im good at.

Date: 2008/01/12 13:14:55, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2008/01/16 21:21:56, Link
Author: ERV
LOL!! OMG!  The tard in that thread!

Patrick-- Resultant admission”? He wasn’t aware of this information when writing the book.
Cause Behe cant figure out how to use Google.  AWESOME! LOL!

Date: 2008/01/17 07:43:53, Link
Author: ERV
Reciprocating Bill: a RAAAAAAAAGING anti-dentite!

Date: 2008/01/18 15:32:27, Link
Author: ERV
Funny for 2 reasons.

1-- Paul Nelson reads my blag.  Proof even Creationists will stick around all that 'science crap' in hopes of seeing a booby post.

2-- Paul Nelson was also 'named' as a DI fellow who was showing 'Inner Life of a Cell'.

Date: 2008/01/18 19:16:53, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mister DNA @ Jan. 18 2008,15:25)
Besides, I seem to remember a couple of people blogging about traffic from ID sites...

*checks sitemeter*

Yeah... Expect a post titled 'No One Reads Uncommon Descent, Part Deux' in the near future.

Date: 2008/01/19 16:52:29, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Hermagoras @ Jan. 18 2008,13:52)
How long can DRat07 last?    

Dr. Nelson - Why are you linking to noted Darwinist Abbie Smith? She is the female graduate student that had the temerity to point out problems with Dr. Behe’s book. She has also instigated trouble for Dr. Dembski by bring up Dr. Dembski’s illegal use of material from Harvard in a presentation Dr. Dembski made to the Univrsity of Oklahoma.
Ms. Smith has been banned from posting on this board, so I do not think that you should give her and her Darwinist cronies the satisfaction of increasing their traffic, or of potentially having someone from this board visit her sight and lose their faith, or lose their faith in ID.

This comment has disappeared, as well as all comments addressing it.

Date: 2008/01/20 17:12:28, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 18 2008,21:49)
In case anyone still thinks that professorsmith might be a biologist, this post should help:

Is My Mushroom a Boy or a Girl?
January 18, 2008 · No Comments

Here’s a fascinating article that has determined that fungus have sexual differences.  This is a great study into the code of DNA and how that code can be programmed for different purposes.  This is a great support for ID, in that it shows how much DNA is an actual code or program.

Wow.  Intro to Biology II information.  Smith is not a biologist.

“do their potties,” (which is their command to evacuate their systems)

Oh now common.  Common.  Who writes that?

Date: 2008/01/25 12:46:02, Link
Author: ERV
In my inbox this morning, via dr. snail:
Today's UD post -

Craigslist Post Aug 30, 2007 -

Well, I suppose more evidence WAD is GF.  They both plagiarize.

Date: 2008/01/26 08:37:10, Link
Author: ERV
Hi everyone!

Something has 'come up' recently, and I was wondering if you all had any photographs of Casey Luskin?  YouTube videos are good too, as I can get screen-shots from there.

Thank you :)

Date: 2008/01/26 10:18:43, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (blipey @ Jan. 26 2008,10:11)

you're a seven foot kick boxer?  Have we finally found your area of expertise?

No, dats me.

I have what I need-- Thank you!!

Date: 2008/01/26 18:52:18, Link
Author: ERV
lol!  Casey doing 'science'-- I didnt respond to him the last time he tried to talk 'science' at the grown ups table.

No, this is purely a personal attack.

Date: 2008/01/26 22:29:39, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 26 2008,21:57)
Abbie has employed Luskin's photograph as well as can be expected without farty noises.

Thats not Luskins photograph.

Thats someone elses photograph of Luskin.

Luskin doesnt want people using the nice, normal pic of him, so fine-- theres an alternative.  *shrug*

Date: 2008/01/26 23:39:23, Link
Author: ERV
So hes a nobody, then?


All the more strange how Lucy DEMANDED a pic, linked to Lucy, HAD to be taken down.  So Lucy doesnt do shit all day but play on the internet, hunting down references to himself, feeling important by conversing with the 'nobodies' he finds linking to him.

What a bright light in the ID movement.

Date: 2008/01/29 07:44:13, Link
Author: ERV
Meltdown Meter at code red.

Minor Character Meltdown imminent.

I repeat, imminent.

Please stand by.

Waiting for approval to release floodgates.

Pending approval, expect meltdown on my blag @ ~6pm CST.

Please remain calm and follow the USID standard meltdown emergency guidelines, as this is just a minor character meltdown, NOT a full WAD meltdown.

Edited to add-- I think Granny Spice proof-read the meltdown.

Date: 2008/01/29 20:50:18, Link
Author: ERV
Current meltdown is over.

Full meltdown available upon request.

Date: 2008/01/30 22:38:49, Link
Author: ERV
This guy is full of shit.

1.  'Life Membership' in MENSA isnt an award.  It means you paid $X, so you dont have to renew every year.

2.  Back in the day, like, when this guy would have joined, you could get into MENSA just by getting a 30 on the ACT.

3.  You dont have to be a genius to join MENSA.  Geniuses dont join MENSA.  MENSA is for the wannabes and losers like this guy. This is where the real homies roll.

4.  IQ tests are bullshit.  Example A) Dave Scott.

Edited, because only people with IQs in the 99.999999 percentile can edit.

Date: 2008/02/03 18:55:21, Link
Author: ERV
Okay, so you all know how I wrote a post on Casey being a miserable loser with no life that just plays on the internet all day?

Miserable loser has a new hobby: screwing around with ERV on Google.

The past week:
1. I write a post making fun of Casey for being a loser
2. ERV disappears from Google
3. I reregister with Google-- everything is back to normal
4. ERV disappears from Google
5. ERV reappears with new descriptions:
The ERV blogs page is all about attacking me personally-otherwise theres no substance to any of it other than trying to mock me and attack me.

lower on the page, ERV description is links to the sites Casey is obsessed with (see his hit-job letter)
6. I 'claim' ERV with Googles webmaster tools, reregister ERV with the proper description.  He shouldnt be able to change anything again.  Sent a nice letter to Google to inform them someone was maliciously altering Google searches for sites they do not own/operate.  Asked them how to protect my site and for any information on who was altering my site.


Sums up Casey perfectly: Annoying.

Date: 2008/02/05 10:12:52, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mister DNA @ Feb. 05 2008,09:19)
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 04 2008,22:43)
Casey Luskin's post surely qualifies to be labbeled as

"BSpr3 (Bullshit on peer reviewed research)".

Could somebody please provide an appropriate icon?

I'm using this image from now on:

If anyone else wants to use it, here's the code:
<a href=””>
<img src=”” alt=”BPSDB” align=”left” height=”87? width=”117? />



Date: 2008/02/05 19:44:31, Link
Author: ERV
omg you guys-- that is the BEST THREAD EVAH!!!  Poor David Dude has no idea what hes gotten into.

Also funny-- Caseys 'excuse' post mirrors his hitman letter to Mike LaSalle about me.  Same damn sentences/phrases-- its very odd.

Date: 2008/02/13 12:07:02, Link
Author: ERV
PZ is in :)

Date: 2008/02/14 20:55:10, Link
Author: ERV
If someone pulls the 'Its the THEORY of evolution, not the LAW of evolution!' just say 'Name a biological law.'

When they cant respond, roll your eyes, flip them off, and call them a tard.

No, heres the deal-- think of laws as facts-- PV=nRT. The sky is blue. Evolution is descent with modification.

Theories tell you the why behind the facts.  Theories are bigger than the facts and laws they encompass.

Date: 2008/02/25 21:07:03, Link
Author: ERV


**runs away to her Ivory Tower, sobbing**

Date: 2008/02/26 16:05:55, Link
Author: ERV

Tim = Casey Luskin?

Date: 2008/02/26 16:10:37, Link
Author: ERV

Email me, Kevin.  We need to talk about Behe and Dembski.  If youre looking for a student who has been harassed, slandered, and threatened by professional scientists/philosophers just seeking the truth for EXPELLED, I would be happy to sign on.

Date: 2008/02/26 16:18:37, Link
Author: ERV
Its all the same person.  The only people who talk like that are undercover agents.

Date: 2008/02/26 18:22:05, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (rpenner @ Feb. 26 2008,16:50)
Why is this movie taking so long from the appearantly completed version being shown around the country to it's rumored April theatrical release? Are you waiting for original animation...


New guy wins.

Date: 2008/02/27 06:43:31, Link
Author: ERV

Thanks, Lou!  It is the same-- same lines.  Tim is either one of us sockpuppeting, or a bored troll.

Date: 2008/03/19 08:03:14, Link
Author: ERV
Thank you so much Nomad!

I have informed the ADL of 'EXPELLED'.  They might ignore it, but Im hoping they officially denounce the film.

We slaughter the science, ADL slaughters the 'philosophy'.

Date: 2008/03/19 08:21:13, Link
Author: ERV
J-Dog-- Its a possibility.  I wasnt in on it-- but an individual contacted me several months ago for Harvard/XVIVOs contact information... Thats is all I know.  So it is a possibility.  Its also possible they changed it to 'Unlocking the Mysteries of Life' animation, like they did with 'Design of Life'.

Nomad-- was it a flagella lighting up like a video game?  Twirling and flashing lights?  Nice looking, but kinda mid-1990s-ish?  'Unlocking'.  Super smooth resolution, quick changes from one part of the cell to another, lots of action?  'Inner Life'.

Just a refresher, cause now Im interested again:

Date: 2008/03/19 12:08:54, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 19 2008,12:05)
If VLC can't play it it's likely not worth playing! It replaced media player years ago for me! :)

Mac and my PC!  VLC is all I use for DVD watching and everything (though I have some old RealMedia files it wont recognize).

Date: 2008/03/19 19:03:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 19 2008,18:44)
I'm not sure.  I don't know what's normal practice at pre-release screenings, but I suspect some sort of non-disclosure agreement may be standard.  The sort of police-state shenanigans described by Nomad sound well beyond the pale, although I'm willing to be proved wrong if anyone knows more about the industry.

Well, I worked at a movie theater for my entire teenage years (ran it myself for a year--small town).  I got to watch 'Lord of the Rings'/'Phantom Menace'/etc weeks before everyone else.  No non-disclosure agreements.

I dont think EXPELLED>>Lord of the Rings.

EXPELLED>>Phantom Menace is possible...

Date: 2008/03/20 21:57:33, Link
Author: ERV
Im sitting here, eating a piece of pineapple upside-down cheesecake with Arnie.  Friend IMs me on gmail "OMFG GO TO PHARYNGULA GO TO PHARYNGULA!"

Best day ever.




Date: 2008/03/20 22:56:35, Link
Author: ERV
Im glad you were there, Kristine.  At first I was worried Richard was in with those people by himself...


Date: 2008/03/20 23:56:51, Link
Author: ERV
Awesome, Wes!

Blog about that so I can link to you :P

Date: 2008/03/21 20:01:19, Link
Author: ERV
DI finally responds.

No unexpected TARD.

Date: 2008/03/23 17:05:06, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 23 2008,11:14)
More on the video:

Duae: We created the animation in conjunction with an animation studio and several cell biologists. It is a completely original work. The only similarity I can see between it and the Harvard animation is that it may portray one or more of the same cellular processes. But as far as I'm concerned, no one has copyrighted any cellular processes--at least not yet. I'm sure Craig Venter would like to. :) If Dawkins had stuck around to read the full credits for the film, he would have known this. It has nothing to do with the Illustra animation.

Posted by: Kevin Miller | March 23, 2008 at 08:09 AM

*looks at Kevin*

*smiles, trying desperately to hide her fangs*

Please do keep it in, Dear Kevin.

Date: 2008/03/25 12:27:10, Link
Author: ERV
I wonder if we are ever going to get the names of the individuals that worked on EXPELLEDs totally new and completely original animation?

Harvard guys are interested.  It took them over a year to make 'Inner Life' with Harvard PIs and an entire team of professional bio-animators, and now some Creationists do the same thing independently in approximately 2-3 months.  Those 'cell biologists' and 'animation studio' must rock!

Date: 2008/03/25 21:07:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,20:21)
I have a great red party dress I've only gotten to wear once.


Heh, its not showing in Oklahoma.

A Creationist movie.

Not showing in Oklahoma.


Date: 2008/03/26 21:27:16, Link
Author: ERV
My question is something even a screenwriter should know:

1.  Who made your computer simulations of a 'cell as an automated city'?

Cause the guy listed on the EXPELLED credits as 'computer animator' says he didnt have anything to do with it.

*slaps her hand over her mouth*  Uh oh!  Pahsketti-oh!

Edited to add-- The detective powers of a student that has a test at 8 am tomorrow and is procrastinating studying-- fear them.

Date: 2008/03/26 21:41:10, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 26 2008,21:34)
Seriously?  The guy had no part in the actual animation in the film. Wow. Just...what the hell? What'll they claim next I wonder: they exposed the Harvard footage to radiation and it evolved?  I really would dearly love to get a hold of the stuff from the film and do a frame by frame comparison to Harvard's.

No, dude did other shit-- he just said he had nothing to do with that particular bit of animation.  'He said.'

Dude appears to be a genuine computer animator, so I believe him.  Copy someone elses shit, and you will never work again, plus I assume there is something about honor in art and being original.

Seems like someone else might have had a hand in this.

Someone with access to people who are not computer animators as artists, but as a, I dunno, computer animators as a mindless computer task.

I dont know who that someone might be...........


Date: 2008/03/28 18:59:21, Link
Author: ERV
Have there been any showings of EXPELLED since Good Thursday?

Date: 2008/03/29 17:46:17, Link
Author: ERV


(Im sending that to Harvard, they will lol over it)

Date: 2008/03/30 21:30:01, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 25 2008,23:16)
I indulged myself in my first lecture to the first year medical students.  I would begin, “I am Doctor Hurd.  I am a real Doctor.  I have a Ph.D.  I welcome you to your studies here at the Medical College where you will receive the M.D., or Masters of Disease.”

Much booing and hissing ensued.

One of my last lectures to a medical group was titled, "I am a real doctor, but..." which was on the different roles in medical education and research played by scientists and clinicians.

I think the PhD student vs MD student war has been going on since the beginning of time.

Date: 2008/03/30 21:36:18, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (raguel @ Mar. 30 2008,20:46)
From Kevin's "answers":

I know there are probably many more predictions than this, but here are a few that I find compelling:...4) informational structures beyond the inherent abilities of blind natural forces and random chance will be found,

hehehehehe thanks for the repost (I missed/ignored Kevins answers) but thats a good one.  Im LUVING how all of IDs predictions sound like they were written by John Edwards/Sylvia Brown/Miss Cleo.

Date: 2008/03/31 11:44:17, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 30 2008,21:52)
DaveScot raises our hopes:


9:19 pm

This is so funny. Hundreds of comments on Pharyngula and they’re split on whether this is a dig at creationists or evolutionists. Does anyone here have any doubt it’s a brilliant hip-hop mockery of scientists who think they’re smarter than everyone else when in reality they’re just nerds with no street survival skills? Smart, on the urban streets, is having a 9mm Glock and knowing how to use it not having a biology degree and knowing how to use it. Amazing. There’s nothing more pathetic than a nerd who doesn’t know he’s a nerd. I swear I’ll eat my shirt pocket protector if this wasn’t commissioned by the Expelled producers as a tool to get a buzz going.

I think this is one of my favorite DaveTard quotes ever!  LOL What, did DT grow up in the ghetto of East St. Louis?  Dealt drugs in Detroit?  'Real homies carry a 9mm, aiight?' ROFL!!!!

Man I be a skinny white chick with a huge ass black pit bull, my homie neighbors think Im a crazy ass bitch, but they respect crazy ass bitches, so I aint need no 9mm.

Pfff 9mm. What he know about livin in de hood.

Date: 2008/04/02 11:49:20, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Quidam @ April 01 2008,16:44)
At the risk of blowing his cover, Behe actually IS on our side. And he doesn't hide it. Whenever he's pushed, he affirms that evolution is an accurate statement of reality and that he agrees with an ancient earth, common ancestry and evolution. In the meantime he milks the creationists every decade with another book that recycles tired old arguments. When he gets pulled in front of a judge, he make a token effort and either takes a dive or carefully points out the flaws in his own arguments.

His faint support is brilliant. He manages to make a career and good money from creationists while subtly castrating them. If he didn't show up someone else might.

A major problem with your hypothesis is that Behe has nine kids.  Nine.  If he had adopted nine children, that would be wonderful-- but humans have 'children'.  They dont have 'litters'.  I doubt Behe is willing to take the 'Im just playing the role of religious wacko' to the degree he mimics their breeding habits.  Hes just a religious wacko.

Date: 2008/04/02 13:15:18, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 02 2008,12:47)
At least Behe has the stones to testify.

Is it 'bravery'... or stupidity... or psychosis?

Date: 2008/04/03 07:46:32, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2008/04/03 15:54:28, Link
Author: ERV
Kevin, I just saw your completely new and totally original animation online (a nice radical Christian group uploaded it).

1.  Kevin, who made your animation?

Date: 2008/04/03 18:28:47, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ April 03 2008,17:59)
Quote (ERV @ April 03 2008,15:54)
Kevin, I just saw your completely new and totally original animation online (a nice radical Christian group uploaded it).

1.  Kevin, who made your animation?


Will PM to people interested.

Kevin can answer the question, then he can have linky.

Date: 2008/04/03 21:05:36, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ April 03 2008,18:21)
I just received this from our friends at Expelled:


I am emailing to let you know that we have cancelled the Milwaukee screening of Expelled on April 8th.  The Producers of the film are very busy preparing for the film's release in theaters April 18th and due to unavoidable changes in their schedules, they are unable to make it out to Milwaukee for this screening.  I've included links below to information on theaters showing the film in your area and great FREE resources.

Please reply back to let me know you got this notification.


Theater Locator:
Win $1000 in our Group Sales Competition:
Download the poster and other great materials:
Order your FREE Expelled Kit:

Theyre lying.

Do not reply.

Call the theater.


Date: 2008/04/04 09:39:58, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 04 2008,07:44)
For all venters (Craig included):


Hands up who wants to try it out on Kairosfocus.

That is so awesome.

So random, so kick ass.

Date: 2008/04/04 09:49:12, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (guthrie @ April 04 2008,09:42)
Is there a USA'ian significance about the name "summer glau"?

Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles

I got you a tight present.

Date: 2008/04/04 22:50:59, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ April 04 2008,20:06)
i think wesley et al misunderstood my meaning. see my latest comment on the "everyone who disagrees with me is stupid' post on my blog.

Who made your animation, Kevin?

Date: 2008/04/07 13:20:45, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ April 07 2008,12:49)
... a paradigm...



Louis-- We had a visiting lecturer last week, one of the big dogs at the NIH.  Very nice fellow (I couldnt bully him into a fight either, where are these mean scientists I keep hearing about?), loved to talk about languages.  He was amazed I knew the history behind 'Abigail'.  Anyway, he said that when you start thinking in a language, thats when you are officially fluent.  I think/dream in lol-speak.  I just thought you should know that.

Date: 2008/04/07 13:23:13, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ April 07 2008,13:15)
As I've said elsewhere, Expelled didn't invent these arguments. So if you want to quibble over them, I direct you to the people who make them in our film.

You dont know who made your animation, you dont make any arguments about Darwin-->Hitler, you were just a writer, you didnt have anything to do with promoting the film, etc etc etc...


Date: 2008/04/07 13:53:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Louis @ April 07 2008,13:36)
Not that I would ever suggest a Nazi connection but I do wonder if Kevin was just following orders? ;-)

How did you know what I was thinking??  I think youre right about the genius thing.  What is your IQ score, calibrated by your SAT scores at the age of 23?  I find that scale to be the most useful.

Anyway Kevin, as much as Im enjoying your tap-dance routine here, just gotta put this out there since you apparently *dont know* some things about your own movie: If you dont know who the fall guy is, its you.

btw-- FAIL, loser.

Date: 2008/04/09 18:25:05, Link
Author: ERV
EXPELLED: EXPELLED for plagiarism

Date: 2008/04/09 19:03:48, Link
Author: ERV
I am but only the messenger.

Thank arrogant Creationists for the lulz.

Date: 2008/04/09 21:44:43, Link
Author: ERV

<--ERV, biggest bitch in the biosphere, 1st runner up biggest bitch in the solar system

Date: 2008/04/10 12:08:12, Link
Author: ERV
DI is fucked.  Tub-Tub-TARD has jumped to Premise's defense:
Expelled does NOT use the Harvard animation. The producers paid a professional to create a new animation that is more accurate than the Harvard one (based on current knowledge of cellular processes). Any similarities between the Expelled animation and the Harvard one are due to the fact that both animations depict many of the same processes.

So *thats* where Kevin got that line!

Thank you, Mr. Wells.  I shall be feasting on roast Creationist pig tonight (must work, will blag later).

Date: 2008/04/10 16:46:31, Link
Author: ERV
William Dembski: Not a Lawyer

Date: 2008/04/11 12:36:44, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (J-Dog @ April 11 2008,12:23)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 11 2008,11:45)
Once it is released, there will be no doubt about what the animation content is, and the detailed comparisons to the Harvard/XVIVO product should become broadly available. I would hope that becomes a talking point that the media never lets Stein walk away from... "Why does your animation look so much like theirs, right down to the errors they made?"

Wes - Any talk about getting an injunction to prevent release until the "expropriated" footage is removed?

They are exploring their options.


Date: 2008/04/12 00:49:12, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ April 11 2008,11:41)
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 11 2008,10:27)
Is there no honour among sock-puppets?    

FYI. You might want to google “Leopold Stotch”, then tell me who is the troll.

So, if there were no sock-puppets at UD, how many comments do you suppose they would get?

Yesterday (Friday):
UD referrals from multiple references in comments and the front page: 246 referrals from a reference in the comments on a post: 734

Pandas Thumb referrals: 2,605

Average number of sockpuppets per AtBCer-- 3.4

I dont know how to do stats on that.  Would someone please ask Mega-TARD to do a Poisson distribution analysis on that?

Date: 2008/04/12 10:57:15, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 12 2008,06:30)
Flunked, Not Expelled: Ben Stein Contradicts Mark Mathis

They should have gotten their stories straight.

Im glad the media (and we) are keeping track of all the stories that the EXPELLED crew has made up to cover their asses about this animation (and all the other crap they are lying about).

Is it ironic to anyone else that the pre-EXPELLED circus is more entertaining than the actual movie?

Date: 2008/04/12 20:12:31, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (steve_h @ April 12 2008,17:42) is a standard UD 404 (page disappeared)

This could mean that someone has created a draft post and not published it, or that something was posted and subsequently disappeared (either Demsbki posted something, or  somebody else posted in Demsbki's name), either way it would be difficult for an outsider to fake this.

Wait, Bill (our Bill, not Tard Bill) didnt make that 'UD post'?


Date: 2008/04/14 21:29:02, Link
Author: ERV
heh.  Kev aint come back round these parts, has he?

'Legal reasons'?  I thought EXPELLED planned all this?

Date: 2008/04/15 11:42:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (charlie d @ April 15 2008,10:42)
Quote (Assassinator @ April 15 2008,10:36)
Did biologists in general even worked on Expelled?

Not sure what you mean.  Sternberg and Crocker are biologists of course, although I don't know if they had any role in the movie other than being interviewed while looking soulful and aggrieved.  But IIRC Kevin Miller claimed at one point that they had a "team of cell biologists" hard at work on the animations, so there must be at least 2.

He also made that statement before Billy D screamed 'LEEEEEROOOOOY JENKINS!' and admitted they just stole the fucking thing.

Any references to 'cell biologist(s)' were a lie.  OOOH LOOK!  A LYING FUNDIE CHRISTIAN!  Ooooh put that man in a museum-- hes rare, that Kevin.

Piece of shit.

Date: 2008/04/15 17:51:36, Link
Author: ERV
Peter got it.

Date: 2008/04/15 18:36:51, Link
Author: ERV
I finally got angry.

Date: 2008/04/15 18:42:22, Link
Author: ERV
That kinesin shit is bullshit to first year grad students all over the country.

We fought over that shit for a couple of weeks last fall.  "Hand over hand" blah blah blah is the tip of a huge iceberg.  That excuse is pure fucking shit and their little letter has done nothing but enrage XVIVO and Harvard.

I will have a post on kinesin just like I had one on actin some time soon.

Date: 2008/04/15 21:02:33, Link
Author: ERV
Premise Media is in Canada.

XVIVO is in Connecticut.

'Lawsuit' filed in......... Texas.  In Billy Ds back yard.

Which is great, cause its just a 3 hour drive for me to go testify, should someone ask.

And I hope they ask.


Date: 2008/04/16 10:22:28, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Zachriel @ April 16 2008,09:02)
Proving copyright infringement can be difficult. A court will tend not to enforce the claim without something more than mere resemblance, but typically require a striking similarity. And the plantiffs have to prove that these similarities are due to actual copying rather than a result of the underlying process being independently depicted. Angles and scales of depiction are certainly evidence of this (and derivative works are clearly protected).

But, there may also be a type of watermark. For instance, if particular objects have specific movements (e.g. jiggles) that are identical in both depictions, but are not due to a correlation of the underlying process, then that would be evidence of copying.

I'm sure this is something the original animator would immediately recognize.

Not just the animator.  Ive found at least a dozen such examples, and I didnt make 'Inner Life'.  I just actually pay attention in class, even when profs are blithering about shit that has nothing to do with HIV.

I dont think you all realize how 'artistically rendered' that kinesin bopping along is.  I dont even think old school scientists realize how bad it is-- We read lots of recent papers on kinesin last fall in class.  There is no way under god that EXPELLED 'independently' made that same kinesin, same camera angles, same bopping, in a fraction of the time it took XVIVO (which was using 3 year old data).

I was going to write more about these (ie my actin post), but since EXPELLED is suing XVIVO (Premise Media, mind you, not their so called 'animation studio' which would be most damaged by false allegations of plagiarism-- Premise Media.) Im keeping my mouth shut.  Lets just say that their Google list of 'resources' on kinesin made my classmates and I LOL.

I wonder if thats how Premise people think scientists do research?  Not PubMed-- 'Google'...  Jesus fuck.

Actually, Premise Media doesnt need to file any lawsuit.

All they need to do is show everyone the animation they used at their December 9th preview.  If 'Inner Life' is there, they are fucked.  If the Frankenstein 'Inner Life' is there, they should have all their data to back up their claims.

What was shown December 9, 2007?

Date: 2008/04/16 16:56:44, Link
Author: ERV
There is no reason to go to EXPELLED now, at least for me.  I was planning on going to check out the animation, but they removed XVIOVs stuff, so I dont care anymore.

Glad that came out before Friday!  Saved me $10 and a 20-30 minute drive!

godsilove, you rock!

Date: 2008/04/17 07:19:56, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (didymos @ April 16 2008,22:26)
Gack. Sorry.  Here's the commercial:


Excuse me, but lest we forget, WAD completely agrees with Dawkins-- that a Designer is just as likely as hobgoblins or 'gremlins', if you will.

Date: 2008/04/18 11:43:18, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 18 2008,09:38)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 18 2008,09:57)
Poor DaveTard.
(1) He doesn't like Allen's arguments where he cites primary literature. They're "a load of crap" apparently. He doesn't really address them, though.
(2) His mom had fleas once.




7:44 am

MacNeill’s arguments are a load of crap from top to bottom. He lied here for over a year letting people call him doctor and professor without correction. He’s all hat and no cattle.

Here’s a tip from your old pal Dave, one of those things my momma taught me:

If you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas.

DaveTard forgot to add:

"And I'm a flea."

Jesus Christ, Dave cant get anything right.

Arnie has slept with me for over a year.  He/We have never gotten fleas.

If you sleep with a dog, you get shoved to a little corner of the bed, kicked, and occasionally have your pillows confiscated, but never 'fleas'.  Ek.

Date: 2008/04/19 09:15:47, Link
Author: ERV



Name for their animation "Inner Life of a 1982 TRON Cell"

They tried soooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaard and its still stupid LOOOOOL!

Date: 2008/04/20 19:21:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (didymos @ April 20 2008,18:36)
Oh, and apparently, Darwinists have almost ruined FTK's son's birthday party.  Are you happy now?  Huh?  You Darwinist Nazi Vampire motherfuckers?

FTKs sons birthday is April 20th?

Hitlers birthday?


Date: 2008/04/20 21:19:58, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (skeptic @ April 20 2008,20:06)
Aside from the fact that documentaries do not count on the success scale, if anyone paid $3.5 million for that movie then I expect criminal charges to be filed soon.

Seriously, right?

How did they spend that much money?  They paid PZ $2000, I think.  Plane tickets for the crews to visit/tape interviews.  Few hours editing in (free) Lord Privy clips.

I bet it was one big money laundering scheme.

Date: 2008/04/21 19:31:10, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (don_quixote @ April 21 2008,05:53)
I've just sent him an email. It'll be interesting to see what the response will be.

Dont send him an email.

Send one to his uni.

Ask them if it is a Grove City tradition to have their professors hold part-time pan-handling positions.

Date: 2008/04/21 21:44:46, Link
Author: ERV

Now I have to tell you all my favorite birthday story.  One day, I got one of these stupid forwards from my friends-- put in your birth date and it gave you your 'life path' number and horoscope and all that crap... plus your 'conceived on' date.

I was conceived on my moms birthday.


I was blind for a week after taking that stupid survey.

May it serve as a warning to you all.

Date: 2008/04/21 22:57:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dochocson @ April 21 2008,22:42)
Many Happy Returns!

Color me clueless, but it never connected in my head that ERV hails from OKC. I was just there a month ago. I could have paid homage.

No I dont hail from here, Im just on a voluntary exile to Mars for Five Years, as commanded by our Lord and Saviour David Bowie. :P

Date: 2008/04/22 07:00:23, Link
Author: ERV


Date: 2008/04/23 18:43:24, Link
Author: ERV
Fine.  It was fair use.  So why did they ask 'The Killers' and not Yoko Ono?

God they are retarded.

Date: 2008/04/24 11:11:06, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 24 2008,03:15)
Ono is seeking Premise's profit from the documentary, as well as at least $75,000 in damages and a ban on the 1971 song's use in the film.

All the profit - potentially gone!,5143,695273188,00.html

EDIT: And if it makes a loss? Does Yoko owe them money? :)

In addition to Premise, based in Dallas, and Rampant Films, located in Sherman Oaks, Calif., the suit names Salt Lake City-based distributor Rocky Mountain Pictures Inc. Stein, the 63-year-old former speechwriter for President Richard Nixon, isn't named in the suit.

Premise Media is not located in Dallas.  It is in Vancouver, British Columbia.

Why is all this Dallas stuff going on?

Is this whole mess one big Dembski spooge?

Dallas-- Where the XVIVO 'suit' was filed
Dallas-- EXPELLED premier
Dallas-- This Yoko Ono stuff
Dallas-- Dembski
Dallas-- Institute for Creation Research


Date: 2008/04/24 16:04:34, Link
Author: ERV
After the Premise-XVIVO press release came out last week, I emailed them back and asked when theft was a protected form of free speech.

They never wrote me back.


Date: 2008/04/25 14:23:22, Link
Author: ERV
Just read the complaint against Premise by Yoko.

Its beautiful.

Did you all know EMI is in on the suit too?

I didnt know that.

*wipes away tears of joy*

Date: 2008/04/26 20:02:19, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (didymos @ April 26 2008,19:09)
But, per Dembski:

"So, for our culture's secular elite, a film that shows how Christianity 'culminated in the Holocaust' constitutes cutting-edge cultural commentary."

I *love* it when WAD talks about The Elite.

He has the velvety smooth, lily white hands of a mathematician.

But he doesnt actually *work*--Hasnt published shit in math, and boy teaches *one* night class a week in 'theology' or something stupid like that.

But boy gets paid just short of $10,000 to blither on about biology for an hour.

'Secular' elite?


Date: 2008/04/28 07:10:58, Link
Author: ERV
So at about 4 am this morning, ERV was deleted.

Not by me.


Um, so, like, if any of you are familiar with Google/Bloggers Denyse O'Leary-like web of links for 'help' and knows a shortcut for contacting Google directly, Id be most obliged.

Date: 2008/04/28 07:31:10, Link
Author: ERV
I was going to wait until school was over to move to SciBlogs, but now Im going to ASAP.  I wouldnt have deleted my goddamn Blogger ERV, though-- I want my old posts!

But it will give me a place to write while Im dealing with the Google Help link farm. :P

Date: 2008/04/28 13:25:39, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (christophersisk @ April 28 2008,12:36)
My Google Reader has all ERV posts saved. I can move them all into an online word document.

Would love, of course (as long as its no trouble-- you copy/pasting for 5 hours is not 'no trouble').

Ive recovered most of my posts, thanks to AtBCers, Pharyngulites, and other well wishers, so I can repost them eventually :)

Thanks everybody!!

Date: 2008/04/28 17:40:52, Link
Author: ERV
Blogspot ERV is back thanks to Mark at 'Good Math, Bad Math'.

And I mean thanks to Mark.

My blog got flagged as 'spam' and Google just deleted it.

(I vented to poor Mark) Im like, when the hell were they planning on telling *me* that?  Its BLOGGER.  Run by GOOGLE.  Who also runs GMAIL.  Like my GMAIL account I used to register at BLOGGER.  Why the hell couldnt they email my bluesky account and be like 'Dude, you a bot?'  Or maybe even click on my goddamn blog and be like 'Oh! This isnt spam.  She posts and has active commenters.'


Thank you thank you thank you Mark, but so long and thanks for all the fish, Blogger.

Date: 2008/05/01 17:14:06, Link
Author: ERV
Blogger just emailed to apologize.

It was a nice little note, and he wanted to assure me that it was an algorithm that deleted me, not a human.

I gave him a few suggestions for how to help bloggers.

We are cool now.

Date: 2008/05/01 18:19:30, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 01 2008,18:02)
William Dembski
5:10 pm
ungtss: You’re new to this blog. We’ve seen past incarnations of Uthan here. There are plenty of places on the internet for them, but not here. I’m sorry if you think this unfair, but this blog is my playground.

Well, that explains the toys thrown out of the pram.


When I confronted him at OU about his blog, he distanced himself from it.  It wasnt 'his' playground, other people ran it for him.

WAD has reclaimed the sandbox.

Date: 2008/05/02 15:11:17, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ May 02 2008,12:32)
Have the tards weighed in on the Anti-Defamation League condemning the movie?


Just from one DI 'fellow'.  We still have to wait for the official press release.

Date: 2008/05/03 13:02:20, Link
Author: ERV
The rules of SciBlogs say I cannot.  They want first dibs on our posts, and if they cant, then we can only cross post (say I write something for WIRED, or a megacomment here, or an old post at ERV) a few times a week.

And, I have a lot of major links to the ERV blog, not to the new SciBlog, so I wont ever delete it.  ERV blog still gets lots of hits on Dembskis theft post, 'Hello Michael Behe', and others.  Dont want to break their links.

Date: 2008/05/04 17:17:00, Link
Author: ERV
No more updates on Box Office Mojo?

Is there another source for the EXPELLED $$$ numbers?

Date: 2008/05/06 12:23:26, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 06 2008,06:44)
Your California provincialism is showing along with your ignorance. ISU has a strong physics department, even if you have never been there (or maybe because you have never been there). Did you stop to think (of course not!) that your low opinion of the place, if true, makes it even more pathetic that Gonzalez couldn't get tenured there?

Poo pooing midwest schools is a sure-fire way to show your ignorance on a topic.  Wisconsin is a top school for virology research.  Alabama was the birthplace of all great HIV researchers (everyone in the HIV research world did their PhD or a post-doc there).

People bitch to me "Why didnt you go to Haaaarvard?  Y R U in Oklahooooma?"

Um, cause OK is in the Top 10 micro departments in the country, has a wonderfully low cost of living, I get a ton of attention from my professors (they arent assholes), its a very cooperative environment... But its not Harvard so it cant be a good school *rolleyes*

Date: 2008/05/06 15:06:03, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Stephen Elliott @ May 06 2008,14:21)
Quote (didymos @ May 06 2008,01:23)
Dave's being rational again.  I quote his post in full:


6 May 2008
Bass Ackwards Darwinism

There are people who believe that because Darwin provided a theoretical basis that humans and animals have a common ancestor it becomes a rationale for treating humans more like animals. Thus we get things like Nazi Germany and the holocaust.

I suppose that’s one way of looking at it.

Another equally valid way of looking at it is that common ancestry becomes a rationale for treating animals more like humans. Thus we get things like People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

It’s all a matter of how you choose to look at it. It’s really more a reflection on your own soul which way you choose to see it.

Good people do good things. Evil people do evil things. Knowledge (like Darwinian evolution and the recipe for dynamite) is inanimate and can be employed by good people for good things and evil people for evil things.

He's not gonna let this one go. Too bad his tenacity isn't put to better use more often. Of course, it's just wasted on the crowd over there on occasions like this.

WTF is going on with this? Has D-T finally woken up and realised that he surrounded by eejits? This is strange.

This is the first time that I have noticed Dave argue with evidence/reason.

Dave appears to be pro-PETA.

Hes had a chip on his shoulder since a TARD fight a few months ago.

Date: 2008/05/06 16:05:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ May 06 2008,15:59)
Official numbers are in.  Expelled did $100 per theater yesterday ($66,000).

See more here

They should be announcing a DVD soon.

They are legally barred from making a DVD, remember?

At least until the Yoko suit plays out.

Date: 2008/05/12 10:58:34, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 12 2008,08:52)


Judge Jones Flash animation voice : Dembski
Gloppy: Marks
Fuzzy dog turd in my garden : Sal



These design detectives aren't very good. If you can't even *hide* design, you've got bugger all chance of finding it.

PS - we didn't even use the EF  ;)

We also figured out the 'Dick-Dawk' animator was Edmondson.

Date: 2008/05/12 21:10:32, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 12 2008,19:45)
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 12 2008,11:45)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 10 2008,09:19)
Now THAT is some proper Nixplanatory formating. Very important in this fallen age.

Bill - Given your incredible success with the Nixplanitory filter, The evil atheist overlords have ask me to offer you:

PROJECT 404: Threads that are no more


What did I just accept?

404s will be harder to track - no mere perusal of fossils embedded in the tard pits will do. Google caches can't be relied upon. Routine snapshots of UD will be needed to recover the text of 404'd threads for posteriority.

I has a hint for you, brave elf prince:
After 'The Adventure of the Disappearing ERV', I found that Yahoo cache is superior to that of Google.

Thats also how I found Marks recent 'letter from Iowa'.

Date: 2008/05/20 12:12:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Zachriel @ May 20 2008,10:47)
Joy has a suggestion.

Joy: Hmmm… maybe Bilbo should re-name this the "Joy of Tard" thread?

Or we could just take up the suggestion and rename this blog "Telic Tards" or "Tardic Thoughts."

Joy gives AtBC a love-tap.


I laughed HARD at that!

Unfortunately, I was eating cottage cheese with cayenne pepper at the time... painful to snort...

Date: 2008/05/23 22:48:17, Link
Author: ERV
Wait, what?
Expelled has lost money. The company has laid off most staff, and cant at the moment afford a DVD (personal inside info!!)- therefore even less people will see the film

Excuse me? A baking powder? SWEET!

Date: 2008/05/25 10:21:18, Link
Author: ERV
Same thing with Behe regarding HIV-1 evolution.  Ian Musgrave and I invited him to a neutral blog set up specifically for us to debate him.

Didnt show up.

Behe also wouldnt debate me live.

Date: 2008/05/29 22:06:34, Link
Author: ERV
No, its still around here in the OK area.

Date: 2008/05/30 12:45:38, Link
Author: ERV
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Date: 2008/05/30 15:21:02, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (J-Dog @ May 30 2008,13:18)
Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Are you sure it's for the Tard???

or could it be this hawt sexy brain-dead pastor?

I know.  Its like "Why are all these men getting their pictures taken in front of my 3rd grade class pic backdrop?"

Where do you even GET a pic like that after the 11th grade???

Date: 2008/06/15 17:58:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (keiths @ June 15 2008,12:50)
Behe gets moved to the clearance rack at Amazon:
The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism by Michael J. Behe (Hardcover - Jun 5, 2007) - Bargain Price
Buy new: $28.00 $6.99

LOL!  Fail.

September 2006, God Delusion hardcover,  $27
June 2008, God Delusion hardcover, $16.20

June 2007, Edge of Evolution hardcover,  $28
June 2008, Edge of Evolution hardcover, $6.99

Date: 2008/06/15 18:05:13, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 15 2008,14:07)
Hey, check out the cover of Bill's last book there! Bill's doing a product tie-in with Ben Stein!

You know, that hip and edgy thing that the kids dig these days.

That was the title of his presentation at OU last fall.  Even the theists were unsatisfied, and the undergrads gutted him.  Why he made the decision to turn that crappy presentation into a book, who knows.

btw-- Amazon has already cut the price of the OP book almost $3, and its not even out yet.

Date: 2008/06/22 09:09:32, Link
Author: ERV
heh. Kevin still reads AtBC.

Ive deleted two comments on my blog(s) in the past two years.  They were threats, and I saved the IP#s, printed them off for the cops, and moved along.

Ive never deleted an 'off topic' post.

Why do you hate freedom so much, Kevin?

Date: 2008/06/22 17:11:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ June 22 2008,10:51)
ERV: Now you're sounding just like George Bush. Are you going to accuse me of being part of Al Qaeda next?

Retard, I was giving examples of the two times I have had to delete comments, contrary to your "I am merely deleting all off-topic comments and blatant thread hijacks" "All scientists want science to remain on topic, including those who support Intelligent Design" comments which attempted to imply that 'scientist' bloggers delete comments they dont like 'just like you'.

I dont.

Ive only deleted/'not approved' two posts*.  Ever.  And I get a hellovalot more hits/comments than you.  If I can handle it, you can.

*which occurred long before you crapped out 'EXPELLED', Mr. Center of the Universe.

Date: 2008/06/22 20:17:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 22 2008,19:51)
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ June 22 2008,19:48)
ERV: You called me a retard? I thought elementary school was out for the year.

Reengineering the argument regarding design?


Can I keep him?  Please?? I promise Ill feed him and water him and play with him every day, honest mister!

Date: 2008/06/22 21:17:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (stevestory @ June 22 2008,20:26)
LOL. ERV is definitely invited to the 2008 Doverlicious Dovetacular Drinkathon or whatever the hell we're calling it.

Depends on if I can find a boarder for Kevin.  Doggie Daycare takes pit bulls, so Arnies fine, but I dunno what their policy is on Creationists.  They might not have someone on-site to clean up the Creationists steaming piles of crap 24/7.

Quote (raguel @ June 22 2008,21:00)
Given the above and the part MWT quoted earlier, Kevin is honoring the amusing creationist tradition of linking to articles that directly contradicts his point. /bow

Well, everybody makes mistakes.  Read an article too fast or whatever.  What makes Creationists distinct is that they will never, ever, EVER say "Oops.  My bad. Sorry."

Date: 2008/06/22 21:27:14, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ June 22 2008,19:48)
ERV: You called me a retard? I thought elementary school was out for the year.

So lets get this straight--
Me calling you a retard because you cant follow a simple conversation=WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO ME **SQUUEEEEE!!**
You (a retard) calling me (an HIV-1 and cancer researcher) a Nazi=PARADIGM SHIFT!

God damn youre retarded!  LOL!  A masochistic retard, but hell, everyone has their kinks.  You go girl.

Date: 2008/06/23 10:50:01, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 23 2008,10:05)
All off-topic comments and thread hijacks will be deleted from now on, no matter how praiseworthy. In addition, all comments will be held for approval prior to posting.

It's odd how all the blogs peddling lies simply can't have an open comment policy.

Yet your comments here appear without delay.

You'd think that it would be the other way round. After all it's the "Darwinists" that are suppressing you right? If that were true then every "Darwinist" blog would moderate all comments before they appear. Yet it only seems to be your side that does so.

How very very odd.

Maybe somebody should make a film about it?

In the past 2 months, Ive gotten ~5 times as many comments as Kev.

Yet somehow, I can handle open comments, and he cant.  But I suppose I am a Nazi, so I guess Im just good at organizing things.  And I suppose I do just gas dissenters instead of deleting their comments.  That might be a factor.

Date: 2008/06/25 08:09:27, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 25 2008,06:39)
Cryogenic ampules?!

I haven't done lab work for a few years.  Is this the new name for a polythene tube that can withstand -80C?

No.  Theyre called cryovials.

Date: 2008/06/25 12:26:43, Link
Author: ERV
Ben Steins involvement with EXPELLED is mutating.

I recall a few months ago, he was persuaded to join the PREMISE crew by an animation of the inner workings of a cell...  Wonder what happened to that story?

Date: 2008/06/25 12:48:59, Link
Author: ERV
Anyone have the text of the third letter to Lenski?  CP is down again.

Date: 2008/06/28 20:56:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Texas Teach @ June 28 2008,20:44)
That's exactly the model the IDers are using.  Don't you remember how astronomers used to insist we teach the existence of Pluto to students for all those centuries, because eventually we'd find it?

My name for this argument is 'The super magic maybe machine argument'.

You make something up (eg humans have auras).  Then when people call BS on you, you proclaim that one day technology will PROVE you are right, just like we didnt know Pluto existed until we had better telescopes.

Futuristic super magic maybe machine is not evidence for a Designer.

Date: 2008/07/04 14:47:50, Link
Author: ERV
1-- Schlafly cant 'sue' Lenski.  Lenski doesnt 'own' his data, nor is he in control of who he can send data/samples to.  Michigan State owns that material.  Thus, Schlafly will have to 'sue' Michigan State.

2-- I, nor anyone else in research, is required to 'send our data' to anyone, on demand.  Our institution can send samples to another institution (or industry) via material transfer agreements.  Schlafly is neither a university or a private research industry, thus no one is going to send him anything.

3-- E. Coli require the approval of environmental health and safety.  They would not approve the shipment of experimental bacteria to Schlaflys home refrigerator.

4-- Example: Someone has generated a mouse line we want.  They have published on it, and are required to 'give' the mouse line to us if our uni asks.  That individual is under no obligation to spend time/money/resources on 'giving' us the mice.  If they have to hire someone to rederrive the line from embryos we have to pay for that.  Thus, if Schlafly wants every last bit of data from Lenski, Schlafly must pay for the salary of any necessary help, all the reagents, supplies, space, etc.  I doubt he has that kind of bread.

Conclusion, Schlafly is an idiot.  But we already knew that.

Date: 2008/07/05 15:18:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 05 2008,14:09)
Grandpa, tell us the one about JanieBelle.  That's my favorite.

Did Tyler tell you what happened to him when his girlfriend found messages from JanieBelle on his blog?

Date: 2008/07/05 21:17:09, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 05 2008,20:25)
Quote (ERV @ July 05 2008,16:18)
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 05 2008,14:09)
Grandpa, tell us the one about JanieBelle.  That's my favorite.

Did Tyler tell you what happened to him when his girlfriend found messages from JanieBelle on his blog?

uh, no, actually.  He musta forgot.

*scurries off to Tyler's place*

Oh it was awesome!  She was mad because she thought he was flirting with some online hussy, and then Tyler had to explain the whole story to her, so shes not mad anymore, but she thinks hes weird(er).


The only thing that would make this funnier is if Tylers girlfriend ended up running off with Janie.

Date: 2008/07/09 12:00:37, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ptaylor @ July 08 2008,19:10)
Calling R Bill, calling R Bill; we have a bannination in progress:


15 DaveScot

07/08/2008 6:17 pm


We have gross models of gravity that permit us to predict trajectories of projectiles with considerable accuracy. Similarly, we have gross models of evoluton.

You really lost the plot there. NDE predicts nothing. Look at poor Dr. Lenski and his 20 years and 40,000 generations of E.coli. He couldn’t predict jack diddly squat about what or when (if anything) was going to happen to them in the way of evolving. All he could do was watch, wait, then when and if something did happen he could explain it after the fact.

You had better a get a clue pretty quick or you’re history here.

On second thought, get lost. That was just too stupid to tolerate.

Save this comment for a couple of years.  It will make one of my publications really, really funny (hint: I use principles of evolution to predict things).


Date: 2008/07/10 18:53:31, Link
Author: ERV
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 10 2008,15:44)
Dear Mike T.:

Please tell your Uncommon Dissent pals that I am listed at, but under J Kwok. Have at least one, possibly two, citations there.


Posted by: John Kwok | July 10, 2008 3:13 PM

You guys really know how to search for stuff.FAIL indeed. Twats.

edit: yes!

But just so we are all perfectly clear-- I am PISSED OFF at you all for turning that thread into 'HAR HAR KWOK IS DUMB'

Heddle-- We went over this shit with Kwok.  You are a fucking dick.

Date: 2008/07/10 21:19:01, Link
Author: ERV
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (dheddle @ July 10 2008,20:02)
Quote (ERV @ July 10 2008,18:53)
Heddle-- We went over this shit with Kwok.  You are a fucking dick.

You put up the post. You allow comments. Some creepy dude who thinks you are Jodie Foster and he is John Hinckley spouts psychotic garbage and I (and then others) called him on it. You've got no case. Get over it.

Heddle, you have never left a comment on my blog that actually contributed to discussion.  Never.  This blog, or the old one.  Youre just a dick.

John is an odd commenter on my blog and I can deal with it.

*You* posted on my blog for the sole purpose of being a little shit.  Those are the *only* times you post on my blog.  And now a previously fun, light hearted thread is full of shit.

Thanks.  Now fuck off.

Date: 2008/07/11 11:17:31, Link
Author: ERV
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (keiths @ July 10 2008,22:33)
Imagine if Dembski had shown up on your blog spouting the kind of nonsense that Kwok did today.  We all would have skewered him, and rightly so.  Why should the standards be different just because Kwok is on "our side" of the ID debate?

keiths, ask yourself when I last supported someone just because they were on 'our side'.  Have I ever done that?

Does it make sense that I would be doing it now?

You think maybe I have reasons for doing things that you dont know about, and just might not be any of your business?


Date: 2008/07/15 06:49:09, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Principia @ July 15 2008,06:17)
Those us who have dealt with MG/JT in the past know these "good-bye"s are merely ego-boosting affairs so that his sycophants can tell him how much they love him.  The psychology of someone like MG is such that he cannot escape this medium, as it allows him to be larger, more Messianic, than his real life ego.  Consider, he's been at this since the 80s, through college, grad school, post-doc, and now part-time faculty.  He's "quit" in the past, first from, then from the ASA boards, then from ARN...  Now TT.  Each time he returns, on the order of months.  What's changed.  His father's death?  Oh come on.  I especially love the bit about his children being proud of his Internet activities.  "Daddy, why did you have to hide behind a fake name?"  LOL.  Sappy.  Just sappy.

Just like SAL 'retired' to 'focus on his studies'.  That worked out well.

Date: 2008/07/16 08:19:33, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 16 2008,06:30)
Denyse finds her twin:

Denyse O'Leary appears to have opened up a fresh new vein of tard.  Said tard is named Susan Mazur and she works for something called "Scoop", which is some kind of journalism outfit in New Zealand.
But the scientific community has known for some time that natural selection has nothing to do with evolution.  It also knows that self-organization is real, that is, matter can form without a genetic recipe – like the snowflake (non-living). It does this without external guidance.

     And that the Hydra (living), for example, can self-assemble its scattered cells even after being forced through a sieve. Yet, science elites continue to term self-assembly and self-organization "woo woo".
I don't actually think that science is ignorant of snowflakes and I'd hardly call the Hydra's putting itself back together again "self organization", since that term is reserved for non-living things and Hydras are made of living cells.  We're gradually learning about the chemical attractors and gradients that help cells assemble.        
Some of the Altenberg 16 or A-16, as I like to call them, have hinted that they’re trying to steer science in a more honest direction, that is, by addressing non-centrality of the gene.
 You can see how Denyse couldn't possibly resist raw uncut tard like this.  (By the way, science says the genes are central because it somehow missed "morphology", according to Ms Mazar.        
Meanwhile, Swedish cytogeneticist Antonio Lima-de-Faria, author of the book Evolution without Selection, sees any continuance of the natural selection concept as "compromise". He says Darwinism and neo-Darwinism deal only with the biological or "terminal" phase of evolution and impede discovery of the real mechanism, which is "primaeval" – based on elementary particles, chemical elements and minerals (Chapter 6, "Knight of the North Star").
This is multiple-orgasm stuff for a certain Toronto based Journalist.

Mazur is an idiot.  Weve been dealing with her for months.

Thats who PZ and I were talking about on BloggingHeads (epigenetics).

Date: 2008/07/16 22:29:52, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ July 16 2008,18:54)
<snip gar skull>

Dang.  I saw those pics and huffed off to find a pic of a gar skull, and then afarensis already done it.

FtK does not fish.

Date: 2008/07/21 06:32:29, Link
Author: ERV
Good god!  Dave Scot is on his knees, licking my boots, begging me to spank him.

Janie!  What did you do to that boy???

Date: 2008/07/26 13:49:53, Link
Author: ERV

But your skull just looks like a fish skull to me.

Date: 2008/08/11 09:11:31, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 11 2008,07:05)
No need to wait, lcd.  They've already got one.

That's the one with the transitional fossil in it, and that fossil succinctly, eloquently, and unequivocally should tell you all you need to know about the "science" of Intelligent Design.

No, they have two textbooks.  Dont forget Dembski @ Co. are bumbling thieves, as well as lying sacks of shit.

Date: 2008/08/12 11:33:20, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Aug. 12 2008,10:24)
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 11 2008,21:28)
Davey is hanging on our every word here:
Message for “Maya”:  In regard to your demand that I debate you in a neutral forum I’ll do that right after Barbara Forrest agrees to debate Bill Dembski in a neutral forum.

Two words: Dover trial.

Funny-- Behe was invited numerous times to 'debate' me on the topic of HIV-1 evolution in a variety of formats.  He told all of those invitors to fuck off.

How very very odd!

Date: 2008/08/13 17:53:16, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 13 2008,13:19)
Sorry to shock you all, but the Biologic Institute has released its latest piece of research.  Or rather Gonzales has written a piece claiming that a new paper shows he was right.

Errr, that's all.

Um... thats just from Privileged Planet.  heh 'new'.

Date: 2008/08/24 18:42:05, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (bystander @ Aug. 24 2008,17:49)
It's even worse if we compare the two

uncommon descent v science blogs

Waterloo, Darwinism is definitely crumbling.

If you switch it from 'All Regions' to US only, you cant even see a red line.  lol.

Date: 2008/08/25 22:43:28, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 25 2008,19:57)
Like a cat spotting a disabled mouse, Erv sees a new Casey Luskin post and thinks NOM NOM NOM!

I made that post in between time-points in the experiment Im running today-- I cant believe it makes any sense... LOL!

Date: 2008/08/25 22:44:58, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 25 2008,20:01)
"successor as head atheist"???

Head atheist?

Is that like the leader of all those what don't collect stamps?

I dont want to be the head atheist.  I want to be the boob atheist!  YAAAAAAY!!!! *claps giddily*


I have got to go to sleep......

Date: 2008/08/30 17:52:31, Link
Author: ERV
Not evilution, precisely, but ScienceDebate2008 answers from Obama!


Date: 2008/09/24 09:29:12, Link
Author: ERV
FTKTARD-- Also, Wes, along with everyone else I have ever talked to in these hard core Darwinist forums *refuses* to contact creationists like Walt Brown.  Now, truth be told I think you’re all a bunch of pussies due to the fact that you can’t confront one measly creationist.  You act as if it’s beneath you or that you don’t have the time to go back and forth with someone whom you believe has everything wrong.  YET, some of you seem to have hours upon hours to sit in this forum and banter with a 43 year old mother of 2 who is neither a scientist nor much of an intellect at all, for Gods sake.   Get off your high horses and start communicating respectfully with your opposition.

Huh.  Ive offered to debate Behe 'live' on the evolution of HIV-1 about a dozen times.  In a variety of formats, with a variety of moderators, his turf my turf neutral turf-- he tells the moderators to fuck off.  Its beneath him to debate me.  I believe DaveTard said those words exactly, somewhere: I am 'beneath' Behe.  He is too important to debate evolution with a measly student.

Do you want me to ask him to debate me on BloggingHeadsTV?  Make it a nice Behe-bakers-dozen of 'no'?

Date: 2008/09/24 10:08:00, Link
Author: ERV
So Im an HIV-1 and cancer researcher, and Im 'below' Walt Brown, Michael Behe, etc.

But everyone at AtBC wont debate Walt Brown, Behe, et all because they are 'below us', even though we have offered to debate them.

You make so much sense.

Date: 2008/09/24 10:51:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 24 2008,10:31)
Quote (ERV @ Sep. 24 2008,10:08)
So Im an HIV-1 and cancer researcher, and Im 'below' Walt Brown, Michael Behe, etc.

But everyone at AtBC wont debate Walt Brown, Behe, et all because they are 'below us', even though we have offered to debate them.

You make so much sense.

Don't you even pull that shit for one second.  You read my get my point.  Grow up.  Seriously.   This has nothing to do with you being "below" them, it has everything to do with your horrific, immature attitude.

That attitude + your prominent display of the scarlet A and all your other atheist ranting makes you look like an immature atheist who's raging at theists you don't understand rather than a professional scientist interested in getting to the truth about our origins.  

If you want to keep playing bash the creationist at your blog, that's fine by me.  But, don't *ever* expect any one of your opponents to give you the time of day.

So I cant tell someone they are dead wrong about the evolutionary capabilities of HIV-1, even though I am a (relative) expert on HIV-1.  Thats rude.

But Behe/Creationists/you can call me a Nazi.  You can say I have no 'morals'.  You can say Im 'immature' and uninterested in finding 'The Truth™', even though Im the one actively researching the place of viruses in the origin of life on this planet, and trying to cure cancer and AIDS 'on the side', while you (and Walt, and Behe) do absolutely nothing to improve the quality of life of organisms living on this planet.

But *they* 'wont give me the time of day', because Im below them.  And I wont debate them because they are 'below me', even though I have offered to debate them.

Thank you-- This is making even more sense now.

Date: 2008/10/06 21:22:28, Link
Author: ERV
Speaking of abiogenesis-- This past weekend I got to witness a fight on that very topic between Susanna Manrubia and Valerian Dolja.  Me and Marco were cheering on Susanna (Valerian was dead the second he brought up astrophysics).

We were all eating Tex-Mex.

Date: 2008/10/08 10:08:03, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 08 2008,07:38)

Governor, I own a pit bull: I sleep next to a pit bull every night; A pit bull is my best-est friend on this planet. Governor, you're no pit bull.

Date: 2008/10/11 08:39:38, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 08 2008,15:02)
Religulous earned about a hundred thousand more in its first weekend than did Expelled, though it opened in less than half the number of theaters. It has a "Rotten Tomatoes" rank of 65%, compared to Expelled's 8%. It appears to have made back the production cost of $2.5 million in its first weekend. We have no idea whether Expelled even earned back its production and distribution costs yet, since no one seems willing to say just how much those cost, definitively.

Dont forget-- Religulous is also rated R, not 'bring the whole family' PG like EXPELLED.

That being said, the theater last night was full.  Not Harry-Potter-packed, but full.  The audience ranged from teenagers to elderly couples (there were quite a few elderly couples-- it was so goddamned cute).

Religulous was nice.  I give it a solid B.

Date: 2008/10/12 18:32:47, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 12 2008,14:36)
Phillip J. Berg and The October Surprise

Some newspapers following this:

Dallas Examiner 10/12/08: Where’s Obama’s proof of citizenship?...

DaveTard, the "Dallas Examiner" (complete with graphic of Dallas) becomes "The Cleveland Examiner" (actually " Cleveland," complete with Cleveland skyline graphic) when viewed from a northern Ohio IP address. It's not a newspaper at all, dumbass; it's a fucking blog entitled "The Right Side Political Examiner" that detects the IP from which you access it and disguises itself accordingly. Just the sort of high quality source you admire.


I didnt know DaveTard was in Dallas!!!

He and I can go shopping next time I make an IKEA run!!!

Date: 2008/10/20 16:23:14, Link
Author: ERV
lol!  Ive tried it at a few IPs with different answers (tried yes, no, and maybe)-- 50-25-25, 57-14-29 with all of them.


Date: 2008/10/21 22:03:54, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (khan @ Oct. 21 2008,16:38)
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 21 2008,12:33)
And for a limited time when you order this bundle we will include free copies of the three of the best selling Intelligent Design documentaries: Unlocking the Mystery of Life, Privileged Planet, and The Case for Creator. Normally this bundle would retail for $125
$ 125? At Amazon you will get the collection for $ 61.96. If you choose to get the NEW Rewards Visa® Card you will even get the "SUPER BUNDLE" for only $31.96.

Is there any conceivable reason why I would desire to possess such?

Dude, you cant shop worth crap.

Date: 2008/10/23 21:41:16, Link
Author: ERV
EXPELLED is on Netflix.  You can watch it online.

Also, Kahlua now comes in French Vanilla.

Date: 2008/10/27 10:58:10, Link
Author: ERV
I watched EXPELLED this weekend.


That was just awful.

If it were 5 minutes longer I would have shot myself in the head.


Date: 2008/11/05 18:39:51, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 05 2008,17:07)
Quote (Nerull @ Nov. 05 2008,16:52)
Graph showing the shift in voting since 2004:

Dang!  Kansas looks bad enough, but I guess I'm not moving to Arkansas anytime soon!

What's up with that? The '04 election didn't have any Arkansas governors in the race...

Can anyone find the source of that graph?  DK dude just linked to the NYT website  ???

Date: 2008/11/05 19:57:42, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 05 2008,19:38)
I saw it referenced to the NY Times:

Two varients at DailyKos that are linked to the Times:

LOL I know that!  I wanted to see the source and bigger pics :)  Those maps are itty bitty.

Date: 2008/11/09 18:50:01, Link
Author: ERV
Went to see Religulous again today (different group of atheist friends hadnt seen it yet).

There were >30 people.

On a Sunday at noon.

In Oklahoma.

Over a month after it came out.


Date: 2008/11/10 11:13:16, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (JLT @ Nov. 10 2008,08:26)
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Nov. 10 2008,12:41)

Is this close enough? Ricky Sternberg published about biological information:


DNA codes and information: formal structures and relational causes.Sternberg RV.
Biologic Institute, Redmond, WA 98052, USA.

Recently the terms "codes" and "information" as used in the context of molecular biology have been the subject of much discussion. Here I propose that a variety of structural realism can assist us in rethinking the concepts of DNA codes and information apart from semantic criteria. Using the genetic code as a theoretical backdrop, a necessary distinction is made between codes qua symbolic representations and information qua structure that accords with data. Structural attractors are also shown to be entailed by the mapping relation that any DNA code is a part of (as the domain). In this framework, these attractors are higher-order informational structures that obviate any "DNA-centric" reductionism. In addition to the implications that are discussed, this approach validates the array of coding systems now recognized in molecular biology.

Biological Institute is much more active than ISCID!Thanks to the anonymous commenter in my blog for tipping me on this.

Is this close enough?

The impact factor of the Journal is 0.881 which means that no one ever reads or cites it.
This won't get better after Sternberg's article was published.

From his "conclusions":

Finally, this structural realist view permits the role of DNA to be completely rethought in two radical ways. For some time now both structuralist and developmental systems-like interpretations of the gene have held that DNA encodes a protein’s primary structure but not its secondary or tertiary structures (e.g., Goodwin 2001; Kjosavik 2007). In this way, so it seems, biological form is emancipated from genomic “information.” Yet this distinction is suspect. For one thing, there is a connection between the linear sequence of amino acids (codons) and protein folding (Ofran and Margalit 2006). If this connection did not exist it would seem hardly possible to be able to predict protein higher-order foldings from amino acid strings—but this is done everyday. For another, causal links have been established between ORF signatures and protein secondary/tertiary configurations (Biro 2006; Gu et al. 2003). As mentioned, it is already known that ORFs have “multilevel optimization” for a number of codes (Bollenbach et al. 2007; Itzkovitz and Alon 2007) and a “protein-folding code” is not unlikely. But keep in mind that DNA in this framework is both less and more than the “Master Molecule” of popular myth. The mathematical structures that proteins (and RNAs!) are the result of are not “in” a gene. Instead, the DNA sequence is the material platform for the symbol strings that allow information to be accessed. In this sense, then, DNA is less than its Central Dogma interpretation because it is not ontically informational. Yet DNA enables many more code systems that commonly acknowledged and in this way is more than just a collection of codons.

Good grief.

Sounds a bit like the result of a random article generator.

Christ.  I actually read that article.

Quote (faggotry @ Nov. 10 2008,08:26)
]But the comprehensiveness of the Dogma is now known to be illusory, almost a kind of intellectual Potemkin village. Peering behind a façade that is so clean and minimalist in outline, a façade that would be marred by such baroque excrescences as holism, the conceptual edifice can be found to have neither foundation, nor walls, nor a roof. The foundation is missing because of the inability of DNA to act, to send RNA, even metaphorically. The walls are missing because of the notable absence of the cell, the very context that makes any information flow possible. And the roof is missing because open to the theoretical sky is the problem of how protein production alone gives rise to ontogenies and homologies. Realizing the explanatory flatness of the Dogma, some have relegated the DNA ? RNA ? protein scheme to secondary or tertiary importance with respect to theories of development (Goodwin 2001; Newman 2002). Gene regulation, cellular systems, morphogenetic fields, etc. have instead been given pride of place. And in the process of making the Central Dogma peripheral, some as we noted earlier have chosen to either eliminate the notion of DNA “information” altogether, or at least to locate it safely near the theoretical perimeter so as to lessen the conceptual harm it is thought to do (e.g., El-Hani et al. 2006; Moss 2003; Oyama 2000; Waters 2000).

Dont do drugs, children.

Date: 2008/11/12 11:36:29, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 12 2008,06:37)
Dave Webster:
Emphatic non-buttressation of ID

(blah blah blah)

Buttressation? Non-buttressation?

That word is non-utteratational. It doesn't even existinate.

*shrug* 'Non-buttressation' is a perfectly cromulent word.

Date: 2008/11/12 18:58:04, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 12 2008,12:21)
Quote (ERV @ Nov. 12 2008,12:36)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 12 2008,06:37)
Dave Webster:
Emphatic non-buttressation of ID

(blah blah blah)

Buttressation? Non-buttressation?

That word is non-utteratational. It doesn't even existinate.

*shrug* 'Non-buttressation' is a perfectly cromulent word.

Ouch. I've been enlittled.

Dont be depressed!  After Kim Kardashians brief stint at fame, being enlittled is in vogue again.

The fashion industry is kinda going through a butt recession.

Date: 2008/11/17 15:54:06, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 17 2008,14:11)
Quote (Lowell @ Nov. 17 2008,12:57)
it would take up too much of my time to continue effective moderation of the site under relaxed rules.

I don't have any experience at moderating a blog, so maybe this is a stupid question, but why would it be more time-consuming to enforce a "relaxed" moderation policy than a "ruthless" one?

I know Davescot has an impeccable reputation for honesty, so I'm assuming that it's a reasonable excuse.

I don't have such experience either, but it seems plausible to me that in a relaxed moderation setup, the moderator may have to spend more time reading the posts and replies in order to determine what has to be dumped, than he would otherwise.


Its not difficult.

I delete maybe 1 spam comment a month, and you dont even have to register to comment at SciBlogs.

Date: 2008/12/02 20:22:52, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (olegt @ Dec. 02 2008,17:33)
The funniest thing is this: Casey thinks that the book is "aimed at students — perhaps junior high or high school-aged."  The publisher recommends it for ages 9-12.

Life on Other Planets on

I loled at that.  Thanks oleg!

Date: 2008/12/06 16:26:40, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Dec. 06 2008,09:17)
UD has now posted the trailer for Expelled! to promote the DVD, complete with clips plagiarized from the Xvivo animation that were replaced in the theatrical release.

No, thats an old trailer thats been bopping around the biblotard blogs for a while-- pre-theater release.

UD is only eight months behind.

Date: 2009/01/11 17:28:18, Link
Author: ERV
No, if he were just doing it for a job, we would still respect him-- Eg, Michael Edmondson (the Dick-Dawk guy).  I love Edmondson.

XI is just a tool.

Date: 2009/01/14 18:49:44, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (kevinmillerxi @ Jan. 13 2009,21:34)
Hate to burst your little bubble, ERV, but Edmondson was as much a part of the Premise team as anyone. He worked out of the Premise office, he was on the Premise payroll, "Beware the Believers" was overseen by the same producers as Expelled.

*puts on her sunglasses and smiles*

Date: 2009/01/31 14:56:34, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2009,02:26)
Kirk has turned up again. The rubies in the rubbish:

The regions between the fold-set islands are non-folding, produce no phenotypic effect (except for harmful effects if the non-folding proteins begin to clump) and natural selection is of no use whatsoever in guiding the evolutionary trajectory as it random walks across non-folding sequence space.

Of course, the evolutionary trajectory won't go across non-folding sequence space, because of the deleterious fitness effects.


1. You can tunnel through sequence space.  Its called 'tunneling'.

2. Proteins arent static perfect structures.  gp120-gp41 trimers from HIV-1 are constantly moving-- folding, unfolding, kind of folding so they can only bind to one receptor or another, some fold to bind 'perfectly' to CCR5, but not CXCR4, and vice versa, or sometimes it can bind to either coreceptor... What a childish 'argument'-- "I say it cant 'fold right' so I say its useless!"

What is this old man getting his PhD in, again?

Date: 2009/02/01 03:05:08, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 01 2009,02:32)
Quote (ERV @ Jan. 31 2009,14:56)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2009,02:26)
Kirk has turned up again. The rubies in the rubbish:

The regions between the fold-set islands are non-folding, produce no phenotypic effect (except for harmful effects if the non-folding proteins begin to clump) and natural selection is of no use whatsoever in guiding the evolutionary trajectory as it random walks across non-folding sequence space.

Of course, the evolutionary trajectory won't go across non-folding sequence space, because of the deleterious fitness effects.


1. You can tunnel through sequence space.  Its called 'tunneling'.

2. Proteins arent static perfect structures.  gp120-gp41 trimers from HIV-1 are constantly moving-- folding, unfolding, kind of folding so they can only bind to one receptor or another, some fold to bind 'perfectly' to CCR5, but not CXCR4, and vice versa, or sometimes it can bind to either coreceptor... What a childish 'argument'-- "I say it cant 'fold right' so I say its useless!"

What is this old man getting his PhD in, again?

It's only bullshit if you think that across=through.

Durston is saying that the topology of the search space is holey, with many disconnected islands.  He then talks about the evolutionary trajectory taking a random walk across that space, i.e. across the holes.  i.e. it is visiting places that have zero fitness, so that natural selection can't act.

Whether there are large islands depends on how you define the topology of the sequence space.  I guess you and he are defining it so that the only edges (=links) between sequences are changes in a single base.  In that case, no doubt there are islands, but changes involving more than one base can get over these abysses - something I thought was so well known that someone doing a PhD in biophysics would automatically be thinking that way (I assume this is what tunnelling refers to.  I'm feeling lazy and can't be bothered to google it).

I'm prefer to use a topology where the edges are potential mutational steps (whether single site or something bigger).  That would presumably show that there islands are connected, but the rate of transition can vary.

(sorry, I was calling BS on Durp, not you, Bob-- the silly way Creationists talk about 'sequence spaces' and 'fitness landscapes' makes me lol, and I know shit about the 'math' behind them, just what I see in the lab-- one mans 'hole' is another mans 'island', and sometimes a 'hole' and an 'island' are the same thing at the same time... lol!!!)

Date: 2009/02/04 21:27:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 04 2009,16:55)
This February 12th - Darwin Day - will be followed on its heels at the University of Oklahoma by Academic Freedom Day on February 20th. IDEA Club will have a display accompanied by discussion on the South Oval of the OU campus, as well as lectures by John West and Casey Luskin, advocates for intelligent design.

Please let there be photos.

The 'website' you all are linking to has disappeared.

Oh please, PLEASE Baby Jesus, let this be real!!!!


Date: 2009/02/04 21:30:35, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/02/17 12:28:54, Link
Author: ERV
My life, my love, and my lady-- fair Casey Luskin-- will grace Oklahoma with his presence this Friday.  Hes also bringing along John 'Heil Hitler!' West.

Tips?  Tricks?  Bids for a pic of me and lovely Luskin?

Ive got some ideas of my own, but I would like your alls input as well.


Carlson, you gonna be there?

Date: 2009/02/21 00:08:59, Link
Author: ERV
It was the most boring night of my life  (seriously, I was reading papers for work I was so bored) until shit hit the fan.


Bountiful lulz were had.  Casey loves everyone at AtBC.  Also, tits.

Unfortunately, the gays got me drunk, so Im not posting anything until tomorrow.

Also, tits.

Date: 2009/02/21 08:45:04, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/02/21 09:20:24, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 21 2009,09:11)
I take it that Casey didn't bother to mention that when people requested a place to talk about the DI's "Explore Evolution" textbook, Paul Nelson said that he'd check into that on the DI site (which still has nothing in that direction), but I had the thread here at AtBC up within a couple of hours of the request. Compare that with what the DI calls debate, where they post their responses to stuff, but they don't let those other opinions appear using their bandwidth.

Yeah, I was pissed for a minute that night about Casey pulling "ABBIE HATES FREEDOM!" after the shit they pull, but to be in the company of the other people they attacked last night (including you, Wes), its an honor.

I updated the John West post too.  Alas, no tits.

Date: 2009/02/21 16:31:10, Link
Author: ERV
This is great, Carlson!

You were taking great notes, while I was being a crappy student and looking at lolcats to entertain myself... *embarassed*

Date: 2009/02/21 19:13:47, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 21 2009,18:41)
Quote (olegt @ Feb. 21 2009,18:36)
Casey is such a crybaby.  He submits Rob Crowther (his superior at DI) a report entitled Pro-Evolution Blogger Abbie Smith Flipped Me Off on Friday Night, and Here’s the Story.  Rob publishes said report on Evolution News & Views.  

And what was this forgiveness spiel about?  Here's a quote from the talk:
I’m not interested in holding grudges. I’m interested in forgiving so we can all move forward in a spirit of civility! …There Is a Better Way: Free Speech, Civility, and Peaceful Co-Existence in the Academy

Peaceful co-existence, huh?  I thought your  Wedgie Manifesto called for "direct confrontation", no?

More spewing from Casey Cloaca (and yes, Casey, I do hope that you include that in your next presentation about AtBCers insulting poor little you)  
After reviewing some of the problems with the Kitzmiller ruling, my talk focused on the importance of protecting academic freedom. I made the point that Darwinists use a vareity (sic) of tactics to shut down free and open debate on intelligent design (ID) and evolution.

This was posted on a site where comments are not allowed.

You want free and open debate, Casey? Please open comments over there, or come over here.



Date: 2009/02/21 20:20:34, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ Feb. 21 2009,19:46)
I think he has a crush on you - in a heterosexually chaste creepy christian kind of way - because you say tits and let gay people get you drunk. It's the "dangerous boy" syndrome in reverse.

That would explain why he was fidgeting nervously with his wedding ring all night.

Also: MOAR TITS!!!!!

Date: 2009/02/22 14:33:50, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 22 2009,14:16)
Luskin brutalized in yet another venue.


Casey was butthurt over Pennock I think, too.

Youll have to wait for Carlsons good notes :P

Date: 2009/02/22 16:03:16, Link
Author: ERV
I have no idea.  75 people?  100?

I couldnt even guess on the split-- Lots of kids came to say hi to me, but some were OU kids, some were Trinity kids, some were nice older people, some were bitter ass Trinity fogies trying to suck up.  I dunno-- 50-50?  Lots of people clapped after the evilution song, and when Casey announced the academic freedom bill was dead, but lots of people started praising Jesus at the end of Caseys speech.


Date: 2009/02/22 16:20:58, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 22 2009,16:18)
Quote (bystander @ Feb. 22 2009,15:25)
What was the crowd like? Was it a sellout? Was the crowd pro ID?

The room capacity was stated at 173 and I'd estimate it at 2/3 full. So call it 100-120.  I didn't get a sense of the breakdown between pro and anti.  For the most part, everyone was well behaved and respectful.  Well, there was this one chick.......

Date: 2009/02/22 19:03:07, Link
Author: ERV
It wasnt really like that.

I was just bitching at Casey/TrinityAsses for like 5 minutes.  If I had known what post he was referring to (I had my laptop, I should have looked it up to refresh myself), I would have totally River Tamed out.

Date: 2009/02/22 19:06:04, Link
Author: ERV
OH!  Bright side!

Im going to be presenting at our big OK Americans United meeting again this year on the Academic Freedom bills-- And it will be recorded and available on the interwebz!  So even though I didnt get my 'academic freedom' point in, it will actually be available soon to a larger audience.

Tits might make an appearance.

Date: 2009/02/22 20:44:58, Link
Author: ERV
So 'someone' from Seattle is leaving threating (ie you better shut up) and sexist comments on Caseys Butthurt thread.

Who here is good with IP addresses?  I can only get the city.

Date: 2009/02/22 21:14:16, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (ERV @ Feb. 22 2009,20:44)
So 'someone' from Seattle is leaving threating (ie you better shut up) and sexist comments on Caseys Butthurt thread.

Who here is good with IP addresses?  I can only get the city.

Never mind.  The troll is a high school kid.  How sad.

Date: 2009/02/22 21:45:05, Link
Author: ERV
I wanted to say that Dembski quote SO BAD, but youre right, Wests volume (grabbed Carlsons arm as he walked away with the 'right answer', just in case he didnt know it, because I didnt know it was Carlson :P )

Date: 2009/02/22 22:12:10, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 22 2009,21:33)
Quote (ERV @ Feb. 22 2009,19:14)
Quote (ERV @ Feb. 22 2009,20:44)
So 'someone' from Seattle is leaving threating (ie you better shut up) and sexist comments on Caseys Butthurt thread.

Who here is good with IP addresses?  I can only get the city.

Never mind.  The troll is a high school kid.  How sad.

A high school student in Seattle? Better not be one of my kids!

You all already know him.It was this kid.

Actually, Carlson, I was looking for this:

Not kidding. "Ill have a quarterhorse shirt on!" LOL!

Date: 2009/02/22 23:11:32, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 22 2009,23:02)
Not actually a highschooler:
FreedomFighterXL said...

   I guess if people quote me as being 17 (I would go even lower then that but I never go 10 years below my real age when posting on the web, and besides that blogger would prevent me from saying I'm younger than 13), then they must view me as someone of significance if they are willing to look that far into my profile. Glad you're paying attention.

No, hes 17.  I found his friend Trevor on MySpace.  Trevor seemed like a really smart kid, so I just sent him an encouraging message and was like 'Common man, dont troll'.

He didnt know what I was talking about.  F2XL was using his name.  And Trevor is definitely a high school kid, and he IDed F2XL.  Hes going to call him Cindy tomorrow in 2nd period for the lulz.

Hes a high school kid.

Date: 2009/02/23 19:26:43, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 23 2009,17:16)

I just got word of this:

Guys, we are going to OD on TARD.

Thats their plan.

They know we are addicts, and they are targeting us all, one-by-one, for high-doses of irl TARD.

And there is nothing we can do to stop it.


Date: 2009/02/25 19:49:15, Link
Author: ERV
Creationists: SHES A BITCH!

Carlson: Yeah, but shes our bitch.  *cocks gun* So cut her the hell down.

Date: 2009/02/26 19:49:19, Link
Author: ERV
lol I blogged about you Tweeting

Date: 2009/02/26 22:06:34, Link
Author: ERV
Ahhh!  No moar Twitters!  No moar updates!

Lou ODed!

Someone take him to the ER!


Date: 2009/02/27 09:03:44, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Paul Flocken @ Feb. 27 2009,08:31)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 26 2009,23:28)
...the man they had just applauded moments (seemingly hours) before.

Behe definitely made the hours seem like days.  I'll put something together later too.  And if Lou does not object I'll riff off of his notes too.

I KNOW, right?

Of the 3 IDiots Ive seen, all of them have made me just start gnawing my arm off out of boredom (though I admit last week it was partially out of hunger-- no dinner).

I hear so much shit about how 'persuasive' and 'charismatic' Creationists are, but they are just plain dull.  Doverdoverdover, flagellaflagellaflagella, expelledexpelledexpelled, paleypaleypaley, nazinazinazi, darwinismdarwinismdarwinism, gaggaggag, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Date: 2009/02/27 09:08:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 27 2009,08:59)
Amanda Greene at the Star News seems to have a less unfavorable opinion of Behe's talk last night.

Edited to correct the spelling of Ms. Greene's surname.

Holy shit!  Behe looks, like, 85!  What the hell happened to him??

Also-- Thanks Wes!

Date: 2009/02/27 16:50:50, Link
Author: ERV
Do we know The Sensuous Curmudgeon?  Cause his/her response to Caseys bird made me soooo happy :)

Date: 2009/03/01 17:59:25, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 01 2009,16:25)
Judge Jones plagiarizing

If Behe actually used the word plagiarizing then he is not only stupid but stupidly wrong.

Plagiarizing is taking someone's idea and presenting it as your own without citation.

In Jones' ruling he cites the plaintiff's brief, trial transcripts and other sources in nearly every sentence and, in many sentences, multiple times.

Jones drew heavily from the plaintiff's brief and not so much (or at all) from the defense because the plaintiffs were right and the defense was wrong.

Simple as that.

Behe is, once again, engaging in intellectual slander to imply that Judge Jones failed to understand the basis of the case when his brilliantly written opinion clearly demonstrates that he did.

This is exactly what Luskin-rat did too.  "Judge Jones plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized plagiarized... Not that Im saying Judge Jones plagiarized, but he plagiarized."

Date: 2009/03/02 09:31:36, Link
Author: ERV

What a friggen nutbar!

Date: 2009/03/05 14:21:09, Link
Author: ERV
I didnt get a personalized response?!?!

But I helped get Egnor EXPELLED!!!


Date: 2009/03/05 18:00:40, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 05 2009,17:04)
Because I'm such a nice guy I gave Egnor an escape pod:  it was a hoax.

Even if he wrote the thing while stewed he could have taken the pod, done a Dembski "street theater" follow-up and had a few yucks at the expense of the Darwinists who took the bait.

April Fools, 2007.


Date: 2009/03/14 20:57:29, Link
Author: ERV
Didnt know where to put this:
Basically, Dawkins is the nicest guy ever.  He didnt charge OU a penny for speaking here, his reasons are his own.  But he didnt want to toot his own horn (IM SO NICE! LOOK AT THIS CHARITY IM DOING! LOOOOOOK! LOOK AT ME!!!), so we kept it a secret.

But then we found out that several OK legislators, OKC area religious radicals ('pastors'), and none other than Ray Martin, this little piggie lookin kid that brought OUs IDEA club back to life, were filing LAWSUITS to find out who donated the money to bring Dawkins to campus, where Dawkins put the money, etc.  Wonder who gave em that idea?  *flips off Caseyfag again*

Dawkins is such a gentleman.  And Im stuck here with fucking hogs in sport coats.

The lulz.

Date: 2009/03/14 21:01:24, Link
Author: ERV
J-Dog-- I made this a couple years ago for Denialism Blogs 'LOLCreationists':

Date: 2009/03/16 10:34:29, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 16 2009,05:42)
Jeeebus!  I go home for a weekend to visit my sweet, saintly mother and I come back and the world is turned upside down, cats are living with dogs and DaveTard is no longer with UD!

Fine business!

And to make it a perfect weekend, I ran into this great Ray Comfort quote:      
Thanks to Delta airlines, you can now sit back and enjoy pedophilia while you fly in comfort across America. While there are certain passengers who may appreciate it, I don't think I am alone in my convictions when it comes to the sexual exploitation of our children. I don't like it.

Recently Kirk Cameron, I, and my son-in-law Emeal Zwayne, were flying from Atlanta to Los Angeles. Halfway into the flight, Kirk suddenly looked up and said, "What's going on!" We looked up at the more than twenty screens to see what looked like a nine-year-old child sexually gyrating and stripping in front of an adult audience. As we watched in horror, a few of the adults in her audience stood to their feet and began to clap to the music, obviously encouraging her to strip further, which she gladly did.

... Is BananaMan seriously bitching about Little Miss Sunshine?



Date: 2009/03/18 09:36:59, Link
Author: ERV
Isnt this the same person who got into a lot of hot water when he said all atheists are autistic?

Date: 2009/03/26 14:34:34, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 26 2009,14:14)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 26 2009,13:48)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 26 2009,12:38)
ID predicts Casey Luskin will spin this into a victory.

Boo! It was John West:

Texas Board Member Censors Citizen Expression at Board Meeting
Apparently Texas Board of Education member Rick Agosto isn’t just content to censor science by removing any criticisms of evolution from the science curriculum. The San Antonio Democrat even wants to prevent citizens from expressing their disagreement with that censorship. This morning Agosto demanded that some citizens quietly holding signs stating “Don’t Censor Science” at the Board meeting take down their signs. He even called on security personnel to forcibly remove the signs, but Board chair Don McElroy intervened to stop that abuse of power. Agosto’s over-the-top behavior toward non-disruptive attendees at the meeting followed his earlier denunciation of intelligent design as not being based on science. Agosto doesn’t appear to have actually read anything by intelligent design proponents, and his comments attacking intelligent design were completely gratuitous since the Board isn’t even considering adding intelligent design to the science standards. Interestingly, at yesterday’s Board meeting Agosto used his right of personal privilege to bring back non-Texan Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education to speak before the Board. Because Scott spoke at the January meeting, she was supposed to be near the bottom of the speakers’ list yesterday in order to allow new people to testify. But Agosto seems to have been more interested in hearing from arch-Darwinist Scott than hearing from his own constituents or other Texans patiently waiting to testify


The rest of the story, in part:

BREAKING NEWS: A proposed amendment adding “strengths and weaknesses” of scientific theories back to the science standards has failed on a 7-7 vote.

11:17 - With the defeat of “strengths and weaknesses,” the board is now on to other amendments. Ms. Cargill begins.
11:20 Despite Chairman McLeroy’s repeated prohibition against signs in the hearing room (targeted at TFN members quietly holding signs saying things like “Stand Up for Science”), creationists who wanted “strengths and weaknesses” in the standards have brought a couple of bright neon signs to the hearing room today reading:

“Don’t Censor Science”


“No Science Censorship”

Finally, Mr. Agosto requested that Chairman McLeroy ask the creationists to withdraw their signs. He did.


Date: 2009/03/30 21:20:06, Link
Author: ERV
Occasionally I Google 'Behe HIV' to make sure Behe isnt trying to sneak around and talk shit about my buggie-boo again.

This time, I found this post.

Bradford-- Ill tell you the same thing I tell everyone.  I seriously have a stock letter for this in Gmail:
Thank you for your sexual interest in ERV.  Im sorry, but due to the large volume of marriage proposals I receive daily, I can only send personalized responses to letters that include pictures,  preferably nudes.  Thanks again!  And remember, if you can dream it, you can do it!

Date: 2009/03/31 08:10:36, Link
Author: ERV
Do whatever you want, man.  Its the internet :)

Date: 2009/04/17 17:58:05, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/04/21 20:24:20, Link
Author: ERV

Alas tonight Im doing the same thing I do every night... TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!

Date: 2009/04/23 07:53:21, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ April 22 2009,14:36)
Casey Luskin on a roll in Texas.

"teeters and students"

Creationists are such charismatic speakers.

Date: 2009/05/01 11:25:09, Link
Author: ERV
Oh, see, both of us are Tauruses.  It all makes sense now.

Date: 2009/05/04 11:32:26, Link
Author: ERV
Can’t intelligent causes be fully natural?

I dont recall ever seeing a conjunction in a for realsies paper. *shrug*

Also, wtf is this shit?

Computer programs and math and shit?  While its a useful 'model', its all kinda meaningless without measuring actual fitness values in a laboratory.
What search space, for instance, allows for all possible permutations? Most don’t.

Mine does, in a limited way (all permutations of a limited portion of HIV-1 genome).  When technology improves, Ill increase the area.

Thus, one might think that fitness ought to vary gradually with some underlying metric structure on the search space.

I dont see a 'gradual' change in fitness in the slightest.  I see a very rough fitness landscape.

These theorems showed how evolutionary searches, when averaged across fitness functions, did no better at locating targets than blind (or null) search.

Absolute nonsense!  Evolution does 99% of my work for me via differential fitness of randomized nucleotides in set environments.

So what is this shit?  'God' is affinity for CD4?  'God' is the ability to escape neutralizing antibodies?  What?  And while math is useful for things we cannot do in the laboratory, now that we can do things previously confined to math-world, we are doing them to see how they match up with math-models.


Date: 2009/05/04 11:43:09, Link
Author: ERV
I dont know who Orr is:
In reviewing William Dembski’s No Free Lunch, Orr writes,   Consider fitness functions that are as unsmooth as you like, i.e., rugged ones, having lots of peaks and few long paths up high hills. (These are the best studied of all fitness landscapes.) Now drop many geographically separate populations on these landscapes and let them evolve independently. Each will quickly get stuck atop a nearby peak. You might think then that Dembski’s right; we don’t get much that’s interesting. But now change the environment. This shifts the landscape’s topography: a sequence’s fitness isn’t cast in stone but depends on the environment it finds itself in. Each population may now find it’s no longer at the best sequence and so can evolve somewhat even if the new landscape is still rugged. Different populations will go to different sequences as they live in different environments. Now repeat this for 3.5 billion years. Will this process yield interesting products? Will we get different looking beasts, living different kinds of lives? My guess is yes

This is what I do, but I dont have to wait 3.5 billion years.  Orr was right.  Fun!  After I publish, I should send him a cookie.

Date: 2009/05/04 11:45:45, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (sparc @ May 04 2009,11:43)
ERV, I would really appreciate if you could provide the youtube link for that dog in your icon again.

Date: 2009/05/04 13:28:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (creeky belly @ May 04 2009,12:48)
Quote (ERV @ May 04 2009,11:43)
I dont know who Orr is:
In reviewing William Dembski’s No Free Lunch, Orr writes,   Consider fitness functions that are as unsmooth as you like, i.e., rugged ones, having lots of peaks and few long paths up high hills. (These are the best studied of all fitness landscapes.) Now drop many geographically separate populations on these landscapes and let them evolve independently. Each will quickly get stuck atop a nearby peak. You might think then that Dembski’s right; we don’t get much that’s interesting. But now change the environment. This shifts the landscape’s topography: a sequence’s fitness isn’t cast in stone but depends on the environment it finds itself in. Each population may now find it’s no longer at the best sequence and so can evolve somewhat even if the new landscape is still rugged. Different populations will go to different sequences as they live in different environments. Now repeat this for 3.5 billion years. Will this process yield interesting products? Will we get different looking beasts, living different kinds of lives? My guess is yes

This is what I do, but I dont have to wait 3.5 billion years.  Orr was right.  Fun!  After I publish, I should send him a cookie.

The view of a fitness function as a 2D landscape only works in the case where there are a low number of effective selection criteria which are highly correlated. This may be the case, as IANAB, but the concept of finding a stable extrema in higher dimensionality fitness functions has been tackled before by Mark CC. Not faulting Orr here, but I think it's a fallacy to think that the organism must quickly find a maximum for all fitness criteria.

No, I mean Orr is right :) I wasnt being sarcastic :)

Meh I cant say anything without scooping myself.  Make me ignore this topic for a year.

Date: 2009/05/04 19:25:11, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (sparc @ May 04 2009,14:27)
When Dembski worte for SALVO mag he obviously didn't want to put too much effort in it:                
Needle-in-the-haystack problems—where one searches for small targets in large spaces—are common throughout science. With such problems, a blind search stands no hope of success. Success, instead, requires an assisted search. This assistance takes the form of information: Searches require information to be successful.
Think of an Easter-egg hunt where saying "warmer!” or "colder!” indicates that the finder is getting nearer or farther from the eggs. This information, if accurate, greatly speeds the finding of eggs. But where does the required information come from?

To even raise this question is to suggest that successful searches do not magically materialize but need themselves to be discovered via a search. In other words, another level of information is required to determine successful search criteria in the first place.

The important question is whether such a higher-level "search for a search” is ever easier—is simpler or requires less information—than the original search.  

Compare this to his The Search for a Search: Measuring the Information Cost of Higher Level Search he co-authored with Robert Marks:
Many searches are needle-in-the-haystack problems, looking for small targets in large spaces. In such cases, blind search stands no hope of success. Success, instead, requires an assisted search. But whence the assistance required for a search to be successful?

To pose the question this way suggests that successful searches do not emerge spontaneously but need temselves to be discovered via a search.

The question then naturally arises whether such a higher-level “search for a search” is any easier than the original search.

ETA: link to Dembski's SALVO article

Okay, compulsive plagiarism aside (LULZ!), thats how I describe my research to undergrads-- searching for a needle in a haystack, a needle that may or may not exist, in a haystack that contains 2.571x10^61 pieces of hay.  It sounds intimidating, until we just let evolution find the needle for us!

I also use the Ron Popeil Showtime Rotisserie catchphrase-- Set it, and FORGET IT!

I wonder if Im going to crush Dembskis whole world.........?

*shuts up*

Date: 2009/05/06 23:09:45, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Ptaylor @ May 06 2009,21:21)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 07 2009,13:29)
Luskin Lies for Jesus... again. On Faux News.

What a wanker. The only encouraging thing there is the low star ratings and the bulk of the comments - most are not buying Casey's bullshit.

I love it when Casey uses words with 's' in them.

Date: 2009/05/08 07:55:47, Link
Author: ERV
Vincent DeSalvo



Date: 2009/05/10 14:57:56, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 10 2009,13:05)
We can't forget Abbie!

ETA: (because she'd kick our asses)

Im officially a PhD Candidate now (ie they didnt kick me out).  My uni used to let people get their Masters at this step (without really doing anything else) so if you crapped out on your PhD, you wouldnt be SOL.

They dont do that anymore.... :/

Date: 2009/05/12 15:58:38, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2009,15:44)
Meanwhile, I was out and about after my 112 final today and bumped into my prof who was coming into a store as I was going out. He stopped me to let me know I'd gotten an A on the final exam.


Working in TARD mines is good for your biology grades.

It strengthens the haunches.

Date: 2009/05/14 19:50:39, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Joy @ May 14 2009,19:40)
drunkchz homosexual fantasies about antiantievolutionists is the crux of the matter

It's YOUR issue, obviously. I asked yesterday if you guys have something against gays, just trying to parse the psychology here where homo jokes and innuendoes are endemic (I'm fairly used to the reverse psychology on the other 'side').

Date: 2009/05/15 12:51:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (chunkdz @ May 15 2009,12:08)
You see, Wes, you seem to think that I must be fighting for a "cause" or trying to "score" some points or something. Truth is I insult anybody I feel like insulting. On occasion I've ridiculed Dembski, mocked Mike Gene, sent Bradford to the memory hole, and I've even locked horns with my dearest Joy. I'm not out to be part of a team, I'm not your enemy, and I'm not part of your silly culture war.

Or youre just a /b/tard too stupid to survive on /b/, thus nest elsewhere.

Date: 2009/05/18 11:35:56, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 18 2009,08:18)
Quote (Gunthernacus @ May 18 2009,07:44)
A couple more data points on chunkerz' denial of the obvious:
chunkerz at TT, November 24th, 2008

Hi all. I didn't really want to blog about ID. I just wanted a venue to publish my erotic Stargate fan-fiction.

chunkerz at TT, August 23rd, 2007

Here are some sample questions for the extended interview [of Nick Matzke], chosen to stimulate / suppress the widest range of brain activity:
...9)Aren't you really leaving the NCSE because of your failed romance with Wesley Elseberry?

It seems that erotic stories and man-love fantasies are a long standing part of chunkerz' shtick.

Oh. Dear.

Its hard to find that sort of projection outside of Fox News.

What makes you think chunky doesnt work at FOX News?

Date: 2009/05/18 22:53:54, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (dmso74 @ May 18 2009,16:39)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,May 18 2009,14:42)
wow that memes post is really one of the dumbest unclever things i have ever seen on UD.  congrats, Clive, you are somewhat less than I had estimated you.

It seems that a common quality of ID people is to think they're clever when they're really stupid. think of Denyse, WAD's fart jokes, Clive's memes and now that Sternberg piece whose very title made my ears bleed. what, did he think that one stupid unfunny title wasn't enough, or that he didn't want to see one of them go to waste, so he put both of them in with a colon between them? also, the text itself is terrible.

Date: 2009/05/21 20:22:59, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bueller_007 @ May 21 2009,16:05)
Barry thinks so little of the UD regulars that he thinks it necessary to explain the phrase "Hoisted [sic] With His Own Petard".  Then again, seeing as he can't even get the grammar correct ("hoist" is the past tense of "hoise" here, idjit), maybe it's a phrase he just learned himself.

Shapiro Hoisted With His Own Petard?
For “petard” reference see here.

Huh.  Creationists dont watch The Simpsons.

Date: 2009/05/24 12:00:45, Link
Author: ERV
afarensis-- They left because the bitches and white-knights of SciBlogs went one step too far.

Others-- Im fairly certain you dont read the blogs of the bitches and white-knights because they dont really write about science *zips lips*  I just ignore them, and I wish the other sane Sciblings would too.

Date: 2009/05/24 14:04:36, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Louis @ May 24 2009,12:47)
Quote (ERV @ May 24 2009,18:00)
afarensis-- They left because the bitches and white-knights of SciBlogs went one step too far.

Others-- Im fairly certain you dont read the blogs of the bitches and white-knights because they dont really write about science *zips lips*  I just ignore them, and I wish the other sane Sciblings would too.

Oh I'm sorry Abbie (and Afarensis), but your lips need to be unzipped, that post just BEGS for clarification and elaboration. PM me and sate my raging curiosity if public exposure is not your thing.

I know that certain of the SciBorg are....less well thought of than others but I never suspected the rift in the lute really made the music mute for so many.

White knights? Bitches? Oh a tale lies behind that terminology to be sure to be sure.


We are contractually forbidden to talk about back forum stuff.

Its just the same internet drama that has been going on in every forum since the beginning of time: Attention whores, white knights, normal adult humans that put up with that shit because they dont understand the internet, and normal adult humans who dont tolerate bullshit in their internet homes.  Its just internet drama, but unfortunately nice people are taking whore/knight behavior personally instead of mocking them, as internet laws dictate.  Encyclopedia Dramatica should be required reading before anyone has access to the internets, I swear...

Anyway, the bloggers AtBCers know and love are in the latter two groups, and thats because AtBCers are excellent judges of character.  But its just internet drama-- nothing more ominous.


Date: 2009/06/05 12:16:52, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (bort @ June 05 2009,10:07)
Here is a happy coincidence: I wrote a couple days ago defending phylogenetic trees against Casey's attacks.  One way that I showed that phylogenetic trees match other data is by creating a tree based on cytochrome B and comparing it to the ERV data by Lebedev et al 2000 (The one from 29+ evidences of evolution fame).  Unsurprisingly, they matched.  

So I get to part 5 of Casey's evidence-less, quote mined, and prejudiced series of posts, and I found this:

pro-evolution textbooks often tout the Cytochrome C phylogenetic tree as allegedly matching and confirming the traditional phylogeny of many animal groups. This is said to bolster the case for common descent. However, evolutionists cherry pick this example and rarely talk about the Cytochrome B tree, which has striking differences from the classical animal phylogeny.

I about fell out of my chair when I read this.  He references some 1999 paper from Trends in Ecology and Evolution as a reference.  I will have to check it out sometime.

Wheres ur blag, bort???

Date: 2009/06/05 14:14:26, Link
Author: ERV
Now, everyone here knows that I maintained confidentiality, right?

Didnt say shit but 'Internet drama.  Bitches and hoes.'?

*lips still zipped, aint doin nothing but linking*

Date: 2009/06/05 21:10:17, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ June 05 2009,19:22)
All that happened after I left so I don't really have a dog in that fight, but now that it is going public on the internet (Drugmonkey has a post at ScienceBlogs) I kind of wish I would have stayed long enough to see it. I consider myself a mild mannered guy, but I do love a good, old fashioned, barn burnin' dust up every now and then. *Sigh*, might have been fun. kind of like this.

Summary, plz?  I know if I go over there I will end up feeding the attention whore......

Date: 2009/06/05 21:36:20, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ June 05 2009,21:29)
Assuming you mean Drugmonkey's post. "Let's not jump to conclusions, blah, blah, blah, they were all just burned out, blah, blah, nothing to see here, move along. Blahbity, blahbity, rate of bloggers leaving is the same now as it has been since the beginning..."

Because blogger burn-out explains why the leaving bloggers are still blogging elsewhere.

Shorter DM: "I accidentally outed myself as a perp on Sandwalk, so now Im doing damage control and hope no one but Larrys crew notices so I dont have to tell everyone what we did."

I think in real life, DrugMonkeys name is 'Classy'.  'Classy von Asshole'.

Date: 2009/06/05 23:38:23, Link
Author: ERV



... that last one is a pig monkey... according to Japan...

Date: 2009/06/06 00:09:33, Link
Author: ERV

But before you can become Royal Crown Tardpoko Master, you must battle: SHOE!!!

Date: 2009/06/06 11:51:41, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 06 2009,06:31)

I think ERV has found John a new avatar.

Especially because it kinda looks like the gorillamon is pinching his nipple.

Date: 2009/06/07 13:46:54, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (khan @ June 07 2009,13:05)
Quote (Texas Teach @ June 07 2009,13:44)
Quote (afarensis @ June 07 2009,12:26)
* I lived in Knoxville for six years so I am entitled to say y'all.

I'm all for the spread of the y'all meme to carpetbaggers and yankees, but it drives me crazy when some actor/actress is trying to pull off the accent and can't understand that y'all is plural, not singular.

"Y'all" is singular
"All y'alls" is plural.
At least for folks from KY who live in OH.

See Ive always said 'yall' as a second person pronoun, but 'yalls' as a plural possessive.

Me: "When can we fit a committee meeting into yalls schedule?"
Prof 1: "... 'yalls'?"
Prof 2: "lol, wut?"

Even Mississippi people give me shit for that.

Date: 2009/06/07 17:25:14, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (afarensis @ June 07 2009,15:38)
Quote (keiths @ June 07 2009,14:57)
Since this is Wilkins' thread, shouldn't we be mocking Strine?

I would be much to afraid of receiving a pissed off wombat in the mail to ever mock anything related to Australia.

Date: 2009/06/25 18:31:38, Link
Author: ERV
An easy way to pay Wes back for all that he does:  Vote to ship him off to Antarctica.


Date: 2009/06/25 20:59:16, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 25 2009,19:24)
Could they have possibly made it any more inconvenient to vote?

Vote cast for Wesley.

Your password must be EIGHT CHARACTERS LONG.  Dont want anyone hacking your account and voting for people you dont like!

Oh well, at least it didnt want eight characters of letters, numbers, and symbols.

Date: 2009/06/26 07:46:55, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (JLT @ June 26 2009,03:28)
Quote (afarensis @ June 26 2009,04:51)
Quote (jswilkins @ June 25 2009,22:19)
Sorry! I added my vote for Grrl before I saw Wesley's claim to the icy wastes.

But I am at least conflicted, so that's OK, right?

Yeah, I did too...conflicted as well...

You can change your vote if you want to...
Just sayin'...

If you have 2 email addressed you can vote for two people... :P

Date: 2009/07/02 22:09:36, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (deadman_932 @ July 02 2009,19:17)
Quote (didymos @ July 02 2009,18:56)
Quote (Maya @ July 02 2009,16:53)
Wow, all it takes is one picture to stop all the guys here from posting.

Someone should post that at UD.

Yeah, srsly, Deadman.  That sock's hypnotic gaze is totally freaking me out, man. :p

It has some kind of sockshual power over me. I think I'm in love.

omg I forgot about this show... so many potential sock names...

Date: 2009/07/09 17:00:57, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/07/14 13:18:09, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 13 2009,20:18)
A trivial result from examination of the genetic code is that about 20% of possible single nucleotide changes are completely neutral, meaning that a substantial proportion of a genome could change without engaging any selection at all. On the other hand, only about 1.5% of the human genome codes for proteins. Selective processes can be far less frequently in action than drift and yet have important effects on the evolution of traits; what the mode of evolution is does not eliminate selection as the cause of the various phenomena Gauger lists.

Question, not a comment:

Are some "neutral" mutations important in retrospect? That is, does context change the interpretation of a mutation? Does the accumulation of non-selected mutations ever look, in retrospect, like a chain of selection?

From my perspective-- Absolutely!  Context always matters!

Certain amino acids in HIV-1 envelope protein are 100% necessary in some subtypes... but not others.  You change the AA landscape of a protein, you change the tertiary structure, and a 'neutral'/variable position becomes deleterious/necessary.

Every domain is coevolving with every other domain.  Context totally matters.

Date: 2009/07/26 19:18:29, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/08/14 17:57:35, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 14 2009,16:10)
Quote (American Saddlebred @ Aug. 14 2009,15:52)
I am currently living in Milwaukee, WI.

I believe Milwaukee is Algonquin for "the good land."

I was not aware of that.

Date: 2009/08/17 13:08:34, Link
Author: ERV
Kevin Miller, *sigh*-- Hate to break it to you, Erv, but in this case you may not be working with all of the relevant data. Feel free to verify your sources any time.

First of all, I love it when Creationists say 'Erv'.  Its almost as good as when Deniers say 'Aids'.

Secondly, Kevins quite right.  I assumed he was a YEC for glorifying Hovind for an Evangelical film company.  There are alternatives.

1.  Kevin is a slut.  Doesnt believe any of it, will put his name on anything for $$$.
2.  Kevin is a mole.  Hes not really into airheaded po-mo TARD, hes just using that crap as a cover to gain Evangelicals trust to make fun of them.  Like Edmondson.  Hes throwing himself on a grenade to bring us glorious, glorious lulz, like EXPELLED and a Hovind mocumentary.

Date: 2009/08/19 12:03:49, Link
Author: ERV
"Weary of quibbling"!  Oh dear!  Im certainly glad UD doesnt get any more traffic than they do-- Some of my comment threads have gotten, like 20 comments!  Dembski would faint!

Best UD stay a glory-hole-in-the-wall blag.

Date: 2009/08/25 16:31:12, Link
Author: ERV
Welp, their old ERV stuff was a huge bucket of fail.  Like, I dont really have to say anything-- long time ERV readers could probably debunk it.
"However, there are also interesting facts against the endogenization theory. (1) Endogenization of modern exogenous retroviruses is rarely observed in nature. (2) Most modern ERVs are not actively transposing (moving around or duplicating) in the host cell genome."
You just need one word to debunk that.  Mouse.


Date: 2009/10/10 15:04:04, Link
Author: ERV

Mystery solved by Doc Bill!  Thank you!

Date: 2009/10/17 15:31:59, Link
Author: ERV
lol, wat?

Date: 2009/10/17 18:50:38, Link
Author: ERV

Date: 2009/12/02 13:20:22, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Dr.GH @ Dec. 01 2009,19:22)
Ouch. Intelligent Design Guys Put the Sleeperhold on Darwin's Defenders.

I watched Schermer screw-up against Hovind some years ago. I hope they at least got a lot of money.

*frowny face*

Wells wrote that I ran out of Meyers presentation, even though Wells wasnt there at all, even though I stayed for all of Meyers presentation, Q&A, and talked with the Trinity Baptist kids until security kicked us all out, even though I was within 2 feet of Meyer after we were all kicked out (why I now call Meyer 'HighDef'.  he looks kinda John Edwardy handsome from a distance, but up close, AAAAAAAAAAHHHHRUNAWAYAAAAAAAH!).

So why in gods name would you believe a EN&V PR piece after an official *debate*?


Date: 2009/12/16 19:00:28, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (socle @ Dec. 15 2009,17:40)

*nod head*

Excellent use of philosoraptor.

Date: 2010/02/21 21:09:46, Link
Author: ERV
Quote (Daevans @ Feb. 21 2010,03:07)
 I don't believe evolution is a complete picture or that everything about evolutionary theory has been satisfactorily explained. I would even say from what we know the Genome might hold some of those answers.

Like What?

Feel free to Be as Technical as you like, 'medical Student'.

Do you think Alu elements are Evidences for Creation?

Are you a moron?

Date: 2010/02/21 21:31:28, Link
Author: ERV
I felt a disturbance in The Force... as if a million mobile elements cried out in horror...

Date: 2010/06/11 11:54:57, Link
Author: ERV
Ah yes, Ann Gauger.  The worlds most preeminent stay at home mom Scientist.