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Jason Spaceman Posts: 163 Joined: Nov. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2007,02:43    Quote Among all the letters I have received on my Darwin columns -- mostly blind support, or blind abuse -- one struck me as especially worth answering: "Wake up, man. Whether or not 'Darwinism' is good science, it is accepted as good science by most intelligent people, and if you persist in attacking it you will lose the respect of people who are prepared to listen to you on many other subjects. Why don't you have the tactical sense to leave Darwinism alone?" The answer to this has been implicit in what I have written. Nevertheless, it is worth spelling out. It is because Darwinism has embedded itself so deeply into the assumptions of our age, that it must be attacked frontally. For Darwinian assumptions cloud our view of reality. They subvert our grasp of moral issues. They make it possible for people to be dismissive, not only of art, philosophy and religion, but of the requirements and limitations of true scientific research. They eviscerate the human spirit, by insisting that, in the last analysis, everything is random and meaningless. Conversely, they justify true fascism ("survival of the fittest"), and all the horrors of eugenics, abortions and euthanasia. Moral relativism could not stand, except on a Darwinist base, and reason itself is rendered defenceless, by the notion that all nature was randomly contrived. Read it here.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2007,05:54    What could be more morally relative than to dismiss reality purely on grounds of ideology? Why not just skip straight to relative ideology, such as basing judgments on mere whims of fancy without the apparatus of science whatsoever. Do you need a battery to run your igod? No of course not. Do you count the muons going through your brain when you imagine what goes on behind the brothel doors? Morality begins at home and let he who casts the first godwin ?er ?..sin to catch up. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2007,12:15    Quote Among all the letters I have received on my Darwin columns -- mostly blind support, or blind abuse -- one struck me as especially worth answering: "Wake up, man. Whether or not 'Darwinism' is good science, it is accepted as good science by most intelligent people, and if you persist in attacking it you will lose the respect of people who are prepared to listen to you on many other subjects. Why don't you have the tactical sense to leave Darwinism alone?" Ah yes, I love the wingnut/Christian Right 'debating' technique of making up an imaginary letter or comment from an ideological foe, then 'refuting' said person. "This liberal evolutionist I know said that Darwinism scientifically proves that there is no basis for morality, so why don't I just get with the program?" I think the idea is that every Sunday they see their pastors doing this, so they don't see why it wouldn't be wonderfully persuasive in their cheesy newspaper columns. They're like 'parables'. Whether any of it is real is beside the point. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

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