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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,11:38   

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Evangelists are seeking a private prosecution of Mark Thompson, the BBC Director-General, for screening the "blasphemous" production
Frances Gibb, Legal Editor

Christian evangelists launched a High Court battle today for the right to bring a private prosecution for blasphemy over Jerry Springer — The Opera.

The show was an "offensive, spiteful, systematic mockery and wilful denigration of Christian belief” — one that that no-one would dream of making about the prophet Mohammed and Islam — two judges were told.

Stephen Green, national director of the evangelical group Christian Voice, is challenging a refusal by District Judge Caroline Tubbs at the City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court in January to issue a summons for the start of a private prosecution against Mark Thompson, the Director-General of the BBC, who allowed the controversial show to be screened on BBC2.


read it here.

Um, sued for blasphemy? Anybody from UK care to share?

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,11:46   

The author of the show (Stuart Lee) is I think the best stand up in the business at the moment. You can buy his DVD's here
http://www.gofasterstripe.com/

And very very good they are too. His last show responded to the Christians who originally tried to bring a "proper" prosecution by incorporating Jesus into his act, and what they got up to after a night down the pub. Lets put it this way - you'd rather throw the towels away then try and wash them.

As to the prosecution - Not a chance in hell!

I mean, Viz magazine (for purile humour!) runs a strip every month about Jesus and his Dad. And Viz certainly does "offensive, spiteful, systematic mockery and wilful denigration of Christian belief” every month!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,11:51   

Maybe I saw something different than you did.

Since when can someone sue for blasphemy? Or maybe more appropriately, when was the last successful blasphemy case prosecuted and what was the punishment?

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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C.J.O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,12:36   

From a review of a book called Blasphemy in Modern Brittain:

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Finally, the conclusion to the book reviews the current situation of the law on blasphemy in Britain, emphasising both the patently unsatisfactory nature of the legacy of the Gay News case and the need for a clear understanding of the history of this issue in order to address the unresolved tensions of its present state. As Nash points out, in the years since the Gay News case, the issue of blasphemy has resurfaced, most notably in the Rushdie affair, but also in relation to the actions of the British Board of Film Censors and their refusal to grant a certificate to the film Visions of Ecstasy. Moreover, in recent years – and especially in the wake of the controversy over The Satanic Verses - the focus of debate has tended to shift towards discussion of the inequality of the existing blasphemy laws in their failure to protect the religious sensibilities of religious believers other than Christians. Thus recent discussion of the law on blasphemy has often proposed that modernisation of the law might mean its extension rather than its abolition. The danger thus remains that religious groups – especially those acting ‘from below’, from the grassroots – might seek to move the law on blasphemy yet further in a threatening or restrictive direction. In modern culture, Nash warns, blasphemy can easily represent ‘a dangerously open door to those who might wish to profit from the status of the offended.’


And here's the wiki on the Gay News case mentioned.

Funny aside: I was talking to my five-year-old son the other night, and we were talking about technological change and what things might be like when he's grown up. I told him that when I was his age, there were no personal computers, and no Google.
He said, "But how did anyone find anything out?"

It was hard to remember.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,12:44   

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Funny aside: I was talking to my five-year-old son the other night, and we were talking about technological change and what things might be like when he's grown up. I told him that when I was his age, there were no personal computers, and no Google.
He said, "But how did anyone find anything out?"

It was hard to remember.

My daughter, who grew up with CDs, had never even heard of LPs til about 4 years ago. For some time she referred to them as 'big CDs'. She was very weirded out when I told her they had two sides.

God knows what she'd think of 8-tracks or 78s.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,12:52   

Quote (BWE @ Dec. 05 2007,11:51)
Maybe I saw something different than you did.

Since when can someone sue for blasphemy? Or maybe more appropriately, when was the last successful blasphemy case prosecuted and what was the punishment?

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This is quite simply a brilliant and stunningly funny piece of retaliation. Lee and his co-writer, Richard Thomas, were at one point facing trial for blasphemy, 'but the court threw it out, on the grounds that it's not 1508'. Facing blasphemy charges for a piece of light entertainment, Lee decides to really knock himself out, and the second part of the show is a long monologue detailing a vision of Christ in his mother's downstairs toilet that makes The Osbournes look like a children's show. Lee is an extremely talented actor, and his fury is measured and controlled, but in his carefully timed pauses you can hear the audience holding its breath. Don't see this if you thought Jerry Springer, The Opera insulted Jesus. Do go if you want to laugh so hard that you leave in pain, and if you want to see one of the most intelligent and courageous comedians currently at work.

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/edinburgh2005/story/0,,1548641,00.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2NMzb0OXU
It appears to be all over now anyway, with an unsurprising result, according to this bbc story.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7128552.stm

Don't know who's been last prosecuted, dinners ready :)

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,16:48   

A blasphemy law at all just seems weird.

Can you imagine some of the spin-offs?

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Look what it's done so far

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