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Date: 2008/06/09 06:57:15, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Ceiling Cat,

That was an excellent post. Too bad it won't/can't be posted at UD.

-DU-

Date: 2008/07/07 15:12:51, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 07 2008,14:51)
DS puts the smackdab on Jack Krebs:
   
Quote
13
DaveScot
07/07/2008
10:57 am
Jack

The day someone in your camp uses the definition of Intelligent Design in our sidebar here is the day I’ll worry about your hypocritical self recommending I take a definition of secular humanism from secular humanists.

Pssst. Dave! Over here.

*furtive glance*

There IS no definition of ID on your side bar.

reciprocatingbill:

I just posted that I couldn't find one there (at UD). I looked for it earlier. But now it IS there. Under "Friends of Descent" header about 3 entries down.

-DU-

Date: 2008/07/28 09:49:52, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (Bob O'H @ July 28 2008,09:45)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 28 2008,09:36)
OlegT already cataloged this is the appropriate place, but:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-293183

   
Quote
5

William Dembski

07/28/2008

9:17 am
Bob O’H is no longer with this forum.


Sorry Bob; too much Genetics, not enough Genesis.

I wonder how Dave feels? No scientists left.

*sniff*

It was a good innings.

Damn sure was a good innings. I left a post at UD, right after your bannination:

"That is a shame. I rather liked reading Bobs challenges and how they were handled. I am also not so sure he was ever “with” this forum, but I get the meaning."

You will be missed but not missing it.

-DU-

Date: 2008/07/29 09:03:43, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Oh the Dark Matter TARD! (not on UD).

Perhaps angels push the galaxies around?

-DU-

Date: 2008/07/29 09:13:59, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Ooops forgot to add some quotes:

Quote
I think that scientist are just too smart to believe in God, so they seek their answers elsewhere. They say that there is no evidence for God, but what that means is that they cannot dig up a piece of Him and study it under a microscope.


and

Quote
They have already found the evidence for God, and yet they call that evidence, dark matter. If you don’t know the idea of dark matter, there is this uniform force, that is keeping the stars of our galaxy together, exerting a constant and uniform gravity field. This goes against the laws of physics.


and

Quote
It is God who stops the galaxies from flying apart. So this is clear evidence of God’s existence. The sad thing is, that scientist cannot accept this, because of their prejudice against Him, and therefore make up these bizarre theories about something that cannot really exist, but is clearly there.


-DU-

Date: 2008/08/08 18:38:37, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (jeffox @ Aug. 08 2008,17:02)
Currently, I've been driving one of these:



Eats the diesel, though.  Technically, it's the world's first snowmobile.  :)   :)   :)   :)

Jeffox,

Nice T34. Looks like you stripped it down for more streamlined fuel efficiency (no baggage(or boxage)). I would love to drive one of those. There is a very nice one in a museum in London UK. I forget the name of the place but it has a HUGE naval gun out front.

I am greener than your tank with envy.

-DU-

Date: 2008/08/15 15:50:08, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (dhogaza @ Aug. 15 2008,12:45)
Heh, that got snuck in on June 2nd ... hope they don't peek over here and find out about it.  Well done, indeed, Pepek2008!

Damn that is funny!!!

I guess conservapedians[sic] don't read much about reality I guess.

-DU-

Date: 2008/08/23 16:17:25, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
I couldn't find any town named "Butteville" it is just the school district name. It appears it serves the Weed CA community for grades K-8. The school district has a whopping total of 152 students for all 9 grades combined. The entire targeted 7th grade class is 15 students which is about 1/3 the size of the AP Bio class I took in high school. My high school (Berkeley High, Berkeley CA) offered about 12 sections of Biology at one level or another each semester. Roughly about 500 students took Biology each year.

Weed seems to be a fairly economically depressed community. Low median income, high unemployment, large proportion living below poverty line.

Doing a google maps on Weed CA and then a search for "church" yields quite a few. Some of them seem fundy.

The board president, Stephen Darger, term ends in 2010.

What is it with retired police officers and ID??

-DU-

Date: 2008/08/28 20:30:47, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Lou,

Outstanding series of posts. I haven't taken any regular biology classes since HS (physics major.)

One other test I thought of for your termites might have been:

Hypothesis: Is it the ink alone or an interaction with the ink and the paper.

Prediction: It is the ink alone. Mark out a new circle with the best ink (Squitchy Britches black pen) on the transparency film or on a clean sheet of frosted glass (so the ink will actually adhere.) See if the termite follows the ink.


Thanks again for a great series of posts. I will be watching this thread regularly.

-DU-

Date: 2008/10/02 11:29:17, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Some good posts following that up indicating how silly the comparison DT is trying to make. I wonder how long they will last.

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/06 23:05:01, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Nov. 06 2008,20:55)
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 06 2008,15:59)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 06 2008,15:55)
That's talking about the fine tuning constant, not the particular amount of gravitational force at any particular location.

Henry

Do you mean the fine structure constant?  It has nothing to do with gravity, it involves electricity and quantum physics.  I just can't imagine why gravity needs to be fine-tuned for life.  Can someone provide the context?

Maybe they mean the gravitational constant G?  I remember long ago when people were trying to see if it was changing.  Those fools didn't realize that the universe couldn't exist if G varies by 10^-40.

1 part in 10^40, hmmm.....

How the heck is whatever they are talking about being measured to that accuracy? I do experimental physics (undergrad research level) and I have no knowledge of any quantity that can even be measured to one part in 10^40.

Sometimes the Tard is just stultifying to even consider.

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/07 01:25:33, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
stevestory,

Ah OK. I think I quoted the wrong post from TPH. In the one where he quotes planetwisdom(?) "To be exact, gravity must be fine-tuned to one part in 1040 (that's one part in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)." (or some such.) Which is also gobbledy-gook.

I think where they may be getting it from is by comparing magnitudes of the electromagnetic force and the and the gravitational force which... between say a proton and an electron is about 10^39.

Are they suggestiong that if this were not "just right" that we wouldn't exist? Or are they just throwing out numbers to give their talks some scienciness?

We routinely (with some effort) measure "little" g in our lab to 5 places using a simple Kater pendulum, a photogate, and a very fast crystal clock.

We just got a new "Big" G apparatus and I haven't seen the students latest results. Wikipedia lists G to 5 places +/- 0.00067 (MKS).

I listened to the MP3 of the "tag team" session. It was interesting to note that Dembski said something about research in ID being quashed. About three years ago I signed up for the idurc (intelligent design undergraduate research center) yahoo group. This was just to see what was going on. There are about 86 members in the group. Last post to the group was back in late February 2007. I asked about any "research" going on and never got a reply.

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/16 16:45:57, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 16 2008,13:29)

olegt,

I read that entire bit of tard by Granville Sewell. It kinda reminds me of discussions one might have after a first semester Physics class and a couple of bong hits. Kinda revelling in buzzwords of Physics but not really knowing what they mean and how they got their meaning.

Thanks for your clarification and links on the origins of the Schroedinger Equation.

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/16 20:45:42, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (blipey @ Nov. 16 2008,17:46)
Quote (utidjian @ Nov. 16 2008,16:45)
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 16 2008,13:29)

olegt,

I read that entire bit of tard by Granville Sewell. It kinda reminds me of discussions one might have after a first semester Physics class and a couple of bong hits. Kinda revelling in buzzwords of Physics but not really knowing what they mean and how they got their meaning.

Thanks for your clarification and links on the origins of the Schroedinger Equation.

-DU-

An interesting read that addresses the beginnings of quantum theory and especially its mathematics is Peter Woit's Not Even Wrong.  It's pretty dense for a popular science book (I learned exactly what 26 hours of undergrad mathematics gets you--trying to remember what the hell 1/4 of it was and thankful that I didn't decide to be a maths major), but very interesting if you're into quantum theory and the short-comings of Superstring Theory.

Thanks blipey. I have added that book to my Amazon wishlist :)

I work at a small college in Northern NJ as the Physics Lab Coordinator (fancy name for technician) and I am still an undergrad in Physics. I can do and troubleshoot experiments, which is how I got the job. After eight years of this I have a pretty good grasp of experimental physics at the undergrad and even the gradate level. I understand the quantum mechanics stuff pretty well also and what the experiments are telling us and why the theory, so far, is correct. I am not, yet, so good at the math... but I am working on it.

Even with my limited theoretical knowledge I can see the bogosity in Granville Sewells argument. As I see it, the Schroedinger Equation is derivable from first principles starting with something as simple as a vibrating string. There are several other approaches depending on how low a level (mathematically) one wants to start from.

Thanks again for the book suggestion.

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/24 23:55:22, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Ptaylor,

All four comments are there for me. Try a Shift-Reload and see if they don't all show up.

Kinda lame the way the UD crowd tries to make a joke. They steal someone elses joke and cut out the funny part and it still doesn't quite work for them. Would this be a "jokemine"?

-DU-

Date: 2008/11/25 01:10:49, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Update... I guess I "fixed" that. The Chortle post has been Expelled.

I posted to UD the link to the original on monkeyfluids and mentioned the copyright. It was getting boring anyhow.

-DU-

Date: 2008/12/24 09:18:24, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (keiths @ Dec. 24 2008,08:47)
Paradoxically, that is one KF comment worth quoting in full -- for the laughs:
Quote
159

kairosfocus

[much drivel deleted]

GEM of TKI

WTF was all that about!!??

Reminds me of some of the papers that people diagnosed with ADHD write.

Thanks for 'preserving' that keiths. I just can't handle the raw TARD any more. I prefer to get my carefully selected TARD by reading what you guys distil from UD.

-DU-

Date: 2009/01/07 18:36:55, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2009,11:30)
gil says:

 
Quote
I understand how it works. It throws stuff out so it doesn’t get perpetuated. How throwing stuff out creates new stuff is what I don’t understand.



One of the things I do running the physics labs where I work is machining. Machining is a subtractive process. The chips are removed (and recycled!) and I create something new. At the very basic level just about everything that humans make out of materials is a combination of additive (welding, gluing, screwing...), subtractive (cutting, machining, etching...) and formative (forging, casting, heat treating, bending...) processes.

Apparently Gil doesn't understand several hundred thousand years of tool and thing making. It is one of the ways we make stuff.

-DU-

Date: 2009/01/09 13:11:54, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Self-Seplicating Chemicals Evolve in Lifelike Ecosystem

I am afraid that much tard will come of that article. It would be nice to see the original paper.

-DU-

Date: 2009/01/26 02:29:31, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 26 2009,01:47)
How long before this shows up at UD as proof of ID?

Why? Because Abbie uses "machinery'? (and we all know that "machines" are "designed" by an "intelligence")

Woah!! What a head rush.... I think I am coming down with the tard. I feel sick :puke:

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/01 20:51:46, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Good work sledgehammer.

That is a very interesting discussion. I can only speculate on what sort of mental gymnastics an ID proponent like Durston has to go through to manage what said then and what he is saying now.

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/02 12:04:22, Link 69.125.193.130
Author: utidjian
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 02 2009,11:52)
Bob O'H
Quote
sledgehammer can haz POTW icon?
seconded

Thoided!
(or is it Foisted! (?))

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/03 01:41:06, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Bob,

I seem to remember that she defended "Slimy" Sal Cordovas article that implied that Skatje was in to bestiality. Hard to find links on this stuff because many of the original posts and threads have been pulled off the intertubes.

I think somewhere here on AtBC there is a thread where FtK defends Sal.

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/04 19:51:58, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Venus Mousetrap:

I have often heard the creationists claim that 'Evolution is not a real science because it does not have a mathematical basis like Physics' (or words to that effect).

When it is something that I have an inclination to reply to I refer them to the Hardy-Weinberg Principle as a place to start. It reliably shuts them up about the 'no mathematical basis' claim.... at least in the current discussion.

I remember learning about H-W-P back in high school biology. IIRC we even did some simple example problems. That was over 30 years ago and I am fuzzy on any more details. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to dig up some 'demonstrations' of the application of H-W-P, no?

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/22 18:33:44, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
LULZ! Good pick for a pic Abbie.

Too bad that series never made it.

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/22 20:43:37, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Nah if UD goes away or even starts to run dry there are always places like The Science and Origins Forum over at Christianity.com. There are some regulars and even sane posters. Bettawrekonize (who was here a while back and banned twice form UD) is on of their most prolific fountains of tard. For the weapons grade tard there is JHud and drmark. The moderator, Bonky, never disappoints.

Anyhow... just in case. it is always good to have a backup pusher when the others fall through.

-DU-

Date: 2009/02/24 02:40:18, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Wesley,

That is an interesting description. I have often wondered what makes a literalist and even many not so literalist Christians cling to their mistakes with such tenacity. Especially so in the presence of a non-believer.

I always assumed that it had more to do with pride rather than denial and fear. I am most likely wrong. Good thing it doesn't scare me to admit that ;-)

-DU-

Date: 2009/03/25 23:04:48, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 25 2009,21:36)
StevenB has no idea what he is talking about:  
Quote
Timeaus: I agree with your assessment. It appears that this Pope has already begun to detach himself from his advisors and their dubious orientation to the problem of evolution. It was he, after all, who coined the phrase “the intelligent project,” declared that Darwinism has not been proven, and fired Jerry Coyne, radical Darwinist and Vatican astronomer, all of which sent shock waves throughout the Catholic TE academy. I think he understands the importance of this issue, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he weighs in on it again in a year or two.

First, Jerry Coyne is a well-known evolutionary biologist at U. Chicago.  The Vatican Astronomer Observatory head was Fr. George Coyne.  

Second, Fr. Coyne wasn't fired.  At 73 years of age, he had been asking his superiors to find a new director and they finally did just that.

Olegt,

I fixed your linky and copy-pasted your comment over at UD.

Not sure why but it appears that my comments are not (yet) held in moderation limbo. Could be useful... not sure for what though.

-DU-

Date: 2009/03/25 23:08:17, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
See if this works:


OK now?

-DU-

Date: 2009/03/31 22:47:07, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
RTH,

That was such a friggin good one I couldn't resist posting your co-inky-dink on the UD. I wonder how long that one will last.

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Date: 2009/03/31 22:56:22, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
OK... it is so damn close to 4/1 that I don't know whether to laugh at the pranks or at the usual UD shennannigans:

Linky

Quote
IMHO, he would have been better had he stuck to writing science fiction rather than trying his hand at movies. Sure, Citizen Kane was great, but seeing him in wine commercials toward the end of his life was pitiful.


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Date: 2009/04/06 19:54:46, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
[quote=GCT,April 06 2009,18:02]
Quote (Jkrebs @ April 06 2009,10:26)

(1000th post!)

You talk to much.

-DU-

Date: 2009/04/15 18:35:35, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 15 2009,17:17)
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 15 2009,00:47)
Well, it means they might work financially.  Perhaps we should start The Open Journal of Crank Science.

How about The Archived Research of Design Science?

Texas T,

I like it.

Are there any issues with respect to copyright of tardacious text from weblogs like UD? What I mean to say is, I understand there is no problem with quoting excerpts but what about whole comments? We seem to be able to do that here with impunity. I suppose a single (or even several) comments in their entirety could be considered an "excerpt" from the larger topic and thread. Must have correct attribution of course... where would the fun be if we didn't know who said what to whom. And so on, blah blah.

Damn I am tired. Tired of the Tard.

-DU-

Date: 2009/05/07 10:41:40, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 07 2009,10:19)
Quote (Bob O'H @ May 07 2009,10:08)
I <3 Tom English.  

"<3" ?

Is that teh interwebs symbol for "offer my bottom to"?

Heh... first time I saw that emoticon used I thought it would translate to:

I [am less of an ass then] Tom English.

or

I [have lesser boobs than] Tom English.

or

I [am less than three times] Tom English.

but I think it really means:

I [heart] Tom English.

Which, when ya think about it, makes even less sense than the other two.

K enough tare... back to the real tard.

-DU-

Date: 2009/05/12 20:30:54, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Zachriel @ May 12 2009,09:44)
Design detection (emphasis added).
Quote
Nakashima: Actually, Mr Chu-Carroll was being loose in his description of evolution as a search strategy. NFL would say that there are some spaces evolution does well in, some spaces where it equals a random walk, and some spaces where it does worse than a random walk, so that on average it equals the random walk in performance across all spaces.

By accepting NFL, Dr Dembski and the rest of us have to accept that evolution works, full stop. Really, the only remaining issue is whether the universe we inhabit is a search space tuned to make evolution easy, or not.

One approach to this question is to look at universes (fitness functions) where evolution fails to perform as well as a random walk. Dr David Goldberg at the University of Illinois studies deception in genetic algorithms.

Imagine a fitness surface like a bowl, with one point sticking up from the lowest point to reach just a little bit above the rim. That is a deceptive fitness function. All the information points away from the optimum. By tuning the parameters of the fitness function, it is possible to force an evolutionary algorithm to perform worse than a random search.

Is our universe deceptive? Or are its laws monotonic and regular over the scale of life in size, temperature and pressure? To the extent that the laws are regular, we should expect that we live in an evolution friendly universe. To the extent that the laws are deceptive, if we still saw evolution work, that would be evidence of some interference or assistance.

Wow... that is an interesting hypothesis. Good catch Zach. Be interesting to see what the TARD response is to that.

-DU-

Date: 2009/05/28 18:27:41, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 28 2009,15:24)
   
Quote (JLT @ May 27 2009,19:07)
 
I linked to this comment from my Facebook page. Allow me to share the response of a friend of mine who was previously unfamiliar with the denizens of UD, EN&V or the interconnected web of DiscoTARD:

     
Quote
Let us fervently hope that this person does not ever, ever reproduce.


Unfortunately Behe has already reproduced, I think, about nine times already.

   
Quote

You never get a second chance to make a first impression.



Heh.

Short story:

I was at Lehigh University in November 2008 to attend a former students wedding. He had just completed his PhD in theoretical physics, was getting married, soon to do his post-doc at Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.
Anyhow... The wedding reception was held at the Humanities Center on campus. I arrived a bit early to set things up and make sure the booze was of the required quantity and quality. The Humanities Center is a very nice early 20th century house. The room we used for the reception was a large comfortable living room. It had built in book shelves with many "humanities" sorts of books. One book on a shelf near the window caught my eye because of its chromed cover. It was a very worn and beat up copy of The God Delusion (Dawkins, reprint 2008). This copy of TGD had been "critically" read by at least three people judging by all the notes in at least three different styles. Almost every page was commented and underlined in one way or another.
On a shelf above was also a copy of Darwin's Black Box (Behe, pub 1996) that was actually signed on the inside with what appeared to be Behe's signature. In contrast this copy of DBB did not appear to ever have been read by  anyone. The shelf was near a window and the pages of DBB appeared to have yellowed a bit around the top edges.

Make of it what you will.

Date: 2009/06/09 21:40:59, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 09 2009,19:56)
Quote (keiths @ June 09 2009,18:02)
The tard keeps on flowing. Clive Hayden:
     
Quote
In my own opinion, all of nature could be considered supernatural

Gotta love it. And, somehow, this comports with Gil's mutating hardware.

Why... that is almost .sig-worthy.

Good job Clive!

-DU-

Date: 2009/06/10 11:51:21, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Just looked at the Mendel's Accountant website:
http://mendelsaccountant.info
and the sourceforge page... seems that a.) there is no longer a Linux version and b.) there is no source. Which leads me to wonder why it is on sourceforge to begin with. I am not aware of a requirement that source also be posted but... just seems strange to post it without the source on sourceforge.

-DU-

Date: 2009/06/10 14:10:39, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 10 2009,12:47)
Quote

Sam, AKA Ansgar Seraph writes,

 
Quote
I'd be more than happy to run experiments for people and provide full outputs and plots. Let me know if it gets off the ground and I'll join the thread over there to see what's needed.

You might want to let the person who asked about source code know that it's included in the installer on SourceForge. Dumb way to package source code but I don't think they're really trying to be terribly transparent, anyhow.

Thanks for the invitation to help! I like the title a lot.


I suggest moving the discussion to a differnt thread. What was the thread you had in mind, Wes?

Dr. GH,

Where did you read that (the Sam thing)?

-DU-

and thanks... but now I gotta boot to Windows :( Ithink there used to be a linux util for unpacking Windows installers but I forget what it is called. Perhaps I will try it in Wine.

Date: 2009/06/11 00:05:54, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 10 2009,20:15)
I'd suggest that analysis of Mendel's Accountant primarily go on the evolutionary computation thread.

Thanks Wes, Headed over there.

And thanks Dr. GH.

-DU-

Date: 2009/06/11 00:18:06, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Ok... I downloaded the .exe files. Both the earlier version and the update from sourceforge.

I am running Linux (Fedora 10) on a Intel iMac with 1G of RAM.

I unpacked the files with Wine. First the older version and then the newer one. Man it installs a lot of stuff.

The Linux source is in
/home/utidjian/.wine/drive_c/Mendel/Source
on my system. Not much in there.

listing:
Code Sample

[utidjian@istrain Source]$ ls -ogh
total 416K
-rw-rw-rw- 1 4.5K 2008-09-13 17:38 common.h
-rw-rw-rw- 1  587 2008-09-07 22:00 Interface back-end.lnk
-rw-rw-rw- 1  661 2008-09-07 22:00 Interface front-end.lnk
-rw-rw-rw- 1  985 2008-09-01 20:51 Makefile
-rw-rw-rw- 1 165K 2008-10-01 06:15 mendel.f
-rw-rw-rw- 1 163K 2008-09-05 22:00 mendel.f.bak
-rw-rw-rw- 1 1.9K 2008-09-18 18:57 mendel.in
-rw-rw-rw- 1 1.5K 2008-09-04 03:20 mpi_mendel.f
-rw-rw-rw- 1  42K 2006-03-01 13:02 random_pkg.f90
-rw-rw-rw- 1 1.3K 2007-01-15 09:50 sort.f90


The main file in there is mendel.f. Lots of comments. I can "read" Fortran but I don't know diddly about Population Genetics.

Time for bed.

-DU-

Date: 2009/06/11 12:17:52, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Is anyone else playing with the source (or even reading it)?
I also found this file in the Source folder:

Code Sample

[utidjian@buttle Source]$ cat mendel.in
       1000    pop_size
        500    num_generations
          1    fitness_distrib_type:exponential_mutation_effect
          2    selection_scheme:unrestricted_probability_selection
         23    haploid_chromosome_number
       1000    num_linkage_subunits
   0.000000    pop_growth_rate
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Anything interesting in there?

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Date: 2009/06/20 20:17:03, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
No sockulating from me. I seem to have unfettered posting privs at UD... but I am not clever enough to run a really good sock. Much more fun watching the AtBC regulars run them. I hardly ever read UD any more... the TARD is so thick there now that it is just too powerful for me.

I also scan some fundie forums like
this one from time to time. (Be warned the god soaked tardology on that site can be toxic.) At least their TARD isn't pretending to be non-religous, nor are they claiming any expertise in the sciences.

Reading AtBC threads of UD (and other TARD) is like watching really bad sci-fi on MST3K... it makes it all into entertainment.

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Date: 2009/06/21 15:15:16, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (khan @ June 21 2009,11:18)
Quote (utidjian @ June 20 2009,21:17)
I also scan some fundie forums like
this one from time to time. (Be warned the god soaked tardology on that site can be toxic.) At least their TARD isn't pretending to be non-religous, nor are they claiming any expertise in the sciences.

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The tard is strong there:

Hello,

I just wanted to let you know that links to websites that are anti-Christians are not allowed on our website. From now any posts that link to talkorgins.org or similar websites will be removed or edited.

Sincerely,
Lisa Luper
Moderator

Yeah. Lisa Luper is the new mod of that section. There only used to be a drive-by mod... and it was a much more "liberal" back then. Lisa is also a self confessed second generation homeschooler who has no training in science. She can't even get basic logic correct.

You may recognize a few names like:
Bettawrekonize. I think Betta has been here and over on UD. He (or she) was banned from UD back when DT was moderator.

SFS. Actually has some good arguments and is on our side.

JHud: Is quite the obfuscator. Claims to have a degree in Biology from U Iowa (or something.) He seems to have the most cachet amongst the creotards.

DrMark: A bible thumping IDiot.

GHitch: Another thumper.

DanJames: Kind of interesting. A solid creotard but he appears to be an honest creotard (in the Kurt Wise sense.) I think he is an undergrad in biochemistry. He trots out some old long debunked creationist claims and will adjust his views to accommodate real evidence. He does not think of scientists as all a bunch of dishonest charlatans (as DrMark does.)

Illuvatar: good guy.

Veritas: good guy.

I rarely ever post there any more. Whenever I do it really ticks off JHud. But in that sense it is worth it... just to see him froth. I prefer to play a close hand over there. Only bother when I can really zing JHud.

Anyhow... I keep tabs on the place just to see what the rank-and-file tards are thinking. Also interesting to read their "Current Events" forum.

I was sort of amazed to see that in the thread "have you changed your mind since you came here?" that 12% (3) of the respondents chose:"i used to be yec, now i believe in evolution" as their answer.

The restriction on TO linking was added when Luper became moderator.

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Date: 2009/06/24 20:23:45, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2009,20:21)
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 24 2009,19:50)
Quote (afarensis @ June 24 2009,17:25)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ June 24 2009,17:04)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2009,12:57)
Come back Chatterbox. I has questions on the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis.

Richard - I just read THIS book, and the author absolutely despises Whorf...I get the impresson he relates to Whorf the way we ATBCers relate to posts by O'Leary, Dembski and Gordon...

Good book BTW ... with a surprise ending.  Who knew?

Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue

added in edit:  Author thinks Whorff has head up his ass and his hypothesis idea makes as much sense as ID -(I'm paraphrasing, but that's the idea).

Feh! The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis was an interesting idea for its time and did generate some testable hypotheses. Turned out to be wrong, but thems the breaks.

It turned out to have been grossly overstated, but not totally wrong. Our languages do shape how we report experiences, and to some extent can limit perception- not biologically however.

Could we optimise language for thought?

Does vocabulary and syntax effect the 'quality' of thought?

The Thought Word of the Day is:

Hmmmmm....

I feel smarter already.

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Date: 2009/07/01 12:13:29, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Just had to share this one from Christian Forums:

Quote
Quote
Cow451:
If one does not believe in evolution, it seems curious as to how one can blame evolution for all these bad things. But that's what anti-evolution people do..

JHud (Jack Hudson):
Well that is ironic in a sense, but it really comes down to the ways we discuss evolution.

Creationists and others might blame the concept of evolution for motivating certain disastorous events and actions, whereas logically an evolutionist would see the process of evolution for being ultimately responsible for human choices which led to those same events.

One of course could see it in both senses, leading to the ironic conclusion that the best way to avoid those inclinations evolution created in us is to not believe in evolution!
(emphasis in the original)

And the creotards will eat that kind of creologic up.

The problem with the above is that there were plenty of wars, famine and natural disasters long before the concept of evolution even existed. Therefore the concept of evolution could not possibly be responsible for thousands of years of wars, famine, and natural disasters.

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Date: 2009/07/01 12:17:53, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
ETA: May be time to put on my socks.

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Date: 2009/07/03 07:04:37, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,July 01 2009,22:31)
hahahahaha at Poythress

in addition to being deep cover pomo Poythress wrote his own wiki entry.  loser.

How did you figure that out? I looked that "History" of the wikipedia page and I can't see that he created any of it nor edited any of it.

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Date: 2009/07/30 12:33:19, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 30 2009,10:01)
I'm trying to get the fine tuning thing straight in my head. According to the fine tuning conjecture and current understanding of cosmic expansion, our universe will be habitable for approximately .000000000000001 percent of its existence, and this is evidence for design.

Yeah I don't "get" the fine tuning argument so much either. What I find more interesting and more critical to "the existence of the universe as we know it" (or whatever) is not the, so called, fine tuning of various physical constants but that in the various laws and relationships in physics we have have factors like 1/r² (inverse square law) and that the "square" is exactly 2. I know this holds for Newtons law of gravitation but I am not sure about Einsteins general relativity. I suppose that G could vary a little bit (or even a lot) and we would just see a different universe if there was anything to see at all. Same thing in Coulomb's law. I guess it just "follows from the geometry" but I don't see why it has to.... just that it does.

midwifetoad, do you have a linky for that number?

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Date: 2009/07/30 23:00:34, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 30 2009,16:52)
Quote (utidjian @ July 30 2009,12:33)
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 30 2009,10:01)
I'm trying to get the fine tuning thing straight in my head. According to the fine tuning conjecture and current understanding of cosmic expansion, our universe will be habitable for approximately .000000000000001 percent of its existence, and this is evidence for design.

Yeah I don't "get" the fine tuning argument so much either. What I find more interesting and more critical to "the existence of the universe as we know it" (or whatever) is not the, so called, fine tuning of various physical constants but that in the various laws and relationships in physics we have have factors like 1/r² (inverse square law) and that the "square" is exactly 2. I know this holds for Newtons law of gravitation but I am not sure about Einsteins general relativity. I suppose that G could vary a little bit (or even a lot) and we would just see a different universe if there was anything to see at all. Same thing in Coulomb's law. I guess it just "follows from the geometry" but I don't see why it has to.... just that it does.

midwifetoad, do you have a linky for that number?

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I believe my number first appears here:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y150185

But seriously, what does the exact number matter? According to currently understood trends, the universe will pull itself apart, stars will die, even atoms will cease to cohere, but the existence of matter will continue for much longer than the lifetime of stars and galaxies.

That's the big freeze theory. There's also the big rip theory, which Douglas Adams seemed to favor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. So clear, in fact, that it completely obliterated what I was thinking of. I think it had something to do with me thinking it was some thread or comment on UD that you were commenting on.

After reading your linkages I see your point. You could even be off by dozens of orders magnitude... but like you said... what does it matter.

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Date: 2009/07/31 18:32:53, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
midwifetoad,

Thanks. That is an interesting perspective on the FTU numbers game that the tards are always playing.

I suppose that one could also argue that even the world, throughout its history, is not all that "finely tuned" for our existence. I seem to remember a talk by Neil deGrasse Tyson on that subject or one very similar. ::me heads over to youtube to find it::

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Date: 2009/08/01 09:41:41, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
KF is truly amazing. I don't think I have ever run a cross a kook that can crank out so much tard and other goofiness at the rate he does. Hard to imagine him being gainfully employed at any job that requires more than a couple hours a week in order to get paid. Anyone know his occupation?

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Date: 2009/08/07 13:30:08, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (keiths @ Aug. 07 2009,12:25)
Dave is a tard's tard.

Has anyone seen ol' Scooter in the blogosphere lately?

I think he showed up on Pandas Thumb recently.... (digging for reference)

Found it, linky. There are several others from "springer" further down in the comments.

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PS (for concerned onlookers) I think this is the first time I answered a question on AtBC! ::toasts self::

Date: 2009/08/15 09:12:19, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (dvunkannon @ Aug. 14 2009,20:38)
 
Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 14 2009,21:20)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 14 2009,10:36)
   
Quote
7 –> The following Sunday, the tomb is open and empty, and the former occupant, over the following forty days, appears to, eats and converses with his friends, family and followers, including making breakfast and having a fairly public meeting with over 500.

8 –> These 500 become the core of a culture-transforming movement that was unstoppable by even fire and sword.

How do you know the resurrection happened?
There were 500 witnesses to Jesus rising from the dead.
What evidence is there for the 500 witnesses?
It is in the Bible.
How do we know that the Bible is true?
It is the word of God.
How do we know it is the word of God?
There were 500 witnesses to Jesus rising from the dead.
WTF

Same argument is used by Orthodox Jews, but with 600,000 adult males witnessing the giving of the Torah on Mt Sinai, with extra goodness like "you could never get 600,000 Jews to agree about anything, therefore it must be true!"

I have used a similar argument against Apollo Moon Mission deniers:

It is extremely unlikely that, after all these years, not a single scientist, engineer, or technician of the tens of thousands that were involved in the project would not have come forward by now and denied that it really happened.

Main difference between the resurrection and the torah thing and the Apollo Mission being that many of the witnesses are still alive today. That and a tremendous amount of hard data and evidence.

Whatever the difficulties, Jules Verne's From Earth to the Moon, published in 1865 is more believable than the bible.

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Date: 2009/08/19 14:30:01, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
My comment on the Water-strider thread hasn't been dissappearinated yet but just in case:

Linky

Texty
Quote


Hunter @ (3):

Quote
Is it conceivable that this gene that causes (or helps to cause) the formation of the limbs is not the blind cause of the original appearance of the limbs, as the evolutionist so claims?


Where in the article does it claim that this gene is responsible for the “original appearance of the limbs”?

Quote
   In other words, is it possible that the evolutionary account (which roughly is that there was this bug a long time ago which suffered some mutations which happened to result in a regulatory protein modifying the limb lengths just right so the bug could start to walk on water; it worked pretty well and some more mutations came along and made it work even better; and then some more mutations, and it worked really well) is not true?


Which is an interesting question. Have you ever noticed that many different kinds of insects can support themselves on water? I have. Most ants I have seen manage it quite well, even flies. Ants and flies are not well adapted to living on water but it is a start. All that is necessary is that their body weight not exceed the ability of the surface tension of the water to hold them up.

Certainly it is possible that the current evolutionary explanation as presented in the paper is incorrect. Did you read the paper?

What is more amazing to me is that somehow nature managed to evolve legs that just reach the water.


I was going to get in on the Dembski paper thread but I figured that commenting on that was not as important as finishing watching Alien vs Predator: Requiem

Seems that others got the message across to Dr. Dr. anyhow.

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Date: 2009/08/27 07:40:36, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
From a Xtian forum:

Quote
shakezula:
i still don't understand why creationists get adjective happy.
Quote
drmark:
We enjoy the intelligent design of verbage. :)



From Dictionary.com:
Quote

verbage spelling, jargon
/ver'b*j/ A deliberate misspelling and mispronunciation of verbiage that assimilates it to the word "garbage". Compare content-free. More pejorative than "verbiage".
(1996-12-13)


I can agree with that... indeed, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Date: 2009/08/28 07:50:06, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
RBill,

Was that a real UD webpage? I looked for it at UD and couldn't find it.

I do vaguely remember the Baylor Regents phone number brouhahah but I wasn't aware that Dembski "notpologized" for it.

If the page is (or was) real, I wonder why it was pulled (and a good catch for whoever snapshotted it.)

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Date: 2009/08/28 10:37:00, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
RBill,

Thanks for the clarification. I find it sometimes a bit difficult to keep up with the shenanigans of UD and the parodies of UD posted here. I have been Poe'd.

I agree with J-Dog, your notpology was more accurate and gracious in tone than the real one.

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Date: 2009/11/15 14:59:24, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
My comments on UD rarely get moderated long (if at all.) But then I rarely comment here or at UD.

BTW... in response to an earlier request: I am de-lurking.

Hi all. I don't say much because all you pro-tards seem to do an excellent job as it is. Very difficult to handle the pure tard at UD without the filtering and additional comments that go on here.

I very much admire the patience and sheer fortitude of Allen MacNeil... and many of the regular socks over at UD. Allen is un-usually polite considering the abuse they throw at him. I guess they kind of have to put up with(???) Allen since he did a summer seminar at Cornell on ID. He (in fact an ID proponent/student) ran the blog for the class and had it open to public contribution. The moderation policy was MUCH more fair and consistent than UD. Come to think of it that is an unfair comparison. The arbitrary "policies" for commenting and moderation at UD are absurd. In my mind their moderation practices at the UD blog are the second most important factor in determining how the public perceives ID (and ID proponents.) Of course... the most important factor is the idiocy of the articles themselves.

Why am I telling you all this... you know it! It is the whole reason for AtBC UDT3.

OK... back to lurking.

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Date: 2009/12/07 09:57:46, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 06 2009,16:20)
Quote (Reg @ Dec. 06 2009,15:54)
Dembski:
     
Quote
olin: I doubt the ID community has a single view about global warming and humanity’s role in it. What many of us in that community have a problem with is the abuse of science to further political ends, which we find exemplified both among proponents of Darwinism and among proponents of AGW.

My irony meter just went off-scale and needs resetting.

Seriously, if there is a suicidal sock out there, he/she should remind the good Doctor2 of s couple of the 20 year goals in the Wedge Document.
   
Quote
To see design theory application in specific fields, including molecular biology, biochemistry, paleontology, physics and cosmology in the natural sciences, psychology, ethics, politics, theology and philosophy in the humanities; to see its innuence in the fine arts.

To see design theory permeate our religious, cultural, moral and political life.

Done

Since I have been such a wussy UDer I don't need no steenking moderation! Perhaps that will change soon. See how long it lasts anyhow.

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Date: 2009/12/11 01:27:00, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
RDK,

From your YouTube link:

Quote
This video has been removed because it is too long. Regular YouTube videos must be 10 minutes or less.


Try again?

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Date: 2010/02/18 00:20:47, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (socle @ Feb. 17 2010,21:44)
I suppose now would be a bad time to start a discussion on the Eucharist over there.

Done.

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Date: 2010/02/18 21:28:56, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
CannuckianYankee
Quote
Nakashima-san “and our societies provide the external reference”

tribuney: “But what provides the external reference for our societies?”

I wonder about this as well, because the Darwinists insist that the earth is not a closed system when talking about the laws of thermodynamics, yet they insist that society is a closed system when it comes to morality. There seems to be some cherry picking going on here, which contributes to an overall inconsistency with materialism.


So, ummmm... morality comes from the sun and from the heat of thermonuclear reactions within the earth?

I think that is what is called a "category error."

Quote
Society can no more be an external reference for morality than rain can be an external reference for oceans. We still need to ask where the rain came from.


I know, I know.... it comes from the sky!?

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Date: 2010/04/22 22:23:19, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (olegt @ April 22 2010,17:46)
Vincent Torley has just smashed the UD record for long-windedness with a post just shy of 10,000 words (9,710 to be exact).  Here it is: In Praise of Subtlety.  I think Vincent is trying to argue that Thomas Aquinas would approve of ID had he lived to this day.  (Who the fuck cares?  I don't give a damn whether Newton would approve of quantum mechanics.  Einstein didn't, but it hardly matters.)  

Anyway, the post contains some juicy pieces that surviving socks must be dying to tear into.  Like this one:
 
Quote
(e) Is a water molecule made in a laboratory an artifact? That depends on how it’s made. If scientists just ran a spark through a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen to make water, then it’s not an artifact; they’re just taking advantage of the laws of nature. But if they could bring two atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen together by manipulating the individual atoms, then they’re not just riding on the coat-tails of nature. Rather, they’re inputting some specified information into the system to create the molecule. In that case, I’d call it an artifact.


For all his sophistry, Torley hasn't progressed all that much past Joe G.  Like a cake, a molecule contains "all the information required to make it."

Olegt,

Wow! fnxtr's earlier comment came immediately to mind after reading that. I just couldn't resist sacrificing my sock over at UD:

Link
Quote
VJT,

Congratulations.

That Argument Regarding Design is so big, that there are little arguments orbiting around it.

HT: To fnxtr, Mojo Nixon, and Skid Roper.


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Date: 2010/05/02 03:11:44, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
I figured I would take a peek at ratemyprofessor.com to see if Dembski had an entry... and he does:
William Dembski at SBC

Loved this entry:
Quote
You could NOT design a worse professor.

(bolding mine)

Last entry was in March of 2007. Perhaps he hasn't been teaching much in the past three years.

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Date: 2010/05/02 04:56:34, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Quote (DiEb @ May 02 2010,04:36)
Quote (MichaelJ @ May 02 2010,04:33)
Quote (DiEb @ May 02 2010,19:10)
From Bio-Diversity's Author Guidelines:

   
Quote
To facilitate review, manuscripts should be prepared as MS Word documents (in Times or Times New Roman 12 pt with 1.5 line spacing) with numbered pages, complete with all elements (figures, tables, equations, etc.) that should be present in the final published PDF file.


They don't expect many mathematicians to publish there, I suppose...

What do mathematicians normally do?

LaTeX/TeX (it really depends on their age, I presume)

It isn't easy to generate mathematical formulas in Word - and they look like crap.

Agreed, for math there is little substitute for TeX/LaTeX. Word has always sucked for doing math. Many of my physics colleagues use Word for physics though. I prefer LyX (basically a GUI for LaTeX.) Are mathematicians still using plain TeX/LaTex?

I suppose I could go down tha hall and ask some of our new professors but... not too many of them here at 6AM on a Sunday :P

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Date: 2010/05/11 08:36:01, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Does Gordon E. Mullings have a MSc. in Physics? Linky
Apparently his office isn't just in the Administration Building, it IS the Administration Building. I guess it depends on how you interpret it. Seems he is teaching an evening class in Intro to Philosophy. Gosh that must be a fun class. Anyone know what his day job is?

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Date: 2010/05/25 21:18:16, Link 198.138.209.25
Author: utidjian
Oh man... just read that navel thread. I haven't read the direct tard in a while. I usually get it from here condensed and sanitized. That whole thread is why I am actually glad that UD is around. The whole thing is an example of Poe's Law.

Like Nakashima (congratulations BTW on your engagement) I wanted to ask BA^77 WTF he thought was so damning of evolution in his linked article on stromatolites.

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Date: 2010/07/23 11:06:55, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
Quote (Amadan @ July 23 2010,05:50)
I prophesise spilt lukewarm Coffee! over this.

David Brooks is actually OK for a conservative. I think I would more likely call him a "progressive" than a conservative since he fits almost none of the current "conservative movement"-neocon-Republican profiles.

Interesting op-ed anyhow.

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Date: 2010/07/28 00:15:25, Link 173.3.31.165
Author: utidjian
My guess is that their mods will consider being told that they are wrong as "flaming" and not allow those comments through. Especially so if the are told definitively, with examples, references, logic, and evidence and whatnot to back it up.

 

 

 

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