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Date: 2013/04/16 15:37:35, Link
Author: timothya
Chance Ratcliff contributed this at UD:

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Isnt it better to prevent the breeding of undesirables than to be forced to dispose of their offspring? It seems like a rather pragmatic solution. The holocaust could have been prevented with the similar administration of such a practicality.


Please, please, please tell me that he/she is being ironic.

Date: 2013/04/18 03:32:43, Link
Author: timothya
Oscar Wilde: "The English country gentleman galloping after a fox - the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable."

The IDist - the ineducable in pursuit of the unmeasurable.

Date: 2013/04/26 07:09:42, Link
Author: timothya
KF posts forty listed points, each of which is a matter of debate, and then prevents anyone from commenting on them.

That must be how Right Reasoning works.

Date: 2013/04/28 04:58:06, Link
Author: timothya
TheWholeTruth posted this:

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gordo obviously believes that his writings are exempt from any laws, and that only the writings by people who question or oppose him are subject to laws.


Well, no. I imagine (from his posts at UD) that he thinks there is some law (some universal justification) that turns what he says into a truth, no matter what.

But he does evidently believe that his interpretation of a verse from the the Christian bible represents the best that human thought can come up with.

Some people disagree with this idea. Mainly because some things that we now accept as true are not supported by any reference in his holy book. Which is evidence that his holy book is lacking is completeness.

Date: 2013/04/28 05:12:08, Link
Author: timothya
Kairosfocus posted this at UD:

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In some cases, some will need to pay a sufficient penalty for misbehaviour that they will be stopped cold and others will take warning that this sort of thing cannot be got away with. (Notice, how they try to twist about the idea of due sanctions for misbehaviour, into a projection of sadism, yet another false accusation or vile insinuation? Utterly telling. And maybe, just maybe, if their spoiled brattishness had been properly and sharply corrected in younger days by parents, teachers and school administrators, we would not have to face some of what we are facing at community level now.)


Is he talking about Mr Leathers? He does seem to have a fixation about punishment.

Date: 2013/04/28 05:24:29, Link
Author: timothya
I dare say that I could find the definitive reference for the term "dark triadist" if I tried hard enough. Can someone save me the effort?

Date: 2013/04/29 06:17:34, Link
Author: timothya
Over at UD, Kairosfoscus posted the following:

<QUOTE>In some cases, some will need to pay a sufficient penalty for misbehaviour that they will be stopped cold and others will take warning that this sort of thing cannot be got away with. (Notice, how they try to twist about the idea of due sanctions for misbehaviour, into a projection of sadism, yet another false accusation or vile insinuation? Utterly telling. And maybe, just maybe, if their spoiled brattishness had been properly and sharply corrected in younger days by parents, teachers and school administrators, we would not have to face some of what we are facing at community level now.)</QUOTE>

Which prompted me, incautiously, to ask:

<QUOTE>What is a sufficient penalty that some will have to pay (who is the some to whom you refer)?

What should happen to a person in this context to make them stop cold?

What is your approved form of sharp corrective for young children? In particular, what do you think represents misbehaviour by young children?</QUOTE>

And he responded with this:

<QUOTE>TA: You are trying to pull the matter off topic and playing the destructive Alinskyite personalising- polarising game. Tactic exposed, and so ineffective; so is the underlying manipulative agenda. All I will answer to it is that measures for effective disciplining of trolls in blogs are well known, and can be extended to apply to dark triad trolls in institutions and communities: unruly, disruptive and willfully destructive behaviour will meet with warning, then treated with the simple rule, three strikes and you are out. As of now, the score for you is STRIKE ONE, TA. Those for dealing with toddlers and spoiled brats as you full well know but are ignoring to play at trollish games, given known wider context depend on a case by case basis; for instance I have a fine son who, when he was a toddler, if he had been a bit rude, a symbolic light tap by two fingers on a shoulder would express sufficient disapproval to reduce him to tears of remorse and a resolve to do better. (The allusions you have made to the slanders of sadism in the penumbra of fever swamp sites, are duly noted, and underscore your status as being at STRIKE ONE.) Instead of such poisonous and pointless games, why dont you instead deal with something pivotal like the UD pro-darwinist 6,000 word feature article length essay challenge that has sat without a serious answer for over seven months now? Could this be because you have not got a sound answer on the merits, but think you can gain an advantage by playing manipulative ideological games using the tactics of a notorious neo-marxist subversive, Alinsky? If so, consider the troll game terminated. KF</QUOTE>

I sincerely hope that he discussed this post with his son before he loaded it.

Just by the by, I read and rejected Alinsky when Gordon was in short pants. Anarchists are largely a waste of mental space.

But anyway, I think I just signed myself up to The Experiment.

Date: 2013/04/29 06:47:04, Link
Author: timothya
TheWholeTruth posted this:

[QUOTE]Yeah, sure, his toddler son cried just because gordo lightly tapped him on the shoulder. Much more likely he cried because he knew that the shoulder tap was a precursor to being beaten with Mr. Leathers if he didn't instantly obey every command from his dictatorial, discipline and punishment obsessed, horrible excuse for a father.

Notice that gordo said "symbolic". Yeah, "symbolic" of the thrashings with "good Guyana cane" that his toddler son had gotten before and that was coming next. Hey gordo, does your daughter also cry when you 'symbolically' tap her on the shoulder lightly? How about your wife?</QUOTE>

You can make these claims if you wish. I can only comment on what Kairosfocus has actually posted in public, and what I have read.

Date: 2013/04/29 07:33:59, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (The whole truth @ April 29 2013,07:25)
"You can make these claims if you wish. I can only comment on what Kairosfocus has actually posted in public, and what I have read."

That's fine, but I don't understand why you felt the need to say that. My comments weren't directed at or to you and I didn't ask or expect you to agree with what I said.


He condemns himself by what he says, not by any construction that we build on top of what he says.

Date: 2013/04/29 16:18:19, Link
Author: timothya
Here is a Google translation from Il Foglio's commentary on the Napoli science centre fire:

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I have found that in the sheds of the former Italsider were being spread evolutionism, a nineteenth-century superstition still present in environments parascientific (evidently also in the residue environments songwriting). Darwinism is a form of nihilism and according to the philosopher Fabrice Hadjadj say to a guy who descended from apes means take advantage of his trusting nature to throw him into despair and cause it to behave like a monkey. They had to burn before the Science City.


Reads like gloating to me.

Date: 2013/04/30 02:58:48, Link
Author: timothya
More racist crap at UD. From Robert Byers:

 
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The story by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee. It seems to me a con job on America when these people rise above the great numbers of americans to get these writing jobs for top mags. Affirmative action maybe? Con job anyone?


As far as I can see, none of the resident moralists so much as lifted an eyebrow, let alone oiled up Mr Leathers.

I'm beginning to think that Mr Leathers is not an instrument of abuse at all, but rather an item of ornament. A rather elegant codpiece, perhaps? Worn Blackadder-style.

Date: 2013/04/30 05:29:55, Link
Author: timothya
And good on Yudhijit. A thoughtful, insightful article. This ignorant peon applauds.

Date: 2013/05/09 04:35:59, Link
Author: timothya
Presumably Ray Comfort has been rumbled as satire rather than genuine creationism, but this turned up on his Facebook page:
 
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"Except not every animal has males or females. Which Genesis neglects to mention. Why is that, Ray?" Cory KentDo you really think slugs and snails are "animals." They are not. They are what are termed invertebrates, which means they lack a backbone. They belong to a large and highly diverse group of invertebrates known as the Phylum Mollusca. You had better read Genesis again.

I honestly don't know what this is intended to mean.

Date: 2013/05/09 05:11:35, Link
Author: timothya
I have to stop this. More from Ray Comfort on Facebook:
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I never panic if the gate to our home is left open and the dog gets out. This is because I have trained him to salivate at the sound of a hand squeezed toy horn. Ever since he was a puppy he knows that if he hears that sound and responds, he gets a meat treat. He never fails to come running because he knows that I keep my word.

Isn't this an excellent description of Ray's relationship with his audience? Except that I bet his dog has worked out how to trigger the meat treat response.

Date: 2013/05/09 06:26:30, Link
Author: timothya
I've ran too, but not for legitimate reasons. Just because of the horror, the horror . . .

Date: 2013/05/14 03:38:29, Link
Author: timothya
KF recently posted this at UD:
 
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Similarly, mosaic animals such as the Platypus point to code libraries and inheritance in the object sense

Please tell me that KF does not actually believe that the platypus is literally made up of parts of a duck conjoined with parts of a beaver. Please, it can't be possible that he believes this. There must be a rational explanation for his use of the word "mosaic".

Date: 2013/05/14 04:22:36, Link
Author: timothya
Oh, good grief, perhaps this is the answer to the mosaic platypus question:

http://theatheistpig.com/2013.......latypus

It is hard to be a monotreme and a meme simultaneously. We are fortunate that memes don't have venomous hind-limb spurs.

Date: 2013/05/14 04:26:11, Link
Author: timothya
Amadan - keep away from the billabong thing, or any kind of bong - that way lies an encounter with Mr Leathers. And while we are on the topic of bonding . . . um, well let's not.

Date: 2013/05/15 06:11:46, Link
Author: timothya
KF has posted another of his summaries at UD, in which appears a set of questions that he has designed to uncover whether you (yes, you materialists; we now who you are) are psychotic, Machiavellian or narcissistic (or some combination of these maladies). Here are his questions:

1] Your empirically grounded evidence that blind chance and mechanical necessity are plausibly adequate to form a life friendly cosmos, trigger OOL and then body plans (including our own with the crucial linguistic ability) is:  ?

3] Your adequate reason for dismissing the reality of God . . . is: _ ? [Cf. here.]

4] In that context [of evident evolutionary materialism], your grounding of the credibility of the human ability to reason and know (note here onlookers) is: _, and it is best warranted as  ?

Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to:
1. treat KF's questions as rational propositions, and to provide rational answers
2. explain why any of his questions are irrational
3. propose alternative questions that address the underlying epistemic problems correctly

And, by the way, Moldova is going to win the Eurovision Song Contest this weekend. Go Moldova! Power ballads rule! Iceland will go down!!!!

This post will self-destruct in polynomial time.

Date: 2013/05/15 06:21:24, Link
Author: timothya
Silly me, I left out three other questions from KF's post:

5] In that context, your grounding of OUGHT in an IS at worldview foundation level adequate to sustain rights as more than the nihilistic, amoral might and manipulation make right . . . warned against by Plato in The Laws, Bk X, is: ? [Onlookers, cf. here, here and here for why this is absolutely important.)

6] Your best explanation for the minimal facts at the historical foundation of the Christian Faith is: ?

7] In light of the above, your best account for the system of reality we see in the world around us and in our hearts is: ?

Date: 2013/05/16 07:36:19, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Quack @ May 16 2013,06:33)
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And BTW: I believe Cascada (Natalie) is singing in Eurovision for Belgium or Germany and she bloody well better win. Or however it is that Europeans do things like that.


Before it is too late, I see comments here in Norway, that 'we' stand a good chance. So I presume we will be at least one place above the last.

Norway wins Eurovision? Meh.

What you got this year?

Date: 2013/05/18 04:13:05, Link
Author: timothya
KF included this in one of his comments at UD:
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FSCO/I is a good example, such as is manifest in this post.

I couldn't agree more.

Date: 2013/05/20 04:04:27, Link
Author: timothya
Gary Gaulin posted this:
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Take your own advice before you get yourselves in even deeper trouble with the general public and the scientific community you pretend to represent.

Are you a reformatted version of ELISA? The point of discussions is to identify important questions, and to attempt to answer them.

Otherwise you look like an algorithm chasing its own tail.

Date: 2013/05/20 04:20:51, Link
Author: timothya
Joe G posted this:
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CSI is NOT a Measure of Meaning/ Function
Well Kevin and others just have to be little baby assholes and insist that because CSI is Shannon information with meaning/ function, that means that meaning and function are measured. They are not.

Meaning and function would be observed, ie special cases of Shannon information. IOW just because something has meaning or functionality does not mean we cannot apply Shannon's technique. The bits are still there, they are just specified. It does NOT matter how meaningful or how functional.

Now, call me simple-minded, but how can something be observed if it isn't measured (minimally in some binary form such as "present" versus "not present"; in more complicated observational systems, we might apply a scale to "standardise" our observations).

Observed must surely mean "sensed and allocated to an arbitrary but objective category that I have decided is appropriate to my investigation or survival".

Doesn't it? Or am I misunderstanding my own sensory apparatuses?

Date: 2013/05/20 04:46:06, Link
Author: timothya
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I'd be interested to see his calculations regarding the necessary concentration of Mg/Ca carbonates in the oceans at around that time. All that lime hasta come from somewhere!

Limeys comes from Britain. Ancient Britons. As in The Woad Ode (also known as The Marching Song of the Ancient Britons):

wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woad_Ode

(Sung to the tune of Men of Harlech, which sounds pretty good at a Welsh rugby match)

Date: 2013/05/20 06:31:56, Link
Author: timothya
Febble:
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If you are, so am I.

You may think so, but I couldn't possibly comment.

Date: 2013/05/20 07:45:30, Link
Author: timothya
Wrong hemisphere.

Date: 2013/05/20 07:55:38, Link
Author: timothya
Will the UD blog experience a boost in interest from commenters and onlookers now that Denise O'Leary has returned to the News role?

Or will it be a dead cat bounce?

Date: 2013/05/20 08:05:28, Link
Author: timothya
Richardson/Urquhart. And I daresay that Western hemispherics probably have little idea to what we refer (a post-Thatcherite satire upon the government of Britain starring Ian Richardson). Well worth watching even if a little morally sickmaking.

Date: 2013/05/20 08:15:24, Link
Author: timothya
Schroedinger has a lot for which to answer.

Date: 2013/05/21 04:24:38, Link
Author: timothya
In another uncommentable post, KF first says this:
 
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Those distinctions [apparently distinctions we recognise via sense data] exist as realities before we recognise them and make accurate statements i.e. true ones about them.

Then later says this:
 
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Verbal games about objects being prior to axioms cut no ice when you make mistakes with red hot iron balls on tables.

Now this puzzles me. I can understand why KF thinks other peoples' methods of reasoning might be in error (verbal games), but he and his fellow IDists are guilty of precisely the error he claims that Elizabeth Liddle is making.

I suppose sensing the heat of a glowing red ball on one's skin is a necessary component of understanding the object, but that much seems to me a given fact on the level of "lion senses antelope, genetic predator response kicks in, lion legs start to run".

The base sense data and simple physiological processing of sense data don't help much in understanding more complex realities of the physics involved. In fact, much of that more complex understanding may derive from knowledge that has nothing physically to do with glowing red balls.

His approach certainly doesn't help when one is attempting to understand an object, or event, or process that has no immediate sensible presence, and which can only be understood via indirect evidence or even the absence of sensible evidence. Which is, after all, the problem involved in coming to grips with origins.

In particular, KF's (eminently reasonable) first statement flatly contradicts the proposition that biology and the cosmos can best be explained by calling on a non-object. An entity that has no physical presence, cannot be sensed, leaves no trace and cannot be interrogated by any human action.

Date: 2013/05/21 06:43:38, Link
Author: timothya
Dr Elizabeth

Every attempt I make to log into TSZ (required to make a comment) is met with a login box that says I have to provide a username, password AND match a CATCHA pattern.

The problem is that no CAPTCHA pattern is displayed for me to attempt. Am I doing something wrong?

Date: 2013/05/24 00:55:05, Link
Author: timothya
Febble

Getting a "Error establishing a database connection" error on  any page load inside the site (loads the home page OK). I seem to be authenticated correctly and have posting rights.

T

Date: 2013/05/24 04:30:16, Link
Author: timothya
Febble

I think you might have a database access or capacity problem (too many people trying to suck stuff out from the host system at once). The price you pay for running a popular site.

Of course I am happy to subcontract your site traffic at a small but perfectly formed price if I am allowed to co-opt TSZ's clientele into my International Research Project To Locate the Worst Joke In The World.

Date: 2013/05/26 05:45:05, Link
Author: timothya
DNS must update more quickly in parts of the world where marsupials congregate.

Date: 2013/05/26 06:03:46, Link
Author: timothya
And, apparently, at talk.origins.

Date: 2013/05/27 07:33:01, Link
Author: timothya
Phil posted this at UD:
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Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything from the supercomputer, Deep Thought, specially built for this purpose. It takes Deep Thought 7.5 million years to compute and check the answer, which turns out to be 42.

Phil has reached self-parody? Does this mean he has reached self-awareness?

Date: 2013/05/30 06:17:05, Link
Author: timothya
At UD, Kairosfocus posted this headline:
 
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VIDEO: Guillermo Gonzalez lectures at UC Davis on the Privileged Planet thesis

Does anyone know if this lecture was sponsored by any organisation that is part of the University of California, or was it a case of rent-a-hall?

Date: 2013/06/01 15:38:57, Link
Author: timothya
This one from Sal has almost done my head in:
Darwins Delusion vs. Death of the Fittest
Can a sentient being please explain what he means? My brain hurts.

Date: 2013/06/02 00:00:51, Link
Author: timothya
Anatole France, actually:

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

The concept being that, although equal condemnation under the law was guaranteed to both social classes, it had little application to the wealthy.

Which is indeed the point about "reverse sexism" and "reverse racism".

Date: 2013/06/03 04:24:30, Link
Author: timothya
From a recent UD post title:

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Does being a horror novelist help Stephen King understand intelligent design?


Ummmm, yes. Fiction is like that.

Date: 2013/06/06 03:41:47, Link
Author: timothya
What is the significance of this one from Denyse O'Leary?

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US government monitors its citizens e-mails?
June 5, 2013 Posted by News under Intelligent Design
2 Comments
Probably. But, this would have to be a reason:

Just the knowledge that Darwin denial exists could be a problem for some in authority these days to advise you never to read a Darwin-doubting book.

Doubting the establishment version of evolution is a big problem for Darwins tax-funded, tenured dullards. Whom you will support to the end of your days.

Look, I was there at Cornell in 2011, when the papers noted above and now published so you can read them were delivered.

People, hear me: I have heard every lie and dealt with Darwins thugs, and fended off many attempts to obfuscate the issues.

I have personally (D OLeary, b. 1950,Canada, d of JP OLeary) been a victim of atheist smears and slanders which tell you more than anything else you might wish to know about what Darwinists further influence in public affairs will mean. Whether they claim to be Christians or not. If they misrepresent their position to Christians, more shame to those Christians who are willing to believe it, instead of consulting more responsible authorities.


Paranoia? Caffeine overload? Saw something nasty in the woodshed?

Date: 2013/06/06 04:37:28, Link
Author: timothya
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Platonic forms do not suggest we evolved from fish

Neither do:
1. telephone books
2. the rings of Saturn
3. polymictic conglomerates
4. the International Order of Oddfellows
5. the collected poems of William MacGonagall

Sal is indulging in what David Deutsch called A Bad Explanation ("good explanations are hard to vary").

And why are these creationists so keen on Plato and so down on Socrates? Oh . . . I think I just answered my own question.

Date: 2013/06/06 08:59:00, Link
Author: timothya
OgreMkV:
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Then they blame Darwin, the scientific conspiracy, and Obama for their poor reasoning skills, poor writing skills, and lack of knowledge.

I vote for the woodshed thing, at least it had a happy ending.

Date: 2013/06/06 09:46:55, Link
Author: timothya
Following the trail from UD to a description of the recently published proceedings of an ID conference, Biological Information: New Perspectives
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1) Information is indispensable to our understanding of what life is; 2) Biological information is more than the material structures that embody it; 3) Conventional chemical and evolutionary mechanisms seem insufficient to fully explain the labyrinth of information that is life.

Hmmmm . . .
1) Information is indispensable to our understanding of what life is . . .
Yup, it is difficult to understand life if we can't communicate its regularities using information. Oh, you mean the information <i>in</i> the regularities. OK, but the information in the regularities of life can only be understood using the encoding of human language. <scratches epistemological bump>
2) . . . Biological information is more than the material structures that embody it . . .
What you mean "is more than", paleface?
I will believe you when you stop assuming what you are obliged to demonstrate. What does "more" mean in your world? How do we measure this "more". Let's go further. If "biological information" is objectively measurable (which is what you claim with your CSIs and FIASCOs and whatnot), then show me how, when, where and in what way these measurements justify the conclusion that there is more to material structures than the information we humans can extract from them?
3) Conventional chemical and evolutionary mechanisms seem insufficient to fully explain the labyrinth of information that is life.
They seem to be so, do they? According to whom? By what criteria? Under what experimental regimes? Please stop playing games with other people's data and produce some of your own

Date: 2013/06/07 04:36:44, Link
Author: timothya
He said in a different thread that he was dealing with a bereavement.

Date: 2013/06/09 14:23:20, Link
Author: timothya
Sounds like Joe belongs to the "pi equals three" brigade.

Date: 2013/06/11 04:07:24, Link
Author: timothya
At UD:

"Here Is How Gnosticism Informs Evolution"

I must admit I muttered a sotto voce WTF when this headline pierced my eyeballs.

The entire linked article appears to be about how various flavours of pro-evolutionary religious thinking are "gnostic". This may be true, but requires more knowledge of the intricacies of religion than I can muster.

But so what. How would gnosticism inform evolutionary biology? I thought gnosticism carried the connotation of cryptic knowledge. What use cryptic knowledge would be in the world of science baffles me, unless patent applications qualify.

Date: 2013/06/11 04:37:22, Link
Author: timothya
Sometimes I reconsider my self-imposed ban on commenting at UD when I read the non sequiturs, deliberate mis-statements and fanciful unscientific conjectures.

However, a combination of the News' spam-posting, low comment rate per post, and the excellent contributions of passing pot-stirrers makes me think there is a dead cat tremble going on. The only threads that get above five comments are those rehashing explicitly religious beliefs.

Long may it continue. It is probably our species' best defence against invasion by alien civilisations.

Date: 2013/06/11 07:12:45, Link
Author: timothya
I don't know if this is the right place to post a comment about this matter. There is a post on Pharyngula that points to a story about one of the Sandy Hook families:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nationa....ry.html

The only thing I can think of saying to Mark and Jackie is this: we try to put ourselves in your case. For what it is worth, that is what humans can do. I'm sure that anyone who reads the story will wish you peace.

Date: 2013/06/11 07:40:16, Link
Author: timothya
Quote
..Or we could just stir each other's pots..what sort of Aliens?

Aliens who decide, sensibly, to avoid planets inhabited by organisms infected with self-destructive beliefs.

Date: 2013/06/11 16:19:08, Link
Author: timothya
Introduce him to transcendental equations, that should keep the stupid going.

Date: 2013/06/13 07:59:46, Link
Author: timothya
At UD:

"Evolutionary Prediction About Humans"

Googly eyes are a prediction of evolutionary biology? Where did this come from? It is certainly true that if you combine access to Photoshop with a febrile imagination you will get . . . something strange.

Date: 2013/06/17 05:40:32, Link
Author: timothya
This is a real sequence: (as of today, if that is a clue)

0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 14, 4, 13, 4, 12, 1, 1, 6, 2, 5, 2, 8, 0, 4, 24, 12, 3, 4, 6, 2, 26, 7, 31, 4, 1, 0, 14, 6, 5, 3, 6, 0, 7, 0, 59, 38, 26, 2, 4, 2, 5, 4, 2, 7, 3, 5, 3, 81, 10, 10, 0, 6, 37, 0, 6, 11, 11, 76, 18, 4, 4, 29, 162, 4, 1, 1, 0, 90, 6

What does it signify? What correlates would help explain the big vs small values?

Date: 2013/06/17 06:07:06, Link
Author: timothya
Yes. Comments on UD posts during June, so far.

Explanatory hypotheses so far:

1. Identity of poster
2. Subject of post

Other hypotheses that have occurred to me:

3. Clustering - commenting activity on a post prompts more activity on following posts
4. Bjornagain comments represent automatic responses and should be discarded as random noise (possibly also true of other UD choir-singers)
5. Some activity correlates with choir-related subjects
6. Some activity correlates with the presence of challengers (RDFish, for example).
7. Is there a conspiracy to demonstrate the UD dead cat bounce by challengers refusing to engage?

Date: 2013/06/17 06:28:14, Link
Author: timothya
If we treated the UD commentary as a time series of the "real" level of interest in the topics being posted, what would we delete before we calculated the analysis of variance?

Date: 2013/06/23 07:38:14, Link
Author: timothya
From Kairosfocus at UD:
 
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This is not a genuine petition, on track record of too many casesit is a license for mob-driven witch hunts, media lynchings and unjustified career busting driven by toxic slanders, willful misinformation, rage fed by hostility and stereotyping misrepresentations. But already, there is a push to tyrannise on conscience that has not been seen in a very long time, and it is going to lead to an awful mess if unchecked. Platos warning on nihilist, amoral, evolutionary materialist factions is coming true.

The awful mess appears to have been supplied already.

Date: 2013/06/26 07:45:01, Link
Author: timothya
From Denyse O'Leary:
 
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Knock us over with a paper clip.

Over at Evolution News & Views, Casey Luskin asks, could P. Z. Myers even possibly have read Steve Meyers Darwins Doubt before writing a long essay trashing it?:

Yup, you got knocked over by a stationery item.

What, exactly, is your competence as a journalist? Do you have difficulty in working out who wrote what?

You might do better if you hire a fact checker.

I haven't stopped laughing yet.

Date: 2013/07/06 15:43:16, Link
Author: timothya
From KF:
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So to be able to speak for record in the teeth of abusive steamroller tactics is important.

Does he have a mixed metaphor machine under his desk? This one is truly gruesome.

Date: 2013/07/06 15:59:25, Link
Author: timothya
KF calls this dogmatic:
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The principal product of science is knowledge in the form of naturalistic concepts and the laws and theories related to those concepts . . . .[[S]cience, along with its methods, explanations and generalizations, must be the sole focus of instruction in science classes to the exclusion of all non-scientific or pseudoscientific methods, explanations, generalizations and products . . . .Although no single universal step-by-step scientific method captures the complexity of doing science, a number of shared values and perspectives characterize a scientific approach to understanding nature. Among these are a demand for naturalistic explanations supported by empirical evidence that are, at least in principle, testable against the natural world. Other shared elements include observations, rational argument, inference, skepticism, peer review and replicability of work . . . .Science, by definition, is limited to naturalistic methods and explanations and, as such, is precluded from using supernatural elements in the production of scientific knowledge. [NSTA, Board of Directors, July 2000. Emphases added.]

And then offers Newton as a "corrective":
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As in Mathematicks, so in Natural Philosophy, the Investigation of difficult Things by the Method of Analysis, ought ever to precede the Method of Composition. This Analysis consists in making Experiments and Observations, and in drawing general Conclusions from them by Induction, and admitting of no Objections against the Conclusions, but such as are taken from Experiments, or other certain Truths. For Hypotheses are not to be regarded in experimental Philosophy. And although the arguing from Experiments and Observations by Induction be no Demonstration of general Conclusions; yet it is the best way of arguing which the Nature of Things admits of, and may be looked upon as so much the stronger, by how much the Induction is more general. And if no Exception occur from Phaenomena, the Conclusion may be pronounced generally. But if at any time afterwards any Exception shall occur from Experiments, it may then begin to be pronounced with such Exceptions as occur. By this way of Analysis we may proceed from Compounds to Ingredients, and from Motions to the Forces producing them; and in general, from Effects to their Causes, and from particular Causes to more general ones, till the Argument end in the most general. This is the Method of Analysis: And the Synthesis consists in assuming the Causes discoverd, and establishd as Principles, and by them explaining the Phaenomena proceeding from them, and proving the Explanations.

I can't, for the life of me, see how the NSTA and Newton are saying anything to contradict each other.

Date: 2013/07/08 03:50:49, Link
Author: timothya
Niwrad is given posting rights at UD and produces this:
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Corollary of the 2nd law.In an isolated system, organization never increases spontaneously. Hence the 2nd law refutes evolution.

Doing well until the end of the first sentence.

Date: 2013/07/08 06:22:00, Link
Author: timothya
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Anybody beside BA77 left without posting privileges?

Please, yes. Oh, please, please, please may His Noodly Appendages reach down and grant us evidence of a supernatural event. Please allow Quantum Woo Joy to be unconstrained.

Damn, I have to stop doing the praying thing.

Date: 2013/07/08 07:51:39, Link
Author: timothya
I sometimes wish that creationists had to consciously suffer the SLoT consequences of their stupid.

Date: 2013/08/24 02:19:05, Link
Author: timothya
Byers at UD:
 
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No true Christian has ever called for the murder of Jews or gays either. However many Jews and gays have murdered many people in the european struggles.True Christians can not murder. Thats the point of being Born again.Isnt Cohen a Jewish name? Smells like a attack from a identity eh?

Offered sans commentary.

Date: 2013/08/24 05:05:53, Link
Author: timothya
Tjguy follows Byers with this:
 
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Robert, I think it is a bit of an overstatement to say that true Christians cannot murder. I understand what you are saying, but everyone is human and given the right circumstances, who knows? For the most part I think u r right, but are you saying that God cannot forgive murder? While King David was not a true Christian, he was a man after Gods own heart and we know what happened.

To what does Tjguy's clause "For the most part I think you are right" refer? Does he mean Byers' antisemitic and homophobic contribution? Is it this bit that "for the most part", he thinks is right?
Byers:
 
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No true Christian has ever called for the murder of Jews or gays either. However many Jews and gays have murdered many people in the european struggles.True Christians can not murder. Thats the point of being Born again.Isnt Cohen a Jewish name? Smells like a attack from a identity eh?

When will the Big Tent own up to the obvious fact that they are sheltering some deeply disgusting people.

Date: 2013/08/24 05:25:46, Link
Author: timothya
And Phil is certain that Muslims deserved the Crusades:
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Speaking of the Crusades, which many non-Christians like to point to, along with the inquisition, as an example of Christian brutality, and which were definitely not shining moments in Christian history, it is, none-the-less, interesting to note the perpetual cycle of terror perpetrated on peaceful Christians (and non-Christians) for hundreds of years by the Muslims, A perpetual cycle of terror which preceded the Crusades and ehich Christians are never told about in secular universities. A perpetual terror upon peaceful people which had finally lead up to the backlash witnessed in the Crusades:Islamic Atrocities Provoked the Crusades videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTY5izhTDoIslam A History Of Terror, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8YIn Depth History of the Muslim Religion | William J Federer videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA0Hgf1CAfs

Yep. Yep. The Christian history of Islam should be accepted as a matter of course.

Date: 2013/08/29 05:57:14, Link
Author: timothya
If there is a particle physicist in the house, could you answer a simple-minded question about quantum entanglement.

How much energy is required to separate two entangled particles by a macroscopic distance? I think I mean the total energy required for the system as a whole, not the energy trapped inside the particles.

Date: 2013/08/29 21:43:21, Link
Author: timothya
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The actual energy used is way higher than that which would be required for a single particle pair. First, one must do a large number of pairs to get a statistical ensemble. My understanding (OlegT can chime in here, PM him perhaps) is that the meaning of a wavefunction for a single pair is more problematic than for an ensemble. One must run the instruments that do the detection. One must do specific manipulations to prepare the state in the entangled state.

My reason for asking concerns the claims made by woo-merchants who witter on about "quantum consciousness" and suchlike. My reading is that the energy required to make any use of the phenomenon would make your brain leak out of your ears.

Date: 2013/08/29 21:57:12, Link
Author: timothya
Barry Arrington offers us the state of his understanding of gravitational theory:
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Scientists are not exempt from the why game. And it may surprise my readers to learn that they get to the thats just the way it is stage fairly quickly.

Why does water run downhill?

Because things fall down; water is a thing and when it runs downhill it is merely falling down.

Why?

Because gravity makes things fall down.

Why?

Thats just the way it is.

Why does gravity operate the way that it does instead of some other way? The scientist has no better explanation for that question than the theologian.

Unbelievable. Even from a religiously motivated political hack.

Barry, to understand why gravity operates the way it does, and not some other way, try learning about "connection fields". Sean Carroll provides an excellent introduction in his book about the Higgs.

Date: 2013/08/30 15:43:33, Link
Author: timothya
A new SI Unit is born: the Arrington. The Arrington measures wilful ignorance.

The Arrington is a relative unit. It combines the current state of knowledge (expressed in Eurekas), the definition of free will (expressed in Weejums) and the objective measurement of ignorance (expressed in Feverswamps).

Febble et al. have found cases where the Arrington takes on negative values. They propose an alternative unit for this range: the Pustule.

Date: 2013/09/10 07:48:00, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD posts this:

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Lukianoff: The Hayden Barnes case is not just outrageous because the student was kicked out of college for a collage, its outrageous because, as best I can tell, virtually none of his fellow students or professors raised a finger to help.


Now, my question is: what is the benchmark for free speech in a university?

Is it now?

Or is it the early 1950s when contradicting a certain Senator from Wisconsin got you a one-way ticket to unemployment?

Is it 1968 when the Berkeley Free Speech Movement asked people to speak honestly about why they disagreed with the policy of their government, and the government took a few years to think about it and then responded at Kent State?

What exactly does UD's News person regard as "free speech"? Speech that agrees it?

Date: 2013/09/15 16:04:03, Link
Author: timothya
Sal on charity:
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Many of my professors and mentors were Darwinists. An ex-girlfriend was a Darwinist, but her being a democrat was more of a disqualifier.

I must be charitable and assume the undercapitalisation was unintentional.

Date: 2013/09/15 16:44:09, Link
Author: timothya
Niwrad on charity:
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Darkness exists because there isnt enough light. Darwinism/atheism exist because we IDers/theists are not smart enough to show the splendour of God and His designs. Lets continue to retry with patience, the patience of the Truth, patiens quia aeterna.

Given an infinity of time and an endless supply of hammers, it is just possible Niwrad might eventually conclude that the square peg of religion will never fit the round hole of evidence.

The first sentence is so wonderfully vacuous that it qualifies for the sigline shop. IDiots have always reminded me of Phil The Prince of Insufficient Light, but it isn't often they come right out and state it so plainly.

Date: 2013/09/19 04:02:06, Link
Author: timothya
From the inimitable Axel:
 
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Its just that the odds against the coincidence of that range of fine-tuning are so huge they are effectively notional. Something like a much vaster number than there are sub-atomic particles in the universe, I believe.

Help me out here - how do you assign "odds against coincidence" after something has already happened (which assigns it a probability of 1) and when you can have access to no more than a single sample?

Surely any estimate would have an infinitely wide confidence interval.

What does his formulation mean?

Date: 2013/09/27 16:43:08, Link
Author: timothya
Please tell me the UD thread quote from William Lane Craig is a fraud:
 
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Rather, since our moral duties are determined by Gods commands, it is commanding someone to do something which, in the absence of a divine command, would have been murder. The act was morally obligatory for the Israeli soldiers in virtue of Gods command, even though, had they undertaken it on their on initiative, it would have been wrong.

On divine command theory, then, God has the right to command an act, which, in the absence of a divine command, would have been sin, but which is now morally obligatory in virtue of that command.

Surely it must be. It can't really represent how he constructs his morality.

Date: 2013/09/27 17:33:56, Link
Author: timothya
If science is logic constrained by evidence, then I am at a loss to find a description of Lane Craig's mode of reasoning:
 
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The act was morally obligatory for the Israeli soldiers in virtue of Gods command, even though, had they undertaken it on their on initiative, it would have been wrong.

But they did undertake it on their own initiative, unless he is abandoning his own notions of free will. Christian apologetics certainly is a strange mental landscape.

Date: 2013/10/02 02:23:24, Link
Author: timothya
Barry's Inconsequentialism at UD:
 
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Walter White is a consequentialist. Over the course of the show he justifies every evil act by appeals to a greater good that will result from the evil he commits. Producing illegal meth? How else is he going to get enough money to leave his family a little nest egg? Killing a captured drug dealer? I have to kill him to cover my tracks and provide for my family. By the end of the show Walt has committed numerous murders and even poisoned a young boy to further his own selfish ends, and every step of the way he says he is going it for the family.

Is Barry really this obtuse? He is describing a character who is the opposite of a consequentialist. Drug dealing concentrates wealth in the hands of the dealer by spreading misery as widely as possibly among the addicted. What "greater good" is Walter pursuing? Even the benefit of his family doesn't stack up against the loss of benefit amongst his clientele.

If he wants to use analogies to argue for his sectarian brand of morality, Barry would do well at least to get them right.

Date: 2013/10/02 02:55:12, Link
Author: timothya
Here is my favourite Irreducibly Complex Object (apologies for any copyright violation involved):

Date: 2013/10/04 15:38:24, Link
Author: timothya
Brent:
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There are annihilations of people groups that are justified.

If we found a people group that was hell-bent on killing every person outside their own society, they would deserve to be wiped out (even though they are following their morality, right naturalists???).

Hmmm . . . let me think about that for a minute.

Wait a sec, we don't need the hypothetical "if we found" bit. We actually have an example of such a group. In the case of the Canaanites, the Israelites were demonstrably "hell-bent on killing everyone outside their own society". Excepting virgins, naturally.

I wonder if Brent ever considers where his twisted morality leads.

Date: 2013/10/10 00:57:43, Link
Author: timothya
A numerologist at play at UD:
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As an aside, Ive always thought Christians had an easier path to understanding the universe than atheists. For example, when Newton proposed that Gravitational force is inversely proportional to the Square of the distance between two masses. For an orderly, designed universe, this makes sense why wouldnt it be something nice and even, like the square of the distance? For someone who believes in a random universe though why the Square? Why not r ^ 2.148273? or r ^ 1.932157? The universe is full of nice, neat relationships like this, at very fundamental levels moreso than not. I find the ability of the atheist to accept so many coincidences nothing short of astonishing.

Date: 2013/10/14 00:16:53, Link
Author: timothya
Along with some christobabble, UD now resurrects vitalism:
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The essense of life that animates the matter that trees and people physically consist of is immaterial. A human body weighs exactly the same both before and immediately following death. The difference, the life force is immaterial, and once it leaves, the body left behind has gone from animate to inanimate matter.

Apparently human death can circumvent the 2LoT. Neat trick. I'm surprised their resident physicists haven't jumped all over that one. Is it the Perpetual Immateriality Machine or the Perpetually Immaterial Machine?

Date: 2013/10/14 00:35:25, Link
Author: timothya
The UD creationists are starting to eat each other:

It doesn't matter if I can't add up

Date: 2013/10/14 04:57:55, Link
Author: timothya
What does Mapou mean by this at UD?
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Good question. Its a big problem but once you realize that space (distance) is an illusion or perception, the problem just vanishes.

Infinity is a ruse, a lie. Believing in infinity is like wearing blinders.

Does she/he mean that there is no mathematical proof that there is no largest number?

Date: 2013/10/14 05:22:30, Link
Author: timothya
Being utterly wrong about science equals being right about theology:

An Orthodox Rabbi Ventures into the World of Evidence

Nope. Your premises are wrong, so your conclusions are wrong.

Date: 2013/10/14 05:42:14, Link
Author: timothya
Thanks for the heads-up. I've seen that loon at work elsewhere.

Date: 2013/10/20 02:04:58, Link
Author: timothya
From News at UD:
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Its unwise to simply discount legends; they are usually based on something, if only because few human beings have the imagination to invent a durable icon without any materials from nature at all.

Some questions:
1. Are there any "sea serpent legends" from the Eastern Pacific that could credibly be related to the presence of the oarfish in those waters?
2. Is there any evidence that "sea serpent legends" from elsewhere in the world are credibly related to the oarfish?
3. Is there any evidence that "few human beings have the imagination to invent a durable icon without any materials from nature"?

Not being an icthyologist, I will only attempt an answer to the third question.

No, the idea that "few human beings have the imagination to invent a durable icon without any materials from nature" is contraindicated because:
a. The Mormon theology
b. The Yahweh theology
c. The Muslim theology
d. The Jesus theology
e. Bigfoot
f. The power of crystals
g. The healing power of prayer
h. Homeopathy
i. The effects of quantum physics on the operation of brain function
j. Deepak Chopra
k. Creation science
l. Intelligent design
m. Postmodernism
n. Supply-side economics
remain significantly popular without any material evidence for the existence of the causal processes proposed.

Let woo be unconstrained.

Date: 2013/10/20 23:16:11, Link
Author: timothya
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You forgot scientology...


I think it is covered by "The power of crystals". As in "You must have rocks in your head to believe that rubbish."

Date: 2013/10/24 00:11:16, Link
Author: timothya
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. I will never again trust another of BjornAgain's URLs.

Date: 2013/10/24 00:18:17, Link
Author: timothya
From UD:
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Si comprehendis, non est deus (If you comprehend it, it is not God)

Augustine of Hippo

I love that quote. I think it should be inscribed on the every God of the Gappist's banner.

Though a better rendition would be, "Once you understand something, you realise no magic is involved."

Date: 2013/10/24 00:35:12, Link
Author: timothya
I know it is gratuitous perversity to take pleasure in watching train wrecks, but really . . .

Robert Byers at UD:
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I dont think thee is such a thing as logic. I think logic like math is a human construction.
Instead there are just accurate conclusions in relationship with other accurate conclusions. So logic may fit in this as a special case. However logic works fine even if wrong conclusions are drawn. This because logic works upon presumptions of facts. So logic is not a real thing of truth but only a coincedence if it works.

Date: 2013/10/28 02:26:44, Link
Author: timothya
Querius at UD explains the epistemic basis of creationism:
 
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In my view, heres why an ID proponent can demand examples of the proposed natural process of macro-evolution, while the Darwinist cannot demand the same of the ID proponent.

Theres an asymmetry between a Darwinist ascribing a natural process to account for the presumed macro-evolutionary elaboration and adaptation over geologic time, and an ID proponent ascribing an unidentified intelligent agent for the same results, though through different means. Whether this intelligent agent is natural or supernatural is also unspecified, and the ID proponent also makes no claims regarding the means, while the Darwinist of necessity must do so.

Can't be clearer than that.

And then explains why:
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In the beginning was the Word (logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 NIV

I have always thought that the obsession among creationists with asserting the primacy of words over real-world evidence is worth closer scrutiny. Perhaps I shall write a logos or two on the matter.

Date: 2013/10/28 06:23:37, Link
Author: timothya
Kairosfocus' version of reality:
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Well, there is an old duppy story of the man who saw a duppy, noticed the teeth and fled, runing as hard as he could till he could run no farther. He stopped by a new wall, and someone was standing there.

Man, why you run so hard till you stitch and panting?

Duppy by the grave yard . . . show him teeth.

Teeth like-a these?

ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!

Here endeth the lesson.

As my mom was so fond of quoting, a word to the wise.

Gordon, just stop for a minute and think about what your readers are going to make of that story. In particular, in what way is it an argument in favour of supernatural designers?

Date: 2013/10/29 04:51:20, Link
Author: timothya
Some ideas deserve to be pondered. Robert Byers at UD:
 
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T rex had small arms because he walked on them first. He ate plants. at the fall or soon after he was one type that had to kill its food. So instantly rose up on his n legs. In fact he is a relative of some that stayed on all fours.
the head was for the kill. Otherwise he was too light to bring down anyone.
He was just a twist on creatures and probably not that impressive.
The analogy is the big kangaroos. Hes not a kangaroo but is like them a oversized type of a small one due to special area issues.

Special area issues may explain why there are no oversized frogs. Or perhaps not.

I know it is unfair, but I do like the idea of n legs.

Date: 2013/11/10 23:49:31, Link
Author: timothya
From k.e.:
 
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Can you imagine HRH Gem of Tiki's voice mail?

ring ring:10
(Regent's Answering Phone)Click:"I'm sorry the person you are calling isn't available now. Please leave a message after the tone...BEEEP"
Gordo:Wah yah duh mon? Are yuh pon Ganja? Yuh cyaan sack maas Bill.Di lawd Jah will get yuh.
(Regent's Answering Phone)BEEEP Click:

Oh come on, GEM could never be as concise as that (even with his egregious truncations).

Date: 2013/11/11 04:14:39, Link
Author: timothya
If you live in south-eastern Australia, you are likely to have encountered birds known as honeyeaters. Honeyeaters are a common type of bird in Australia, and are a wonderful example of species radiation. Depending on how you choose to apply the definition of a species, there are dozens or perhaps hundreds of lineages.

Anyway, this story is about a single nesting. At my partner's house, we noticed that a pair of honeyeaters were building a nest inside the foliage of a cordyline plant in the garden. I am pretty sure they were New Holland honeyeaters (Phylidonyris novaehollandiae): http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/sites......abQ59V1 (image from birdsinbackyards.net). They certainly had the striated underbelly.

Later, a pair of honeyeaters hatched some nestlings. But, the parent birds were clearly from a different species. This is one of the nesters (Blue-faced honeyeater: Entomyzon cyanotis):
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/sites......gc9rx6s (image from birdsinbackyards.net). Its common name is the Banana Bird, which makes it interesting to find it in the southern highlands of New South Wales (think Florida versus Canada).

One interesting thing (remarked on by Australian ornithologists) is that "Most [blue-faced honeyeater] nests are made on the abandoned nests of Grey-crowned Babblers, Noisy, Silver-crowned and Little Friarbirds, Noisy Miner, Red Wattlebird, Australian Magpie, Magpie-Lark and, rarely, butcherbirds or the Chestnut-crowned Babbler. Sometimes the nests are not modified, but often they are added to and relined." (http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/species/Entomyzon-cyanotis)

Did the blue-faced folk ask permission of the novaehollandaiae folk or did they just barge in and take over?

And then another interesting thing. Honeyeaters often practice "cooperative breeding":

"The Blue-faced Honeyeater forms breeding pairs, and may sometimes be a cooperative breeder, where immature birds help the main breeding pair to feed nestlings." (http://www.birdlife.org.au/bird-profile/blue-faced-honeyeater). Sure enough, three adults pop up at the nest with food for the nestlings (honeyeaters are mainly insectivorous, despite their name).

The nestlings are the ultimate alarm clock. As soon as the eastern sky lightens, they begin to carry on at the top of their voices (stupid, ignorant, insensitive birds).

And one other interesting thing. Another species of honeyeater regularly visits the nest, the White-eared honeyeater Lichenostomus leucotus):
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/species....eucotis (image from birdsinbackyards.net)

The white ear doesn't seem to feed the nestlings, but it turns up every ten minutes to take a look. As does a tiny finch that I haven't been able to identify. I would post my own pics, but I can't work out how to embed them in this editor.

Date: 2013/11/18 14:07:17, Link
Author: timothya
http://www.uncommondescent.com/science....science

What on Earth does O'Leary mean?

Date: 2013/11/19 02:20:27, Link
Author: timothya
KF at UD (Comment 32) http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-nicely
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The problem we face is that in our time, thanks to the dressing up of the ancient chaos-force of evolutionary materialism in the lab coat, elites and fellow travellers have been busily digging away at the foundations of the dam that restrains the barbarism of the clan blood feud.

I can read the words on the screen, but I am stuffed if I can understand what he means.

And while I am at it, what is this weird X rape-torture-murder story meant to signify? All I can tell from his narrative is that his story is a justification for homophobia on the basis of collective guilt.

Date: 2013/11/25 00:57:37, Link
Author: timothya
What caused this eruption of ahistorical nonsense? Is it Hug a Bigot Day among the IDiota?

Date: 2013/11/25 03:54:42, Link
Author: timothya
Unwin's morality:

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When absolute monogamy is the rule, marriage is a means whereby a man secures domestic labour and heirs of his blood. A wife and her children are under the domination of her husband; in the eyes of the law he alone is an entity. The wife is taught to submit to her husband in all things ; it is her duty to serve him and to obey him. No woman may have sexual relations with any other man than with him whom she marries as a virgin. When she is married, she is not permitted to withhold conjugal rights. In an absolutely monogamous society female chastity becomes desirable for its own sake, for after a while the women accept as a point of honour the restraint imposed upon them by their lords.


Now think about that statement for a moment. Consider one of the most successful social organisations of the 19th Century: the slave society of the Confederacy.

1. Was monogamy the rule of sexual relations among inhabitants of the slave states? Or were the slavemasters granted the (whip-granted) right of sexual congress with any woman under their control?
2. Were women and their children in an evidently successful slave society under the "domination of their husbands"? Or were they under the domination of the slavemaster who could divide their families and sell them off et seriatim for a profit?
3. Was a wife in an evidently successful slave society "taught to submit to her husband in all things ; it is her duty to serve him and to obey him"? Or was she taught to submit to the person holding the whip?
4. "No woman may have sexual relations with any other man than with him whom she marries as a virgin." In an evidently successful slave society, how could a slave woman deny the slavemaster control of who she had sexual congress with? By what means? How can this be stated as a general rule?
5. "When she is married, she is not permitted to withhold conjugal rights." What a convenient definitional inexactitude. Were slave women "married" in anything like the modern sense of a free contract between a man and a woman? Does this filthy, racist, mysoginistic dipstick really believe that a woman signs away all her future when she signs on the dotted line?
6. "In an absolutely monogamous society female chastity becomes desirable for its own sake, for after a while the women accept as a point of honour the restraint imposed upon them by their lords." OK, since an "absolutely monogomous [sic] society" has evidently never existed, any conclusions you draw from from that assumption are invalid. You may not have realised you have jumped from an invalid assumption to a false conclusion, but it is our job to point out that your chain of reasoning is, how should I put this politely . . . brain dead.

Date: 2013/11/25 05:39:17, Link
Author: timothya
What is this "wolf pack" behaviour that His Moral Amplitude has decided to hang his argument upon?

Surely he can't be relying on USA Today. Tell me it ain't so.

Date: 2013/12/03 01:21:40, Link
Author: timothya
StephenB's contribution to epistemology included:
 
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The Ten Commandments are nothing more than the Natural Moral Law made explicit.

I'm at a loss what is naturally immoral about making graven images of imaginary heavenly things, or coveting your neighbours' chattels (as opposed to treating dependents as chattel property in the first place).

Why is disrespecting your parents naturally immoral (some parents surely deserve disrespect). Why is "keeping the seventh day holy" a naturally moral obligation? Why not every fifth, or third, or thirteenth?

And why is it not a violation of natural moral law that the Ten Commandments make no condemnation of rape or slavery?

Date: 2013/12/04 01:09:17, Link
Author: timothya
StephenB:
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Can Jupiter exist and not exist at the same time as an ontological reality?

I fell about laughing when I read this beauty. Any number of commenters have pointed out that the Law of Noncontradiction relies for its application on the categories in question having definite boundaries. So what example does this pompous windbag decide to use? A gas-planet that has no defined physical boundary.

I can observe Jupiter from a great distance and be certain I am not "on Jupiter". But if I approach Jupiter, at what point can I say I am on its surface? Pretty obviously, there is no such point - all the way to the centre of the planet!

Evidently, Jupiter can simultaneously exist and not exist as an ontological reality. What a hoot.

Date: 2013/12/30 14:09:54, Link
Author: timothya
Robert Byers has this to say at UD concerning a "creationist movie":
 
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The directer here is Jewish and this Jewish presence stands in the way of a movie industry that balances the nations beliefs.

It has been sitting there for three days and nobody at the site has criticised him for it.

Date: 2014/01/02 02:48:28, Link
Author: timothya
Didn't the results of the Sloan Deep Sky Survey contradict Halton Arp's cosmological hypothesis?

Date: 2014/01/02 03:07:04, Link
Author: timothya
Anyone want to bet against "The Church of Atheism" will be a recurring theme at UD in 2014?

Date: 2014/01/02 03:08:53, Link
Author: timothya
Anyone want to bet against "The Church of Atheism" being a recurring theme at UD in 2014?

Date: 2014/01/04 17:26:00, Link
Author: timothya
As in, "I am knot a male nurse"?

Date: 2014/01/06 20:31:30, Link
Author: timothya
I thought the eel migration thing was taken as evidence for continental drift.

Date: 2014/01/10 14:07:22, Link
Author: timothya
At UD, News posted an article entitled "Fossils of Australasian tree unexpectedly found in South America". Note that the word "unexpected" does not occur in the ScienceDaily report; it is News' contribution.

Unexpected to whom? Anyone familiar with the biogeography of southern gymnosperms, if asked where to search for fossil specimens of Agathis outside of its extant range, would immediately say, "South America!". Tectonic movement + common descent > expected result.

Date: 2014/02/17 05:30:13, Link
Author: timothya
"Jerry" at UD posted this:
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Despite being mocked by Voltaire, I believe that Leibniz got it right. This is the best of all possible worlds. We just do not know or understand what is meant by best. A benevolent world is definitely not a best world. Why would an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent God not create the best or all possible worlds?

So the worm eating out the boys eye is part of best. I am sure with a little thought we can think of much more gross or horrible examples. But they are all trivial compared to what is being offered, at least by the Christian God.

So Attenborough should look to other possible gods to condemn but not the Christian God.

Now consider how many mistakes can be crammed into three paragraphs:
1. A grammatical error in the first sentence (Jerry: a qualifying clause is assumed to be related to the subject of the sentence. In your contribution, that would be "I"). I doubt that Voltaire had the foreknowledge to mock you, but that is the plain meaning of your statement, so I suppose you know what you mean.
2. Liebniz argues from logic that "this must be the best of all possible worlds because we are in it". Voltaire then writes a book (Candide) pointing out that Liebniz conflates a claim from logic ("this must be the best of all possible worlds") with a claim from evidence ("because we are in it"). Voltaire has a lot of fun with Liebniz's solipsism. Jerry missed that bit.
3. Jerry then says that we (what you mean "we", paleface?) don't know what "best" means. Yes, well OK, but who ever made such a claim? I don't think it is an extraorordinary claim that most people can tell the difference between "better" and "worse", at least as far as the world affects them. I suspect that most Congolese can tell that it is better not to have your hands chopped off if you pilfer a diamond in the mines. I suspect that most women know it is better that they should be able to go about their business without some men assuming they (the women) are available for sex.
4. Next we get: "A benevolent world is definitely not a best world." Here is a clue, Jerry. Before you get to use an adjective such as "benevolent" in relation to the noun "world", you have explain some features of benevolence (because benevolence carries the imputation of intention). Some things that require explanation are:
A. Who or what is the entity possessing this benevolence (evidence of existence and characteristics required)?
B. What did this entity do that convinces us of its benevolence (evidence of its intention)?
C. When did this entity conduct its actions (evidence of timing required)?
D. Where did this entity conduct its actions (evidence of place required)?
E. How did this entity accomplish its actions (evidence of mechanism required)?
F. Why did this entity do these things (no evidence required for this, anyone can come up with Because Reasons)?
5. Then we get: . "Why would an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent God not create the best or all possible worlds?". Very good question (it happens to be the question that atheists ask over and over again). What does Jerry have to contribute as an answer? Here is what we get: "So the worm eating out the boys eye is part of best. I am sure with a little thought we can think of much more gross or horrible examples. But they are all trivial compared to what is being offered, at least by the Christian God."
6. So let me get this straight. Your theology trumps the pain and suffering of that boy (who may never have heard of your God) because you claim your belief is correct (without any evidence-based answers to A-F questions above). Is that the best your religion can do?
7. And finally we get a conclusion: "So Attenborough should look to other possible gods to condemn but not the Christian God." But wait a sec, you haven't produced any evidence that this god of yours actually exists (A-F above). You may be right, but your conclusion ("So . . ?") does not rest on any demonstrably reliable presumption.

Date: 2014/02/17 06:00:41, Link
Author: timothya
Midwifetoad said said:
 
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Jerry is high on the list of suspects.

Yes, evidently (in the normally accepted sense of evidence). It seems (from observation) that the contributors to the UD blog have lost interest in debating the "scientific" claims for Intelligent Design, and are most interested in discussing the religious implications of scientific research results.

Evidence: that the only posts appearing at UD and generating comments aising above the bjornagain77 background noise are those addressing either a) direct criticisms of intelligent design, or b) posts that raise questions about Christian religious orthodoxy.

Date: 2014/02/17 06:18:13, Link
Author: timothya
Why did I say that Miwifetoad said said?

Because:

She sells sea shells by the sea shore
The shells she sells are surely seashells
So if she sells shells on the seashore,
I'm sure she sells seashore shells.

It is a maritime experience.

Date: 2014/02/17 06:54:52, Link
Author: timothya
Joe says:
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Talk about a strawman- I dont know any Creationist who thinks that God created all the organisms that we observe. Creationists accept that todays organisms evolved from the orginally created kind.That means darwinian evolution could very well be responsible for parasitic worms. It also means that God didnt have to be.Then there is Gods plan- which is something tat we dont know and most likely couldnt understand.You know what I say about that kid in Africa- what were his parents thinking?


Ummmm. Wait a sec.

Since the biblical version of "kind" is something you are proposing as a reliable category in biology, then I assume you have a set of measurable characteristics that we can use to identify them. What set of characteristics do you propose that we use?

Date: 2014/02/25 01:37:44, Link
Author: timothya
Is it just me or do you think it passing strange that the Carroll/Craig debate happened without acknowledgement, advertising or commentary by anyone at UD or EN&V? I may have missed their references, but what gives when one of the DI Fellows makes a big noise with a prominent cosmologist and then . . . nothing?

Date: 2014/03/03 00:26:48, Link
Author: timothya
From UD via a commenter called Chalciss:
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. . . These debates serve a purpose when they can get a believer to think and get the thinker to believe. . . .

Is the dichotomy in the second paragraph really what he/she meant?

Date: 2014/03/05 04:46:07, Link
Author: timothya
From KF at UD on events in the Ukraine:
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F/N: I trust the above, in light of the OP, also suffices to expose the destructive, deceitful, toxic nature of yet another increasingly common tactic: turnabout, blame the targetted victim accusations. Unfortunately, this seems to be a favourite stratagem of the Darwinist fever swamp denizens, and even those who are more genteel are prone to use it in subtler form, as Mr Nye plainly did. TSZ, I trust you are listening. KF

Apparently you lot down there in the fever swamp are the cause of a Russophile insurrection in the Crimea. How did you manage that? I wonder which rabbit hole the "Putin is a bulwark against atheist immorality" trope suddenly disappeared down.

Date: 2014/03/08 19:20:51, Link
Author: timothya

Kookaburra (Dacelo novaeguineae) suburban Sydney, Australia

Date: 2014/03/08 19:38:44, Link
Author: timothya

Silvereyes (Zosterops lateralis) Tumut, New South Wales

Date: 2014/03/08 20:16:13, Link
Author: timothya

New Holland Honeyeater (Phylidonyris novaehollandiae) Tumut, New South Wales

Date: 2014/03/08 20:54:02, Link
Author: timothya

Superb Fairy Wren (Malurus cyaneus) Tumut, New South Wales

Date: 2014/03/08 20:57:07, Link
Author: timothya

Swamp Harrier (Circus approximans) Tumut, New South Wales

Date: 2014/03/08 23:07:56, Link
Author: timothya

Juvenile New Holland Honeyeater (Phylidonyris novaehollandiae) Tumut, New South Wales

Date: 2014/03/09 03:15:10, Link
Author: timothya

See the forest in the trees - patterns from Sydney's botanic gardens

Date: 2014/03/18 04:30:36, Link
Author: timothya
TJguy at UD comments in their thread about the CMB polarisation result:
 
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It shows that even evolutionists have a bias and are prone to interpret the evidence in their favor. Translated that means evolutionists are not the objective scientists they are always portrayed to be.

Who knows why he thinks that the reported results bear on debates in biology.

But at least, we can be pleased that he recognises a truth about scientific practice: it is a battle of ideas decided by the evidence. Now, TJguy, apply that criterion to your religion.

Date: 2014/04/07 02:45:13, Link
Author: timothya

White-faced Heron (Egretta novaehollandiae, Dangar Island, New South Wales. This is reportedly the most common species of heron in Australia.

Date: 2014/04/09 05:47:48, Link
Author: timothya

Rainbow Lorikeet (Trichoglossus haematodus), Brooklyn, New South Wales

Date: 2014/04/15 15:41:02, Link
Author: timothya
Recent advances in creationist physiology:
"Seals dont have legs, they have flippers."

Date: 2014/04/20 16:40:59, Link
Author: timothya
From "fossil" at UD:
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. . . in a way I am glad that I am not a scientist. I dont have to worry about what concept is going to go south tomorrow and what I can really believe and trust in it is bad enough to live in the instability of politics and finance. For me when it comes to knowledge to an extent ignorance is bliss.

Kind of sums it up, really.

Date: 2014/04/23 01:12:55, Link
Author: timothya
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Too tired to be serious just now. News

How do we tell that News is tired? Because of the unserious character of the commentary, of course. Time for a Bex and a good lie down.

Date: 2014/04/23 01:22:53, Link
Author: timothya
This one from "jw777" has to be a Poe, surely:
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Strict Materialism as Pornography Addiction

As pointed out in the Dawkins post, Im currently working on a thesis that proposes atheism is one of a class of neurodegenerative pathologies, hall-marked by substantial downregulation and possible total ischemia of dopaminergic receptors and opiate receptors.

Initial mechanism proposals and meta-analyses are promising. Trying to find a proper control is the elusive variable. My instinct tells me this will sweep discussions like Coynes completely aside in the future.

I can think of at least one control.

Date: 2014/04/28 03:17:09, Link
Author: timothya
Sal Cordova embraces numerology as a scientific discipline:
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If the mathematical/musical patterns Perez has found in DNA are improbable relative to laws of physics and chemistry, then he may have found yet another design feature of DNA, and this feature is found by combining coding DNA with non-coding DNA and viewing it holistically.

Well if we can find Jebus in a pancake, we sure can find numerical structure in a repeating code. Kabbalah, anyone?

Date: 2014/04/28 05:14:20, Link
Author: timothya
This person, quark1, definitely has the irony thing nailed:
 
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1) Take subtraction diagonal like

A = (TCT)-(TTC) = 251604556 225669775 = 25934781
B = (TAT)-(TTA) = 234734484 260313647 = -25579163
C = (TGT)-(TTG) = 229405484 190719226 = 38686258
D = (TAC)-(TCA) = 169023944 202932695 = -33908751
E = (TGC)-(TCG) = 96112792 91988158 = 4124634
F = (TGA)-(TAG) = 202932695 149333215 = 53599480

2) Alright, thereafter do a summation like

A + B + C + D + E + F = 62857239

3) Divide with 10.000.000 and thereafter

(1/10.000.000)(A + B + C + D + E + F) = 6,2857239

This is approximately 2pi = 2*3,14159 = 6,283185

Do the same for the other three intervall:

The second one: I get -6pi
The third one: I get 3pi
The fourd one: I get pi

Date: 2014/05/02 05:50:35, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD has this to say:
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The main problem is that the people who use Wikipedia do not care whether it is false or true.

Since that is a claim of truth, a reasonable person might ask what evidence exists to support the claim.

Date: 2014/05/09 14:44:10, Link
Author: timothya
Jerry at UD explains what "explaining" means:
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Here is something someone explained to me several years ago. I didnt really understand it in terms of the debate at that time.

Date: 2014/05/11 01:39:13, Link
Author: timothya

Australian Flame Robin, Petroica phoenicea, Tumut, New South Wales. These little fellas come in a lovely range of related colours - flame, scarlet, rose and pink.

Date: 2014/05/11 02:20:03, Link
Author: timothya

Red-bellied Black Snake, Pseudechis porphyriacus, fairly common in wooded areas of eastern Australia. Its bite is rarely fatal, but will make you very sick.

Date: 2014/05/11 02:46:58, Link
Author: timothya

Nankeen Kestrel, Falco cenchroides, Tumut, New South Wales. This is one of the most common raptores in eastern Australia.

Date: 2014/05/11 04:13:32, Link
Author: timothya

Mallee Ringneck Parrot, Barnardius barnardi, Tumut, New South Wales.

Date: 2014/05/11 04:46:50, Link
Author: timothya

Female Splendid Wren, Malurus splendens, Tumut, New South Wales.

Date: 2014/05/11 05:35:53, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD says this about Anthechinus stuartii (without bothering to learn anything about this fascinating creature):
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Okay, but how does this elucidate the true meaning of life? Antechinus impacted the planet how, exactly? Apart from providing unexpectedamusement for cats?

Three sentences. Three stupids.

Date: 2014/05/12 00:56:46, Link
Author: timothya
Byers at UD on the intelligence gene:
 
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As said before intelligence can be measured. However its still just measuring a point in time of some people or person.
If conclusions are made then it must be a controlled experiment.
no bringing immigrant peoples from backward nations into our nations AND THEN SCORING IT.
The only reason this stuff is allowed is because they dont have to admit to a british or aryan or white superiority. Otherwise these books and writers would be burned at the stake.
Its proof its a liberal establishment and not common consent on these matters.

in reality there is no such thing as intelligence. just divisions of knowing.
The bible says Wisdom, first, and then understanding and then knowledge. its all outside us and its there for everybody HOWEVER generally the people you are born into and mingle with are the origin for what the kid picks up.
Thats why there are identity differences. Including motivation to explain female behindness etc.

You would have to think long and hard to deliberately cram so much toxic rubbish into so few words. There are at least three good reasons to keep your mouth closed in an Internet discussion:
1. If you don't know what you are talking about
2. If you don't want to prove that you don't know what you are talking about
3. If you don't want the flies to crap all over your tongue

Date: 2014/05/18 01:27:24, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD comments on "scientific arrogance":
 
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By definition, no one can know what arrogance looks like. It wouldnt be arrogance if we knew it.

Can anyone, less modest than I, explain what that statement means?

By the way, the site to which the UD article is linked seems to be a good read, which is an unusual experience in IDiotland.

Date: 2014/05/18 03:03:51, Link
Author: timothya

Willy Wagtail drinking (Rhipidura leucophrys). Wagtails are very common in Australian gardens. They belong to the enormous family of Australian flycatchers.

Date: 2014/05/18 03:24:04, Link
Author: timothya

Australian Wood Duck (Chenonetta jubata). Tumut, New South Wales. Very common species in inland Australia.

Date: 2014/05/27 04:33:14, Link
Author: timothya
I don't know who Piotr, wd400, goodusername or acartia_bogart are, but more power to their elbows. Until, as is a UD matter of course, the Barryhammer comes down (why do I hate that Beatles song so much?).

If they happen to be reading this, please join us here and at The Skeptical Zone (which, I hope, will recover from its current bout of petulance and navel-examination).

Date: 2014/05/29 05:37:38, Link
Author: timothya
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So there you have it: "I quoted what I wanted to quote." makes it OK.
And yes, I have had to selectively snip bits of the conversation, which sorta opens me up to a quote mining charge, so for full context see this UD link.

The absolutist's mantra. What I believe to be true is true because I believe it to be true. Why is it true? Because I believe it.

Date: 2014/06/06 04:27:04, Link
Author: timothya
Byers at UD:
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Feminism has always been a evil attack upon the rights of males. Its not been a attempt to allow humans to get anything despite identity.
women were meant to help their husbands goals on earth,. Therefore its not right that women try to achieve but as a social contract we can allow it.
There are no womens rights but only people rights and then citizen rights. The men never had to give women rights we didnt mean them to have. Its a fraud.

I am surprised that he permits women to be members of the species, literally or figuratively.

Date: 2014/06/07 05:00:21, Link
Author: timothya
Pav at UD thinks that 40-year-old opinions on HIV biology represent current science:
 
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In the case of HIV, Dr. Peter Duesberg, considered in the late 70?s and early 80?s to be the premier virologist in the US, if not the world, questioned the HIV causes AIDS consensus, which quickly arose among the experts. What happened? Was there a discussion of his views? No. He started being uninvited to conferences, had his papers not published, lost his graduate students, and finally his lab.

So, apparently, not only are lay people not in a position to question the experts, but even ONE expert is not in a position to question THE experts. Lets hear it for group-think.

What was Duesbergs concerns? HIV doesnt demonstrate the normal characteristics of what a virus is expected to demonstrate. How outlandish, wouldnt you say?

Is there any person now working in the field who subscribes to Duesberg's hypothesis?

Date: 2014/06/11 07:24:20, Link
Author: timothya
Denyse O'Leary explains her understanding of language:
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The current pretense is that science can teach people to write better.

"The literary scholars Mark Turner and Francis-Nol Thomas have identified the stance that our best essayists and writers implicitly adopt, and that is a combination of vision and conversation. When you write you should pretend that you, the writer, see something in the world thats interesting, that you are directing the attention of your reader to that thing in the world, and that you are doing so by means of conversation."

Rubbish. As a writing teacher of some years of experience, I would say that we cant teach people to be good writers, for the same reasons as we cant teach good character. We can be guardian angels and discourage harmful habits, of course, but the actual sources of good writing are not illuminated by the sorts of fatuous claims made by Darwinians. You cant write what you cant live.

Pardon me, but how do people learn to use a common language (well or poorly) if they can't be taught its rules? Perhaps Denyse should consider the possibility that a language is actually defined by its rules (rules that she says that she is unable to teach).

Or if the rules of "good writing" can't be codified (a strange notion to hold in the face of several centuries of dictionaries and style guides), perhaps her notion of "language" is deficient.

Date: 2014/06/15 01:10:25, Link
Author: timothya

Yellow-rumped Thornbill, Acanthiza chrysorrhoa, Tumut New South Wales

Date: 2014/06/15 01:12:53, Link
Author: timothya

Double-barred Finch, Taeniopygia bichenovii, Tumut New South Wales

Date: 2014/06/15 01:24:57, Link
Author: timothya

Not wildlife, but interesting. Taken via a Skywatcher 127mm Cassegrain telescope with a Canon 70D at 1/50sec.

Date: 2014/06/16 03:01:48, Link
Author: timothya
KF enlarges on his particular form of dualism:
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PS: For those pondering the malevolent supernatural, all I will say is that I have personally and in company of dozens, seen that in action in violation of known physics; and I mean basic reliable laws. Things I used to laugh at when as a kid I saw on cartoon Saturdays, I no longer find so funny . . . I begin to wonder about just what lies behind some of those cartoons. I cannot deny what I have indisputably seen under circumstances that make convergent mass hallucination from multiple perspectives by people of diverse backgrounds etc essentially a non-starter, and have had to deal with and process those facts. I think we had better begin to think about a world of oracles that can interface with MIMO cybernetic entities, sometimes in very strange ways. Whether or no this sits comfortably with a nice mid-C20 smugly “scientific” mindset.

I wonder what it could have been?

Date: 2014/06/21 03:54:16, Link
Author: timothya
Upon UD's methods for measuring gravity, Kairosfocus has this to say:
   
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News: Non-overlapping error bars point to systematic errors in measurement approaches. The torsion experiments and the cold atom experiments agree in the first three significant figures, 6.67 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2, not a high precision, but maybe we have to live with that until we figure out more clearly underlying issues with how we set out to measure. Reminds me of the old saying that structures fail by their weakest mechanism, usually the one no one had figured out — we need to ask ourselves hard as to whether we are overlooking something. It is likely that we need to remember that in was it the 1920′s, there were values for atomic etc weights that were thought to be known to certain error bars but later experiments showed errors beyond the error bars. So, we need to wait until we understand more closely what is biasing the experiments, whether the old style torsion balance ones (notoriously ticklish to work with as anyone who has used a ballistic galvanometer will recall) or the new ones (which sound even more ticklish and subject to thermodynamics noise effects hence the big chill involved). And, the root issue is a fight for more decimals in agreement. KF

Apparently, Montserrat is a hotbed of experimental physics.

Good to hear.

Date: 2014/07/10 04:20:58, Link
Author: timothya

Juvenile Grey Butcherbird (Cracticus torquatus), Dora Creek, NSW. Visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....ture=kp to listen to some exuburant butcherbird song.

Date: 2014/07/10 04:23:34, Link
Author: timothya

Australian Pelican (Pelecanus conspicillatus), Dora Creek, NSW

Date: 2014/07/10 04:27:10, Link
Author: timothya

Chestnut Teal (Anas castanea), Dora Creek, NSW

Date: 2014/07/17 06:57:31, Link
Author: timothya
DavidD:
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Graham2 – “I may find it convenient to eat babies, but this will kill off my genes.”

You could always consider practicing another evolutionary strategy for spreading one’s DNA, try rape. But make sure you perform the strategy well outside of your natural habitat like in a foreign country. If caught and arrested, in court you could always cite the scientific literature which actually extends all the way back to the 1990s. Claim you were a under privileged male of low social status and couldn’t help yourself because your selfish genes made you do it. Perhaps you could try this in a more progressive enlightened country like secularist Norway where a mass murder of 84 innocent people got only 21 years for something that really was beyond his control.

Yup. He is is shaping up in the tard stakes.

Date: 2014/09/24 00:50:05, Link
Author: timothya
It was with some personal interest that I read David Tyler’s paean to Professor John Rendle-Short over at UD.

Over a long and distinguished career in medicine, Rendle-Short had a large and positive impact in humanising the treatment of women and newborn infants in the Queensland hospital system, and also in the diagnosis and treatment of childhood diseases. Unfortunately, he was also prey to religious narrow-mindedness.

I spent my youth in Brisbane, Queensland, and well remember John Rendle-Short as a public figure.

The early 1980s were a (relatively) turbulent period in Queensland politics. The state government was led by Johannes Bjelke-Petersen, popularly known as “The Flying Peanut”, but in truth one of the most callous and corrupt players in Queensland’s sad political history. His government relied for its majority on a gerrymander that weighted a country vote at three times the value of a city vote.

Abetted by an outstandingly corrupt police force leadership, Bjelke-Petersen attempted to close down the Greenslopes Clinic – virtually the only place in Brisbane where a woman could receive a voluntary, legal abortion. It was a vicious and cynical manoeuvre to shore up his increasingly shaky conservative support base.

A vigorous counter-campaign organised by women’s organisations, left-wing groups and some church bodies led ultimately to extraordinarily large-scale street demonstrations against his proposed law (extraordinary in my experience, anyway). To the great satisfaction of the abortion rights movement and right-thinking people everywhere, Bjelke-Petersen was forced to abandon his attempt to mandate back-alley abortions and unwanted pregnancies.

Professor Rendle-Short played a fairly prominent role in supporting the state government’s actions, and repeatedly appeared in the media at the time arguing in favour of removing legal access by women in Queensland to abortion. So, it is interesting to discover that he had changed his tune in twenty years.

From “Dangerous Pregnancies: Mothers, Disabilities, and Abortion in Modern America”, Leslie J. Reagan, University of California Press, 20 Jun 2010:
                 
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John Rendle-Short of the University of Queensland, Australia, observed that the decision to end a pregnancy due to rubella ‘is a matter for the parents to decide in the light of their religious beliefs’. As reported in ‘Measles Threat to Unborn,’ Science News Letter 86 (September 26, 1964):194.

I wonder how many latter-day anti-abortion fundamentalists would subscribe publicly to Rendle-Short’s moderately humane view in 1964 that a pregnant woman, faced with the potential consequences of a rubella infection, should be able to decide to have an abortion?

. . . . . .

Queensland Arcana

Bjelke-Petersen did not invent the Queensland gerrymander - he inherited it from an equally corrupt preceding government of the opposite political stripe (well not so opposite actually).

For those with an interest in provincial Antipodian shenanigans of the time, google any or all of:

Terry Lewis (police officer)
Don "Shady" Lane
Frank Bischof
Russell Hinze
"The Hillbilly Dictator"
Rona Joyner
Bagman Jack Herbert
Fitzgerald Inquiry

Date: 2014/10/19 05:27:51, Link
Author: timothya
The first one is a representation of a binary digital sequence. The second is a representation of a binary digital sequence. How does his example take his argument forward?

Date: 2014/10/25 12:57:30, Link
Author: timothya
From Acronym Finder:
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What does FSCO/I stand for?
Your abbreviation search returned 0 meanings

Date: 2014/11/02 11:52:54, Link
Author: timothya
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Not to mention Geothermal energy development

Why bother? Just hook up the resident gasbag to the grid.

Date: 2014/11/23 12:21:17, Link
Author: timothya
Denyse O'Leary keeps quoting Laszlo Bencze (who appears to be a commercial photographer) and describes him as a "philosopher". She often provides quotes, apparently of his writing, but the links that she uses don't lead to the text. If you google any of the quotes, all you get is a link back to UD.

Is this some sort of elaborate hoax? If not, what is the point?

Date: 2014/11/27 04:19:48, Link
Author: timothya
At UD, this, from DavidD:
   
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Maybe they should give Watson another Nobel Prize for his coming out of the closet and having the courage to speak up and reveal the evolutionary truth of how Africans are inferior in intelligence to white Europeans? He did what every evolutionist believes at heart but do not have the guts to public post.

Wait a second.  Doesn't the fossil and molecular evidence say that we are all "Africans"?

What a piece of filth.

Date: 2014/11/29 23:11:52, Link
Author: timothya
From Barry Arrington's website:
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Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires.

Do you think he means that he has achieved the standard, or that he aspires to it but falls short?
In any case, my tiny patch of the world expects integrity "far beyond" anything he has demonstrated at UD.

Date: 2014/11/29 23:19:31, Link
Author: timothya
I might add that I would expect a lawyer to be called to a higher standard of grammar than that which he displayed, up with which we should not put.

Date: 2014/12/01 06:21:58, Link
Author: timothya
Barry Arrington's website statement:
   
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Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires.

admits of four possible states, by his own analysis (meaning what he says about the ethical basis of his legal practice):
1. Barry meets and exceeds the Christian standard of integrity, and also (presumably) exceeds the world-required standard of integrity
2. Barry meets but does not exceed the Christian standard of integrity, and also (presumably) exceeds the world-required standard of integrity
3. Barry fails to meet the Christian standard of integrity, but does (presumably) meet the world-required standard of integrity
4. Barry fails to meet the Christian standard of integrity, and also fails (presumably) to meet the world-required standard of integrity

Since we have no information about what is required of Barry in the way of integrity, we are unable to decide which category of claim he is making.

Except, of course, that we can use the evidence of UD to decide.

Note that there is no evidence that Christian standards of integrity are higher than secular standards.

Date: 2014/12/06 12:08:15, Link
Author: timothya
At UD, William J Murray says this:
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ID makes no supernatural claims. ID only proposes that artifice, or intelligent design, is a scientifically necessary causal agency in the explanation of some artifacts.

William Dembski says this:
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Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory.

Any further clarification required?

Date: 2014/12/07 02:24:02, Link
Author: timothya
The Kairosfocus had this to say at UD:
 
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KB: I suspect that some clarification on the meaning/message and truth of Scripture is needed. First, that scripture must be understood on grammar, language [esp. Heb. Aramaic and Koine Greek], genre and imagery [What does Jesus mean to say, I am the Door . . . sensus literalis does not commit us to thinking of Oak or Cedar etc, and when Scripture portrays how Paul and Silas were beaten and thrown in stocks at Philippi it does not commend kangaroo courts but just the opposite, etc . . . ], context, setting and occasion, authorial intent, etc and so taking the text at its proper meaning per what it actually says vs what many may read into it, becomes important. You are right to highlight the problem of strawman caricatures and a subtext of contempt. Which, is ever more luridly revealing of the thoughts and intents of the heart in a culture where the chattering classes so often preen themselves on tolerance and cultural sensitivity. It is time for a rethink. KF

What does this mean?

Date: 2014/12/09 23:13:20, Link
Author: timothya
From Axel, at UD:
 
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We don’t claim to fully understand the mind of God. Our faith, indeed, our world, is full of mystery. Your is full of absolute knowledge, underpinned by a truly pathetically absolute ignorance.

You are good for the menial works of science, but sterile when it comes to discovering new paradigms.

If mankind had had to rely on you, atheist scientists, we would still be waiting for you to discover quantum mechanics! You are a disgrace to the modern world.

I dips me lid. This is one of the finest examples I have seen of cramming into the shortest possible text a maximum of falsehood,  error, mischaracterisation, evasion, inept logic, bad faith, pompous windbaggery and intellectual corruption.

Date: 2014/12/09 23:30:24, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 09 2014,14:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 09 2014,07:13)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 08 2014,13:35)
Earlier today in the ""No Global Warming for 17 Years!" thread at joey's unintelligent blabbering blog, I asked joey:

"joey, is "temperature" information? If so, is temperature only information to humans?"

joey's response: "No, dickface, temperature is data."

I then asked him: "So, joey, temperature is not information and has no meaning to humans or anything else?"

joey didn't post my question so I asked him: "Why won't you post my other questions, joey?"

joey's then posted my other question which appears as though he posted it before I asked him why he hadn't posted it (by the time stamps on them).

joey then responded: "I usually don't post your shit-spewing rants because they are shit-spewing rants from an ignorant coward."

And:

(quoting me in italics): So, joey, temperature is not information and has no meaning to humans or anything else?

(joey): "So, dickface, you are a demented little cowardly shit-spewer. Please tell us how you jumped all the way to your ignorant question from what I posted. I dare you"

So I asked: "Why won't you just answer my questions, joey? What are you afraid of?"

joey's response: "And while you are here please link to or reference this alleged "theory of evolution" that you found last year (ie when you were ten)."

And:

(quoting me in italics): Why won't you just answer my questions, joey?

(joey): "As I have told you, all you have are ignorant spewings of a shit-eating coward. I don't respond to that. If you ever have something relevant and something that demonstrates just a little honesty and some knowledge, I will respond.

That said, you want to make this personal so just tell me where you live and we can get this over with."

My response: "joey, your sniveling cowardice is obvious (as usual) and that's why you won't answer my questions. You know that if you answer them you will have to be dishonest or you will show yourself to be a contradictory fool. Of course you've already shown that you're a liar and a fool MANY, MANY times. It's a shame that such a courageous war hero as you (ROFLMAO!) is terrified of my questions.

And regarding where I live and getting this "over with" (as you put it) I told you long ago that you could fly into Portland (Oregon) International Airport and I would meet you there. You ran away, as usual. My offer still stands."

joey didn't post my comment and there was no response from him, so I asked/said: "Are you back to blocking my comments, joey? You're afraid of me and my questions, aren't you?"

joey didn't post those questions and there is still no response from him, yet he has the gall to call me and other people cowards. Even if he eventually posts those comments/questions I'm sure that he won't actually answer my question: "So, joey, temperature is not information and has no meaning to humans or anything else?", and I'm sure that he won't fly to PDX and back up his implied threat to "get this over with". joey is a poster boy for ignorant cowards.

If you want me to fly to PDX then send me the money. Otherwise give up your real name address and I will drive there.

LOL, joey, you're so funny. Why the hell should I send you money? You're the one who said: "just tell me where you live and we can get this over with". I told you where I'd meet you (and unlike you I would actually show up) so pay for your own trip, whether you fly, drive, crawl, slither, or slide all the way here on your slime.

If you actually come to Portland (LMAO!) you can let me know here and we can arrange a day and time to meet.

May I suggest WIMPS or MACHOS at ten paces?

Date: 2014/12/10 05:07:53, Link
Author: timothya
I'm sure you will have seen this, but in advance of the holiday break, here is a reminder that music isn't something to just listen to, it is something to make:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....JR9oKVE
Handel wrote some of the best tunes. My best wishes to you and yours.

Date: 2014/12/13 11:49:09, Link
Author: timothya
Read it and weep: UD.

Date: 2014/12/20 20:23:48, Link
Author: timothya
From UD:
Quote
Take home point: The ID community is rapidly getting beyond the need to even care what such persons think.

True, but perhaps not in the sense that the writer intended.

Date: 2014/12/23 23:18:26, Link
Author: timothya
BA77 argues for the efficacy of prayer:
 
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The first question that needs to be asked in answering this question is, “Is reality ‘set up’ for prayer to possibly be effective?”. In other words, is reality structured in such a way that we may expect prayer might be effective? The answer to that question is yes. Reality, far from being materialistic in its basis as the atheist imagines it to be, is actually found to be information theoretic in its basis. And since prayer is basically just a ‘communication of information’, then that means effective prayer is indeed possible as far as the structure of reality itself is concerned.

Say what? Is communication with no feedback effective in "structuring reality"?
Where does this bafflepoop come from? The solipsism, it burns!

Date: 2014/12/25 12:10:17, Link
Author: timothya
From UD comes the official line on how to conduct yourself in a democracy. How foolish of me. I always thought you used argument to try to build a majority.

Date: 2015/01/10 01:26:39, Link
Author: timothya
Professor Lenski upon the nature of science: Eppur si muove
Perhaps someone with the interest and access might like to slip this into a relevant thread at UD.

Date: 2015/01/15 00:08:57, Link
Author: timothya
'Hales" is correct usage in that context, though probably colloquial. "To hale from" is synonymous with "to come from", at least in Australia. And News' work is still rubbish.

Date: 2015/02/06 19:37:07, Link
Author: timothya
From gpuccio,  explaining "intelligent selection" at UD:
Quote
IS is any situation in which the system actively measures some property of the mutated object and reacts to that measure in a specific way. In this case, only the measured property can trigger the active response of the environment which “selects” (this time in a completely correct sense) the result, and expands and supports it.

As a thermostat does?

Date: 2015/02/10 23:17:31, Link
Author: timothya
More physics illiteracy at UD:
Quote
Don’t materialists have issues with massless stuff?

Like photons, for instance?

Date: 2015/02/21 04:31:36, Link
Author: timothya
Diogenes lays waste to the UD Cosmologists..

And their answer to the problems of quantum mechanics is . . . wait for it . . . The Shroud of Turin!

Make of this what you will.

Date: 2015/03/10 04:23:24, Link
Author: timothya
Niwrad at UD begins a post with this:
 
Quote
The 2nd law of statistical thermodynamics states that in a closed system any natural transformation goes towards the more probable states.

The word "any" in the statement sounds wrong (". . . any natural transformation on average goes . . ." sounds right). Can a more physically educated person comment?

Date: 2015/03/23 04:33:31, Link
Author: timothya
Take a look at the comments attached to the scary crocodile post at UD.
All the creationist misconceptions, ex post facto argumentation and prior-assumption-of-things-requiring-evidence that anyone could wish for.

Date: 2015/04/14 02:32:18, Link
Author: timothya
In the RDFish, StephenB offers this:
 
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Sorry, REC, you have provided a contradictory standard:

We have two communities:

Community A accepts slavery (The United States in the early 20t Century)

Community B rejects slavery (The United States in the late 20th Century)

So, according to your definition, a good person behaves in a way that accepts slavery and also in a way that rejects slavery.

Presumably he means the 19th Century, but the Community A statement could not possibly be true unless he assumes:
1. that the slaves' opinion on the matter can be safely disregarded
2. there were no substantial abolitionist sentiment in either the North or the South
3. Northern political acquiescence in Southern slavery amounts to "acceptance"

Date: 2015/04/18 04:23:11, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD posted something entitled this:
   
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Build your own worm

I vaguely remember that this research program began about fifteen years ago.

The research team have been able to show that the cell division sequence required to "build a worm" can be traced to a tiny number of biochemical gradients encoded in a small number of genetic sequences.

Read the history of the C. elegans research program and you will see that it ranks in importance with the Lenski E. coli program.

"News" appears to have no clue as to what this research program entails, or why it was undertaken.

Date: 2015/04/25 02:35:10, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 25 2015,01:50)
Moar science with Densye: Geocentrism might be true after all!
I've watched the trailer of the film she is pushing - amazingly, the batshit crazy author has managed to get interviews with Lawrence Krauss and Michio Kaku.

As for kairosfocus' persecution complex, if there really are suspicious blokes skulking near his home they might be the mates of the ex-con murderers he is trying to re-integrate into society.

Or the regional vulcanologist. Or the auditor of the local administration. Or a real estate agent. Or a competing strategic thinker. Who can tell?

Date: 2015/04/25 06:13:00, Link
Author: timothya
From the Active Information thread at UD:
 
Quote
UP,

Perhaps, I should in addition put this Alinsky style (as his particular forms are most in evidence today), the population must become the manipulated, polarised passive enablers for the radical activists and to do so must be led to believe all/only angels are on one side and all/only devils are on the other.

The use of character assassination and slander or scapegoating targetting of institutions to that end is a notorious, studied tactic. So are mob rule tactics that exploit freedoms to push the envelope farther and farther by degrees until there is eventual toleration for the most ugly targetting of designated scapegoats. As is of course the associated setting up and smearing then setting alight of strawman caricatures of people, institutions and arguments that then cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere.

One thing I am therefore doing — given highly suspicious timing, focus and surfacing — is pointing out that the atmosphere has now been seriously poisoned, and those with responsibility and the prestige required to run front operations or serve as enabling face cards . . . I am being forced to revert to terminology from the past . . . have a certain responsibility to seriously clean house and put out the burning poison-laced strawmen.

Including, where they persist in endlessly repeating fallacious, tainted and dismissive talking points regardless of correction as though nothing is wrong.

(I must add that there is a direct involvement of such a talking point involving specifically EL as a face card on oh Aiden and their atheist’s anthem and associated vampire clergy supporting war mongering and genocide video etc are as pure as driven snow, in the attempt to smear me at the local newspaper’s web site; though now the worst smears put up there have been removed by Editors as they constitute blatant character assassination tort. Let’s just say that the notion that I would consort with criminals [in particular, murderers . . . ] rather than support rehabilitation of former criminals in the business place of remote relatives or friends [I freely "confess to the latter . . . ] is a particularly nasty bit of speaking with disregard to truth in hopes that what is said or suggested will be taken as truth to my severe disadvantage; including attempting to box bread out of the mouths of my family. And of course, that I am in fact linked by in-law relationships to such persons is local, not on the Internet information implying on the ground stalking and casing of the joint involving uninvolved relatives of not just close but remote degree.) The UD editors have the actual smears in hand which I believe is part of why they were so firm with enablers in another recent thread.)

I suggest you go here to see where this sort of ruthlessness can eventually get in the hands of activists wielding power if unchecked: http://kairosfocus.blogspot.co.....h-258.html/....58.....58.html (The expelled phenomenon is a milder more subtle, but quite vicious form of this.)

KF

I don't know any details, but it seems that this person is under extreme stress. Perhaps it might be a good idea to back off with hands in sight.

Date: 2015/05/02 04:19:42, Link
Author: timothya
May I suggest the start of a new thread entitled: "Shroud of Turin Watch" (alongside the "KF Lewontin Watch")?
Here is BA77 in full flight in the incomprehensible "near death experience" thread at UD.

Date: 2015/05/04 05:54:17, Link
Author: timothya
From Kairosfocus in his "On Active Information, search, Islands of Function and FSCO/I" thread:
 
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F/N: FSCO/I is BTW a genuine, legitimately accounted for case of the emergent behaviour of systems comprising interacting parts. But, of course, while it readily gets you to mechanical GIGO limited computation, it will not allow you to indulge the fantasy of poof, we get North to rational self-aware contemplation by insistently heading West to blindly mechanical computation. KF

Yep, yep . . . (backing off with hands in clear sight).

Date: 2015/05/07 02:49:17, Link
Author: timothya
What a truly appalling lack of human empathy is represented in that post. What next? Chemical castration in the service of "objective morals"?

Date: 2015/05/09 04:46:06, Link
Author: timothya
Read the exchange between Mung and Elizabeth Liddle in the thread about same-sex marriage.

Date: 2015/05/13 15:21:13, Link
Author: timothya
Shroud of Turin!

Date: 2015/05/20 22:25:08, Link
Author: timothya
Shroud of Turin!

Date: 2015/06/26 21:54:23, Link
Author: timothya
Via UD:
   
Quote
An essential, falsifiable prediction of Darwinian theory, therefore, is that functional information must, on average, increase over time.

Eh? Why is it an "essential" prediction from evolutionary theory that the amount of information in a genome must increase.  I'm pretty sure it will change in makeup over time via drift, but why must it increase? And does anyone know of evolutionary theorists who think that it does?

Even the "therefore", which points to a previous paragraph doesn't support the statement as far as I can see - except in the trivial sense that early life probably had simpler genomes than any found today. But why is it necessary within any lineage for genome information quantity to increase (or decrease for that matter)?

Date: 2015/06/28 05:56:26, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 28 2015,04:07)
 
Quote (timothya @ June 26 2015,21:54)
Via UD:
         
Quote
An essential, falsifiable prediction of Darwinian theory, therefore, is that functional information must, on average, increase over time.

Eh? Why is it an "essential" prediction from evolutionary theory that the amount of information in a genome must increase.  I'm pretty sure it will change in makeup over time via drift, but why must it increase? And does anyone know of evolutionary theorists who think that it does?

Even the "therefore", which points to a previous paragraph doesn't support the statement as far as I can see - except in the trivial sense that early life probably had simpler genomes than any found today. But why is it necessary within any lineage for genome information quantity to increase (or decrease for that matter)?

That need to be read in context with the previous quoted paragraph:
   
Quote
   In the neo-Darwinian scenario for the origin and diversity of life, the digital functional information for life would have had to begin at zero, increase over time to eventually encode the first simple life form, and continue to increase via natural processes to encode the digital information for the full diversity of life.

So one would have to infer that functional information must, on average, have increased over time, but it doesn't say a lot about how the information is changing now.

It's difficult to see how one could falsify that 'prediction of Darwinian theory', without access to either ancient genomes or a functional definition of functional information. OTOH the weaker version of the 'prediction' is that there was a period of time when biological organisms became more complex (on average). I think the fossil record is pretty clear on that score.

The last sentence in my post might have been more coherently stated as:
"But why is it necessary that genome information quantity within any currently living lineage increase (or decrease for that matter)?

Date: 2015/07/21 20:26:12, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (REC @ July 21 2015,19:41)
BA77 posted a link that reveals ID's peer group:

http://www.metaxastalk.com/podcast....21-2015

Tuesday, July 21, 2015
Hour 1: Intelligent design advocate, author and scientist Stephen Meyer joins the show.

Hour 2: Bigfoot expert Christopher Noël continues our first Bigfoot Week and is joined by fellow Sasquatch enthusiast Michael Medved.

And here was I thinking it was read as "metaxa stalk dot com".

I was all ready for another fever swamp ad hoc red herring cyber bully explanation for the continued failure of IDists to gain their richly deserved places in the laboratories of the elite.

Date: 2015/12/07 05:17:33, Link
Author: timothya
From UD, Kairosfocus had this to say:
     
Quote
CY, that was Richard Lionheart’s conclusion too. The best place to defend Australia is New Guinea, and the place to settle the war is Japan, getting there by converging stages. KF

Apparently it is of no interest to KF how many Papua New Guineans died in the course of WW2.

As far as I can find, nobody knows. To repeat: nobody knows how many native Papua New Guineans died in the course of the Australian/American campaign to drive the Japanese armed forces out of PNG. Nobody knows because they weren't  counted among the casualties if they weren't serving soldiers.

But that fact is irrelevant to his narrative. What an appalling person.

A pity, because it matters.

Date: 2016/01/03 01:29:53, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 02 2016,12:17)
In case anyone is interested, michael egnor is gushing tard at Recursivity.

That "Yarwain" entity sounds a lot like "Gregory".

Date: 2016/01/28 23:37:34, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 28 2016,23:16)
Comment 81

I am in love with Ginger Grant.  I want to marry her and honeymoon on Montserrat.

If so, read this: Ash to Cash

Date: 2016/01/28 23:41:38, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 28 2016,22:49)
Gordon Mullings just got spanked.

 
Quote
KF, don’t pretend to lecture me about math. I have been doing it for a living longer than you have been alive. And I learned many years ago how to detect bullshit dressed up as lace by people who really don’t know their head from their ass (figuratively speaking).

Both you and DS are spewing nonsense that you both think is profound. Bullshit is still bullshit no matter how much perfume you spray on it.

I apologize for being so blunt but I think it is warranted given the comments posted here.




Comment 81

And was promptly consigned to the outer darkness . . .

Date: 2016/01/31 04:17:12, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 31 2016,03:06)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 30 2016,09:35)
 
Quote
61
timothyaJanuary 30, 2016 at 2:50 am
From the OP, Barry Arrington says:

“And I, when I am not doing science, will continue to argue that God is the best candidate for the provenance of the teleology.”

Just so I am clear, what science is it that you are doing?


linky

E-fucking-gad, so it's arrington who claims to be doing science?!?!

You're right, it is worse than I thought. Even when considering the vast amount of delusional bullshit that I've seen arrington spew, I doubt that I ever would have thought that he is the one who made that claim.

No response so far. Perhaps he is transmuting base metals into gold





Date: 2016/04/07 05:30:46, Link
Author: timothya
Moral relativism from a religious absolutist at UD:
Quote
AndreApril 7, 2016 at 3:20 am
Those that call others bigots are the real bigots…. Those that call others bigoted morons are the real bigoted morons…..

Date: 2016/04/11 14:50:46, Link
Author: timothya
PaV:
Quote
It all makes perfect sense.

Date: 2016/04/15 13:49:51, Link
Author: timothya
Barley humorous if not spelt correctly.

Date: 2016/05/09 23:59:41, Link
Author: timothya
Would someone remind Kairosfocus that the man's name was Heinrich Heine. He repeatedly spells it as Heinie, which I thought was an anti-semitic slur.

Cf comments 9, 15, 127

Date: 2016/05/11 02:12:52, Link
Author: timothya
There can't be two people in the Carribean who write like this: Montserrat Reporter, 29 April 2016

Date: 2016/05/13 01:03:45, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 12 2016,18:22)
Quote (stevestory @ May 12 2016,17:18)
It's Platonic. And not in the way Plato's hobbies make Kairosfocus's upper lip sweat, either.  :p

I noticed that Ziggy's comment on the KF article on the Monserrat Reporter was deleted. A new broom sweeps clean.

Got a saved version?

Date: 2016/06/30 15:52:40, Link
Author: timothya
Can anyone explain to me what this comment from O'Leary means in ordinary English? . . .
Quote
Some of us would be happy to see an honest public exposition of the relationship between Darwinism and racism.

Darwinists need racism, as a supposed mechanism of their theory. No one else needs it, and it is total crap for human societies.

goodusername at 1, you can only front this bluff because of an unusual reversed polarity in political correctness.

Darwin and his followers are protected despite scandalously obvious evidence of racism being essential to their theory. Because Darwinism is the creation story of naturalism.

From here.

Date: 2016/07/02 17:50:01, Link
Author: timothya
News at UD:
Quote
This is not a politics site

No further commentary required . . .

Date: 2016/07/02 17:55:34, Link
Author: timothya
. . . and News at UD again:
Quote
but I would respectfully draw attention to the fact that what defeated Germany was the *English-speaking peoples*. What drew together England, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and many African and Caribbean countries against Germany? (= the ability to understand a common language.)

The struggle for independence FROM the English-speaking English on the Indian subcontinent was successfully waged by a population speaking in excess of 100 non-English languages.

What an ahistorical maroon that person is.

Date: 2016/08/03 06:02:18, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 03 2016,02:24)
I wonder if Sewell is delusioned enough to directly reply to BA77 (crazy linkfest omitted):
   
Quote
Dr Sewell, since you have done work in the area of entropy,,,
[...]
Dr Sewell, since you have done work in the area entropy, it may interest you to know that ‘overcoming entropy’ figured centrally in the resurrection of Christ from death.
[...]
First off, despite the claim from atheists that entropy does not prevent life from spontaneously appearing on earth, the fact of the matter is that the primary reason our material bodies grow old and die is, barring an untimely death, because of entropy:
[...]
This following video brings the point personally home to us about the effects of entropy on our material bodies:
[...]
And the maximum source of entropy in the universe is found to be where gravity is greatest, i.e. black holes,,
[...]
Thus, if Jesus Christ were to have truly overcome death in His resurrection then this ‘entropic concern’ associated with gravity and death must have been dealt with.
[...]
And amazingly, there is little known anomaly on the Shroud of Turin that strongly suggests that this is exactly what happened. Namely, the image on the Shroud of Turin gives indication of ‘defying gravity’:
[...]
Supplemental note on the Shroud:
[...]
Of related note, contrary to the materialistic assumptions of Darwinists, life is not dominated by ‘thermodynamic jostling’ but instead seems to behave in its order and its structure just like inanimate matter cooled down to near absolute zero. Where quantum effects play a very important role.


I doubt that he will if he seriously believes that a decomposing body is equivalent to the transformation from a chrysalis to an adult insect.

Entropically speaking.

Date: 2016/09/12 05:48:11, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (sparc @ Sep. 11 2016,22:58)
Life as the managing editor of Bio-Complexity sucks when after having to have to write the journal's sole 2016 article yourself you realize that it's hardly sufficient for more than a single page and that blowing up the figures results in less than 3.5 pages from which 0.5 are used for the title, authors names and affiliation.

Since when does a user guide for a piece of software qualify as a scientific paper?

Date: 2016/10/11 14:41:12, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 11 2016,14:04)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 11 2016,12:17)
   
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 11 2016,11:44)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 11 2016,11:13)
Trailer for new film on biochemist Michael Behe: Revolutionary

lol

Or in jurisdictions where the original title is deemed to be promoting jihad, "The Spin Doctor".

He's Shane Warne?

Only if he's at silly mid off.

Nowadays he is Australia's finest advertisement for hair implants.

Date: 2016/10/20 00:24:41, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 19 2016,22:51)
Quote
Humans not special because some monkeys can flake tools?
durr

O'Leary manages to miss the point of the paper. It has nothing to do with the "specialness" of humans. It is pointing out that a particular kind of flake fracture, previously thought to be intentionally produced by early hominins, is produced accidentally by the monkeys, and should not be used as a behavioral diagnostic for the human lineage.

In any case, her use of "not special" in the UD post title is mendacious when you notice that the article says "not unique" - an entirely reasonable conclusion from the evidence.

Date: 2016/10/21 06:04:53, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 21 2016,04:17)
I predict    
Quote
"but they are still frogs".
Still, I would appreciate if someone would ask for calculations of the FIASC/O values of the two ancestral genomes, as well as the tetraploid X. laevis and the diploid X. tropicalis genomes

You already know the answer. It is oil-soaked, red-herringed and leading off to a pitchfork and torch parade over a cliff somewhere.
Meanwhile, on a blasted Caribbean rock, a prophet shakes his hoary locks and howls at the moon.

Date: 2016/10/26 05:13:51, Link
Author: timothya
Kairosfocus quotes Corinthians 1:18 in the UD thread about the Columbine movie:
"“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”
Standard argument in favour of anti-intellectualism in this day and age. I hope this sort of rubbish doesn't fly in the Carribean.

Date: 2016/10/28 13:11:20, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 28 2016,11:13)
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 28 2016,04:54)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Oct. 27 2016,23:03)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 27 2016,21:25)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 27 2016,21:13)
When somebody finally invents a fusion rocket (or whatever) that can accelerate at 1g straight for several days*, so that somebody can reach Mars in under 3 days with good timing (or a week or so with bad timing), would these people believe it then?

*(Accelerate 1st half of trip, decelerate 2nd half)

well, remember this part:

     
Quote
I don’t doubt we shoot rockets upwards. I don’t doubt people are employed to monitor the rover who really think it is on Mars, I don’t doubt they made the thing. I doubt very much that it is Mars though.


he thinks that all the scientists and engineers at NASA are all hoodwinked. Somebody's tricken em. Do you know how dumb +/ clueless you have to be to think that scenario doesn't have any obvious problems?

So who knows what he's capable of believing, and for how long.

With a name of "DillyGill" I gotta believe it's one of us church burnin' ebola boys taking the piss with the UDiots. All with a nod to the late great Frilly Gilly.   :)

you beat me to it

Hadn't thought of that.

Moar!  Take it away, timothya:
 
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You are absolutely correct, DillyGill. I took a close look that the pictures from the Mars Rover and found that ***they show exactly the same rocks as appear in the background of the Moon landing pictures***. Proof positive for anyone with eyes to see.

If he isn't a sock, this is a rare (ivory-billed woodpecker rare) sighting of someone at UD actually doing research.  Barking-mad research, but it's a start.

I have always thought of irony as the finest type of humour.

Date: 2016/10/30 22:36:03, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 30 2016,13:28)
News at her best:  Using a picture on the generation of Knockout mice to ilustrate an article about pairs of inactivated genes in yeast. As if 550,000 knockout pairs in mice were feasible in Canada alone while as of today the rest of the world just managed to produce 12,123 genes with mutated alleles in mice (source MGI).

Not sure I've got the maths right from the Quanta article.

The author says that the team were testing pairwise knockouts among 4800 inessential genes and generated 550,000 deleterious tests among 23 million unique pairs of genes (I assume they performed 23 million unique pairwise tests, which is pretty impressive).

On the face of it this suggests that in any 100 randomly selected pairs of inessential genes, knockout is likely to be deleterious in roughly two cases. Seems pretty low to me - though if the genes are "inessential", then a low number is presumably to be expected.

Also, 23 million variants is surely a tiny fraction of the total possible number of gene pairings among 4800 loci. Isn't that 2 to the power of 4800? Which is a number too big for my calculator to handle.

The article is extremely interesting in all respects. O'Leary's specious misrepresentation of the science is not.

Date: 2016/10/31 01:00:26, Link
Author: timothya
I'm an idiot. of course it isn't 2^4800, it is 4800P2, which is, guess what, 23 million. So evidently the team did test all possible pairwise permutations. Very impressive work and clearly an important body of knowledge.

Date: 2016/12/21 19:06:24, Link
Author: timothya
Just for giggles, read Barry Arrington's post here, then click through to the Slate article he references and read the headline.

Laugh? I almost wet myself. Wouldn't surprise me if BA pulled his own post.

Date: 2016/12/28 11:37:04, Link
Author: timothya
No new posts since 23 December . . .

Date: 2016/12/28 11:38:53, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (timothya @ Dec. 28 2016,11:37)
No new posts since 23 December . . .

Oops, didn't pay close enough attention.

Date: 2017/01/03 13:04:29, Link
Author: timothya
From Silver Asiatic in yet more entropic drivel at UD:

"… visible light is incredibly fine-tuned for life to exist on earth."

Except for all the life without eyes.

Date: 2017/01/03 14:21:52, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 03 2017,14:10)
Er, wasn't the light already present when eyes evolved to use it?

Talk about hitting a target.





Date: 2017/01/03 15:30:36, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Woodbine @ Jan. 03 2017,14:55)
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Thus, contrary to the claims of Darwinists that entropy presents no obstacle for Darwinian evolution, the fact of the matter is that not only is entropy not compatible with life, but entropy is found to be the primary source for death and destruction in this universe. In fact, Jesus Christ, in his defiance of gravity at his resurrection from the dead, apparently had to deal directly with the deadly force of entropy in his resurrection from the dead.


Jesus Krist.

So entropy is the devil? Or is it the converse?

In any case, Bad Entropy, Bad! Naughty Evil Entropy! Go straight to bed! No nice photosynthetic cookies for you tonight.

Date: 2017/01/06 01:50:31, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2017,00:25)
Q' makes sense. dQ makes sense. What the fuck is d'Q?

It is what you stand in when you want to buy d'Ticquet to d'Ballgame avec d'Chien Chaud avec d'Pommes Frites.

Date: 2017/01/06 16:20:48, Link
Author: timothya
I don't normally read BA77's contributions at UD, but this one caught my eye. Here is what BA said, quoting a paper in phys.org:
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Floating proteins appear to find their targets quickly as well. “This was a surprise,” he said. “It’s counterintuitive, because one would think collisions between a protein and other molecules on DNA would slow it down. But the system is so dynamic (and so well designed?), it doesn’t appear to be an issue.”

Here is what the original paper said:
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Floating proteins appear to find their targets quickly as well. "This was a surprise," he said. "It's counterintuitive, because one would think collisions between a protein and other molecules on DNA would slow it down. But the system is so dynamic, it doesn't appear to be an issue.

Where I come from, that is called dishonest.

Date: 2017/01/07 02:38:58, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 07 2017,01:24)
i wonder what those numbers look like if you subtract Dionosio  :p

Subtracting zero from any number leaves you with the original number. Of course, that is a comment on syntactics rather than one on semantics.

I acknowledge your point that his endless additions to that UD thread appear to be intended to inflate the overall traffic through that execrable site.

Date: 2017/01/08 15:11:38, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 08 2017,13:27)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 08 2017,13:25)
Did anybody notice Mung tweaking Barry's nose in that thread, which starts with a cartoon disparaging global warming?

   
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1 Mung January 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Barry!

Reminds me of all those “Jesus is coming soon” books I read growing up.

And here I thought he was a complete idiot.  

Should've said INcomplete IDiot.

And, the best part, it has completely derailed that thread.

I remember reading that comment but can't find it now. Has the thread been disappeared?

Date: 2017/01/10 22:14:37, Link
Author: timothya
BA77:
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When I was looking at water specifically years ago, I was quite amazed by the many brilliant design features that water revealed.

The mind boggles.

Date: 2017/01/25 05:02:18, Link
Author: timothya
I seriously think this thread should be closed before somebody gets hurt.

Date: 2017/01/30 17:51:11, Link
Author: timothya
Seriously bizarre rant from KF about street marches.

I wonder if he includes the anti-abortion marches in this weird melange of unconnected material. I'm still unsure whether he distinguishes "agitprop" from straightforward "get you ideas across effectively".

Date: 2017/01/30 19:58:44, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 30 2017,18:22)
Quote (timothya @ Jan. 30 2017,17:51)
Seriously bizarre rant from KF about street marches.

I wonder if he includes the anti-abortion marches in this weird melange of unconnected material. I'm still unsure whether he distinguishes "agitprop" from straightforward "get you ideas across effectively".

I notice the first seven responses were also from KF.

The ultimate echo chamber.

Date: 2017/02/28 04:18:58, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 28 2017,03:28)
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 28 2017,17:07)
ID is down to the mentally unwell.

Yes, check out kf's response* to Pindi. It begins...
   
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Pindi,

start with about 500 for pedo-linked offences in California, multiply by related roll-ups in Canada, Netherlands, Norway etc. For some reason corrupt power elites have long been associated with that especially destructive perversion, back to catamites for Caesars and things so entrenched that in pagan mythology Zeus had a catamite; cf. Rom 1 and read between the lines informed by Lives of the Caesars. Notice the names of the Galilean moons of Jupiter.

...and descends from there. Fuck knows what it all means.

UD linkie. *Ha ha again - I was right!

He means Pizzagate.

Date: 2017/03/01 17:20:48, Link
Author: timothya
That thread has it all: conspiracy theories, nefarious elites, pedophile rings, gun fondling, Jupiter's moons, the secret history of Jamaica, Freemasonry. Just superb.

Date: 2017/03/02 00:51:28, Link
Author: timothya
Plus Islam-bashing, Breitbart (definitely not an agit-prop sewer), WW2 aircraft specifications, secret cash for Iran (wasn't  the USA legally obliged to return the money it sequestered in 1979?), Trump's Almighty, and just for fun, a personal car crash morality fable. Brilliant, fantastic.

Date: 2017/03/02 03:49:10, Link
Author: timothya
I'm prepared to bet Mung money that this comment at UD will get dismembered or disappeariated. But just in case:

UD, March 2, 2017 at 3:41 am:

"Of course a factual statement by the law enforcement agency carrying out the arrests in California is irrelevant to your narrative. I understand that.

Facts don’t matter when we are invited to buy into conspiracy theories, nefarious elites, paedophile pizza shop rings, gun fondling, the homoerotic naming of Jupiter’s moons, the secret history of Jamaica, Freemasonry, Islam-bashing, Breitbart (definitely not an agit-prop sewer), WW2 aircraft specifications, secret cash for Iran (wasn’t the USA legally obliged to return the money it sequestered in 1979?), Trump’s Almighty, and just for fun, a personal car crash morality fable."

One does what one can.

Date: 2017/03/03 18:37:31, Link
Author: timothya
Interesting article about the novel minerals:

http://www.abc.net.au/news....8319026

I wonder if KF would care to test FIASCO on a sample of chalconatronite. On the face of it, this appears to be a case of undirected, chemical processes generating additional complexity in the world. It is functional, specified, certainly more complex than the substrate material, and could if necessary be represented in digital form.

Date: 2017/03/06 23:42:10, Link
Author: timothya
Read this trail of tripe and tell me what you think this pair (KF and WJM) think they are up to:

Agit-prop theatre weirdness

No conspiracy theory is too bizarre to tout. At one point KF appears to approvingly quote someone's instructions on how to carry out a police massacre. WTF?

Date: 2017/03/07 03:57:34, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Woodbine @ Mar. 06 2017,22:07)
Mapoo is creating a golem....

http://rebelscience.blogspot.co.uk/2017.......ch.html

 
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My ultimate goal (or dream) is to build a truly intelligent bipedal robot that can do all your chores around the house such as cleaning, preparing food, babysitting the kids, doing the laundry, gardening, etc. A tall order, I know.


Is it too pointed to suggest that the loss of his wife left a somewhat menial hole in his life?

What? Do you actually know that Gordon's wife died?

Date: 2017/03/07 05:15:34, Link
Author: timothya
Oops, you meant that Louis lost his wife?

Date: 2017/03/08 13:34:52, Link
Author: timothya
This may amuse you. The advertisement engine that UD uses often puts an intersecting triangle puzzle on the agit-prop post page. In fact, it is there as I read it now.

Date: 2017/03/09 23:50:30, Link
Author: timothya
Link refuses access - closed group by the look of it.

Date: 2017/03/18 04:54:30, Link
Author: timothya
Denyse's commentary is normally orthogonal to the evidence. Or is the adverb redundant?

Date: 2017/03/19 02:19:51, Link
Author: timothya
Read this piece of tripe from KF.
Am I right in thinking that he would prefer a properly religious tyrant to a democratically elected but secularly-minded town council?

Date: 2017/03/20 04:01:57, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

   
Quote
One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

Date: 2017/03/20 04:53:46, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 20 2017,04:33)
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,12:01)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

       
Quote
One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

I suspect that a clear majority of the total of 3866 registered voters on Monserrat who have had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to Mr Gordon Mullings would concur. Of those 3866 voters 2750 'exercised their mandate' in the last election. If Gordon had the slightest charm or ability, he could speak to everyone of those voters personally in a matter of weeks to get his Theocratic platform elected. If I knew he was at my front door I'd let the dogs out.

In my part of the world, dogs don't get to vote.

Which situation, Paddy (the Magnificent Hound) regards as evidence of the shortcomings of the human kind.

Paddy waves a condescending paw.

Date: 2017/03/20 05:16:02, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,04:53)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 20 2017,04:33)
 
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,12:01)
   
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

         
Quote
One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

I suspect that a clear majority of the total of 3866 registered voters on Monserrat who have had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to Mr Gordon Mullings would concur. Of those 3866 voters 2750 'exercised their mandate' in the last election. If Gordon had the slightest charm or ability, he could speak to everyone of those voters personally in a matter of weeks to get his Theocratic platform elected. If I knew he was at my front door I'd let the dogs out.

In my part of the world, dogs don't get to vote.

Which situation, Paddy (the Magnificent Hound) regards as evidence of the shortcomings of the human kind.

Paddy waves a condescending paw.

And here is a picture of the Magnificent Hound enjoying his first encounter with snow (which was a hoot for all concerned):

https://plus.google.com/photos....eca8f4e

Date: 2017/03/20 05:51:21, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Pilchard @ Mar. 20 2017,05:33)
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,11:16)
https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

He is a cross between a Staffy terrier and a wolfhound (who knows how that happened: Staffies are very short and wolfhounds are very tall)

He is sitting beside me now, because he is a Good Dog. For some reason, he thinks I am the best thing since sliced bread. Well, I think he is, particularly when we go for a swim in the river.

Date: 2017/03/21 02:52:42, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 20 2017,13:31)
Billy Murray's recommended punishment for doctors and women participating in an abortion:
 
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In that environment, I would set penalties for pre-birth infanticide at a term of 5 years probation for the doctor and loss of medical license, repeat offenses ending up in prison time, and a loss of reproductive rights for the mother.

Maybe forced sterilization? Where have I heard that approach before?

So, let me understand WJM's thinking.

First he wants the law to force unwilling pregnant women to have babies.

Then later, he wants the law to force non-pregnant women who want to have babies not to have babies.

Sorry for the tortuous prose, but as far as I can understand what he says, it means that he wants a government to regulate women's biology.

Fact 1: WJM is a man and can't have babies. That might be a clue to the construction of what might loosely be called his thought.

As my women comrades used to say: "Get your laws off my body".

Date: 2017/03/23 12:26:15, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 23 2017,04:15)
Quote (Pilchard @ Mar. 20 2017,05:33)
 
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,11:16)
https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

I'm getting a 404 error.

OMG, YOUR DOG HAS RUN AWAY!

He deleted the image himself, declining to participate in gratuitous Internet publicity. He is a Modest Dog, and wishes to maintain his usual modicum of polite reserve. He does, however, thank you for your concern.

Date: 2017/03/23 15:04:50, Link
Author: timothya
Armand Jacks at UD:
   
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A lot of work obviously went into this. Have you though about drafting this as a research paper and submitting it to a peer reviewed paper?

Presumably eating brains is a standard part of zombie peer review.



Date: 2017/05/29 15:25:51, Link
Author: timothya
The UD site has had an expired security certificate for over a week. Perhaps that is Barry's exit strategy.

Date: 2017/08/03 02:00:32, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 02 2017,20:41)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 02 2017,03:00)
That most papers have an author on the AE board just suggests that this is a small field.

Well, that should make it easy for some of them to be out standing in their field.

I saw what you did there.

Date: 2017/08/10 16:17:08, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 10 2017,02:51)
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 09 2017,10:21)
I went to TSZ just to see if he'd been kicked out of UD and retreated to that place. No KF, but check out this complete nonsense:

 
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phoodoo August 9, 2017 at 1:42 pm

...

I know some statisticians will claim they can solve this conundrum, and I have heard their explanation. And I win in roulette 99% of the time (that is no exaggeration). Go figure.
Cuckoo for cocoa-puffs

Perhaps he means that in 99% of the times he goes to a casino, he wins at least once.

He goes to a casino 100 times but only bets once, and wins.

Date: 2017/08/22 02:20:06, Link
Author: timothya
Looks like Louis/Mapou is back as Ichisan (good nickname):

Derp

Date: 2017/10/21 01:59:55, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (Lethean @ Oct. 20 2017,17:32)
Quote (Antoniobrore @ Oct. 20 2017,01:26)
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<a href="http://<snip>/catalog/paronit/">паронит сертификат </a>
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guest on paronite
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Well, at least it's not viagra sales or the odd question about fertility this time around. Some sort of odd phishing attempt or test of automating account creation or..?


   
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Paronite:

a gasketing material that is produced by compressing a blend of asbestos, natural rubber, and powdered constituents. Paronite is supplied in sheet form and is used for sealing joints that operate in the following mediums: water and steam under a pressure of 5 meganewtons per square meter (MN/ m2), or 50 kilograms-force per square centimeter, and at a temperature of 450°C; petroleum and petroleum products at 7 MN/ m2 and 200°C and at 4 MN/m2 and 400°C; and such substances as liquid and gaseous oxygen and ethyl alcohol.

In order to increase its mechanical strength, paronite is sometimes reinforced with wire mesh, in which case it is called ferronite.


Ethyl alcohol? So we can drink this stuff safely?

Date: 2017/11/17 21:22:01, Link
Author: timothya
Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 17 2017,17:50)
Is this the birth of a new Joe-ism, or has he shat this one out before?
 
Quote
196 ET November 17, 2017 at 1:18 pm
 
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Mathematics does not say that the letters on a page are random.

Yes, it does.

linky

And further from Joe:

"They are only partially predictable because we understand the language."

Say what? I can't read Russian, but I'm willing to bet that a standard ngram analysis of a Russian text would show a non-random distribution in the positioning of letters within words wrt to each other.

Computer-based counterintelligence does this as a matter of course, and I doubt that even Joe would claim that a computer "understands" Russian.

 

 

 

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