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Date: 2007/05/31 22:35:22, Link 67.39.20.226

Author: khan

BA in Math One year of graduate work in Math, no degree.

Date: 2007/06/01 16:40:07, Link 69.221.212.53

Author: khan

Quote (Richardthughes @ May 31 2007,23:21) Quote (khan @ May 31 2007,22:35) BA in Math One year of graduate work in Math, no degree. Welcome, kahn. Your homepage? No.

Date: 2007/06/05 20:20:08, Link 69.216.53.253

Author: khan

I'm new here and I have to ask: what is the origin of the "pirahna" references?

Date: 2007/06/05 22:21:51, Link 69.216.53.253

Author: khan

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ June 05 2007,20:54) Quote (khan @ June 05 2007,20:20) I'm new here and I have to ask: what is the origin of the "pirahna" references? The person whose blog is the subject of this thread said in a post somewhere,   Quote It doesn't matter what I say, as I am a (gasp) Creationist, and as such am declared a pirahna to all scientific thought. Of course she meant "pariah," but not only did she use the wrong word, she spelled it incorrectly. Some serious tard there.

Date: 2007/06/10 19:32:43, Link 69.214.48.72

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 10 2007,19:29) Quote (someotherguy @ June 10 2007,19:21)   Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 10 2007,18:45) Uncommonly Denyse has made it her business to simultaneously display and celebrate ignorance, to a degree that must be read to be believed even for those familiar with her usual drivel. This post is beyond ridicule, save self-ridicule. Go here, where UD has effectively become an extension of the Uncommonly Dense thread of AtBC, and rendered it unnecessary. "Wow" is about the the only word that comes to mind. You know it's bad when someone makes Dave Scot look like an intellectual... They seem to be in some sort of competition for the most breathtaking inanity.

Date: 2007/06/12 08:49:11, Link 69.221.223.104

Author: khan

Quote just be aware that the statistics don't support the level of hysteria associated with sharks, as an order of magnitude more people are killed each year by bees, for example. I recall reading something several years ago.  Some folks were all upset because two people had been killed by sharks off Hawaii.  It was then noted that more than 40 people had drowned in the same time frame and location.  If you want to save lives, close the beaches.

Date: 2007/06/14 13:01:24, Link 69.213.249.77

Author: khan

Quote The critters these guys commonly feed on (elephant seals), Interesting thought occurred to me: Sharks swimming around essentially unchanged for many millions of years while their food supply slowly evolves.

Date: 2007/06/16 09:14:17, Link 69.213.250.21

Author: khan

Quote (Ichthyic @ June 15 2007,13:25) 9?! *sigh* Home-schooled.

Date: 2007/06/17 20:48:01, Link 69.218.132.150

Author: khan

Is there a time line for that chart?

Date: 2007/06/18 10:58:26, Link 69.213.252.74

Author: khan

Quote (Kristine @ June 18 2007,09:57) Quote (Dr.GH @ June 18 2007,00:53) Quote (Kristine @ June 17 2007,20:16)     Quote (Ichthyic @ June 17 2007,18:36)   Quote This is a Day of Love! more like the start of the "year of living dangerously". I just saw a ballet version of Barbarella and it inspired me. I'm going to write a musical starring wMAD and the whole crazy gang, plus us and me, about ID. :) The bacterial flagella will get their own dance number. Make it a porno and the flagella are really proto dildos.  That and fart jokes will sell to the creationists.   ??? Oh, the bacterial flagellum is so totally a phallic symbol for these Han Solo wannabees. Am I the only one to notice that? ;) No. I thought it rather obvious.

Date: 2007/06/21 21:33:45, Link 69.213.253.122

Author: khan

An interesting tangent on risk of death: --------------------------------- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19334698/ More deaths by sand than sharks People naturally worry about splashier threats, like shark attacks. However, the Marons’ research found there were 16 sand hole or tunnel deaths in the U.S. from 1990-2006 compared with 12 fatal shark attacks for the same period, according to University of Florida statistics. And Bradley Maron thinks the sand-related deaths are less well-documented than shark attacks.

Date: 2007/06/26 19:56:58, Link 69.213.254.125

Author: khan

Quote Battle Beyond The Stars. I recall watching this on TV; truly bad cinema.  A few years later I read the review in the local TV guide and it was referred to as a 'spoof'.  When it's so bad it's funny, pretend you meant it that way. And then there's "Frogs" http://imdb.com/title/tt0068615/   Featuring Sam Elliot without a mustache.

Date: 2007/06/27 19:59:01, Link 68.253.227.249

Author: khan

Quote (qetzal @ June 27 2007,17:27) After last night's post, I remembered Lair of the White Worm. Seems I wasn't the only one. Another 'scientist as hero' movie is Day of the Locust. Giant grasshoppers attack New York, IIRC. The hero (an entomologist, I presume) plays amplified grasshopper noises to lure them all out to sea to drown. Starring Peter Graves (of TV show "Mission Impossible").

Date: 2007/06/29 09:53:09, Link 69.216.52.137

Author: khan

Quote (nuytsia @ June 29 2007,02:27) I don't think anyones mentioned The Green Slime? I remember seeing this about twenty years ago, but only because of the truly awful music. It was a pretty bad film as I recall. I saw The Green Slime in college at the student union; MST3K style. Near the end there's a scene where the slime creatures are on fire; someone in the audience yelled: "Crispy Critters!"

Date: 2007/07/02 20:54:56, Link 69.213.254.164

Author: khan

I need a husband and a wife.

Date: 2007/07/04 13:13:38, Link 69.214.52.179

Author: khan

Interesting that someone in his claimed position would write of 'Ridalin'.

Date: 2007/07/05 09:32:02, Link 69.221.212.25

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ July 05 2007,07:47) Quote Infinite-energy theory challenges materialist thermodynamics dogma Ask a materialist if an infinitely powerful entity is possible, and they will give you a "No!", without even bothering to consider the question for a moment. The materialist understanding of the laws of thermodynamics exclude any understanding of systems that have infinite energy. Unfortunately for materialists, their understanding of these basic scientific principles is about to receive a major challenge. Sean McCarthy and Richard Walshe, the two boffins behind Steorn Research unveiled their latest gizmo: The Orbo, a magnetic engine which according to carefully controlled experiments can produce up to three times as much energy as is put into it,effectively creating an infinite amount of energy from apparently nowhere. Steorn's findings totally undermine the basic premise of materialism, simply by demonstrating a confirmed physical effect that materialists predict cannot happen. These clever Irish researchers have demonstrated that the principles of thermodynamics function in a manner far closer to the predictions of William Dembski and William Brookfield than the clearly flawed thermodynamic claims of Hawkings and Maxwell. The same scientists who tell you that Intelligent Design is impossible also dispute the hard-facts of Steorn's peer-reviewed findings. I predict that this humble contraption will show the world just how much materialists have misled mainstream-science. Peace Helena B | hblavatsky's blog | login or register to post comments | 3 points http://www.overwhelmingevidence.com/oe/node/314 Perpetual Motion Machines? Good grief!

Date: 2007/07/05 20:45:26, Link 69.221.212.25

Author: khan

Quote (Paul Flocken @ July 05 2007,20:42) Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ July 05 2007,17:31) Quote (carlsonjok @ July 05 2007,11:52) Chelsea Clinton, on the other hand, seems to be an ideal young woman.   I actually got arrested with her once (well, along with a hundred or so other people), at a rally in front of the South African Embassy during the apartheid days. She struck me as a very nice, down to earth person. I am going to call BS on that.  Citation please. I do recall Ms Clinton being part of an anti apartheid rally; whether the poster was there is another matter, but I will take his word for it.

Date: 2007/07/06 09:40:53, Link 69.216.52.12

Author: khan

Quote (Paul Flocken @ July 05 2007,20:56) With a little googling I have not been able to determine that Chelsea Clinton was ever arrested for protesting.  When apartheid ended she was only 13-14.  I doubt an arrest would be warranted for that age or earlier.  I have discovered that Amy Carter, daughter of Jimmy Carter, was arrested three times for protests.  I am dimly aware of those.  Perhaps Lenny is mixing up his presidential daughters.  I still want to see a citation. You're right, I conflated the two.

Date: 2007/07/06 09:53:27, Link 69.216.52.12

Author: khan

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 06 2007,08:26) Quote (dhogaza @ July 06 2007,07:54) Quote IIRC, condors may be the biggest birds around capable of flight. High weight for the California condor is about 23 pounds, according to Wikipedia. Naw, trumpeter swans can weigh close to 30 lbs. And they really fly.  None of that wimpy-assed soaring shit :) Mongolians do their eagle falconry from horseback. Other species of condor are noted by Wikipedia to get up to 15 kg, which puts those and the trumpeter swans pretty close, weight-wise. http://scienceblogs.com/grrlsci....lid.php Argentavis magnificens is the largest bird known. It lived six million years ago during the Miocene period throughout Argentina. It is nearly the size of a Cessna 152 light aircraft, with a 23-foot (7-meter) wing span and weighing approximately 150-pounds (70-kilograms).

Date: 2007/07/09 07:53:19, Link 68.254.29.111

Author: khan

Another one I saw at college: Billy the Kid versus Dracula http://imdb.com/title/tt0060168/ Quote William 'Billy the Kid' Bonney: What's wrong with her, Doc? What are those marks on her neck? Dr. Henrietta Hull: Well, if I didn't know better, I'd say it was the work of a vampire.

Date: 2007/07/11 18:51:23, Link 69.213.255.30

Author: khan

Quote (RF Brady @ July 11 2007,15:59) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 11 2007,15:38) Wow. Rewrite that in broken English and drop the word 'Darwin' a few times and you could pass for VMartin. Glen, seriously, your behavior here is quite dysfunctional. I hope this kind of stuff isn't the norm for your personal life.   Quote Best you can do, eh Arden?   I'm not trying to best you, Glen. Be well. I just thought I'd jump in here for a moment. I don't know Glen, but has anybody ever thought of introducing him to FtK. I think that would be "interesting". BTW what the hell is that website listed in Glen's sig line??? ??? I'm not sure, as it hurts too much to read.

Date: 2007/07/15 16:50:13, Link 69.214.56.3

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ July 15 2007,14:44) On a related note, it's not only grammatical incoherence these chappies and chappesses suffer from. Here's a quick quiz for one and all, especially our chum Skeptic: Separation of Church and State Louis 20. Thought there was something putting "In God We Trust" on money in 1914.

Date: 2007/07/17 21:37:35, Link 69.213.243.23

Author: khan

Quote (Kristine @ July 17 2007,11:23) Revealing statement.   Quote In an interview I remember him [Bart Ehrman] saying that he wishes he could believe, but finds himself unable to do so. This has got to be one of the saddest things I’ve ever read, and it troubles me deeply as a Christian (for two reasons: one, it stirrs doubts in my own mind And next, same commenter: Quote Of course, the problem with what I said above, is that Ehrman has not kept this to himself. He has written several books that have raised doubts in people’s minds, and other equally competent scholars have responded to his writings. Dembski's purpose for this whining about atheist best-sellers in a nut (literally) shell. "I tawt I taw a puddy cat" -Hey, I'm old.

Date: 2007/08/16 14:27:13, Link 69.221.215.249

Author: khan

Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Aug. 16 2007,09:00) Quote Something about this seems incredibly unwholsome Oh no, it's the incontrovertible argument from misspelled unwholesomeness! We should just admit goddidit to prevent further embarassment. Whatever the spelling, that's an odd choice of a word.

Date: 2007/08/18 09:21:42, Link 70.227.40.222

Author: khan

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Aug. 18 2007,05:38) For some reason I clicked on the Amazon Link Denise gave on her latest screed. Well, TBH I thought there would be a few funny reviews on her book but it's not out yet. The blub says   Quote Many scientists ignore hard evidence that challenges their materialistic prejudice, clinging to the limited view that our experiences are explainable only by material causes, in the obstinate conviction that the physical world is the only reality. But scientific materialism is at a loss to explain irrefutable accounts of mind over matter, of intuition, willpower, and leaps of faith, of the "placebo effect" in medicine, of near-death experiences on the operating table, and of psychic premonitions of a loved one in crisis, to say nothing of the occasional sense of oneness with nature and mystical experiences in meditation or prayer. Traditional science explains away these and other occurrences as delusions or misunderstandings, but by exploring the latest neurological research on phenomena such as these, The Spiritual Brain gets to their real source. I wrote something like that when I was 16; but I got over it.

Date: 2007/08/24 21:53:43, Link 69.213.245.69

Author: khan

Quote (JAM @ Aug. 24 2007,18:28) A thick slab of tard from one of the UD commenters (Charles Foljambe) from that thread here: He's all over any comments, too: This could be fun! The Tard is strong with this one.

Date: 2007/08/27 22:19:22, Link 69.213.252.99

Author: khan

Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 27 2007,14:16) Quote (blipey @ Aug. 27 2007,13:54) Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 27 2007,12:53) I've caught UD regular Joe G at my UD-inspired blogtrap.  He's a persistent little guy.  Does anybody want to come over  and help me whack him around for a bit? Joe should work in a sideshow tent.  Truly a wonder of the modern world. You bet.  What a maroon.  And thanks for the help blipey (and Smokey).   Joe G has provided me with a new line for my sig: "I will show you what you want when you show up at my door."   Tard. Sounds like a country song.

Date: 2007/08/27 22:29:21, Link 69.213.252.99

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2007,20:39) Having bombed out in his attempt to be the Great Fundy Poet Laureate of the Twentieth Century, BornAgain77 continues to take solace in his keen gift for projection:   Quote bornagain77 08/27/2007 7:53 pm Sooner or later they?ve GOT to start questioning underlying assumptions. (Naive, ain?t I?) LOL You Know a while back I would of said you had a shot at convincing, or at least raising some suspicion, in some evolutionists but now I realize that the brainwashing in truly deep in some of these people and no amount of clear reasoning can get through to them. He actually wrote: "would of"?

Date: 2007/08/31 21:40:00, Link 69.213.252.43

Author: khan

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Aug. 31 2007,17:29) Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 31 2007,14:44) My first car. Bought is used and 12 years old. ?Those canvas side-curtains and button snap top were perfectly designed for those long cold Mid-Western winters. ? My first car was a '73 MG Midget, that I bought in '79. It was in the shop every weekend, it seemed. But I drove it almost ten years. I drove a '73 Midget that I bought in '73.  What didn't go wrong with it. Drove it from NJ to CA with a companion and with everything I owned in the trunk. Occasionally I miss being young. Gave it to charity in '89 after sitting in the garage for four years.

Date: 2007/08/31 21:44:02, Link 69.213.252.43

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 31 2007,19:30) Heh.  My first car (1985) was a '68 VW bug.  It had been sitting in a field for two years, and yes I did have to chase the field mice from under the back seat.  Gave it a jump and drove it away. It had plenty of horsepower.  It'd do 0 - 60 in 4.9 minutes. :D Had one of those too (a '67).  The car salesman showed me how to drive a stickshift.  Took me a week to get it into 4th (city traffic).

Date: 2007/09/04 22:04:25, Link 69.213.254.188

Author: khan

Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 04 2007,16:01) Just had another thought... The whole Dembksi / UD / ID saga is perfect for TV.   It's got pathos, gross stupidity, a guy everyone loves to hate... another guy everyone loves to hate... well, it's got A LOT OF GUYS (including Denyse) that people love to hate... The zany UD madcaps are always in trouble, and hilarity ensues.  Every week, Demsbksi and his "Igor" (DaveScot) try to get into another university, but just like Gilligan and his crew never got off the island, UD et al, never get in another University! Standing joke:  Casey Luskin (played by himself, cuz no one else could be as whiney) trying to say something smart, but it always comes out dumb... "Casey You struck out" will be the line on everyone's lips for the whole first season. Call the show "Trainwrecked" and you've got yourself a winner! A thought: Dembski is 47. An age when men in our society are supposed to be climbing in their careers. Here he is hitting middle age crisis time and stuck at BFE Bible College as 'Research Professor in Philosophy' (what the heck does that entail?). http://www.swbts.edu/index.c....0415379

Date: 2007/09/06 20:40:29, Link 68.79.183.29

Author: khan

Could it be: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin....&nl=fix Hate email to columnist Mark Morford, second one down.

Date: 2007/09/12 20:57:03, Link 68.253.227.46

Author: khan

Innerbling 09/12/2007 5:42 pm Every case ID-proponents provide translates to atheists as a attempt to proof the existence of God. It’s truly sad for scientific progress when religion and science gets mixed.

Date: 2007/09/18 21:30:14, Link 67.39.21.4

Author: khan

Back in high school it occurred to me that Lamarkism could be  dismissed based on the facts that men had spent many years and generations shaving their faces. And most women in the USA have been shaving legs and armpits for a few generations. But the little tiny hairs keep growing.

Date: 2007/09/30 11:02:49, Link 69.213.253.159

Author: khan

Quote It just makes sex a joke or a game rather than striving to make it something special that leads to a loving family and vile free lifestyle.  In the end, it's pretty obvious that people who stay away from those kinds of perversions are happier and much healthier. How about heterosexuals who don't want families?  Are they perverts? And what is so vile about being free?

Date: 2007/10/10 22:24:16, Link 68.253.238.23

Author: khan

Quote 3) For the scientists and people who accept modern evolutionary biology as the best explanation we currently have for the diversity of life on earth: What if you are wrong and IDC or YEC or whatever creationism you care to name is correct? How would feel and what would you do? What are the social, ethical and political ramifications of this, if any? There would be no need to do any scientific investigation on anything ever again. Any/all evidence/history can be changed/faked at whim by The Powers That Be just to deceive/test people. And TPTB also could shift its (their?) nature and the resulting rules and consequences at whim. Last Thursdayism writ large.

Date: 2007/10/18 21:03:45, Link 67.39.20.11

Author: khan

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 18 2007,20:26) Among the "neglected comedies" I would have to include George Hamilton's cult classic "Zorro, The Gay Blade". If you haven't seen it, check it out. Truly hilarious, from beginning to end. Yeah, I know George Hamilton is not a great actor, but this is a movie that makes me laugh out loud every time I watch it (and that would be dozens of times). This is especially recommended for RTH. A great one. Love at First Bite (1979) was also pretty good.

Date: 2007/10/25 17:36:57, Link 69.214.55.165

Author: khan

Quote (blipey @ Oct. 25 2007,08:49) I'm going to have to break my own bad habit and stop archiving here (as Ftk is completely oblivious to her own denseness and never disappears anything), but for now: Darwinists are racist cartoon! What do I use to view that?

Date: 2007/11/10 20:08:50, Link 68.253.230.123

Author: khan

Quote (Hermagoras @ Nov. 10 2007,19:19) Peter notes that aborted babies are being replaced by wetbacks.     Quote Don’t forget the 50 million and counting babies killed in America after it became a secular state. At 1.5 million babies killed a year, it won’t be long before this will be the worst mass murder in history. . . . . . Does anyone ever wonder way there are 20+ million illegal (permanent?) immigrants in America at this point in its history? Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the world. That is DI-approved Grade A Tard, folks. "Abortion was invented in 1973." quoth the Tard

Date: 2007/11/14 20:20:40, Link 69.214.55.8

Author: khan

I'd like to put in a word for The Pink Pony Pub http://pinkponypub.net/ and the Florabama http://www.florabama.com/

Date: 2007/11/15 22:03:44, Link 69.214.49.240

Author: khan

http://www.windscafe.com/ Local and well prepared.

Date: 2007/12/12 16:23:35, Link 69.213.251.24

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 12 2007,08:15) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 12 2007,08:01) an emergency project came up at work last thursday and instead of normal business hours I've been working from late evenings to 6, 7, 8, even 9 am for the past week. Well, it's totally destroyed my drinking schedule. I'm not going to get off at 8 am and have some drinks. Nor am I going to go to sleep, wake up at 5 pm, have a few drinks, and then sober up before working. So I have nothing interesting to report on the booze front. Holy Crap, is nothing sacred anymore? A job should NEVER interfere with alcohol consumption, and should in fact CAUSE alcohol consumption.  It's a law, I think.  Federal, maybe.  Call OSHA. "Work is the curse of the drinking class."

Date: 2007/12/16 18:31:47, Link 69.213.243.72

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 16 2007,12:08) Quote The Year in ID - 2007 Edition. Category: Intelligent Design Posted on: December 16, 2007 10:49 AM, by John Lynch Twelve months ago I offered a roundup of the "advances" made by the intelligent design movement in 2006, a month-by-month roundup which differed significantly from the assessment of John West. I had started to do the same for this year, but quickly realized that the ID movement achieved absolutely nothing over the past twelve months. They had achieved so little, I was actually not posting much on the subject. Seriously. Sure, I discussed West getting destroyed in public by historian Mark Borrello, and Frank Beckwith quitting the DI, but by and large the year was filled with ... nothing. The Disco Institute spent the end of the year either beating the dead horse that is Gonzalez’s tenure rejection, blathering on about Expelled or cheerleading Antony Flew’s conversion. (Of course the latter doesn’t mention Flew’s apparent eugenic sympathies.) Put bluntly, ID has not moved forward as a science one iota since this time last year. Depressing really. I mean, you’d like the opposition to at least try, otherwise the victories are just too damned easy. http://scienceblogs.com/strange....ion.php and you gotta love Lynch's LOLCreationist: Has anyone thought of copying that sweater and selling it to raise money for the cause?

Date: 2007/12/16 18:52:18, Link 69.213.243.72

Author: khan

I just had a thought of folks wearing them at a ScienceBloggers get together.

Date: 2007/12/29 08:56:57, Link 68.79.182.10

Author: khan

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 29 2007,05:48) Quote the burden of proof does not lie on the theist It does Skeptic, because they're making the claim. Funny thing is, we're just talking about 1 single image of God, just skeptic's one. There are billions of idea's about what God is. "God", as a word, is meaningless unless a person gives meaning to that word. We don't know what meaning Skeptic gave to the word "God". But he has to take 1 thing in notion: he's just 1 single person, out of 6 billion. He's just 1 of the billions of idea's about what God is, that puts things in perspective. Because out of all those billions of people why would YOU Skeptic be right. Is the possibility of one god the same as the possibility of 2 gods?  7?  31?...

Date: 2007/12/29 20:27:06, Link 68.79.182.10

Author: khan

Found a Creationist Bingo: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2007/09/bingo-creationi.html

Date: 2007/12/31 14:50:05, Link 69.213.245.98

Author: khan

Quote And, for the record, I'd be a *fool* to give you the names of people who peer-reviewed Walt's work.  You'd pick them off one by one and ridicule them and their credentials regardless.   ID 'science' activities in a nutshell: "The book was peer-reviewed but we can't tell you by whom." "We're conducting scientific research but where and about what have to remain secret." "We're giving an ID award, but the recipient's identity must remain secret." Reminds me of a bunch of 8 year old boys.

Date: 2008/01/18 18:42:48, Link 68.254.31.71

Author: khan

Quote my husband's mother gave us 3 acres to build on so we could live next to her...saved us a lot of money. Live next door to your MIL? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh! -edited 'cause I can't type worth ****

Date: 2008/01/22 21:06:18, Link 69.213.245.104

Author: khan

People support him in email; that's all we need to know.

Date: 2008/01/27 17:58:25, Link 69.213.245.144

Author: khan

Quote for the purpose of converting our youth to godless atheism Is there some other kind?

Date: 2008/02/11 20:47:53, Link 67.39.21.118

Author: khan

Quote There are basic tenants of Christianity which are loud and clear. What do Christians charge for rent? Look up 'tenant' and 'tenet'.

Date: 2008/02/13 18:41:48, Link 69.214.51.79

Author: khan

She lies like a fundie.

Date: 2008/02/19 18:52:11, Link 69.213.252.73

Author: khan

I'M GLAD I'M NOT YOUNG ANYMORE From "Gigi" (1958) (Lyrics : Alan Jay Lerner / Music : Frederick Loewe) Poor boy! Poor boy! Down-hearted and depressed and in a spin Poor boy! Poor boy! Oh, youth can really do a fellow in! How lovely to sit here in the shade With none of the woes of man and maid I'm glad I'm not young anymore The rivals that don't exist at all The feeling you're only two feet tall I'm glad that I'm not young anymore No more confusion No morning-after surprise No self-delusion That when you're telling those lies She isn't wise And even if love comes through the door The chance that goes on forevermore Forevermore is shorter than before Oh, I'm so glad that I'm not young anymore The tiny remark that tortures you The fear that your friends won't like her too I'm glad I'm not young anymore The longing to end the stale affair Until you find out she doesn't care I'm glad that I'm not young anymore No more frustration No star-crossed lover am I No aggravation Just one reluctant reply "Lady, goodbye!" The Fountain of Youth is dull as paint Methuselah is my patron saint I've never been so comfortable before Oh, I'm so glad that I'm not young anymore

Date: 2008/02/19 19:10:56, Link 69.213.252.73

Author: khan

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 19 2008,08:50) DaveScot:   Quote If you can’t prove or disprove the design hypothesis then it follows you can’t prove or disprove the non-design hypothesis. Thus ID and MET are equally pseudo-scientific. Objectivity (no double standards) would then compel us to reject both. In other words, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Breaking news: Davescot says ID is pseudo-science. Welcome to the real world DaveScot! Can you have your cheesy-poofs and eat them too DS? Tard http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008....-doodle

Date: 2008/02/24 18:47:01, Link 69.213.250.31

Author: khan

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 23 2008,21:56) More Good Taste from UD:       Quote 23 February 2008 Expelled change of release date centers on the dates of Darwin’s birth and death salamanca Ben Stein’s Expelled (www.expelledthemovie.com) was originally scheduled to be released on February 12th of this year — Darwin’s (and Abraham Lincoln’s) birthday. The official release date now is the weekend of April 18th. Saturday, April 19th, is the day that Darwin died. Perhaps this shift of dates is not coincidental. If you’re going to see Expelled opening weekend, think about seeing it on the 19th to celebrate Darwinism’s passing. There's a very slim chance this isn't a case of juvenile bad taste.  Many Catholic Saint's Days celebrate the day the saint became a martyr.  Maybe he's trying to say Darwin is a saint and martyr.  But I think that the odds of Salamanca not being a juvie prick are way over the Universal Probability Boundary. April 18 is the day Einstein died (1955). It's also Paul Revere's ride day (On the eighteenth of April in seventy-five, hardly a man is now alive...)

Date: 2008/02/25 19:40:42, Link 68.254.29.166

Author: khan

As I read this thread (and sometimes venture to UD) an image comes to mind: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2bm7aj Tard flowing from UD like lava flowing from Vesuvius.

Date: 2008/02/25 19:45:08, Link 68.254.29.166

Author: khan

Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 25 2008,18:06) Who can quote from the first season of "Space 1999"? Arden? :) "Human decision required."

Date: 2008/02/28 19:29:50, Link 68.254.29.131

Author: khan

Quote (olegt @ Feb. 28 2008,09:56) From Ben Stein's op-ed Darwinism: The Imperialism of Biology?   Quote Maybe we would have a new theory: We are just pitiful humans. Life is unimaginably complex. We are still trying to figure it out. We need every bit of input we can get. Let's be humble about what we know and what we don't know, and maybe in time, some answers will come. Shorter Ben Stein: I no nuttin' and iz proud of it. "I know plenty o' nuthin And nuthin's plenty for me"

Date: 2008/03/03 19:15:41, Link 69.213.249.168

Author: khan

I live in Ohio.  I have received calls from Obama, Clinton, and Paul (as well as some locals).  McCain and Huckabee have not called.

Date: 2008/03/05 18:49:00, Link 68.253.228.241

Author: khan

Quote poachy: Thank you, Granville! Someone had to say it. When I think off all the thousands of biologists with all their book learning and fancy degrees, it is just maddening that they refuse to recongize what is obvious to a simple high school graduate like myself. Is this not the final plaint of all cranks? That all the educated folks are blind to the 'facts' so obvious to the average tard?

Date: 2008/03/09 18:58:06, Link 69.213.249.217

Author: khan

Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 09 2008,00:30) In the Uncommon Descent 'Speaking of T-Shirts' thread:       Quote 4 Larry Fafarman 03/08/2008 11:08 am Some of the holiest things don’t even have names. In Judaism, god has no name. In the Koran, Jerusalem has no name. 5 Frost122585 03/08/2008 11:54 am In Judaism God has a name’ “Yahweh” - Or Jahova- but you aren’t supposed to ever say it. I dont know where you got the idea that God has no name in Judaism from. 6 PannenbergOmega 03/08/2008 12:23 pm Does not the Lord God say to Moses that He is I Am? 7 DaveScot 03/08/2008 2:00 pm re; Yahweh According to a long history of religion I read many years ago that’s YHWH and is not to be pronounced. The 4-letter ancient Hebrew name was translated into english in one variation as JHVH which should be more familiar to American audiences as JeHoVaH. 8 Apollos 03/08/2008 2:04 pm I believe that Jerusalem (Al-Quds) is nameless in the Qu’ran because it’s not referenced anywhere in the Qu’ran. 9 Apollos 03/08/2008 2:27 pm Both Yahweh and Jehovah are transliterations (YHWH JHVH) of the literal, actual, and unpronounceable (in more ways than one) name of God, comprised of the Hebrew letters: Yod, Heh, Vav, and Heh. The construction is known as the Tetragrammaton (word of four letters). 10 StephenB 03/08/2008 2:44 pm In the Old Testament, God deals with primitive people through primitive means, so there is certain relational distance. Bad behavior must be addressed before the subject of intentions and motives can be introduced. That means that there is a lot of violence and crude behavior on both sides. The relationship gradually changes from master/slave to father/God as the crude behavior becomes somewhat more civilized. At that level, a covenant is possible, but intimacy is still a problem. In the New Testament, the relationship between God and man gradually becomes more intimate, first to the level of friendship, and finally to the level of mutual, self sacrificial love. Concurrently, man begins to consider not only his behavior but the intentions and motives in back of that behavior. What a person does is important, but why he does it is infinitely more important. As that relationship develops, and God becomes known (only analogically of course) man can call on the heavenly father/God in much the same way he would call on an earthly father. In Islam, there is no room for this kind of intimacy because the relationship never advances beyond that of a slave to his master. Accordingly, the slave’s motives never advance beyond obeisance, servility, and duty. 11 jstanley01 03/08/2008 3:27 pm DaveScot: According to a long history of religion I read many years ago that’s YHWH and is not to be pronounced. Judaism has taught, perhaps as far back as the 3rd century B.C., that it’s unlawful to utter the tetragrammaton. The tradition falls short of being Biblical, however, seeing as how Ruth 2:4 says: And, behold, Boaz came from Bethlehem, and said unto the reapers, The Lord [Hebrew, YHWH] be with you. And they answered him, The Lord [Hebrew, YHWH] bless thee. 12 Lutepisc 03/08/2008 3:48 pm I hope some Hebrew scholar can come along and correct/add to what I recall about the word YHWH. I took only one year of Hebrew, and made B’s, so I’m pretty much at the “lay” level of expertise here. I’m recalling that the etiology of the tetragrammaton has its roots in the Hebrew verb “to be,” which IIRC is “yiyeh” (the consonants for that would be YHYH). (Sorry I have to transliterate, as I don’t know how to get Hebrew into the blog here.) When Moses encounters the burning bush in Exodus, he asks, “Whom shall I say sent me (to lead the Israelites out of Egypt)?” Out of the bush comes the reply, “I am the one who is. Tell them ‘I am’ has sent you.” “You are to say to the children of Israel, YHWH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, has sent me to you.” The tetragrammaton was sacred, since names were thought to embody the essence of the one named. It was not to be pronounced. Traditionally, “Ha Shem” is used as a substitute, which means simply “The Name.” Instead, another name was customarily pronounced there (there are many names for the one God in the Hebrew Bible). It may have been “Adonai” or “Elohim,” I don’t remember (but I’m guessing some other UD reader will know). As a reminder to readers of the Biblical text to say “Adonai” rather than “Yahweh” in those places where the tetragrammaton was written, the vowel markings from the substitute name were used wherever the tetragrammaton appeared in the text. If you don’t know this history but you do know the Hebrew vowels and consonants, you will read the resulting “word” as “Jehovah.” (JeHoVaH.) But there actually is no such word as “Jehovah.” It’s a conflation of the tetragrammaton and the substitute name for God. As a sideline (this seems to be as good a place as any to say this), I think the name spoken to Moses from the burning bush in Exodus is a really astute response to Dawkins’ question, “Who designed the designer?” If the designer is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (which clearly isn’t necessary for ID but dovetails nicely with ID), then no one designed the designer. The designer is “the One Who Is”…whose essence is His existence. Who is, as Paul Tillich puts it, “the ground of being.” 13 Gods iPod 03/08/2008 3:57 pm I study Hebrew. Apollos is correct. 14 jstanley01 03/08/2008 4:14 pm StephenB: In the New Testament, the relationship between God and man gradually becomes more intimate… At the risk of interjecting more theological observations here than the guidelines are wont to welcome: Rather abruptly, actually, on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4), the relationship of believers to the Father became one of sons (Greek, huios, used equally of sons and daughters): Galatians 4:4-7 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons [Greek, huiothesia, literally “placement as sons”]. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Not a bad deal, actually… 15 Lutepisc 03/08/2008 4:20 pm God’s iPod, I’m not sure what you mean. JHVH and YHWH are simply two different English transliterations of the tetragrammaton, which consists only of consonants. The vowels come from somewhere else. 16 Apollos 03/08/2008 4:30 pm That’s a great point about the Ruth reference, jstanley. Some have suggested that the change in practice came about as a result of the Babylonian captivity, where many Hebrew words obtained their Aramaic meaning. Hence, where the Law stated that it was a sin to blashpeme the name of God, the Aramaic equivalent imposed the meaning pronounce the name of God. It’s an interesting theory. Yahweh - Wikipedia. (See Historical Overview.) However I searched all throughout the Old Testament and found verbal references to YHWH, even in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah (post Babylonian captivity). So this would be something that happened probably between 430 BC and around 270 BC, as extant copies of the Septuagint substitute kurios (Gr.) among other words. This may have been a result of the imposition of Greek law upon the known world, circa 332 BC. Also, New Testament books largely quote from the Septuagint, making use of the kurios locution. 17 StephenB 03/08/2008 4:35 pm jstanley01: I think your comments are appropriate for the thread. The issue of God’s approachability developed naturally from Dave’s worship theme, which was quite funny by the way. 18 jstanley01 03/08/2008 5:12 pm Apollos: Actually, I swiped the Ruth reference from the Wikipedia article Names of God in Judaism. But I suspected what your research has borne out — that its not the only verbal reference ins Scripture for YHWH. Discombobulating ancient traditions from the original Biblical practices is often a daunting task. Take the phylacteries of Matthew 23:5, that orthodox Jews wear to this day; apparently in a literal obedience to Proverbs 3:3 et. al., which were commands that I believe were originally meant to be taken figuratively. All science so far. Even if he does say Jehovah http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeq2Utm0nU

Date: 2008/03/12 19:18:34, Link 69.213.249.94

Author: khan

Quote (slpage @ Mar. 12 2008,19:44) Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 12 2008,09:11)   Quote (slpage @ Mar. 12 2008,08:45)     Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 12 2008,07:32) Another piece in the Joe G puzzle. In response to a question from Allen MacNeill:     Quote         Quote And, while we’re at it, what field and laboratory research have you done to collect empirical evidence for an alternate theory, and where has it been published? I have been too busy working on national security issues- detecting biological & chemical agents- and recovering from injuries I sustained in Iraq- three surgeries down and hopefully only one more to go. Looks like he is a bit delusional. He's an electronics engineer - a technician - for crying out loud... Sounds like he may have been a civilian contractor. Maybe he hurt his back lifting a refrigerator. Or digging a latrine... Unfortunately, ol' Joey complained about having back surgery YEARS ago - well before the 'war on terror'. I think he is just milking it, trying to make himself out to be a tough guy getting hurt in Iraq.... digging latrines...  I think his original back problem stemmed from trying to engage in autofellatio and realising that he couldn't quite reach. There once was a man from Nantucket...

Date: 2008/03/16 17:53:24, Link 67.39.23.145

Author: khan

[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin] Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 16 2008,17:06) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 16 2008,17:01) gross i like to take a dump before i take a shower. Admit it: You like the dump best IN the shower. http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/index.php?id=441

Date: 2008/03/24 20:40:04, Link 68.79.182.238

Author: khan

I wish I had known the circus was in town in November, only a mile or two from my house.  Ah well.

Date: 2008/03/25 19:38:11, Link 69.213.249.69

Author: khan

Listen my children and you shall hear Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere, On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five...

Date: 2008/03/25 19:46:13, Link 69.213.249.69

Author: khan

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 25 2008,20:06) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 25 2008,16:18) DaveTard:   Quote I suggest you heed what my mother taught me: People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Err… come to think of it that wasn’t my mom. It was my immediate superior in the Marine Corps 30 years ago who said that. He moonlighted as a bartender and, like all great bartenders, had short bits of good advice handy for any situation. Actually, Dave, that WAS your mother. My bold.  That would be Latrine Digger, First Class. http://imdb.com/title/tt0052005/quotes [after Will has spent all night cleaning the latrine, Sgt. King is amazed at how beautiful it is] Sergeant King: Wait 'til the Captain sees this. Why he inspects this place like it was an operating room where somebody was gonna cut out his heart. Never in your life have you seen such a guy for stickin' his head right down into things. [looks at the commodes] Will Stockdale: You figure he'll like what I done? Sergeant King: He'll be a new man. Will, uh, how would you like to be Permanent Latrine Orderly? Will Stockdale: Permanent Latrine Orderly? Sergeant King: P.L.O. Will Stockdale: Go-o-o-lee!

Date: 2008/04/01 19:29:04, Link 69.213.249.184

Author: khan

Good grief.  ID is even stupider than I thought.  It's too stupid for Dinesh D'Souza. I wouldn't have thought that possible.

Date: 2008/04/01 19:32:01, Link 69.213.249.184

Author: khan

Quote What's especially ironic is that Ann Coulter, who enlisted Dembski's help for her horrid little book attacking evolution, used to bump uglies with D'Souza many years ago. What a hideous image. BTW: Isn't 'bumping' outside of marriage supposed to be 'a bad thing'?

Date: 2008/04/02 18:19:42, Link 67.39.23.4

Author: khan

Quote A computer glitch, however, made it possible for certain individuals to RSVP to some screenings when they in fact had not been invited, Mathis said. The same glitch also occurred on March 19 in Boston where at least 30 percent of the audience members were antagonistic toward the film's message, he said. I thought blaming the computer for your own incompetence went out in the '80s.

Date: 2008/04/02 18:37:20, Link 67.39.23.4

Author: khan

Does this count: http://www.problemsolvers.com/product.asp?pcode=859

Date: 2008/04/04 18:49:21, Link 69.213.252.3

Author: khan

Quote I've been developing a faux conspiracy theory for a story I'm writing that uses income inequality as its premise. The super wealthy have a sort of tri-lateral commission type agency where they conspire to bring about double inflation for a period of time until money is worth about 10% of current value. The super rich first buy up the assets since they are now the only ones with any cash and create the only jobs in the chaos, that of soldiers in their private armies, and let the public works dissolve. With no running water, electricity, gas etc, and environmental destruction exacerbated by desperation the humans not living in the enclaves die off, horribly of course… I think we're headed for the New Feudalism.  And Joe Sixpack thinks that's a good idea, because he envisions himself inside the moat. Quote Anyway, persons are reasonable, people aren't. I've met a lot of very civic minded business and political leaders but they often suffer from the infinite resource syndrome. They just can't accept that logical conclusions follow from evidence. One person actually said to me (referring to the Ogallala aquifer in the American Midwest) during a presentation I was giving on various managed resource systems, "We'll just genetically engineer salt resistant crops. What are you, a Malthusian liberal?" I simply can't imagine any way to feed 9 billion people after  peak oil (coal, natural gas, fish, grain, clean water...) Probably, like the polar bears, we shall start eating each other. People on left and right seem to be assuming a deus ex machina.

Date: 2008/04/07 19:33:57, Link 67.39.23.8

Author: khan

Quote (Cheezits @ April 07 2008,16:44) Quote (kevinmillerxi @ April 07 2008,14:43) Louis said, "I wonder if Kevin knows how much Hitler was influenced by christianity, and just how irrelevant to the factual accuracy of either evolutionary biology or christianity such "arguments" are." I'm fully aware of how Hitler was influenced by christianity, enough to know that he fully rejected Christian ethics as weak and unnatural. His overriding ethic was that only the strongest should be allowed to survive. That was the rule of nature, so we should do everything possible to help evolution along. How does this bear on the factual accuracy of evolutionary biology? Not at all. But evolutionary biology has never been just about the science. Why else would there be such a heated debate over it? All scientific theories and philosophies have consequences, intended or otherwise. So you can't just pretend like the connection doesn't exist. Hitler isn't the only one to pick up on the ethical implications of Darwinism. They were evident to Darwin himself and everyone else who initially heard his theory. Quote (kevinmillerxi @ April 07 2008,14:43) But evolutionary biology has never been just about the science. Why else would there be such a heated debate over it? Because scientifically illiterate fundies can't understand it and can't cope with the truth.  They've had it drummed into them by their pastors that if evolution is true then God can't exist and their lives have no meaning.  Don't blame biologists for making fundies believe they can't live without their fairy tale version of God! It is very common for cranks/loons to accuse rational folks of being unreasonable/emotional when they point out factual/logical errors.

Date: 2008/04/12 21:11:45, Link 68.253.224.176

Author: khan

Quote (skeptic @ April 12 2008,18:43) I might have to go back and reread because a few things stand out in my memory but foremost was Louis' requirement of context.  Am I thinking of a different thread?  It could be my error, all our discussions tend to blend together.  If I get some spare time I'll go back and refresh myself. lol, I might have just had a Hilary moment. Who (or what) is Hilary?

Date: 2008/04/14 18:08:36, Link 69.213.252.19

Author: khan

A Cooper's Hawk grabbed a bird (finch?) out of midair about 6 feet from my front window (near the bird feeder).  There's also a Northern Harrier that favors doves.

Date: 2008/04/15 16:19:59, Link 67.39.20.81

Author: khan

Is anyone else irritated by 'try and' when it should be 'try to'?

Date: 2008/04/19 20:38:24, Link 69.213.242.129

Author: khan

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 19 2008,14:46) Several people have remarked that, while never formally banned, their comments simply stopped appearing on UD. If that happened to you, then PM me with the details. After conducting a thorough background check*, I'll include you in a compilation of similar unknown soldiers. If you otherwise don't find yourself in my compilation, let me know. * Sent me a PM? Yes. Cleared. I'm not one of the banned, but I am just disgusted by the total infantile puerile amoral behavior of these cretinous yahoos. They can't even openly ban posters. My opinion of fundieshits is only confirmed by their behavior: By their fruits ye shall know (Matthew 7:16)

Date: 2008/04/21 19:52:22, Link 68.79.182.81

Author: khan

since they know that if we took a peak Mt Whitney?

Date: 2008/04/22 18:50:00, Link 69.213.251.55

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ April 22 2008,17:21) Quote In making his case, Gilbert walks us through a series of fascinating--and in some ways troubling--facts about the way our minds work. In particular, Gilbert is interested in delineating the shortcomings of imagination. We're far too accepting of the conclusions of our imaginations. Our imaginations aren't particularly imaginative. (from here, http://www.amazon.com/Stumbling-Happiness-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/1400042666 , also linked from PP) Isn't it a shame Behe didn't understand this. He could have saved himself the embarrassment of the last decade. 'Course, he would have missed out on a lot of cold hard cash, so maybe he's better off. A working hypothesis: When someone says "we all know that...", whatever follows is likely to be ugly and a lie.

Date: 2008/04/22 18:52:02, Link 69.213.251.55

Author: khan

Well I'm only sixteen I've got a ruptured spleen And I always carry a purse

Date: 2008/04/22 19:30:57, Link 69.213.251.55

Author: khan

Quote (Annyday @ April 22 2008,20:02) Quote (khan @ April 22 2008,18:50) Quote (stevestory @ April 22 2008,17:21)   Quote In making his case, Gilbert walks us through a series of fascinating--and in some ways troubling--facts about the way our minds work. In particular, Gilbert is interested in delineating the shortcomings of imagination. We're far too accepting of the conclusions of our imaginations. Our imaginations aren't particularly imaginative. (from here, http://www.amazon.com/Stumbling-Happiness-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/1400042666 , also linked from PP) Isn't it a shame Behe didn't understand this. He could have saved himself the embarrassment of the last decade. 'Course, he would have missed out on a lot of cold hard cash, so maybe he's better off. A working hypothesis: When someone says "we all know that...", whatever follows is likely to be ugly and a lie. Have you ever read Foucault's Pendulum? Right before someone says something completely batshit insane in that book, they always say "As everybody knows..." or equivalent. Strikingly, I have yet to hear such a phrase used in any other context. Haven't read it. I formulated my hypothesis while observing my ex-MIL, who was a devout xian who was intolerant of just about everybody (did you know that the entertainment industry is all a Jewish-Catholic conspiracy?).

Date: 2008/04/22 19:33:22, Link 69.213.251.55

Author: khan

Quote (Quidam @ April 22 2008,20:09) Slimy Sal really does earn his nick name.  Anne was not particularly sickly for an age without the benefits of modern medicine.  Let's hope the anti-science crusaders are not successful and we don't have to go back to pre-enlightenment days First cousin marriages were not and are not uncommon.  God commanded many cousins to marry, including Zelophehad's 5 daughters, Eleazar's daughters, Jacob (who married both Rachel and Leah, first cousins), and Isaac and Rebekkah (first cousins once removed). All were ancestors of Jesus Christ, who as we all know was sickly and died young. Albert Einstein married his first cousin. All European countries permit marriage between first cousins. It is also legal throughout Canada and Mexico for cousins to marry. The USA is the only western country with cousin marriage restrictions - and even here 26 states allow first cousin marriages. The risks are minimal. Minimal, unless it becomes the norm.

Date: 2008/04/24 18:22:27, Link 69.213.243.180

Author: khan

Aren't right-wingers (free enterprise fundies) usually really big on property rights and ownership and such?

Date: 2008/04/26 20:18:35, Link 69.213.250.166

Author: khan

Quote (ERV @ April 26 2008,21:02) Quote (didymos @ April 26 2008,19:09) But, per Dembski: "So, for our culture's secular elite, a film that shows how Christianity 'culminated in the Holocaust' constitutes cutting-edge cultural commentary." I *love* it when WAD talks about The Elite. He has the velvety smooth, lily white hands of a mathematician. But he doesnt actually *work*--Hasnt published shit in math, and boy teaches *one* night class a week in 'theology' or something stupid like that. But boy gets paid just short of $10,000 to blither on about biology for an hour. 'Secular' elite? *rolleyes* Nice work if you can get it.

Date: 2008/04/26 20:24:00, Link 69.213.250.166

Author: khan

Whenever I try to post an avatar, I get a reply saying something about a not allowed type.  What is allowed?

Date: 2008/05/01 18:49:20, Link 67.39.20.112

Author: khan

41? I have clothes that old. Happy Birthday.

Date: 2008/05/01 18:55:31, Link 67.39.20.112

Author: khan

Quote (ERV @ May 01 2008,18:14) Blogger just emailed to apologize. It was a nice little note, and he wanted to assure me that it was an algorithm that deleted me, not a human. I gave him a few suggestions for how to help bloggers. We are cool now. Sounds like the all purpose excuse from the '80s: "The computer made an error."

Date: 2008/05/03 18:35:16, Link 68.253.226.150

Author: khan

Date: 2008/05/10 19:17:35, Link 68.254.30.145

Author: khan

I live in a small house on a small lot (~50' x 100').  Electric wires run across the back of the property. Observed: a cardinal on a wire singing; another cardinal on a wire ~50 or so feet along, singing;  first cardinal walks sideways on the wire and resumes singing; second cardinal responds; first cardinal walks sideways a bit more and resumes singing...

Date: 2008/05/11 12:03:15, Link 68.253.226.41

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 11 2008,12:08) Indeed, the fact that's also a rather scarce (and gorgeous) species of bird makes it even better. Even the big mosquito in his mouth is a delightful touch. Do you take requests? How about a Bachman's Warbler next?  :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....nesbury Quote Dick Davenport - Lacey's longtime friend later married. An avid bird watcher of endangered bird species. Died in a controversial 1986 strip asking God to take a picture of a bachman's warbler.

Date: 2008/05/15 18:40:25, Link 69.223.51.65

Author: khan

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 14 2008,19:16) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 14 2008,15:54) Quote (Mr_Christopher @ May 14 2008,13:59) Looks like Waterloo has been postponed.  Again. Dammit. So I bought all those canned goods and guns for nothing. :angry: OT For the last 20 years or so, when I encounter some nitwit "survivalist" with guns and canned goods, I ask them how large their goat herd is, and how will they deal with the hybrid instability of Golden Bantam? (Trick question about corn, I know.  But it takes 3 years and a couple of acres to get the joke). I was involved in circumventing the Y2K meltdown (via programming drudgery), and observed many of the apocalyptic websites. Observations thereof: Only white male heterosexual protestants need apply Guns and God and Gold are all that is needed to triumph Abysmal knowledge of actual skills needed to survive without infrastructure Manly men can handle draft animals without training Questions about gardening: "Carrots and onions don't produce seeds"

Date: 2008/05/15 19:07:54, Link 69.223.51.65

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2008,13:09) OMG Olberman blasts His Holiness, The Glorified Houseplant Who Would Be Caesar One of his best. Best quote: Quote virtually written in the margins in crayon

Date: 2008/05/20 19:25:49, Link 69.223.87.243

Author: khan

In SW Ohio.

Date: 2008/05/22 20:15:45, Link 69.223.53.51

Author: khan

I grew up in a small town that had a virus named after it: Coxsackie.

Date: 2008/06/01 18:45:48, Link 69.223.84.183

Author: khan

Quote Also, it's the act, not the person, that is forever immoral.  What I mean by that is that there are very few people who haven't engaged in biblically immoral behavior.  I certainly have, and I've also found that those moral reminders in the Bible are there for a reason.  Whenever I've chosen to turn my back on those guidelines, my acts have led to further conflict in my life. You ate shrimp?

Date: 2008/06/03 19:22:04, Link 69.223.40.206

Author: khan

Quote Clicks always pissed me off in high school, and I certainly don't feel any differently now.   Chicks?

Date: 2008/06/09 18:48:05, Link 69.223.42.86

Author: khan

Cap'n, there be serious tard on board.

Date: 2008/06/13 19:21:47, Link 69.223.64.201

Author: khan

I've recently gotten into serious salad making: some proteins and starches and lots of greens and other veggies. A new one yesterday was mustard greens  (from local farmers) with several other vegetables and steak (also local) and walnut oil and red wine vinegar and a bit of mustard.

Date: 2008/06/14 20:41:36, Link 69.223.78.192

Author: khan

As Mother used to say: Good Lord Mable!

Date: 2008/06/19 21:28:07, Link 69.223.55.14

Author: khan

Quote (midwifetoad @ June 19 2008,20:13) Quote hope they take Louisiana to court and make a big deal out of this. This time our side needs to be prepared and force the issue that matters: teaching evolution in public schools is a thinly disguised attempt to teach atheism and that the attempts to silence critique of evolution is proof of an atheist conspiracy to teach a government sanctioned specific religious viewpoint as the only scientific and therefore authentic ontological explanation of our existence and is therefore unconstitutional…as it is nothing more then state sponsorship of a specific religious viewpoint. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-291059 That argumant went over well in Edwards v. Aguillard, didn't it? [QUOTE]The Act does not grant teachers a flexibility that they did not already possess to supplant the present science curriculum with the presentation of theories, besides evolution, about the origin of life. Indeed, the Court of Appeals found that no law prohibited Louisiana public school teachers from teaching any scientific theory. I'm amazed at the huge amounts of energy and time devoted to plumbing new depths of tard.

Date: 2008/06/19 22:03:39, Link 69.223.55.14

Author: khan

I couldn't find the thread about bornagain77 (or is my mind slipping?). Other nanny filter words?: mo^del domin^ation do^min^ion http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-291059

Date: 2008/06/23 20:23:10, Link 69.223.84.145

Author: khan

Seriously, I'd contribute (got my $600 US tax bribe today).

Date: 2008/06/29 18:25:34, Link 69.223.77.113

Author: khan

Hope I die before I get old(er).

Date: 2008/06/30 21:25:17, Link 69.223.87.136

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ June 30 2008,21:38) Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 30 2008,15:18) Is Steve here? Could this be true?       Quote 1 member is celebrating his/her birthday today   >stevestory (32) More importantly, will there be cake? It's no hoax. I am 32 today. I did 32 laps in Bowman Gray pool in celebration this afternoon. There will not be cake, but there will be booze. I bought airplane bottles of Everclear, Woodford Reserve, Bacardi Peach Red, and Jameson's. Friends just took me out to Margaret's Cantina which has damn fine mexican food. I have clothes older than 32. Happy Birthday.

Date: 2008/07/01 21:03:47, Link 69.223.85.168

Author: khan

Something I've wondered about: If (in the USA) one can only use English, which English can one use? English as it is spoken in: Brooklyn, Chicago, rural Georgia, UP Michigan, Down East...? If we insist upon English, must we eliminate local accents?

Date: 2008/07/02 17:28:06, Link 69.223.40.194

Author: khan

Quote (Kristine @ July 02 2008,15:30) Quote (midwifetoad @ July 02 2008,11:58) Anyone who remembers a dream knows that what we see and feel are constructs of the brain. Anyone who has kicked a large stone with bare feet knows that the constructs correlate with something "real." But what if you kick a stone in a dream? ;) (I've dreamed about dreaming, I am not kidding you. It usually portends a nasty headache.) I dream about dreaming, and about talking to people about dreaming about dreaming. I dream about having insomnia. I dream about waking up and realize I'm dreaming about waking up, them dreaming about waking up...

Date: 2008/07/06 20:02:02, Link 69.223.33.253

Author: khan

I get this message when I click on certain parts of Telic Thoughts Thread Quote http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=SC;c=5 403 - Forbidden

Date: 2008/07/07 19:07:46, Link 69.223.68.91

Author: khan

I would like to add as a 57 year old female retired mainframe programmer:  the chauvinistic misogynistic creotards can kiss my grits.

Date: 2008/07/11 18:07:12, Link 69.223.75.166

Author: khan

Quote Oh, and I apologize to everyone here for everything I've said the past two days.  I've been on an ivy An ivy?

Date: 2008/07/11 19:11:52, Link 69.223.75.166

Author: khan

Quote (Ftk @ July 11 2008,18:31) I'd be perfectly content if PZ would just put a visible disclaimer on his blog drawing attention to the fact that his views are his alone and not that of his place of employment.   I mean, let's be honest, PZ does go *out of his way* to try to piss off anyone who believes in a higher power.  He's a bigot.  period. The worst thing about him is that he absolutely feeds the hard core religious right who are looking to point out the antics of the villiage atheist mentality.  PZ = exactly what they are looking for. So will I "go to hell" for dissing a biscuit? I can't imagine what it is like to spend my life living in fear that I might have a thought.

Date: 2008/07/12 19:49:42, Link 69.223.84.1

Author: khan

Quote (Dr.GH @ July 12 2008,20:40) Quote (keiths @ July 12 2008,14:05) The reaction of believers to perceived "blasphemy" or "desecration" has long fascinated me. <snip> Other believers might concede that their God is unharmed by blasphemy, but complain that they are personally offended by having their beliefs mocked.  To them I would point out the following: 1. Some people think your beliefs (whatever they are) are ridiculous whether they say so or not.  Get used to it.  If you interpret silence as tacit agreement, you are mistaken. 2. People have every right to believe in magic crackers, that Rev. Moon is God, that Xenu was our galactic overlord, or that John Frum will return to the islands with lots of cargo.  They don't have the right to compel the rest of us to regard these beliefs as anything but risible, or to force us to mute our disdain. Does that distain allow you to disrupt a religious observance? Does that distain allow you to take church property? Plus, I also wonder about the predictable reaction of believers- is it incitement to mess with their rituals? Let's imagine that there is a child's birthday party in a public park- The family is deeply religious and they have their eyes closed in prayer.  You are more wise than they are and so you dump the birthday cake on the ground. You get arrested.  It is as simple as that.  If you get a good ass kicking resisting arrest, few courts would probably bother prosecuting the family members. Wooosh!

Date: 2008/07/13 17:47:51, Link 69.223.33.0

Author: khan

Quote (Dr.GH @ July 13 2008,17:22) Quote (rhmc @ July 13 2008,14:15) i fail to see how making fun of catholics and their closely held beliefs is any worse (or any better) than making fun of IDiots and their closely held beliefs. perhaps the joke was taken a bit further than necessary but quite honestly, a lot of religious beliefs are held up to ridicule on many threads in this forum. I think it is fine and dandy to ridicule people for believing absurd things. It is rude, and generally unnecessary, but it is certainly First Amendment protected speech. In the case of ID and creationism in general, they are trying to inflict their beliefs on the public, and use legal tricks to do it. That is a violation of the Constitution. If you diss the biscuit The jebus will hits ya

Date: 2008/07/14 19:39:21, Link 69.223.89.93

Author: khan

Quote Most Published Photo Of A Sweater - EVAR - Dr. Dr. D I must confess, I have developed sweater lust.  I want one, I want PZ to have one, I want many people to wear one to a science gathering.

Date: 2008/07/16 19:06:18, Link 69.223.62.106

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ July 16 2008,12:55) Apparently, Melanie herself has shown up at Greg Laden's Blog. ETA her comment, in its entirety:   Quote First off, it is amazing at all the speculation out there. Number one, i will not be leaving my husband due to this mistake. Number two he is not a crazy lunatic, but a very passionate man when it comes to his party and his religion. He's a great person, great father and yes feels absolutely horrible about what has happened to me. As his wife, am i worried about any threats.. no i am not as i know it was just a rage via email. Did he directly threaten anyones life, no he did not. In any case, the tone and text of the email was not appropriate and he did send an email apology to PZ. For the record and i do not owe anyone anything.. i was on vacation until 7/14, i was called on friday evening and informed that some work was due and the deadline was monday morning. I was also apologized to for being asked to work during my vacation of which i take far and few between. I came in during my vacation as a courtesy to my flowers team. I use my own personal pc for work and yes I do work from home as a sales and service manager. I am extremely careful with my applications and have been a valued ( thought i was) employee for 7 years. Once i completed what i needed to do, i logged off ALL applications. My email is password protected, my RSA log in is password protected as well as my VPN and NO ONE has my complex passwords. My husband went on to the drudge report site that he reads and clicked on a link and came across that man pz's notice and responded as he always does when he is upset. Was his text extreme yes it was, would he follow through, never. I want to clear the air and tried to with my company. I was not logged into work when this happened and somehow when i logged off my exchange server email i use i set it as my default (must have clicked on yes as it does ask upon sigh in). So when my husband click on the email address to respond to the newsletter it was coming from flowers email. I am not sure how as i was not connected to VPN but that is neither here nor there and something i will take up with them. My personal email(optonline) has always been my default. No excuses here folks, this is what went down. I have nothing to hide and no reason or desire to note these blogs. If i hadn't been the dedicated employee i was i would have said "heck no, im not working on my vacation" but i am not the type and felt it my duty to make sure my annual reviews were in time for my team members to receive their annual raises. As for 1-800-Flowers, they are a wonderful company and have always been good to me and my family. They do offer a great service and i sure hope you utilitze them or continue to do so if you are a current customer. On that note, you have no way of knowing if this is me or not, but i can assure you it is. Everyone has their opinions but the things that have been posted about my company and myself are herrendous and quite frankly is making me physically ill. Please enough with the harsh comments about me, my husband and my former employer. If true, that is one messed up dude.

Date: 2008/07/17 20:32:29, Link 69.223.78.232

Author: khan

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

Date: 2008/07/21 18:16:37, Link 69.223.76.119

Author: khan

Once, 20 or more years ago, the Monarch butterfly migration came through my street (SW Ohio).  Thousands of them settling into the trees for the night.

Date: 2008/07/31 18:25:24, Link 69.223.64.12

Author: khan

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ July 31 2008,12:38) My neighbor has a lot of bird feeders in his backyard, and it resulted in periodic visits from a small hawk. I think it's a Cooper's.  Yesterday I got to see it grab a Goldfinch off of one of the feeders. I saw a Coopers grab a finch (sparrow?) out of mid air near the bird feeder.

Date: 2008/08/01 17:59:05, Link 69.223.95.8

Author: khan

The favorite prey of Coopers Hawks & Northern Harriers is doves (at least in my front yard). I'll see if I can dig up some photos of feathers.

Date: 2008/08/02 18:30:32, Link 69.223.84.14

Author: khan

A rebuttal to the nature crunchy granola types: it's a jungle out there. Cats killing birds squirrels rabbits chipmunks. Grackles killing finches. Hawks killing finches sparrows doves. Blue Jays stealing worms from robins. And all just in my front yard.

Date: 2008/08/02 18:44:46, Link 69.223.84.14

Author: khan

[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin] Quote I say, "Rage on, PZ".  I'm not one bit sorry if ripping the superstition out of the science class by its tonsils pisses people off. I am an almost 60 year old female atheist, and I am $%^& tired of automatic respect for fundietards and their bronze age misogynistic beliefs.

Date: 2008/08/02 20:08:41, Link 69.223.84.14

Author: khan

[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin] Quote The point, the goal here, is to get and keep the cloaked creationism TARD of the Discovery Institute and Uncommon Descent out of the science classroom, and in the end that will get and keep the cloaked theocracy TARD of the Discovery Institute and Uncommon Descent out of the political arena as a happy and desirable side effect. We need the Elsberrys and the Braytons, but we need Myerses, too. Indeed. I find it affirming to know that there are others out there who validate my beliefs (and lack thereof).

Date: 2008/08/07 17:30:21, Link 69.223.43.59

Author: khan

Quote (Assassinator @ Aug. 07 2008,14:21) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 07 2008,12:51) well i know it is hilarious to consider, but I'm serious.  What's up with that? it's like some kinda gay locker room over there.  not that it isn't here sometimes... dammit Arden you are making us look bad.   i thought about it for about five seconds (all that it deserves, probably) and it occurred to me that perhaps you could blame it on the lack of women participating in science in general, for whatever reasons. or perhaps the fairer sex sees this as the bullshit that it is, and is thus not interested in paying lip servce to an uber-yanged cultural renaissance.   i dunno.  but if you are trying to pick up chicks I suggest UD is the wrong place to be. Is it just me, or is the female part of humanity kind of under-represented on teh intertubez in general? I'm female, but everyone assumes I'm male.

Date: 2008/08/07 17:32:23, Link 69.223.43.59

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 07 2008,14:43) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 07 2008,14:25) Quote why is UD populated by this repressed male angst?  shouldn't a healthy social movement have visible participation from females too?  perhaps they are covering their heads and relegating them to preparing the food.   Don't forget this, too.     Quote Is it just me, or is the female part of humanity kind of under-represented on teh intertubez in general? It's just you: But hey, Telic Thoughts has Joy, right? [cough] Some of the commenters here that you think are men are actually women. Many women got in the habit of representing themselves as men on the internet, in order to keep the pervs away. Or just not saying one way or the other.

Date: 2008/08/07 17:43:47, Link 69.223.43.59

Author: khan

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Aug. 07 2008,18:33) Quote (khan @ Aug. 07 2008,18:30) Quote (Assassinator @ Aug. 07 2008,14:21)   Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 07 2008,12:51) well i know it is hilarious to consider, but I'm serious.  What's up with that? it's like some kinda gay locker room over there.  not that it isn't here sometimes... dammit Arden you are making us look bad.   i thought about it for about five seconds (all that it deserves, probably) and it occurred to me that perhaps you could blame it on the lack of women participating in science in general, for whatever reasons. or perhaps the fairer sex sees this as the bullshit that it is, and is thus not interested in paying lip servce to an uber-yanged cultural renaissance.   i dunno.  but if you are trying to pick up chicks I suggest UD is the wrong place to be. Is it just me, or is the female part of humanity kind of under-represented on teh intertubez in general? I'm female, but everyone assumes I'm male. Why on earth would that be? That must arouse wrath. On the internet my posts/opinions/behaviors come across as male. Once I say I am female, it seems all my opinions have to be reconsidered.

Date: 2008/08/08 18:23:05, Link 69.223.40.92

Author: khan

Quote (fusilier @ Aug. 08 2008,13:35) Carsonjok, Ford just sold Rover and Jaguar to Tata of India - the Indian outfit - so you could say that they are back in The Raj. OTOH, Louis, a friend used to belong to the Detroit MG/Triumph Club and he said that the Lucas Electric logo* looked like a blown fuse for a reason. *"Why do Brits drink warm beer? Because they have Lucas refrigerators." Edited (just because I can) to add:  And what, exactly, do you have against the Taurus?  My '07 drives fine, gets 28 mpg highway, and keeps the windows nice and clear when we get the one-each-week-in-the-winter sleet storm. The reason Britain doesn't export computers is they can't figure out how to make them leak oil. Disclaimer: owned an MG in the '70s.

Date: 2008/08/09 18:27:29, Link 69.223.78.100

Author: khan

Have many more happy ones.

Date: 2008/08/10 19:37:21, Link 69.223.80.200

Author: khan

I have received an email from someone offering to educate me on creationism. I think it tracks from here. Should I report it, post it...? (I don't feel threatened.)

Date: 2008/08/11 16:36:01, Link 69.223.72.153

Author: khan

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 10 2008,22:00) i got one too, a link to a godtube video Creation - A Historical Reality guiguysjohn Group: Probationers Posts: 0 Joined: Aug. 2008 Posted: Aug. 10 2008,18:52 I have put together a short presentation on creation and I am wondering whether you might be interested in reviewing it? http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=582eeb375acf271f9c86 Thank you, John Phillips haven't looked at it yet.  is this what you meant khan? Yes that's the one. How many people were contacted by the creotard?

Date: 2008/08/11 16:42:09, Link 69.223.72.153

Author: khan

Quote (Quack @ Aug. 11 2008,17:37) I hope I can post this here on the BW: I was approached by a lurker here, both with a PM and an email: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:45:35 -0500 (CDT) guiguysjohn@yahoo.com wrote: > Email Generated by Ikonboard > Quack, > > This email has been sent from guiguysjohn via Ikonboard. > > (http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi) > > ------------------------------------------------- > > I have put together a short presentation on creation and >I am wondering whether you might be interested in >reviewing it? > > http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=582eeb375acf271f9c86 > > Thank you, > (name deleted) > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Please note, Ikonboard cannot be held responsible for >the content of this email > > To which I replied: From: ROLF <mc28863@c2i.net> To: guiguysjohn@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:49:04 AM Subject: Re: Creation - A Historical Reality Hi, I am sorry to disappoint you. I have some trouble listening to Youtube since my ears are not quite what they used to be. As a radio operator way back in my army days I was very good at interpreting what was said under difficult conditions, but now the high frequency/treble response is not so good. A transcript would have been fine, but in this case I wouldn't even bother with that for the simple reason that your message is just the same tired old message that we hear from creationists all the time. We have the bible, it is available for anyone to interpret according to his personal preference. When you have faith, nothing else matters. My slogan is: Where faith walks in, reason walks out. One of the Bible thumpers favourite gotcha's is "Were you there?", to which I can only reply: Were you there when the bible was written? The evidence for evolution is good enough, the Bible just is not relevant for science. There are so much creationist stuff out there alredy so you cannot possibly have anything new to say. You might as well put the Gettysburg speech, the declaration of independence, the constitution, Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech or whatever on Youtube, it wouldn't matter. So long, be happy you have a faith and can die with a smile on your lips. And got this follow up: On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (name deletedet) wrote: > If my scientists had put something together which >violated the laws of fossilization I think I would want >to know more. > Here's the script. > Have a nice day. > (name deleted) > > [the transcript deleted] To which I replied: Hi (name), I'll gladly oblige; just scanning the document I found a glaring error: The C-14 method is not used to date anything older than 50.000 years! It is based on the fact that while C-14 is created all the time in our atmosphere by solar radiation, as soon as a tree or anything else dies and stops absorbing anything from the atmosphere, it's C-14 level will begin to drop at a rate determined by the half-life of C-14. This means that after about 50k years, the amount of C-14 left is too small to provide reliable data. And for calibration, a number of methods have been employed that have enabled science to establish the reliability of the method. Whatever you have been told; I am a firm supporter of science and have no reason to think that scientists are not ("not" was inadvertently left out in my reply) really doing their best to ensure that the results of their work is as accurate as possible. In addition, there are always a pack of other scientists at your throat if you miss something or make an error! There are laurels to be had for any scientist who can prove another fellow scientist wrong, mistaken or in error. So please, do not make the common mistake of assuming scientists are stupid, ignorant and just interested in proving whatever they believe is true; They are constantly testing themselves and their theories! I am not a scientist but I have been interested in science ever since I was eight years old and learned about the first 'live' coelecanth found in 1938 - a fish that had been thought to have been extinct for 50 million years. How I wondered how they could know or assume it became extinct 50 million years ago! But it did not for a moment occur to me to doubt that the species really had existed back then. And nobody had told me anything about fossils or the age of the Earth yet - but I found out when I bought my first science book at 13, from money earned in my first job. I am 78 now and think I know what I am talking about. And my brain is as good as new, or even better, stuffed with knowledge I didn't have at birth! I forgot the main point: Radiometric dating is an important tool for dating object back millions or billions of years. Google if you need to know more. You will find answers to ALL the questions you may have, try the talkorigins archive. Creationists are making all kinds of accusations against the t.o. archive, but it is accurate as far as representing mainstream, peer reviewed science! May this day have nothing but joy in store for you! Rolf ................... I hope he will follow my advice and ask for enlightenment on this board! Got the same crap, didn't even look at it.

Date: 2008/08/12 17:30:48, Link 69.223.80.220

Author: khan

Quote (cewagner @ Aug. 12 2008,17:16) Quote Don't you find posting more or less the same thing under different names is not really advancing the cause? Do you think people are going to read such blog posts and be convinced? You say it is so, and it is so? I always post with my real name, except on Pharyngula. PZ doesn't like me so he blocks my name and IP address (with no success, I might add.) As a parent of 4 children and a teacher for 33 years, I don't underestimate the value of repeating the same thing over and over. You just never know who is paying attention. Effin' troll.

Date: 2008/08/13 17:23:54, Link 69.223.63.107

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 13 2008,17:57) Quote (cewagner @ Aug. 12 2008,21:10) It always ends this way. Waldorf: Just when you think this show is terrible something wonderful happens. Statler: What? Waldorf: It ends. Waldorf:"I liked it." Statler: "'You liked World War Two.'"

Date: 2008/08/17 18:27:12, Link 69.223.90.151

Author: khan

Quote One of the things I have noticed over the intervening couple of years is the circle-the-wagon attitude from both camps. Both the reality and fantasy based camps?

Date: 2008/08/21 17:11:57, Link 69.223.81.166

Author: khan

Quote (Assassinator @ Aug. 20 2008,16:14) The only prayer I never really understood, was the prayer before diner. Why thanking an mythological and transcendant being?? The farmer who grew the food deserves the thanks, the supermarket personal who make sure it's available to you, and ofcourse the person earning the money in your house so you can buy the food. Why not thanking the right sources? As for the other moments, I kinda understand why people do it. Some people simply need to support themselfs, humans are emotionally pretty weak creatures. "Dear God, we paid for all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing." -Bart Simpson prayer at dinner

Date: 2008/08/21 20:27:30, Link 69.223.81.166

Author: khan

Quote (Mike in Ontario, NY @ Aug. 21 2008,21:24) Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 21 2008,19:33) I just walked about a mile to the convenience store, for beer and cigarettes, in bare feet because what's the point of soaking my shoes? No shoes, no service Spicoli! "No shoes, no service." "No bras no panties, no problem."

Date: 2008/08/22 17:08:36, Link 69.223.36.129

Author: khan

Quote (charlie wagner @ Aug. 22 2008,15:27) Quote We know full well what ID is and isn't. As a lifelong atheist/agnostic, I resent the implication that ID and religious creationism are the same thing. The notion of intelligent design has been hijacked by those with a religious agenda to promote. Almost all proponents of ID do in fact have a religious agenda and they must be stopped from disseminating their ideology in public schools. The trick is to separate legitimate scientific investigation of intelligent design from religious creationism. As it stands now, most scientists are afraid to even talk about the subject for fear of being misquoted or having their own words used as religious propaganda. This has had a chilling effect on legitimate science that may take decades to repair. Ideology has no place in any public school science classroom and it must be stopped wherever it occurs. But one must also recognize that there have also been zealots on the evolutionist side who want to teach mechanisms of evolution that have no empirical support. The answer is simple and clear. Religious creationism must be eliminated from school curriculums and darwinian evolution must be taught not as fact, but in it's historical context. There is enough factual science, from anatomy to zoology to fill any school's scientific curriculum with non-controversial, factual science. Any teaching of darwinian evolution or creationism or "the controversy" is nothing more than a waste of time that could be better spent on real science. Http://www.charliewagner.com Quote Religious creationism must be eliminated from school curriculums and darwinian evolution must be taught not as fact, but in it's historical context. It is what? What is the difference between 'religious creationism' and 'magic man done it creationism'?

Date: 2008/08/23 16:16:58, Link 69.223.74.152

Author: khan

Quote (charlie wagner @ Aug. 23 2008,13:54) Quote Usually, people asserting "Darwin was wrong!" can't be bothered to substantiate just how. I've challenged some of those folks in the past, and either they decide that some other things are more pressing at the moment, argue that everybody knows that their claim is right, or rattle off a batch of ignorant tosh. Darwin was wrong about the power of natural selection. He failed to provide a shred of empirical evidence, either observational or experimental, that establishes a plausible nexus, actual or hypothetical, between the trivial effects of random mutation and natural selection and the emergence of the highly organized structures, processes and systems found in living organisms. He did address some highly organized structures, such as the eye, but he knew nothing about the nature of the cell. He can be excused for that failure. I believe that it is self-evident that the eye did not evolve by the process of mutation and natural selection. Not only is the rate of so-called "beneficial" mutations ridiculously low, but the eye is an integrated structure that fits in with the nerves, bones and muscles of the body. Even if you can concede the possibility of the eye itself evolving, you would have to account for the concurrent evolution of the bones of the head, the eye socket, etc, the muscles that control the eye, the nerves that carry the images, the blood vessels that supply the eye,  the biochemical reactions that make vision possible and the cerebral cortex necessary to process the images. Evolutionary biologists forget, sometimes, that all of an organism is integrated together, the parts and processes are not separate. For one to "evolve", all must evolve and in a manner that allows the parts to function together. This would require such a fantastically large number of intermediate forms with various combinations of "beneficial" mutations that it puts the whole concept of evolution well beyond the reach of chance. Darwinian evolution by natural selection is merely a special case of the general procedure of problem solving by trial and error. This method would never be successful in achieving the level of organization that we see. It is too inefficient. And there would not be enough room in the universe for all of the rejects. But the really telling fact is that in the century and a half  following his claim, his successors have done no better. The "leap of faith" that he depended on has become longer and longer as deeper layers of organization are uncovered so that it would now take a miracle to explain these structures, processes and systems with the mechanism he proposed. Some are born tard, some achieve tardness, and some have tardness thrust upon 'em

Date: 2008/08/24 17:48:41, Link 69.223.51.151

Author: khan

Happy Birthday, & may more.

Date: 2008/08/26 18:27:24, Link 69.223.86.80

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Aug. 26 2008,03:34) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Aug. 26 2008,04:18) Why can't we all just get a long? Because. Any questions? Louis ETA: A long what?

Date: 2008/09/02 16:13:38, Link 69.223.53.159

Author: khan

Has anyone asked the current Mrs. McCain what she thinks of the choice of Mrs. Palin to be traveling with Mr. McCain?

Date: 2008/09/02 16:42:13, Link 69.223.53.159

Author: khan

Thanks to all. In case anyone's interested: I'm 58, a little old lady, aging hippie, retired computer geek.   http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/09/27/khaaan/

Date: 2008/09/02 19:08:09, Link 69.223.53.159

Author: khan

Quote (lkeithlu @ Sep. 02 2008,19:53) Love your white squirrel! Hope it was a happy day! Got drunk and did stupid things.

Date: 2008/09/03 16:34:44, Link 69.223.35.142

Author: khan

Quote (charlie wagner @ Sep. 03 2008,17:13) Quote "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; I find this most interesting and informative, and I agree completely with Darwin. Darwin doesn't say where these first life forms came from, only that they evolved over time. He was not able to answer two fundamental questions: 1. where did the first forms come from? 2. what is the mechanism of this subsequent evolution? I offer two answers: 1. the first forms came from outside the earth with all the programming necessary to adapt to ambient conditions on earth. 2. What you call evolution is the dynamic unfolding of these pre-existing algorithms. In addition: 1. evolution as we know it is probably over and future events will be variations on already existing patterns, dessimations and extinctions http://www.charliewagner.net/hoyle.htm What the heck is: 'dessimations' ?

Date: 2008/09/03 16:55:05, Link 69.223.35.142

Author: khan

Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 03 2008,17:53) Quote (khan @ Sep. 03 2008,14:34) What the heck is: 'dessimations' ? I assumed it was an avant-garde spelling of "decimations", i.e. mass extinctions.  But then I assumed that sweeping claims were usually accompanied by at least a little bit of evidence, so what do I know? Are creationists forbidden to have spell-checkers?

Date: 2008/09/08 17:15:48, Link 69.223.38.133

Author: khan

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Sep. 07 2008,23:47) where did your white skwirrell come from?  not brevard, NC, huh? ETA happy belated day. Squirrel pic is from my patio.

Date: 2008/09/09 18:36:18, Link 69.223.76.236

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 09 2008,11:34) Quote (khan @ Sep. 08 2008,15:15) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 07 2008,23:47) where did your white skwirrell come from?  not brevard, NC, huh? ETA happy belated day. Squirrel pic is from my patio. Okay, Khan. Your birfday was a week ago. Get your lazy ass back to work.  :angry: I'm retired. I don't have to do shit. :p

Date: 2008/09/10 17:32:11, Link 69.223.93.181

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 09 2008,21:18) I've never seen a white squirrel before. I've got two of them; haven't seen the second one for a few days, she might be gone.

Date: 2008/09/12 19:11:11, Link 69.223.83.200

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 12 2008,20:06) Hmm. My non-linguist but linguophile friend Mike responds: Quote Yeah, "like ta" is  the sort of elision most languages seem prone to -- which is very confusing to non-native speakers. It's also happening with phrase like "I'ma smack you up side the head," those initial three letters replacing three entire words, "I'm going to."  French has many such elisions, too, as official parts of the language (English will probably make some of them de facto, umm, official over time.) Swage I know. It comes from/is this word: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=swage Not very commonly used anymore (except in the South), but a cool word nonetheless. comments welcome. Are you fixin' to do any of the above?

Date: 2008/09/20 21:46:18, Link 69.223.41.184

Author: khan

I'm back. Was I missed? I was without electricity for 6 days.

Date: 2008/09/20 22:48:42, Link 69.223.41.184

Author: khan

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 20 2008,23:36) Quote (khan @ Sep. 20 2008,22:46) I'm back. Was I missed? I was without electricity for 6 days. I live in the Cleveland area. I've had power but many around here haven't. All I got to say is that is one hell of a fucking hurricane that can come aboard from the Gulf of Mexico and still pack that kind of wallop in northern Ohio. Crap yes, I'm ~800 miles from the gulf coast. There were huge trees and branches down on every block; shingles and siding all over the place. I'm near Dayton Ohio.

Date: 2008/09/21 09:12:33, Link 69.223.56.75

Author: khan

Some pictures (all taken within 50 feet of my front door): Go here: http://flickr.com/photos/starchild775/sets/72157607407265892/

Date: 2008/09/21 16:06:43, Link 69.223.56.75

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 21 2008,03:05) Khan, Doc Bill, and Texas Teach were deeply missed. Glad to have you back. Such a charmer. "You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore."

Date: 2008/09/21 19:47:54, Link 69.223.56.75

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Sep. 21 2008,19:35) Quote (khan @ Sep. 21 2008,22:06) Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 21 2008,03:05) Khan, Doc Bill, and Texas Teach were deeply missed. Glad to have you back. Such a charmer. "You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore." I have it on good evidence (from Arden) that this is not the case. It's five dollars maximum. And even that's debatable. Still, Steve *IS* right about one thing: y'all were missed even if you didn't know it. Damn, I AM turning nice.....has someone spiked my drink with prozac and ecstasy? Louis After being retired for several years, I have found myself being nice. Not sure what to make of it.

Date: 2008/09/21 20:46:07, Link 69.223.56.75

Author: khan

Quote I have no idea of the stats or demographics on this, but aren't the majority of American atheists former believers? I'm not saying there is some conversion effort or what have you on anyone's part here, just that people who are now non-believers were in many cases (not all) once believers. Not that that is even important, but I thought I'd get it out the way. I was sort of kind of maybe raised in a religious tradition (Episcopal in a small town); don't know if I ever believed it.   Certainly didn't after age 14 or so.

Date: 2008/09/22 21:53:26, Link 69.223.92.93

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 22 2008,22:33) You might be surprised how many girls are here going under ambiguous pseudonyms. I be one.

Date: 2008/09/23 12:19:21, Link 69.223.88.220

Author: khan

Quote (keiths @ Sep. 23 2008,09:03) Quote (Skullboy @ Sep. 22 2008,10:15) Dodgen definitely suffers from slide rule envy. From what I can gather, he is a bright programmer, but not actually an engineer by training. This sophomoric attempt to show off what he thinks is mathematical depth reminds me of this post from a while back. In it he launches into an elaborate description of binary search algorithms, a matter which is only tangentially related to the issue under discussion. But of course, deliberately confusing levels of abstraction when discussing computer simulations is one of the most-used tools in the ID toolbox. If you can sound really technical while doing it, the sycophants will all go "oooh" and "ahhh." Skullboy, You're being too generous in calling GilDo "bright" and in giving him credit for deliberately mixing levels of abstraction in order to fool the rubes.  He's genuinely confused about levels of abstraction.  See these two threads for evidence: [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/a-realistic-computational-simulation-of-random-mutation-filtered-by-natural-selection-in-b iology]A Realistic Computational Simulation of Random Mutation Filtered by Natural Selection in Biology[/URL] Gil Has Never Grasped the Nature of a Simulation Model That is down right scary.

Date: 2008/09/24 15:41:00, Link 69.223.54.50

Author: khan

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 24 2008,15:43) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 24 2008,07:07) What is this a picture of? A periodic table! A log table?

Date: 2008/09/29 09:43:10, Link 69.223.92.14

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2008,00:25) I didn't say that I like her, but you've got to feel some sympathy for a person who gets turned into a national joke by a process they don't really understand. You can find sympathy in the dictionary: between suicide and syphilis.

Date: 2008/09/29 11:51:16, Link 69.223.92.14

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 29 2008,11:04) Quote (khan @ Sep. 29 2008,07:43) Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2008,00:25) I didn't say that I like her, but you've got to feel some sympathy for a person who gets turned into a national joke by a process they don't really understand. You can find sympathy in the dictionary: between suicide and syphilis. Funny thing -- my uncle had the same saying, but he said sympathy was between shit and syphilis. I never could figure out what that saying was supposed to mean as a kid. Somewhere around my 30s I figured it out. My mother said it, probably wanted to be a bit more delicate.

Date: 2008/09/29 16:39:15, Link 69.223.92.14

Author: khan

Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2008,17:37) Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 29 2008,13:16) Working Replica of Noah's Ark Opens In Schagen, Netherlands If it's "working", why is no-one shovelling shit over the side? "Have you looked in the bottom of that Ark?" -Bill Cosby -AKA Noah

Date: 2008/10/01 17:08:47, Link 69.223.83.41

Author: khan

Quote (Assassinator @ Oct. 01 2008,18:00) A while ago Erasmus sad that voting was similair to praying. 5 Minutes ago I came across this:     Quote Where ONE vote has made the difference: In 1776, English was chosen over German as the language for America by ONE vote. In 1800, After an Electoral College tie, the House of Representatives voted Thomas Jefferson the 3rd President of the United States by ONE vote. In 1868, President Andrew Johnson was saved from impeachment by ONE vote. In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes became President of the United States over Samuel Tilden by ONE vote. In 1923, Hitler won the leadership of the German Nazi Party by ONE vote. In 1948, Lyndon B. Johnson, the 36th President, became a U.S. Senator by ONE vote. California, Idaho, Oregon, Texas and Washington all became states by ONE vote. from http://www.napas.org/issues/voting/pava/TNInserts.pdf Interesting. Maybe, maybe not: http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/onevote.asp

Date: 2008/10/02 16:57:49, Link 69.223.33.196

Author: khan

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Oct. 02 2008,17:53) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 02 2008,12:51) When I was a young lad I wanted to grow up and be a comedian, I used to tell people that and they laughed at me. Then I became a comedian. Well they're not laughing now are they? Louis I'd say that is really On The Spot. No? Perhaps you should check your prostrate. Might want to check a dictionary.

Date: 2008/10/03 18:33:32, Link 69.223.44.83

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 03 2008,19:29) Reports suggest that McCain is shifting his advertising to 100% negative ads against Obama. We'll see if the fear-mongering and division tactics of Rove can pull it off. My guess is no. Seems that way here in Ohio. McCain lies like a fundie.

Date: 2008/10/06 18:41:30, Link 69.223.56.118

Author: khan

Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 06 2008,19:03) Sounds great, blipe.  Just remember this...I no longer care whether you are on topic, off topic or posting crap. The point is that I want you to *stop* posting altogether.  I *refuse* to let any more of your posts go through.  Period.  Your threats were the *last* straw.  This crap has gone on too long.   Granted, since you're being monitored here, you'll try to stay on topic though I believe you may still find it hard to post in line with my moderation policy.  Irregardless, I'm only placing your comments here to show what an ass you are for posting constantly at my blog when you've been asked to stay off of it. REPEAT:  None of your comments will be going through to my blog ever again.  Got that?  So, you can either stop commenting, or I'll just keep harping at you to stop your freaky obsession with me.  If that doesn't work, I'll have to look into another form of allowing comments through.  It's unfortunate that one obsessed clown can fuck things up so badly. Do you mean 'regardless' or 'irrespective'?

Date: 2008/10/07 17:41:37, Link 69.223.56.180

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,13:51) Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 27 2008,02:34) "BOINC"? Not the best choice of name, given it's similarity to "boink". Henry But surely you must know from "Calvin and Hobbes" that scientific progress goes "boink"? Or in this case "boinc". Do your part people! (The docking and protein folding studies are of particular interest, as is the quantum chemistry one. Fascinating stuff). Louis I've got the climate modeling one running on my desktop.

Date: 2008/10/07 17:47:42, Link 69.223.56.180

Author: khan

Quote (Nerull @ Oct. 07 2008,14:09) Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 07 2008,12:31) http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archive....060.php   Quote Yesterday, John McCain delivered an unhinged anti-Obama diatribe in New Mexico, and when he posed a rhetorical question -- "Who is the real Barack Obama?" -- someone shouted, "A terrorist!" McCain paused momentarily, but did not comment on the remark. Also yesterday, Sarah Palin repeated one of her unusually stupid attacks, rehashing the nonsense that Obama "pals around" with terrorists. One man in the audience, responding to Palin's smear, shouted, "Kill him!" Palin also did not comment on the remark. At the same Florida event, Republicans shouted abuse at journalists, hurling obscenities. The Washington Post reported, "One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, 'Sit down, boy.'" And just to top things off, last night, the Republican Party of Pennsylvania announced its belief that Obama is "a terrorist's best friend." Today's GOP--appealing to the better angels of our nature. They're creating a monster. Their only remaining option is to bring out the white hoods and burning crosses. The question is, will it get out of control? The mob never tends to give much heed to its authorities once set off. I have this image of RNC meetings chanting "N-word".

Date: 2008/10/07 18:01:49, Link 69.223.56.180

Author: khan

[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD] Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,18:57) Quote (khan @ Oct. 07 2008,23:41) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,13:51)   Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 27 2008,02:34) "BOINC"? Not the best choice of name, given it's similarity to "boink". Henry But surely you must know from "Calvin and Hobbes" that scientific progress goes "boink"? Or in this case "boinc". Do your part people! (The docking and protein folding studies are of particular interest, as is the quantum chemistry one. Fascinating stuff). Louis I've got the climate modeling one running on my desktop. I love you in a slightly moist and inappropriate manner. Does that make me a bad person? Louis I love you in a chaste and distant manner.

Date: 2008/10/07 18:19:29, Link 69.223.56.180

Author: khan

[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD] Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,19:05) Quote (khan @ Oct. 08 2008,00:01) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,18:57)   Quote (khan @ Oct. 07 2008,23:41)   Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,13:51)     Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 27 2008,02:34) "BOINC"? Not the best choice of name, given it's similarity to "boink". Henry But surely you must know from "Calvin and Hobbes" that scientific progress goes "boink"? Or in this case "boinc". Do your part people! (The docking and protein folding studies are of particular interest, as is the quantum chemistry one. Fascinating stuff). Louis I've got the climate modeling one running on my desktop. I love you in a slightly moist and inappropriate manner. Does that make me a bad person? Louis I love you in a chaste and distant manner. You're no fun! There I was trying to bridge the enormous damp gulf between our nations, and you shoot me down in a manner entirely opposite to that of Arden's mother. Louis As long as you're ~1000 miles away, it's all an intellectual enterprise.

Date: 2008/10/08 14:46:41, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Just want to mention that McSame attack ads here in Ohio are quote-mining.

Date: 2008/10/08 18:50:06, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 08 2008,19:38) FWIW, I think it's bad that the GOP is in such sorry shape. I don't want the choice to be between 'tolerable' and 'sucks out loud'. What kind of choice is that? I want intelligent conservatives (George Will, Steve Bainbridge, Rod Dreher, Reihan, Jon Rauch, etc) to take back the party they began to lose around 1964. I want to have to choose between two intelligent, reality based groups of people. I don't want to have to automatically pick the Dems. But as long as the Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Karl Rove, "Obama is a terrorist/traitor/Muslim/Elitist/etc" "Palin is qualified", global warming denying, evolution denying, Grover Norquist Complete Total F*&%ing Moron crowd runs the GOP, I have no choice. I want a choice. But I suppose it's inevitable that at any given time, at least one party will be playing to the anti-intellectual strain of the American psyche. In some ways, I still consider myself a 'conservative'; but my definition of that word has been dragged out back and stomped flat. I could debate with and consider intelligent conservatives even if I didn't agree with them; but you're right about the current 'leaders'.

Date: 2008/10/08 20:47:40, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 08 2008,20:44) I used to consider myself a conservative, back when I equated conservativism with Buckley, Will, Goldwater, Rauch, GHWB, Brent Scowcroft, etc. I mean I didn't wholly agree with them, but they were smart people with some smart ideas. This was around the late 80's, early 90's. I'm not going to write a big biographical piece about my political evolution, but let's just say my distance from conservatism grew as that strain of conservatism waned and the Hannity/Limbaugh/Glenn Beck/Tom Delay wing waxed. (Just to be clear, that party didn't transform in the 80's/90's, my perception of the party transformed in that period. The transformation of the GOP started around 1964, as Nixon was touring the southern bigots and know-nothings, and telling aides, 'this is the future of the Republican party'.) As someone of the female grouping, the 'conservatives' lost me when they decided that my body was subject to their control.   Creepy Christian Crotch Police

Date: 2008/10/08 21:05:45, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

"We're into personal responsibility." "We're into getting the government off of people's backs." "We're into forcing you to give birth to the child of your rapist." "And said forced birth is only an inconvenience." Any further thoughts are unprintable.

Date: 2008/10/08 21:28:20, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Just to say that as a female person, I apologize up front for the FTKs of this world.

Date: 2008/10/08 21:35:40, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 08 2008,21:58) I was hanging in there when I thought their anti-abortion stuff was based on simply thinking the baby was a unique individual. Even though liberals were saying cons just want to control females I wasn't buying it just from the abortion thing. Then I heard about conservative efforts to ban birth control, and I had one of these moments Welcome to the reality of the female contingent.

Date: 2008/10/08 21:41:28, Link 69.223.66.245

Author: khan

Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 08 2008,22:37) BTW, this isn’t the first time that your stalking tendencies has raised it's ugly head.  You were determined to get to Dave at his own home.         Quote By the way, I’m not buying the excuse about email being flooded with spam if someone finds out your name. My name and email address is the most loosely held secret around here and except for one moron/stalker named Blipey (Eric Pratt) who decided discretion was the better part of valor when I threatened to sic my dogs on him if he showed his face at my door, I’ve never had any problems because of it. When I report your behavior (to several authorities), I will certainly mention the incident of your obsession with Dave, as well as your insistance that he meet with you personally. Honest to God, you give me the creeps, and I want you to leave me the fuck alone.  I SWEAR TO GOD, I AM NOT KIDDING AROUND BLIPEY. FTK, you really need to work on your grammar. You also need to work on your paranoia.

Date: 2008/10/09 18:34:59, Link 69.223.44.94

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 09 2008,18:46) I think Huckabee would be a much better president than Palin. He: *was governor for 11 years, not six months or whatever Palin was. *His spouse didn't belong to a radical separatist group for years *Has written several books *Isn't under an ongoing ethics investigation *Isn't trying to cover up the results of an ethics investigation *Is capable of giving a press conference *Was named one of Time's "Five Best Governors" *Never (to my knowledge) called Obama a terrorist sympathizer I saw Huckabee (The Daily Show?) and he actually made some sense.  He was firmly 'pro-life', but said that if you're going to require women to bear children you have an obligation to provide financial/social/medical assistance.

Date: 2008/10/11 14:16:39, Link 69.223.68.78

Author: khan

Quote (dhogaza @ Oct. 11 2008,14:28) Quote And in other news - I got to give McCain at least a little credit. Not really.  His denunciation of the extreme rhetoric didn't come until *after* some prominent Republican ex-McCain supporters went public with their disgust at his campaign's pandering to the worst of the base.  One went so far as to suggest that McCain was, essentially, endangering Obama's personal safety. In Ohio, the McCain campaign is running ads saying Obama associated with "Terrorist Ayers" "then lied about it". That's not 'exactly' calling Obama a terrorist, but it's damn close.

Date: 2008/10/11 18:44:47, Link 69.223.68.78

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 11 2008,19:08) Quote (Alan Fox @ Oct. 11 2008,23:34) Quote Hiding the swear word is WORSE than actually swearing. Not only are you swearing (which some, not I, consider to be an issue), a linguistic choice you apparently think could be deemed offensive, but you are trying to disguise the fact (poorly) which, even if the word doesn't offend, is guaranteed to offend by patronising the reader. Swearing is supposed to be offensive. Also it enables one to one to be almost incoherently speechless with rage and still say something. Which is why I do not understand why "fuck" et alis need to appear in print at all, except as dialogue. You and I are not in complete disagreement. The necessity of the use of swearwords in written communication is debatable I admit. These fora are written, informal conversations as often as not, and hence conversational language and phraseology is hardly an extreme divergence from appropriate well written prose. However, if one is going to "write as one talks" and include swear words, then fucking well include them. Bowdlerisation fools no one. My point was use them properly or don't use them at all. These halfway house censored versions hide none of the swearing/offence element and thus fail at the one task they could possibly be construed to do. Where we depart is that swearing is supposed (i.e. intended) to be offensive. Emphasis, parody etc are other valid uses of swearing, and with more recent usages their offensiveness is diminished. Take for example the French Connection UK adverts/brand which is abbreviated to FCUK. It's eminently clear what such a rearrangement is meant to achieve, the original shock value was a productive marketing tool. However, it has now lost a great deal of that power to shock, becoming almost commonplace, and hence less effective. I guess I don't think it's as one dimensional as mere offence. Louis I post on various places around the 'net. Swearing is allowed on some and not allowed on some others, so I tend not to swear in general so as not to confuse the two. (Somewhat similar in 'real life').

Date: 2008/10/13 13:33:33, Link 69.223.83.132

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 13 2008,13:58) Two competing hypotheses: 1 Barack is running for president without being qualified. The birth announcement in the paper 40 some years ago is bogus, his birth certificate is forged, and these facts are being covered up by election officials, Democratic Party officials, Hawaii hospital employees and state government workers, the national media, and FactCheck.org. Furthermore, the GOP has shocking evidence of this, and is keeping quiet despite the fact that it looks like they face an epic loss in 3 weeks. 2 Barack's birth certificate and birth announcement are legit. How stupid do you have to be to select hypothesis #1? In what units is stupid measured?

Date: 2008/10/17 17:45:00, Link 69.223.77.59

Author: khan

Quote (didymos @ Oct. 17 2008,01:30) Quote (dvunkannon @ Oct. 16 2008,18:49) Wow, 7 out of 10 responses to Scooter's post on Joe the Plumber are from... Scooter! By Nov 4, Scooter will be the only one left on UD, and he won't even notice. Here's a good non-DaveTard one:   Quote bb 10/16/2008 10:19 pm DaveScot, People in my neighborhood avoid McCain signs and bumper stickers because they don’t want their home or car vandalized. That says something about liberal voters doesn’t it? No, but it does suggest that people in your neighborhood are paranoiac morons. I would like to add that in my blue-collar neighborhood in SW Ohio, there are Obama and McCain signs (sometimes on adjoining lots) and they have both been there for at least several weeks.

Date: 2008/10/19 16:56:47, Link 69.223.70.242

Author: khan

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 19 2008,16:41) The "negrophilia" thing on WorldNetDaily... having grown up in the South, that's just a bigot's fancified way to say "n*****-lover". It doesn't make it any less hateful. I thought there was a familiar ring to that phrase.

Date: 2008/10/20 15:36:06, Link 69.223.86.146

Author: khan

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 20 2008,16:19) Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Oct. 20 2008,13:38) Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 20 2008,13:58)   Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Oct. 20 2008,08:21) and the top link goes to this wacky site about neo-darwinism, Gaia and stuff. Maybe I should take them away... I already had to remove a creationist model of the hydrogen atom from there :p Why would a creationist model a hydrogen atom differently than anybody else? Because current physics is evil and materialistic. Sound familiar? Well, of course it is. After all, physics makes heavier use of "random chance" than biological evolution does. :p Though for some reason, it doesn't seem to collect the same level of attention that "random chance" in biology does. Henry The phrase "random chance" would seem to suggest that there is a thing called "non-random chance". How would one differentiate between them?

Date: 2008/10/21 16:38:19, Link 69.223.76.68

Author: khan

Quote (sparc @ Oct. 21 2008,12:33) WMAD Quote And for a limited time when you order this bundle we will include free copies of the three of the best selling Intelligent Design documentaries: Unlocking the Mystery of Life, Privileged Planet, and The Case for Creator. Normally this bundle would retail for $125 $ 125? At Amazon you will get the collection for $ 61.96. If you choose to get the NEW Amazon.com Rewards Visa® Card you will even get the "SUPER BUNDLE" for only $31.96. Is there any conceivable reason why I would desire to possess such?

Date: 2008/10/21 17:04:13, Link 69.223.76.68

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 20 2008,22:42) Tard of all kinds fascinates and/or dumbfounds me. I'm back in BFE florida temporarily, and I have some relatives here, you know the kind, the kind who thinks that when you're looking for informed, educated scientific opinion, Ken Ham and Kent Hovind are probably slightly more reliable than, say, a consensus of the last 178 consecutive people who won the Nobel Prize. And they're suspicious of any fancy book larnin. And I'm talking to this one guy last thursday who stopped by to talk to me about his job search. He hasn't worked in a while. He has very few skills. Well he got lucky and found a job that pays $15/hr, and interviewed last week. Interviewer said basically he could have the job because his references spoke so highly of him. He thought it was a job on the edge of the town we both live near, which is 7 miles away. Turns out the job is mostly here, but occasionally at a satellite office 25 miles away. Now this guy isn't qualified to do much of anything. And this is BFE Florida. I mean, middle of nowhere. There are more trailers in this town than houses. Not making fun of trailers, I grew up in one, I'm saying this area is charitably described as 'low income'. You want an el Camino? I can get you five. Right now. I could probably get them to throw in the Astroturf for the bed for free. Anyway. So the guy scores a job for double minimum wage but half the time he'd have to drive 25 miles to go to work instead of 7, twice a week. And he flat out turns it down. Tells the interviewer no way, no how. The interviewer tells him the days he goes to the other town he'll get an extra $10. No, he says, no way, no how. And he tells me this, and I almost spit out my cigarette. And over the next 15 minutes I tried, with at least 3 different arguments, to convince him to take the job rather than work at, say, Subway for $7/hr. And I can't make this guy understand, for the life of me. There's nothing I can do. It's hopeless. He refuses to even think about the question. He's got this model in his head, "7 miles = nothing. 25 miles = possible catastrophe of biblical proportions" and there's nothing i can do to change it. I tried everything. me: "You don't mind driving 7 miles to town x right" him: "sure. town x is nothing." me: "town y is just like 3 trips to town x" him: "no its not. You don't know what could happen." me: "for $15/hr and an extra $10 on top, you'll make way more than in town x." him. "No you won't. Because you don't know what will happen. The car could throw a rod. That would cost like $1000 dollars." me: "You could throw a rod going to town x" him: "I've driven to town x a thousand times never threw a rod." me: "You could drive to town y and never throw a rod." him: "You can't promise that. Ain't nobody can promise that." me: "There are ways to estimate the cost. The state pays like 50 cents a mile. That's whether you go to town x or town y. It's an average cost of expenses." him: "Average don't mean anything. You could get a flat and no 'average' tells you you're going to get a flat. And you'd be S.O.L." me: "no, of course, no average tells you anything particular, but it tells you about how much it'll cost. If they never meant anything insurance companies could never operate." him: "I ain't no insurance company and you ain't neither." me: "that's not the point. The point is you can estimate the cost and by any reasonable estimate you're better off at $15/hr in town y." him: "Can your 'estimate' tell me if me car is going to break down tomorrow?" me: "of course not." (rubs forehead) him: "that proves my point. You don't know and I don't either." me: "oh goddammit." him: "you can't tell me driving to town y for $10 I'd make money." me: "I never said you'd make money if your job was just driving to town y and back for $10." him: "yes you did." me: "where's my vodka?" him: "can't make no money if you don't know how much it'll cost you." me: "but you do have an idea how much it'll cost you." him: "Nope. No idea." me: "yes, idea. Because if I offered you a million dollars to drive to town y you'd take it. Because you know, on some level, that it wouldn't cost you a million dollars to drive to town y, because it's twenty five F&$#ing miles away. Because you know some vague, approximate, rough idea what it would cost, and you just refuse to deal with that any more specifically. You'd rather put it out of your head and not consider it." him: "oh yeah, well, that's stupid because nobody would pay you a million dollars to drive to town y." me: "ugggggghhhhhhhh...." And of course it doesn't end there. Because I'm obsessed with tard. He leaves and I have like 4 shots and I can't stop thinking about it. I'm not even measuring at this point, it's just 4 fingers of vodka and the rest is Mountain Dew. What would have worked? How can I make him understand? And my girlfriend shows up like 3 hrs later and gets pissed off that I can't stop thinking about it. She's a wonderful girl and we met in Gifted maybe 16 years ago and obviously she gets it, but she's not obsessed with tard. So she can totally forget about tardacular things and I've only gotten maybe 50% better since then. About an hour later the guy's wife shows up and starts complaining to me that I called her husband an idiot. Which I never did. He just got the impression that I thought he was an idiot because I was so desperate to figure out a basic argument which would work. Which, let's face it, is true, but I never said as much. And I try to explain to her how the numbers work out but now she's refusing to get it because even though she's smarter and can easily get it, that would require contradicting him, and he's the man of the household, so now she's pretending to be as dumb as he is for social reasons. And now I drink several more shots of vodka and smoking Camels like they're about to be banned, and she leaves, and now my girlfriend's pissed because Camels are stinky and the conversation reduces to me: "I don't get it." (puff puff puff) her: "I know." me: "I don't f*$%ing get it." (puff puff puff) her: "I know." me: "I mean....how...I mean...how....Look...I mean." (puff puff puff) her: "I. Know." me: (puff puff puff) Coda: that was thursday or friday and she was annoyed at me but then we went on to have a great Saturday in Gainesville watching a Black Box production of Cloud 9, which was mediocre, because it was supposed to be 'subversive' about gender roles, and it was, but 'subversive' in a way about as subtle and clever as being hit in the head with a 2x4, and we walked around the lake Sunday, which was nice, and had hungover breakfasts at Bob Evans, except for the gooey part of the whites which is a constant problem if you go out and get sunny-side-up eggs, and lots of extracurricular activities, and it was in the end a great weekend, but still a lesson to be learned. If you have a tard problem, get help. It's a terrible addiction, and it will cause problems in relationships. Don't think you can figure out the tard. You can't. Tard is eternal. There is nothing you can do about it. All you can do, is make your peace with it. Don't make the mistakes I made. Find a way to accept it and take pity on us poor junkies, freebasing tard at UD and promising to quit tomorrow. Which I will. Just one more hit.... I too am fascinated with tard; even the borderline type. It's a large part of why am divorced and live alone. When someone commits tard, I am curious and ask about the thought process that led to that particular incident of tard. Looking back, I guess I'm lucky I was only yelled at.

Date: 2008/10/21 18:30:44, Link 69.223.76.68

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 21 2008,19:28) Quote 10 October 2008 The Messiah is Absolutely Speaking DaveScot The only people I've heard refer to Obama as some kind of religious object of worship are Davescot, Louis Farrakhan, and Dave Heddle. Who better to know?

Date: 2008/10/24 17:17:24, Link 69.223.81.164

Author: khan

Quote (George @ Oct. 24 2008,08:35) I posted off my absentee ballot yesterday.  You might like to know that I voted for truth, freedom and the American way. YES on the county liquor referendum. I voted early today; the workers were all knowledgeable and patient.

Date: 2008/10/24 17:19:33, Link 69.223.81.164

Author: khan

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 24 2008,09:04) Remember back to when the Reagan administration had to explain the information coming out that they were having some dealings with Iran and they said it was because of their deep concern for the few incidental American citizens Iran had in custody? I recall thinking that was a puzzler, since Reagan seemed to have no regard for the welfare of individual Americans anywhere else, and certainly not so much regard as to go back on some principle as clearly stated as "no negotiations with terrorists". Then the news broke that the stuff going on with Iran enabled the Reagan administration to funnel off-the-books money to the Contras in Nicaragua. Being able to finance loads of mercenaries killing people at will in South America sounded so much more like Reagan than the weak-willed act that had been their previous cover story that I had an "Aha!" moment right then. But since I have higher regard for what "truth, freedom, and the American way" should mean, I've never made any such association with the admitted-lying, anti-civil-liberties, trickle-down-elitism of the Reagan administration and its figurehead. Misogynistic lying bastards.

Date: 2008/10/24 17:21:32, Link 69.223.81.164

Author: khan

Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 24 2008,13:24) Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 24 2008,10:26)       Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 24 2008,08:17) Gosh Wes, lighten up! Every indication is the civil liberties will do just fine under Obama. (*vurp*) And have some sympathy. I am  a man who has just looked into the abyss, and the abyss looked back, laughing. My World, Turned Upside Down Edit: typo Your world may get even more topsy-turvy, David.  According to this article in the WaPo (yeah, I know, biased liberal media source), NASCAR sponsorship (80% of the income for most NASCAR teams) may dry up because of the bad economy. You might be reduced to watching go-cart races at your local county fair... I'm counting on Obama to fix that. One part of his $900B spending increase is a little known plan to Nationalize NASCAR and place in under the control of a new Ministry of Sports, Well Being, Clean Nappies, and Haberdasheries. No more sponsorship woes. The People have a right to NASCAR. Of course, speeds will be limited to 55 mph for the good of the people. And only one race a year. And everyone is a winner. And all the fuel must be derived from corn and raw sewage. And there will be a 200% tax "revenue enhancer" on all corn dogs. And all coffee must be sold at a temperature between the federally approved guidelines of 96.71 and 98.34 degrees Celsius. And for each regular pit stall, there must be a pit stall with one of those handicapped logos. And if any of the reporters say something negative about a driver, like "he's just not going into the turn hard enough" the driver must, under the Fairness Doctrine, be given equal air time to rebut the charges. And the teams' radio communications will be subject to FISA wiretaps. And... You're beginning to blither.

Date: 2008/10/24 17:32:58, Link 69.223.81.164

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 24 2008,06:47) Quote (Patrick Caldon @ Oct. 23 2008,21:42) http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....in-dvds   Quote And there are now 260 reviews. More of the reviews I am seeing are not just Darwin cultists venting auto-hate. They include non-cultists engaging with the subject. Can we have black robes and ghouly altars and stuff?  And sacrificial virgins maybe? 1) We can think of much better things to do with virgins than sacrifice them. 2) auto-hate is like air brakes. You Have to vent them every few minutes. Duh. Sheesh! Why would anyone want a virgin?  It takes to much time to instruct one.

Date: 2008/10/24 17:44:00, Link 69.223.81.164

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 23 2008,22:04) Somebody here made a crack about gifted and such and I certainly wouldn't brag that I was in gifted when i was a kid. So I called home tonight and demanded that they tell me what my IQ was when I was tested in 2nd grade. They wouldn't tell me back then. An 8 year old doesn't need to know, they said, and maybe they were right. Probably they were right. Apparently, back then, you had to have an IQ above 125 to get into gifted and mine was 130. Something changed by the time I got into Mensa with an IQ of 145 or so. IQs aren't static, I think, as there were a few points where I got distinctly smarter by learning basic errors to avoid. The older I get the less I believe in a general IQ, as I can point to numerous really really smart people who act really really stupid on some other matter. And 3 months ago seeing the Errol Morris tape on Chris Langdon certainly goes in that direction. And there are other examples like Kurt Godel. I think there's some kind of correlation between IQ and really abstract problem solving, but it's not nearly the same as making good decisions w/r/t life. That's one reason I dropped out of Mensa a few years after I joined. There's something about basic life competency that IQ doesn't capture. Based on various written tests, my IQ is somewhere just below 4 sigma (at least up to the GREs at age 25); but spatially and emotionally I'm way down there. I've come to think it's all a huge casserole of genetic and fetal and upbringing and social and education (luck of the draw for the most part).

Date: 2008/10/24 20:15:17, Link 70.227.54.245

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 24 2008,21:08) Quote Five thirty eight now estimates McCain's chances to win at less than 4%, and calculates about a 50-50 chance of an Obama landslide of 375 or more. The five most likely scenarios are now all between 375 and 380 electoral votes for B.O. http://www.othercrap.com/ btw how do you even spend $150,000 on clothes? Ten years ago I had a gf who would go to Gainesville and buy like $300 Ferragamos, but $150,000 would be 500 pairs of them! WTF My house and and car and IRAs are not worth $150,000.

Date: 2008/10/25 15:07:22, Link 69.223.45.105

Author: khan

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 25 2008,16:01) Somebody explain what "empirical research" means to Daniel. Should I practice first by explaining it to the cat?

Date: 2008/10/25 18:24:11, Link 69.223.45.105

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 25 2008,19:17) jerry doesn't get out much.   Quote Behe's Edge of Evolution says that certain things are beyond the ability of natural processes to produce. A finding from the comparison of genomes will in the near future either continue to support or counter Behe's claims. So far no one has countered Behe's claims or else we would have never hear the end of it... I was going to comment on that. Life in the bubble must be wonderful.

Date: 2008/10/26 18:36:43, Link 69.223.42.91

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2008,19:26) (via yglesias) Quote “Neville Chamberlain also had a fine temperament and a good intellect.” --Bill Kristol, smearing Obama If I had a billion dollars, well, I wouldn't buy the NYT because newspapers are going down the tubes. But if I had a billion dollars and had already bought everything else I could possibly want, I would buy the NYT just to fire first Kristol, then the moron who hired him, then, presuming one exists, the moron who hired that moron. A moron daisy chain indeed.

Date: 2008/10/26 18:44:28, Link 69.223.42.91

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2008,19:41) "See, under a big government, more tax agenda, what you thought was yours would really start belonging to somebody else, to everybody else," Palin said. "If you thought your income, your property, your inventory, your investments were, were yours, they would really collectively belong to everybody." Sarah Palin, yesterday. Can we pleeeeeeaaaasssseeee get done with the next 9 days already? I voted Friday.

Date: 2008/10/27 18:14:06, Link 69.223.75.171

Author: khan

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 27 2008,19:07) Quote * Scary beyond words: "Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday. In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.... Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community." http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archive....397.php As long as they aren't Muslim terrorists.

Date: 2008/10/27 20:09:21, Link 69.223.63.250

Author: khan

Quote (Crabby Appleton @ Oct. 27 2008,20:51) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 27 2008,19:21)   Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 24 2008,19:52) I was making curry chicken tonight and it was going fine until i absolutely ruined it in the end. First I sauteed some diced chicken breast, onion, and garlic. Then I added about 2 tsp curry powder, a little cumin, salt, cayenne powder, and pepper. and 2 cups water, and was reducing that. Then I decide it's too watery Just cook it half an hour with the lid off. Fixes that right up. Also, in my experience, with curries dark meat like chicken thighs works better, tho I guess that's pretty subjective. I agree with the bold part, but remove the meat while you're doing it so it isn't overcooked. I'm a big fan of dark meat too which is why I cook a lot of duck. The big treat with cooking duck is the rendered fat. Cottage Fried Potatoes cooked in <b>duck fat</b> ROCKS! Scrambled eggs with tomato, mild pepper, garlic, chives and diced smoked pork chops, ooh I could go on. Goose fat is also great, especially for potatoes.

Date: 2008/10/28 18:15:09, Link 69.223.37.218

Author: khan

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Oct. 28 2008,19:09) <mutters>god dammit there is a soul in here somewhere... bowling ball, nope.  golf clubs, nope.  lego collection, nope.  neuron hardware, nope.  i'll keep looking. "There's got to be a pony here."

Date: 2008/10/28 19:20:03, Link 69.223.37.218

Author: khan

Happy birthday Texas Teach! 34? I have clothes that old.

Date: 2008/10/29 17:38:42, Link 69.223.85.164

Author: khan

Quote (drew91 @ Oct. 29 2008,09:57) Happy 34th.  I'll be there myself in a little over a month. We're only as old as we feel...or something like that. :) You're only as old as the one you feel.

Date: 2008/10/29 17:58:55, Link 69.223.85.164

Author: khan

Quote Now these are Berg's proposed laws that I cherry picked from the "conclusion" chapter of his book.  They were put forth in 1922 and may need updating. No shit?

Date: 2008/10/29 18:11:07, Link 69.223.85.164

Author: khan

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 29 2008,13:35) Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 29 2008,09:21) can you even get okra over there in the old country? Okra (bhindi) is a big deal in Indian cooking. There's a little Pakistani place here that does a spicy okra dish that will rock your world. Wikipedia says it's originally from Ethiopia. Is okra really food, or is it all some sort of joke?

Date: 2008/10/30 18:15:44, Link 69.223.85.164

Author: khan

Last month (never shop before breakfast) I bought a jar of ghee. What shall I do with it?

Date: 2008/10/30 18:42:20, Link 69.223.85.164

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 30 2008,19:20) Quote (khan @ Oct. 31 2008,00:15) Last month (never shop before breakfast) I bought a jar of ghee. What shall I do with it? Ghee is merely clarified butter so I shall provide you with 3 options: 1) Fry some onions in it and use them to make a delicious curry or accompaniment to a steak etc. 2) Use it to make a very lovely pudding, I suggest a good old fashion bread and butter pudding with a slight twist: use brioche for the bread, chocolate chips and soak the brioche in Grand Marnier. 3) Umm, well it is quite slippery, so you could use it for "marital" purposes*. Louis *Put it on the door knob so that the kids can't get into the room. Why, what did you think I meant? All that aside, how is ghee for deep frying?

Date: 2008/11/02 12:17:46, Link 69.223.71.243

Author: khan

So Welsey, what do use to clean the blade?

Date: 2008/11/02 18:39:51, Link 69.223.71.243

Author: khan

Last Friday I acquired a custom cut turkey from a local farmer. I like turkey, but don't want to deal with ~16 # all at once. A ~17# turkey was cut into quarters. Roasted a quarter yesterday.

Date: 2008/11/03 14:37:03, Link 69.223.71.244

Author: khan

Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 03 2008,15:29) Quote and the soul is the "breath of God" recieved at conception Whenever somebody makes that claim I have this temptation to ask what they think about a pair of identical twins, since the claim implies that a pair of twins would share one soul. Henry And not to mention chimeras.

Date: 2008/11/04 11:48:37, Link 69.223.51.97

Author: khan

I voted on 24 October (Ohio).  I don't think I'll turn on the TV or radio today.

Date: 2008/11/04 21:09:32, Link 69.223.50.151

Author: khan

Iowa for Obama.

Date: 2008/11/04 22:29:55, Link 69.223.50.151

Author: khan

Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 04 2008,23:23) Lewdies and gropenmens, I give you the 44th president of the United States: Barack Obama. p.s., Texas Teach: You should see the other photoshops I could've posted, including the "Palin: No More Bush" one... Hawt! Okay, truthfully, I can't find her very attractive when she's not too bright. Smart = sexah , for me. Her jeans-encased bootay was sloshing around when they showed her voting, though. edit: I'm watching McCain's concession speech, and I have to admire his decency in that. Good show, there. Yes I am rather impressed.

Date: 2008/11/05 15:37:26, Link 69.223.83.208

Author: khan

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Nov. 05 2008,16:23) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 05 2008,15:09) The graciousness of McCain's concession actually kind of startled me, too. Almost made me feel sorry for the guy.* I think he wanted to close out his career on a more upbeat note than being the asshole who spent 3 months calling Obama a socialist terrorist. His audience wasn't all on board, tho. They booed very loudly the first couple times he mentioned Obama's name. I don't think Caribou Barbie has made any kind of statement, tho. Alaska just re-elected senator Stevens even though he's now a convicted felon facing possible jail time. So of course they're talking about Palin running for his seat after the Senate kicks him out next month. *Almost. A few weeks ago I got the impression that McCain made the mistake of following his parties election strategy rather than just doing his own thing. I reckon that McCain is a decent guy and should have followed his instincts rather than pander to the people that his advisers considered their core. Too late now. Anyway I like Obama and just hope he can realise his potential. Obama has united an unlikely group of people. Good luck to him. We do live in interesting times. A curse according to some, but a blessing according to me. In my lifetime I have seen America move from segregation to electing a mixed race president. Fascinating. Good luck! It's a slippery slope: give them the right to vote, ~50 years later one of them gets to be president. /sarcasm I worked with the Obama campaign, and the competence exhibited on all levels gives me hope for his administration.

Date: 2008/11/06 18:54:22, Link 69.223.91.248

Author: khan

He appears to be stuck in some sort of 'do loop'.

Date: 2008/11/09 13:05:33, Link 69.223.86.190

Author: khan

And nao invites us? Happy Birthday!

Date: 2008/11/09 13:28:50, Link 69.223.86.190

Author: khan

Quote This movie, for those of you that don't know, is a brilliant, well-done look at intelligent design and it's rejection by academia.  It is not a movie on creation, per say, Fail. Quote it is a movie on the science behind intelligent design. World's shortest movies?

Date: 2008/11/09 16:18:39, Link 69.223.86.190

Author: khan

Quote short fruit flies with purple flowers and red eyed pea plants I think there's a poem in there somewhere.

Date: 2008/11/09 18:52:06, Link 69.223.86.190

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 09 2008,19:47) Quote (Louis @ Nov. 09 2008,17:29)   Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 09 2008,22:25)   Quote (khan @ Nov. 09 2008,17:18)     Quote short fruit flies with purple flowers and red eyed pea plants I think there's a poem in there somewhere. It would of course involve sex.... {Eyebrows raise}   Quote ...(linked genes). CURSES! Foiled again. Louis (x + 3) (x + 7) = x2 + 7x + 3x + 21 = x2 + 10x + 21 Reminds me of ninth grade, when I discovered (and fell in love with) algebra. 23 X 17 = 20x20 - 3x3 = 400 - 9 = 391

Date: 2008/11/10 15:12:19, Link 69.223.60.85

Author: khan

WTF is an Affirmative Action President?

Date: 2008/11/10 18:38:44, Link 69.223.60.85

Author: khan

Quote While visiting his brother in Florida in 1992, he rescued a small child from the jaws of an alligator. Katherine Harris?

Date: 2008/11/10 18:55:50, Link 69.223.60.85

Author: khan

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 10 2008,19:46) WAD:   Quote Would you want your child to marry an atheist? William Dembski Since atheism and its connection to Darwinism is a perennial topic at UD, I refer readers to a wide-ranging article on atheism at Conservapedia (www.conservapedia.com/Atheism). Particularly striking is the social (un)acceptability of atheism when it comes to marrying off one’s children: www.conservapedia.com/Atheism#Views_on_Atheists Conservapedia reports a ranking of objects of bigotry by degree of revulsion. WAD links approvingly, because atheists are at the top of this noble listing. (You always were a petulant prick, WAD.) Are these folks into arranged marriages?

Date: 2008/11/11 19:00:02, Link 69.223.62.27

Author: khan

Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 11 2008,19:36) Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 09 2008,14:07)   Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 09 2008,15:22) I'm fairly convinced that most atheists would argue that there is "no evidence" for God even if he was standing right in front of them. I'm not "arguing" for or against anything. I'm merely pointing out that you have not provided any such objective evidence. Unless I missed it somewhere. Where was it? And when did God stand right in front of you? Did you filch some of that moonshine that you accuse Erasmus of abusing? There are more mind-boggling engineering achievements and technological marvels inside one human being than in all of man's inventions combined!  Yet you'll continue to hold that there's "no evidence" for God. Open your eyes man! So god-boy: I have a standing offer to worship whatever god-thingy will heal me. All he/she/it/one of them has to do is: appear to me (a dream/vision will suffice) name itself name my condition to be cured state what actions will be required in return for this cure (I reserve the right of refusal if said conditions are beyond my ethics) It's been 10 years, and none have shown up.

Date: 2008/11/12 15:38:23, Link 69.223.86.211

Author: khan

Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 12 2008,15:09) Quote (khan @ Nov. 11 2008,17:00) So god-boy: I have a standing offer to worship whatever god-thingy will heal me. All he/she/it/one of them has to do is: appear to me (a dream/vision will suffice) name itself name my condition to be cured state what actions will be required in return for this cure (I reserve the right of refusal if said conditions are beyond my ethics) It's been 10 years, and none have shown up. Do you really want to know if there is a God or not?  Because if you do, there's a way.   It's pretty simple actually... You just have to say this every day:   "God, if you're real, then reveal yourself to me so I can believe in you."   (The tricky part of course, is that you have to actually mean it when you say those words.) If you really want to know about God, he'll reveal himself to you - I guarantee it.  It's 100% dependent upon your openness to it though. So do you really want to know or not? Isn't that what I posted: "Demonstrate your existence and we can negotiate."?

Date: 2008/11/12 16:04:11, Link 69.223.86.211

Author: khan

A sad that we forgot.

Date: 2008/11/12 16:24:42, Link 69.223.86.211

Author: khan

Quote You challenged God to meet your specific criteria.  I'm not sure how you did this, you don't really say.  Do you get up every morning and say a prayer?  Is this more of a "standing invitation" you've kept in the back of your mind?  How did you actually go about implementing this "standing offer"?   I wake up every morning and say: "Crap, I wish this would go away. He (obviously has a penis) knows all and sees all; surely he (she/it/they?) can discern my thoughts and desires. So god-thingy wants to save me, and knows what it would take to save me, but is prevented by something (meta-god) from doing what is required?

Date: 2008/11/12 19:13:38, Link 69.223.86.211

Author: khan

Quote First, God is not a man - he is not bound to our physical limitations.  He's also all powerful. How big is god's penis?

Date: 2008/11/14 17:33:02, Link 69.223.35.131

Author: khan

Quote (bystander @ Nov. 14 2008,17:56) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 14 2008,17:24) I blogged about the out-to-lunch-or-further-ness of Georgia Rep. Paul Broun and his speculation about Barack Obama playing 'what would you do if you were Hitler'. Rep. Broun didn't show up in the comments, but a very conservative fellow did pop up to defend the Bush administration and castigate Obama, who he consistently refers to as "the socialist bastard". It does go some way toward showing that politics and opposing religious antievolution are not completely correlated, since I happen to know this fellow, and he has been active in opposing creationist efforts. But we are having quite the back-and-forth over the current administration and the next one. As I note in my latest comment:   Quote It wouldn’t hurt to be alert to abuses in any new administration, but I confess that I really don’t understand the exceptional animus displayed by Broun and now you concerning Obama. The depth of emotion that some people have in reviling Obama does catch me by surprise. I've had a look at the right wing sites and you have post after post of Obama is a muslim, antichrist etc. I think that this is the ultimate outcome of the republican methods and it is quite worrying. They are obviously wrong, I think that even if it isn't real, Obama won on the messages of inclusiveness and being reality based. White people over 30 voted for McCain. White people under 30 voted overwhelmingly for Obama. Outside of these bastions of the right, the web is overwhelming liberal and reality based. I have been using Digg and found out that based on Diggs, that left wing to right wing is around 100 to 1. Internet penetration isn't universal yet but what is it going to be like in 8 years time? I'm white and (way) over 30 and I not only voted for Obama, I worked for his campaign; but then, I'm female and atheist.

Date: 2008/11/16 11:40:11, Link 69.223.86.190

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 16 2008,11:26) On a somewhat more interesting note, today marks 21 years since the day I first married my wife. Thought I'd share. That's wonderful. Wonderful that it's been 21 years. Wonderful that you remembered.

Date: 2008/11/16 17:57:15, Link 69.223.34.168

Author: khan

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 16 2008,18:30) I'm always amazed by the arrogance of Dan Joe the TV repair guy Plumber, who despite knowing squat about biology or science in general, despite never having made the effort to learn even the rudimentary basics, somehow has the idea in his head that he is going to overturn all of science using an ancient anthology of superstitions. Which part of "Yeah, we're all aware of what your book says, and it's incorrect," is difficult to follow? Does Dan Joe just not get that his great new insight is neither great nor new? What insight does Dan Joe think he's got that "no one's ever thought of before!!!!"? Does Dan Joe the TV repair guy Plumber regularly accost his neurosurgeon the same way? "Hai Dok, u r doin' it rong!!!" His car mechanic? His Bob Jones 'University' indoctrinated educated preacher? I wonder sometimes what Dan Bob would say if his lawyer began instructing him in TV repair the ins and outs of toilet repair? Usually though, I just laugh and get back to doing homework. A bit of crank convergence: I (despite having little to no education in the subject at hand) can easily dismiss (20 100 200...) years of science (biology astronomy physics...) with only a few arguments from (ignorance authority ...).

Date: 2008/11/17 12:06:13, Link 69.223.66.182

Author: khan

Quote That's all fine in theory Bill. But what if God (or some other being) actually did create life? Are you saying it would be beyond the reaches of empirical science to A) discover this, and B) figure out how and even perhaps why he did it? If science is about investigation, why would it have to stop when faced with a scenario that challenges the limitations of the material world? How big is god's penis?

Date: 2008/11/17 12:16:03, Link 69.223.66.182

Author: khan

Quote (olegt @ Nov. 16 2008,23:10) The tard flow is getting turbulent.  tribune7 replies to NotedScholars:   Quote “Beyond the natural” is a metaphor, and not a very useful one. It’s not a metaphor. It is a literal statement. Natural has a meaning. Supernatural has a meaning. Natural explanations fail to describe the universe. Supernatural ones do not. The only reason to reject a supernatural explanation is emotion. On one side we have deep space and deep time; on the other side we have deep tard.

Date: 2008/11/17 13:33:57, Link 69.223.66.182

Author: khan

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 17 2008,14:31) Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 17 2008,19:27) Quote (JLT @ Nov. 17 2008,10:48)   Quote (Louis @ Nov. 17 2008,18:26) I am impressed by D'tard falling on his own (cheesy poof encrusted) sword. What wonders may emerge? I'm voting for his own blog. Please let it be his own blog. Louis Great minds think alike?     Quote 16 FtK 11/17/2008 12:19 pm [sobs uncontrollably] Noooooooooo! Not Dave…. I always rather enjoyed his global warming and political posts. I also got a kick out of his dissent from Descent so to speak…made for interesting dialogue. Maybe he’ll start his own blog? Hopefully?? Well, that settles it.  Louis is FTK. Oh now that, sir, is far too low for words. Expect my seconds with a choice of weapons. Louis Two by Fours at dawn?