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Date: 2007/01/22 07:50:48, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 22 2007,03:54)
Dr GH,

And here in the 1st world, highly technologically advanced UK we had our first measles death a couple of years ago due directly to the lack of uptake of MeaslesMumpsRubella vaccination.

Remember folks, a little bit of knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing, but a whole shit load of tard is lethal.

Louis

I haven't told anyone about this but Louis came over to visit ......I told him all about the joys of Bubonic Plague, its not lethal at all, all you need is a rabid sog to suck out the buboes....

''The Curse of the Claw'

Date: 2007/01/23 07:57:16, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (MidnightVoice @ Jan. 23 2007,07:32)
In a move that is likely to spark controversy, the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority has for the first time recommended that pupils be taught about atheism and creationism in RE classes.

To put it mildly!!

But I think it is a good idea to be honest.  RI (as it was then) never hurt me as a child at school.

Yeah and when the kids figure out the Kreationism is just another krappy oversold and underwhelming Korporate American product that when compared to its competitors, is nowhere as interesting as Shintoism, Sufism, Shamenism, Sock pupeting, Surfing, Stalinism, Shiva, Stravinsky, Sikism or oral Sex (and those are just the S catagory of cults, past times and personalities).

No wonder the ID/creationists would complain.

Date: 2007/01/23 08:07:50, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 23 2007,07:58)
Oral sex has NOTHING to do with cults......

......unless you need to sort out your spelling that is.

Louis

Oh sorry you're right, that should be under O....

I once met a horny witch who promised to sort out my spelling and she was definetly into ....cults.

Just replace it with Scientology the effect is about the same the first time if they get your name and address, the charges go up if you want more.

Date: 2007/01/23 08:51:57, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote
But then I wasn't even born in the '60s, so I've probably missed out.


I think I was a Rastifarion or something in the '70's ....if I recall correctly..... anyway that's what I told the girl who had 400 Bhudda sticks (my favourite religion) in Bali in 1975. Those were the days $2.00 each and a pound of Sumatran Heads for $13.00 at Lake Toba. We used to have joint rolling competitions. I think the record was 13 papers. It took 4  of us (+- blow ins)to get through that in about 2 weeks.

I hope I didn't write that down ...oops too late.

Can't offer any cure on coming second bit except to say that as Salvidor Dali said on his 70th birthday "The best thing about being 70 was waking up without an erection." Practice makes perfect and it does keep getting better with age.

Date: 2007/01/24 00:37:05, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (avocationist @ Jan. 23 2007,23:48)
My dictionary has about 5 definitions of entropy, including the general winding down of the universe. This is a common type of usage. What was wrong with my using it?

Without understanding the scientific method, explosive logic, or having completed (and demonstrated an understanding) a formal course in one of the science disciplines that uses entropy as a physical measure or by observing and confirming that quantity, you may as well compete in the 'Tour de France' by correspondence.....using a dictionary instead of a bike.



I'm sorry, but most if not all of the creationists I have come across have such a poor understanding of the difference between cold hard facts and fiction that simplest tests for either  go in one ear and out the other. Language for them is just a means for propaganda not a method to communicate an understanding of objective reality.

Many scientists simply do not grasp that creationists are completely unaware of the process or the simplest rules for doing actual science. And make the mistake that creationists, due to their pathological inability to distinguish between a logical truth and untruth as a result of living in a magical reality where fiction IS fact, could benefit from a logical explanation of how scientific conclusions are made. Creationists don't even know the first move in a game they don't understand the rules of.

The one thing creationists all have in common is the ability to sound very convincing at making fiction facts or what belongs to Caesar, God's and vice versa.

Avo. I suggest you devise an experiment to test for g$d then sit back and wait, when you get the results and you don't like them ......wait some more.

Just for the excercise how would you test for g$d?

I can give you plenty of examples if you want.

Date: 2007/01/24 01:01:42, Link
Author: k.e.
Oh what a shame. (snicker)

So that means you are not going to convince a bunch of heathens here the error of our wicked wicked ways and get a free ticket into heaven?

Oh yeah of little faith.


Here Avo. try the Oliver Sacks g$d test.

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Boarding school cured Oliver of religious belief. As a test of God's power, he planted two rows of radishes, and prayed for God to blast one and make the other flourish. When they grew up identically, he was confirmed in his unbelief and abandonment. School, he says, affected his capacity for bonding, belief and belonging. "On the other hand, there can be too much belonging and belief - look at present-day America, with its religious fanaticism."

from here:-
Seeing double

Date: 2007/01/24 09:35:47, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 24 2007,08:39)
Quote (Altabin @ Jan. 24 2007,03:07)
DaveScot, military analyst (my bold below):

   
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Well Jim [Webb], I was a Marine at the end of the Vietnam war. I didn’t go, it was mostly over by then, but one thing I noticed was that all the non-commissioned officers senior to me were real combat veterans. They knew how to survive guerilla warfare in an Asian backwater. Me and my generation of Marines, all we did was play at wargames 4 weeks a year in the Mojave desert. No one was trying to kill us, no foreign language was spoken by the natives, no guerillas in civilian clothes running around, none of that. After 30 years of that kind of experience our military was virtually without anyone in any rank who’d had actual combat experience. Here’s the deal Jim. In order to have an effective force in fighting guerilla and urban wars in Arab countries we need actual combat veterans seasoned in that type of warfare leading the unseasoned troops.

That's the most ass-backward justification I've ever heard for the Iraq war: we need the Iraq war to create seasoned veterans, in order to fight the Iraq war (and the other ones we set off in the Middle East).  Iraq is just like Vietnam, but in a good way.  And Bush has managed this war even better than Vietnam:
   
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Now we have an effective force led by NCOs who know how to survive urban and guerilla wars in Arab countries. And Bush managed to build that force without losing 58,000 American lives as were sacrificed in Vietnam but rather limited the losses to 3,000.

A brilliant strategy.

   
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Drop and give me 500 Webb, then issue an apology to the public you tried to deceive.

I think you meant to say, "Drop and give me 500, homo".  If you're going to be a self-parody, at least try to be accurate.

So Jim Webb, who DID see combat, is now supposed to 'apologize' to Dave tard, who didn't.

Much like Bush attacking Kerry on his war record.

Bravo, Dave.

Ah ...let me get this straight Secret ID lab Concierge and  retrenched marine spanner boy WHO WASN'T THERE AND WAS ON THE LOSING SIDE offers his valuable military knowledge on Iraq...that will change the outcome from losing to...... er losing.

It must be because as a houseboat deckchair mean time before failure tester, that qualifies him for Navy experience these days.

Look D.T. the only reason Bush is still there is to try to save Project Haliburton and GOP OIL from having to close down their Baghdad headquarters and leave before they can steal the rest of the oil AND put more money in their own pockets while they still have signing rights on Pentagon Checks.

It doesn't take a genius to work what is going to happen....again.

Date: 2007/01/24 18:29:09, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 24 2007,17:07)
Incidentally, it's nice to see Dave's total lack of self awareness -- or perhaps a wicked sense of irony -- is still intact:

 
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As I was watching the Democratic response to President Bush’s State Of The Union speech tonight Senator Jim Webb played the United States Marine card[ three times (for himself, his brother, and his son all Marines). I take it personally when someone does that.


(my boldfacing)

Poor poor ex Fieldmashal or is that Fieldmushroom?  ...fightin' Dave Stormin' Springer doesn't do irony except when he wants to unintentionally frag himself, which seems like every other day.

Hoist by his own MarineCard

blogside Ironical Explosion Device



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PS: Dave was using his own head. That's the whole problem.


I wondered where that hollow sound was coming from.

Date: 2007/01/24 18:39:28, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote
ID the future  
ID Superblog

Describing IDtheFuture as a Superblog is like putting together Milli Vanilli, Cake, Billy Ray Cyrus, Ashley Simpson, Nelson, and Vanilla Ice, and calling it a Supergroup.


More like Doris Day playing Dembski, Napolean Dynamite playing Densee with special guest Walter Matthau  ironically playing fat and grumpy  Dave 'Stormin' Springer.

Date: 2007/01/24 18:51:43, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Jan. 24 2007,18:43)
Quote (GCT @ Jan. 24 2007,18:34)
Screw that.  Avo says ID is science, and that the DI is right.  Well, then Avo should explain to us why the wedge document is all about pushing religion through ID and why it pretty explicitly says ID is religious.

She's never read it, remember?

She's never read ANYTHING.

That's why she hasn't a goddamn clue what she's blithering about.  (shrug)

AND PROUD OF IT!!!!

I'll have you know a 'Vocationist' in my world means doing nothing.

I looked it up on dictionary dot com and it said 'have a vacation...to do nothing'.

It's easy...just look....

Lenny you are a duck ...look it up and explain it to everyone..I'll be back later when your done.

If there are any questions .....I'm right and you are wrong ...next question.

Date: 2007/01/24 22:06:06, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 24 2007,20:35)
That link was wery funny. I don't know how he keeps a straight face.

EDIT: and make sure to click on the nearby link "Animal Rights 2" for part two. when he says "Everyone knows who p. diddy is" I started laughing out loud.

How does he keep a straight face? It's a gift.

Apparently his team have to supress fits of laughter in front of the mugs he lines up, on a regular basis.

The thing that gets me is why his targets are not bursting out in fits of laughter...they must have to deal with some seriously deluded tard as though it is normal.

Dave 'Stormin' Springer makes promotional video for Dell

Date: 2007/01/25 01:18:15, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 24 2007,22:33)
Quote (k.e. @ Jan. 24 2007,23:06)
The thing that gets me is why his targets are not bursting out in fits of laughter...they must have to deal with some seriously deluded tard as though it is normal.

Experts frequently have to endure idiocy. Maybe that predisposes them to take apparent idiocy at face value. For example, the guy who taught my PY341 class (Intro to Thermo) at one point bitched out the department secretary for sending all the crackpots his way. He was irritated that every week he had some nutcase on the phone or in his mailbox explaining how to build free-energy devices that would revolutionize the universe and overthrow all the current paradigms. Much like the Intelligent Design nuts. The department secretary told him he wasn't special-- there were lots of nuts, and she was distributing them equally around the physics faculty.

Oh ......so Demski isn't just a one off anti-gravity, zero energy, infinite wavelength, disembowled imaginary entity..... pseudoscience nutcase?

Geez I can understand your Intro to Thermo guys frustration, friggin' pods and replicants are so well disguised these days its giving good cheap clothing a bad name.
They should be given a test before they can buy a razor or get a hair cut, "Why does facial hair on the human male make it a mammal?".
If they fail they join the crowd that reminds everyone else how lucky they are.

Date: 2007/01/25 01:29:50, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 23 2007,19:49)
Quote (BWE @ Jan. 19 2007,12:13)
 
Quote (ke @ a,a)
I’d rather have a great meal and sex,
Duh. Who wouldn't? :)

Me.  I'd rather have a meal and great sex.

But that's just me.

...and the girls, so I guess that's just us.

Oh ....yes, but of course...even better standing up!!

And as far as the 'girls' go wouldn't that make you all .....tri-sexual?

Date: 2007/01/25 01:57:21, Link
Author: k.e.
A lot of platypuses?

Just for fun what would a good collective noun for Creationists be?

A wedge of creationists?

List of collective nouns for non-human mammals

List of collective nouns for birds

Date: 2007/01/25 02:06:02, Link
Author: k.e.
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In light of the fact that Don comes along and says that nothing about entropy or thermodynamics prohibits evolution, it seems my intentions are misunderstood, although I've stated them a few times. I do not think entropy prohibits evolution. Information theory might, but not entropy. My interest in it was as I said, general interest in how things work. I think of entropy in a yin-yang kind of way. If entropy is yin, what is the yang?


What a relief.... I'm glad you have decided that.(giggle)

I hope you can do a better job than Dembski and Sal 'Sancho Panzo' Cordova on the info theory. If you thought Entropy was easy ....'info theory' should be a slam dunk for you.

Any formulae?

Date: 2007/01/25 02:49:51, Link
Author: k.e.
Here in the antipodes we do not say platy-peez we say platypusez. Got that Socrates?

Date: 2007/01/25 02:58:28, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2007,02:52)
K.E.

Let's be honest, there in the antipodes you shag anything that moves, including monotremes, and then go and shoot a couple of abos for good measure.

Let's be also be even more honest, you're just following the example we Brits set you!

;)

Louis

1.There is one thing we don't follow your example on, just ask Freddy Flintoff. Beaten by the N.Z. Cricket team ...you know they only play cricket with you because the pub in Bondi ran out of beer.

2.Don't knock Emu shagging until you've tried it.

Date: 2007/01/25 03:56:27, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2007,03:05)
AH a cricket jibe.......


Nope, I don't have any comeback, you're right, we were terrible.

Oh and I have nothing against emu shagging, it's great. I did try it once at a nearby zoo. It was marvellous for the first hundred metres or so, then we go out of step.

Louis

Its easier on skis
Emo EMU

Date: 2007/01/25 04:02:51, Link
Author: k.e.
Louis you may have heard this one but read down to
A man in a bar with an Emu and a cat.

Date: 2007/01/25 04:27:16, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 25 2007,04:19)
Quote (k.e. @ Jan. 25 2007,02:57)
A lot of platypuses?

Just for fun what would a good collective noun for Creationists be?

A wedge of creationists?

List of collective nouns for non-human mammals

List of collective nouns for birds

The collective noun is 'shortbus'. Used in a sentence:

"Today the mall was visited by a shortbus of creationists. They bought a lot of Left Behind books."

A shortbus of creationists...I like it.

(Evil grin)...howabout a collective noun for Darwinists.

A rolleDover of Darwinists ?

A waterloo of Darwinists?

Darwinists .....An antithesis to Creationists

Date: 2007/01/25 06:56:28, Link
Author: k.e.
Shhhh ITS A SECRET.

Along with the secret ID research lab where ex Marine Fieldmushroom 'stormin' Dave Springer is the doorman, comment cleaner and IP inspector everything is totally transparent ...in fact a completely empty vessel.

Date: 2007/01/26 07:58:08, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Mike PSS @ Jan. 25 2007,22:42)
Quote (avocationist @ Jan. 25 2007,02:53)
Mike,
I do like learning most anything. I think my main question is can we not see the law(s) of entropy at work in every day situations. The very fact that when the organism dies, the forces that work against it cease, allowing entropy to increase, seems to validate my point.
In light of the fact that Don comes along and says that nothing about entropy or thermodynamics prohibits evolution, it seems my intentions are misunderstood, although I've stated them a few times. I do not think entropy prohibits evolution. Information theory might, but not entropy. My interest in it was as I said, general interest in how things work. I think of entropy in a yin-yang kind of way. If entropy is yin, what is the yang?

Avo,
I'll restate what I said before about Entropy.

Entropy is a defined variable used in the balance equations known as Thermodynamics.  Entropy doesn't "exist" as its own, unique force or system.

When you mis-use scientific terms like Entropy then people who DO understand Thermodynamics look at you funny.  Your usage just doesn't make sense.

At present I don't care if you call what you believe a disorganizing force and an organizing force (yin and yang) but just DON'T use Entropy in the discussion.  It doesn't fit (to those who know Thermodynamics) into your description.

You could use Entropy as an analogy of your disorganizing force, but I would avoid that too.

In my eyes the whole Entropy/Thermodynamic discussion is a good example of showing you how arguing points against well established scientific principles leads to a god-of-the-gaps type conclusion.  ALWAYS.  As we "drill down" deeper into details of these scientific principles then you eventually reach some basic mathematical functions like the cosmological constant or the Heisenberg Uncertainty constant.  When we eventually get to that level of detail then the discussion becomes "How many angels fit within the gap spacing of a proton quark."  The proverbial "Where's Waldo" of the evo/creo debate.
   
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I'd like to have a look at the nylonase question, it interests me, and I want to see if it parallels antibiotic resistance. But it will be DAYS before I can get to it.

Thanks for answering.  Here's the Permalink to the original post.

Nylon Bug Question Permalink

Mike PSS

I like your point there so; Entropy is like Time,
neither once purchased, can be returned for credit.

Date: 2007/01/26 08:30:34, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 25 2007,18:16)
Quote (Glen Davidson @ Jan. 25 2007,15:23)
...It is well understood that consciousness is not only restricted to an area, or more likely in my judgment (and that of others), to several areas, but that consciousness can diminish or disappear from conscious areas.  This is why consciousness of certain functions disappears with those functions during dream states, or in other altered states of consciousness...

Consciousness.  Here's how it works:

See, atop the brainstalk and under the noodlepacks are two rumballs.  Everything harvested by the eyestalks and earwigs and bodybag echoes through the rumballs, which hum and sing and strobe and scan the noodlepacks through massive bundles of sparky angelhair.  Yet ten times more information descends from the noodlepacks into the rumballs than the reverse (hence the phrase “the remembered present”) as the noodlepack-rumball echochamber is gaited by the reticularactionbaiting system, which is stretched over the brainstalk and rumballs like a cheap stocking.

I know, you’re thinking that the frontal noodlepacks and the mesobrainstalk danglingbasil also grow echoing motorplants through more massive bundles of sparky angelhair. And you’d be right.  All goosed and framed and valence-tagged by intrinsic mammaryanimal noodlepaths for SEEKING, RAGE, FEAR, PLAY, ATTACHMENT, PANIC, and so forth.  

That's it in a nutshell.

MY noodles  can't soak that , in fact they packed their rumballs and rolled so far over to the side, hair started geting stuck the de-quantumiser and almost sucked everything into a bord wender.


My 12th premium  award for tardockery goes 1/2 to Reciprocating Bill
and 1/2 to Michael Tuite for  Sal "Look, no Infidels here' Disnformation Minister.

An honorable mention to Richard (again....bastard!)

And in case you're wondering where the other 11 awards  went ......I awarded them to ME :D I would have invited you all to the post award party but Paris and PDiddy etc took all the available places.
At least that's how I remember it after I woke up.

Date: 2007/01/26 08:44:11, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (keiths @ Jan. 26 2007,01:10)
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 25 2007,22:11)
Re "I know, you're thinking that the frontal noodlepacks and the mesobrainstalk danglingbasil also grow echoing motorplants through more massive bundles of sparky angelhair."

The who whatting how with huh? :)

Recip Bill is channeling k.e....

Hey!!

It's ALL his own work.

I'll need at least 3 large Vodkas to top that.

mutter...splutter...

Date: 2007/01/26 20:42:08, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Mike PSS @ Jan. 26 2007,10:19)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 26 2007,11:12)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 26 2007,10:10)
 
Quote (Altabin @ Jan. 26 2007,09:57)
What's that word for an illegitimate child?  All I can remember is that it starts with BAS.  Can anyone finish it for me?

Etymology of "tardity"

c.1386 (implied in tardity), from O.Fr. tardif (12c.), from V.L. *tardivus, from L. tardus "slow, sluggish, dull, stupid," of unknown origin.

Ad vindictam tardus

thought is was from retard (French for slow..)

Response 1)
Umm.....  O.Fr. is "Old French" and V.L. is "Vulgar Latin".  Both are roots of the french language.
Or are you going to start another Portuguese Moment on this one.

*****
Response 2)
Are you trying to bait us?

I just can't see whether your making a statement or trying to bait someone with this response so I'll cover both bases.

Are you suggesting all the contibutors to UD including Dave "Cyclops, the sheep and ram  feeler" Fieldmarshalmushroom Scott of the Tardic, unconciously make freudian slips, which seem so implausible
that the phenomenon almost proves the existance of a tellic presence in a shiny sphere behind a cloud above the whitehouse or homoeroticism
in cowboy songs, or both?

Maybe ladyboy Dave Tard can tell us, after he get gets out of that new victoria secrets number (with chaps).

Who Would Jesus Blow?

What do the girls get as a cancer cure? A cucumber?

Come on Dave Tard I know you're just jumping up and down all exited like, so tell us WHAT IS going on in the ID closet. quick they're onto us hide that thing WAD, smash,crash

Pick the error Dave Tard 'What is the sound of one hand camping?'


What's that little thing you throw before you aim (even better with your eyes closed and backwards) spelt backwards? DA__  ( it's not a trick....if you say it).

Date: 2007/01/26 20:51:12, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (bourgeois_rage @ Jan. 26 2007,13:10)
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Jan. 26 2007,12:46)

Whoa, I've been gone a while. I didn't realize a picture of Dave had been revealed.

Yikes.

Not only is he STILL wearing the last free Dell T-shirt they gave him (the writing has faded) he can't afford a Mirkin* to patch his chin.

**
Mirkin

Date: 2007/01/26 21:05:41, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2007,23:26)
Um... Okay, first off: what are the two fuzzy, breast-like things on the front of ID Minister Sal-vation? A really bad plastic surgery job, or a reach-up chest grab from the Cookie Monster? I think I'm going to wig. :p

Now, 'bout the new book Richard mentions:      
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In Flock of Dodos, the reader will discover ominous parallels between Billy Joel's greaser anthem Uptown Girl and chief intelligent design proponent William Dembski, the wholly non-Christian origins of the United States, the goofy history of the creation science movement, secrets of a happy marriage to anti-feminist icon Phylis Schafly,

Okay, yeah, that is nasty. Oooh. Ow. I'm going to have nightmares now.    
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stunning evidence that William Jennings Bryan might not have been all that bright, the the three interesting things that occurred in 2004, and the true nature of the millennia-old Conspiracy of Nonsense that threatens the very fiber of Western Civilization.

:D So what were the "three interesting things that happened in 2004"? Anyone?

Bill, man, now you're going to take on National Lampoon and a sociologist and put them out of business as well? Don't you pay those people no never-mind. I think you got your hands full already. When is this ID-friendly center at a major university going to be announced? Did I miss that?  ;)

If you look closely they are bunny ears one of the ID crew are getting their cancer cure .......dressed in a bunny suit.

Date: 2007/01/27 18:06:20, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (GCT @ Jan. 27 2007,15:29)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 27 2007,15:03)

Wow Steve, it's like you two were separated at birth.

I see C.H. needs some assistance....

Typical Darwinist ad homo attack.

When are you going to concentrate on my new book?


I only came here to get some tips on how to handle a skeptical press.

So give me some more questions, I need more practice ignoring them.

Lenny: whilst I didn't deny 'stone the adulterers to death'   Howie Ahmanson   was a major financier behind the DI, notice how I cleverly deflected the focus of the reply to a specific and propably unanswerable question on an actual cash contribution made by the miscreant Machiavelian mangler of the Episcopal Church.

There is no point trying to tie Howie Ahmanson to me and the DI.

If you had any brains, you would notice I can deny mendacity with the best of them.

Just try accusing me of deliberate deception by using the same drawing for a Tasmanian Tiger and a Wolf.

It was a mistake...it rhymes with mendacious....get it.

Date: 2007/01/27 22:11:28, Link
Author: k.e.
'arden Said:
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This doesn't feel to me like a cabal of academics are trying to hide scientific findings by artificially trying to keep journal prices high. Most academic journals I'm aware of barely make ends meet.


I see you are matching their pathetic level of detail with 'truthiness'.

Why do you need pesky facts when you feel you really, really know already?

It is just so obvious that just so 'facts' are just 'just so stories'.

So, just get the story straight, evolution is only for wealthy people.

It even sees well heeled, loaded and well dressed admirals about the marina only able to  afford nightgowns.

To save taxpayers funds the DI are performing a public service by offering a cheaper alternative to evolution for poor people.

No money ?

Can't afford evolution?

No problem our product is the proven ingredient free, no fact, no cost substitute.  

For $39.99 you can have your choice of  proven ingredient free, no fact, no cost substitute ID books.

There is just one catch....we lied about no cost.

Date: 2007/01/28 00:31:54, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 27 2007,23:38)
The thread Police:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2007#comments

Poor old apollo230 nearly gets Sternberged!

Sternberged my eye!!

I'll choose whoever I want to make me look like a genius among genii.     WmAD

From same thread

Borne:
 
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Men know music as they know life. Music is light. It travels in light.

Even the world of wildlife heeds the sound and sings along in lesser harmonies.

“Music is the bottleneck of the silence of God” - Robert Fripp (King Crimson)

Darwinians: Lifeless, mindless and vain fools who cannot see anything beyond mere reproduction and survival.


Music is the nectar of god's bottled (single malt) frippen silence...*hick*...more like.

Nice bit of projection you've got going there borne-yesterday..

.Lifeless, mindless and vain fools

..... indeed a veritable bonfire of vanities with Bill 'the prettyist and vacantist of them all'
...prince of the  mindless vanities carelessly setting fire to any hint of dissent,
playing the divine piano wire garrot tightened noose while the home of Charles Darwin .....that temple of the mindless vanities Westminster Abbey* .....bornes.

*Edit added: Just noticed  Newton  shares his home with Darwin at the center for English Lifeless, mindless and vain foolsThe Collegiate Church of St Peter, Westminster

Date: 2007/01/28 00:38:33, Link
Author: k.e.
Ric'ard Huge:
Quote
HOO RAH SMEPER TARD!


.....Bows...I am not wrothy. (smeeper, ggigigle)

Date: 2007/01/28 01:10:12, Link
Author: k.e.
OK lets be fair with Doc.CH

..... he got rolled on a tiny insignificant detail, we're making a moutain lion out of mole.

Here's a bone Doc.CH .....in fact a caveful of 200,000 to around 800,000 years ago of bones.

Your not a YEC are you?


“To find complete, undamaged skeletons of Australia’s largest predatory marsupial, Thylacoleo, was a dream come true.


You may have better luck making this marsupial 'liger' into a hat or a rabbit up your sleeve ...I dunno .....see how it plays with the pre-schoolers they love rabbits and they're easier to train.

Date: 2007/01/28 07:48:40, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 28 2007,07:05)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 28 2007,04:58)
It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Ah, Macbeth and his ode to nihilism. My favourite passage by the Bard.

OH NO EVILUTION'S ULTIMATE OUTCOME IS NIHILSM!!! WHY DID I EVEN BOTHER POSTING???

Next thing ya know they'll all be taking drugs ,having sex and dancing to heavy metal...but first they'll have to go through puberty.


Date: 2007/01/28 19:36:53, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (bystander @ Jan. 28 2007,18:44)
Another classic thread! I wonder how many lurkers will be de-converted based on Mr Hunter's vague hand waving and the factual replies given.

I wonder how long he'll last before he slinks off. For a professional purveyors of anti-science the internet can be a pain as your debates are there forever for all to see.

Michael

Quote
I wonder how long he'll last before he slinks off. For a professional purveyors of anti-science the internet can be a pain as your debates are there forever for all to see.


Shhh!!

CH is doing nuance and if you state the obvious it doesn't work...willing straw men into existance requires everyone to concentrate on the swinging watch me hypnotize myself into believing that the endless argument IS an argument.

Well CH it's not.... it's a fallacy.

And did anyone tell you, you look geat in that new dress...
Yes, of course, the personal incredulity of evolutionists is well documented. This is the standard response, but appeals to personal incredulity hardly make for strong scientific evidence. Nor does it help when evolutionists mysteriously drop this incredulity when such instances arise in distant species where common descent cannot be summoned as the explanation. In these cases we are told there was a structural convergence where the functions differ.

...erm you have a Ph.D. but if you said that anywhere near where I studied you would have had them rolling in the ailse for displaying a lack of self awareness bordering on___(fill in the blank if you can CH) hint .....its called projection.


Save us the personal incredulity dressed up to look like ....actually scratch that....Lenny's questions ....any reason you are avoiding them?

Be honest now.

Date: 2007/01/28 21:27:05, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 28 2007,21:02)
Oh for pete's sake, I decide to do homework for a change and you gents beat me to the "I am Jesus" Newsweek article (Dr. Lenny!) and the told-you-so "Why can't she just teach church music" AP article (Steve Story!). Well, I'll say it anyway: I knew those dudes were weird about women. I told you so. Heh. :D

No wonder UD kicked out Heddle, BTW. Girl think. Naughty girl. :angry:

<snicker> having two now post teenage daughters, that last image Kristine hits the mark.

Although at my fair Dembskis age, he's more like Cruella De Vil.

Date: 2007/01/29 09:06:52, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (mitschlag @ Jan. 29 2007,07:58)
Quote (avocationist @ Jan. 29 2007,01:24)
...I do not believe in the supernatural, and I don't think there is such a thing as disrupting the laws of physics...

Either we live in a God universe or we don't, and they are mutually exclusive. If there is a God, then existence without God is a nonpossibility. If there is no God, then God is a silly notion, and there is not possibility of one. If we live in a God universe, it is a designed universe, and if it is a designed universe then a nondesigned one cannot have any existence and therfore cannot be rationally postulated.

Avo, you present yourself as a sincere seeker of truth, and your efforts to understand the science involved in nylon-eating bacteria speak to that.  But I have trouble interpreting your thoughts excerpted above.  You seem to be able to hold contradictory positions simultaneously.  If you don't believe in the supernatural, how can you believe in design of the universe by a god?

Here's how it works (HenryJ I'll channel Reciprocating bill for a change).

If something is supernatural it isn't, and everyone knows that. Supernatural is like UFO's they never show up to the best parties uninivited and bring extra nachos and Stolichnaya or zap the fuzz when they catch you driving home on the wrong side of the road.

So supernatural is very unreliable and so are the people who are abducted and analy probed by them.

Given the choice between supernatural and electro shock treatment for shop lifting most people would take supernatural, it passes the least harm test and remains the logical choice for any intelligent shop lifter.

Now given the brand  awareness of supernatural and its usefulness as the product of choice by various spivs,hucksters, piss artists and purveyors of flim flam for g$d to actually exist it would be much easier to deny her superness and make her just natural.

'K?

Date: 2007/01/29 22:18:20, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 29 2007,15:40)
Quote (argystokes @ Jan. 29 2007,15:29)
Man, Gil's so smart.    
Quote
An opening quote by Albert Camus at the beginning of the book gives away Monod’s agenda. I’ve read Camus (best known for The Stranger) and Camus’ philosophical compatriot, Jean-Paul Sartre (best known for Nausea), the famous French existentialists who were instrumental in promoting 20th century nihilism. I read them in the original French, in pursuit of my Masters degree in French language and literature.
He read them in the original French, which means that Monod is a nihilist and so is the institution of Darwinism! And he's got the degree to give his proclamations authority!

Why would nihilists write a book? I mean, what's the point? There's a reason there are no 'nihilist clubs'...

Holy mother of god GI claims all that and HE STILL DOESN'T GET CAMUS?

OK the guy is autistic as well as a literalist.

To paraphrase Camus himself

Quote
Abstract Art:Anything Dembski et al or their sychophants do is A product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered.
Albert Camus


Quote
The fool’s life is empty of gratitude and full of fears; its course lies wholly toward the future.
Epicurus, 341-270 b.C., Greek philosopher, Letter to Menouceus  


Live for now you crummy Dispensationalist

Quote
He who does not think that what he has is more than ample is an unhappy man, even if he is the master of the whole Word.
Epicurus,  4 b. C. - 65 a. C., Greek philosopher, in Seneca Letters to Lucilius



Gil envies his own existance.

Date: 2007/01/29 22:46:26, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 29 2007,22:22)
Re "Once you've caught the rabbit, you simply don't NEED the trap any longer."

Well, that lets Elmer Fudd out...

Henry

Ah yes...the Zen of Fudd....the rabbitless rabbiter.

Date: 2007/01/30 01:45:20, Link
Author: k.e.
Quote (djmullen @ Jan. 30 2007,00:28)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 29 2007,15:25)
OE has had 6 posts in a day! It's gone viral, dudes!

Tipping point! Tipping point!

More like one True Loon has descended to provide entertainment to all.

I agree, though I don't think that I'm THAT entertaining.

But Mr. Deity*  IS entertaining ...(on you Tube thanks steves)
...so much so it brings to mind some wise ass who once said that trying to  prove god exists will only bring discredit and ridicule to Christianity.

Its in the bible, look it up. I think that line is the only one you are supposed to take literally.

*Mr Deity

Date: 2007/05/31 06:43:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Hi ppl back to cillivisation for a few days before heading for the hills for another few weeks.

New name but same ATTITUDE.

They kill snakes here Lenny. I have video of a 4 metre Python being dispatched with on the spot prepared  jungle spears by machette and half naked Melanesians, will share when I get wired next time.

Hill to all the people I like, including that snob PG who doesn't visit the only place to B ...oh and my less sxy rival RTH.

To all others sorry I do not have enough Kinas to abuse you properly but don't dispair your time will come.

XXXXX

k.e

special xxx for kristine and BWE.

oh all right RTH RBill STEVE (all of them) Lenny gotta go.

Date: 2007/06/03 04:16:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 31 2007,22:47)
Quote (k.e.. @ May 31 2007,06:43)
They kill snakes here Lenny. I have video of a 4 metre Python being dispatched with on the spot prepared  jungle spears by machette and half naked Melanesians

Male or female?


:)

Male ...they are hiding their females from me.

4th world internet connection so I have to go

Date: 2007/06/03 04:18:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 31 2007,19:46)
Quote (Ichthyic @ May 31 2007,19:24)
KE:

you're in New Guinea?

how did you end up there?

A wrong turn at Brisbane?




(He's probably just there shopping for kotekas.)

hahahahahaha!!!

Tres bloody funny.

On the side of mountain doing ground radar on a nickel deposit, since you ask.

Date: 2007/06/03 04:21:57, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 02 2007,23:09)
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 02 2007,22:45)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 02 2007,18:08)

Thus spake DaveTard, renown climatologist, geneticist and published developmental biologist.

don't forget "professional mushroom grower".

I think that D' Tard only has personal experience in the mycology of nail fungus, and that recurring rash on his butt.  

I could be mistaken.

Plus expert disco-very channel consumer and vicarious liver of big machines and small dick syndrome tool man.

Date: 2007/06/03 04:30:22, Link
Author: k.e..
No penis gourds in these parts ....have to go over the border for them. But we are having missionaries for lunch tomorrow I believe. A Baptist for an appetizer and a Lutherin for main course.

Date: 2007/06/03 20:12:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2007,18:57)
Quote
Super Dave Osborne is a character created and played by comedian Bob Einstein. He is an inept, greedy and self-absorbed stuntman who is frequently injured when his stunts go wrong.


That does sound like our Dave.

Yeah....Here is you big chance dt/de..vout.

Juggling chainsaws standing in the back of of your moving speed boat while adjusting the carburettor with your foot and directing your wifes banco team watersking in a pyramid formation....pass the cheesy poofs.

That should equal all your other great achievments like working for the worlds worst laptop company.

Date: 2007/06/04 01:34:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 04 2007,00:11)
Quote
...chance dt/de..vout.

Don't do that!  There might be mathematicians reading.

Bob

:D

I know!

Perhaps dt/de..void could regale us all with the probability of him and squire Dembsuk banning one on their blog?

Just relaxing here in Port Moresby a little before dissappearing into the steamy mountain wilds by chopper where no mathmatician has set foot forth, before.

"Dr Dembski I presume" are not the words I expect to hear here.

Date: 2007/06/04 01:56:58, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 04 2007,00:52)
Quote (BWE @ June 04 2007,00:37)
Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ June 01 2007,07:18)
 
Quote (BWE @ June 01 2007,04:42)
 
Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 31 2007,22:36)
   
Quote (skeptic @ May 31 2007,01:47)
Sorry, Lenny, there's idealism and then there's reality.  You may choose to live that way but you can not expect or anticipate that all members of the society will.  The only way to ensure that is totalitarianism and I know you aren't proposing that.  It's a paradox.  may look good on paper and feel good in a Kumbaya sort of way but it just flat doesn't work.

Um, a news flash for you, Skeptic ---- the vast majority of the world's population lives far worse than I do.  And unlike me, they DON'T do it by choice.

But you are indeed quite correct about one thing --- the only way to KEEP them living that way is indeed through totalitarianism.

I have a feeling, though, that they will object to that.  And since they outnumber you a few million to one, I'm pretty sure who's going to win.

Lenny,

The ones who will win are the educated ones. Whichever those may be.

I think you miss my point . . . .

No. I get it. Give me a pittle bit of technology and i win. End of story. Numbers matter not. Other than for very short anger moments where they kill a bunch of corrupt leaders. A new crop pops right up. The educated  group always wins in the long run. Since it's relative (education levels) it just means the top 10 or 5 or 1% of the ambitious people who get educated win. It's not that it's right, it's that it's reality.

I've read Marx but I've also read Weber, Locke, Montesquieu (sp?), Blake (whom I consider equally as profound :)) Mill and many others and I live in the world where people try to make other people play fair and sometimes they don't. And remember, C is average.

Not that I give a damn, but well over half of humanity is stupid to the point that they would die left alone.

My cynicism is born of dealing with the public.

The masses are stupid, weak, wrong, and gullible. They don't spontaneously do anything but fart.

Hmmm. Did I say that?

I went fishing this weekend, you'll have to excuse me.

Good post - and I have the party hats ready for your 1000th. All that being said, I think within humanity there is enormous potential*. They are just waiting for a leader (me) to start the new enlightenment.

NOW ACCEPTING PAYPAL.

* This bit was serious.

Write a book call it "The Mammon Delusion", then create a pseudoscience based cult on some flimsy idea and sit back and count the dollars... everyone else is doing it.

Date: 2007/06/04 23:04:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 04 2007,20:58)
Antievolutionists don't want to get technical about "information", because what they really are talking about is "meaning". You can quantify the former, but the latter is tricky stuff. Shannon, Fisher, Kolmogorov, Chaitin, and various others have made information theory rigorous. The same rigor has not yet appeared for "meaning theory".

Dont forget AirArse Daves definition of information....er a quotemined version that 'proves' Shannon et al Information is subjective.

Date: 2007/06/05 04:15:23, Link
Author: k.e..
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm the seattle area.....my favorite bit!!!!

Date: 2007/06/05 04:17:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Tell me RO ....do you deliberatly act like a dickhead or does it just come naturally?

Date: 2007/07/18 08:28:43, Link
Author: k.e.
OK YOU HOMOOS, I'M BACK.
I SSSEE DT IS STILL A WALLABY SHORT OF A MOB AND RTH IS STILL .....WELL..... WASTING HIS TALENTS, HE SHOULD BE IN THE VEGITARIAN SECTION OF CIRC DE SOLEIL, PERFORMING TRICKS WITH CUMCUMBERS.
MEANWHILE LOUIS (DRUNKENLY) MEANDERS FROM BEDPOSTE TO PILLAR WITH A FRENCH LETTER, ARISTOCRATIC SWINE. aRDEN, ARDEN, ARDEN, WHAT CAN i SAY? ....IT'S PROBABLY NOT TRANSLATEABLE TO WESTERN IBERIAN. CHRISTINE..... YOU PERSON, DO WE DESERVE YOU? CAVEMAN...SHAVE. LENNY, THE GIRLS IN PNG WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOU ARE COMING.
THATS ALL FOR NOW, SILLYVISATION IS TOO MUCH AT THE MOMENT.

Date: 2007/11/26 06:07:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Kristine
Quote
BA77 is beginning to sound like Shirley MacLaine.


Oh, so she's been there before? ....again.

Hello all.... I'm BACK!!!!


Ecce ego

Date: 2007/11/26 07:49:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 26 2007,06:47)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 26 2007,07:07)
Kristine
 
Quote
BA77 is beginning to sound like Shirley MacLaine.


Oh, so she's been there before? ....again.

Hello all.... I'm BACK!!!!


Ecce ego

Well, hell's bells, YOU reintarnated. Why can't Shirley?

Shirley was at Waterloo don'tchaknow ......oh and don't call me Shirley.

No penis gourd for Louis sorry, the Seventh Day Adventists banned them where I was...talk about false gods.

Sorry about the sock, my old monicker is tied to an old email address.

Off to the spice islands next week, to a heady mixture of Pepper, Cloves, Animism, Oligarchies and Minerets. I'll be inspecting a little of this thread to see if you all have been up to your usual standards.

Ecce ego sum homo

Date: 2007/11/27 19:16:06, Link
Author: k.e..
WHAT? WHEN ARE YOU HOMO'S GOING TO WAKE UP? I HAVE AN ORTHOG-AN-IJINAL PATENT ON NANO SELF BOOTING AUTOMATIC CELLULAR TRANS-ZERO-QUANTUM-ENERGY GRAVITY WAVE POWERED NOTHING UP MY SLEEVES, DESIGNER PULLS IT OUT OF HIS ARSE, FLAGELLATION FIELD PROGRAMABLE CHAINSAWS. MY DOGS HAVE TO WEAR EAR MUFFS WHEN THAT THING STARTS UP. THE SHERIFF CAME BY THE OTHER DAY TO HAVE A LOOK, NOW HE'S SANS-SERIF. I CRACK ME UP SOMETIMES. dt OH AND I DIDED THAT INDEPENDENTLY

Date: 2007/11/27 19:22:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 27 2007,19:19)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 27 2007,20:16)
WHAT? WHEN ARE YOU HOMO'S GOING TO WAKE UP? I HAVE AN ORTHOG-AN-IJINAL PATENT ON NANO SELF BOOTING AUTOMATIC CELLULAR TRANS-ZERO-QUANTUM-ENERGY GRAVITY WAVE POWERED NOTHING UP MY SLEEVES, DESIGNER PULLS IT OUT OF HIS ARSE, FLAGELLATION FIELD PROGRAMABLE CHAINSAWS. MY DOGS HAVE TO WEAR EAR MUFFS WHEN THAT THING STARTS UP. THE SHERIFF CAME BY THE OTHER DAY TO HAVE A LOOK, NOW HE'S SANS-SERIF. I CRACK ME UP SOMETIMES. dt

Where's a captive-bolt stun gun when you need one? Damn.

A slow clap would do ........BASTARD!!!!

Date: 2007/11/27 19:29:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 27 2007,19:24)
k.e.., you've been gone so long, your total number of posts has gone down!

Yes but I still hold the record number on deaths on the local quake server (which I haven't played for almost 10 years) thrrrp nullnullnull

Date: 2007/11/27 20:27:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 27 2007,19:37)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 27 2007,19:29)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 27 2007,19:24)
k.e.., you've been gone so long, your total number of posts has gone down!

Yes but I still hold the record number on deaths on the local quake server (which I haven't played for almost 10 years) thrrrp nullnullnull

k.e.., is there something you would like to tell us?

look this is the honest truth, they had a pet Cassowary which ate those things. Man it was funny looking at it jump at its own shadow and THE SUN wasn't even out.
Those Wallace Line freaks can buy a woman over there ya know

Date: 2007/11/27 20:29:53, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 27 2007,19:34)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 27 2007,20:22)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 27 2007,19:19)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 27 2007,20:16)
WHAT? WHEN ARE YOU HOMO'S GOING TO WAKE UP? I HAVE AN ORTHOG-AN-IJINAL PATENT ON NANO SELF BOOTING AUTOMATIC CELLULAR TRANS-ZERO-QUANTUM-ENERGY GRAVITY WAVE POWERED NOTHING UP MY SLEEVES, DESIGNER PULLS IT OUT OF HIS ARSE, FLAGELLATION FIELD PROGRAMABLE CHAINSAWS. MY DOGS HAVE TO WEAR EAR MUFFS WHEN THAT THING STARTS UP. THE SHERIFF CAME BY THE OTHER DAY TO HAVE A LOOK, NOW HE'S SANS-SERIF. I CRACK ME UP SOMETIMES. dt

Where's a captive-bolt stun gun when you need one? Damn.

A slow clap would do ........BASTARD!!!!

Would "No Country for Old Men" work with some guy giving the slow clap to unsuspecting victims? Kinda attenuates that sense of menace.

oooooooohhhhhhh menace me.
erm....i'll have to try that line sometime.

Date: 2007/11/28 05:02:30, Link
Author: k.e..
You know, there used to be a word that described that sort of thing.

Facist lying bastard.

dang 3 words

Date: 2007/11/28 05:06:00, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 24 2007,12:08)
Quote (snoeman @ Nov. 24 2007,11:43)
The Seattle Times had a reprint of an article from the Wall Street Journal about the backlash in some religious communities against the practice of tithing.

Link  to original WSJ article.

I was taken aback at one passage:
       
Quote
Steve Sorensen, director of pastoral ministries at Cornerstone, says the church requires its paid and volunteer leaders to tithe, and teaches new members to do so, although it doesn't make them show proof of income. "When you tithe, God makes promises to us, that he ... is not going to let anything bad or destructive come about," says Mr. Sorensen. For those who don't tithe, he says the Lord "is not obligated to do those things for you."
(Bold emphasis mine.)

Effectively, Steve Sorensen seems to suggest that God runs a protection racket.  :O

God: "Nice little household you have here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it."

the good Revs need plenty to keep up the gay meth habit or whatever else tickles their fancy.

Didn't AFDAVE's Rev like buying swamps?

Date: 2007/11/28 05:27:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
[Austin]
Yeah, Baby!
[/Austin]



Bill you RTH and FTK should get a room I think she's up for it.

oooohhhh I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT BIG and two of them <giggle>

Date: 2007/11/28 05:39:27, Link
Author: k.e..
And all this time Alan I thought you were a cold heartless snob.
( For any IDists reading this ..........IT'S CALLED IRONY)

Date: 2007/11/28 05:59:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 28 2007,05:55)
The DI hangs out Dr Dr Dr Dembski to dry
 
Quote
Discovery Institute played no role whatever in the use, alteration, or dissemination of any animation clip from Harvard that our esteemed colleague may have included in some of his lectures. When we first learned several weeks ago that someone had concerns about Dr. Dembski’s occasional use of this particular clip, we contacted Dr. Dembski directly, and he told us that he had stopped using the material as soon as these concerns had been raised with him.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007....ou.html

kilpwned.

With friends like that who needs enemies.

What hapened to 'the devil made me do it'?

Date: 2007/11/28 08:16:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
They used transcripts of the case in the reenactments. How is it in any way "fake"? The mind boggles.


"Fake" as in the actors were all Jewish Gay Black  Married Homosexual  Secular Green Comunists i.e. non old fat sexually frustrated white men,isn't that obvious?

Date: 2007/11/29 09:25:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Are post modernists fascists? a review of
Richard Wolin The Seduction of Unreason: The Intellectual Romance with Fascism from Nietzsche to Postmodernism,

Date: 2007/11/30 08:32:55, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 30 2007,08:08)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 30 2007,07:49)
DaveTard, master of the obvious, notes the following world shaking factoid
 
Quote
The sun has been shining on the earth for billions of years. Yet things like books, cars, highways, and computers didn’t form from the energy of the sun alone. Not until intelligent agency entered the scene did those things come to be.

Uh...is Davetard trying to say that designed things weren't on Earth before humans?

Nup, Dave thinks Michael Dell is god.

And since DSSpringher knows that he himself created the Dell phenomenon (due to his patent) without anything else having any other creative input ...dog must have acted through Mr. D (the clownhater) Spring to make Mr M.Dell the messiah.

Look here's how it works.

Ford (bless the T) creates a car, therefore Ford is god..got it? write that down.

Still not convinced?  OK,  one whore try.


Hitler created the Burmuda triangle because he didn't like polygons....and polygons are the work of the devil just look at the Star of David.

I rest my case ..send any spare money to Jesusisthemesiah, Ruzenstrass Wintergarter No.8. Frausmackerville Texas.

Any 'donations' before the next Republican 'debate' will win a genuine WW3 "Gott Mit Uns" belt buckle.

Date: 2007/12/03 08:29:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Poll finds more Americans believe in devil than Darwin

Present company accepted but proof that Republican Born Agains are uneducated AND believers in Ghosts etc A backwash pool of the stupidest people on Earth.

Dave Scott and Dr. Dr. Sloppy Theology must be proud.

Date: 2007/12/04 10:06:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 04 2007,09:38)
Yay - DaveTard's back!

http://www.uncommondescent.com/the-des....-153288

(triple billing of Tard)


Thankyou RTH.
DT's brain has definitely turned to mush.

[offstage] Dave Tard......looks in mirror and sees a thin man half his age whose memory is capable of remembering both the premise and conclusion of a fart .....then falls in love.



From the master mushroom herder hisself....

   
Quote
Maya

ID predicts that no evolution of complex structures will occur by chance & necessity within the temporal and geographical constraints imposed by the earth due to the statistical improbabilities involved.
.
..
Blah blah blah...
(solipsistic wank removed )


....A theory that explains everything explains nothing.


Yes of course dt ....and vice versa

Date: 2007/12/04 19:30:06, Link
Author: k.e..
*****added in edit

I agree with dWeeble.

As well making fun of teh Designer, mocking puppets just make Design-istians look foolish.

St. Santa warned his elves about that ya know.

Design-istians have always been persecuted for their faith farce and as long as Materialists Anti-Magicians continue to point and say "look at the hands and not the eyes" then spoilsports all over the world will make children cry and young mothers sleepless.

*********added in edit

As far as complaining about editing rights I for one hope, no I pray, that the Designer is a Calvinist.

That way DH will always get 'whatever' right without his own mind needing to reflect on what thoughts actually are...the product of a mammal and not the result of say an above cloud telepathy dude who some claim mentored/wrote/inspired/transcribed/dictated/faxed/mental-mailed/spake/non-kinetic pantographed/goddled/bribed/impounded/shipped/coerced/intimidated/carved/threw/apprenticed/obligated/imagined/atmospherically extruded/dexterously non-dextered/halucinated/ghostley spirited/ufo-ed/remote controlled whole armfuls of Gideon’s proofs onto the tables of a few prepuceless post diluvian scribes in the Levant*.

*actually edited

Date: 2007/12/05 04:44:25, Link
Author: k.e..
ALL RIGHT YOU GUYS THAT'S ENOUGH DENZE BASHING FOR ONE DAY!!
JUST BECAUSE I SAID SHE HAD A FACE LIKE A  ROBBERS DYKE DOG, DOESN'T GIVE YOU CART BLANC TO PILE ON UNLESS YOU BOTTOM. giggle ...that's ma fav word
NOW IT'S REASONABLE TO SUGGEST SHE IS A POXY (sic) BANNER, BUT LET'S ACCEPT IT, SHE HAS THE FACE TO LAUNCH A THOUSAND SINGLE SEX MARRIED DREDGES .....SO STOP REPEATING THE OBVIOUS AND HIS BILL-NESS NEEDS THE X-PROMOTION THAT WAS WHAT I AGREED TO WHEN I CAME BACK TO UD. AND I'M SICK OF YOU GUYS REMINDING ME. dt.

*HOMOS'7Z

*added in edit

Date: 2007/12/05 08:01:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Dr.GH @ Dec. 05 2007,07:49)
Quote (Altabin @ Dec. 04 2007,18:59)
D@mn, I missed this; MacT quoting Luskin's piece on the Gonzalez tenure case:
 
Quote


From the full article:
“Dr. Gonzalez is not teaching intelligent design in classes. The majority of his research is based on astronomy and cosmology. He has stellar reputation as cosmologist and astrologer. Why wouldn’t you want a great scientist like that on your staff?” Luskin said.

A “stellar reputation as” . . . an astrologer?

That's too funny.

Luskin is obviously following the direction of Prof. Mike Behe, who admitted under oath that ID creationism was "scienec" to the same extent as astrology. (Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District Trial transcript: Day 11 (October 18), PM Session, Part 1) (Linked with my name above).

He also admitted god might be dead.

Which would have jesus spinning in his grave...... if either had ever lived.

Kind of gives new life to the resurection doesn't it?

If god can't get it up again (according to Behe) then where does that leave Cosmic Viagra? Over to you Khrisna ...you beaver loving resurector.

Date: 2007/12/05 21:40:47, Link
Author: k.e..
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Date: 2007/12/06 19:38:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Haiku Smaiku....this calls for a full on Broadway Musical EXTRAVAGANZA!!!!!8

Opening TODAY on AtBC "The Sound of Dembski" a new hit musical breaking the second law of box office.

My Favorite Things


Snowflakes of complex and Dr. Me on dogmas
Dull keyboard antics and tard turds on monitors
Culture wars on Amazon demanding deletions
These are a few of my favorite things

Long silence to questions by bright spark antagonists
Shovelling of shit at great speed for a twit
Banination by proxy of all that is good
These are a few of my favorite things

Giving bone headed lectures to teh stupids on cool aid
Emailing my enemies with threats of an outing
Eating crow pie with my DI lawyer cronies
These are a few of my favorite things

My Angels in blanc spaces (with tight frilly knickers)
Breathtaking inanity the mantra of tard
Six pieces of silver for lying for god
These are a few of my favorite things

When the DI lies
When the Judge bars
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad

(Oh and ...Drinking your single malt Scotch Whiskey
The one that I promised you
Into a stupor I find that helps too
These are a few of my favorite things)

[Repeat all verses]

Don't clap just send money

*Who the F*** is ED?

Date: 2007/12/07 07:21:01, Link
Author: k.e..
DWeeble…

Yawn, just because Kwok didn't wade through all the drivel quote specific points and present a 'peer review' doesn't mean he didn't 'read' the book. You are assuming he didn't read it because his review was more an editorial opinion piece and that Dembski might be his peer. So be it, he considers his opinion can be 'taken as read' which might seem arrogant but let's cut to the chase.

If a review has to be a critical assessment as one would make of something discovered en nouveaux such as a man dressed for the pulpit might make discovering what could be mistaken for an alien timepiece on heath outside his church, then fair enough that would be cause for an extended toying with the full gamut of the theocratic mind, sacred texts could be quoted for instance. However if that item happened instead to be a common everyday dog turd then why go into a paroxysm of prolix to deliver the fact that it was a dog turd.

You're seemed wish is to apply the worst aspect of conservative anti realist postmodernist namby pambying. That is that all ideas are of equal worth no matter what the consequences such that in order to avoid offending the weak sensibilities of the intellectually challenged and socially privileged spinsters of the revolution you toss the graciousness out with gritty innuendo. Further, delivering a respectful analysis of the consistency and general demeanor of said turd simply degrades the reviewer.

Has the core of your society been so overwhelmed by a Prozacian miasma that calling a spade a spade is creates a cold shudder. I for one hope so, today not enough Iraqis are being tortured and killed in the name of cheap oil for your citizen’s divine right to the pursuit of pleasure.

Before jumping to conclusions why not get Kwok to confirm he did indeed commit your fraud.

Date: 2007/12/07 08:22:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Again that is an assumption.

To be more accurate I think it’s a little piece of Dembski’s propaganda, an appeal to the 'fair minded' idiot.

This whole episode has a distinctly Orwellian or Kafka-esque demeanor

Date: 2007/12/07 08:44:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Or not, just in case some twit get's his knickers twisted.

Date: 2007/12/07 09:01:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Geez DM yr a devilish good looking brute

Date: 2007/12/08 04:26:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
I bet I could read Nietzsche aloud in church, right?


"Gott ist tot" - Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead" - God
"Nietzsche is God" - Foucault

Date: 2007/12/08 09:40:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 08 2007,08:35)
 
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 08 2007,09:11)
And Morton's dismantling can't help but leave a mark. Ouch.

 
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Dave, everyone is correct about you. You make Christianity look like it is only for used car salesmen.


that pretty much sums up AFDave.

Choice thanks for the link guys

And further...... Mr. Bananas in the Differential.

 
Quote

 
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(Car sales Dave)
You must not have read me carefully. Of course they are not all escape burrows. Are those shrimp burrows escape burrows? No, they are not. Why would many burrows NOT be lined with feces?
(Morton)
Because unless those worms had a severe case of diarrhea, they couldn't excrete such quantities of crap so quickly. But I see you can do what they can't.


Thanks Dave, once again you and all your YEC friends show the whole world just how insane you all really are.

Date: 2007/12/08 19:58:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Hermagoras @ Dec. 08 2007,13:55)
BarryA is annoyed by getawitness:
   
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You’re just mad because you can no longer indulge your postmodernist compulsion to wallow in factual incoherence and never resolve anything. If you are repulsed by clarity, you are free not to participate.

*snip

Woa that's some projection power Barry is using, he lit up the whole wall of his dark little basement.

With that brilliant mind  if he ever gets out the door the entire academic establishment is going to be begging for his pearls .....or he'll scare  the neighbors dog ......or something.

Date: 2007/12/08 23:46:35, Link
Author: k.e..
OK everyone I'm off to the spice Islands for a few weeks.
50km North of the equator so it should be cooler but more humid than Perth at the moment.
Halmahera Island in Indonesia, look it up on Wikipedia if you are interested.

So I won't be posting for a few weeks.

I hope to get into the local customs including betel nut, clove cigarettes and the viscious religious wars between the two competing major imports Xanity and Sufism ...oh strike that last one......when in Rome never act like an American.

Looks like it won't be as interesting as the Trobriand Islands also known as the Love Islands for some rather novel customs they have. Which look like they probably are  tied up with their world view that seems to have a parallel with the denizens of Dembski's freak castle.

This from Wiki:
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Although an understanding of reproduction and modern medicine is widespread in Trobriand Society, their traditional beliefs have been remarkably resilient, and the idea that in order to become pregnant women must be infused with spirits from the nearby island of Tuma (where people's spirits go after they die) is still a part of the Trobriand worldview. In the past, many held this traditional belief because the yam, a major food of the island, included chemicals (phytoestrogens and plant sterols) whose effects are contraceptive, so the practical link between sex and pregnancy was not very evident.[1]

"The Trobrianders.. whose culture traces family lineage through mothers rather than fathers." [Eds.] "The Trobrianders eat alone, retiring to their own hearths with their portions, turning their backs on one another and eating rapidly for fear of being observed." (Both quotes from an excerpt from Jenefer Shute's 1992 novel Life-Size in the book, Open Questions.)

Particularly interesting and unique to the Trobriand Islands are the linguistic aspect of the indigenous language, Kilivila. Dorothy D. Lee's scholarly writings, drawing upon earlier work by Bronislaw Malinowski refer to "non-lineal codifications of reality." In such a linguistic system, the concept of linear progress of time, geometric shapes, and even conventional methods of description are lost altogether or altered. In her example of a specific indigenous yam, Lee explains that when the yam moves from a state of sprouting to ripeness to over-ripeness, the name for each object in a specific state changes entirely. This is because the description of the object at different states of development are perceived as wholly different objects. Ripeness is considered a "defining ingredient" and thus once it becomes over-ripe, it is a new object altogether. The same perception pertains to time and geometric shapes.



bye for now except RTH because he's everywhere

Date: 2008/01/09 01:12:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 08 2008,23:44)
I'm in ATL tomorrow night if any of you shoitehawks want a beer.

...>>>>phhhhhht>>

If anyone is at the Weda Bay Yatch Club front porch of the exploration camp on Pulau Halmahera in the Maluku Is. group, Indonesia  tonight the beer is free .....only one thing .....bring women!

Date: 2008/01/09 02:14:14, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (KARobinson @ Jan. 08 2008,21:27)
Sorry I haven't replied lately, but I have been very busy both with my job and personal life.  In fact, yesterday, as you may have heard, a tornado passed through Kenosha and came within half a block of hitting my house.  However, my church was not so fortunate.  The tornado damaged much of the church, and things have been a little crazy around here.  (Please no jokes or comments about the church getting hit.)

I should have time within the next couple of days to give a proper reply.  Thanks for your patience.

No jokes about the church getting "hit"........Of course not the big cheese would be just a joke if a church got hit..... right? What was He thinking, you must be wondering? You don't have any outstanding debts with Him do you?

Just as a matter of interest do you believe in the Devil?

And wouldn't that be the "logical" explanation for the church getting "hit".

Please help me correct my logic here Mr K.

Date: 2008/01/09 08:43:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richard Simons @ Jan. 09 2008,08:34)
I am far from being a lawyer, but it seems to me that at present they have merely expressed an opinion that probably violates the requirements for the separation of the church and the state in a way that most people likely regard as not court-worthy. If they continue in what they consider a logical fashion, at what point would they be doing something that would open themselves up to being taken to court?

When they discover that god isn't from Florida?
But just only pays his rates in some yuppy slum there.

Lenny I suspect has 5 lesbians amusing his longboat in another state that doesn't have Louis in it.

Date: 2008/01/09 08:57:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 09 2008,08:42)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 09 2008,00:06)
Barry is not an astronomer:      
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We have gone into space and actually observed the earth orbiting the sun.

Not really.  We get no better view of the earth orbiting the sun from space than we do on earth.  The first real confirmation of the Copernican theory was obtained shortly after WW-II when radars powerful enough to bounce radio waves off of Venus and Mars finally gave us the three dimensional data necessary for us to say, positively, that the earth is orbiting the sun.  

Since that day, observations from very distant space probes may have given us further confirmation, but I'm not aware of any being used for such purposes.

Barry has a few other epistemological problems as well:    
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New data arose (for example, it is now generally accepted that the fossil does not support gradualism in the way Darwin envisioned), and ad hoc adjustments to the theory have been made (e.g., punctuated equilibrium).

CeilingCat, don't you know that the planets trace out little brightly-colored ellipses, just like on all those PBS shows? ;) You go into space and see the orbits. Oh, and that grid that represents the curvature of space-time itself? It's really out there, too. :D That's how astronomers find black holes - they look for the drain!

BarryââÅ watched Nova and saw the nifty graphics. Thought they were real. Maybe these guys saw those old 1950s cartoons that featured little men running the body like a factory and that they were real, too.

OK Kristine I've been meaning to call you out on some of your stuff for a long, long time ......is there a country we can meet in?

I'm Thinking Kyrgyzstan its exotic out of the way and nobody has to know.

I thought about replying to our young chum who thought that only since the discovery of reflections produced by humans our solar system was a proven fact.

Thankyou.

Date: 2008/01/09 09:01:46, Link
Author: k.e..
ooooooh hornblower

Date: 2008/01/09 09:08:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 09 2008,08:56)
Louis Arden and Lenny were all kidnapped by k.e.. who has popped in to establish an alibis.

actually they weren't kidnapped it was very willing, as they are starting a big gay archipelago in the south pacific replete with fruity drinks and fruity dinks, down to a man.  2 more islands to a Whorum!

BASTARD!!!!!! How did you find out?

I did however take a prophylactic for the position I now find myself in.... 6 days in a retreat for wayward nymphomaniacs .....but it's wearing off.

The kitchen boys are going to get me if I don't escape to an island of intense sin in the next week.

HELP!!!!!

Date: 2008/01/10 06:55:15, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 10 2008,05:37)


Let's try to keep in the general vicinity of the topic and hang on to a modicum of decorum in this thread.

There's as yet no reason for hostilities to break out in full force here.

How very post modern.

No reality is invalid and every idea deserves equal time.

You lou are part of the problem.

Consider how in various cultures the most obscene acts of indifference create a system where each member of society is there not as a consequence of their own doing but because the world view under which they are subservient to determins it for them.

Case in point cretonism in what many consider to be the worlds most advanced nation.

Stand up and be counted.

Twit.

Date: 2008/01/10 18:14:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Kristine said

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(I'm beginning to think that ID creationism is some kind of waking-dream state.)


Indeed a magical reality where magic provides a somatic miasma in each soldier for the cause which in this case seems to be Christ as a robust capitalist with imperial overtones.

It wouldn't matter too much except the unaccecptable becomes the new norm and you won't know your living in a facist theocracy until after the next election.

Date: 2008/01/10 18:24:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 10 2008,11:42)
I think k.e. is having trouble adjusting his tone to the board.  Poor lad, he's probably only been talking to Australians recently.

Bob

I just get pissed off with dishonesty.

Instead of dancing around the issue as I see it of professor whatshisnames Imanic credentials (Keith Robinson ) which makes him 'oh such a nice guy'.

Why bother?

He's a fool and a lying turd who doesn't deserve an ounce of oxygen.

All I have shown is how that shit survives because no one wants to take responsiblity and good people say nothing.


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Date: 2008/01/11 09:06:02, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (tsig @ Jan. 10 2008,22:46)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Jan. 09 2008,12:18)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Jan. 09 2008,12:13)
 
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 09 2008,11:57)
DT contemplates the force of gravity again, and ends with this attempt to read the mind of God.          
Quote
Now let’s go a little farther to where I part company with the absolute material reductionists. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that you’re a creator of universes and the physical laws therein. You’re omniscient and omnipotent. You set the wheels turning knowing the exact path of every particle. There would be no surprises at all. That’s kind of boring isn’t it? Like watching paint dry. I’d go crazy if there were absolutly nothing I didn’t know about the entire universe past, present, and future. So the creator figures out a way to end the boredom. He crafts the universe so it eventually produces intelligent agents with free will. Determinism ends where the free will of “rational” man begins. We’re the wild card that keeps the creator of the universe from going bonkers due to knowing too much. We’re the only thing that makes the universe interesting for an otherwise omniscient entity.

How’s that for a philosophy? It’s unique to me as far as I know but that’s probably only due to my ignorance of philosophy and religion. Someone else, perhaps many others, might have surmised that the free will of rational man is the only non-deterministic thing in the universe and that it was intentionally invented to keep an otherwise deterministic universe full of surprises for someone that knows absolutely everything else about it.

We're here because it would be boring for the Telic Entity otherwise...

Physics? Math? Philosophy? Mind-reading?  Dave covers it all!

This is dumb beyond words.  How did god (aka space lizard) fill his time during the first couple billion years prior to man showing up on the scene?  

That's an awful long time to watch the paint dry, especially with no football to watch on the weekends.

This is what's so cool about IDC, the more you talk about it, the more you contemplate it, the more you debate its merits, the dumber it looks.

edit because people who edit are cool:

Another thing, it looks like the UD tards are finally getting around to identifying ther traits of the intelligent designer (space lizard god):

He/she/it is omniscient
He/she/it is omnipotent
He/she/it is easily bored
He/she/it does not like watching the paint dry
He/she/it therefore creates things to entertain himself to relieve the boredom

You know, if I were the god/lizard I would have created myself a hot babe in a tight skirt and called it a day.  to hell with humanity, dinosaurs and cells, I want to kill my boredom with a hot chick for all eternity.

I could worship your god

Could?


GET ON WITH IT NOW!

Date: 2008/01/11 09:10:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 10 2008,13:09)
A great comment from Q:
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Since the possibility that portions of the process are possible, the “incredulity” argument is quite weakened. Obviousness is lost. A more refined argument is needed to demonstrate that that which is possible actually becomes that which is not possible. In other words, incredulity has limits.

ROFLMAO!!1!!  Thank you, DaveT!

Limits?

Dr Dr Berlinski Berlinski Where are you?

Date: 2008/01/11 22:36:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 11 2008,16:33)
I never read much Yeats.

Oh, dammit! Damn, dang, dang!  :angry:  I wanted to see that.

I never read Much Yeats too .....

*not edited because I didn't want to and nobody can make me.

Date: 2008/01/11 22:57:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 11 2008,21:06)
well, what are some other good'uns?

they changed the world magazine blog format around and now it sucks.  used to be one of my favorite fundie sites, you could count on good back and forth with some of the regulars (and a few incipient conversions!!!!).  now it blows goats.  both figuratively and literally.  and littorally too.

i used to troll an acoustic musician forum, but it got old poking all those 'jesus invented bluegrass music' folks.  

the stubborn arrogant ignorance of kairosfocus makes me want to physically beat him, and that is not a healthy sentiment to have when enjoying teh internetz.  i'd appreciate more diversions.

How about getting Mr. Midnight flourescent tat'tooed and then swimming with mermaids at night?...er if he isn't already?...ooops wrong forum dats 'sposed be sms'ed to the fish tank.

Date: 2008/01/13 07:54:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Jan. 13 2008,05:40)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 13 2008,01:40)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Jan. 12 2008,23:05)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 12 2008,22:03)
I'm in Austin Sunday / Monday if any of you shoitehawks want a beer.

Right state, wrong city, ya limey bastard.  I'm going to be in Longview.  I will hoist a Lone Star in your general direction though.  

Say hi to Dave for us all.

If he sets his attack dogs on me, I will bring out my clown shoes!

you more DFWish?

If I was flying, I would be changing flights in DFW.  As it is, it will actually take less time for me to drive there.  So,that is what I will be doing.  I promise I won't give the finger to planes flying overhead if you promise not to flush.

Yeah right...

I've seen the pictures he has of you with horses.

Date: 2008/02/14 21:56:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Hermagoras @ Feb. 14 2008,21:11)
Quote (J. O'Donnell @ Feb. 14 2008,20:42)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 14 2008,17:10)
Two davetard meltdowns in less than 24 hours

Two deleted/locked threads at UD in less than 24 hours (due to davetard's tardic behaviour)

1 UD tard fight that included davetard and DLH

Have we struck davetard gold this week or what? I wonder if he's trying some new medication or something.

I appear to have missed the tard fight between Davetard and DLH, what exactly transpired?

DaveTard is a vegetarian animal-lover, or something.  And so kind of defended PETA.  I think.  Mapou called him an asshole.  DLH said some other stuff.  It was all too stupid to read.  And now it's lost forever (sniff sniff).  

DaveTard was odd throughout but strangely, I felt for him.  It was one of the few moments when he didn't fit the stereotype I've built for him.

OK U HOMOS LISTEN UP. I CAN FIX ANY STEREOTYPE U GOT. THE LAST ONE I HAD WAS ON MY OUTBOARD MOTOR WHICH SEIZED WHEN MY DOG GOT HIS TAIL STUCK IN IT. MY MARINE TRAINING KICKED IN AND I STUCK TWO FINGERS IN ITS RUBINESQUE AND THAT PUPPY WAS FREE IN LESS TIME THAN IT TOOK ME TO CUSS UP AN A BEER IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. I'LL BET U HAVEN'T BEEN TO HAWAII HAVE U? WELL I SAILED MY HOUSEBOAT THERE ONCE WITH MY WIFE'S RICE STEAMING FRIENDS  AS CREW. BOY WAS THAT A GOOD TIME .....THEY DIDN'T LET ME OUT OF THE HEAD FOR THE WHOLE TRIP BUT I KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING UP TO....IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SPEAKING OF WHICH I WAS DREAMING ABOUT JANIEBELL AND LOU THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS CHAINSAWING AN ARK OUT OF A REDWOOD, WHEN IT OCCURED TO ME THAT LOU MUST BE GAY BECAUSE I LOVED HIM...OR SOMETHING. ANYWAY GOTTA GO, MY BANNING FINGER IS GETTING ITCHY I THINK I'LL FIND A DYKE TO SCRATCH IT ON........JEEZ I KILL ME SOMETIMES

Date: 2008/02/14 22:04:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Nomad @ Feb. 14 2008,17:51)
I can't imagine T-rex mating was very elegant.  I'm picturing the male falling off a few times before getting correctly positioned.
....

I used to have that problem too. I recommend super glue.

Date: 2008/02/14 22:13:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Hi Erasmus ....erm too long in the bushes. I've been having far too much fun. Been on a break all over South East Asia and now back on Halmahera to finish a job, so half decent internet access...and actual underused free time to catch up.

Still trying to track down RTH's fun with D'tard mentioned earlier, is there a quick link?

Date: 2008/02/14 22:54:54, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 14 2008,22:16)
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 14 2008,22:13)
Hi Erasmus ....erm too long in the bushes. I've been having far too much fun. Been on a break all over South East Asia and now back on Halmahera to finish a job, so half decent internet access...and actual underused free time to catch up.

Still trying to track down RTH's fun with D'tard mentioned earlier, is there a quick link?

It am here:

http://ptet.blogspot.com/2008....st.html

WHAT'S A WORD THAT SOUNDS THE SAME BUT IS SPELT DIFFERENT? HOMOBONE!!!! ILMASOFF

Dave u old bone tosser. U r one class act.

I know some lady boys who could toss ur bone better than u can, give it a try.

PM me and i'll set u up.

*he obviously couldn't find a lesbian in fit, supressed homo he be.

Date: 2008/02/15 00:03:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 14 2008,23:40)
Gil (like Dave) thinks AI = Brute force search.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/compute....re-3064

He should perhaps pick up an AI book written in the last 10 years.

Forget AI maybe he should find out what "information" is in the first place.

He seems to think that the human mind is something separate from the human body and that one of his thoughts (I know as frightening as that 'thought' may be, Gils brain probably fools him into thinking he actually has some worth wasting on us poor slobs) may actually grok the fact that he isn't concious his brain controls his digestion.

He considers his personal definition/delusion of what information might actually be is useful beyond limits of his basement.

As a yardstick it's furlongs behind the eight ball.

Gil's purile unadulterated humourless tard sets a standard unlikely to be superceeded anytime soon, unless some idiot clones him.

Dave Tard please clean Gil's bus seat window the slobber is making him see double.

You're the driver right?

Date: 2008/02/15 00:34:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 14 2008,22:23)
if you have ever seen mallard ducks doing it, imagine dinosaurs a-going after it.

Yeah ?

I'll bet u r a on old fossil when it comes to that stuff.

I imagine a box of chocolats, purfume, some dance music and a bottle of Malibu Rum.

Oh and a single Red Rose since its Valintines Day......

I've handed out a virtual few today.

Date: 2008/02/15 01:44:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 15 2008,01:20)
Hey, Rich --

You're at 3,998 posts.  Will number 4,000 be a tardalogue?  A homologue?

NO IT WILL BE A BONE-ELOG.

Date: 2008/02/15 05:45:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Feb. 15 2008,02:32)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 14 2008,16:39)
 
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 14 2008,17:37)
I just posted there and invited them to join us here.  Let's hope someone from that blog speaks english.


AD is a member here, and he speaks English rather well.

That's me, but I'm no attorney. Please, don't connect me, in any way, Casebasket Luskin.

And I won't translate anything into Finnish or back to English until AtBC notpologises for calling my beautiful language "Moon-language".

OK NOTPOLYGY MOONLANG HOMO!!!

Date: 2008/02/15 05:49:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (PTET @ Feb. 15 2008,03:38)
Re: Colson Praises PETA - Darwin Worldview

 
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 14 2008,16:59)
I say I say is it me or did something awful funny just happen to that UD thread?


Don't worry guys.... My new mole within Uncommon Descent sent me a copy before it was deleted. I doubt I have the whole thing, but I do have Mapou calling Dave a psycho, etc.

Here it is:  Colson Praises PETA - Darwin Worldview

;)

AND YR POINT?

dTARD SMILING OVER YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER WITH HIS HAND ON HIS VENUS'

...... OR SALIVATING SAL BEING PUSHED OVERBOARD?

GEEZ SOME GUYS!!

Date: 2008/02/15 06:00:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Amadan @ Feb. 15 2008,05:00)
Quote (okboy @ Feb. 14 2008,17:22)
doh, i just got my first comment through moderation and the whole thread gets obliviated. i would have thought all that bible code training and thinking up acronyms would have made my hidden message easy to spot.

     
Quote
That's absolutely right. Don't they all realize? Do they all really deny that atheism = rigid dogma? Think about Richard Dawkins: he says the atheist's raison d'etre is to abolish religious doctrine, but they all revere darwin!


There ought to be a name for that sort of thing: a horizontal acrostic? Or, more elegantly, a WADScrot? Yes, I like the ring* of that. . .

Very nicely done, sir.

And remember kids, True Atheists Reject Darwin!





* ahem

AN NEMEBEREN TRUE SCOTSMEN R IRSIH ? DIS U CUM DN IN LTHE LASTEST TURNIP STOERMBERGER? KF ME GENTLY. ITS KIKE READING A N XWORD ZZSSLE. KNOW TRUE AETHIWHATZIT IZ TSAMZE FTK A BIRCH BURNIN DR.AGIN LADY WT A HARD ON. WHICH IF THERE WAZ EVER WAZ 1. UDBIT.HOMO

ok just kidding get back @ ur cubicle.

Date: 2008/02/15 06:03:25, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (PTET @ Feb. 15 2008,03:38)
Re: Colson Praises PETA - Darwin Worldview

 
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 14 2008,16:59)
I say I say is it me or did something awful funny just happen to that UD thread?


Don't worry guys.... My new mole within Uncommon Descent sent me a copy before it was deleted. I doubt I have the whole thing, but I do have Mapou calling Dave a psycho, etc.

Here it is:  Colson Praises PETA - Darwin Worldview

;)

OK I'LL TAKE ALL THAT BACK*

THEY PHOTOSHOPPED OUT THE PRAYING MARINES...BASTARDS.

Date: 2008/02/15 06:07:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Feb. 15 2008,06:04)
Thank you for not offering an apology, guys! That really helps. First, my post was pretty much the same as ZOMG's. With additional comments on how DaveTard is a gift that keeps on giving. "Squirrel" Hämäläinen joined to agree:

"Kuka tarvitsee ystäviä, kun on heidän kaltaisiaan vihollisia"?

*Translator-o-matic*

"Who needs friends, when one has enemies like these?"

That's about it. I'm thinking of founding the first International DaveTard Fan Club. Current roster = 1.

I THINK I LOVE U DO THE FINN'S MAKE CHAINSAWS?
WHAT IS YR NATIONAL BREED OF DOGS, R THY RUBINESQUE? HOMO!

Date: 2008/02/16 04:49:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 15 2008,17:07)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 15 2008,06:04)
During a visit to the mental asylum, a visitor asked the Director how do you determine whether or not a patient should be institutionalized.

"Well," said the Director, "we fill up a bathtub, then we offer a teaspoon, a teacup and a bucket to the patient and ask him or her to empty the bathtub."

"Oh, I understand," said the visitor "A normal person would use the bucket because it's bigger than the spoon or the teacup."

"No." said the Director, "A normal person would pull the plug. Do you want a bed near the window?"

Hero, I know Lenny didn't like you very much but I do. :D

I bought a couple of those retro-1950s fridge magnets from the museum shop today while on break. One shows a woman musing with her hand to her cheek, and it says, "Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints." ;)

Mmmmmmmmm restraints.....

Oh is that the time?..... must rush.

Date: 2008/02/16 04:53:38, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 15 2008,06:26)
I once saw four or five mallard drakes chasing another possibly younger drake around, all of them with meat a swinging and every man for his-self.  lard have mercy.

in my county some fool is trying to pass a law preventing k-8 references to homersexuality, i was wondering just what will they do about the ducks?

if a mallard ain't a good example of what's wrong with the world (just look what happened to them when they hit the depraved upside down bits of the ventral portion of the earth....  they just took and humped ever-thing) i dont know what it is.  

when all you have is a big purple throbber the whole world looks like a mole burrow full of water, right k.e..?

Only if its pink with not too much hair.

Anyway how do you manage mole burrows from your zimmer?

Date: 2008/02/16 05:04:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 16 2008,04:48)
Missing Person Bulletin

Subject:                  Arden Chatfield
Height:                   Unknown
Weight:                  Unknown
Hair:                       Unknown
Eyes:                      Unknown
Sexual Orientation:   Gay

Aliases:






...and several avian species.

When last seen, subject was in a confused state, recovering from a LOLcats binge and contemplating a move to Chicago:
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 04 2008,15:15)
           
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 04 2008,14:59)
Do you live a hippy surfing lifestyle, Tarden Chatterbox?

Yes. And I'm really getting sick of the mild weather, beaches, attractive people, culture, good food, and beautiful scenery. I'm thinking Chicago might be a good alternative.

His final exchange, suspiciously, was with one Kristine Harley:
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 05 2008,16:34)
           
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 05 2008,16:17)
Arden, I left you a book on your nighttable. Come ask if you have questions.

Um, I'm confused.

Authorities suspect the book in question may have been teh Bible.  They are seeking Ms. Harley for questioning.

Meanwhile, police are checking every snowdrift, flophouse, gay cruising spot and Jesus camp between San Francisco and Chicago for signs of Mr. Chatfield.

Those with information regarding Mr. Chatfield's whereabouts are urged to call Jenny at 867-5309.

U never know but he could be with Lenny on some tropical Island having the time of his life....but probably not.

I suspect he is reliving his teenage years by boring the pants off the waitress' in 24hr diners on Route 66 while on his way to Chicago and they are just too polite to ask him to leave.

Date: 2008/02/17 00:55:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 16 2008,19:34)
Quote (olegt @ Feb. 16 2008,20:28)
For a person who has spent a considerable amount of time at Dell, DaveT demonstrates a rather poor understanding of parallel processing:

Would it really shock anyone if it came to light that he was the guy in shipping that put the tape and labels on the boxes?

No, Mr. Dell used him to keep warm coffee on his desk it's on AtBC somewhere so it must be true.
Dt holds a patent, apparently, for it.

Date: 2008/02/23 01:27:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (1of63 @ Feb. 23 2008,00:35)
These are David Berlinski's idea of "embarrassing questions for science:

 
Quote
Has anyone provided a proof of God’s inexistence?

Has anyone provided a proof of God’s existence?

 
Quote
Not even close.

(Try 'burden of proof', dimwit)

 
Quote
Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here?

Has religion explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here?

 
Quote
Not even close.

(Note: "explained" means more than just saying 'an <expletive deity deleted> did it', dummy)

 
Quote
Have the sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life?

Have the religions explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life

 
Quote
Not even close.

(See previous)

 
Quote
Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought?

Are faith-heads willing to believe in anything so long as it does not contradict religious thought?

 
Quote
Close enough.

(Universe created out of nothing, talking snakes, parting of seas, water into wine, worldwide floods, raising from the dead, 72 virgins - or possibly grapes - yadda, yadda...)

 
Quote
Has rationalism in moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral?

Is there any rationalism in religious thought and, if there is, has it provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral?

 
Quote
Not close enough.

(Note: we're talking "rationalism" and "understanding"  here, not some god saying "Do what I tell you or you get an all-expenses-paid trip to the balmy tropical resort of Hell for all eternity".)

 
Quote
Has secularism in the terrible twentieth century been a force for good?

Has religion in any century been a force for good?

 
Quote
Not even close to being close.

(Softball.  I thought these were supposed to be embarrassing for science.)

 
Quote
Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy of thought and opinion within the sciences?

Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy of thought and opinion within the faiths?

 
Quote
Close enough.

(No way did he write that with a straight face)

 
Quote
Does anything in the sciences or in their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational?

Does anything in the faiths or in their philosophies justify the claim that religious belief is rational?

 
Quote
Not even ballpark.

(See talking snakes, 72 grapes, etc.)

 
Quote
Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt?

Is David Berlinski a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt?

 
Quote
Dead on.

(Exactly)

ooooh oooh my favourite Dr,Dr.

Mr. Berliski Berlinski!

The single handed adulterer and 'in a mirror' double act of Disco.

The master of the autointerview.

Ok .....fair enough there is no one in that empty afterdark teetotal throbbing pleasure cubicle, which is the envy of the Martian tourist industry, smart enough to ask him the questions he wants to answer.

So he had no choice but to probe himself relentlessly in search of the real persona behind the dull facade revealing to all the world a shallowness that knows no limits.

But really...reduced to UD tard style projection?


That man needs to see a Rabbi for another circumcision before it's too late, the first one didn't work and his hand is stuck in his brains prepuce.

It will serve two purposes
One: He can make a second blood payment to belong to the tribe ...even people with no money can join.

Two: The pain will remind him that thinking with his actual brain shouldn't hurt.

Date: 2008/02/23 09:24:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 23 2008,04:50)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 22 2008,19:50)
Quote
35 guests, 18 Public Members and 0 Anonymous Members   [ View Complete List ]
>Lou FCD >Annyday >Leonides >mitschlag >qetzal >Gunthernacus >cogzoid >C.J.O'Brien >olegt >Arden Chatfield >MillstoneCam >Albatrossity2 >Buy Cialis Online >Richardthughes >Occam's Aftershave >ppb >Mr_Christopher >Reciprocating Bill


It's like the board is trying to communicate with us:

 
Quote
Buy Cialis Online ---->Richardthughes


I wonder what it's trying to tell us...

I have always pondered on this issue. In my spam email I always get large amounts of mail offering ways for me to enlarge my penis, satisfy my wife with a monster wang and last forever in the sack with a variety of pharmaceuticals that moderate (amongst other things) a neurotransmitter or two. My question is "How do they know?".

Now of course with this latest evidence from Lou about RTH the pattern has become clear. They have no clue! (hence why they keep offering me Rolex watches when I don't wear a watch!)

I mean the juxtaposition of a virile creature like RTH and Cialis? Please! Dead giveaway. RTH would never touch Cialis, the very thought of it is ridiculous! RTH is a Viagra man through and through.

Louis

That would explain why he can't wear a condom ......there is no end to the prick.

Date: 2008/02/23 10:18:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 23 2008,02:21)
Quote
This is what happens when scientific theories become scientific dogma immune to contrary evidence and criticism by virtue of being uncontestable fact. It happened to Sigmund Freud’s theory,

What 'happened' to "Darwin's theory"? What was that theory again? Anyone knows?

..

fuck Dt is dribbling at the wheel again can anyone poke him with a stick before his head hits the dashboard.

Quote
It happened to Sigmund Freud’s theory,

----That little girls want to kill their mothers and marry daddy? ....ahem ..that is not a theory.

Or gambling is like masterbation?

You want to have a little wager on the demise of ToE Dt...Dt? Wake up now ....if your bus crashes 2 Eintstens will be killed.

Quote
it happened to Karl Marx’s theory

Which one Dt?

That Religion is the opiate of the masses?

You know opium makes you catatonic, dribble and fall asleep at the wheel...right?

Why didn't that great Modernist Nietzsche get a serve? God is dead?

Is that because he came after your Post Modernists?

Ecce fkn Homo Dt is there nothing you don't know sweet fk all about?

Bone tugger/thrower Dt finishes with that wonderful PM giveaway ....no fact is necessarily congruent with reality since reality can be anything you choose it to be.

Hence feminazism and post milenium yankee conservative religiuos crackpot  creationazism truly a PM project destined to succeed with the 2 Einstiens (guffaw) of UD.

Date: 2008/02/23 10:35:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Just so you all know I am now in Ftk's edit corner.

So my invective doesn't have the same perfect shine and is full of spelling errors.

Creation is a wonderful thing and creation of strident tard bashing always benefits from esprit d'escalier.

So thankyou Ftk ...bitch.

Date: 2008/02/24 00:10:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 23 2008,21:03)
Quote (steve_h @ Feb. 22 2008,16:41)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 22 2008,21:07)
       
Quote
Why isn’t ALL life extinct? by DaveScot: One method is called a “factory restore”. In this method a protected image of the known working software load from the factory is used to replace the evolved load.

In biology, we call it "replication". If a bacterium makes a bad mistake, there are all sorts of other little copies ready to take its place.


ID prediction #5: some people are big-endian and some people are little endian. I personally am little d'oh-big endian.



I-I-I-I-I Like Big Ends, and I cannot lie!

Nice predictions.

Mmmmmm Tracy .....I like big ends too.......
......oh wait we're not talking about the same thing are we?

Date: 2008/02/24 00:27:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Dr Larry said:
Quote
Unless you guys consider plagiarism as a form of flattery.


Flattery?

Absolutely .....and you can quote, misquote, acquire, misadopt, assume, copy, filch, lift, imitate, obtain, pilfer, pirate, plagiarize, simulate, steal, take, use, usurp, bowdlerize, transmutate, misconstrue, pervert, distort, exaggerate, misapprehend, misconceive, misinterpret, misjudge, misread, mistake, mistranslate, misunderstand, bugger up, boggle,  bumble, bungle, butcher, distort, err, flub, fluff, fumble, goof up, gum up, louse up, mar, mend, mess, mess up, misapply, miscalculate, miscompute, misconjecture, mishandle, misjudge, mismanage, muck up, muddle, muff,  patch, ruin, screw up, spoil, wreck anything I say as long as you attribute it to ME!!!!

I want some of that 'I'm as good as *insert idiot scientist here*' appeal to dead male white conservative glory those useless twats at UD are getting.

Date: 2008/02/27 17:57:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 27 2008,16:13)
Quote (skeptic @ Feb. 27 2008,14:37)
Your sentiments are appreciated, Kristine, although, unfortunatley not widespread.

I don’t think that’s true, Skeptic, I think a lot of his opponents will sincerely mourn the guy. He loomed so large when I went to college – there’s just no way you can be cavalier about a figure like him (whereas my utter lack of sympathy for Jerry Falwell took me by surprise).

My ex loves the Beatniks, but I got a clandestine thrill when we saw the footage of Buckley telling Alan Ginsburg that he was “naïve,” because he was and someone needed to say it. Silly yawping about Krishna. Unlike Buckley I am an appalling hedonist but I have little patience for the Beatniks, except for Kerouac. :)

An appalling hedonist who get's it?.....Krishna almighty I'M IN LOVE!!!

Although it is well known that without the massive ingestion of speed and the single rolls of paper Kerouac used on his portable typewriter to write is books, it is quite possible they may have been only very quick 1 page short stories.

Anyway why did Ginsberg like Krishna, when all of his 10,000 or so lovers were female? Isn't there a gay Hindu god he could have picked?

Date: 2008/02/28 08:04:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 27 2008,21:44)
Principalities involved, smokey.

Septic I can't yawn wide enough to show my contempt for pure unadulterated factless opinion.  That's like comparing butthole stink.  Boring, to me, obviously a daily routine for you.  And also for other relativists like Kevin and FtK.

k.e. what about Benny Hinn?  Surely that fucker qualifies for god-hood in the queer-hin-do-you-he-d-do-you sect.  One that has the giant throbbing purple headed warrior as the main do-ity.  one touch and you are knocked down, wake up with a pulsing throbber in the main vein and in the brain vein.  what a lame game.  ginsberg was nothing but a fancy footed fairy.  ever since the hairy scrote poem, any meth-genius could do something equivalent.  not saying he wasn't .

Apa t fk is Benny who?
Sorry we is hermaphodites...er I mean Antipodeans.

Whar ah gru up we wuz Beetneck chelendzed.

So Whacky Kero, Buroughs, Leary n Alan Watts r the only ones I have any familiarity wt........ Boroughs of course made more sense than the others.

The only thing I have seen or read from Ginzee was a clip of him sucking up to John Lennon, n that was recently.

Reading Joyce's Ulysses at the moment it's like rolling the world's best whiskey around in yr mouth. Or throbbing purple in a wet one....hmmmmm..... maybe not the second.

Who else could wraught "Poached eyes on ghost"

Made me think of Dumbski and his doppleganger Berlinski.

But hey ,.....I are dishlexia an i r reding it backwards.

Date: 2008/02/28 08:16:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Septic u do realize that reality has a liberal bias...right. So that means there is no god...got that?

What's wt the Obama thing. Is this like a conservy revenge thing where you can walk around after he loses n say i didn't vote for that dikhed MacCocain?

I'm still in a Jungle where no other white man has set foot for quite some time....... Ok we do have internet which is steam powered n peddle driven (by dusky maidens BTW) but we can't access porn so AtBC is the next best thing and as far as "the news" goes I have reached the conclusion I don't want to pollute my mind wt pure vomit until i absolutely have 2 go home. .....erm present company accepted of course.

Date: 2008/02/29 07:50:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 29 2008,07:26)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 29 2008,06:42)
Bipolar disorders (1, 2 or cyclothymia or whatever they are calling them nowadays) and clinical depression are indeed mental illnesses but they don't always render the patient a window licking unfunctioning ambulatory vegetable.

Kay Jamison's autobiographical An Unquiet Mind (which I read ~10 years ago), Touched with Fire: Manic-Depressive Illness and the Artistic Temperament and Exuberance: The Passion for Life go directly to these questions with respect to bipolar illness.

An Unquiet Mind is a good read (I haven't read the others). Jamison is one of the world's foremost authorities on the illness, has bipolar illness herself - and resisted pharmacological treatment for years because it was during early phases of her manic episodes (what she called her "white manias" - distinct from her subsequent inevitable "black manias") that she was most productive.

Diagnosis with the illness sometimes raises dilemmas for the individual, who may value elements of their high moods and must also confront the reality that their affect often can't be uncritically "trusted" - an enthusiasm, attraction, interest etc. may be the leading edge of a hypomanic mood and not "genuine." I knew a guy who would write plays, paint, compose and sing during hypomanic periods - all quite unproductively, because he couldn't finish projects. His diagnosis was a severe blow, because it undercut core elements of his identity and self-esteem that revolved around his creativity and sometimes seemingly boundless energy. He also struggled with the fact that, during the peak of his manic periods, there were psychotic elements to his thinking that he valued. He would, at those highest moods, walk to the beach and sit before the surf, which he believed "imparted information" to him that was unique and quite indescribable. He recognized the unreality of that phenomenon at other times, but his extremely high moods impaired his judgment about the quality of his thinking when active.

Dear Reciprocating Bill ......er excuse me..... ur friend.

The best advice I can give for such situations your friend finds herself in, is a warm bath and a box of razor blades.

Your friend k.e..

Date: 2008/02/29 22:24:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
k.e. that could cause someone to cut off their nipples.


Crikey thanks for the warning, I'll check right now.

Date: 2008/03/02 07:32:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 01 2008,17:19)
Quote (Paul Flocken @ Mar. 01 2008,18:10)
   
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 01 2008,10:12)
I'm working on a book that illustrates the operation of "experimenter bias" in the domain of research into racial differences. My working title: The Mismeasure of Man (catchy, eh?). Nothing will be the same when Gil and I are done with this. In the not-distant future, discourse in science that betrays ignorance of "experimenter bias" and the empirical demonstration of same will become, rightfully, the object of merciless ridicule.


Isn't experimenter bias already a known phenomenon and hence the reason why double blind experiments were devised?  Peer review also exists to curb bias by having results analyzed by outsiders without vested interests.

(I'm assuming that you were 100% serious throughout the whole of your comment.  You did say sarcasm was not appropriate so no facetiousness allowed.)

So the non-science world may finally be learning that bias is present in all people and must be vigorously rooted out.  'Bout time.

I guess I was too subtle. The entire post is facetious and sarcastic, because, as you rightly note, experimenter bias is a long and well-known phenomenon that did indeed motivate the invention of double blind procedures. The Mismeasure of Man was Stephen Jay Gould's 1996 examination of the phenomenon in the context of race.  

Gil thinks he has just discovered it. What an idiot. And I am hopeful that he will become, rightfully, the object of merciless ridicule - beginning with my post. Get busy!

Gil and I ........twice? (not to mention biwhtvr dishorder) .....and too subtle?

n nvr bn sn i t sm rm tghtr......

OK .....own up now RB, Gill is your skpppt ...am i right?

Once Dt gets ur number Izzzz..D predicts...

GILL U R A DOUBLE HOMO N U DO NUANCE...YOU'RE OUTA HERE.

Date: 2008/03/02 07:38:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
My personal nomination is Richard Feynman. All we have to do is raise him from the dead, first


WHAT! Over my dead body he will! While crying baby jesus still spins in his grave ...nobody is bumping me off the front of the line...nobody!

Well he will have get on the end of the queue with every other godman.

Date: 2008/03/04 08:56:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 04 2008,08:36)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 04 2008,08:11)
 
Quote (Steverino @ Mar. 04 2008,06:33)
 
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 04 2008,06:08)
Sal informs us that Caroline Crocker is selling a new product, intellectual honesty.  $5,000 if made from scratch, $1,000 for gently used.  Details are available from her agent at intellectual IntellectualHonesty.info.

Oh and it's a real slick website!

The 90's called and they want their copy of FrontPage back!

Ha!  If they were trying to win an award for The Most Annoying WebSite, they win.

Yeah.  I love the "Showing the Intelligence of Design" graphic.  Luckily my ironymeter had already flagged the site as comedy.

HA, YUR FeMONY METEOR IS OSTENSTATIONSOULY BONED HOMO. MY MOOSROOMS ARE DERISDED ONLY BY GIRLYMEN FROM A MAGAZINE GLUE SNIFFING ROOM IN TARANTOO N CORPUS ECCE HOMO N AXETAS, THR IS NOT ENOUGH OF ME TO GO AROUND WHEN RTH IS EATING SO BYE BYE. dT ASSCLOWN TO THE LESS THAN IQ126**** OF INTELeDELL DEAD REGAN WORSHIPPERS.



*#@(converted to 5 year discount fr lameassed old fart SAT score)

Date: 2008/03/09 07:46:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Turncoat said:
Quote
I once went out with a hospital CEO who explained at length how Jesus had made her a success. Then she tried to get me to fuck her. (Sorry, but fuck is le mot juste.) Physically, she was an absolute beauty, but somehow I'd lost interest


Haven't you heard about the bedroom conversion?

I would have hapily joined in her in her fundagarments and converted her to Jainism
and given her the first hundred pages of the Kama Sutra to study while showing her how to achieve Moksha the release from the cycle of death and rebirth.....then left town.

Date: 2008/03/09 10:08:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 09 2008,08:30)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 09 2008,07:46)
Turncoat said:
 
Quote
I once went out with a hospital CEO who explained at length how Jesus had made her a success. Then she tried to get me to fuck her. (Sorry, but fuck is le mot juste.) Physically, she was an absolute beauty, but somehow I'd lost interest


Haven't you heard about the bedroom conversion?

I would have hapily joined in her in her fundagarments and converted her to Jainism
and given her the first hundred pages of the Kama Sutra to study while showing her how to achieve Moksha the release from the cycle of death and rebirth.....then left town.

Ohhhh is that what you call whimpering about mother while in a fetal ball.  I'm sure that works with all the ladies

Mommy, that nasty man is following me around...

Date: 2008/03/09 19:29:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 09 2008,14:04)
Or maybe her attention is drawn by Aqualung,
who watches through the railings as they play.



looking out or looking in ? ..I'm not hiding my swami-ness under a bushel

choose your poison

Addiction

K?l?


O victorious one

Date: 2008/03/15 05:12:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Kristine I fixed ur question...
Quote
Sal - what good is half *a fkn stoopid* IDea?  


No IDea ....blinder than one of Arden STFU's gf's?

Cheer's all; I'm home now, which means I can contribute to the mocking of the world's worst IDea ......and PvM the world's worst wowzer, who won't even remove my posts to the wall.

Quality posts like that will have to be double posted next time, I can't waste them all on the likes of Erasmus.

Date: 2008/03/17 07:29:01, Link
Author: k.e..
Classic, is he gay?

Date: 2008/03/17 12:04:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 17 2008,11:05)
Creobot translation number 124812

"Pummel a strawman..soaked in the oil of ad hominem, that can be ignited." = "I'd like to lock you in my wickerman, then burn you"



*snip*

I see unlimited cheap oil advocate KF even slipped in the red herring that the Darwinistas are the root cause of global warming ..........if he manages to find a match.

Date: 2008/03/18 10:23:57, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 18 2008,09:06)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 18 2008,03:40)
As far as I remember KF is some sort of government official in some Caribbean government?

I wonder if the people who voted that government in know he refuses to take a position on the age of the earth? I wonder if the scientists who he claims to teach "how to teach science" know this?

Is there anyway we can let them know I wonder :)

Been lurking a little lately and following the "exchanges" between the ever patient and polite Jack Krebs and the ever pompous and vapid Gordon Mullings aka Kairosfocus. On googling to confirm if Gordon was actually a government official, I came across Barbados Free Press, where I read      
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BFP To Kairosfocus

Dear Kairosfocus:

Your volume of comments and the length of your comments are upsetting the normal mood of this blog.

When you post four or five new comments all at once we see nothing but you under the “new comments” column.

Readers are complaining, and these are not only the readers who disagree with your position. You are monopolizing the comments on only one issue.

While we appreciate your position on the threat of world islamist fascism, and we post such articles occasionally, your debates are turning this blog into something else.

We have therefore placed you on moderation, and will restrict your comments to two a day of short length. You are more than welcome to invite our readers to your own site -

- BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR WEBSITE.

Yours truly,

Robert
[URL=http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/05/13/a-piece-of-barbados-history-dr-jerry-bulls-assassination-the-harp-gun-saddam-hussain-and-i

%3Cbr%3Esraeli-intelligence/#comment-115775]Link[/URL]

You mean we are out house debating about a certified lunatic?

No wonder ID fails the idiot test......erasmus extrude that please!

What we need around here is a Dave parallel universe antitard Springer...oh.....Sry STeve.... could we have some more malice pse? No can do? It's ok I understand, but more spitting n cursing wouldn't hurt the cause. Look at KF he has all the sucky, I'm such a sober useless cunt vacuum taken up we need an antidote. Dudski seems to be a wooden eye magnet.
No wonder he dreams of winged free(.....no $) naked horney nymphomaniac female angels, sry DT ur hairy ass never made it past Mike D's desk. His AHolyness only lets u fill the gap near the drain where the rats get in. I hope fr ur sake u get lots of free SM O'deVie r does he make u pay fr tht as well. Sucker.

HOMOS FRONT TO BACK, ID IS THE REAL DEAL. D tar..ed.

Date: 2008/03/18 23:09:40, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 18 2008,13:55)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 18 2008,13:34)
Lemme Quotemine!

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-189092

   
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your standard response is that all the experts accept it...   ...This does not sound like someone who is an expert.

I think we should all pause and thank the designer. It's been some time since rivers of undulating milk-chocolate tard have flowed at UD like it flows in this thread. These guys don't know shit from apple butter, and there is a special tardalicious magic in that.

I'd forgotten the feeling.

Next they will be writing on the UD cell walls with their own sh*t.

Dt is oiling his fuzzy logic chainsaws but can't see the dead wood for the forest. Sniffing two stroke gasoline fumes fills his mind with thoughts of crushing clowns. Once his Prozac supply runs out he will turn his attention to the smell surrounding his boss brute cage at the asylum, at that point he will realize he left his keys in Janiebell's boudoir. He shrugs his man-boobs and fills another empty cheezypoof bag with 99 octane, sniffs and staggers to his feet attempting to start and juggle his chainsaws simultaneously...I can't watch.

Dembski is on day leave continuing his gallant quest for the Holy Dirty Free Lunch with angels. Since he charges $200 per hour only one suppressed desperate short haired matron of sludge journalism recognizes his desperate needs. She sees an opportunity to make it in the big city of zero information. Her constant fawning and obscene self promotion feed his own pathological need to validate his ego by his moral and intellectual equals ;/ serving the dual purpose of keeping him from visiting a professional mind restorer.

Date: 2008/03/20 10:01:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 20 2008,05:55)
Wow, we seem to have been invaded by trolls and silly people.  Congratulations for Pim in moving them all here.

pHFFFFfffttt Pim is a complete wuss.

He binned my knifing of some twit and ALL the following comments were just Prozac versions of my comments.

He deserves them, why he even bothers to send second rate crap here when he could send quality instead indicates that Karl Marx was right.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"; and when you have seen, as I have, the bloodshot upturned eyes of a severely addicted elderly half naked person gliding through the kampong in a pipe dream then it's not too much to extrapolate that to the mindless miasma that accompanies those half man, half beasts that shuffle off to Bethlehem .....or fly into tall buildings for that matter.

Date: 2008/03/20 10:22:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 20 2008,09:42)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 19 2008,12:12)
DaveTard has blown half of Texas!!!

 
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Can’t wait for Expelled to come out. I’ve got enough personal favors to call in to get about fifty men, women, and children to go see it on opening weekend. I’ll buy the tickets ahead of time, pass them out, and extract a promise to go see it. If they find the movie worth the cost of admission they can pay me back otherwise thanks for at least making the time to go see it. In any event it’ll at least give them enough knowledge about ID so I can bring up the subject in casual conversation.



No Shit

PS

ALL SCIENCE SO FAR!!!one!

CANT WEIGHT FOR MY MEALS TO GET THEY'RE. I'VE DONE ENOUGH POOS TO FEED 50 UNCOMMONLY DENSERS. I DID TEH POOS, PUT THEM IN A BOX, POSTED THEM OUT AND EXTRACTED A PROMISE THAT THEY'LL EAT THEM. IF THEY FIND MY POO DELICHUS, THEY SEND ME $5, OTHERWISE THEY HAVE TO AT LEAST THANK ME FOR MAKING THEM EAT MY POO. In any event it’ll at least give them enough knowledge about ID so I can bring up the subject in casual conversation

NOW GET THIS HOMO GIRLIE MAN POSTER BOY, THAIR BONZE!!!.
I THROW BONES IN THE SHOWER EVERY MORNING N IF I OPN THE DOOR EVRY TOM DICK N HARRY OVUMLUTIONISTAS WANTS IN.
MAKE UR POINT R HIT THE ROAD N TAKE UR ANTI ANTI OVALOOSHUN WITH U.
I WON'T BE TELLING U TWICE, DON'T MA'KE ME SHOW U MY IQ CERTIFIKATE. dt.

Date: 2008/03/20 20:06:01, Link
Author: k.e..
Matt if you are still reading this you should have a quick look back through your posts on ...erm Satan Claus and just exchange Him for another imaginary old hairy white man ....then take a quick look in a mirror; you might just catch yourself without the mask.

Those posts are perfect for their unvarnished naivety.

All gods are projections, thank you for your honesty most try harder to obscure.

No need to thank me, you came here to learn .....Right?

........Or to shore up your conservative religious worldview and teach we scum a lesson in civility?

Fundies use politeness as a passive aggressive assault weapon to stifle enlightenment.

Keep that nonsense for when you pay your next tithe.

Wake up u dick.

Date: 2008/03/20 20:35:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 20 2008,18:08)
Secular Berlinski?  Since when has that mattered in science?  Behe really needs to retire properly.

And is Berlinski "secular"?  What on earth does it mean?

....let me explain....

Dr Dr Berlinski Berlinski is a reformed calculus addict. He had no limits when he was inhaling whiteboard marker fumes. And seriously embarrassed himself giving a lecture to the worlds best Jewish abacus flickers in Vienna (or some other holocaust victim) while on a bender.

He saw the magic of god on that whiteboard they saw a crazed guy who had too much Viagra in his pocket.

He knows Jehovah is just a scam run by a bunch of foreskin collecting temple clowns but he is still deeply troubled by Jed’s (the real one not the cardboard cutout) failure to save Dr.Dr.B B from historical obscurity as Einstein’s putative intellectual prodigal son and cast him pillar like into the limelight.

Now since he is smartest of the entire ID crowd ......just ask him.....well you don't actually have to ....he did that himself, when he interviewed himself for one of their rags. I digress. Where was I? Oh yeah confused half believer he would use to describe himself.

Date: 2008/03/20 23:24:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Jkrebs @ Mar. 20 2008,22:39)
Excellent. Thanks.  The very basics of that idea is what I am trying to convey over at UD, but Van Till does a great job of explaining it more thoroughly, with quotes from No Free Lunch. I like other anti-ID stuff Van Till has written also.

By the way I went round and round about this with Sal Cordova and others over at ARN many years ago.  You can imagine how that went.

Yeah Sal can be good value when you stretch his little spandex brain...but this joke is funnier

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Saul is working in his store when he hears a booming voice from above: "Saul, sell your business." He ignores it. It goes on for days. "Saul, sell your business for $3 million." After weeks of this, he relents, sells his store. The voice says ‘Saul, go to Las Vegas." He asks why. "Saul, take the $3 million to Las Vegas." He obeys, goes to a casino. Voice says, "Saul , go to the blackjack table and put it down all on one hand." He hesitates but knows he must. He’s dealt an 18. The dealer has a six showing. "Saul, take a card." What? The dealer has -- "Take a card!" He tells the dealer to hit him. Saul gets an ace. Nineteen. He breathes easy. "Saul, take another card." What? "TAKE ANOTHER CARD!" He asks for another card. It’s another ace. He has twenty. "Saul, take another card," the voice commands. I have twenty! Saul shouts. "TAKE ANOTHER CARD!!" booms the voice. Hit me,Saul says. He gets another ace. Twenty one. The booming voice goes: "un-fucking-believable!"

Date: 2008/03/22 07:49:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Happy 39th again Kristine...I remember it well, believe it or not the ride down the other side is even better. Some say 60 is the new forty and I agree .....As long as you have a 26 year old partner. This means you better line up a 6 year old... no strike that it’s verging on the ridiculous. I better clean this up.....  What's Richard Dawkins like in the sack?

Date: 2008/03/22 08:03:45, Link
Author: k.e..
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"According to intuition." That settles it.


Keep in mind radical right wing Christian Reconstructionist Howard "McDuck" Ahmanson the Tourette's Syndrome suffering straight dirty talking sex rights  activist in the Episcopal church and other followers of ecce homo, loves playing the piano.....could "According to intuition" just be Accordion Tuition?

*Ha..... there is a god I edited this twice..make that 3x

Date: 2008/03/23 03:35:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 23 2008,01:53)
Many thanks, everyone! We're back from the convention for tonight. *urk*

*calls for wheelchair also and two pepto bismol*

To the ID lurkers - just don't make me call out the flying monkeys. ;) You too, k.e. Now you be a good boy for shimmyma.

Ok.... but since I can't be good I'll just have to Be good at it.

Date: 2008/03/23 07:25:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reed @ Mar. 23 2008,04:59)
My God Designer, these are the intellectual giants who are going to re-write biology ?

Then again, DaveScot violates the second law just by typing, so the first law should be easy by comparison. Maybe wiggling his little finger ?

OH VERY FRIGG'N FUNNY. U HOMOS SHOULD NO BY NOW THE ONLY THING I WIGGLE IS BONES. LOOK THAT GUY IN FLORIDA IS GOING TO CLEAN UP, MARK MY WORDS. WHEN OIL HITS $400 A BARREL THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL GET TO YOUR 19TH FLOOR CONDO IN MIAMI WILL BE BY HYDROGEN POWERED HOUSEBOAT. IT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION.

CHEAP FREE LUNCH ZERO PULSE WAVE MODULATED HYDROELECTRIC POWER WILL LEAVE ALL THOSE GIRLY MEN GLOBAL WARMANISTAS UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS IN DIHYDROGENMONOXIDE AND ALIGATORS.

ALL THE EXTRA WATER HAS TO RUN DOWNHILL, SO THINK OF THE FREE ENERGY. I CAN'T WAIT  FOR IT TO HAPPEN. I'M BUILDING AN ARK WITH MY CHAINSAW AT MY RURAL LAIR. IT IS GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL THE ANIMALS IN MY LOCAL PET SHOP AND BILL. WE CAN FINALLY BE TOGHETHER JUST ME AND HIM AND THAT CANADIAN TRANSEXUAL FRIEND OF HIS IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DROWN. GOOD RIDDANCE TOO. THE LAST BONE I THROW WILL BE TO THAT ROBBERS DOG....dt.

Date: 2008/03/23 20:02:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Stein who seems to be suffering from post Holocaust blues owes avowed christian Joseph Goebbels some thanks.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”

“Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character”

The child learns from the master of modern political multi-media propaganda.

Stein may also learn Propaganda is just another name for Religion, which has far more genocides on its hands.

Date: 2008/03/23 22:38:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 23 2008,22:22)
Happy B-Day late Kristine.  I sacrificed you some kittens, but I 8 them.

.....uh huh.

Date: 2008/03/24 08:09:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 23 2008,22:15)
AT the risk of ruining the jacob show here (i don't even care who that is or what they are yammering about)....  I'll share a tidbit.

An old friend and I were taking the piss around the fire for the benefit of some n00bs and otherwise generally impressionable social acquaintances and the conversation took such an interesting turn that I must report it here.  And elsewhere perchance.

Whilst we counted down the minutes until the Resurrection of Jesus and swilled beer from a large pressurized aluminum can, I was mentioning the fact that my gods were mighty and the gods of my enemies and those of the surrounding area were puny and false gods.  And of course the rejoinder from my savvy redskinned friend was that his god made my god.

And immediately I wondered, why in the past 20 years have we not considered this sort of foolishness as viable fodder for bardistry and generally debauching of the sort that can only be the result of white likker and banjer music.  Of which this night we had plenty of both.  

And it came to me, like Special Revelation:  My god created his god just so he could buttfuck it!.

This means my god rules, and all of your gods suck.  and get butt fucked by my god.  your puny gods.

ncht....


OK SO UR GOD IS A HOMO RIGHT? DOES THAT MEAN JESUS WAS A HOMO.....BECAUSE JULIUS CEASAR WAS (AT LEAST BI, BYE D WAY) AND JULIUS WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ...RIGHT? k>e>>

Date: 2008/03/24 20:57:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 24 2008,10:19)
But of course Bob your god has been roundly and robustly butt fucked by my god since that is what my god created all of your puny gods for anyway.

k.e. it is the pushing back part that makes your god a homo.  Since my god created everything included the concept of homo, eyebrow lice, pea gravel and A=440 Hz then you are gayer than the average gayest and your god is still puny.  and anyway as the Ultimate Regression my god can buttfuck any god and still not be gay unlike your god that is gay no matter what it does because it has negative residuals using the Bone-ferroni erectioncorrection...

Hmm Erasure brings a new definition to gods 'breaking wind'.

And all god's are a projection ...i.e. a mask.

...and just because you are not a raging queen and like being on top, doesn't make you straight.

But hey having a queer god .....who said there was anything wrong with that?

Date: 2008/03/26 21:05:04, Link
Author: k.e..
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....I think Dr. Dr. needs new friends


Don't be silly Dr. Dr. Windmill Dodgerski is not lonely, NO NO NO!!!


He has his faithful cold nose up butt crack slobber mutt DaveS - affectionately known as "Savage Mushrooms" Springer, his trusty but rickety and balding mare... Daze* "Scars that never healed / I'm not a robber’s dog walking backwards" O'Blaring and himself, whom he loves dearly; particularly while peering in a pond after dreamy long romantic walks with hisself.

He has angels and their cell phone numbers, he knows they're angels, they send him their knickers - erm still in Walmart bags…..talk about mercy for the graceless.

He has a countless adored zero waving fan who ass sucks up (and pays for) his latest logos of tautology.

What more could a bona fide NPD suffering, crank pseudo scientist and last rate newly adopted red neck theofacist want?

So Concluding:

Everybody gives him all the love he craves, how else can he get that grandiose sense of self-importance or support his preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power and brillance.

Why else would he believe that he is "special" and unique.

Think of all that required excessive admiration, that sense of entitlement.

Dave and other Dembski-ites love being exploited, no dependence there.

Has Dr.2  been envious of others?

Well only a little Amazon envy but what is wrong with that that can't be fixed with a little self review or three?

So no more lonely or false friendidnessless than any other NPD sufferer.



*Pronounced “Daisy” ….a favorite name for the family milking cow down on the farm.

Date: 2008/03/27 05:29:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Ptaylor @ Mar. 27 2008,00:54)
Dr. Dr. D wishes to remind us of how creepy he can be:
 
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Last week was spring break at Southwestern Seminary where I teach. The seminary is located in Ft. Worth, about 200 miles north of Austin. As it is, in the middle of the break (last Wednesday), Richard Dawkins was going to be speaking in Austin. I therefore challenged my class to go listen to him and provide proof that they had actually been there (the preferred proof was to have him sign a copy of THE GOD DELUSION). The incentive to go was extra credit for the course. Six of my students went. I told them that they should greet Richard from me should they speak to him.

My emphasis.
Overtones of the nasty birthday message episode, if you ask me.

......nnnnchtt I forgot to mention another NPD trait...manipulative.

OK YOU GIRLYMEN HOMO’S; NO ONE IS BEING MAN-NIPPLE-A-TED HERE, MOVE ALONG NOW. I'VE GOT SOME KNEECAPS THAT NEED DOING AT THE NEXT 'EXPELED' SHOWING.

ME AND MY GOOD OL'BUDIES FROM OUR NIGGA HUNT'N CLUB ARE HAVING A 'SPOT THE ATHEIST IN THE LINE OUT' COMPETITION. IF YOU ARE ONE YOU BETTER START PRAY'N TO DARWIN 'COS GOD AIN'T GOIN' HELP YOU. dt.

Date: 2008/03/27 05:54:54, Link
Author: k.e..
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... I think that the Nazi=sex=guilt+sin is a part of the fundy rejection of science.  Not a big part, but the whole abortion, "abstance only," submissive wifey bit is all of a piece.  Phil Johnson and DI supporter Ahmanson are frothing anti-gay.  It is worth more than a footnote.


Now they can add Darwinist's are necrophiliacs!

But they are in good company there are whole sections of the bible devoted to love of death.

Date: 2008/03/28 09:51:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 28 2008,08:55)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 27 2008,23:13)
larrynormanfan ain't no tard      
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kairosfocus said:
     
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Christian = Nazi. Sure!
NOT!!!!!!!!!

Quite right: I agree totally. To say that Christians are fascists, or that Christianity is like fascism, is idiotic.
Just as idiotic, in fact, as the claim that Darwinism leads to Nazism.

Yeah?  Can anybody name a prominent Fascist, present or past, who WASN'T a Christian?

Didn't think so.

Try this: Virtually all Fascists were Christian, but not all Christians are Fascists.

....yeah well we are talking about an Identity Politics movement here;

Which depends on propaganda to reproduce the meme.....to paraphrase Herr Joe G.

"Jesus and Buddha had one simple message with which they conquered to world and that's what we will do...with one simple message: god is on our side ..... And fuck everyone who stands in our way".

Dembski is a kinder Satan next to Herr Joe...

from http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/pre1933.htm

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There are two kinds of propaganda, one aimed at the understanding, the other the feelings. Both depend on imponderables. Worldview movements aim for the feelings. The force behind worldview movements has never been understanding, but rather faith. For example: Christ never wrote a party program, but did preach the Sermon on the Mount. In it he laid the foundations of a new world, summarized in the simple phrase "Love your neighbor as yourself."




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The goal of our propaganda is control of the government. We want to replace the organization with a state founded on the idea


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Some kind of idea is at the beginning of every political movement. It is not necessary to put this idea in a thick book, nor that it take political form in a hundred long paragraphs. History proves that the greatest world movements have always developed when their leaders knew how to unify their followers under a short, clear theme. That is clear from the French Revolution, or Cromwell's movement, or Buddhism, Islam, or Christianity. Christ's goal was clear and simple: "Love your neighbor as yourself." He gathered his followers behind that straightforward statement. Because this teaching was simple, crisp, clear, and understandable, enabling the broad masses to stand behind it, it in the end conquered the world.



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The state needs a worldview. Christianity also conquered the state, and in the moment that it conquered the state it began to carry out practical political activity. You can with justice claim: "Yes, but at the moment Christianity took over the state, it began to cease being Christian." That is the tragedy of all great ideas. At the moment they enter the realm of this life of sin, of the all-too-human, they leave the heavens and lose their romantic magic. They become something normal. We are not discussing whether or not one can change the nature of life. Things have gone on this way for millions of years, and will go on in the same way for millions more. You will have to ask a higher power why that is so. At the moment an idea takes practical form, it loses its angel's wings, its romantic mystery. If someone had had the courage to strip the völkisch idea of its romantic mystery, if one had taken account of the hard facts, it would not look as romantic today as it does to some dreamers. But it would have kept millions of German children from starving. For me, it is more important that a nation lives than that an idea remains as pure as possible in the heads of a few dreamers.



Nazis were radical Christian "identity politics" theofacists; that is clear, they are  almost indistinguishable from 'merikas 'vanjelicants.

Goebbels distilled his ideas for control of the state by his ideology from religion.

Particularly Christianity and used it and its themes and memes to intermingle radical right wing worldview Identity Politics into a powerful almost world dominating force through the simple thought control propaganda used by religion. Nothing has come that close until Bush came to power.

Simply put; Christianity and Fascism are blood kinder and cannot be separated

Date: 2008/03/28 10:08:25, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 27 2008,11:06)
Re: "Hitler was an atheist!"

Hitler was a nutcase with obsessions and a thirst for power. It is obvious that he (and his followers) used whatever was around opportunistically to manipulate people. It's way too simplistic to try to say that "Hitler was an X!" for just about any X that includes a substantial proportion of non-nutcase humans and pretend that we have determined the basis of what drove the Nazis to do what they did.

Did evolutionary ideas get used in Nazi propaganda? Sure. So did lots of ideas from Christianity. The mere presence of some idea in Nazi propaganda only shows directly that the propagandist thought that a chunk of his target audience would respond well to it. The notion that one can come up with simple, exclusive causes for Nazis and Hitler doing the things they did is ludicrous. Many of the folks high in the Nazi hierarchy were people without much in the way of formal education and who never showed much tendency to apply a principled view of things to their actions, even misunderstood principles. Principled application of some one viewpoint would imply a consistency in publicly-stated justifications that was notable by its absence in Nazi propaganda output.

But the modern propaganda wants us to accept that there is a clear, simple causative explanation for the phenomenon of Hitler and Nazism, and that "Darwinism" is it. In doing so, they have to discard or otherwise overlook the evidence that many other factors influenced the leaders of Nazi Germany, and that in the single most famous case, that of Hitler, one most often finds him couching his arguments in terms of allusions to Christian theology and mythology.

The rhetorical ploy, though, has features that make it function, even if it is wrong. People like simple explanations. People don't like being told that understanding will take effort and scholarship, and can't be delivered via sound bite or "Lord Privy Seal" cutaway. That all sounds too much like work.

Believe it or not...Mr Joseph Goebbels ...a famed Christian  said this on the 9th of January 1928

 
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Then one can say that a person has a worldview—not because he knows a lot or has read a lot—but because he sees all of life from a certain standpoint, and measures everything by a certain standard. I am a Christian when I believe that the meaning of my life is the heavy responsibility to love my neighbor as myself.


One could ask who were the opertunists.

....Oh we have an answer to that....

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An evangelical minister and a politician arrived at Heaven's gate one day together. And St. Peter, after doing all the necessary formalities, took them in hand to show them where their quarters would be. And he took them to a small, single room with a bed, a chair, and a table and said this was for the clergyman. And the politician was a little worried about what might be in store for him. And he couldn't believe it then when St. Peter stopped in front of a beautiful mansion with lovely grounds, many servants, and told him that these would be his quarters.

And he couldn't help but ask, he said, "But wait, how-there's something wrong - how do I get this mansion while that good and holy man only gets a single room?" And St. Peter said, "You have to understand how things are up here. We've got thousands and thousands of clergy. You're the first politician who ever made it."


From the man who brought god to The Evil Empire

Date: 2008/03/28 10:20:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 28 2008,01:49)
Uh, we did lose, or, rather, concede the "war on terror" when we took up the methods of the terrorists. Now all that's left is the "war on other terrorists". That goes on apace.

.....Oh well; Don't worry too much, god is on both sides.

God bless you, and thank you very much.

Date: 2008/03/28 10:45:03, Link
Author: k.e..
I'M HUMBLED THAT SOMEONE AS SMART AND FAMOUS AS YOU WOULD DEIGN TO NOTICE ME AT ALL MUCH LESS TAKE THE TIME TO PERSONALIZE A BLOG ENTRY FOR ME. DOESN'T THAT SORT OF TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR WORK SAVING MILLIONS OF LIVES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE?

ROFLMAO

Posted by: davescot | February 2, 2007 03:59 PM

Date: 2008/03/30 07:07:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 30 2008,00:41)
Quote (Annyday @ Mar. 29 2008,19:00)
I was taught to write primarily by women, and I still write like a guy according to the gender genie. There's some really intricate commentary on the ways people use language in this, but I'm not gonna make it. Mostly, I think Granny Spice just confuses the genie because her writing is very, very far outside of the sample the genie was calibrated for.

Like fiction.

Ah. Scratch that.

Someone should get her to to have a "brazilian waxing" and check if there are any other growths. I may be wrong but her upper lip could do with one as well.

Date: 2008/03/30 19:56:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Mar. 30 2008,15:31)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 30 2008,14:19)
Advocatus Diaboli - it might be more correct to say that Sweden owned.  Apparently it use to be called Nevanlinna (which might be a familiar name to you).

Just think, if you got it back you'd more than double the population size.


Correct, Bob. It was way back when all Finns were sex slaves for the Swedes. We're still sore over that epoch.

Ha! What about the Irish?

Sore about the epoch? ....Which part of the body is that?

Date: 2008/03/30 20:29:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 30 2008,18:59)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 30 2008,16:22)
PS The phrase      
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Dave, I can’t help but love you a bit sometimes.
has never flowed from my fingers whilst violating 2lot.

For a guy living in France, you aren't much of a romantic, are you?

Isn't Brokeback Mountain near Texas?

DT fancies himself as a sperm donor with a chainsaw but judging by his admirers, I'd say he doesn't care which side he dresses on.

Maybe he likes Rubenesque  marines who can stir a sweet Martini? …..Extra Vermouth please …sailor x.

Date: 2008/03/30 20:53:13, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 30 2008,20:40)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 30 2008,20:29)
DT fancies himself as a sperm donor with a chainsaw but judging by his admirers, I'd say he doesn't care which side he dresses on.

Maybe he likes Rubenesque  marines who can stir a sweet Martini? …..Extra Vermouth please …sailor x.

Actually, I believe he is more of a tequila guy.
 
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Speaking of Rosarita Beach and Jesus… there isn’t anything that gets you praying better than waking up naked on Rosarita Beach Sunday morning with a mouthful of sand, an empty bottle of tequila, and no idea which hotel is yours. The first thing you pray for is a fig leaf before you go looking for your car.



Oh .....so he's in denial.

I'll bet he walked funny all the way back to his pickup truck and wondered why there was a bunch of guys off the aircraft carrier following him blowing kisses.

Date: 2008/03/30 23:52:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 30 2008,23:38)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 30 2008,19:56)
 
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Mar. 30 2008,15:31)
   
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 30 2008,14:19)
Advocatus Diaboli - it might be more correct to say that Sweden owned.  Apparently it use to be called Nevanlinna (which might be a familiar name to you).

Just think, if you got it back you'd more than double the population size.


Correct, Bob. It was way back when all Finns were sex slaves for the Swedes. We're still sore over that epoch.

Ha! What about the Irish?

Sore about the epoch? ....Which part of the body is that?

"Were you stabbed in the fracas?"

"No, about two inches above that."

Ba-dum-CHING!

It wasn't a fracas unless I was there getting thrown out :P

Date: 2008/03/30 23:55:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 30 2008,22:08)
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 30 2008,21:52)
DaveScot raises our hopes:
   
Quote

03/30/2008

9:19 pm

This is so funny. Hundreds of comments on Pharyngula and they’re split on whether this is a dig at creationists or evolutionists. Does anyone here have any doubt it’s a brilliant hip-hop mockery of scientists who think they’re smarter than everyone else when in reality they’re just nerds with no street survival skills? Smart, on the urban streets, is having a 9mm Glock and knowing how to use it not having a biology degree and knowing how to use it. Amazing. There’s nothing more pathetic than a nerd who doesn’t know he’s a nerd. I swear I’ll eat my shirt pocket protector if this wasn’t commissioned by the Expelled producers as a tool to get a buzz going.


What was that stuff about nerds?  What industry was Dave in again?

nothing worse? What about fear of clowns?

Well that explains Dave's visit to the sperm bank.

How Dt gets women to beg for it

Date: 2008/03/31 06:54:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quack @ Mar. 31 2008,05:51)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 31 2008,05:40)
Who is getting Expelled again?
   
Quote
In case anyone is wondering where 30 comments disappeared to they can be found at www.offtopicpurgatory.org.

I would note that the comments that were deleted were all the comments discussing Sal's dishonest use of the Darwin puppy quote.  Sal's original comment is still there, though. You are one classy guy, Dave.

Who is getting Expelled again?
   
Quote
In case anyone is wondering where 30 comments disappeared to they can be found at www.offtopicpurgatory.org.


Purgatory not found.

Oh yes it is.....sand in ass crack, tequilla sunrise, prick up truck cleaning, mama don't do blow jobs nomore, daddy loves lesbians and blog boyz love me blues.

Dt..... please throw us a bone.

Tell us all what permanent purgatory is like...some of us don't know what that is.

We have to watch you toss unwelcome guests out every now again to see the event horizon.

Date: 2008/03/31 07:12:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 31 2008,06:50)
Oh, Hell.

19
DaveScot
03/30/2008
8:33 pm

In case anyone is wondering where 30 comments disappeared to they can be found at www.offtopicpurgatory.org.

Says carlsonjok: "I would note that the comments that were deleted were all the comments discussing Sal's dishonest use of the Darwin puppy quote.  Sal's original comment is still there, though. You are one classy guy, Dave.

Dave lifts the intelligence of fools to new levels

....but even by his own metric, that is still below an average IQ of a 17 yr old (av. age of SAT test candidate) with a 23 year old's brain (IQ approx 140-150).......when sat*  by a semi college educated marine dork who is actually .....23 years old.

*as in dT taking a 17 year old's SAT test at 23 years old, when he is ready for the knackery.

dT ur a reelly reely smrt guy ok?
Nobody apreeshates u rite?...rite?

Well everyone except Mr DR Doktor WMD ...don't worry dT he'll blow you fr reel wunday.

Date: 2008/03/31 09:17:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Damian @ Mar. 31 2008,06:19)
PZ-away!



From: http://cectic.com/129.html

THAT IS 'N AD HYMENIUM ATTACK ON MY UD BOTHERING homoS :( dT

Date: 2008/03/31 21:16:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (ERV @ Mar. 31 2008,11:44)
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 30 2008,21:52)
DaveScot raises our hopes:
     
Quote

03/30/2008

9:19 pm

This is so funny. Hundreds of comments on Pharyngula and they’re split on whether this is a dig at creationists or evolutionists. Does anyone here have any doubt it’s a brilliant hip-hop mockery of scientists who think they’re smarter than everyone else when in reality they’re just nerds with no street survival skills? Smart, on the urban streets, is having a 9mm Glock and knowing how to use it not having a biology degree and knowing how to use it. Amazing. There’s nothing more pathetic than a nerd who doesn’t know he’s a nerd. I swear I’ll eat my shirt pocket protector if this wasn’t commissioned by the Expelled producers as a tool to get a buzz going.

I think this is one of my favorite DaveTard quotes ever!  LOL What, did DT grow up in the ghetto of East St. Louis?  Dealt drugs in Detroit?  'Real homies carry a 9mm, aiight?' ROFL!!!!

Man I be a skinny white chick with a huge ass black pit bull, my homie neighbors think Im a crazy ass bitch, but they respect crazy ass bitches, so I aint need no 9mm.

Pfff 9mm. What he know about livin in de hood.

Don't forget Dt thinks the whole purpose of the war in Iraq is to teach Jesus' Army street fightn' skilz......so they can make the ghettos from sea to shining sea safe for fat old white men with big truck syndrome.

That way he will be able to carry his equalizer-concealed into any crack den in the land looking for frisky gay Eskimo-ettes and telln' the boyz how to suck mushrooms on his own terms.....then leave without walking backwards with his hand in his pants.

Next thing he will be saying he's going to pop a cap in PZ's ass.....oops I think he said that already.

Then he will be saying god told him he was Napoleon Bone-part.....we will all have to agree.

Date: 2008/04/01 01:12:38, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeffox @ April 01 2008,00:16)
k.e. wrote:
     
Quote
Then he will be saying god told him he was Napoleon Bone-part.....we will all have to agree.

You mean Bone-tard.   :)   :)

I like it!

I aint waitn' fo' bro' Tard t' thro' us home boyz anotha bone.

'K U MOFOS LIST'N UP CUZ I IZ TAWKN..NOW U'ALL IZ GETN' ON MA MAN TITS WIT UR SMRT MOUTHZ 'N UR DISSIN'. DIS WHITE NIGGA'S GONA FK ALL UR BITCHES AN' DEN HE'S GONNA POP A CAP IN UR LILY WHITE ASSES SO BEND OVA AND ENJOY DA TARD-BONING TM

Date: 2008/04/01 04:12:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ April 01 2008,01:31)
And has anyone told Billy D that his website is run by an admitted sociopath? Or does he care? Does this support the old thesis that UD really exists to humiliate Dembski?

....and boy does he need it.

But I'm sure it has the oposite effect to sackcloth in his case.

He needs the UD slobs to confirm his own personal brilliance...it's a shame his brilliance is as dull as the turds at UD.

Date: 2008/04/02 08:15:15, Link
Author: k.e..
I recently (March this year) gave away a much used Victorinox Swiss Army Knives Cyber Tool to a semi literate young man who could hardly speak a word of English deep in the Jungles of Halmahera in Indonesia for being such a help with my job there. I had promised him my hp (Indonesian for 'cell phone' literally hand phone) but I had so many phone numbers and hot sms from some very willing young cewaks (girl friends) that I couldn't part with it and expect to do any serious horizontal folk dancing studies with those alleged orang orang (people).

I never needed a weapon although they saw fit to provide me with an armed guard for one day since there might have been trouble at the mill ...so to speak. Anyway I didn't have one for the other 50 plus days I was there. And that guard couldn't keep up in the jungle anyway even though he looked fit.

I went to some very dodgy places and made a nuisance of myself as usual but nobody wanted to kill me. So as I always say be careful and have fun and if you wake up alive without a tattoo and you don't have to gnaw off an arm so you don't wake up who's sleeping next to you it's been a good night.


That tool had opened many many pieces of equipment cut toe nails, decorked wine, opened beer, tightened nuts, fashioned implements the list is endless. It was never used as a weapon. Maybe on the end of a piece of rope it could give someone a nasty headache. I fell naked without it now since I'm always reaching for it to do something. They don't sell them at airports now so I'll have to actually find a frigging shop that sells that particular model.

Anyway I'm off back to PNG midnight tonight and will be in a bush this time tomorrow night.

good night

P.S. I'm sure if Dt was there they would have burned him they do that to people they don't like.

There was a mini Rawanda type massacre there around year 2000 many thousands of people were hacked to death during Christian Moslem violence.

See why I don't like religion.

Date: 2008/04/15 20:41:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 15 2008,20:06)
14
leo stotch
04/15/2008
7:22 pm

"Do we need to know whether or not the mountains of Rushmore were designed or not in order to reach a design inference for the faces carved into them? No. Only the difference in specified complexity between the old and new patterns need be examined."

ID is so awesome. It is a science that does no lab or field work and relies on mathematical concepts that use no mathematical calculations. It reminds me of the Todd Snider song about the band that wouldn’t play a note.

Leo Stotch is no longer with us. -dt

(4' 33" by John Cage also memorializes ID's research output.)

(ht carlsonjok)

Wrong!.........that work is copyrighted.
Original and unique material that is indeed .......designed.

ID material can only be found in sewers, dustbins and those useless propaganda outlets .....X-Stain bookshops.

Unlike great art that hints at the divine capabilities of the human mind, ID material ends up in the same places vomit can be found.

Date: 2008/04/16 07:30:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Hermagoras @ April 15 2008,21:09)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 15 2008,21:05)
Leo Stotch ain't fucking around, assholes

     
Quote

14
leo stotch
04/15/2008
7:22 pm
Do we need to know whether or not the mountains of Rushmore were designed or not in order to reach a design inference for the faces carved into them? No. Only the difference in specified complexity between the old and new patterns need be examined.

ID is so awesome. It is a science that does no lab or field work and relies on mathematical concepts that use no mathematical calculations. It reminds me of the Todd Snider song about the band that wouldn’t play a note.

Leo Stotch is no longer with us. -ds


15
leo stotch
04/15/2008
8:54 pm
Leo Stotch is no longer with us. -ds

Boo!

Hi, Dave.



16
leo stotch
04/15/2008
8:55 pm
Dave, if you are going to ban someone, do it right away so they cannot mock you a second time.

Write that down! I love it so!


OF COURSE I HAD TO ADD THE SWEET BOLDED PARTS.  THATS BECAUSE I AM BOLDER THAN MOST AND MOLDIER THAN BOAST.  I JUST SPECIATED AT THE BAR WHEN I TURNED DOWN AN INUIT WOMAN.  HER LOINS WERE THROBBING FOR MY MESOMORPH JEANS BUT SINCE SHE DID NOTHING TO PLEASE MY NUANCED APPRECIATION FOR MY OWN SPECIES I GUESS I WILL BE AUTO-DIDACKING TONIGHT.  HAHA I KILL ME AS OFTEN AS I CAN SNEAK OFF.


bwahahahaha


DAVE TRAD YOUR STOPIDER THAN ALL GIT OUT

That's fantastic.

NO IT'S' FREAKIN' NOT!

E' 'AS STOLE' MY FREAKING Dt COAT!!

(u bAsTaRd ERASMUS)

(would the real Dt please stand up...ok I had to 'phone his bone....... 'n this was thrown)


BTW 'RAS' YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT AS THE ALPHA TARD SPERM DONOR TO A SHORT FAT RUBINESQUE BIG HAIRY ASSED (LIKE MINE)  'N STUPID NON INUIT HOUSE BOAT TRAMP OF THE OPOSITE SEX TO THAT GIRLYMAN ARNOLD SWARTZNWHATSIT...

...THAT SHE HAD TO REALLY BEG AND BEG FOR IT BEFORE I GAVE IT TO HER AND THEN ONLY AFTER I HAD A BOTTLE OF TEQUILLA AND SHE HAD TWO...

..THEN I BANNITATED HER BECAUSE SHE  ASKED FOR MY IQ CERTIFICATE WHEN THAT KID DIDN'T STOP DROOLING UNTIL IT WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

HA HA SHE WAS SO STUPID SHE THINKS JUST BECAUSE I WAS MIKE DELL''S BES'TEST FRIEND I AM A BILLIONAIR.

I LIED BY OMISSION SO SHE STILL THINKS I ARE ONE.

HA HA SHE DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR MY DNA FOR A PATERNITY TEST BECAUSE SHE THINKS YOU CAN GET PREGNANT FROM ANAL SEX.

ALL HER BROTHERS' AND UNCLE'S AND THE S'HERIFF DENY THEY ARE THE KID?S FATHER AS WELL.

THE FACT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE MY TWO DOG"S (WHICH DON'T LOOK A BIT LIKE ME) WALKING BACKWARD'''S S,HOULDN'T COUNT.

GIVEN THAT ALL THE REST OF MY MARINE BUDDIES WERE THERE THAT AFTERNOON AND THEY TOLD ME WHAT HAPPENED* .....THE NEXT DAY...


....AFTER I ASKED "WHY MY MOUTH TASTED LIKE SHIT?" I BELIEVED THEM...... AFTER ALL ONE WAS A BAR TENDER WHO HAD A TATTOO AND A REAL MOUSTACHE
WHO STRANGELY RESEMBLED MY MOTHER. THE SAME RED DRESS AND 46DDD HOOTERS.....AND DEEP DEEP VOICE FROM YEARS OF CIGAR SMOKING AND BLOW'N GASOLINE OUT OF CARBURETTORS WITH HER MEAN THIN LIPS.

HA HA I KILL ME SOMETIMES WITH MY GANSTA' RAPP'N' 9MM WHITE YUPPIE BOAT GHETTO MUSHROOM TALK.
VINE VIDI HOMOS ECCE
- dt

*I MADE THEM SAY 'SO HELP ME GOD IT WAS TRUE' AND THEY GOT DOWN ON THEIR KNEES' AND PRAYED .....JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIES WHEN SOME POOR GRUNT IS IN A FOX HOLE ABOUT TO DIE....SO IT WAS REALLY TRUE...'N BESIDES SHE DIDN'T HAVE A BLOG .....SO SHE COULDN'T FOOL ME.

Date: 2008/04/16 08:10:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 16 2008,08:07)
Dave (sadly) on SciAm:
 
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KF
I’ve been a subscriber to SciAm for decades. It started going downhill when Rennie became the editor-in-chief.


Which brings to mind one of Dave's Greatest Hits(in part):
 
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I missed a few months of it last year in protest over John Rennie’s crusade against ID. For the first time in decades I let my subscription lapse and promised to never subscribe to it again. So I told my wife it would make a nice Valentine gift and now she subscribes to it for me so I can have my cake and eat it too. After all, I didn’t promise to stop reading it, I only promised to stop subscribing to it.

So there.

IT'S PATHOS LIKE THAT, THAT MAKES YOU ALL LOVE ME, YOU HOMOS! dt

Date: 2008/04/16 09:44:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 16 2008,09:19)
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 16 2008,08:07)
Dave (sadly) on SciAm:
 
Quote
KF
I’ve been a subscriber to SciAm for decades. It started going downhill when Rennie became the editor-in-chief.


Which brings to mind one of Dave's Greatest Hits(in part):
 
Quote
I missed a few months of it last year in protest over John Rennie’s crusade against ID. For the first time in decades I let my subscription lapse and promised to never subscribe to it again. So I told my wife it would make a nice Valentine gift and now she subscribes to it for me so I can have my cake and eat it too. After all, I didn’t promise to stop reading it, I only promised to stop subscribing to it.

So there.

He also promised not to be gay anymore, but he still likes a bit of uphill gardening*. So there!


*Like any good fundy.

I CAN'T HELP IT IF I LIKE LESBIANS WHO ARE MEN AND BIPOLAR. NONE OF YOU ARE AS SMART AS ME, I'M THE ONLY PERSON WHO KNOWS BIOLOGY IS STAMP COLLECTING.-dt

Date: 2008/04/16 19:31:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 16 2008,16:05)
Father O'DaveTard:
 
Quote
It’s morally wrong to make good people feel bad about themselves. What’s your goal with all this? To make thousands of good Christian scientists feel guilty about doing what they must to provide for their families? That sucks. Big time. Try a little understanding and forgiveness instead. Isn’t that part of your Christian calling?

He forgot his usual "fuck you and the horse you rode in on."

Bwhahahahahahaha monster projection by dTard.

Morally wrong = ?

good people = ?

feel bad = ?

good Christian = ?

Scientist = ?

guilty = ?

families = ?



Politeness theory

Date: 2008/04/17 00:43:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ April 17 2008,00:02)
warm budweiser is better than a host of t'others.

what do i care, i found 34 fish today.  fuck youns.  i drank warm budweiser while i did it.

My heart goes out to you....have you considered suicide?

Date: 2008/04/17 01:18:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Hey I just found this. Thanks for all the ...erm positive comments :)

As usual ....late for my own party.

On the day I was on the side of a mountain in PNG and had to celebrate by boiling a missionary and regaling my porters with tales of naughtyness across the globe.
The local chief got the poor fellows knick knacks and all his wifes watched intently as he ate them...hoping for a good night one presumes.



carlsonjok .....even for you I will not sink to mere sentences.

Date: 2008/04/17 01:36:55, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
As a Christian his job is to make disciples of all nations, love his wife, his kids, fellow believers, neighbors, etc.


.....And love ex male prostitutes who supply xtal meth, to put a little extra zing in the "love thy neighbor" bit.

.....Put another prophylactic on the prothelizer and let the good times roll! Yeah Baby!!!

Date: 2008/04/17 01:48:54, Link
Author: k.e..
I was on a flight a few weeks back talking to a Marine Biologist who works on auditing toxic mine waste for the EU in 3rd world countries.

She claimed that a far bigger and more immediate problem that pales GW is here now.

A global food crisis.

Thailand one of the world's biggest rice exporters has already cut exports and many countries in SEA cannot find enough rice to feed the poorest people at a sustainable level.

hmmm...... I'm feeling peckish I'm going to eat something.

Date: 2008/04/18 03:40:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Erasmus said...
Quote
...one rugby whore with a black eye and a knot on her forehead...


Oh ........so you know that girl as well. Does she still do that trick where she holds your arms behind your head and gets you to lift both of your knees behind your ears while you're on your back and doesn't stop until the pub reopens the next day?

Date: 2008/04/18 05:24:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (PTET @ April 18 2008,12:29)
It's Tard Overdrive over at UD...
 
Quote

Berceuse
I’m disappointed in NewScientist for this. Anyone else feel conflicted when a magazine they otherwise enjoy taints their credibility with such naturalism?

Douglas Moran
If you’ve never played with Legos you won’t understand this concept: reuse of common building blocks is a strategy of design driven by intelligent forces, not by random serendipity.

Jonathan Sarfati
Barb, I also thought that chapter attacking the Bible was ludicrous. The christophobic author relies on suhc amazingly scholarly sources as Wikipedia...

This is truly a war of stupidity vs. reality.

Keep in mind ....their reality model is; Big Bang to talking snakes with legs in Eden in only 6 days.

I've said it before Pres. Bill (I'm a very charming bastard) Clinton has a lot to answer for, by redefining the word "is".

Incest, pedophilia, premature ejaculation and devil/Darwin worship are all the result of Eve discovering that g$d gave her eggs instead of taking up a spot on Mt Zeus and commanding every living being into existence from dirt for eternity.

Typical lazy pleasure seeking male......eats, roots, shoots and leave's ......then comes up with the lame excuse attributing her plight to "The Fall"...but hey look at the bright side ....patriarchal monotheism would be nowhere without polygamy, buggery, cattle rustling and getting rid of gods with skirts.

Date: 2008/04/19 07:56:00, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Gunthernacus @ April 19 2008,09:28)
Atom:
   
Quote

Not polite to go to someone’s house and call them an IDiot.

No, that isn't polite.  If you go to someone's house and you think he's an idiot, you don't call him an idiot - you knock up his wife.


From JB's site
 
Quote

Then the capstone which pretty much offended all the Christians, I wrote in response to a man (not sure who) who wasn't sure if women were instinctually attracted to intelligent men for the biological father of their babies:


"You wouldn't be wondering if you'd had a number of other men's wives yelling at you in the height of passion "I want to have your baby!". It's a little disconcerting at first but you get used to it. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. Some guys prefer to make the world's children smarter by becoming teachers and some guys prefer to make them smarter through better genetics. It's all good. -ds"

HAHAHA - I kill me sometimes! That's only partly in jest. It only happened to me once, right after I got out of the Marines, not a number of times. But it did result in one very bright boy raised by parents who were both dumb as a mud fence.
.....gee anything over an IQ of 80 must be special eh Dt? That little socipath will soon be ruling the world right? Brazil all over again.

THAT'S RITE YOU HOMO'S, YOU ALL THINK I'M A ONE TRICK PONY.
WELL I AINT.
THAT ONE TIME WITH MRS. MUD FENCE WAS JUST THE START NOW I HAVE A WHOLE FUNDY SECT I SCREW ON A DAILY BASIS JUST CHECK THE UD SLUTS WHO HANG AROUND FOR MY BONE. WHY K.F. WANTS MY BABY, BA77 WANTS A LITTLE TARD, EVEN BILL PROMISED ME ONE OF HIS ANGELS AFTER HE WAS FINISHED WITH HER...erm IF HE ACTUALLY FINDS HER, GOOD LUCK BILL THAT SEXY CARDIGAN WILL HAVE THEM KILLING EACH OTHER FOR YOUR CHARMING BLANK "I'LL HYPNOTIZE YOU FOR JESUS" STARE.
I CAN'T WAIT.
I HOPE SHE IS AS EXPERIENCED AS ME BECAUSE IN THE HEIGHT OF PASSION I DON'T WANT TO BE THINKING OF MUD FENCES.
THAT WILL MAKE IT 2 FEMALES IN 20 YEARS. (I DON'T COUNT MY WIFE SHE ONLY MARRIED ME BECAUSE I READ SCI-AM AND THINKS I'M REALLY SMAART rolls eyes, BUT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCIENCE, JUST POLITICS)
THAT MUST BE A RECORD.

I AM THE DON JUAN OF ID, THE CASSANOVA OF PSEUDO, THE UD GANGSTA' OF LOVE, A BACK DOOR MAN, A SPERM DONOR TO THE MUD FENCED RED NECK MARINE GROUPIES WHO AFTER 2 BOTTLES OF SOMETHING CHEAP CAN'T RESIST ME er just make that ONE MUD FENCED RED NECK MARINE GROUPIE WHO AFTER 2 BOTTLES OF SOMETHING CHEAP DIDN'T RESIST ME...once.

HAHA I KILL ME SOMETIMES MY REAL KIDS DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE AN OLDER 1/2 TARD BROTHER.

MY WIFE DIDN'T WANT KIDS FOR A LONG TIME. I HAD TO PRETEND I WAS A FRIEND OF MINE BEFORE SHE WOULD HAVE SEX WITH ME.
SHE MADE ME DRESS UP AS AN AIRLINE PILOT AND THEN GO ROUND TO THE BACK DOOR AND KNOCK QUIETLY.
SHE WOULD LET ME IN AND PRETEND THAT I WAS OUT WALKING THE DOGS WHILE SHE FUCKED THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF HIM AND SCREAMED BILL! BILL! BILL! AT THE HEIGHT OF PASSION. dt.

Date: 2008/04/19 21:33:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (blipey @ April 20 2008,04:53)
DaveTard answers his phone!  But he's not going to meet with me, even though I'm in his neighborhood again!

DaveTard: Hey.

Blipey: I'm stopping by your neck of the woods.

DaveTard: You are?

Blipey: Yeah.

DaveTard:  Who is this?

Blipey:  Blipey.

DaveTard:  Uhhh...

Blipey:  Yeah.  I could stop if you want to show me your dogs, or something.

DaveTard:  Uh, no.  No interest.

Blipey:  Oh, that's....

DaveTard:  Don't call back.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

With balls that size no wonder he had one real fuck, thankyou Mrs. Mud Fence .........once.

OK YOU HOMOS I'M NOT A PUSSY...OK?...OK?

......I'VE GOT A GUN, A LOADED SHERRIF AND SAVAGE DOGS THAT CAN BITE OFF YOUR BALLS

..I KNOW......

THEY TRIED TO BITE MINE OFF ONCE BUT LUCKY FOR ME I DON'T HAVE ANY. dt

Date: 2008/04/20 04:57:28, Link
Author: k.e..
I don't have a photo and it wasn't in the backyard, that only has boring Australian parrots anyway...this was in my kitchen.

A mouse ran around the counter top and thought the toaster would be a good place to hide.......

Date: 2008/04/20 08:48:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ April 20 2008,13:18)
I want to write a song for DaveTard called "Extreme Clown Fear" or something similar. I may have to nip off and work on it. It will be, of course, a work of unadulterated thrash metal goodness.

Louis

Oh wunderbar...... I'm trembling with anticipation.

But....Please, can you keep it short this time?

I hate to see all your scintillating talent wasted on one of your long traversable only by neurotic foxglove chewing Cypriot mountain goat with post coital drip and overbite posts here; do you have an electron recycling plant near your location?

Can I suggest getting a spare DVD-RW and venting your creative spleen to that? ...there should be enough room on it, a 4.5GB DVD will take about 4.5 billion characters of text...you know.

Then if you still consider granting us the indisputable joy of kneeling on crushed glass while getting flogged by the head boys jockstrap at the same time as getting an enema from Miss Trunchbull who has placed a wet empty coal sack over your head at the top of the masters landing while sickly smelling no name soup served to the other boys drifts up the stairs, load it up to ibackup.com and just give the link.

Date: 2008/04/20 10:05:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (themadlolscientist @ April 20 2008,17:34)
Quote (Annyday @ April 20 2008,06:37)
Old people are evil.

Hey, I resemble that remark! says the almost-55-year-old flaming liberal crazy woman... :D

Or, as my former Significant Other used to say:

"The older I get, the more radical I get. I'm going to be a Red Depends Senior Citizen."

Obama for President.

Viva La Revolucion!

Date: 2008/04/20 10:42:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 20 2008,18:22)
Poor Dog_of_War
Quote

You figure about 4 people per showing (just a number I pulled out of the air, but it seems reasonable), 1,050 theaters with 2 showings per theater, that’s 8,400 people per day.
At 7 dollars per ticket, that’s $58,800 a day. Not a big number as movie grosses go, but it adds up. Over a reasonable run, that could easily add up to over a million dollars.
Well, you’re only off by a bit over two orders of magnitude. Now go away. -UD admin

It doesn't seem to be a bannination, as Dog_of_War replies to this, so RB can calm down.

Nochange 's response is sarcastic bewilderment
Quote

2 orders of magnitude? You think that there are 400 people sneaking into each theater? That would mean that most of the viewers were Darwinists.
I hope the Expelled group has a good legal team, and starts suing the theaters for not providing proper care to extract payment for the movie.

400 people per 1/2 day per theatre?

Dang!

That's a lot of dissent!

Do you think he might have meant 1/40th of a person per half day per theatre?

Dr Dr 2 orders of magnitude, no scale given; has given himself an out.

Date: 2008/04/20 10:54:54, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
Both Dog's reply and Nochange's remarks have been obliviated. I think we have at least one bannination, if not two.


Fuck that must drive them nuts.

Meanwhile....at the compound....

Bill: Hey Dt....the drain is blocked again.
Dt: I did it last time, you fix it hisself.
Bill: Listen you useless piece of lard get yur ass over here and clean up this mess.
Dt: I'm sick of you...you're starting to sound like that prick Dell.
Bill: Now, now Dt....remember I let you get your hand on the big one after your little hissyfit over Dame Dykemorph, now work your magic.
Dt: I wanna kiss.
Bill: Push the button and wait.
Dt: Oooooh thankyou sweetykins.

Date: 2008/04/21 07:32:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ April 20 2008,20:21)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 20 2008,14:48)
 
Quote (Louis @ April 20 2008,13:18)
I want to write a song for DaveTard called "Extreme Clown Fear" or something similar. I may have to nip off and work on it. It will be, of course, a work of unadulterated thrash metal goodness.

Louis

Oh wunderbar...... I'm trembling with anticipation.

But....Please, can you keep it short this time?

I hate to see all your scintillating talent wasted on one of your long traversable only by neurotic foxglove chewing Cypriot mountain goat with post coital drip and overbite posts here; do you have an electron recycling plant near your location?

Can I suggest getting a spare DVD-RW and venting your creative spleen to that? ...there should be enough room on it, a 4.5GB DVD will take about 4.5 billion characters of text...you know.

Then if you still consider granting us the indisputable joy of kneeling on crushed glass while getting flogged by the head boys jockstrap at the same time as getting an enema from Miss Trunchbull who has placed a wet empty coal sack over your head at the top of the masters landing while sickly smelling no name soup served to the other boys drifts up the stairs, load it up to ibackup.com and just give the link.

Have you forgotten your excessively large quantity of medication again?

Or are you merely overexicted by the proximity of your latest penis gourd haul?

Either way, just remember that you are a Colonial and thus lesser. Not lesser at anything per se, just lesser.

That's him told, who next?

Louis

P.S. Whilst you're at it, try to make sense. There's a good chap.

Brilliantly sparse!

Not quite 25 words or less but you could almost qualify for a carbon credit.

On a lesser note, if you want to live in god zone where the seagulls don't have to fly upside down because they feel sorry for pommies.....I'll put in a good word for you...maybe.

k.e..

P.S. You are right about my medication though....but I've never heard it called medication before.

Date: 2008/04/21 08:12:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 20 2008,22:44)
as for you k.e.. having feverish visions sure sucks you should keep that thing washed out.  if the mortar and pestle has creases you can't let it drip dry you know.  some never dry anyway.  


Dang.....so you know that girl Ms. Pestle as well?

How do you like it when she puts one leg over your shoulder while face to face horizontal folk dancing on your side? I'm going to have to have a word with her....she's trying to cut out my rugby scrummaging femme.

Quote

?AND SHUT UP WHILE UR DOIN IT TOO.  IM NOT SCARED OF CLOWNS OR WIZZERDS AND MY WIFE LETS ME DO WHATEVER I WANT TO HER EXCEPT UNLOCK HER BELT BUT I DONT WANT TO GO THERE ANYWAY DADDY SAID THEY HAD TEETHS.  BUT I DONT REALLY CARE LETS JUST SAY I AM A VERILY SATISFIED SELF MADE MESOMILLIONER DIDACK MORPH AND I KNOW A LOT OF IMPORTANT PEOPLES NAMES AND SOME OF THEM BILL HAS PUBLISHED ON THE INTERNET.  MY DOGS ARE ALWAYS DRUNK, MY SHOT GUN IS BEHIND THE DOOR AND YOU HAVE TO GET PAST MY RETARDED NEPHEW WHOSE PARENTS WERE DARWINIST WORSHIPPING CHANCE LIBERALS AND JOINED THE FAMILY AND HE HAS BIG TEETH AND THREE STRONG ARMS ALL OF WHICH ARE BIGGER THAN YOURS BUT SMALLER THAN YOUR WIFES.  HAHAH I KILL ME SOMETIMES YOU KILL GREAT BLUE HERONS WITH HYDROPLATES AND MICHAEL DELL THINKS UR GAY.


ok now you are feeling the force.....

I'll give that an 8.75

Stumbled on the finish, but didn't break anything.

I recommend a straight nip of the worlds best single malt and thinking of Louis* in frilly red lace underwear with suspenders, red stockings and hot pink lipstick, big assed dancing on a hot steamy palm fringed tropical beach at sunset while on some stupid dance drug with a bunch of comely mulatto women wearing only bananas in their hair.

....actually....make that a very large tumbler of whiskey.... any bloody thing and quickly!

* This won't happen because Louis is allergic to red polyester, mulatto women...and ....he's British. They won't do things like that since;
1. The Empire was sold to the Yanks to pay for teeth improvement in the general population...didn't work of course.
2. No one would introduce him .....so he would only sit at the bar by himself then retire to the library.

Date: 2008/04/21 08:23:01, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 21 2008,16:04)
Poor Dave
 
Quote
21 April 2008
Adminstrative: Spam Filter Acting Up
DaveScot

The Akisment spam filter is acting up and holding up a lot of comments it shouldn’t be blocking. If your comment doesn’t appear right away where in the past it had then it’s the spam filter. Every single one of my comments are being held up in it. So are about a dozen other members’ here.

Don’t ask why because I don’t know why…

It hiccups like this occasionally and goes away soon. I suspect it gets noticed and fixed at Akismet during normal working hours so it’s more prone to become a bothersome issue on weekends.


Can't bring himself to admit in public that he's been put in moderation too.

Yeah what's he going to have to do to grovel his way back in when "like....we own this space...man" Expelled is blown out of its entire raison d'être by the premier ID blog of the universe.

Bill's jack boot on the neck of reason may just be enough to let Mr Springer get on with that gardening he likes doing....permanently....I can dream.

Date: 2008/04/21 08:27:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
That may or may not be the case, but the Akismet filter has been acting up lately, and it is an occasional problem across WordPress.


Should we take bets on how long DS's comments live?

Date: 2008/04/21 09:04:00, Link
Author: k.e..
Indeed.

Or just fill the discretionary couch time channels with vomit AKA theo-GWD is great-propaganda.

Praise the messiah ( Rev. Moon), big Carbon, Boing-blood & bombs et processed fat advertising.

Date: 2008/04/21 10:03:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 21 2008,17:19)
Blake Stacey graciously gave me permission to host his essay on Creation, Power, and Violence at AE.

Fundamentalist Myth based Conservative Ideology and Identity Politics both require the removal of any objective truth test AKA Darwinism or the scientific method and their replacement of that by subjective propaganda to usher in their Brave New World.

The first victim of war.

Date: 2008/04/21 10:27:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
I have. Not even making up entirely phoney scientific terms could get me banned. :)


But....but....that site is pee-er reviewed, the last bastion of truth,  beyond reproach, a haven for the science genius, the factitions measure, the bravest explorers of hard cold facts, investigators with steal trap minds!

What a disgusting set of circumstances....I'm flabbergasted, discombobulated, in a pique , outraged, obstreperous, blooming rope able.

.....hold on a minute...they're just twits right?

I'm just pissed I missed it.

Date: 2008/04/21 10:52:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 21 2008,18:37)
Har har Tranny Gay!



Show, Tranneh Ghay, Dohn't mesh with Jhamesh Bhond!

spooky .....Louis on that beach

Date: 2008/04/22 07:05:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ April 22 2008,11:17)
Crikey! I've gone from Jabba to Sean in the same thread! That diet seems to have paid off. Or not.

Louis

Well yes...except for one small detail.

Both the characters in those photos have charisma.

Date: 2008/04/22 07:57:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (ERV @ April 22 2008,05:44)
THANK YOUUUU!!!

Now I have to tell you all my favorite birthday story.  One day, I got one of these stupid forwards from my friends-- put in your birth date and it gave you your 'life path' number and horoscope and all that crap... plus your 'conceived on' date.

I was conceived on my moms birthday.

*blink*

I was blind for a week after taking that stupid survey.

May it serve as a warning to you all.

Happy Birthday to you ERV

Speaking of coincidences. Two females from Edin ( Yes Eve and a friend) one late night February 2008 in Bangkok congratutaled me with a Happy Birthday ...it was a misconception.


Carpe Testes!

Date: 2008/04/22 08:14:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (hereoisreal @ April 22 2008,16:09)
The other day I needed to pay a visit to the public toliet, so I found a public toilet that had two cubicles.

One of the doors was locked. So I went into the other one, closed the door, dropped my trousers and sat down.

A voice came from the cubicle next to me: 'Hello mate, how are you doing?'

Although I thought that it was a bit strange, I didn't want to be rude, so I replied 'Not too bad thanks.'

After a short pause, I heard the voice again 'So, what are you up to?'

Again I answered, somewhat reluctantly, 'Just having a quick crap... How about yourself?'

The next thing i heard him say was ...... 'Sorry mate, I'll have to call you back. I've got some nut in the cubicle next to me answering everything I say.'

Schizophrenia is a bitch.

Date: 2008/04/22 09:05:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ April 22 2008,16:43)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2008,13:05)
Quote (Louis @ April 22 2008,11:17)
Crikey! I've gone from Jabba to Sean in the same thread! That diet seems to have paid off. Or not.

Louis

Well yes...except for one small detail.

Both the characters in those photos have charisma.

Heeyyyyyyy I've got charisma coming out of my pocket protector and four inch too short trouser legs I'll have you know.

Anyway K.E. why you gots to be a player-hater? Are you trying to compensate for your own gross inadequacies again? Why yes you are!

Louis

see what I mean

k.e..

P.S. I don't hate you Louis I just love watching you come up with lame excuses...which will do until Dt's next fall....besides you love it.

P.P.S Player?....oh yes right...of course...say no more...WINK WINK....I'm sorry I can't chaperone your next outing...if you get permission that is.

Date: 2008/04/22 09:19:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Annyday @ April 22 2008,16:55)
 
Quote (guthrie @ April 22 2008,03:04)
 
Quote (Annyday @ April 21 2008,22:23)
I've never liked Arthur C. Clarke's writing much, outside of his idioms. See, the joy of sci fi for me is, to a great degree, wondering what a technology would do or how you'd make it. Clarke breaks out that indistinguishable-from-magic stuff for all the important things, which I find a fantastic buzz-kill. When you have technology that's indistinguishable from magic and/or acts of God, why bother making it sci fi at all? The monolith could have been constructed by voodoo and not a lot would have been lost!
.

Cuba!

I have to defend Clarke here.  In terms of "magic technology" he was no different from any of his contemporaries.  But he did also write some decent hard SF, I recently re-read "A fall of moondust", and it was about as hard SF as you're going to get, certainly more so than anything I have seen on the shelves today.  Clarke couldnt go "nanotech!" every time he wanted to do something odd.

You're probably right. Actually, even when his stories fill up with psychics and alien-gods there's some great, down-to-earth sci-fi going on during the lead-in.

OK HOMO'S, YOU ALL TALK ABOUT GIRLYMAN SCI-FI LIKE IT OWNS THE SPACE.

WELL ME 'N MY ROBOSHERIFF ARE HEAR TO TELL YOU IT AINT HARD CORE SCI-FI.

NO HARD CORE SCI-FI™ IS ALL ABOUT NANOBOTS GETTING INTO YOUR PANTS AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT BEING UNDER THE SPELL OF A CRAZED PSUEDO SCIENTIST WHO MEASURES YOUR VALUE BY YOUR SUPIDITY AND YOUR LOVE FOR HIM er OR HER ...MY HARD CORE SCI-FI™ IS NOT HOMO EROTIC PER SE BUT NONSEXIST..phew I STILL CARE ABOUT YOU BILL ....SORRY ABOUT THE DARWIN THING. PLEASE ANSWER MY PHONE CALLS..dt.

Date: 2008/04/22 09:29:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 22 2008,17:26)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 22 2008,09:13)
BIOLOGIC WEBSITE GOES LIVE!

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....es-live

Oooh, think of all those things Darwinism can't do! Waterloo!

Edit to add - the homepage seems to be doing CheesyPoof Salad research... DT?

I have it on good information that, like any real science lab, that they use various animal surrogates in their research.


And to think somewhere way back in time we share genes with that cute little charismatic thief.

Louis must be jealous.

Date: 2008/04/22 10:00:11, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 22 2008,17:41)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2008,09:29)
And to think somewhere way back in time we share genes with that cute little charismatic thief.

Louis must be jealous.

I'd be careful if I were you, k.e.  Louis is not afraid of confrontation and you know how touchy he is about being inferior to us "colonials".

HA HA THIS IS LOUIS


hahahahahahaha

I think Louis could only savage that suit with wet lettuce.

BRING IT ON.

Date: 2008/04/22 21:10:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2008,00:15)
This bit is from Pure Pedantry:

 
Quote
We could look to science; at least it has got some solid truths worked out. In a sense, science attempts to circumvent our innate psychological handicaps in two ways. 1) It cheats. We run experiments over and over until it gets the right answer by brute force. 2) The scientific method involves the voluntary suspension of your intuition. What matter is what the data shows, not the way you think the world should work.


This is something I see all the time between scientists and the laypublic. A lot of creationist people see evolution or relativity or whatever other science they deny and it looks ridiculous to them or violates their common sense and so they reject it. One of the great benefits of getting an actual science education is that it forces you to overcome this. An answer can look completely right to you, and yet it's completely wrong, and as you go through the years you are forced to deal with this situation several times. It's an important lesson to learn, and it's a shame the creationist types never learn it.

Pure projection.

Just replace "science" with Lunatic Fundy Suicide Head Butter, "think" with gut feeling, "intuition" with The Creator™, then "data" with Myth and you see his reality.

Date: 2008/04/22 22:58:13, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2008,05:00)
Quote (Henry J @ April 22 2008,20:46)
 
Quote
Behe Moth?


If Behe's a moth, Dembski had better protect that sweater...

Henry

If Behe's a moth, we should glue him to a tree and prove evolution.  :D

Better still ...

...Photoshop a whole herd of Behemoths kneeling and praying in a farty testament to the Great Old Pantheon.

Date: 2008/04/22 23:53:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 23 2008,05:21)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2008,22:10)
Lunatic Fundy Suicide Head Butter,

The Moon always gets such a bad rap.

Who decided it was OK to blame the moon for the ...erm... loonies?

According to J. Campbell in his book

Oriental Mythology    
The Masks of God, Volume II

The moon was the primary symbol of early goddess myth based agricultural societies in the Levant prior to the rise of Bronze Age genocidal warrior cattle herders who founded monotheistic based religious myths that surprisingly killed off all other belief systems..and their followers.


The Moon was associated with the growing cycle and fertility thus signifying the feminine, dark moods & hysteria, multiplicity of states of being and complex regularity.

The Egyptians God Kings ditched the Moon and made the Sun their totem signifying optimism, simplicity and the one true God, no others need apply ( we have swords and dangly bits so get off our pillows).

Naturally Moses liked that bit, plus he got a kick ass grip on the minds of the group which serves all the Abrahamic myth based theologies (Islam, Judaism, Xanity) right down to today. I just hope I'm not in the firing line when they push the big red one to decide who has the bigger dick.

The ancient Egyptian word for sun god was Amun-Ra from which we get our word Amen.
The  Egyptian's believed in a literal living god as well of course and his son was the King of the day. Not unlike GWB in the eyes of Fundygelickals.

What that has to do with lunatic ID nutters I’m not sure.

*edited for slightly more polemic

Date: 2008/04/23 00:14:58, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Ftk @ April 23 2008,07:05)
Rich...

If you'll be so kind, would you mind pointing out exactly where Dembski states that ID is an "alternative to evolutionary theory"?

[Please note, again dear, that there is a *world of difference* between "evolutionary theory" and "Darwinism".  That is what I was trying point out to Rob when he worded his comment the way he did.]

God help you FTK……. do you actually hang on to the words of a failed unemployable mathematician who props up his sly obsequious angel hunting with hopelessly tangled prose masquerading as understated bible thumping, that in the end, when unraveled means absolutely nothing? Not to mention shoe horning Mr. Darwin the man into Herr Hitler’s boots, in manner that would make any PR firm owner proud…much to Mr. Springer’s disgust BTW.

If you don't believe that, have you seem the peer reviews?

How does it feel to live a lie?  

Oh sorry now I remember …..you can’t tell what a lie is because you have no way of knowing what a fact is.

Carry on.

Date: 2008/04/23 00:19:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 23 2008,07:56)
Nice work BLipey. Are you staying in DaveTard's guest room?

too funny

Date: 2008/04/23 03:52:54, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 23 2008,11:15)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 23 2008,02:07)
NO WAY HOMO I WILL BE WATCHING YOU CHANCE WROSHIPERS FROM MY BASEMENT COMPOUND THAT ME AND BILL BUILT A FEW YEARS BACK TO DO SOME BIOLOGIC LAB STUFF WITH SOME INUITS.  IT IS OBVIOUSLY DESIGNED AS IT IS BOTH NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT BECUASE YOU ARE LIBRUL AND GAY AND PROBABLY A SECRET CLOWN.  GIT OFF OF MY YARD BLIPEY.



I used to play SIMS too but it never occurred to me to build a family of wingnuts living in an underground bomb shelter.

The SIMPSONS???

Yeah I remember that episode "Bart's Comet"
here are few good lines.

Homer: Okay, if you're that worried about it, let's go down to the bomb shelter.
Lisa: We have a bomb shelter?
Homer: Homer Simpson takes care of his family. (cut to Homer banging on a door) Flanders! Open up!  

Kent Brockman: Over the years, a newsman learns a number of things that for one reason or another, he just cannot report. It doesn't seem to matter now, so… the following people are gay. (a list of names scrolls past very quickly)  

Homer: It's times like this I wish I were a religious man.
Reverend Lovejoy: It's all over, people! We don't have a prayer!  

Homer: Lisa, the whole reason we have elected officials is so we don't have to think all the time. Just like that rainforest scare a few years back. Our officials saw there was a problem and they fixed it, didn't they?
Lisa: No, Dad, I don't think--
Homer: Ah-ah! There's that word again.  

Thought I'd just share that.

Date: 2008/04/23 03:56:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ April 23 2008,11:49)
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 23 2008,01:56)
 
Quote (Louis @ April 22 2008,20:54)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 23 2008,01:43)
   
Quote (Louis @ April 22 2008,20:29)
   
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 23 2008,01:23)
     
Quote
63 guests, 11 Public Members and 1 Anonymous Members   [ View Complete List ]
>Lou FCD >Amadan >wetlabmonkey >Jasper >didymos >khan >caerbannog >BestPornoTeen >Louis >Annyday >Quidam


That right there is better than a Paul Nelson sighting.

I'm just worried that the spacers appear to be arrows pointing at me!

BestPornoTeen>Louis? No.

BestPornoTeen<Louis? Hell yes!

Louis

:)

Wishing you all the best of luck, Louis.

To be honest even I'm not sure what I meant by that. It's bloody late and I still have to drive home. It sounded good though. I reckon there should be a competition, like a caption competition, to work out the best slogan explaining that post.

Then again, that would probably be a staggeringly bad idea.

Louis

Ah, I call B.S.

You're just lookin' to stay out of trouble with Mrs. Louis.

Damn. Rumbled. Schtum Schtum!

Louis

Funny names for Girls... Damn. Rumbled. Schtum Schtum! are you sure they aren't ......(charismatic)GERBILS?

Date: 2008/04/23 07:01:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Paul Flocken @ April 23 2008,14:23)
And I would really like to hurl a few choice vulgarities at FtK too, but the decorum of the board is hurt badly enough by her mere presence!

NOW WE'RE TALKING!

DECORUM IS WHAT THIS BOARD COULD DO WITH A LOT MORE OF I'M THINKING OF LOUIS AND ARDEN TO START WITH.

OH YOU MAY TRY AND ASSINATE MY CHARACTER WITH LIES AND INUENDO ..AND FALSEHOODS ..AND SMUTTY TALK ..AND INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL REFERENCES ..AND BEASTLY BEHAVIOR ...AND ACUSE ME OF BEING IN THE WRONG PLACES... BUT LET HE WHO HAS NOT CAST THE FIRST GERBIL BE THE LAST MAN STANDING er OR WHOSOEVER WOULD LET HIS MOTHER KNIT CODPIECES FOR THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS (THAT'S YOU RTH) SHALL FOREVER REMAIN DAMNED IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE DID or WHATEVER.

....AND YOU ERASMUS JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T REMEMBER YOU STRAIGHT OFF DOESN'T LET YOU OFF THE HOOK EITHER....NO,NO,NO!

NOW WHERE WAS I...OH YES THAT'S RIGHT DECORUM.

NOW THAT BILLY BOY HAS CAST OFF HIS LAST SHACKLES OF HONESTY BY OPENLY STATING THE FACT THAT LINKING DARWIN TO HITLER IS TO HIM PRAGMATIC POLITICAL EXPEDIENCEY HE HAS A FEW 200 LITER DRUMS OF THE STUFF IN HIS GARAGE HE WANTS TO GET RID OF. DON'T WORRY THEY WERE NEVER OPENED SO THEY REMAIN UNTAINTED.

Date: 2008/04/23 07:56:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 23 2008,15:50)
Birdie porn:

Couple of Mockingbirds* doing the mid-air mambo just outside my bedroom window.

They had feathers right?

*Bird is English slang for female

Date: 2008/04/23 10:45:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 23 2008,18:35)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 23 2008,01:15)
     
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 23 2008,02:07)
NO WAY HOMO I WILL BE WATCHING YOU CHANCE WROSHIPERS FROM MY BASEMENT COMPOUND THAT ME AND BILL BUILT A FEW YEARS BACK TO DO SOME BIOLOGIC LAB STUFF WITH SOME INUITS.  IT IS OBVIOUSLY DESIGNED AS IT IS BOTH NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT BECUASE YOU ARE LIBRUL AND GAY AND PROBABLY A SECRET CLOWN.  GIT OFF OF MY YARD BLIPEY.



I used to play SIMS too but it never occurred to me to build a family of wingnuts living in an underground bomb shelter.

I love that picture of the happy Cleaver family in their bomb shelter. Aside from the insanely cool retro furniture, I like the Bob Dobbs pipe the husband has, the wife and her June Cleaver apron, as well the teenaged daughter obediently setting the table. (Isn't there supposed to be a spunky 10-YO son with a slingshot in his back pocket as well? Or was he killed in the blast?) They're all so perky despite the nuclear holocaust that's taken place just outside, killing millions of people and rendering life as they had previously known it completely impossible forever. No mention of how long they'll have to live down in that little room, with no apparent entertainment except those four magazines and whatever faint distress signal their shortwave radio can receive.

Dig the manly '50's name of the author, too: Chuck West. Screams out "even though I wrote a book, that doesn't make me a homo!"

Chuck West? what about Hardon Chatterbox?

* edited for extra gayness

Date: 2008/04/23 20:00:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 24 2008,01:37)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 23 2008,18:03)
What's Joseph Campbell's take on penis sheaths?

He covered that in "Hero with a Thousand Phalluses."

Wouldn't that be nice?

Date: 2008/04/24 11:20:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 24 2008,18:09)
Over at UD they seem to be batching comments based on getting through the moderation queue review. Way to go free speech advocates, you're a lesson for us all.

HEY YOU HOMOS.WHO THE HELL SAID SPEECH WAS FREE? MY FRIEND BILL (BILL I'M REALLY SORRY ABOUT THOSE DARWIN QUOTES I'M GOING THROUGH MEIN KAMPF  RIGHT NOW LOOKING FOR ANYTHING HITLER SAID ABOUT HIM BUT ALL I FIND IS GOD TALK. HE'S JUST LIKE YOU) SEZ SPEECH COSTS MONEY AND BOY DOES HE KNOW HOW TO CHARGE FOR A SPEECH. WHO ELSE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE COST OF FREE LUNCH SPEECH THAN BILL? OH YOU MAY MENTION THE MESSIAH BUT THE REV. MOON PAYS FOR ALL THAT INK AND PAPER SO PICK ON SOMEONE ELSE. dt.

Date: 2008/04/25 10:08:58, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 25 2008,17:46)
Quote (Louis @ April 25 2008,03:21)
The falconry is very alluring but the beard and general maleness leave much to be desired. I'm not Arden Chatfield after all!

Indeed. Just last night your wife was very grateful that you're not me. :)

Make that a charismatic teasing peregrine with a beard and I'm glad I'm not you and so is my wife, if I had one, fortunately my live in lover of 24 years is not married especially to me. Which means if I ever do get married I'll make sure I'll be long gone before Arden gets wind of it. Louis on the otherhand.....well he should rest one.

Date: 2008/04/25 10:28:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (BWE @ April 25 2008,09:34)
I think it's time to bring this one back up:
First, here's the link.

Before you read the post, I want you to note the fine craftsmanship and technique in creating one of the most rare and beautiful forms of tard, the irony layer cake. The systematic dexterity with which the author chooses precisely the predictive statements that, after the event, will illustrate the exact nature of the tard memepool that spawned it. The irony that becomes even more ironic after each phrase, the irony building on itself until it reaches a magnificent crescendo of tard all Wagnerian cymbal crashing like, leaving the reader spent, exhausted from the dizzying tightening of the wingnut of tard.

This is why Dave is the masterTard. He admits to no parallel among the wingnuttosphere:


     
Quote
DaveScot

04/16/2008

11:32 am

This is getting funny. Not long ago the chance worshippers were wondering if Expelled had a big enough budget to licence teh Bad To The Bone music.

Now it’s looking more like a documentary category killer.

In other words it’s all like “we own the space”.

I wonder when it’ll make it to HBO and after that probably FOX broadcasting.


Friends, this is history in the making.

Note the date of the first post. Now note the date of the second:
link

     
Quote
DaveScot

04/18/2008

2:27 am

A legal beagle somewhere (I forget where) pointed out that there have been fewer than 10 cases of copyright infringement brought against documentary films and of those only 3 were successful for the complainant. Documentary films evidently have far greater immunity in copyright claims.


then just a touch farther down the same page:

     
Quote
DaveScot

04/18/2008

8:56 am

“Imagine no possessions” is something that Yoko Ono doesn’t seem to agree with. She possesses all of Lennon’s music and milks it for every dime she can get out of it.


followed by:

     
Quote
DaveScot

04/20/2008

2:52 pm

Typically, lifetime box office receipts are 10 times the opening weekend receipts.

I have no idea what it will earn from cable and broadcast (HBO/FOX perhaps), DVD sales, and branded memorabilia.

It certainly looks like the cost will be recouped many times over before all is said and done.
link

OH NICE WORK HOMO!

THAT IS A TYPICAL DARWINIST TECHNIQUE.

USE OUR QUOTES OUT OF CONTEXT CONTACT WITH REALITY TO SHOW YOUR POINT.

DON'T YOU GET IT?

WHEN WE DECLARE WATERLOO WE MEAN YOKO DOVER.

IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN.

YOU FALL INTO OUR CLEVER TRAP.

YOU MAKE SENSE BUT WE MAKE MARTYRS.

OUR MARTYRS DRIVE ID INTO THE REAL WORLD OF MONEY LAW AND FACTS WITH TARD BELTS STRAPPED TO THEIR CHESTS.

LOOK AT OUR OTHER SUCCESSES……..

.....OK THEN, LOOK AT ME ......I PREDICTED "LIKE WE OWN A SPACE BROOM CLOSET IN BAYLOR" AND WE ALMOST DID IT


SO THERE HOMOS dt

Date: 2008/04/25 10:59:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 25 2008,18:42)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 25 2008,10:38)
Here's the clever plan:

Make a movie
Steal peoples work
Make money
Get sued by Yoko Ono
Increases media frenzy
More people see it
So we make MORE money
(that we give to Yoko Ono)


GENIUS!

Well, they are graduates of the Underpants Gnomes School of Business.

The funny thing about that clip is that they look almost as daggy as Bill's sweeter...no wonder he can't get no Angel action.

Date: 2008/04/25 11:09:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 25 2008,18:24)
Miraculously, Bfast (short for breakfast?) confirms he's a tard, just when I was doubting:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-261723

 
Quote
18

bFast

04/25/2008

10:08 am
evo_materialist, “Alas, I do not, and neither has anybody I know in a way that’s not better explained naturally.”

Oh you poor soul. I have experienced many miracles. For the most part they are miracles of timing — natural enough events with a precision that is precious. Now, can they be explained naturally? Yup. Are they better explained naturally? No way! Your approach bores me.

SORRY ABOUT THAT HOMOS. I KNOW B'FAST IS A TURNIP TORNADO IN A TEA CUP BUT BILL LOVES THAT SORT OF THING.

HECK IF WE BANNED ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE ON UD ONLY I WOULD BE LEFT BEHIND..... WITH Mr. ANDRO MO'RPHADORK WHO IS BILL'S SPECIAL PET.... APART FROM ME AND THAT WOULD BE HELL.

NOT BECAUSE ONLY TWO OF US WOULD BE LEFT BUT I WOULD FINALLY HAVE TO FACE UP TO THE FACT THAT I'M NOT BILL'S FAVORITE LIKE I WAS WITH THAT GIRLYMAN Mr. DELL.

SO B'FAST STAYS

OK?

dt

Date: 2008/04/26 08:17:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 26 2008,14:51)
WAD on the irony of "Imagine":
       
Quote
Is “Imagine” Even Copyrightable?
William Dembski

Yoko Ono, as many readers of this blog by now know, is suing the producers of EXPELLED for using a brief clip of John Lennon’s song “Imagine.” One of the stanzas of the song reads:

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

Is it possible to copyright a song that disavows possessions (copyright being a form of possession)? Once Ono realizes the self-referential incoherence of her suit, I trust she’ll drop it.

Another irony: The principals at Premise Media are dwelling upon the first line of this verse.

WmAD ........the gift that keeps on giving.

OH NOSE ......ANOTHER PARAGIM SHIFT

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Beautiful.

I think we may have a new book ...yes folks a new book from Mr Docdoc Dembskison (name orthoanglesized so he would fit in with the sons of the confederacy on a Texas Turnip Bible Gulag) .

The son of Yankee Eleetist Intellectuals who gave unto us their only  son (viciously spanked by mater) who, for their sins, ran away from home and gave his innocence to the circus Hallelujah Chorus of Angels who fuck for Moon The Messiah or some other equally pernicious "Mommy&Daddy did S&M on me" scalping crowd. (There, there baby come and suck on the teat of Moon...er (lowers voice) I mean Jesus)

Bill woke with a passionate intensity in a flea infested god dog house after being brought to his knees by his own rapture ...some might say raptor .....The falcon cannot hear the falconer

Now our remade half man half beast of the stony desert who art in Spiritus Christi while in a miasma fit for a revelation or a Second Coming produced 5 years troughing at Baylor's pig pen.


"The Arrogance of Irony" a new book by Billy "The Bleater" A. Demagogue.

Mr. Dem. with a A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun throws off his cloak of wool and grizzling, bears his slow thighs. (won’t those angels notice?)

His stony sleep has caused his mind to collapse inwards upon itself.

Call homeland security Yoko has stolen the music (...er but it's not property) to Expletive.. No stupidity ignored.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Dallas to be shorn?


Apologies to William Butler Yeats who is out of copyright (as far as I know)

Date: 2008/04/26 08:39:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (don_quixote @ April 26 2008,15:50)
Quote (melatonin @ April 25 2008,13:25)


Hi, I'm Robert Marks, a 57 year old engineer. You should stay clear of me, I'm scary. I like to eat sticks. I don't have any black belts - but do have lots of guns. When I went to the NRA convention in Seattle, my favorite umber sticker was "Beware of dog. He eats everything I shoot." I laughed my head off.  I like to shoot things for fun.

ABe: doh!

Is this the look he was aiming for...

Probably ...I'll bet he has bigger tits.

Date: 2008/04/26 08:43:18, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Louis @ April 26 2008,14:00)
Quote (Assassinator @ April 26 2008,11:46)
The "please be a sport, and help this make a constuctive discussion" was ment against skeptic, not you Louis ;) I don't really think you're too harsh, I amaze myself why I keep so calm sometimes.

But ofcourse, can't agree more, there can't be a fruitfull discussion without support for any claim. Now let's wait what he comes up with (I keep hoping, but that's just me).

LOL I know that.

And what on earth makes you think I'm not calm? I'm a nasty fucker, and peeved by Obliviot's use of his Standard Evasionary Playbook, but you don't see the person behind the keyboard chuckling merrily. I understand my phraseology might be intemperate, but don't mistake careless phraseology for careless emotion. When the evidence is advanced, the carelessness disappears.

We all live in hope. And, maybe my meanness to Obliviot has destroyed that hope (it's certainly provided him with umpteen excuses to avoid supporting his claims over the months), but to be honest if it has then he had nothing worth reading to contribute anyway. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If you repeatedly can't support your claims, then don't be upset by being ridiculed by someone who can support theirs.

Louis

Um yeah.....yawn.

Date: 2008/04/26 09:28:37, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Louis @ April 26 2008,16:52)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 26 2008,14:43)
Um yeah.....yawn.

Sorry K.e. did you have something useful to contribute?

I must have missed it in the edit you undoubtedly made snipping all argument, all dealing with any aspect of the discussion and basically anything other than concern trolling about what you don't like about my posts.

Want me to point out what I don't like about your posting style? Why do I doubt it? Why do I doubt you have even the barest modicum of self reflective ability to even understand you might also have something to answer for in that regard? Oh right, wait, you;re just fucking with me no doubt. How clever. {golf clap}

Until you have something helpful to offer why not shut the fuck up eh? Or maybe, point by point, carefully dissect what's wrong. You can't can you. Go back to penis jokes, they're all your good at, and even that is marginal.

Louis

P.S. I saw this elsewhere and thought it abundantly appropriate: Psych 101

Um yeah...says you.

Date: 2008/04/26 10:02:53, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (skeptic @ April 26 2008,17:35)
Assassinator,
if indeed we are facing the greatest threat humanity has ever known then my attitude is short-sighted.....

 ...blardy blah. I cynically agree but only just
 

.....Almost like a case of white guilt on the global level.  Again, while this may in fact be the case, the similarity to the existing agenda causes immediate skepticism and rejection.


quick point before I move on, Louis.... fuck off and write shorter I't will give you more time to chase pussy

Computer models - my experience does not reach the level of the massive super computers currently used but some of the basic principles are the same.....

I think I know everything .....but whateva....

 I develop predictive toxicity models for small molecules and the biggest trick in developing a relevant model is picking contributing variables.  If we relate this to climate, we want to make sure we pick variables that are actually involved in the climate in a causative manner and not just a correlative one......

  So you will have to prize my carbon footprint out of my cold dead hands ....

....This doesn't mean it's hopeless it just limits our level of confidence.....

Got that fuckers?


What we have is....

blah blah x 10^^52
.....
 but to be taken with a grain of salt or at least a moderate dose of skepticism when looking at the predictive power.

Gotta go for now but that's really just the tip of the iceberg  and that's just one topic, phew!

My brain is hurting


Oh yes please rush back and tell us teh glaciers are not melting but YOU are white so you don't have to give a fuck...again.

I can't wait.

Date: 2008/04/26 10:42:40, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (skeptic @ April 26 2008,18:14)
lol, not sure I mentioned that but the glaciers melt every year.  Otherwise thanks for your support.

Yes of course..... what's left of them do.... for now.

Date: 2008/04/26 10:45:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Hermagoras @ April 26 2008,17:49)
   
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 26 2008,00:31)
Hero, that's a UK address and phone numbers.  I'm pretty sure the Wallace at UD is a Yank.  If you have an edit button I suggest you remove the contact information: I doubt the Wallaces of Surrey will appreciate being called in the middle of the night to be accused of tardary.

I thought he was a Scot.

.......yes well I think he might have been born in Australia.


But you can have him.


*edit - Don't those extras look exited?
...hmmm the one on the left of Mr. "I'm not anti-semetic" Passion of Herr. Magdalene-Jesus looks like he's yawning the other, direct to camera on the right looks like a dog with two dicks. It sucks being famous and being upstaged on your own pet-Tard.

Mel: "this is the 15th take fr christsake!"
Dir: "Yeah, well you refused to have Jews on the set"
Mel: "WTF, there are Scottish Jews?"
Dir:  "Oy, they at least are sober on a Saturday"
Mel: "Just shoot the f*****g scene"

Date: 2008/04/27 11:01:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 27 2008,18:44)
It's gone quiet here, all of a sudden.  Was it something I said?

Louis farted

Date: 2008/04/27 13:12:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 27 2008,19:11)
Quote
#3 is incoherent whining.  What the hell is "science of the gaps"?


Apparently, that would be: "Science doesn't have an explanation for X right now, but we expect the X will be explained by science at some point in the future."

Which of course is ftk's corollary to "god of the gaps".

Date: 2008/04/27 13:46:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Art @ April 27 2008,21:29)
LOL

Commenter Jean asks about another commenter's publication record, responding to a quip about Berlinski. A quick check of Berlinski's h-factor on SCI yields a value of 1, and an average citation rate for his papers of 0.1 (probably rounded - he has three citations total for all 27 articles/notes/comments/reviews).

Yup, that's a real powerhouse of scholarly output.  Berlinski has been cited THREE times in scholarly works over the years.

And all probably IN HIS OWN publications!!

How can anyone forget Dr. Berlinski interviewing (wait for it...) Dr Berlinski.


Dr Berlinski (and so is my wife) has a persona not unlike our Dr. Dr. Dembski ...er except he's 2 assshats above and askew...or askhimself...or whateva.

PS. Louis isn't schizophrenic..... just the voices won't let him believe him.

Date: 2008/04/27 21:06:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (J-Dog @ April 28 2008,03:59)
Quote (Maya @ April 27 2008,19:11)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ April 27 2008,11:01)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 27 2008,18:44)
It's gone quiet here, all of a sudden.  Was it something I said?

Louis farted

k.e. is English?

I think he is from New Zealand.

Correct. I am a South Sea Pom. with dual nationality the other being shaoránaigh na hÉireann, to which I have never been.
An expatriot for 34 years and permanent resident of Oz.

Date: 2008/04/27 22:14:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 28 2008,04:46)
actually he is from Manchuria.  ran away and joined the sex trade and they took him in and taught him to speak.  at some point he fell on a punji stick in Laos and was forced to read the entirety of james joyce, then ran off to be human foot stool for allan ginsberg and was known as 'stool foot'.  jacques monod gave him an empty box for christmas and then he came here.

Ah so! grasscricket.
Kamu pampam kambing kambing sideways too?
A very inscrutable observation, now I will have to kill you.

Ginsberg did indeed play footsy with me..no wait that was my Math teacher at high school ....not that there is anything wrong with that.
The only Jacques I knew was a destitute froggy who had 2 shirts,  a pair of shoes, one pair of pants with a penchant for raw horse meat and going catatonic in restaurants in Bangkok after a fix, which was always followed by the ritual sacrifice of his glass "works".

Those Lao slavers did indeed teach me to speak, they were cunning linguists....Whilst I did run my glosses over Mr. JJ's works not far from Taipei with a girl called "cowboy" heigh yo silver! *eyes grow misty …..hums Andrews Sisters rendition of "Don't Fence Me In"*  
The Lao minister for immigration had me frog marched out of Vientiane for illegally joining a Buddhist Nunnery…oh the state of Nirvana I almost achieved there ...over and over…erm. I was only found out when the fat cook got jealous and sent a message to her Uncle who ran a transport business during the Vietnam War with 200 mules shipping "bone powder" out of the Golden Triangle to waiting Air America C-47s landing on the Plain of Jars… you don't argue with someone who helped cause the addiction to "smack" of over 50,000 dog soldiers…

After that I attempted to join the Diplomatic Service but was fired before I even started for asking the Head of Intelligence “Is that a banana you’re eating or is that your nose?”

I knew then that the only way I was ever going to lead a normal life was to give up my wicked ways and marry a librarian. Well it turned out her favourite author was the Marquis de Sade ….ouch.

I am now semi retired and investigating the possibility of life as a nude model for Ladies art classes.

Date: 2008/04/28 02:25:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 28 2008,07:39)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 27 2008,20:14)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 28 2008,04:46)
actually he is from Manchuria.  ran away and joined the sex trade and they took him in and taught him to speak.  at some point he fell on a punji stick in Laos and was forced to read the entirety of james joyce, then ran off to be human foot stool for allan ginsberg and was known as 'stool foot'.  jacques monod gave him an empty box for christmas and then he came here.

Ah so! grasscricket.
Kamu pampam kambing kambing sideways too?
A very inscrutable observation, now I will have to kill you.

Ginsberg did indeed play footsy with me..no wait that was my Math teacher at high school ....not that there is anything wrong with that.
The only Jacques I knew was a destitute froggy who had 2 shirts,  a pair of shoes, one pair of pants with a penchant for raw horse meat and going catatonic in restaurants in Bangkok after a fix, which was always followed by the ritual sacrifice of his glass "works".

Those Lao slavers did indeed teach me to speak, they were cunning linguists....Whilst I did run my glosses over Mr. JJ's works not far from Taipei with a girl called "cowboy" heigh yo silver! *eyes grow misty …..hums Andrews Sisters rendition of "Don't Fence Me In"*  
The Lao minister for immigration had me frog marched out of Vientiane for illegally joining a Buddhist Nunnery…oh the state of Nirvana I almost achieved there ...over and over…erm. I was only found out when the fat cook got jealous and sent a message to her Uncle who ran a transport business during the Vietnam War with 200 mules shipping "bone powder" out of the Golden Triangle to waiting Air America C-47s landing on the Plain of Jars… you don't argue with someone who helped cause the addiction to "smack" of over 50,000 dog soldiers…

After that I attempted to join the Diplomatic Service but was fired before I even started for asking the Head of Intelligence “Is that a banana you’re eating or is that your nose?”

I knew then that the only way I was ever going to lead a normal life was to give up my wicked ways and marry a librarian. Well it turned out her favourite author was the Marquis de Sade ….ouch.

I am now semi retired and investigating the possibility of life as a nude model for Ladies art classes.

Let this be your lesson, Ras. Don't try to out-weird k.e..

What? It's all true I tell you!

...oh except the bit about joining the Diplomatic Service.

..but they wouldn't have me anyway ....because I would pointed at the big noses and laffed.

...oh ok.... I've never been to Vientiane the capital of Laos either, the whole country was closed in 1976 when I was last near there, due to "Regime Change" which was then quite a sport in Thailand. Once I had to pay a taxi driver big money to get to a safer part of Bangkok because the only traffic on the street was Army Tanks.

But Jacques WAS real and HE did live in Vientiane before then plus his favourite dish was Steak Tartare. My guess is he is stone cold dead now from his other activities.
....uh ok... he was weird.

Slavers are very real in most parts of Asia if not the world, it's just not discussed in polite circles, some of them are quite charming but I never do "nose jokes" on them.
..Nothing weird about trying to stay alive.

The nunnery, a girl called "cowboy", marrying a Marquis de Sade reading librarian.  ?
.......Isn't that normal?
Anyway, she didn't tell me until the first whack.

Air America? It did exist and was the CIA's private covert arms for drugs outfit in that area in the 60's and early 70's. I once met a pilot who claimed to have flown for them and also claimed he flew a single engined Cessena which he landed outside the French Embassy in Phnom Penh, just as it was falling to Pol Pot, to rescue some important American spy.
...Definitely weird but who said the world was perfect?

...oh wait the Gov. of USA is trying to make it perfect, (sure to work ....guaranteed...in the bag) ...NOW that IS weird.

Date: 2008/04/28 06:25:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ April 28 2008,12:49)
You just can't make this stuff up:    
Quote
The Return of BA77: I even ended up going down the street that evening, stopping complete strangers on the street, trying to tell them I had just seen a miracle, on the T.V. show ALF, with ants and singing and dancing.
Welcome back, bornagain77, your unique wisdom was really missed.

J.F. Christ that BA77 guy should become a faith healer, he's touched.

OK a quiz for the SF buffs. Who said "God is a 12 yr old boy with an ant farm?"

I'll spare BA77 with my cure for depression, it would make him depressed, sufice to say it involves serious levels of naughtyness.....hrrm and Thank Goddess's for that!

Date: 2008/04/28 07:38:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Amadan @ April 28 2008,14:55)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 27 2008,21:06)
   
Quote (J-Dog @ April 28 2008,03:59)
     
Quote (Maya @ April 27 2008,19:11)
     
Quote (k.e.. @ April 27 2008,11:01)
       
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 27 2008,18:44)
It's gone quiet here, all of a sudden.  Was it something I said?

Louis farted

k.e. is English?

I think he is from New Zealand.

Correct. I am a South Sea Pom. with dual nationality the other being shaoránaigh na hÉireann, to which I have never been.
An expatriot for 34 years and permanent resident of Oz.

Edit: saoránach na hEireann, unless you suffer from acute schizophrenia.

No wonder the First National Language is in danger of extinction.

(Nothing to do with the crappy way it's taught in school or the fact that its only practical use is to discuss the physical attributes of foreign ladies in their presence, of course)

Fortunately I can use Kiwi if I have to where I've been lately but the subjects of those observations don't bother with that sort of comedy of manners aka cricket commentry (line & lenght etc.), it's surprising if only for a moment to have all your best illusions completely skewered.

I would have to check with Momsy for a comment on the hack and paste job I did on "Citizen of Eire" although I would guess that even in the 1920's Gaeilge was a contrived revival, just a guess. Her grandparents did speak it apparantly.

Date: 2008/04/28 08:29:11, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 28 2008,15:59)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 27 2008,23:39)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ April 27 2008,20:14)
   
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 28 2008,04:46)
actually he is from Manchuria.  ran away and joined the sex trade and they took him in and taught him to speak.  at some point he fell on a punji stick in Laos and was forced to read the entirety of james joyce, then ran off to be human foot stool for allan ginsberg and was known as 'stool foot'.  jacques monod gave him an empty box for christmas and then he came here.

Ah so! grasscricket.
Kamu pampam kambing kambing sideways too?
A very inscrutable observation, now I will have to kill you.

Ginsberg did indeed play footsy with me..no wait that was my Math teacher at high school ....not that there is anything wrong with that.
The only Jacques I knew was a destitute froggy who had 2 shirts,  a pair of shoes, one pair of pants with a penchant for raw horse meat and going catatonic in restaurants in Bangkok after a fix, which was always followed by the ritual sacrifice of his glass "works".

Those Lao slavers did indeed teach me to speak, they were cunning linguists....Whilst I did run my glosses over Mr. JJ's works not far from Taipei with a girl called "cowboy" heigh yo silver! *eyes grow misty …..hums Andrews Sisters rendition of "Don't Fence Me In"*  
The Lao minister for immigration had me frog marched out of Vientiane for illegally joining a Buddhist Nunnery…oh the state of Nirvana I almost achieved there ...over and over…erm. I was only found out when the fat cook got jealous and sent a message to her Uncle who ran a transport business during the Vietnam War with 200 mules shipping "bone powder" out of the Golden Triangle to waiting Air America C-47s landing on the Plain of Jars… you don't argue with someone who helped cause the addiction to "smack" of over 50,000 dog soldiers…

After that I attempted to join the Diplomatic Service but was fired before I even started for asking the Head of Intelligence “Is that a banana you’re eating or is that your nose?”

I knew then that the only way I was ever going to lead a normal life was to give up my wicked ways and marry a librarian. Well it turned out her favourite author was the Marquis de Sade ….ouch.

I am now semi retired and investigating the possibility of life as a nude model for Ladies art classes.

Let this be your lesson, Ras. Don't try to out-weird k.e..

duly noted.  

k.e.. if you get a q-tip dipped in gin, you might be able to scrub enough of it out of the tip of the head so that your fevers go down.  don't know that you can do much about that pencil thin mustache tattoo though.

Forget the q-tip, I used a rake soaked in creosote.

Speaking of which, Hogarth was an inspiration.

I have a tattoo? Bugger, I'm always the last one to find out.

Date: 2008/04/28 09:15:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 28 2008,16:49)
On the latest o'dreary thread at UD, Dr. Dr. D comments on the panning of his favorite movie by Hugh Ross at the organization known as Reason to Believe (RTB).  
Quote
As it is, RTB carries none of my books, including MERE CREATION, which, as you note, has an essay by Hugh. By contrast, I’ve found the Young Earth community much more open and inviting.

Per usual, it's all about the money and the book sales in Dr. Dr. D's tiny universe.

Translation:

In contrast to honest people, I find suckers are easier to get money from.

Date: 2008/04/28 09:25:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ April 28 2008,17:15)
i bet it takes her longer to write that tardfarm linkfest than it does to excrete the posteseses themselves.  shes dumb shes drunk shes gay!!!!

And she's YOURS!

The bride price in PNG (where I'm going for the next 3 weeks.....so you guys can get back to normal) for a secondhand witch is about 2 pigs and a carton of beer, but look at what you get.
She carries all the firewood, does all the gardening, raises the pigs, fetches all the water and can climb a beetelnut palm all before your banana for breakfast.

It's a man's paradise.

Date: 2008/04/28 09:40:34, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 28 2008,17:24)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 28 2008,07:20)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ April 28 2008,09:15)
   
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 28 2008,16:49)
On the latest o'dreary thread at UD, Dr. Dr. D comments on the panning of his favorite movie by Hugh Ross at the organization known as Reason to Believe (RTB).      
Quote
As it is, RTB carries none of my books, including MERE CREATION, which, as you note, has an essay by Hugh. By contrast, I’ve found the Young Earth community much more open and inviting.

Per usual, it's all about the money and the book sales in Dr. Dr. D's tiny universe.

Translation:

In contrast to honest people, I find suckers are easier to get money from.

Minor quibble. I think you can be honest and also a sucker*.




*Tarden's mom creates a mighty-fine negative pressure differential, for example.

Whereas I wouldn't call your mom 'honest'.

Now now  RTH's Mom is very nice.

Date: 2008/04/28 10:38:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 28 2008,17:50)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 28 2008,09:31)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 28 2008,05:37)
quick question:  how exactly do we know reality the way it really is?  i might exchange my dreamtime for your geological epochs if you can make it seem reasonable.  otherwise it seems like all he said she said wankery to me.  in my reality i can fly.

In mine I get to have ponies. :angry:

"The Horse-botherers", Staring Carlson and Tardon.

Yes but Ardon only watches and puts money on them.

Date: 2008/04/28 11:11:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (J-Dog @ April 28 2008,18:47)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 28 2008,10:39)
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 28 2008,08:35)
She may be ugly, but she has alot of heart.  She is a tidy jumper given her conformation tends her to be heavy on the forehand.  And just plain heavy.

I SEE YOUVE MET RITCHARDS MOM TWO!!! :O

And we have a New Winner of the "Meanest, Yet Funniest Post by Someone Not Named Louis" !!!1111!!!

Oh fuck! Now we have to read his answer to THAT...

As for RTH's mother she's so fat that when she walks backwards a Japanese voice calls out "Danger, please stand aside"

Date: 2008/04/28 11:18:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (BWE @ April 28 2008,19:13)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ April 28 2008,11:11)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ April 28 2008,18:47)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 28 2008,10:39)
   
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 28 2008,08:35)
She may be ugly, but she has alot of heart.  She is a tidy jumper given her conformation tends her to be heavy on the forehand.  And just plain heavy.

I SEE YOUVE MET RITCHARDS MOM TWO!!! :O

And we have a New Winner of the "Meanest, Yet Funniest Post by Someone Not Named Louis" !!!1111!!!

Oh fuck! Now we have to read his answer to THAT...

As for RTH's mother she's so fat that when she walks backwards a Japanese voice calls out "Danger, please stand aside"

Don't you mean "Preeze step aside."?

Of course and if you imagine she's wearing an English school girl's uniform ----FR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!! The female Japanese voice not RTH's Mom.

Date: 2008/04/28 20:40:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Annyday @ April 29 2008,03:38)
 
Quote (didymos @ April 28 2008,19:13)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 28 2008,15:31)
- Richard Dawkins declined to debate D'Souza.

Of course, it should be noted that Dawkins isn't afraid of opposing arguments either, but just seems to dislike the debate format, especially when it's with a creationist.

He wrote a longwinded argument a while ago about how debating creationists just gives them fuel. Might be a part of it.

Absolutely.

This is the Billy Graham /Rev. Jim Jones method of science. Fuck with peoples minds until they can't reason anymore. It's not hard to do. History is full of mass brainwashing. Actually I might take it up myself, there's money in it.

As Lenny used to put it

"It's like debating the theory of relativity with your Parrot"

They love the debate format because they can spam the channel in fixed time. Dish up turds as chocolates. This is their choice of media outlet for their product.

For them it is not about facts and objectivity it's all pure Bull Shit filling teh ears of the truly passive.

The Human animal is a strange beast. When the head of the herd speaks quite often people lose their minds.

Dawkins is right the only benefit from him debating the CSuckers is that they get instant credibilty and he just get's shit on his hands.


Complete waste of time.

Hitch I think has made...shall we say a "commercial decision" that's about as delicate as you can be, I think.

Date: 2008/05/27 08:19:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 27 2008,08:57)
I left a post on his blog showing him this thread a while ago...

If his output is Tardlicious in volume, he could get his own thread..

Louis has a Blog?

Date: 2008/05/27 20:13:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ May 27 2008,20:43)
Quote (k.e.. @ May 27 2008,14:19)
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 27 2008,08:57)
I left a post on his blog showing him this thread a while ago...

If his output is Tardlicious in volume, he could get his own thread..

Louis has a Blog?

No but your momma does.

Louis

Here's a letter I copied and sent to Louis' Mother.

Dear Louis' Mom

Date: 2008/05/27 20:55:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 27 2008,23:37)
Louis, note how you're a separate category from "cognitively slow"...

Careful there RTH you know he's *NOT* paranoid *NO REALLY REALLY*

Date: 2008/05/28 08:14:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 28 2008,14:52)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 28 2008,01:50)
   
Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 27 2008,19:45)
       
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

63
William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: I’m not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, it’s not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: “the scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing one’s damndest with one’s mind, no holds barred.” In any case, you’re out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?


The usual, not kissing Bill's ass enthusiastically enough:

     
Quote
Cue
05/22/2008
7:33 pm
Bornagain, to say that it is artificial may be correct, but to say that it is unnecessary is not. The scientific method is a specific process. It is not the only process. It is, however, the process represented in the schools when natural science is taught.

Studies that don’t fit the scientific method, such as they aren’t conducive to experiments or aren’t readily communicable, can still be studied, but not as a natural science.

In 61 above, when you find imposed materialism to be the biggest hinderance to science, I suggest that simply doesn’t make sense. Science (natural science), by definition, has that imposition. If you mean that imposed materialism is the biggest hindereance to knowledge - appreciating that science is but one tool to gain knowledge - then the argument would make more sense.

What is especially entertaining about WAD's post is that Percy Bridgman was the originator of operationism (although he never liked that term), and sought to replace abstract theoretical concepts within physics with the analysis of the operations by which those concepts are measured. These notions were influential among logical positivists. The logical positivist Feigl spent a sabbatical with Bridgman in 1930, after which he joined the faculty at Harvard and brought Bridgman’s views to the attention of E.G. Boring and his students S. S. Stevens and B. F. Skinner. As transplanted to behaviorism, operationism construed subjective experiences and cognitive activity (and agency generally) as beyond the reach of a truly scientific psychology.  

In short, Bridgman, whom WAD quotes in support of his warped construal of the natural world in terms of a guiding (but shy) intelligence, was actually the author of ideas that resulted in the ejection of intelligence and agency from human psychology for 50 years.

You'd think the guy would read up a little before he begins to go on about "gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science."

Would you like me to give a P-A-R-:0)-D-Y of Lady Boy Bill's facetiousness to that rather phosphorous materialist reduction of said Girlyman's House of Cards sooty stain on ID lab bench.

k.e.. searches through kids dress up box for wizard hat ...with frigging stars and pink unicorns with long blue bushy tails OK?... and ridiculous oversized sweater, badly knitted by discarded girlfriend.

wMAD: RB .....here at UD science pseudoscience is what I say it is and if I quotemine some early postmodernist social scientist, with a twist, then the twits on this board will feel vindicated that their knob polishing hasn't been in vain. Remember history is written by the victors and my case I am truly a über  victoriass lacy angel winner. So there :P. and besides they haven't been on Colbert Nation or to Heffies place.

Date: 2008/05/28 08:22:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ May 28 2008,10:40)
Why does the subtitle of this thread make me think that there may be a good market for spam emails that run roughly:

"Hot ID Action! Be a REAL man, enlarge your contribution to the notroversy with Via-id-gra!"

Louis

Can I suggest you be more even handed in your posts?

Date: 2008/05/28 09:03:16, Link
Author: k.e..
WELL HAR FAWKING HAR GIRLYMAN RTH.
YOU FORGOT THE CARBON NEUTRAL CHAINSAWS IN MY DUMB AS FENCEPOST PROOF, SURVIVALIST PEAK OIL, TEXAS DOOM, FALLOUT SPIDER HOLE WITH ROOM FOR A WHOLE TURNIP TRUCK DON'T CONTRIBUTE AS MUCH ATMOSPHERIC COOLING SOOT AS DOES CHINA AND INDIA COMBINED. WHICH MEANS WE ARE HEADED FOR ANOTHER ICEAGE THANKS TO HISSELF. SO YOU LOSE AGAIN HOMO. THANKYOU FOR PLAYING WITH MY BONE . I KILL HISSELF SOMETIMES HAHAHA dt.

Date: 2008/05/28 09:19:58, Link
Author: k.e..
Is it a bird or a moth?


From my recent rip to PNG









Date: 2008/05/28 23:14:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (didymos @ May 29 2008,06:35)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 28 2008,20:30)
Please, take a moment to read Russ' lifelong, tear-jerking battle with "TEH GAY":

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-289692

This thread, this TARD, MINE, all MINE!

I imagine Ted Haggard told himself much the same thing:
   
Quote

I CHOSE to be straight every time I resisted homosexual impulses in favor of a traditional Christian sexual orientation. As a direct result, I now have a wife and two kids. If I had gone with my feelings, I would likely not have produced any offspring at all. How can you say that religious training has no effect at all on sexual orientation?


Next thing you know, it's crystal meth and male prostitutes and public displays of shame.  Much better to just go with the being gay thing.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Resisted his urges!!!!!!! ........and had kids??????

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I wonder how that went.....
...under Brokeback Mountain..

Bai Honey that was nice..... but...but...... we can't go on like this   *sniff sniffle .....boo hoo hoo*   now I have to go home and make a baby for Jesus ....kiss kiss ...ooooh you're sooo big.....see you in my dreams you big hunk of man ....let me smell your Y fronts one last time...please ....not the finger, we're saying goodbye here you thoughtless hornbag...

Date: 2008/05/29 08:19:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ May 29 2008,13:58)
Quote (BWE @ May 29 2008,11:18)
Quote (Annyday @ May 28 2008,22:46)
 
Quote (BWE @ May 28 2008,18:55)
Now that the Tard is starting to face its shortsightedness, I decided to honor it with my official IQ score at one of those absolutely accurate free iq sites. That's my new avatar.

I took one of those once, and it insulted me for not knowing the capitol of Nigeria.

Are you sure that wasn't acid on blotter paper?

I took one of those once and it told me my IQ was really massive.

Never believe anything a piece of paper soaked in a solution of lysergic acid tells you.

Louis

Yes of course ...that's a phallacy.....a massive one. It must weigh you down. But don't worry *I* believe it.

Date: 2008/05/29 08:38:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Happy last day in the womb, Br'er Renard.

Date: 2008/05/29 20:14:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 30 2008,03:44)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 29 2008,20:40)
Of course, they've ever been reluctant to stand in public square with pants around their ankles.

Neither have I, but the cops around here have no sense of humor.

That's only because they want you all to themselves in the dungeon....

Date: 2008/05/29 20:59:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 30 2008,03:24)
     
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 29 2008,15:23)
         
Quote
All IMHO of course. Off the top of my head, or out of my ass, and straying dangerously close to woo...


Not to muddy the waters, but Skinner considered biological evolution and learning to be functionally equivalent. He saw no difference between an arrangement of neurons and connections brought about by Darwinian processes and one brought about by feedback during the life of an organism. One process simply operates faster.

He also had an equivalent concept of drift. He wrote of superstition and adventitious learning -- things learned as a result of "random" feedback.

Skinner explicitly acknowledged the analogy between natural selection and operant learning. However, he had no truck whatsoever with speculation regarding mechanisms (e.g. neural nets selected at either level). His was a strictly functional model that described relationships between operants and subsequent reinforcing environmental events, and he refused to speculate about internal mechanisms. Indeed, he claimed to reject all theory building. His position was that 1) those internal mechanisms are biological, not mental, and 2) we are far from having scientifically useful knowledge of the biological/brain underpinnings of behavior - and that a behavioral science of psychology did not need to wait for explanation at that level in any event.  

Late in his life he wrote to neurobiologist Jaak Panksepp:

"A behavioral account has two unavoidable gaps - between stimulus and response, and between reinforcement and a resulting change in behavior. Those gaps can be filled only with the instruments and techniques of neurology. A science of behavior need not wait until neurology has done so. A complete account is no doubt highly desirable but the neurology is not what the behavior really is; the two sciences deal with separate subject matters. A third discipline may very well wish to deal with how the two can be brought together, but that is not my field."

(Affective Neuroscience, Jaak Panksepp, 1998, Oxford University Press, page 12).

Oh god no! no! no! no! .....the evil atheist conspiracy sez knowledge/thought/intelligence/consciousness/creativity and their products are just a rewards based social construction promulgated by propaganda memes aka a Super Ego Genetic Algorithm

.... Whelp! Where's my Holly Bibble and a stiff scotch?

Yo.... and in the beginning there was the Word and the word was SCRABBLE   (presumably assembled by a tornado in a junkyard of worn out alphabets)

...ahhhh that's better
...it's very soothing after the 3rd one.

I'm going with Dave Tard's Wager on this one.

If Global Warming is true then god must exist because humans wouldn't be stupid enough to fuck up the planet for personal greed or capitalist materialism/consumerism

Billions of tons more atmospheric carbon and shiny things with buttons and lights is good .....right? RIGHT?

God said "go forth and melt all the glaciers and fuck the consequences" its right there in the Earth's Holy Owners Manual .....Genesis.

LISTEN TO ME YOU LADYBOYS, ID IS THE NEW SECULAR RELIGION AND FREUD SAID WAGERING IS THE SAME AS MASTURBATION. SO GO FUCK YOURSELVES. HAHAHAHAHA I SLAYME SOMETIMES.dt.

Date: 2008/05/29 21:56:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ May 30 2008,05:23)
 
Quote
6

DaveScot

05/28/2008

11:07 am

Tard Alert!

M Caldwell

Sadly, progress in SPS has been glacial over the decades I've known about it. The biggest problem is the cost of getting material into orbit and little has been done in developing a low-cost method of getting material into orbit.


Taht is because gravity is the strongest force in the universe, DT!  :p

AND ME IS TEH MOSTEST SMART HOMOPHOBE AT UD WITH AN IQ THAT MAKES MARRIED FEMALE CARBON BASED  FENCEPOSTS QUIVER WITH RAPTUROUS BREEDING EXPECTATION.

I'VE SAID IT BEFORE WHEN ID SCIENTISTS DESIGN INTELLIGENT NANO SELF LEVITATING BIOBOTS THAT CAN ZERO COST ORBIT GOD'S GREENLAND INTO A GEOSYNCHRONOUS   COTTON FIELD SUITABLE FOR  HERMETICALLY SEALED SHARECROPPING INUITS TEHN MY WORK WILL BE DONE.

IT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION, CHEAP SOX FOR MY KIDS AND WHEN THE AIR RUNS OUT IN THE INUIT'S SPACESUITS WE RECYCLE THEM AS BIODIESEL.

I'M OFF TO MY LAB TO GET STARTED RIGHT NOW WATCH OUT FOR MY PATENTS. dt

Date: 2008/05/29 22:26:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeffox @ May 30 2008,05:34)
Thank you all very much!  (sniff)  I'm so (sniff, mutter) choked up right now, I (sniffle, blows nose) didn't even know anybody, you know, cared or anything like that.  Forty-seven, btw, and I weigh the same as I weighed when I was 18.  Well, I DID, until about 9 months ago when I quit smoking cigarettes.  Then I instantly gained, er, um, er, ah, a couplea pounds.  Never mind. . . .

:)

I hope that my posts are constructive here - I know that I'm participating with people who are way out of my league, expertise/education-wise.  What is being done here is important, I've studied history enough to know what happens to people who turn away from or deny science/scientific discourse.  The last 8 years have really scared me.  It seems that many of you share those convictions.  

THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME BE A PART OF THIS FORUM!  YOU ALL ROCK!!

(puts on The Beatles' White Album for an obvious song)

YEAH WELL, I DON'T CARE THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WE CARED.

HERE AT UD WE DON'T BELIEVE IN BIRTH SINCE IT'S A LOGICAL PROOF THAT JESUS' MOTHER WAS NOT A VIRGIN AND GOD DIDN'T BONE HER. (ALTHOUGH SINCE MICHELANGELO'S   PAINTING PROVES HE HAD A FINGER HE PROBABLY GOT HER WET...ANYWAY THAT'S ANOTHER STORY)

ANYWAY NO HARD FEELINGS ABOUT RUSTLING THE CHICKENS HERE AT UNCLE BILLY'S CHICKEN FARM. YOU REALLY HAD ME GOING THERE FOR A WHILE I HAD TO SIT ANOTHER IQ TEST JUST TO CHECK HOW SMART I WAS BEFORE I BANINATED YOU ....AGAIN.

HAPPY DE NOVO DAY. dt

Date: 2008/05/29 22:40:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 30 2008,04:37)
Now that looks like it might be an interesting thread, were I not busy trying to re-teach myself trig for the upcoming college placement exams...

RU has always been excellent value IMHO. Leaves me for dead at eating monsters for breakfast.

Date: 2008/05/30 01:06:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2008,08:18)
On that Freeman Dyson thread Davetard gets into his support from solar power from space and ethanol from bacteria. Those are technologically interesting ideas, but there's no reason for Davetard to support them. Since he doesn't believe in global warming he should support the much cheaper option of just burning coal. Also, launch costs currently prohibit the former and various problems the latter.

Me, I like solar thermal energy. I was shocked recently to read that Solar thermal energy plants which met all our existing demand could be built with existing technology for less than the cost of the iraq war.

Here is what we need...collect the methane from the UD dudes.

UD BUTTHEAD

Date: 2008/05/30 08:54:38, Link
Author: k.e..
EXITING NEWS HOMOS!

WHILE I WAS TRYING TO DESIGN A CARBON NEUTRAL BIOCHAINSAW  .....THAT’S WHERE I CROSSED A SAWFISH WITH AN ARMADILLO...WELL ACTUALLY I WAS CHEATING A BIT I TOOK MY STUFFED ARMADILLO WHICH WAS GETTING A BIT MOTH EATEN AND RESTUFFED IT WITH MY STIHL  090 AND REPLACED THE BAR WITH THE BIGGEST SAWFISH NOSE IN MY RARE COLLECTION OF SAWFISH NOSES ....BUT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW.

BACK TO THE SCIENCE...

MY FIRST SUCCESS WITH DESIGNING CARBON GULPING NANO TECH  BACTERIA IS WORLD BEATING.

I TOOK SOME MOULD FROM MY FRIDGE AND PUT IT IN A MODIFIED PETRI DISH.

AND GUESS WHAT I FED THEM?

GRAVITY!!!

THAT'S RIGHT HOMOS THE HEAVY ONES FELL TO THE BOTTOM AND THE REALLY LIGHT ONES FLOATED TO THE TOP AND IT WAS ALL RANDOM CHANCE SELECTION!!

ONCE THEY OVERCOME SURFACE TENSION AND FLY I'LL BE RICH!!!!

I CALLED MICHEAL DELL TO SEE IF HE WANTED TO INVEST BUT ALL I GOT WAS A PALM READER IN GALVESTON....HE MUST HAVE CHANGED HIS NUMBER.

WISH ME LUCK WITH THE PATENT. dt

Date: 2008/05/31 07:17:25, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (keiths @ May 31 2008,06:22)
Holy crap.  How did we miss this?

 
Quote
Saturday, May 24, 2008

The Day Time Went Backwards

Kitty broke the teapot,
She knocked it off the sill;
Stacey found the pieces just
As time stood still.

Time rolled backwards;
The teapot gathered up
And fit itself together
And poured itself a cup.

Weeks run backwards
But the strangest thing we saw
Is, Kitty’s just a kitten now,
A-wailing for her ma.

© Denyse O'Leary 2000

oh Denise ........if you happen to be reading this...I think you are fat and stupid but if you still want to have me, PM me and i"ii make some kitty time for you. You won't be disappointed, I promise.

Date: 2008/05/31 15:49:13, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 31 2008,21:02)
Dawkins is right not to engage anti-science cranks. There is a forum for promoting scientific research - peer reviewed journals.

Dave Tard just wants a new paradigm for science .....the 1/2 hour stage debate, preferably a mass media one where the great unwashed decides the winner with a truthiness meter.

He's already doing it, except it's a bit one sided now that he has actually gagged the opposing team with his ban bone. That improves his outcomes no end since his only peers left are the UD fruit loops.

I call his new paradigm....peer circular massdebating onstage with fruit loops and no pushback.

Date: 2008/06/01 22:36:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 01 2008,23:53)
DaveScot to WAD:
 
Quote
DaveScot
06/01/2008
3:26 pm

Bill

I hope it’ll be interesting if nothing else. If you find these kinds of things interesting may I recommend you spend a day or two at Lily Dale, NY if it’s ever convenient. I grew up about 50 miles away and it was a popular destination for a day trip once a year or so. Not quite as often as visits to Amish country though - the Amish make some incredible breads, cheeses, and maple syrup products plus they’re about 15 miles closer. Anyhow, there’s some of everything in the way of paranormal and spiritualism in Lily Dale.

The price of gas what it is, I'm a bit surprised Dave didn't suggest remote viewing.

I'm surprised he had to post that, why didn't he just use a telepathic parrot?

LISTEN TO ME YOU LADYBOYS .....MY PARROT IS ON THE FRITZ TODAY ....mmOK?

I HAD TO RESORT TO ACTUAL FETS TO GET THAT VALAUBLE BONE THROUGH TO HIS_ARSEHOLINESS.

AND BILL'S ANGELS AREN'T TOO RELIABLE EITHER YOU KNOW, THE LAST LOT WERE HAVING A SESSION ON ONE OF HIS SWEATERS AND WERE SO INTO EACH OTHER THEY IGNORED THE TELE-PARROT ZERO ENERY WAVES, FILTHY THINGS.

ID HAS TO USE ALL AVAILABLE METHODS INCLUDING REALITY  ...err OUR TARDBLOG ...SOMETIMES. dt

Date: 2008/06/02 10:32:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ June 02 2008,09:39)
Quote (Annyday @ June 02 2008,01:58)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 01 2008,22:36)
[blah blah blah blah...] dt

stop that. whenever I see "dt" I look for the dx and the rest of the equation.

I have the same problem.

Dave Tard's output has always been derivative.

He provides the lowest common denominator in Uncle Billy's House for the Unintergrated.

Date: 2008/06/02 11:52:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 02 2008,19:19)
the rate at which my laughter at this joke increases is decreasing.

THAT HOMO,  IS BECAUSE YOU ....*ARE NOT FUNNY*.

NOW ON A SCALE OF ONE TO ELEVEN ON UNCLE BILLY'S SLIDING GOAL POSTS APOSTLE METER DIVIDED BY SLIMY SALS AGE OF THE LAST DINO WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO THE ARK MULTIPLIED BY DENEZES MISS-USED WORD MANGLES IN LOGO-LOGS THEN ADD DAVE TARDS IQ EXPRESSED IN GLOBAL COOLING BLACK SPOTS MINUS A HEDDLE COSMIC CONSTANT OR TWO WE WOULD HAVE LAUGHED OFF THE THE ASSES BEHIND THE FACES ON MOUNT RUSHMORE BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUSLY DESIGNED....:P Dt.

Date: 2008/06/02 12:07:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
Quote

To pro-life, pro-family proponents, in an age where a man can be arrested for proclaiming sodomy to be a sin, or who can be fired from a teaching position for daring to discuss God, these tactics will sound eerily familiar.  



hmm.  Expelled has matured into the marketplace of memes?





.....Life is a bitch, for dull roots

Teh Wasteland


APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding  
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing  
Memory and desire, stirring  
Dull roots with spring rain... etc

Date: 2008/06/02 20:14:25, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ June 03 2008,00:25)
Quote (sparc @ June 02 2008,11:32)
Quote
Then there's most of the field of psychology. The placebo and Clever Hans effects are especially relevant.
I guess what people experience with phone calls is hindsight bias.

If you have hindsight bias with Clever Hans, you're looking at the wrong end of the horse.  :)

I HAD A FRIEND CALLED HANS ONCE.
HE WAS A GERMAN SHEPARD.
MY MA DIDN'T LIKE HIM CUZ HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SHEEP.
AND HANS DIDN'T LIKE HER EITHER.
SO I BUMPED HER OFF AND SAID TO HIM "LOOK HANS NO MA". dT

Date: 2008/06/02 20:45:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 02 2008,20:22)


I heard you disappeared with a chisel and a 5 gallon tub of lube when your tour bus stopped there.  also something about crazy horse's bung.


haha this is you


You're telling the story but just for the record there are a couple of errors in that fanciful tale legend.

1. I never take tour busses .....mostly because I always forget to pick up the passengers ....so they won't let me drive them anymore AND BESIDES you only meet other tourists which no matter how fuckable they are constantly remind you of home and why you left in the first place. Plus they can't be trusted with my phone number and they know how to use google.

2. I've never called Mr. Midnight a chisel, even would lube be required.

3. Crazy Horses is booked out months in advance so if you do plan to visit Paris, get tickets in advance. The bung (with a tail) is a nice idea though.

Date: 2008/06/03 07:50:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 03 2008,15:28)
Quote
Yet somehow the Polynesians managed to populate the Pacific Islands—long before the Age of (European) Discovery.


Well, Duh.  The Gud Lard gave them a map after they climbed out of the ark.  Note that because of their shall we say colored persuasion that the polynesians are undoubtedly under the Curse of Ham.  This would explain why they do nothing but hang 10 on longboards, roast pigs and wear flower necklaces all day long, instead of more civilized exercises involving tall buildings, short hair, tax brackets and machine guns or bulldozers.

who needs a map when you have a great bearded thunderer for an interactive gazeteer?  the rise of publicly available popular maps is proof that our society is quickly degrading, avoiding the free and consummate aid of our risen haploid son of man in favor of things you can actually touch and see.  pshaw

You forgot one important thing about Polynesians.

When Captain Cook and later English & French (remember them) explorers visited Tahiti the Captains of said ships ran into serious problems with the male crew members stealing so many iron nails to exchange for favors from the very willing female inhabitants of those islands that it became a hanging offense. Fletcher Christian himself torn between the moral imperative of the traditional ferrous Xtian restrainer and matters of the corporeal decided to steal the whole frigging boat and sail into the sunset with a whole boatload of Polys.

If anyone is planning a visit to Polynesia …make it quick the place is going under due to Global Cooling …RIGHT dt?

And don't forget Micronesia either ...it's smaller.

*edit to make micronesia bigger*

Date: 2008/06/03 07:58:59, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
haploid son of man



So you are saying Pontius Pilot  should have said

Ecce Half Homo?

or Pres. Bush our modern Imperial equivalent

"Behold, that half cocksucker Saddam Hussein  
"

Date: 2008/06/03 09:11:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ June 03 2008,15:06)
 
Quote
kairosfocus: By way of illustration, consider yourself on a raft in a vast pacific, moving at random.

In how many dimensions? Just two? How quaint.


From The Hunting of the Snark by Lewis Carroll

THE BELLMAN'S SPEECH.


The Bellman himself they all praised to the skies--
 Such a carriage, such ease and such grace!
Such solemnity, too! One could see he was wise,
 The moment one looked in his face!

Kariofocus had bought a large map representing the sea,
 Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
 A map they could all understand.


"What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
 Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply
  "They are merely conventional signs!

"Other maps are such shapes, with their islands and capes!
 But we've got our brave Captain to thank
(So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best--
 A perfect and absolute blank!"

This was charming, no doubt; but they shortly found out
 That the Captain they trusted so well
Had only one notion for crossing the ocean,
 And that was to tingle his bell.

He was thoughtful and grave--but the orders he gave
 Were enough to bewilder a crew.
When he cried "Steer to starboard, but keep her head larboard!"
 What on earth was the helmsman to do?

Then the bowsprit got mixed with the rudder sometimes:
 A thing, as the Bellman remarked,
That frequently happens in tropical climes,
 When a vessel is, so to speak, "snarked."

But the principal failing occurred in the sailing,
  And the Bellman, perplexed and distressed,
Said he had hoped, at least, when the wind blew due East,
 That the ship would not travel due West!

But the danger was past--they had landed at last,
 With their boxes, portmanteaus, and bags:
Yet at first sight the crew were not pleased with the view,
 Which consisted to chasms and crags.

The Bellman perceived that their spirits were low,
 And repeated in musical tone
Some jokes he had kept for a season of woe--
 But the crew would do nothing but groan.

He served out some grog with a liberal hand,
 And bade them sit down on the beach:
And they could not but own that their Captain looked grand,
 As he stood and delivered his speech.

"Friends, Romans, and countrymen, lend me your ears!"
 (They were all of them fond of quotations:
So they drank to his health, and they gave him three cheers,
 While he served out additional rations).

"We have sailed many months, we have sailed many weeks,
  (Four weeks to the month you may mark),
But never as yet ('tis your Captain who speaks)
 Have we caught the least glimpse of a Snark!

"We have sailed many weeks, we have sailed many days,
 (Seven days to the week I allow),
But a Snark, on the which we might lovingly gaze,
 We have never beheld till now!

"Come, listen, my men, while I tell you again
 The five unmistakable marks
By which you may know, wheresoever you go,
 The warranted genuine Snarks.

"Let us take them in order. The first is the taste,
 Which is meagre and hollow, but crisp:
Like a coat that is rather too tight in the waist,
 With a flavour of Will-o-the-wisp.

"Its habit of getting up late you'll agree
 That it carries too far, when I say
That it frequently breakfasts at five-o'clock tea,
 And dines on the following day.

"The third is its slowness in taking a jest.
 Should you happen to venture on one,
It will sigh like a thing that is deeply distressed:
 And it always looks grave at a pun.

"The fourth is its fondness for bathing-machines,
 Which is constantly carries about,
And believes that they add to the beauty of scenes--
 A sentiment open to doubt.

"The fifth is ambition. It next will be right
 To describe each particular batch:
Distinguishing those that have feathers, and bite,
 From those that have whiskers, and scratch.

"For, although common Snarks do no manner of harm,
 Yet, I feel it my duty to say,
Some are Boojums--" The Bellman broke off in alarm,
 For the Baker had fainted away.

Date: 2008/06/03 09:41:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 03 2008,17:33)
Quote
A simple proof. Assuming finite memory (a reasonable assumption for a Pseudo-Random Number Generator), then there are a finite number of possible states of the system. At some point, it must repeat itself.


Except that random number generators don't simply spit out lists from memory. The best of them use radioactive decay events to generate binary streams.

But algorithms will do. The digits of Pi are indistinguishable from a random stream, and it is possible to jump to any arbitrary position in the binary expression of pi and begin spewing out a stream of binary digits.

Unless you use a billion monkeys to type out the Holy Bible.

teh repetition gets a little boring after a while.

Date: 2008/06/04 00:42:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Texas Teach @ June 04 2008,07:26)
Quote (sparc @ June 03 2008,22:52)
365 days under review and counting. Peer review indeed is a pain in the ass.

Well, it does take a while to find a peer for Dembski.  How many double doctorates in giant sweater wearing/farty-noise animation can there be?

Peers won't help him, Queers might though he needs a tailor or a visit from the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy team.

Carson would go through his wardrobe like a rat up an aquaduct.

OH HAI BILL ......I CAN CALL YOU BILL RIGHT?
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WORE THAT SWEATER?
IT'S SO ...SO ...AHEM....SEXY ..rolls eyes...WHAT DO YOU KEEP IN THE POCKETS?
ANGELS PHONE NUMBERS...RLY? THEY'RE BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM? snicker
WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU INTO A NICE SACKCLOTH HABIT AND SOME HOT JESUS SANDALS....ANGELS REALLY LOVE A MANS ANKLES YOU KNOW. carson

Date: 2008/06/04 07:32:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 04 2008,06:02)
HAR HAR THIS IS YOU.  AND K.E:S FIRST WIFE


The truth is that that photo came from 'rasmuses family album and it's a photo of his mother who breast fed him until he was 31 years old.

She was also a formidable crochet knitter and always carried a spare needle in her nose.

The initiation scars of course were a mistake her father was practically blind and her mother told her husband his 15th child was a boy since all the others were girls.

The charade had to be kept up and when 'rases poor mother was 10 years old she had to go through the tribal initiation for boys which was to have the tribes totem a George Foreman Grill emblazoned on their chest by cutting the skin with a blunt stone adze and rolling in mud then eating a Baptist missionary.

Now that brutal practice has stopped and the Baptists are grilled the normal way.


Actually my first wife supplied "crushed bone powder" to American B-52 pilots at Don Muang Air Base and whilst she didn't have a penchant for crochet she could do a really neat controlled up and down rippling strong contraction at her will with a certain part of her body.

Sadly we parted on a railway platform when my visa ran out but she was OK. She threw herself into the comforting arms of Japanese millionaire crime bosses, sometimes and preferably several at once.

I never did get to make that movie she wanted and now 33 years later she would 59 years old. Nitaya if you happen to be reading this I still love you PM me.

Date: 2008/06/04 08:44:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 04 2008,16:24)
Ftk quoted Skatje's essay, then said:

"That sure sounds like advocating the experience to me."

Now she says:

I *never* stated that she is "advocating" these encounters."

Unbelieveable.  Simply. Unbelieveable.

Keep in mind Ftk advocates fruitcake for brains.

Her version of reality (Beta 0.11a) states that facts are....wait for it ....NOT FACTS!!

That means that she can walk across streets and ignore the fact that a car could kill her.

I live in hope that one day she will discover for herself that dead babies end up as compost.

Date: 2008/06/04 09:18:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Amadan @ June 04 2008,16:51)
Quote (Annyday @ May 17 2008,10:14)
GASP! God's a Chinaman! We've been wrong about it being Jesus all along.

Stop spreading confucian among the faithful.

Man who lay woman on ground gets piece on earth.

Date: 2008/06/04 09:33:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 03 2008,22:01)
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 03 2008,13:42)
I don't have anything as exciting as Albatrossity, but I have discussed the latest goings on on my balcony.  Little feather bastards taking the piss out of the cat.

I had two birds on a balcony once, Bob. Magic, magic times.

YEAH WELL, I KNOW GUY WHO KNEW A GUY WHO HAD SEVEN. dT

Date: 2008/06/04 22:25:11, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 05 2008,05:22)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 04 2008,20:48)
WTF is up with the post-comic font?

Your quote and font tags were improperly nested.

Fixed it for you.

Oh he's improperly nested all right!

Raised by eagles and lives on roadkill.

Date: 2008/06/05 06:48:40, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 05 2008,13:23)
Denyse O'Leary suspends comments in order to protect the commenters!

Denyse O'Leary, internationally renowned Toronto Based Journalist and Freedom Fighter has suspended comments on all of her blogs - but only to protect the commenters.

It seems that a writer, Mark Steyn, is being hauled before the Canadian Human Rights Commission for hate speech - he quoted a Muslim saying something that another Muslim took a dislike to and has been hauled before the Commission - which has a 100% conviction rate.

Says Denyse, "This "human rights" situation is the reason I disabled the comboxes at my blogs recently. The galloping rate at which "human rights" commissions will hear cases of people claiming to have been offended by something they read leaves me with little choice. As a writer, I must subject myself to that risk, but cannot ethically subject others - not until or unless these commissions are relieved of most of their current responsibilities - including all responsibility for policing Internet content."

You see, if she wrote something for you, you'd be in ... wait, that's not right.  If she allowed you to write something that offended a Muslim, then you'd be in trouble and it would be her ... wait, that's not right either.

You see, if she was to write one of the typically brainless things she is in the habit of writing and you showed why it was brainless and it offended her, she could have you hauled up before the Human Rights Commission.  Well, that's closer anyway.

Link - you'll have to scroll down.

As near as I can tell, she wrote this at 9:51 am, June 4th.

Being ever-so-slightly more aware of things than Denyse, Ed Brayton wrote about it on May 27.

edited to correct date

Never_Be_Rude_to_an_Arab

Date: 2008/06/05 07:25:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 05 2008,07:39)
well i can say fer shore i've never been accused of being improperly nested.  improperly hunkered down perhaps but around here men don't sit on the eggs that is a womans job.

True Story:  one of my best friend's mommer taught at Whittier Elementary back of this a while back, before the republicans built new schools and sentenced whittier younguns to bus rides.  Said she was teaching spelling to some of them children and the word was Egg (they were either 2nd or 3rd grade or from California I don't reckon I remember).  

Little girl said "Egg.  A-I-G-G.  Egg".  

but she meant it like she said it which was like she spelled it and mark twain couldn't do nothing with that i reckon.

ETA:  by the way field work tends to make me drunker.  thanks Loo

I'll go along with that. She could have made an excellent linguist or musician.

Certain engineering types tend to be bad at languages since in my experience they tend to be visual spatial objectivists. At the extreme they have absolutely no subjective empathetic intuition. Their world is a cold heartless fascist techno dystopia devoid of subjective meaning.

Conversely again in my experience people who can grok a foreign word immediately in both meaning and accurate parroted sound I would describe as aural musical people and perceive the world through sounds and have an ability to see the world through others eyes. They can inhabit your skin; in general machines to them are a closed book.

In Joseph Conrad's modernist "The Heart of Darkness" he describes Marlow's journey up river where the Belgian company for whom he works and their employee's describe the Africans in industrial language as mere cordwood and expendable units. Marlow however describes the remanufacturing of his "engineering mind" into a more aural perceptive mind ejecting both materialism and normal logic overboard to cope with the alien, to him, pre-modern human environment to maintain his sanity. Thus of course implying that modern imperial industrialism causes insanity.

Engineers can make the worst bibliolaters since they are literally objectivist robots who see words as true symbols of fact and not the subjective aural poetic meaning the creators of those words intended.

In other words dreams, song lyrics and sacred texts don't have schematic diagrams representing concrete or dictionaries with precise spelling and absolute definitions.

Sacred texts are purely subjective insights and one's own interpretation is totally dependent on one's own perception and experience. There are plenty of people, too many today in my view, who are ostensibly well educated but completely ignorant of pre modern culture who are completely incapable of understanding the signs and signifiers of life without electricity, communications, plentiful food, medical care, cheap travel, deathless childbirth, law's and enforcement of law, sexual equality, education, clocks, pesticides, non arbitrary government, the scientific method, nonmagical reality the list goes on.

Yet millions of people believe that those, what we now call  biblical, stories which bubbled to the surface of a few ancient writers consciousness, probably after a hard long hungry chilly night, believe them to be truer than a photon. Those writers believed a man could be turned into a bird, witches and the killing of them were commonplace. Death was not due to natural  causes but the result of of some evil. No truth existed that was not equal to a lie.

The more things change.....

Date: 2008/06/05 08:14:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 05 2008,14:47)
hey them callifornicans hump livestock more than folks in the Peach State (aint that a peach).  I have it on good authority that Tarden is balls deep in an antelope as we speak.

His antelope is gay and desperate though.

Date: 2008/06/05 09:03:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Amadan @ June 04 2008,23:37)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 04 2008,09:18)
   
Quote (Amadan @ June 04 2008,16:51)
   
Quote (Annyday @ May 17 2008,10:14)
GASP! God's a Chinaman! We've been wrong about it being Jesus all along.

Stop spreading confucian among the faithful.

Man who lay woman on ground gets piece on earth.

<Brooklyn Accent>
Hey, if Jesus was a Jew, how come he got a Mexican name?

He was a Catholic?

Date: 2008/06/05 10:40:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 05 2008,18:33)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 05 2008,08:15)
   
Quote (huwp @ June 05 2008,09:53)
   
Quote (Louis @ June 05 2008,03:45)
1) If we tolerate X in others (turn a blind eye etc) then X will proliferate and everything will be destroyed.

2) If it weren't for (religious*) moral proposition Y everyone would be doing immoral act X.

But there again, as Macaulay wrote:


"The Puritan hated bear-baiting, not because it gave pain to the bear, but because it gave pleasure to the spectators"

[Arden Chatterbox]

....and that might lead to dancing.   :angry:

[/Arden Chatterbox]

SHUT IT CARLSON I SAW SOM BRUSH ON YOU'RE RANCH THAT NEADS CLEARING. :angry:

WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING? HORSES WILL ONLY DO IT IN PRIVATE WITH YOU.

Bcz they *nead* you, maybe that's the only way they can get a rise!

Date: 2008/06/05 10:42:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (skeptic @ June 05 2008,17:06)
you all demonstrate the problem and to illustrate it another way, when Bush was asked what mistakes he had made he couldn't come up with any.  Why?  Because to do so would just have lent ammunition to his critics.  You guys are at war with an opposing viewpoint and in doing so loose sight of the actual topic.

Consider this, in an actual scientific discussion between evolutionary biology, ID and YEC, evolution wins hands down, every time, end of discussion.  Anything beyond that has nothing to do with science and all to do with religion.

Ask yourselves this question, what are the limitations of the current theory, what remains unanswered and more importantly why?  Can you answer the question?  That answer may be more important than any identification of weaknesses or unanswered questions.  For my part, with very little effort and preparation I could present an entire lecture on the limitations of the current theory and never once mention ID or creationism.  It's purely a matter of understanding the limitations of the science and being objective.

Finally, I don't make these comments to travel the same old tired path once again.  Every now and then, though, you guys just need to be reminded that you fight a battle on the fringes and the majority of people sit in the middle unthreatened and largely uninterested.  again IMO.

What war?

Bush's mis-spake on science?

Date: 2008/06/05 10:48:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 05 2008,18:40)
THE EMASCULATE CONCEPTION HAR HAR THIS IS YOU


HAR HAR A MERCY ZEBRA.

Don't laugh I'm off to Mozambique ....cheap wine, tall slender perky tited black pussy with legs all the way to heaven and fantastique beachs. Eat your hearts out fuckers.

Date: 2008/06/05 11:04:11, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 05 2008,18:54)
k.e*@#^ what about the 'pasigraphy' from the Panbiogeography thread?  objectifying the subjective, or what?

if there were perfect ecological crystals, empirically grounded units of measurement, anywhere in biology, would the engineers win?

are the ontological claims of english language use (or germanic, or whatever group fits) different from those claims of tribal language use?  in other words, does "THE rock" have the same meaning?  I've always been confused in my attempts to learn Cherokee since many of the familiar structures of syntax and grammar from English simply don't seem to have the same relational meaning.  Not so much as  when I have learned spanish french or latin, which seem to be more a function of learn vocabulary and some idiosyncratic conjugations which more or less follow deducible rule sets.  Not so as a yoneg learning Tsalagi.

the critique by conrad is incomplete without the (later) view from Daniel Quinn, Wendell Berry, Aldo Leopold and Edward Abbey.  'insanity' is insufficiently defined to be useful, but it sure would be interesting to explore further.  But then so would some hot siamese twins conjoined at the duodenum.

One day I'm going to buy you beer then make you finish a bottle of Laphroaig which you better do quick bcz after you will be rising pre dawn to fish for something supremely edible, bring your own twins.

Date: 2008/06/05 21:25:16, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 06 2008,01:23)
Can a tornado in a junk yard assemble a 747?

Just curious.

No .....but a handful of dust can be blown into a man.

Date: 2008/06/05 22:14:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 06 2008,05:43)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 05 2008,22:25)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 06 2008,01:23)
Can a tornado in a junk yard assemble a 747?

Just curious.

No .....but a handful of dust can be blown into a man.

I'm pretty sure a 747 in a junkyard can generate a tornado, too.

And some humans can generate an awful lot of hot air.


......Why is marriage like a tornado?

Date: 2008/06/06 00:18:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 06 2008,08:01)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 05 2008,12:48)
WmAD is pissed!!
     
Quote
Colorado Governor Bill Ritter’s signing of a transgender anti-discrimination bill points up the lunacy that ensues in a world without design

Great, just great! The cross-dressers can now eat in the Baylor cafeteria and he still can't.  And, to add insult to injury, he can't make fun off them anymore, either.  Damn liberals! Always screwing up his fun!

If Dembski showed up at the Baylor cafeteria in a dress, I'd let him in.

Yeah he could wear that low cut knitted affair.....very haut couture. It must be the only one in existance.

Date: 2008/06/07 08:23:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 07 2008,15:53)
Quote (skeptic @ June 07 2008,01:44)
Bill, I still think the way to go is to affect their accreditation.   It seems to me to make more sense as educators setting standards rather than legislators.  That would also remove the State by State problem and provide a broader basis for addressing the "weakness" issue.  In fact, in a scientific sense a theory weaknesses could be unanswered questions or conflicting data.  You could easily compare gradualism vs punctuated equilibrium or the relative influence of natural selection vs other mechanism or even explain from a historical perspective the lack of inheritance fixation until Mendel was rediscovered and what theories were prevalent in the during that period. This way the discussion stays completely oriented on science and any attempt to push it further becomes blatant and requires support that is non-existent.  This keeps scientists discussing science and nothing else.

Skeptic, I don't understand your point vis accreditation. Can you restate?

More generally, your reply doesn't speak to my point. The discussions you are suggesting here (a genuine exploration of punctuationism; the role of natural selection versus other mechanisms in propelling evolution; a presentation of the history of these powerful scientific ideas) are long-standing features of discourse within evolutionary biology, are already part of good pedagogy and need no legislative protection.

Creationist/ID advocates have a long history of presenting distorted and dishonest caricatures of such genuine conceptual and empirical contests for the sole purpose of pressing their religiously motivated points of view (e.g. punctuationism supports "sudden appearance"). "Strengths and weaknesses" legislation seeks to give legal cover to public school teachers who want to introduce these religiously motivated, scientifically irrelevant creationist chestnuts into the science classroom (an otherwise illegal activity).

That's the purpose. That's the ONLY purpose. YOU KNOW THAT. Why would you support THAT?

I'll make it easy for you.....septik  supports lying liars but just to throw us off the scent gives lip service to creationists being wrong.

The truth is he is one of them, not because he agrees with creationism he doesn't, he supports their politics.

He is secretly homophobic or any other form of rampant hornynessphobic and seeks the tiniest glimmer of stuffed shirt connservative anti reality newspeak. Any lie to support his walled in tribal cloister is ok by him.

People like him are born with a wooden spoon up their rectum and an ice chip on their shoulder.

They can't help themselves, to let go of their facist worldview would mean instant death of their pathic egos.

Date: 2008/06/08 07:33:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Don't worry Crying Slimy Sal. Panza will go over and get big mean dT to impersonate Sal's self and tell you off for being mean then threaten to hack the site....(That's UD BTW Dt <snicker>)

As they did back in the good old days on Panda's when Sal. Panza was trying to untangle one of Demquixote's windmill charging Tautological Sesquipedalian Obscurantisms ™ for us great unwashed.

From memory his abject failure to define one of his master’s private definitions for CSI. Needless to say he shot both his feet off and declared victory.

He did pick up a new word though....Obscurantism is not what you think it is Sal. I'm afraid.....first hit on Google is a bitch.

He has the endearing habit of forgetting to put his foot in the stirrup before he mounts.
Always leading to a delicious dénouement which he is always the last to realize.

Sal. Panza goes for glory when he thinks he is on a winner ...erm of course the fights he picks are with the worlds leading intellectuals (i.e. anyone smarter than Sal. .......sorry olegt that didn't mean you are stupid) and the subjects are ferocious world changing paper man eating tigers.

The comedy is, he is so tragic.

Watch him move onto discussing the price of fish in Madrid with Chinese Super Models.

Date: 2008/06/08 11:06:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (J-Dog @ June 08 2008,16:59)
Intelligent Design Gets More Press

So here I am, early Sunday morning, drinking coffee, trying to play catchup on my reading form yesterday, since I was out for baseball all day, and getting ready to leave for more baseball today, when I came accross this paragraph in the morning edition of Daily Kos, in a long frontpage story entitled Why Clinton Lost.

"It was not a narrative, but a meta-narrative. She was electable because she was electable, and anything that disproved that theory was dismissed as an exception. It was the campaign equivalent of Intelligent Design"

My bolding, to highlight the money shot.

Daily Kos Link

I guess the word about what ID is, and what it stands for is  really getting out there.

So ID supporters ......won't vote for Obahma?

ID supporters suffer from Irrelavancy Syndrome?

ID supporters won't admit defeat?

ID supporters are yesterday's people?

ID supporters are angry white females?

ID supporters are self aggrandizing hypocrites?

ID supporters are smarmy schemers?

ID supporters were cuckolded by a wiser more famous man ( That's Darwin before you all go P.C. on me)

ID supporters didn't rely on modern technology but love sewing circles.

ID supporters thought it was in the bag.

ID supporters clap like pussies.

ID supporters point to 'friends' in the audiece and wave like they 'know' them.

ID supporters are populists without popularity.

ID supporters talk out of their asses while holding their noses.

...look i'm getting another drink someone else take over here...

Date: 2008/06/08 12:21:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 08 2008,19:44)
ID supporters are men with halfway sex change operations?

ID supporters are shamed by dress stains?

ID supporters are Arkansas yankees?

ID supporters have teeth in their vagina?

i dunno.

That's sooooo 20th Century.....

Date: 2008/06/08 12:26:26, Link
Author: k.e..
ID going down like Ross Perot (which he probably did) et. al. is sweet mollasis / mollases to my horse.

Date: 2008/06/08 12:36:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 08 2008,20:30)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 08 2008,10:21)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 08 2008,19:44)
ID supporters are men with halfway sex change operations?

ID supporters are shamed by dress stains?

ID supporters are Arkansas yankees?

ID supporters have teeth in their vagina?

i dunno.

That's sooooo 20th Century.....

k.e., weren't you supposed to be cavorting with the locals in Maputo by now?

Time wounds all heals.

I'll be going in 2 weeks and not surfacing for 6 afterwards. AND I'll not be wasting my kilojoules on the likes of you homos before then. There are several hot spots  I plan not be evading in between :P

Date: 2008/06/09 00:19:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 09 2008,05:39)
WAD:
   
Quote
Obama: Helping Humanity Evolve
William Dembski

Here’s an excerpt from the San Francisco Chronicle about Obama. Adjectives like “fawning,” “effusive,” and “unhinged” don’t quite capture this article, which is titled “Is Obama an Enlightened Being?” “Messianic” is more like it. Interestingly, the highest praise that this article heaps on Obama is that he will “help us evolve.”

     
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Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.


I suppose this is one of the reasons ID is despised — it rips to shreds evolution’s religious pretensions.

The passage WAD quotes is new age gas, which advocates a fairy tale version of "human evolution" that bears no more relationship to the realities of natural history and biological evolution than does intelligent design.

Surely WAD knows better than to conflate the two.

NOW LISTEN HEAR LADYBOYS, BILL IS NOT A NEW AGE RAPTUROUS SHAFT OF LIGHT ANGEL HUGGER HE'S A NEW AGE ZERO ENERGY NIL INFORMATION RAPTUROUS SHAFT OF LIGHT ANGEL HUGGER.

HE DESPISES EVOLUTION (AND DEMOCRATS) BECAUSE MATERIALISM WON'T GIVE HIM A FREE LUNCH OR ENOUGH TO BUY HISSELF A NEW CARDIGAN.

THAT WOULD UNHINGE ANYONE WITH 2 PHD’S OR EVEN ANYONE WITH AN UNUSED PHD IN MATH AND A REVEREND’S CERTIFICATE FROM A CORNER BIBLE STORE.

WHICH IS WHY BILL HAS RETIRED TO THROWING EMPTY CANS OF COOL AID AT OTHER CRACKPOTS WHO ARE TRYING TO STEAL HIS LIMELIGHT..... PARTICULARLY DEMOCRAT OBSCURANTISM CRACKPOTS.

IT IS NOT…… REPEAT NOT CYNISCISM OK? D/T

Date: 2008/06/09 08:03:00, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 09 2008,11:53)
"I suppose this is one of the reasons ID is despised — it rips to shreds evolution’s religious pretensions," says leading ID intellectual William A. Dembski, from his office at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Or that mater spanked him within an inch of her white frilly tight garters and over the top lace and iron bustier for him spying on her and hisself's atheist professor/swami hairy competitor.

Uncle Billy's Freudian nightmares continue to haunt his re-entry into mother Gia.

Next he will be melting into some sort of DaveTard induced chain sawing of Greenland's new age Inuit mushroom ranches.

Date: 2008/06/09 08:09:38, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (utidjian @ June 09 2008,14:57)
Ceiling Cat,

That was an excellent post. Too bad it won't/can't be posted at UD.

-DU-

Holy crap that's all?

I only just get it.......

'design'

....is a simple code for """god did it"'"?

And a 150 year old idea that is just an anti modernist 'help mommy "god doesn't exist please tell me you didn't lie to me" bawl'

FUCK!

Date: 2008/06/09 08:20:07, Link
Author: k.e..
BASTARD!! NOW YOU HAVE THE MOST EXOTIC LOCATION  FLAG!!!!! NOW I'M GOING THERE WITH DYNAMITE TO DO A SIESMIC SURVEY JUST BCAUSE YOU POSTED THAT.

EVEN IF THERE ISN'T ANY OIL!!!!ONE ke

Date: 2008/06/09 08:23:58, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 09 2008,16:19)
[FtK]
Oldman

Surely you know that all of those data and interpretations, cited in your comment, were dreamed up by atheists. And most of those atheists were meanies, too! That Hugo de Vries fellow, for sure, probably strangled puppies just for fun.

Why would anyone believe that stuff?
[/FtK]

You didn't say "phcuk" ....so no points for impersonation.

Date: 2008/06/09 08:47:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ June 09 2008,16:41)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 09 2008,08:03)
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 09 2008,11:53)
"I suppose this is one of the reasons ID is despised — it rips to shreds evolution’s religious pretensions," says leading ID intellectual William A. Dembski, from his office at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Or that mater spanked him within an inch of her white frilly tight garters and over the top lace and iron bustier for him spying on her and hisself's atheist professor/swami hairy competitor.

Uncle Billy's Freudian nightmares continue to haunt his re-entry into mother Gia.

Next he will be melting into some sort of DaveTard induced chain sawing of Greenland's new age Inuit mushroom ranches.

I'm notifying the media that Thomas Pynchon has surfaced....

I love a good pinching.

Date: 2008/06/09 08:57:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ June 09 2008,16:54)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 09 2008,08:47)
Quote (Maya @ June 09 2008,16:41)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ June 09 2008,08:03)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 09 2008,11:53)
"I suppose this is one of the reasons ID is despised — it rips to shreds evolution’s religious pretensions," says leading ID intellectual William A. Dembski, from his office at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Or that mater spanked him within an inch of her white frilly tight garters and over the top lace and iron bustier for him spying on her and hisself's atheist professor/swami hairy competitor.

Uncle Billy's Freudian nightmares continue to haunt his re-entry into mother Gia.

Next he will be melting into some sort of DaveTard induced chain sawing of Greenland's new age Inuit mushroom ranches.

I'm notifying the media that Thomas Pynchon has surfaced....

I love a good pinching.

How long can you go before surfacing?

Well...that depends on where I am and the time of night.

Date: 2008/06/09 09:28:46, Link
Author: k.e..
OK time for a little seriousness since books is hisself's first love...after my mother and all her younger sisters ...thank you all.

I took it easy on my last trip and only read some short stories since I treated hisself to an Ipod Classic 160 loaded up with ...hold on a sec. one of my gf's from Indon. has just sms'ed me ....I'll be right back...

OK here it is Collected Stories by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

This traces his growth and mastery of his style over his career.

My suggestion is to start with the second last story and read it backwards to the first saving the end story for last.

Believe me it will make the pleasure almost perfect.

In my humble opinion his genius is unmatched except by maybe Joyce.

The last book I read by him My Melancholy Whores again defines him as the best male love story writer since whatever you want.

For an airport read John le Carré's The Missionary Song is a soft tease but we all need that once in a while.

Date: 2008/06/09 09:41:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 09 2008,17:13)
Dr Dr Dembski is showing his true colours
   
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dmso74: Ask yourself where “spiritual evolution” gets its inspiration. Orthodoxy Christianity and traditional readings of Genesis? Hardly.

Link
So ID gets it's inspiration from Orthodoxy Christianity and traditional readings of Genesis? I can believe that...

Of course not. It stopped stone cold dead when Mr. Rev. Doc. Bill Demskisovich put his lecturn grasping pale white loveless clammy hands on it.

Date: 2008/06/09 19:24:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 10 2008,02:32)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 09 2008,14:24)
Not a bad attempt at mimicking Denyse, but I only had to read it once to understand what you were trying to say.  You need to turn incoherency up to 11.

Quote
And not nearly enough ending a sentence with a preposition - despite what Quidam would have you believe with, unless it's the wholly unnecessarily complicating a simple thought, from the brain, to which the eye is the key to the soul.

Goodly dudes, this isn't imitation. It is Denyse passed through my Makesensifier.

The Makesensifier accepts D'OL prose at one end and reorders it into intelligible English. This is a computationally intensive process.

Only then can one fully appreciate the idiocy of her position.

OH YEAH?

WELL WHAT ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN YUR BRAIN AND YUR SPHINCTER, HOMO?

BECAUSE NOBODY THINKS YUR A VENTRILOQUIST AND PUTTING WORDZ IN DENYEASTS' MOUTH BEFORE SHE HAD A SHAVE AND MADE TO WALK BACKWARDS IS VERY UNCHRISTAIN. dt

Date: 2008/06/10 07:23:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (J-Dog @ June 10 2008,04:13)
Another sign that Waterloo is here, ID has won and ID is the New Paradigm:

One Book, One University Explores Darwin and Evolution
EVANSTON, Ill. --- This summer all new, incoming Northwestern University undergraduate students will receive a copy of “The Reluctant Mr. Darwin: An Intimate Portrait of Charles Darwin and the Making of His Theory of Evolution” as part of the 2008 “One Book, One Northwestern” project.

The project -- which will include free and public lectures related to the topic of evolution and natural selection in the upcoming academic year -- will culminate in February with a lecture by the author.

GO CATS GO!

Link to NU's One Book Prioject

I'm sure he means "The recalcitrant Mr. Darwin".

Which means dragging reluctant atheist homosexual non Republicans into a god believing sexual procrastination network of fuck 'em while they're down in the pews by pitchfork wielding knuckle draggers since god happens to be white and a tractor pull MC and he decided it that way.

Date: 2008/06/11 05:28:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (keiths @ June 11 2008,10:12)
Quote (stevestory @ June 10 2008,23:27)
I can't describe the joyous feeling of snorting some straight-up tard from Uncommon Descent. At it's best, it's like being inside a Polyphonic Spree song.

From the comments on that YouTube video:
 
Quote (creator101 @ ,)
Epic song but jesus how much weed do these people go through?

BACK WHEN I WAS IN TEH MARINES SAVING USA FROM YOU HEATHENS MY DRILL SARGEANT (WHO WAS ALSO A BARTENDER AND THEREFORE CLOSER TO GOD THAN ME) KNEW A GUY WHO KNEW ANOTHER GUY WHO COULD GET US ALL STONED.
I JUST DIDN'T SHOTGUN A WHOLE KILO OF SENSIMILLIAN  IN ONE SITTING WITH MY BEST BUDDIES IN THE BACK OF A HUEY ....I ACTUALLY INHALED IT TOO.
WE ALL ENDED UP NAKED ON A BEACH UNDER A PILE OF EMPTY PIZZA BOXES AND ...THIS IS THE BEST BIT...OUR GHETTO BLASTER HAD THAT SONG ON IT !!ONE11TWO. dt

Date: 2008/06/11 09:00:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 11 2008,14:30)
Since Vox Day and IQ have arisen together, this is worth repeating:

Here Vox Day attacks Dawkins vis his credentials to write The God Delusion:
 
Quote
Whereas he describes  himself as a “passionate Darwinian” as an academic scientist, he calls himself “a passionate anti-Darwinian” with regards to the proper conduct of human affairs. This naturally puts Dawkins in an untenable position, as he not only lacks both education and professional experience in the academic fields that relate to human conduct, such as history, philosophy, political science, literature, psychology, and  theology, it also renders his book somewhat of a fraudulent bait-and-switch. (page 136)

But here is Vox Day on his OWN qualifications to write The Irrational Atheist:
 
Quote
At first glance, it may seem crazy that a computer game designer, one whose only significant intellectual accomplishment of note is to have once convinced Michelle Malkin to skip an opportunity to promote herself, should dare to dispute an Oxford don, a respected university professor, a famous French philosopher, a highly regarded journalist, and an ecstasy-using dropout who is still working toward a graduate degree at forty . . . okay, perhaps that last one makes sense. As Gag Halfrunt is reliably reported to have said of the immortal Za- phod Beeblebrox, I’m just zis guy, ya know?

But don’t be tempted by the logical fallacy of the Appeal To Authority; after all, in this age of academic specialization, an evolutionary biologist is less likely to be an expert on the historical causes of war and religious conflict than the average twelve-year-old wargamer, and even a professor in the field of cognitive studies may not have spent as much time contemplating the deeper mysteries of intelli- gence as a game designer who has seen many a sunrise while experimenting with the best way to make the monsters smarter. (page 3)

If you didn't laugh at that, there is something wrong with you.

ETA: quotes are from "The Irrational Atheist."

har har har.....

Quote
....one whose only significant intellectual accomplishment of note is to have once convinced Michelle Malkin to skip an opportunity to promote herself.....


Brav-fucking-o what a marvelous success story!

Now he is going to use whatever brain power left over from that resounding victory to inetektuulee disembowel Richard Dawkins?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gormless twit.

Date: 2008/06/11 09:04:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Ftk @ June 11 2008,16:54)
Vox wouldn't post over here...his IQ is far too high to mingle with the likes of you folks... :p  :p  :p

But, here's an idea.  Why not set up a thread for Vox and PZ to debate...you'd need some moderators and judges from both sides, etc.  It sounded like he was up for something like that as long as he didn't have to host the thing from his own blog.

Oh, and...



:p  :p  :p

Ah Ftk ......you do know that gamers are one handed mouse fidlers....don't you?

Date: 2008/06/11 10:01:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Ftk @ June 11 2008,17:19)
Shut up, OM.  If you're implying that Walt should do something like that...HE HAS!  Although KCFS wouldn't agree to participate in judging or anything, we still pulled it off for about 3 months.  

Oh, and...


HAWT...(literally..lol)

and...


HAWT...Look at those eyes!!  Yummy.

And, if you think he's hot, you should see his wife!!!  WOW.

Better than that.... we got the video.

Redneck Woman

Date: 2008/06/11 10:22:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 11 2008,16:53)
The strongest Tard in the universe:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....gravity

But has he seen a graviton?

LADYBOY RTH TOSSES IN A CRIMSON PIRAHNAH WITH HIS "GRAVYTRON" COMMENT OVER ON AtBC.

JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T OBSERVED ONE DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T EXIST.

PHYSICISTS DON'T EXTRAPOLATE LIKE BIOLOGISTS OR THEOLOGIANS DO. THEY ONLY DO HARD SCIENCE AND GRAVYTRONS ARE HARDER THAN SCIENCE FICTION WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS MONKEY'S MOTHERS ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO READ.

INCIDENTLY GRAVY IS MY FAVORITE TOPPING ON MUSHROOMS YOU KNOW .....AND I'M CONVERTING MY RICE COOKER TO A FAST MUSHROOM BREEDER.

ANYWAY BACK TO HARD SCIENCE.

I WIN EVEN IF THEY DON'T FIND A GRAVYTRON BECAUSE BIOLOGY CAN'T WIN AN ARGUEMENT AGAINST ME ME ME. dT

Date: 2008/06/11 10:33:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 11 2008,18:23)
Quote (Nerull @ June 11 2008,10:09)
Lets talk science, FTK.

How does an asteroid, ejected off the earth, arrive in a circular orbit beyond mars?

It's a simple physics question. I'm sure you have an answer.

[FtK]

But that's so unfair! I'm not a scientist. And you meanies never discuss science here, you just bash religion and tell homo jokes about each other. I only discuss science on my blog, and at UD, where the real scientists hang out.

But PZ still needs to show me that he knows everything in regard to history, religion and apologetics. I know a lot about those things, and so does VD. That big meanie PZ just can't compete with VD. Swoon.

Oh, and just for Lou's benefit, fuck.

[/FtK]

Is that better, k.e..?

OK HOMO .......BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE MY CAPS LOCK KEY OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS.

Date: 2008/06/11 11:02:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ June 11 2008,18:49)
Quote
Salvador T. Cordova: II see [sic] Rubin you've not even attempted to create a set of differential equations which will inevitably lead to a self replicating computer.

No I refutued that even your mischaracterization didn't hold water, [sic] Robbin.

By the way, [[sic] sick] Rubin, for the readers benefit ...

Robin had properly used the term sic (thus) to indicate that a misspelling was not a transcription error, but found in the original comment. Salvador T. Cordova turns it into self-parody.

Then he will get this joke on misused latin "SEEK TRAINSEAT GLORIA MONDAY"

Date: 2008/06/11 20:51:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (GCT @ June 12 2008,02:46)
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 11 2008,15:45)
Patrick discusses Behe in the third person:

     
Quote
The whole point of Behe’s new book was to try and find experimental evidence for exactly what Darwinian mechanisms are capable of. On the other hand we have speculative indirect stepwise pathway scenarios but so far the OBSERVED “edge of evolution” doesn’t allow these models to be feasible. But this “edge” is an estimate based upon a limited set of data which in turn “might” mean the estimated “edge” is far less than the maximum capable by Darwinian mechanisms. If Darwinists would bother to do further experiments they may see if this “edge” could in reality be extended. Then if this new derived “edge” is compatible with these models then so be it (though I’ll add the caveat that the “edge” might be better for Darwinism only in limited scenarios). In the meantime they’re just assuming the “edge” allows for it. Even worse, unless I failed to notice the news, the very first detailed, testable (and potentially falsifiable) model for the flagellum is yet to be fully completed (I realize there are people working on producing one) so a major challenge of Behe’s first book is yet to be refuted, never mind the new book.

Linky

Hey, if you've got a flagellum, why don't you whip it out?

So, let me see if I got this straight...

"The "edge" of evolution is only an edge until we find another edge further out, but it's still the limit of Darwinism even though they've shown another limit because Behe has to be right that goddidit."

OK, I think I did get it.

God of the edges?

(not to be confused with god of the gaps...which has 2 edges...so once you are over the edge it's turtles all the way down)

Date: 2008/06/11 21:35:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reed @ June 12 2008,05:01)
Quote (GCT @ June 11 2008,16:46)
"The "edge" of evolution is only an edge until we find another edge further out, but it's still the limit of Darwinism even though they've shown another limit because Behe has to be right that goddidit."

OK, I think I did get it.

The goal post is always at the edge of the field.

Just sayin'  ;)

HAR HAR ......THAT'S JUST LIP SERVICE.

Date: 2008/06/12 00:44:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 12 2008,06:15)
Oi, Denyse...

http://www.cnn.com/2008....ex.html

   
Quote
The Canadian government and religious groups operated the schools throughout Canada from the 1870s until the 1970s. The government says 80,000 former students are still alive.

In his statement, Harper acknowledged that children were forcibly taken from their families and isolated from their culture and traditions.

In many cases, children suffered neglect and physical and sexual abuse while in the schools, which Harper acknowledged was intended "to kill the Indian in the child."


... from the Tard Mine  
Quote
DaveScot 03/26/2007
It just ocurred to me that according to Ernst Mayr I must be a different species from Inuits. We’re reproductively isolated by geography and there isn’t a snowball’s chance in south central Texas I’d be attracted to an Inuit woman anyhow even though we’re probably still physically compatible on a hypothetical basis sort of like brown bears and polar bears.


SO KILLING INDIANS IS OK BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HYPOTHETICALLY FUCK ONE IN A SNOW DRIFT BECAUSE I LIKE BEARS ARE NOT THE SAME SPECIES BECAUSE WE ARE A DIFFERENT COLOR.

YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH A MORON AND I R TEH OWNER OF THAT SPACE. dT

Date: 2008/06/12 01:21:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zarquon @ June 12 2008,08:53)
People get the hots for  Vox because his Dad's a loony  criminal and that makes him dangerous to know.

And Jesus said "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's"

God help us all if Ftk and her cronies ever turn that around and replace the Law's of Rome with their queer version of Sharia from Jerusalem.

Date: 2008/06/12 05:55:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Marion Delgado @ June 12 2008,11:22)
This is a depiction of the Edge of Evolution .

As you can see, the evolution fish in the center think their scientific universe is boundless, but as time goes on they make smaller and smaller discoveries. On the other hand, to them the incredible progress made by Intelligent Design and the other critiques of evolution doesn't seem meaningful from the evolution fishes' perspective.

It's just like relativity near a black hole. Evolution is the black hole, and Dave Scott, Dr. Dembski, Dr. Behe, etc. are looking down from Dave's perch somewhere north of 150, which is exactly why he involves gravity in the discussion. In that sense, he's a neutron star of evolution analysis.

Being banned from Uncommon Descent is like being tossed back into the circle from the big, infinite, universe God made into the narrow, bounded world of mainstream science.

Also, if you invert the hyperbolic world of science, you get the elliptical geometry of God's round Earth. I think people like John Davison get it.



I hope this clarifies some of the things you can learn there. IF approached with humility and reverence.

K.E.. BOWS DEEPLY IN YUR DIRECTION...HOMO LADY BOY!!!!!!

Date: 2008/06/16 08:37:53, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
gpuccio 06/16/2008 6:18 am

...Some try do deny the evidence. But denying the ugliness means to become blind to the beauty, and I do believe that the resulting wasteland, devoid of any meaning and purpose, is the worst ugliness of which I am aware.


I couldn't agree more, Mr Soldier For Christ especially when they falsify the evidence to support a beautiful War in your god's name.


..apparantly a wasteland looks like this in Baghdad

Date: 2008/06/16 08:48:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ June 16 2008,15:27)
 
Quote (olegt @ June 15 2008,14:09)
Deep thoughts from gpuccio:
     
Quote
Unfortunately, we have not a quantitative model for beauty, as we have for CSI. In a sense, beauty could be considered a special kind of functional specification, a special kind of meaning and of conscious recognition. The simplest quantitative aspect of beauty in art and nature of which I am aware is the widespread presence of the golden ratio both in works of art and in biological beings.

The beauty argument backfires as duncan points out to the flip side of the coin---ugliness.  DaveT immediately zaps him but gpuccio feels compelled to respond at length saying "it’s not a problem for me, but the possible answers to those questions are obviously of philosophical and religious kind. I don’t think that’s at present a scientific problem."  Shouldn't that apply equally well to beauty?

OK HOMO-LADYBOY-GIRLYMAN FIRST OFF duncan IS AN ANAGRAM FOR Cad Nun WHICH IS AN INSULT TO THE RELIGIOUS FOLKS HERE AND AS AN AGNOSTIC OLD EARTH COMMON DESIGN CREATIONIST, OFFENDS ME TOO SINCE HE REMINDED ME OF DENYSE.

FURTHERMORE I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE PARANOID TO THE POINT OF NIHILISTIC CENSORSHIP OF ANY IDEA THAT I THINK MIGHT UPSET OUR PUP TENT OF PREPUBESCENT 30 SOMETHINGS ..SCIENCE=BEAUTY AND RELIGION=UGLY ...WE ONLY DISCUSS SCIENCE HERE.....OK? dt

P.S. AtBC THAT WASN'T A BANNING, IT WAS A NOTICE TO FUCK OFF.
WE ONLY HAVE OPEN DISCUSSIONS WITH CLOSED MINDED PEOPLE HERE.

Date: 2008/06/16 10:40:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 16 2008,18:11)
Oh dear.  Dave must have had a bad weekend.

Perhaps we should have a group hug, to make him feel better.

TAKE YOUR GROUP HUG AND SHOVE IT LADYMAN-GIRLYBOY.

WHEN I SAY YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK BEFORE SPOUTING OFF I AM ASSUMING NOBODY READS BECAUSE ID'ONT.

I AM AN AUTO-DIKTAK AND I KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN ALREADY.

TAKE BEHE'S "EDGE OF EVOLUTION' FOR INSTANCE..... DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT EDGE MEANS?

EDGE IS JUST CODE FOR GAP AND THE JESUS GROUPIES HERE KNOW WE CAN'T SAY GAP ANYMORE BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT HAS TO DO WITH PALM READERS AND TAROT CARD READERS.

EDGE IS HIGLY TECHNICAL AND IS AN KNOWN UNKNOWN OUTSIDE OF KNOWN KNOWNS BUT DEFINETLY NOT AN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN.

SO READ THE FRIGG'N BOOK AND YOU'LL KNOW MY UNKNOWNS. dt

Date: 2008/06/16 10:50:34, Link
Author: k.e..
Well the fact that she turned down my invitation to come upstairs and see my Koteka collection makes her a complete wet blanket for me.

Date: 2008/06/17 02:35:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 17 2008,09:22)
LOL@COLBERT tonight.

Bugger! I have to wait a week.

Date: 2008/06/17 04:03:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 14 2008,09:55)
...I had an unarmed-killing teacher who brought to class a boxer. Teacher told us to try and hurt him (the visitor). He easily blocked the standard kicks, and punched our lights out up close.

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU

REX KWAN DO

Date: 2008/06/17 07:56:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reginald Beasley @ June 17 2008,15:20)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 17 2008,06:09)
 
Quote (Assassinator @ June 17 2008,06:01)
 
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ June 17 2008,04:32)
Or is the funny bit here: http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/

Dammit, why isn't that being broadcasted here in Holland, I miss all the good stuff! O well we dó have the Daily Show over here.
Anyway, not much new stuff in that one, just saying what we already knew. That Colbert guy is awesome though.

I download the Colbert show via usenet, day after it's shown.  Naughty me.  PM me if you want some links etc.

Or you can just watch the Ken Miller interview on Uncommon Descent - DaveScot basically put up "Here's a video that makes us look stupid!"

KEN MILLER & COLBERT MAKES US LOOK STUPID?

WE OWN THAT SPACE ALREADY YOU CROSS DRESSING MONKEY-MEN.

AS FOR COLBERT'S DEEP MOLE WHO UNCOVERED THE DESIGN INSTITUTE'S LATEST DIKTAT PROMULGATING THE NEW OFFICIAL NAME FOR CREATIONISM TOWIT: "INTELLIGENT EVOLUTION" I HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOU .....RUN!

TESTOSTERONE POWERED TRUCKS WITH REDNECKS WHO DON'T READ BUT WATCH TV ARE OILING UP THEIR THEIR AXE HANDLES AS WE SPEAK.

"INTELLIGENT EVOLUTION" IS NOT THE GODSPELL OF ST. JOHN RESTATED IN THE LANGUAGE OF DISINFORMATION NO...NO....NO...IT IS THE PROPAGANDA OF ÜBER-BILL THE JOESEPH GOEBELS OF DISINFORMATION.

NOBODY MESSES WITH A BIBLE WAVING TEXAS NAZI! dt

Date: 2008/06/17 08:02:24, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ June 17 2008,15:55)
I love Poachy:
   
Quote
   
Quote
Will anyone who knows anything about ID ever be given a chance to cross examine Barbara Forrest in a public forum.

Well, somebody other than those yahoos from the Thomas More Law Center. Why they didn’t consult with an ID thinker, in order to devise a strategy to back her into a tight spot and then turn the screws, is beyond comprehension.Will anyone who knows anything about ID ever be given a chance to cross examine Barbara Forrest in a public forum.

Well, somebody other than those yahoos from the Thomas More Law Center. Why they didn’t consult with an ID thinker, in order to devise a strategy to back her into a tight spot and then turn the screws, is beyond comprehension.

Charlie, on the other hand, nearly made my brain melt:
   
Quote
Hi Poachy,
Cute vise reference.
Try it with a little honesty next time.

So few words, so much hypocrisy.

WELL IF EVERYONE REMEMBERS CORRECTLY MY HERO ST. BILL DID JUST THAT, BEFORE THE TRIAL.

GEEZ THE SCREWS WERE SO TIGHT HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO TURN UP TO THE TRIAL.

THAT LIMP WRISTED, GAY HOMO, CAFE LATTE DRINKING,  CHARDONAY SWILLING, COMMIE JUDGE JONES BONED US. dt

Date: 2008/06/17 08:19:16, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 17 2008,00:49)
Quote (bystander @ June 16 2008,16:37)
Quote (Richard Simons @ June 16 2008,20:22)
What I find odd is the way she keeps coming back here even though she has nothing to say. It seems to all boil down to 'Brown, Behe and a few others have interesting things to say and I think you are all mean for not taking them seriously. Also, it is only fair to teach all views in schools.' In addition, she thinks atheists lack morals and has made a few comments about religion. Other than that, has she actually ever said anything?

At least Afdave had strong views and would put forth arguments that were initially entertaining but became frustrating when he never listened to anyone else.

It might sound sexist but I think she comes here because
1. She likes to mix it with the bad boys (and girls). Except for Sal and DT most of the UD crowd are pretty dry, if you don't understand why they are funny.
2. She also needs to have the last word

True, the margin we trounce them by in science is exceeded by the banter here. We have memes, celebrate birthdays, don't have a ba^tshit nann^y fil^ter....

MEMES  EH?
THE LAST MEME YOU HAD WAS EATING TWO KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKENS ON A BALCONY.
ASIDE FROM ALL THE CHOLESTEROL AND GREASY FINGERS YOU'RE STILL A HOMO! dt

Date: 2008/06/17 20:17:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 18 2008,01:37)
Oh, and about Poachy?

*raises hand sheepishly*

HAR HAR HOMO KNICKER LICKER.

I KNEW HISSELF WAS A VENTRILOQUIST'S DUMMY ALL THE TIME.

JUST LIKE I KNEW JANIEBELL AND HER COPORAL WERE *!NOT!* REPEAT not  not not HOT LESBIANS.

WHY?

BECAUSE I GOT A BONER WHENEVER YOU POSTED! dt

Date: 2008/06/17 20:28:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ June 18 2008,04:20)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 17 2008,17:37)
Oh, and about Poachy?

*raises hand sheepishly*

And here I was thinking I was getting all hot and bothered about J-Dog or k.e...

Yeah I'm gutted too.

I'll be avoiding the sly dog's love ranch if I'm out with a romantic persuit.

Date: 2008/06/17 21:01:55, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 18 2008,04:35)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 17 2008,19:16)
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 17 2008,17:53)
   
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 17 2008,18:37)
Oh, and about Poachy?

*raises hand sheepishly*

Well done, young man.

I doff Rich's TardCap to you.

A doff of Rich's tardcap? A DOFF OF RICH'S TARDCAP?

What the hell does a guy have to do around here to get a peek above JanieBelle's garters???  For an immoral, godless atheist, you sure are a tease. And I don't mean that in a good way, either.  F**king chanceworshippers.   :angry:

Well, I'll speak to the girls, but they tend to have a mind of their own.

I hear Billy D's giving peeks above his in one of these threads, though...

Great news everybody the Secret Conspiracy of Atheist Triumph bugging operation has been a success

Black helicopters swooped into an unlit broom cupboard sized secret ID lab somewhere in south central Texas and planted nano genetic algorithm designed listening devices.

Here is a transcript.

*VARIOUS SOUNDS OF BUCKETS GETTING KICKED AND BROOM HANDLES KNOCKING AGAINST THE WALL FOLLOWED BY GRUNTS THEN SILENCE...

dt:SHHH .......THE'RE ONTO US!!
sal:SHUT UP YOU FOOL NO ONE CAN SEE US
bill:ARE YOU GUYS JUST GOING TO WHISPER SWEET NOTHINGS TO EACH OTHER OR ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE MR.CSI AN ANGEL KISS?
ba77: BILL MOVE AROUND A BIT WILL YA I CAN'T GET MY FINGER OUT.
bill: (....looks at finger nails) AND YOUR POINT?
...

Date: 2008/06/17 22:54:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quidam @ June 18 2008,06:13)
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 17 2008,16:36)
 
Quote (Quidam @ June 17 2008,17:01)
If it's gotta be a Dr.Dr.

Some things are just...

wrong.

You should apologize immediately






to that girl.

She's Thursday, so I'll apologize then

That dutch wink goes all the way back to last Saturday.

Date: 2008/06/18 00:46:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeffox @ June 18 2008,06:46)
'Deed, happy day to ya!

Get up.
Get laid.
Get drunk.
Get stoned.
Get some sleep.

My 2c.    :)

I'll fix that for you.

Get laid.
Get up.
Get laid.
Get drunk.
Get laid.
Get stoned.
Get laid.
Get some sleep.
Get laid.

Date: 2008/06/18 04:08:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
No no no, Dr Dr Dembski, it's
Quote  
 
Quote

To say that we can detect design in some cases doesn’t mean that the designer doesn’t act when we can’t detect it.


You can just see the Dr. Rev. Billy Bob Dembski dancing from his one elite yankee foot to the other on this one...

...or does when we can detect it
.....er.....
or can't when don't have to
...hmmm...
maybe we should just stick to saying we don't want to detect it.
Because we know the detector will be asked in the court of UFO-ology if the fall of a Tarot card will influence the outcome of a butterfly being mistaken for an angel....or something.

...puts thumb in mouth

Date: 2008/06/18 07:02:57, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 18 2008,14:20)
To change the subject slightly, is it just me or is Gil Dodg'em always being sanctimonious about something when he posts?  I can't help but visualize him with permanent bitter beer face.

.....and a permanent desire to look for beautiful empty cans in beautiful garbage bins at 3am on beautiful cold winter mornings.

Date: 2008/06/18 07:32:25, Link
Author: k.e..
I have .......the variety with two legs!

They have endless enery, are total pleasure seekers, don't know the meaning of let's rest, can drink you under a table, eat everything in sight, speak many foreign languages, eat a lot of fish,  are more comfortable in water, exquisite athletes, hold their breath for a long time, firm all over, incredibly playful, not in the least bit shy or afraid of danger and a diabolical sense of humor.

My kind of mammal!

Date: 2008/06/18 07:55:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 18 2008,15:45)
and when you get near their blow hole they start saying "ehnhuh ehnhuh ehnhuh ehnhuh" and nailing you with their tail.

I knew you wouldn't surface too far away.

I'm off for a nailing.

Date: 2008/06/18 09:24:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Sorry 'ras I was remarking on a Solomon Sea Dolphin and the Indian Ocean Porpoise my Solomoan Sea Dolphin is probably doing this right now.

The faithful mammal

Date: 2008/06/18 09:42:36, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 18 2008,17:26)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 18 2008,10:11)
is that my beautiful car?  is this my beautiful wife?

LOL (in oversized white suit)

Dream vs reality for Gil





Date: 2008/06/18 10:01:02, Link
Author: k.e..
Also......



Drunk Horse emphasizes the interpenetration of what are usually called "mind" and "body". According to this idea, people's deeply-held thoughts make them ill or at least create the preconditions for disease and psychological problems. We work to remove deeply held resentments, to release unexpressed emotions, to assuage buried terror (all of which, in this view, are caused by deeply held thoughts), in order to build self-confidence and to plant in people a positive and hopeful view of their path through life.... more

From some website

Date: 2008/06/18 10:08:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ June 18 2008,17:55)
That looks like fun!

Oh yes, they call him the geek
prove me that, prove me that
naturalistic thing on two feet
he's just as sick as he can be
of ID
and he's going to given 'em a tweak.
       
Quote
Interesting parallels…

Between Ken Miller going on The Colbert Report, and streaking? Ken Miller and Stephen Colbert and being nekkid? (Thanks for that, BTW.) What "parallels"? Two perpendicular lines in a paranoid schizophrenic's mind? ("Find X.") Latent homosexuality, maybe? Wouldn't that explain a lot?

Are you sure of what Gil dreams of? ;)

No.

I am sure you know better.

I was just thinking about beauty.

I am aware that some boy's have other ideas what that might be.

Date: 2008/06/18 20:41:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 18 2008,18:22)
 
Quote
I was just thinking about beauty.


HAR HAR THIS IS YOU


Ha, that's you're idea of beauty?

For someone claiming to be the owner of that cute ass someone here proposed for the cover of Dr DroT Billy's new book when in fact it I know your hairy ass looks like this...

Date: 2008/06/18 20:54:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (dheddle @ June 19 2008,04:35)
Quote (GCT @ June 18 2008,20:20)
AFAIK, Heddle has never said whether he actually accepts evolution or not.  I don't think he is a TE.

Well I think he is, and I'm wearing his underwear.

ok heddle ..er....thanks..... I found this

Lazyboy- Underwear Goes Outside The Pants Video

...bugger now I owe you a beer ...bastard (down under that is a term of endearment)


NOW GET A REAL JOB AND WEAR YOUR UNDERPANTS INSIDE YOUR TROUSERS ...er .....HOMO!!!

Date: 2008/06/18 20:56:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2008,04:52)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 18 2008,16:55)
Unplug your irony meters for this gem from tribune7.    
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I don’t think anybody here objects to criticism of ID or attempts to refute it.

Wow.

yeah wow.

They are having a real crisis of navel gazing over there at the moment.

Billy's getting his ass kicked.

Date: 2008/06/18 21:14:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2008,04:56)
I love when I hear creationist nuts theorize that thousands of scientists don't really believe what they say, they just submit to peer pressure. Anybody who says that hasn't know many scientists.

Absolutely.
They are so isolated in
Billy's Little Love Shack Vise for the Poor Me Bubble Babies™

they mistake whacking each other with virtual wet lettuce for the prize fighter mentality of science which is a bare knuckle knock down drag em out fight to the finish.
It is not a spectator sport.
Only the best ideas survive.

YES YES I KNOW THAT HOMO!

OUR SPECTATORS HERE ARE JUST WIMPS I KNOW THAT.

NO MATTER HOW MUCH BACK BONERS I GIVE THEM THEY ARE ALL HOPELESS WIMPS AND WOULDN'T LAST ONE ROUND IN THE REAL WORLD.

BILLY HISSELF SAID I COULD GET ME SOME REAL MEN WITH BIG HAIRY CHESTS AND TRUCKS ARRF ARRF

BUT HISSELF SAID THEY HAD TO HAVE PHD'S IN SCIENCE!!!

FUCK THIS IS A FRIGGN WAR I TOLD HIM.

FUCK THE PHD'S I SAID

WE NEED SOME GOOD OLD FASHIONED BEATINGS AND BLOODY NOSES ISN'T THAT WHAT SCIENTISTS RESPECT I SAID?

HISSELF SAID YOU GOT THE BLOG FOR THAT.

GEEZ BILLY NEEDS TO GET A BACKBONE. I WANT BLOOD. dt

Date: 2008/06/18 23:10:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ June 19 2008,06:35)
The fun continues.  When Francis Beckwith observes that
 
Quote
At the end of the day, ID advocates do themselves no favors by hurling insults at people like Miller and Collins. For they are more accomplished, more successful, and more well-respected than any ID advocate anywhere. That’s harsh, I know. But it’s the truth.

Dave counters:
 
Quote
You need to get out more. George W. Bush is an ID advocate and he’s arguably the most powerful man in the world. Collins and Miller together don’t amount to a pimple on his butt. I know it’s harsh but scientists and academics in general don’t get a lot of respect outside their sheltered world. Heck, even Ann Coulter makes them look insignificant by each and every metric you named.

You should get out more often, Dave.  Society hearts scientists.  According to a 2003 Harris Interactive Poll,  
 
Quote
Americans see scientists, firemen, doctors, teachers and nurses as the professions and occupations which have the most prestige. At the other end of the spectrum, the occupations which are seen as having the least prestige are real estate agents, stockbrokers, actors, bankers and accountants.

Only three occupations are perceived to have "very great" prestige by more than half of all adults; these are scientists (57%), firemen (55%) and doctors (52%). They are followed by four professions which are perceived to have "very great" prestige by more than 40% but less than 50% - teachers (49%), nurses (47%), military officers (46%) and police officers (42%).
 2006 data are here.

NO, YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE HOMO!!

GWD DOESN'T JUST DO FUCKING BEND OVER I'LL INVADE YOUR WHOLE COUNTRY, YOU DIPSHIT.

HE IS THIS COUNTRY

WE DON'T NEED NO DEMOCRACY OF IDEAS AND MAY THE BEST ONE WIN. ID WILL WIN WHEN WE PURGE THE COURTS AND PURGE YOU TOO HOMO.

GWD KNOWS FAR MORE THAN ANY SCIENTIST, HE IS A FRIGGN GENIUS HE MAKES ME LOOK SMART...oh wait.

ANYWAY PURGINGS ARE MY FAV. FORM OF SCIENCE. I HAVE A PERFECT RECORD HERE AT UD (WHICH I DO GO OUT FROM ONCE IN A WHILE TO SHOP FOR MUSHROOMS THATS BECAUSE THE MUSHROOM LAB IS SHUTDOWN NOW). NOBODY CAN GET PAST MY IRON FIST. EVEN THE ONES TRAPED INSIDE UD. I CAN CHECK OUT BUT NEVER LEAVE.

YOU SEE. I CAN TELL STRAIGHT AWAY WHEN SOMEONE IS AN ATHEIST OR EVEN A TE. THAT MEANS MY BONER IS IN MY BACK. dt

Date: 2008/06/18 23:39:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Texas Teach @ June 19 2008,07:33)
I wonder how much prestige there is for megalomanical blog czars?

I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT EVEN LEAVING MY BLOG, HOMO!

JUST TRY POSTING HERE AT UD... dt

Date: 2008/06/19 00:26:40, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 19 2008,08:02)
The truly wonderful thing about Dembski's anti-TE jihad is how it seems to be highlighting even more than usual the underlying loser mentality of ID and just how remote they are from anything resembling science.


So that's what welfare queens looked like 2000 years ago?

Date: 2008/06/19 00:41:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 19 2008,08:21)
DaveTard:    
Quote
George W. Bush is an ID advocate and he’s arguably the most powerful man in the world.

Reality:  
Quote
US President George W Bush and his Pakistan counterpart Pervez Musharraf are regarded as most untrustworthy leaders in an opinion poll.

New York, June 17 : US President George W Bush and his Pakistan counterpart Pervez Musharraf are regarded as most untrustworthy leaders in an opinion poll.

Musharraf fared worst in the poll. Only in China, 37 percent of the people felt that he instilled confidence as a leader, outweighing 30 percent people's opinion, a poll conducted by Worldpublicopinion.org found.

Nigeria remained divided over the Pakistani leader and the other 18 nations gave negative reactions for him in a poll conducted in 20 countries including India.

Bush got positive ratings only from India and Nigeria while respondents in Thailand shared mixed views. People from 16 of the 20 countries gave thumbs down to the US President. He also received the highest average percentage of negative ratings (67 percent).

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was not far behind the two. He got negative ratings in 13 nations. Only three nations were slightly positive while one was divided.

Yeah and come November it will be George W. Who?

Date: 2008/06/19 00:48:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 19 2008,07:12)
 
Quote (olegt @ June 18 2008,20:35)
Dave counters:
     
Quote
You need to get out more. George W. Bush is an ID advocate and he’s arguably the most powerful man in the world. Collins and Miller together don’t amount to a pimple on his butt. I know it’s harsh but scientists and academics in general don’t get a lot of respect outside their sheltered world. Heck, even Ann Coulter makes them look insignificant by each and every metric you named.

DaveTard measures 'success' in science by what George Bush and Ann Coulter believe. Words fail me.

Well he is an auto-diktat so his success doesn't need to be measured.

AND WORDS NEVER FAIL ME, HOMO!!! dt

Date: 2008/06/19 01:52:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 19 2008,09:22)
For those of you who have missed it, over at The Panda's Thumb, Reed Cartwright has intelligently designed DaveScot:
   
Quote
Howling Nightmare, Alouatta pandas, is a flying carnivore covered in hard armor and known for its powerful howls and painful bites. It typically hunts at night, ambushing large, slow herbivores while they sleep. A single pair can consume five thousand times their body weight during a breeding season to feed their ravenous brood. Although this secretive creature is rarely seen, its kills litter the landscape, while its frightening howls remind you that it is never far away.

I think that's a pretty good metaphor for Dave's activities.

YEAH THAT'S RIGHT HOMOS.

IF I EVER BREED MY SUPER BRAIN INTO A VICIOUS INSATIABLE FLYING MACHINE PREYING ON MY ENEMIES LIKE SOME RAVENOUS GHOUL I WON'T CALL IT ALOTTA PANDAS I'LL CALL IT TYRANNO-PSITTACO MEGA-EGO HA HA HA I KILL ME SOMETIMES dt

Date: 2008/06/19 02:06:29, Link
Author: k.e..
That sounds almost as foul as this stuff...

Quote
Ever heard of "Steam" ?
by smokerscully1 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:15 pm

Just saw something neat here on the boob tube --Discovery channel--
some guy is spending some time with a tribe of natives somewhere in Papua New Guinea. These people have only recently been in contact with white missionarys and are trying very hard to keep to their original subsistance lifestyle. Besides hunting for wild pigs and harvesting Sago Palm these natives show this guy how they make "steam". It showed the Natives boiling wine they made from Palm juice in an old outboard motor gas can--wood fire underneath and just a small piece of some kinda coiled pipe for a condenser. Looks like it tastes pretty bad but was prolly very strong. The commentator asks the chief how long they have been distilling "steam" like it was some kinda ancient custom or something. The chief tells the guy one of their young men showed them how to do it 2 years ago when he came home to visit after he had been away at school.

Date: 2008/06/19 07:09:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 19 2008,14:51)
More scordova in the morning. Sal gets insulted    
Quote
At issue with Ken Miller specifically is he gets on TV and labels people like myself and my associastes as anti-science welfare queens. I’m a science student at Johns Hopkins. I have pro-ID friends who are PhD candidates in molecular genetics at top notch schools, and who are fearful of their career because they are systematically being labelled as dangers to the scientific establishment….

I think it is time for ERV to appear on the Colbert Report. Then we could hear some real insults, and all of them are richly deserved.

DAMN RIGHT HOMO!!

I'LL GIVE YOU A RICHLY DESERVED INSULT RIGHT NOW.

GWB IS AN ID SUPPORTER! SUCK ON THAT HOMO dt

Date: 2008/06/19 07:45:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (dogdidit @ June 19 2008,15:40)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2008,23:12)
   
Quote (olegt @ June 18 2008,20:35)
Dave counters:
       
Quote
You need to get out more. George W. Bush is an ID advocate and he’s arguably the most powerful man in the world. Collins and Miller together don’t amount to a pimple on his butt. I know it’s harsh but scientists and academics in general don’t get a lot of respect outside their sheltered world. Heck, even Ann Coulter makes them look insignificant by each and every metric you named.

DaveTard measures 'success' in science by what George Bush and Ann Coulter believe. Words fail me.

DaveTard's life seems to be defined by man-crushes on higher echelon alpha males: Michael Dell, William Dembski, Craig Venter, George Bush, and Ann Coulter.

OK HOMO, NOW I'M GOING TO KISS YOU. dy

Date: 2008/06/19 08:58:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ June 19 2008,16:22)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 19 2008,05:45)
DaveTard seyz
     
Quote
For one thing ID explains how symbolic information came to be used in the machinery of life.

How? ID explains how? Does it indeed?

But Sal seyz
     
Quote
You asked how, ID does not answer how….

So who's right?
DaveTard

Its a Tard/Off! This is so exciting that I had to tell my moonspeaking friends.

hmmmmm

everyone worked out a long time ago that ID can be any friggn' thing you want, just like god.

All you have to do is mention some majic words.

These of course were provided by Behe and El Bill, in the form of an acronym.

Preferably one that has the hip ring of a tired TV show that only losers watched and could be pseudo-ed into a bird seed suet cake of any flavor.

Twits from all over caused a flurry feeding on the dripping*.

Super Sal can't even untangle one of Dembski's deep obscures, he suffers of course from spinelessness.

The rest blindly follow chanting the meme, bashing their bibles on their skulls while they invade Europa.

ID = Identity Politics for the dull and stupid.
CSI = Who really gives a fuck, could be beauty could be nuke the bastards.
IC= I see tarot cards in the witness box and ass trology is cloud braking.

for moon speakers....dripping=suet=animal fat=super size grease=big mac religion=instant gratification for lard asses=clogged fundy brain

Date: 2008/06/19 21:17:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (JohnW @ June 19 2008,20:02)
Quote (Maya @ June 19 2008,05:17)
DaveScot:
 
Quote
I CAN prove that the genetic code is structured almost exactly like Morse code. There is nothing in the natural world except for DNA that is like Morse code. Why? Because both were designed by intelligent agents. Only intelligent agents create abstraction layers (symbols or tokens which represent something else).

Only semi-intelligent agents create circular arguments.  (And I'd love to see the proof that DNA is isomorphic to Morse code.)

-..  .-  ...-  .  ...  -.-.  ---  -    ..  ...    .-    .-.  .-  ...-  ..  -.  --.    ..-.  ..-  -.-.  -.-  .--  ..  -

HA FUCKING HA.

I AM NOT REPEAT NOT A RAVING FUCKWIT dt

although dt should have already got that
.....right dave?
Now repeat after me

Morse code (or any other code ....you fuckwit) can't have babies.

Now go off and play with the other tards there's a good boy

Date: 2008/06/19 21:56:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 19 2008,20:52)
I just wonder how anyone thinks a change in the value of a parameter can be construed as a loss of information.

I suppose they are always thinking in terms of The Fall, so any change is a degradation.

What a cruddy metaphor by which to organize your worldview.

You got it.

They are literally crazy.

Their reality or world view doesn't match actual life.

The schizophrenic voices of their parent’s reality denying brainwashing overwhelms their senses. They do not believe what they see.

It's called "Falling into the trap the truly stupid can't miss".

Shannon Information != knowledge.

Calling a pattern change in DNA a loss or gain of information, when information is defined by the cridiots as god's perfect work, is wishful thinking, tautological navel gazing aka the circular argument.

But hey you don't have to believe me go to those atheist bastards running Glaxo Kline Smith and tell them you have a new way to fix cancer.

Yup ......all we have to do is find Adam's DNA and bingo problem solved.

You might want to make sure they've taken you to lunch first ........if you want a free one.

Why do various sects and cults create a plainly ridiculous world view for their followers?

It's simple, by creating a world view that invites ridicule and mental torment from those outside the group and then when it is countered by effective propaganda within the group that will create cohesion and solidarity within the group. This is the basis of all religion.

However if you don't buy the song, you're out!

Goebbels understood this perfectly and he got all his ideas from religion and Dembski cynically uses exactly the same method to further his own oedipal urgings.

They understand you can create a common enemy just with words.

They also understand the followers would become martyrs for the cause.

Of course for that to succeed any system that tests the truth of that propaganda must be crushed.

"Darwinism" aka the scientific method is that threat to Obscurantists like Sal Dembski

The story is as old as mankind.

Date: 2008/06/19 22:00:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (DiEb @ June 19 2008,23:38)
MorseDeTranslator :D

HA ME AND DAVE DON'T NEED THAT!

Date: 2008/06/19 22:46:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ June 20 2008,05:41)
Salvador has plans to rewrite Maxwell's equations.  Darwinism will be toast and the Earth will be young again.  

In other news, God used electricity to make stars and galaxies.  No word on the size of his utility bill.  

Linky.

Sal just sees reality as a rhetorical word game he would debate the color of the sky is green until the clouds come home.

The whole trick of religion is to devalue any test for truth to the point of complete idiocy.

Once the acolyte is thus innoculted from reality they are mere vegitables to be milked :> for the cause.

I think I might start my own religion and do a Ken Moon Dembski.

Think of all the benefits, all the drugs and sex you want paid for by the congregation and defended by the most powerful man on earth.

Date: 2008/06/20 01:23:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Is there a thread here with all those?

He forgot:
Posting a list of (Baylor?) Academics home phone numbers when he had his staff cafeteria rights revoked.

Welching on a bottle of single malt scotch bet.

Saying he has two PhD's when one is just a Pastor's license.

Admits ID is propaganda and not worth peer review by his actions and deeds.

Admits ID can only be taught as science by political subversion and not able to stand scientific peer review by his actions and deeds.

Admits ID earns him cash (thank you very much)regardless of its veracity. The true mark of conman if ever there was one. He might as well be selling magic healing crystals, all purchases final don't come back if it doesn't work sucker.

Date: 2008/06/20 01:52:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ June 20 2008,09:22)
Oh my! Dr Dr Bill is sponsoring the Real Designers:
   
Quote

Unraveling these crop circles constitutes a design inference that doesn’t just tell us that something was designed but also tells us something about the knowledge of the designer:


To be fair, WAD isn't directly saying that crop circles are made by aliens, nor that they are made by Homo sapiens pranksterius. And it does look cool.


The only thing unraveling is Demski's brain.

The poor man has migrated from navel gazing to sticking his head firmly where the sun don't shine.

Farrrrk 'it/they/them' is farm art, great scott you might as well put up the 30,000 year old Chauvet cave paintings as proof of god or 40,000 year old Upper Paleolithic stone tools since both were the result of work done by people.

Let's hope he doesn't ever wake up.

Here he is in full projection mode.

 
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Given the mental contortions required to remain a Christian once one embraces Darwin, Giberson is loathe to admit that Darwin is passe and the mental contortions were unnecessary. Hence the need to “save Darwin,” for in doing so Giberson saves his own intellectual and spiritual credibility.


Let me fix that for you Bill

 
Quote
Given the mental contortions required to remain a Christian once one embraces Darwin Literal Bible reading, Giberson Dembski is loathe to admit that Darwin Literal Bible reading is passe and the mental contortions were unnecessary. Hence the need to “save Darwin,” "save the Bible"  for in doing so Giberson Dembski saves his own intellectual and spiritual credibility.


Amen to that Dembski, you twit.

Date: 2008/06/20 01:57:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jupiter @ June 20 2008,09:23)
Quote (Doc Bill @ June 16 2008,17:12)
When I was a wee lad, brand spanking new to the forums at KCFS,

You had spanking? Luxury!

(Also... do you still? Is there a waiting list?)

OT: FTK pissed away every opportunity she's ever had to do anything other than get married and give birth--and yet she feels entitled to pass judgment on the cumulative work of hundreds of thousands of people who've actually done something with their education.

She thinks that if she hadn't guzzled all that purple jesus punch, then she'd know every bit as much as those dorks who actually showed up for class. She's just as smart as them, dammit!

....And hogged all the spankings to herself.

Date: 2008/06/20 02:00:11, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 20 2008,08:51)
Weds - we'll go somewhere nice. I'll have the yet prepped for the Maldives, maybe.

YOU BETTER NOT HOMO! I WANT ALL THE INDIAN OCEAN TO MYSELF. ANYWAY I'M FLYING  OVER IT NEXT SUNDAY :P

Date: 2008/06/20 04:58:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ June 20 2008,11:13)
Tribune7:      
Quote
The Cambrian Explosion contradicts the Darwinian model but ID isn’t really the tool that would be used to explain it.

Linky

A few years back, Paul Nelson said that ID is a useful tool in the researcher's toolbox. How wonderful. He then went on to explain how "ID illuminates homology". The audience listened, but heard only the usual creationist litany on how darwinism fails at explaining homology. No insight on how ID explains it.

Which leads to the inevitable question: How the hell can ID be better science than "darwinism" if it doesn't even attempt to explain the things - real phenomena in nature - "darwinism" attemps to explain?

"darwinism" = doubleplusgood Orwelian Newspeak Vocab. A for the scientific method

"ID"= Mr. Goodbucks god

It's all part of their plan

It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words: from Orwell's 1984

The principles of newspeak

Date: 2008/06/20 05:09:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ June 20 2008,10:37)
Quote (jupiter @ June 20 2008,07:23)
Quote (Doc Bill @ June 16 2008,17:12)
When I was a wee lad, brand spanking new to the forums at KCFS,

You had spanking? Luxury!

(Also... do you still? Is there a waiting list?)

OT: FTK pissed away every opportunity she's ever had to do anything other than get married and give birth--and yet she feels entitled to pass judgment on the cumulative work of hundreds of thousands of people who've actually done something with their education.

She thinks that if she hadn't guzzled all that purple jesus punch, then she'd know every bit as much as those dorks who actually showed up for class. She's just as smart as them, dammit!

It's the plaintive cry of the perpetually uneducated, unintelligent and bitterly envious and insecure:

"My ignorance is as good as your knowledge."

This streak of anti-intellectualism, anti-reason, anti-science has a deep psychological root.

Louis

P.S. The problem is that the "chip on the shoulder" cannot be reasoned with. The false equation made by chip possessors between "I know more about subject X than you because I've done the hard work to know it" and "I'm better than you bow before me, mwah ha haaaa" is a product of their insecurity. False modesty and some people's vengeful geekery aside, cries of "elitism" and "arrogance" are usually the cries of someone's self-bruised ego.

Keep in mind all that she wants is that her kids get into heaven.

Take that away and life would be meaningless and the only option left would be an abandonment to pure carnal pleasure, which of course would be heaven on earth for her.

It's better to suppress herself from worldly knowledge and remain a half born person since that is what her little sect demands than to take the risk and discover that Mary was not god's mother.

Date: 2008/06/20 09:29:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2008,17:23)
I was going to do the July 13 Triathlon in Raleigh but I'm not quite where I need to be with the training. It would take me about 2 hrs. If I wait til August I should be down around 1hr 45 mins.

YEAH AND IF YOU WAIT 'TILL DECEMBER IT WILL BE 3 HRS, HOMO!

Date: 2008/06/20 09:36:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 20 2008,14:27)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 20 2008,02:52)
Farrrrk 'it/they/them' is farm art, great scott you might as well put up the 30,000 year old Chauvet cave paintings as proof of god or 40,000 year old Upper Paleolithic stone tools since both were the result of work done by people.

Fer Chrissakes keep your voice down or BarryA is gonna wake up and post about his grandfather's arrowhead collection again.

HIS GRANDAD'S FORESKIN COLLECTION?

SO HE'S ONE OF THE LOST TRIBES?

Date: 2008/06/20 09:41:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 20 2008,17:33)
TEH PARASITIC UNDERSTANINGS OF CREATION IS NOW AVAILABLE!!!!!11111one:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....ailable

I smell "Turd Sandwhich (sic)"

bWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Quote
This is the first book from my own imprint, Erasmus Press (www.erasmuspress.net). The plan is to publish books, journals, and curriculum materials through it — despise not the day of small beginnings! Here is the cover illustration. Further down is the preface.



WITH MY OWN REVIEWS, HOMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill von Demski-sovich

Hey 'rasmus you got a deal with the "GREAT DECIEVER" have you sold yur hairy ass?


yeah yeah deny all you want, HOMO!!!

Date: 2008/06/20 09:42:53, Link
Author: k.e..
beaten to the punch...again

Date: 2008/06/20 09:44:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 20 2008,15:56)
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6000?4.5 billion


Crap. My character map lied. Where's the approximately equal button?

= HOMO

Date: 2008/06/20 09:46:38, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 20 2008,17:43)
that bastard.  i think he has been jealous since i whupped him* at world on Teh Web.

*at least, I thought it might be him.  there can't be that many people willing to make such insane presuppositional arguments and defend them with Teh Flair we have come to expect from street melting friday theater-downs.  so don't piss on my parade pardner, in MY obscurantist nonreferential revisionist narrative it was him, he was wearing the sweater, and rich was drinking single malt scotch filtered through WAD's garters.

NTCH,
HOMO!!

Date: 2008/06/20 09:59:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 20 2008,17:53)
Quote
A new study by Princeton University researchers shows for the first time that bacteria don’t just react to changes in their surroundings — they anticipate and prepare for them.


Quote
How many times have we noticed evidence of changes that have occurred faster than what should be capable of RV+NS (non-foresighted mechanisms)?


I give up.

DON'T GIVE UP GET EVEN.

RIGHT A BOOK WITH YOUR OWN PRESS AND YOU TOO CAN BE LIKE JOHN A DAVISON

...HOMELESS WITH A BROADBAND CONNECTION.

Date: 2008/06/20 10:00:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 20 2008,17:57)
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 20 2008,09:53)
 
Quote
A new study by Princeton University researchers shows for the first time that bacteria don’t just react to changes in their surroundings — they anticipate and prepare for them.


 
Quote
How many times have we noticed evidence of changes that have occurred faster than what should be capable of RV+NS (non-foresighted mechanisms)?


I give up.

MY WIFE HAS SUBSCRIBED TO BACTERIAL FORTEAN TIMES.

YOUR WIFES ALL ARE BACTERIAL

Date: 2008/06/20 10:06:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,17:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

YOUR ALWAYS PROMISING ONLINE SEX, WITH RICH SOUNDS.

BUT HEY IT'S A FREE WORLD, FUN INCLUDED.

WHO THE FUCK IS BRUCE? i'M JEALOUS

Date: 2008/06/20 10:09:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 20 2008,18:04)
Patrick, your integrity is somewhat lacking.

? is that a nice way of saying ...

Patrick .....YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE DICK?

Date: 2008/06/20 10:18:47, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 20 2008,18:13)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 20 2008,10:09)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 20 2008,18:04)
Patrick, your integrity is somewhat lacking.

? is that a nice way of saying ...

Patrick .....YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE DICK?

A most emphatic YES!

ok just checking .......HOMO!

Date: 2008/06/20 10:31:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Bing @ June 20 2008,18:18)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 20 2008,09:37)
From DrDrD.    
Quote
This is the first book from my own imprint, Erasmus Press (www.erasmuspress.net).

Why did the Dr² have to start his own press?  Has he become too wingnutty even for Regnery?

ST. BILL IS FLYING ....HEAR THAT?

HE WILL BRING US ALL RAPTURE IN OUR OWN LIFETIMES WITHOUT ARSE-IN-LICK 'N KOOL AID.

BILL BILL BILL PLEASE LET ME MAKE YOU COFFEE IN MY FAV. CUP.

ALSO BILL PSE PSE PSE LET ME BE YOUR NEW BLOG ZAR FR UR NEW PRESS.

PLEASE I LOVE U HNY. dX

Date: 2008/06/20 10:36:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 20 2008,18:34)
no douchetard I got dibs specially since he's a usin mah handle.

I will be Blog Emperor!  With no clothes.  Densey you have to conference call in for meetings don't show up at my office there are enough throat bearded half shaven dog walking backwards asses here already.

TRUST YOU TO RAIN ON MY PARADE!

Date: 2008/06/20 10:42:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 20 2008,18:35)
Quote
I hate to mention it again but simple things like the twin nested hierarchy are clear indications, i.e. uncontroversial observable facts that rely on no "special paradigmatic interpretation" at all.

It strikes me that when humans do genetic engineering they tend to produce the kind of "out of hierarchy" artifacts that cdesign proponentsists would love to find in untampered organisms.

TAMPER WITH MY ORGASMS WILL YOU?

I DON'T GIVE 'RASMUSES HAIRY ASS WHAT YOU DO WITH GENERIC DNA FONDLING, BUT MY SEX LIFE IS NOT UP FOR GRABS (UNLESS IT'S WELL WEST OF THE MALDIVES AND EAST OF ZIMBABWE)

Date: 2008/06/20 10:58:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 20 2008,18:51)
But is it north or south of the equator?

South for change, but not by much.

However, well and zulu west of the Wallace line.

So I expect a lot of monkey-ing aound :)

Date: 2008/06/20 22:55:35, Link
Author: k.e..
[quote=stevestory,June 21 2008,06:24]
Quote (tsig @ June 20 2008,22:50)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 19 2008,22:46)
 
Quote (olegt @ June 20 2008,05:41)

Think of all the benefits, all the drugs and sex you want paid for by the congregation and defended by the most powerful man on earth.

Then you'd have to put up with people like Sal.

I think I was a teenager when I first espoused that 'cult leader' was the best job in the world. (It helps to know that I'm from Lake City, Florida, where the End Timers' cult relocated). Yeah, you've got all the free cash, and free sex with the teenagers, but the fact that you've got to be in character 18 hrs per day is a real downside. And dealing with your Salvador types without blowing a gasket...that takes a special mindset.

Dembski seems to find being in character quite easy

.....oh wait..... he doesn't have a squadron of angels playing with his joystick...


Sal would be easy all you have to say is



Dear Leader:hey sal i've got a great new project for you

Sal: yeah wot is it?

Dear Leader:i want you to re-write Newton's laws of motion to include teh designer
Sal:which designer?
Dear Leader:my designer you twit
Sal:oh ok
Dear Leader:then when you've done that fix up Eienstien's Theory of Relatvity
Sal:no probs. can i borrow your calculator?
Dear Leader:what the fuck do you need a calculator for them's the devils tools
Sal:oh right, wot about a pensil?
Dear Leader:fuck off and get to it.
Sal: YES SIR!

Date: 2008/06/21 05:43:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:34)
Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2008,23:24)
I think I was a teenager when I first espoused that 'cult leader' was the best job in the world. (It helps to know that I'm from Lake City, Florida, where the End Timers' cult relocated). Yeah, you've got all the free cash, and free sex with the teenagers, but the fact that you've got to be in character 18 hrs per day is a real downside. And dealing with your Salvador types without blowing a gasket...that takes a special mindset.

I seem to recall Heinlein making a similar observation.

SO DID JESUS, HOMO!

How do you want us to Pray O Lord?

To which Jay Big said

1. don't call me O Lord.
2. IDGAF how you pray.

Date: 2008/06/21 07:22:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:58)
Quote (k.e.. @ June 21 2008,06:43)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:34)
   
Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2008,23:24)
I think I was a teenager when I first espoused that 'cult leader' was the best job in the world. (It helps to know that I'm from Lake City, Florida, where the End Timers' cult relocated). Yeah, you've got all the free cash, and free sex with the teenagers, but the fact that you've got to be in character 18 hrs per day is a real downside. And dealing with your Salvador types without blowing a gasket...that takes a special mindset.

I seem to recall Heinlein making a similar observation.

SO DID JESUS, HOMO!

How do you want us to Pray O Lord?

To which Jay Big said

1. don't call me O Lord.
2. IDGAF how you pray.

Perhaps, but Heinlein said it with rocketships and sex.

Way cooler than Jesus.

HA, YOU'RE SAYING ROCKET SHIPS ARE SEXIER THAN A MAN IN A DRESS AND FUCK ME SANDALS?

GET A JOB HOMO.

Date: 2008/06/21 07:42:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:44)
 
Quote (keiths @ June 21 2008,02:17)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
     
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

Thanks keiths.

Yeah, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is there, Randi's there, all the Skepchicks, the BadAstronomer, Adam Savage, Shermer, PZ...

It's quite a guest list.  I really wanted to go.

TAM looks like it might be better than drugs.

I found this on TAM guest rapper Greydon Square's myspace page



and this ...i love it so

Date: 2008/06/21 21:23:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 22 2008,01:57)
Patrick continues to have foresight:

Quote
Old saying, but there are many ways to skin a cat. Meaning that there are many ways to meet a designed end goal. This end goal need not be very specific and narrow (one and only one option in a search space of infinite). This end goal in search space can be generalized and thus have many varied options/implementations that fulfill the end goal. These implementations sometimes may appear odd, but subjective aesthetic considerations do not take away from the objective real design.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-291183


What exactly forces one to assume that evolution is about finding a solution or reaching a goal? I mean, what about the poor schmuck species that didn't reach their goal and went extinct? Are Lotto winners really better at anticipating the future?

Lenny's "Teaxs Sharp Shooter" ....shoot some holes in the side of barn. Then walk over and draw bulls eyes around them.

Date: 2008/06/22 07:23:00, Link
Author: k.e..
OH IT'S TARDEN madHATERBOX's BIRTHDAY ALRIGHT!

I sent a crack Darwinist reporter to his mothers house and asked her how she felt about Tarden and his 72nd Birthday.

She replied "You know that guy?"

He said "Well, no actually"

She said "Ok but you should know he wasn't born, he was expelled"

He said "Do tell?"

She said "What's there to know? There was a donkey and some gin...a lot of gin"

He said "A FUCKING DONKEY?"

She said "What time is it?"

He said "I don't know"

She said "Care for some gin?"

He said " ....um yeah....ok"

That reporter is now in rehab.... thanks to Tarden.... HOMOS!

Date: 2008/06/22 07:30:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 22 2008,13:48)
I think the Dr Dr has regressed to a 15 year old fundie state
 
Quote

HERE’S MY EMAIL:

Please support the recent academic freedom legislation allowing evidence for and AGAINST evolution to be taught. No scientific theory is so good that it only has strengths, nor does it help students to be given the impression that evolution is a slam-dunk when the theory has lots and lots of holes. The materialism that supports evolution is as ideological as any religious dogma that resists it. –WmAD


That sure reads like a professor wrote it.

Tardage

WHO ARE YOU CALLING A 15 YEAR OLD. HOMO!

I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW WHEN MY SAT WAS TESTED AT 22 YEARS OLD IT WAS THE SAME AS A 15 YEAR OLD'S WITH AN IQ OF 143.

TAHT MEANS THAT IF I WAS 22 IT WOULD BE LESS THAN GWB'S.

SO BE CAREFUL WHO YOU ARE CALLING STUPID. dt.

Date: 2008/06/22 19:40:38, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 23 2008,03:04)
[quote=tsig,June 22 2008,19:45]
Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2008,22:24)
Quote (tsig @ June 20 2008,22:50)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ June 19 2008,22:46)
   
Quote (olegt @ June 20 2008,05:41)

Think of all the benefits, all the drugs and sex you want paid for by the congregation and defended by the most powerful man on earth.

Then you'd have to put up with people like Sal.

I think I was a teenager when I first espoused that 'cult leader' was the best job in the world. (It helps to know that I'm from Lake City, Florida, where the End Timers' cult relocated). Yeah, you've got all the free cash, and free sex with the teenagers, but the fact that you've got to be in character 18 hrs per day is a real downside. And dealing with your Salvador types without blowing a gasket...that takes a special mindset.

I once started my own church but I discovered that I didn't like being around people who believed in me.

I often threaten to start my own church.  I even have a name picked out already, very Catholic:

Church of the Kneeling Virgin

YOU BETTER BE QUICK HOMO.

BECAUSE WITH TAX FREE STATUS I COULD SELL SHARES IN THAT AND BE IN A NICE BIG JET WITH RAPTURE SPA'S AND AN INDOOR GOLF COURSE FASTER THAN YOU CAN SAY HAIL MARY.

Date: 2008/06/23 20:56:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 23 2008,20:50)
Just wanted to quote DS' latest in full before he sobers up and fixes it
 
Quote


tragicmishap

ID is as ready as chance & necessity. Maybe more. We can at least prove that intelligent agents can cause complex specified information to appear where none existed before.

Look at it like a murder case where we need to show means and opportunity.

Chance & necessity - we can show opportunity but not means. In other words, we can place the alleded perpetrator at the scene of the crime but we can’t prove it had the means to commit the crime.

Intelligent design - we can means but not opportunity. In other words, we can show that intelligent designers can cause highly improbable specified changes to heritable genetic material but we can’t prove the perpetrator was at the scene of the crime.

As far as I’m concerned that puts chance & necessity and intelligent design on equal footing. Preferring one over the other is a matter of dogma not science.

Plus the assertion that for a scientific theory to be falsified requires a replacement theory is a dog that doesn’t hunt. That is not part of any philosophy of science that I ever heard of. It’s a lame assertion made by chance worshippers and nothing more.


Tard
How deluded is DS? Very

wow!!!

This guy says it far more eloquently than me.

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.......ID is often referred to as Creationism light. In fact it's more Creationism in drag. Though its proponents claim scientific neutrality, they are usually overtly religious people affiliated with overtly religious institutions. They have written essays and books about why ID is science. And yet when all the sophistry is boiled down, the theory amounts to "living things are complicated. Some-one must have made them."


John Moore, from The National Pest, reviews Expelled:

Dave Tard is a deeply insecure boy, he knows that if he makes a pact with his "god" ....who happens to be just like him, a dishonest creep but.... oh ....so ..nice... to..true..believers then there is a chance .....NO necessity of him being saved from all his bastardry.

The Question Beggers circular arguement

(I BELIEVE THERE MUST BE A GOD SO DISPARAGE THE FACTS TO FIT MY ASSUMPTION)

..will never let the truly deluded down...even when they are logically wrong.

Dave Tard's birds of a feather constantly remind him he is truly truly truly a nice nice nice guy.

EXCEPT WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR ....HOMO'S dt.

all gods are a projection dt. you are just on the edge of your pathetic reality horizon...careful you don't fall off it. Please come back with some of your lame old tard before you lose your mind.

Date: 2008/06/23 21:58:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
ID is as ready as chance & necessity. Maybe more. We can at least prove that intelligent agents can cause complex specified information to appear where none existed before.


So what about that burglar in Germany who left his cell phone at the house he broke into then went back and asked the owner for it back or the equally intelligent crim who was handcuffed by police who had just arrested him but managed to free himself then ran into a police station asking for them to be removed?
OK most crims aren't that stupid but they can't break the law of cause and effect...<snicker>

Dave you have to acknowledge equating a crime scene with some plainly stupid dishonest characters who hope to escape detection doesn't show a great deal of character for you or your 'god' or your projected version of him. Your god must be a despicable character all he had to do was come clean and put a monolith in DNA.

INDEED GOD IS THE WORLDS BESTEST MASTER CRIMINAL HE GOT AWAY WITH THE CRIME OF THE UNIVERSE and WE CAN'T PROVE HE DID IT even though THE EVIDENCE IS LIFE ITSELF. dt

Life is life that's all there is to it. Gods are completely optional and mere human delusions.

   
Quote
Look at it like a murder case where we need to show means and opportunity.


.....plus the real and actual scene ..the real and actual time of day...the  real and actual murder weapon..the real and actual manufacturer of the weapon...the real and actual trajectory of the bullet/knife/hammer...the real and actual DEAD VICTIM... the real and actual blood...EVIDENCE

   
Quote
Chance & necessity - we can show opportunity but not means. In other words, we can place the alleded perpetrator at the scene of the crime but we can’t prove it had the means to commit the crime.


FUCK MY BRAIN JUST LOOPED MOBIUS BACK -dt

....seriously dt get a hold of yourself you just changed hands.

   
Quote
Intelligent design - we can means but not opportunity. In other words, we can show that intelligent designers can cause highly improbable specified changes to heritable genetic material but we can’t prove the perpetrator was at the scene of the crime.


EVIDENCE ? WE DON'T NEED NO EVIDENCE! dt

   
Quote
As far as I’m concerned that puts chance & necessity and intelligent design on equal footing. Preferring one over the other is a matter of dogma not science.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DOGMA + MOBIUS = CREATIONISM/ID=GOD EXISTS ......SO GODDITIT dt

   
Quote
Plus the assertion that for a scientific theory to be falsified requires a replacement theory is a dog that doesn’t hunt. That is not part of any philosophy of science that I ever heard of. It’s a lame assertion made by chance worshippers and nothing more.


OOOOPS PROJECTION AGAIN .....ID'S LAZY DOG LAME ASSERTION CAN'T REPLACE THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD SO WE CALL BILL'S ANGELS (GOP APPARATCHIKS) TO GIVE US A DIRECT LINE TO DOG & GWB dt

Date: 2008/06/23 23:32:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,07:17)
Quote (EyeNoU @ June 23 2008,21:41)
FtK, sending you there would be like throwing a rabbit into a briar patch......

alcoholic to the brewery more like..


Ps I did duns this on my iPhones. Woot!!!

YEAH AND IT WAS INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED JUST LIKE MUD TO MAN, HOMO!dt

Date: 2008/06/26 07:22:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 25 2008,22:48)
There is always a special pleasure in watching an IQ blowhard make a fool out of himself on the subject of IQ:
       
Quote
DaveScot
06/25/2008
1:06 pm

Joel

IQ for adults is done by what’s called “deviation IQ” as opposed to children which is “ratio IQ”. Ratio IQ is mental age/physical age. Thus 6 year old kid who scores as well as an average 12-year old on any given test has an IQ of 200. For an adult the test score (it’s often the SAT test which is used these days for IQs below about 175) is compared to other adult scores on the same test and the deviation from the average score is translated into an IQ score. The SAT can’t measure higher than a certain level because people who are that smart or smarter get perfect scores on it! Specially designed tests must be administered to very, very high IQ people.

The last formal IQ measure to calculate a ratio IQ for either adults or children was the Stanford-Binet LM, published in 1972 (IIRC). The Stanford-Binet Fourth Edition, published in 1986, employs a deviation IQ (standard scores with a mean of 100 and SD of 15) and was never very successful. The most widely used measures of IQ for children (Wechsler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence - III for very young children and the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-IV for kids six and up) yield deviation IQs, as does the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale - III (the WAIS-IV is due for publication this summer).

Dave, word: As you hump up that authoritative tone you might pause and reflect on the fact that you don't know squat about the topic at hand. As a general rule.

ETA: Only versions of the Stanford Binet published prior to 1960 calculated IQ dividing mental age by chronological age. In 1960 the LM version was published, by which time enough information had been gathered about the mean and variability of children at each age level to convert the scoring procedure to "attained score/expected mean score for the child's age". The 1973 revision of the Binet LM I recalled reflected re-norming only.  

So Dave's authoritative proclamation is about a half-century out of date.

A history of the Binet may be found here. I also revisited Matarozzo's 5th edition version of Wechsler's Measurement and Appraisal of Adult Intelligence for the above clarification.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TARD-OFF HOMOS.

YOU SET UP A BLOG AND I'LL COME OVER AND OUSTMART U.

NO BANNINATION'S OK??????

I SuuuGEST YOU DON'T DRES'S UP IN RED HIGH HEEL'S OR GROW MUSHROOM'S IN RICE COOKER'S BECoz I ALREADY KNOW'S YOU GUY'S ARE'S TOO SMaarT FOR ME ON THAT ONE.

EVEN A BLOG THAT IS DESIGNED AND THINK'S FOR ITSELF, BECoz IT CAN'T ........IF I'M NOT THERE!

BUT ID YOU WNAT TOO ARGUE ABOUT HOW EASY IT IS TO TAKE A 70'S PORN STAR LOOK ALIKE PIANO PLAYER TO A CHURCH AND MAKE HIME PLAY KUMBAYA TO A HAIRSHITED 70'S PORN STAR LOOKALIKE PR REP FOR AN INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT, FAR RIGHT, FACIST MORAL EQUIVALENT, BOOK BURNING, COURT ADJUSTING, NO BOUND'S CENSORING, YANKEE ELEETIST DUMBFUCKERY GOON......BUT NOW SERIOUSLY  THAT WAS A REALLY NICE NICE NICE NICE HOMO WEDDING.

WHERE THE MAN HAD NO BALLS AND THE WOMAN WAS A MAN TOO

....IF YOU DIDN'T RLY RLY RLY LIKE THAT THEN LICK MY PUPPIES, DRESS ME UP AS MADONNA AND RUB ME ALL OVER IN HONEY AND THROW ME TO THE LESBIANS IN AN id  SMOOCH SMOOCH FEST.

....SO, BE MY GUESTS, HOMOS'S. dt

Dave is that HOMO Luskin going to quit being the biggest arsehole in the  ID universe and just play golf for the rest of his life, he deserves it after all doesn't he? ....For ALL the selfless service to the cause?

MUSHROOM'S MUSHROOM'S MUSHROOM'S!!!!!!! dt

Date: 2008/07/10 15:37:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ July 10 2008,22:07)
* No, I'm not so girly that I'd slap him.  I'm more the biting, scratching, eye-gouging, groin-kicking type.

My kinda girl...

...get your ass down to Mapouto Mozambique next week and I'l take you to Dar es Salaam Tanzania and Zanzibar for a decent spanking.

...oops.

Hope I didn't interupt anything.

Date: 2008/07/10 15:56:26, Link
Author: k.e..
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. -Admin]

Quote (Ftk @ July 10 2008,23:36)
I like Sal.  I think he's a lot of fun...just like Davescot.  I enjoy their ability to laugh at themselves when they blunder.  They're human just like the rest of you and they say things that they shouldn't at times.

I think if you folks met them in a bar somewhere, you'd all have a great time together.  You need to cut them both some slack.

laff at themselves?

hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

......they have no sense of humor.

They think El Demshit has a brain and they themselves is smrat bec0z dey iz bustin a parijim.

sryusly dey has de herpes frm kissn de Demfrog und dey is gay like u.

Funny?

....u want funny just watch sal creep out of the closet in full white spandex with sequins and Dt in a red dress and a chainsaw defending the KKK.

Now that is funny.

u on the otherhand r jst a time waster with exima.

If Dt and sal walked into a bar and said to the barman ..... it would definetly be the start of a joke.

Date: 2008/08/26 09:16:59, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 26 2008,15:26)


Dear Mr. SteveStory, if that is your real name:

In this great country of ours, only a communist would deny a man the right to discuss what's in another man's pants.

I'm filing a class-action suit on behalf of my client, Richard Thughes, for sexual harrassment and irreparable harm for unstated monetary damages. I have taken on this case pro boner and I intend to move  for a bad court thingy where you fix the things you did.

I heard Mr. Thughes say that the offending log which he has been unjustly and cruelly deprived of his rights was in fact a dark beige cheese log, and as we all know, hearsays are kinds of evidence.

This will prove that Mr Thughes is innocent of not being guilty and this will stand up in court, unlike sloths and probably English people. Thus I must warn you, Mr Story (if that is your real name) we've got precedents, a paper trail and surprise witnesses, each more surprising than the last. If the log ain't poo, you must...withdrew!

Yours Truly, deadman_932 esq.

P.S. : Louis watches "The Apprentice" for hair styling tips

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU

Date: 2008/08/27 02:05:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 26 2008,21:40)
This has a nice DaveTard / UD type feel:

http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uua4hbTZP

OH YEAH?.......... HOMO!

2 PROBLEMS WITH THAT GIRLYBOY


p1. MY OP ED PIECES ARE DELIBERATELY NOT NOT NOT .........REPEAT NOT!!!!! SAVAGE IRONICS or OFF THE WALL DEEPLY PROFOUND DEVINE WIT.

THEY ARE FUCKING SERIOUS AINTILLEKTUWAL BONERS....HOO RAH!

p2. HOW CAN YOU COMPARE THE FOLLOW UP COMMENTS ON THAT LINK WITH UD BONE HUNGRY BOTTOM FEEDERS?

JUST WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO INSULT HERE?

JUST COMPARE THE STYLE, THE WIT, THE IQ LEVELS, .........THE GIRLS!!!!! FUCK MAN IF WE HAD GIRLS  WHO TALK ABOUT TITS THE WAY THAT LINK OF YOURS DOES THEN IT WOULD BE GAME OVER AT UD.

WHO WOULD LISTEN TO ME IF THEY COULD BE DRINKING BEER AND PUTTING THEIR HEADS DOWN ON GIRLY TIT PILLOWS EVERY DAY?

IF I COULD BAN YOU, I WOULD!

dave tard ©

Date: 2008/08/27 02:41:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (bfish @ Aug. 27 2008,09:34)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 25 2008,23:03, from a UD quote of DaveScot)
But Dave has authority on his side:          
Quote
In Dembski’s latest book are references to nuclear transfer experiments showing that when an enucleated egg of one species receives a nucleus from a different species development (until it spontaneously aborts - none live to adulthood in interspecies nuclear transfer) proceeds along the path of the species of the egg, not the nucleus. So by what we know right now what makes a horse a horse instead of something else resides outside the nucleus.

Isn't Dave the world's biggest Craig Venter groupie?

Seems Venter might have tried this last year.....Genome Transplantation in Bacteria: Changing One Species To Another

Of course, it's STILL just a bacteria.

THATZ RITE LADYMAN!

VENTI 'N I IZ FAMOUS FOR BEING IN THE WRITE ROOM WHEN THE SHARE OPTIONS WUZ BEING SHOVELLED OUT!!

HE IZ AZ GENIUS AZ ME.

HE INVENTED THE APEMAN GENOME PROJECT .....AND........ HE IS THE PROJECT!!!!!!!!

HE PATENTED HIMSELF, MAN I LOVE THE GUY, EVEN I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT.

FUCK WITH AN EGO THE SIZE OF DR. V. JUST IMAGINE WHAT DR. DR. D. 'N HE CAN DO TOGETHER IF I MAKE THEM BOTH COFFEE AT THE SAME TIME?

NOW GET OUT OF MY WAY I'VE GOT SOME LAWS I WANT TO MAKE UP.

1. THE LAW OF PATENTS.
INVENT A LAW THAT CAN BE PATENTED.

2. GENETIC LAW.
MY GENETICAL DADDY WASN'T A HORSE OR AN ASS BUT COMBINING THE TWO PRODUCED A FLY ON SOME MIL. GROUPIE TURNIP MUD FENCE (that one needs more work)

3. BLOGZAR'S 2ND LAW
(you will like this one)
SAME AS THE FIRST, TICK OFF MY PARANOID SGT. MOTHER HEN SYNDROME 'N U CAN FUCK OFF AND DON'T COME BACK.

MORE TO COME HOMO'S

dave tard ©

Date: 2008/08/27 08:30:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 27 2008,16:17)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,06:44)
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 27 2008,12:28)
 
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 26 2008,17:47)
I have extensively read feminist literature and I think you'll find that women have boobs for their own edification and not ours.

Apparently they also wear make up and perfume because they are ugly and they smell.

I wear them because it's easier than carrying on a sensible conversation with most college age males.  It keeps them in a malleable state of pheromone shock.

I have long suspected this tactic was being employed. Thanks for confirming it.

The best part is, it works even when we tell you we're doing it.

.....Yeah .........I have the same problem with practitioners of the opposite gender ......no matter how naughty I tell them I am they just won't believe me until I show them.....I must get myself a wedding ring and a good book.

Date: 2008/08/27 09:15:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 27 2008,17:03)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,08:47)
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 27 2008,14:17)
 
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,06:44)
 
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 27 2008,12:28)
   
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 26 2008,17:47)
I have extensively read feminist literature and I think you'll find that women have boobs for their own edification and not ours.

Apparently they also wear make up and perfume because they are ugly and they smell.

I wear them because it's easier than carrying on a sensible conversation with most college age males.  It keeps them in a malleable state of pheromone shock.

I have long suspected this tactic was being employed. Thanks for confirming it.

The best part is, it works even when we tell you we're doing it.

Tell us? Bah!

It works even when you hang out neon signs with flashing arrows pointing to a detailed explanation and organise a team of sherpas with maps and bright torches to lead us to the explanation whilst simultaneously kicking us repeatedly in the backside screaming "IT'S OBVIOUS".

I'll file that under "It only feels kinky the first time?"

IT'S KINKY IF YOU DO IT MORE THAN ONCE GIRLY!!

THAT'S WHY I NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT......

Date: 2008/08/27 12:02:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,18:21)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,16:03)
 
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,08:00)
 
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,15:46)
   
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,04:44)
I have no idea why women were/are ever considered the "weaker sex". You ladies have all the power and all the most desirable {ahem} assets.

Louis, I'm really not sure how you would be an expert on having power or desirable assets.

[SNIP]

Ask your wife.

Louis

P.S. You serve 'em up. I'll ace 'em! ;-)

I did. And your wife, too.

They laughed especially hard at my use of the word 'asset'.

Dating kids from junior high again, eh?

The judge warned you about that.

Louis

Oh yeah?

.....Trust you to know that kinky Judge.

I'll bet he wears a mirkin, sackcloth and likes a good spanking...is his name Lord Roger?

There's something about the English and just in case you think you're off the hook.....the Welsh are English too.

Date: 2008/08/27 12:58:15, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,20:24)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,10:13)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 27 2008,18:02)
   
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,18:21)
     
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,16:03)
     
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,08:00)
       
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,15:46)
       
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,04:44)
I have no idea why women were/are ever considered the "weaker sex". You ladies have all the power and all the most desirable {ahem} assets.

Louis, I'm really not sure how you would be an expert on having power or desirable assets.

[SNIP]

Ask your wife.

Louis

P.S. You serve 'em up. I'll ace 'em! ;-)

I did. And your wife, too.

They laughed especially hard at my use of the word 'asset'.

Dating kids from junior high again, eh?

The judge warned you about that.

Louis

Oh yeah?

.....Trust you to know that kinky Judge.

I'll bet he wears a mirkin, sackcloth and likes a good spanking...is his name Lord Roger?

There's something about the English and just in case you think you're off the hook.....the Welsh are English too.

I am NOT Welsh. Darn you to heck, darn you right to heck!

Louis

KE, we told you. Louis is half Turkish, half Merino.

BTW, KE, aren't you supposed to be in Maputo?

Maputo, Pemba & Palma Mozambique and Dar es Salaam Tanzania
Thanks for reminding me, I'm going back next week for an encore.

Date: 2008/08/27 13:30:25, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 27 2008,21:19)
UD is a living empirical test of poe's law.  i won't be surprised when we find that Tranny Tard is really k.e.. writing beatnik tardisms in swahili then running the text through babelfish while using Lou's picture, sans most of the whiskers, as an avatar.

Ahsante Sana Bwana.

Wales sounds a bit like Maputo ........I told them my name was Louis

Date: 2008/08/27 13:49:01, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 27 2008,21:40)
Oh the mean and fun can continue, I was just hoping that with the combined intellectual muscle around we could do better than 100% mum jokes.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good mum joke, but I reckon we could reduce the mum joke:serious stuff split in favour of something more brainy.

After all I came online for something intellectually stimulating, and whilst the banter is great (and you knows I loves it) I am just missing the really good stuff that had me looking in books as opposed to remembering schoolyard taunts. Maybe I'm just getting old and boring in my old age......wait a minute!

Anyway, 'Ras and Arden, you're only envious because I tried to raise standards before you did. ;-)

Louis

Touchy.....Does that mean you LIKE living in Wales?

Cheer up what you need is a good holiday ...somewhere where you can get a cold beer all year round and the sun comes up each day.

Date: 2008/08/28 20:42:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 28 2008,19:23)
Reductionists Gone Wild...

Quote
You can look on living things as some kind of software with kernel soft which binds different config files togeather and interpretates them. But each organism has different set of different config files where each element of organism has one or even more config files. You can tamper with different stuff in config files, some stuff is constants, some stuff are changanble, some stuff is dependent on other config file stuff, some may be is exterior things which change according to weather or week day!

At the end you get complex system celluaar automaton math into living things. ID does not excludes them in general, only we have to find it’s place overall life cycle of the organism. Behe prooved himself that there is even some place for random mutations and natural selection to produce SOME stuff. But I like to look onto organism as big big software with built in 3D printer with bunch of config files, for legs, ears, eyes, CPU etc.


Hilarious post precedes and follows this comment (pannenberg, you sly devil you ;) ).  These kind of tards have more in common with Dawkins than they could possibly imagine.  

I like to look onto organism as big big luminous being with connection portal centered somewhere between last and next to last chakra.



hehehehehehe

Yeah just imagine if teh designer was made in dog's image?

Like UD PC Mogul Davetard or Mr Gate$

We wud haave 2B reboot everytime a process hanged its'elf.

"Why...why oh lord designer hast thoust depleted my stack, out pointed my pointers, crashed my hard drive, nailed my interupts?"

......"Shut up and die" said the Kernal.

Date: 2008/08/29 23:04:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeannot @ Aug. 30 2008,02:43)
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 29 2008,16:17)
My French is lousy but doesn't the French title "Du cerveau à Dieu" of DO'L's "The Spiritual Brain" mean something like

"From brain to God"?

Yes it does.
Where does this lousy translation come from?

Incorrect colloquial English, that back translation should be

"From (our) Brain comes God."

In DaveTards case, since he is only aware of taste of the next cheezy poof, it should be.

"From (my) Tastebud comes God."


In "ID for the truly cluess(buy my book)" D'Ol it should be

"From (my) Vanity Press comes God."

In "Watercloset or Waterloo? De-Nile and Darwinism" (One man's journey to Dover and home again without firing a shot) Dembski it should be

"From going nowhere fast (and being B. Forrest's roadkill)comes God."

Date: 2008/08/29 23:13:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeannot @ Aug. 30 2008,02:43)
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 29 2008,16:17)
My French is lousy but doesn't the French title "Du cerveau à Dieu" of DO'L's "The Spiritual Brain" mean something like

"From brain to God"?

Yes it does.
Where does this lousy translation come from?

And of course remembering Flyblow Dave ....Portuguese is half French and Spanish.

So the Portuguese title should be

"Da cerveja vem o Deus"

Date: 2008/10/21 15:10:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Jkrebs @ Oct. 21 2008,04:58)
Denyse's latest post: "Liberal fascism: What it is and why you should care?"

So much for too much politics.


faaaarrrrk???

DAMN RITE! HOMOS

NO MORE CHARDONNAY AND FREE SEX FOR THEM!

.....MAKE THEM WALK OUT INTO A FIELD IN FRONT OF HERR CHENEY "BIRD HUNTING"
.....OR LOCK EM UP IN GUANTANAMO ....BETTER STILL SEND THEM TO THE MIDDLE EASTERN FRONT...SCHNELL! SCHNELL!

HAIL CHOMSKY DEMBSKI!

Date: 2008/10/21 15:16:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (BWE @ Oct. 21 2008,22:12)
Quote (C.J.O'Brien @ Oct. 21 2008,12:16)
Quote
Fascism is not a program in politics, it is a mood.


So my wife had a bad day the other day, and now my neighbors have been disappearing, local industries have been nationalized and reconfigured as armament factories, and I appear to have woken up today in some manner of... work-camp, I guess you'd call it... boy, was she in a mood.

Yours too huh? Boy, mine had her mood and now the neighbors are putting marks over their doors...

A yellow cross?

Date: 2008/10/22 12:24:48, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ Oct. 22 2008,13:40)
 
Quote (olegt @ Oct. 21 2008,15:25)
An interesting conversation is taking place at UD.
...
Dave's wrong: the bogus "global trend line" was put there by one Andrew Barr at National Post (a conservative newspaper in Canada), not by the NASA scientists.  Here is a link to an opinion article where the graph first appeared.

DaveScot is still refusing to acknowledge the problem with the graph.

   
Quote
DaveScot: Yeah, but alarmists don’t let data get in the way of their alarm.

And adds a bit of irony for good measure.

HEY HOMO .......YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?

ALARMISTS DENIERS  USE DATA IRONY AS FACT.

LOOK IT'S EASY ....WHAT IS A FACT?
A FACT IS ANYTHING THAT PASSES MY davetard® TEST FOR TRUTH...OK?

A "FACT" ON THE OTHERHAND IS JUST LIBRUL BIAS AND CAN BE IGNORED AT A WHIM.

HERE IS HOW IT WORKS.

SOME DELUDED PEOPLE THINK THAT PASCALS WAGER IS JUST A CHEAP FORM OF INSURANCE THAT ONLY REQUIRES A QUICK KNEEL DOWN, CLASPING OF YOUR OWN HANDS AND A MUMBLED HOMILIE WITH YOUR EYES SHUT.
CHILD'S PLAY.
WELL THAT MAY BE SO BUT I HAVE THE RECIEPTS...AHH NOT ACTUAL PAPER ONES YOU UNDERSTAND BUT BILL DEMBSKI SIGNED ONE OF HIS BOOKS FOR ME....WHICH IS THE SAME AND THAT'S A FACT, NO IRONY AT ALL...OK? (SWEET WORDS TOO, BILL....THANKS. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DINNER INVITE IN 2011 BTW...OH AND CAN I HAVE A DISCOUNT ON YOUR NEXT BOOK PLEASE?)

HERE IS ANOTHER

REMEMBER THAT THE SO CALLED "FACTS" SAID THERE WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ AFTER THE INVASION.
THAT SAME INVASION WHICH ONLY WENT AHEAD TO STOP WMD'S BEING USED BECAUSE THEY WERE *SO THERE* ANYWAY BECAUSE BUSH SAID IT WAS A FACT.......EVEN THOUGH BLICK SAID THEY WEREN'T?

WELL THE PRES. LOOKED UNDER HIS DESK AFTER THE VICTORY AND THE FACT WAS THEY WEREN'T THERE EITHER....SO NO IRONY THERE...JUST FACTS.

THINK ABOUT IT ....I KNOW I DON'T davetard.

Date: 2008/10/23 11:20:44, Link
Author: k.e..
[quote=Erasmus, FCD,Oct. 23 2008,00:45][quote=k.e..,Oct. 22 2008,12:24]
Quote (Zachriel @ Oct. 22 2008,13:40)
     
Quote (olegt @ Oct. 21 2008,15:25)
An interesting conversation is taking place at UD.
...
Dave's wrong: the bogus "global trend line" ....

etc etc

....THINK ABOUT IT ....I KNOW I DON'T davetard.

where the hell have YOU been?  been too normal around here lately, I'm starting to feel like a libertarian or something.

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU



BUY THE WAY YOU MISSSPELLED LIBRARTARIAN!

Date: 2008/10/23 11:49:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 23 2008,18:48)
A momment of truth?
As a non-native speaker I have to ask if      
Quote
"But that is without saying intelligent design does not always have to be primarily focused on the supernatural."
isn't actually the same as
"But that is with saying intelligent design does always have to be primarily focused on the supernatural"?

LOOK SMARTASS WE DON'T NEED OUR OWN WORDS TRANSLATED BACK TO US WITH MALICE A4THOUGHT 'N IMPOLITENESS...OK?

WHAT I MEAN IS "DON'T DO AS I BLOG SAY, DO AS AS I TESTIFY IN DOVER...ER...OR NOT"

OR LOOSELY TRANSLATED FROM THAT OLD PORTUGUESE PROVERB "I AM NOT YOUR SISTERS COUSIN'S MOTHER'S UNCLE'S 3RD CONCUBINE'S KITCHEN BOY, JUST HIS BEST FRIEND"......OR WHATEVER.

ANYWAY......I'M MORE RELAVANT THAN A SNOWBALL IN FLORIDA OR A REPUBLICAN LANDSLIDE '08. davetart pp Dr.Rev.W.A.Dembski

Date: 2008/10/23 12:09:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ Oct. 23 2008,19:52)
Quote (GCT @ Oct. 23 2008,09:24)
To sum up, if you have bookended data, the higher polynomials often track closer to the actual data points, which is great if that is what you want (I can think of some applications where it might be warranted).  For extrapolation, however, be wary of any best fit curve.

I'm not sure if that is correct.

If we extrapolate using the 6th-order polynomial, the Earth's temperature will quickly go below absolute zero. Even molecules will have to wear mittens. If we extrapolate using the linear-regression, then the Earth's oceans will eventually boil off and the surface will become a bubbling and hellish cauldron.

I'm quite certain the actual results will be somewhere in the middle.

YOURE DEAD RITE ABOUT THAT ZAC!
....AT LAST SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ME ME.

THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG.

WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT GRAVITY WHICH WILL HOLD DOWN ALL THAT HEAT ABSORBING SOOT ON GOOSE'S BACKS THUS HEATING THEM UP AND SAVING THEM ENERGY WHILE THEY FLY INTO THE TROPOSPHERE GIVING RERADIATED EXTRA TERESTRIAL SPECULAR GOOSE RADIATION.

jUST ThINK A MASSIVE GOOSE POWERED THERMAL OVERLOAD REDUCER...WE DON'T HAVE A THING TO WORRY ABOUT. SO VOTE FOR PALIN...SHE'S A GOOSE TOO. dt

Date: 2008/10/23 22:46:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Oct. 24 2008,04:19)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 22 2008,15:45)
where the hell have YOU been?  been too normal around here lately, I'm starting to feel like a libertarian or something.

It appears he's been filming a topical show for PBS:
Lord of the Gourds: the Pursuit of Excellence

U R RITE I HAVE BEEN FILMING HUGE GOITERS

MAN GROWS HUGE GOURD

Date: 2008/10/24 03:37:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 24 2008,08:21)
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Oct. 23 2008,20:28)
 
Quote (franky172 @ Oct. 23 2008,11:50)
E.T.A: That's a hard does of reality.


magnificent.  next band name, comes with theme.

THEY LOOK A LITTLE TWO DEAR FOR YOU.

Date: 2008/10/24 14:54:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 24 2008,18:34)
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 23 2008,17:58)
Quote (Jkrebs @ Oct. 23 2008,15:01)
No more politics at UD.  Let's see if this works:

 
Quote
Focusing on ID at UD
William Dembski

The presidential election has loomed large here at UD over the past several weeks. After discussion with key UD administrators, we’ve agreed to set the election aside and put the focus here back on ID (and on topics directly pertinent to ID). Short of the presidential candidates raising ID, the election will no longer be a topic of discussion on this forum.

"Key UD administrators" makes it sound so professional, doesn't it?  The key administrators called to the emergency meeting on the top floor of UD Tower would be who, exactly?  Dr Dr D, Denyse, and Poe the cat?

Well, Denyse has been extremely busy writin' all those speeches for Sarah Palin.  Also.

We're all just extremely happy that at least Denyse didn't teach her how to go shoppin', or hair-stylin'.

ELITIST HOMO!

SINCE WHEN HAS BEING A COLDER CLIME, INTELECTUALLY CHALLENGED, DEAD MOOSE FLOGGING, SKINHEAD, MOUSTACHIOD,   BUTCH FEMALE HAVING ROBBERS DOG HAIR STYLING AND WEARING RECYCLED CLOTHING DISQUALIFIED ANTI LIBRUL FACISTS FROM OFFICE?

.....OR PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATES FOR THAT MATTER?

..OH WAIT..ER OK ..I'LL REPHRASE THAT.

WHO WOULD YOU RATHER GIVE YOU A......

Date: 2008/10/25 00:17:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 25 2008,07:34)
Quote
   For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against “liberal elitists” and “leftist intellectuals.” Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.

   The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity — and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.


http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2008....opinion

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN A PHONY PROPAGANDA CLASS WAR WITH ELITIST HOMO LIBRULS AND COMMIE INTELLECTUALS.

WHAT IS THE NEWSPEAK DOUBLE PLUS GOOD MANIFESTO FOR THE NEW REPUBLICANS ????

"U WANT FRIES WITH THAT?"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Date: 2008/10/25 06:36:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 25 2008,13:30)
Quote (khan @ Oct. 24 2008,23:32)
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 24 2008,06:47)
 
Quote (Patrick Caldon @ Oct. 23 2008,21:42)
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....in-dvds

   
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And there are now 260 reviews. More of the reviews I am seeing are not just Darwin cultists venting auto-hate. They include non-cultists engaging with the subject.


Can we have black robes and ghouly altars and stuff?  And sacrificial virgins maybe?

1) We can think of much better things to do with virgins than sacrifice them.

2) auto-hate is like air brakes. You Have to vent them every few minutes. Duh. Sheesh!

Why would anyone want a virgin?  It takes to much time to instruct one.

A point I have made to several of my muslim friends. Why 72 virgins? I'll trade you 5 slags, or 1 woman from Southampton.

Amusingly enough, they agreed and asked for a few bottles of Bacardi to ease the process.

Tchoh, muslims these days aren't as fanatical as in my day. Why I remember....

Louis

Hah 1 woman from Southhampton?

Does your mother know that you are telling the whole world about her?

Date: 2008/10/25 10:24:30, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 25 2008,17:23)
Quote (Gunthernacus @ Oct. 25 2008,08:52)
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/24/palin-fruit-flies/

     
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This morning, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) gave her first policy speech urging the federal government to fully fund the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), “a law ensuring services to children with disabilities throughout the nation.” In the speech, Palin cited the need to do more for children with disabilities such as autism...

[Palin:] Where does a lot of that earmark money end up anyway? […] You’ve heard about some of these pet projects they really don’t make a whole lot of sense and sometimes these dollars go to projects that have little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not.

An FtK style attack on science that she doesn't understand and can't get instant gratification/results from. "I kid you not"?  It's like reading an FtK blog.
     
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Palin did not specify what fruit fly research earmark she was referring to (presumably a grant for olive fruit fly research), but she is apparently unaware that scientific research with fruit flies has led to valuable discoveries that have boosted autism research, as a study at the University of North Carolina demonstrated last year

Links at the linked.  Also, the IDEA acronym leads to all sorts of Sal jokes, but I haven't had enough coffee yet.

Crosspost of a comment I made on Pharyngula:

What Palin said is not so crazy. Scarce scientific research funds should be allocated on merit, based on a peer review of competing proposals. Apply for grants, make a scientific case, receive your grant. That's how it should work. Was this an earmark that went directly to the researcher or research team, or was it to some state agency that then invited grant proposals? If its the former, she has a point.

Come on Heddle how would she even fit that in between performing on talk shows and shopping ?


Or are you supporting the war on science?

Date: 2008/10/25 11:45:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 25 2008,19:37)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 25 2008,11:27)
Hmmmmm perhaps I shouldn't post after 6 pints of Guinness and a loss to Cardiff Blues by the Tigers. It seems to make me mean.

Pfffff it matters not.

Louis

No, it seems to make you even more stupid.

hahahahahahahaha

AD HOMINEM!

Date: 2008/10/26 01:25:24, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeffox @ Oct. 26 2008,04:24)
Louis writted above:

 
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Mum's not from Southampton, it's far worse than that....Portsmouth.

Louis


Woo hoo!!   Go Pompey!!!
:)   :)   :p

YOU'RE A STORM IN A PORT!

Date: 2008/10/26 13:13:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ Oct. 26 2008,20:23)
Since Friday night, the entire UD forum has seen 15 comments vs. 27 on this thread alone.  What's behind the hiatus?  Dave jumped the shark?  A general pre-election funk?  UD going out of business?  Inquiring minds want to know.

God seems not to available for bailing out God's Own Party.

I wonder what happened?

A rogue candidate wouldn't take his calls?

He lost his shirt on Wall St. and couldn't donate as much as last time?

FTK and the whole of stupid America finally pissed him off with their breathtaking inanity?

He is trying to pass the blame to Mr. Satan?

He doesn't believe in materialism and believes votes can be made telepathically?

He's a communist?

His hearing aid busted and his health care won't buy him a new one?

His second name is Allah and the pundits have ticked him off?

He's not worried about losing, he's got a fantastic job with a great PR firm?

He likes African American Gospel music and can't wait for the Sunday singing after the election?

People speaking in tongues have really been saying "McCain is toast"?

Only the Devil wears Prada...etc?

.....hmmmm I wonder

Date: 2008/10/26 20:51:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 27 2008,01:41)
Quote (Jasper @ Oct. 26 2008,22:25)
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Have a Jasperiser for me!

Hey! What kind of proposition is this?

LOL Sadly (or perhaps not) it is merely a very large burger sold to the extremely inebriated in Plymouth. I can confirm it is delicious.

I am glad I didn't mention the half yard hot dog....

Louis

OH ........SO THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT IN PLYMOUTH?

I HOPE THEY SHAVE THERE!

Date: 2008/10/26 23:33:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 27 2008,00:27)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 26 2008,16:09)

As an industrial electronics technician, I understand exactly what he's talking about.


?

THAT IS SUPPOST 2 B FUNY?

WELL I'M TELLING U AS A GUY WHO NOSE HOW 2 CHANGE LITE BULBS AS WELL.

AND!

A SCREW LOOSE OF FULL FLEDGED INGENEER...... I CAN TELL TAHT DANIEL IS THE REAL MCKOY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A REALLY AND TRULY GENUINE SCIENTIST PERSON WHOOSE OPINION IS BETTER THAN ALL YOU CLEVER TYPES PUT TOGETHER.

NEVER MIND THE FACTS HE FEELS IT AND SO CAN U.

SO COME ON ......WHO R THE BEST ID GUYS?

INGENEERS, LAWYERS AND SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHERS....RIGHT? OH AND SOME DUDE WHO SAID GOD COULD BE DEAD..... NO NOT NEATCHEE ......BEHE

WELL DANIEL IS ALMOST AN INGENEERS AND HE READ THAT DUDE BEHE'S BOOK AND EVILUTION IS NOT TRUE.

WHAT FRIGGEN MORE DO YOU NEED?

Date: 2008/10/27 06:29:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 27 2008,11:28)
Not to impugn or cast aspersions on any of the fine, honorable, principled, honest military recruiters.

All 7 of those guys deserve our respect and support.

BASTARD!

LOOK IF YOU THINK ME AND MY 6 BUDDIES ARE DESPERATE FOR DESPERADOS THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING COMMING ......BUSTER!

I CHECKED YOUR REFERENCE WITH “THE NERVECENTER FOR GOD IS AMERICA AND YOU'RE NOT”...... RUN BY “DAVETARD IS TEXAS, SUCK THAT DOWN CLOWN” AND HE RECOMENDS THAT I SHANGHAI YOU FOR A PRAYER MEETING ...at some place in Corpus Christie called the “The Photo Shoppe”???? I DUNNO IT JUST COMES OFF THE TELEX?!

THEN WE WILL SEE WHICH SCUM REALLY IS QUALIFIED FOR GOD/P'S STORMTROOPERS!

Date: 2008/10/27 10:25:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 27 2008,18:03)
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 27 2008,10:00)
 
Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 25 2008,16:00)
I listened to her speech again and I concede, there is no way to put a positive spin on it.

Thank you Mr. Heddle.... but what's next?

Do you now turn your back on NASCAR and root for Forumula 1?

Give up the NFL for the Rugby Union?

Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

Dave is married and has a child, so we know he is straight.  So, I don't really see that happening.

OK HOMO I KNOW WHAT TEAM YOURE ON NOW.

HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE WORLD CHAMPIONS!

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The All Blacks have a positive win record against every nation they have played and, with the exception of South Africa, have a winning margin of over 65% for every other country. They have won 323 of the 434 matches played, a win percentage of 74.6% (see table). By this measure, the All Blacks are the most successful international rugby union team in history (and consistently so) and one of the most successful teams in world sport. When World Rankings were introduced by the IRB in October 2003, the All Blacks were ranked second. In November 2003 they briefly occupied first and then third before moving back into second by December that year. Between June 2004 and October 2007, the All Blacks were ranked number one in the world. The occupied second place behind South Africa before defeating them in July 2008, and regaining the number one ranking, before losing it the following week with a loss to South Afrca, only to regain it by defeating both Australia and South Africa in August 2008.[84] The All Blacks are also well known, and feared, by many national teams for the potentially punishing winning margins that the All Blacks are capable of, and many national teams' 'worst defeat' moniker was often a match against the All Blacks. The national teams of France, Ireland, Argentina, Fiji, Tonga, Japan, and Portugal hold this unfortunate distinction at the hands of New Zealand.

Their Test match record against all nations (listed in order of total matches), updated to 17 August 2008, is as follows:[85]

Opponent   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn    % Won  
Australia 131 88 39 5 66.4%
South Africa 76 42 30 3 56.0%
France 46 34 11 1 73.9%
British & Irish Lions 34 26 6 2 76.5%
England 31 24 6 1 77.4%
Scotland 26 24 0 2 92.3%
Wales 23 20 3 0 87%
Ireland 21 20 0 1 95.2%
Argentina 13 12 0 1 92.3%
Italy 9 9 0 0 100%
Samoa 5 5 0 0 100%
Fiji 4 4 0 0 100%
Canada 4 4 0 0 100%
Tonga 3 3 0 0 100%
Anglo-Welsh 3 2 0 1 66.7%
World XV 3 2 1 0 66.7%
Romania 2 2 0 0 100%
USA 2 2 0 0 100%
Great Britain 1 1 0 0 100%
Japan 1 1 0 0 100%
Pacific Islanders 1 1 0 0 100%
Portugal 1 1 0 0 100%
Total 439 326 96 17 74.25%





NOW I KNOW WHY U LIKE DONKEYS.

Date: 2008/10/27 12:26:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 27 2008,18:41)
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2008,00:26)
"Life As We Know It Will End If Obama is Elected."

Yup. And I assume that's why he's ahead in the polls.

I was away at a conference. Were there any times when I was supposed to insult Louis that I missed?

Yes

Date: 2008/10/27 12:43:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Lets just see how nutty Daniel is.

Daniel, do you:

1: Believe in witches?
2: Believe in the Devil?
3: Believe the Earth could be 6ooo +/~ 1OOO years old?

Date: 2008/10/27 13:04:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (ERV @ Oct. 27 2008,18:58)
I watched EXPELLED this weekend.

Wow.

That was just awful.

If it were 5 minutes longer I would have shot myself in the head.

Shit.

http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2008/10/a_movie_review.php

Woa there girl!

Vanilla Kahlua, chocolate and a visit to the "Africa Bar" in Maputo, Mozambique or the "Q-Bar" in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania should cure that!

It works for me.

.....You said you were black right? Or was that your dog named Arden? Anyway even if your not, you could still be president....as long as your not a woman....ok that could still be ok as long as you like vanilla kahlua

X k.e.

Date: 2008/10/27 13:15:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 27 2008,21:00)
Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 27 2008,10:43)

Daniel, do you:

1: Believe in witches?
2: Believe in the Devil?
3: Believe the Earth could be 6ooo +/~ 1OOO years old?

We shouldn't bother Daniel with such questions. I mean, he's not running for vice-president...

Yeah right,

he's not a rogue mini her Imelda Marcos unless he's in

drag which considering his completely gay ass-ertions.

So the question should be.......

Daniel do you live with your mom and what is your favourite part of the body?

Date: 2008/10/27 13:17:08, Link
Author: k.e..
If anyone wants to know mine......after a few reds the hips ....very closely followed by the breasts.

Date: 2008/10/27 13:21:57, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 27 2008,18:16)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 26 2008,13:36)
     
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 26 2008,14:48)
I'm predicting that future research will bring to light more problems that cannot be resolved - so long as scientists insist on undirected natural mechanisms.

Implying, of course, that the answers lie in directed supernatural mechanisms, which must be your favorite source of explanations. And for which you provide no support other than your incredulity about current scientific attempts to provide explanations.

OK, Daniel. I'll bite. What sort of research should be pursued if we want to invoke directed supernatural mechanisms?  What kinds of experiments do you propose that would help you find the "truth" that you allegedly are seeking?

I don't think we need to look for a "direct supernatural mechanism" (as you call it).  Such a search would be futile anyway.  No, the avenue that I think holds the most promise is the evidence that life on this planet was a planned event.  One way of pursuing this with empirical research would be to follow the path Denton et al. outlined and seek the answer to the question: "Are there laws that govern evolution?".  Nomogenesis (evolution determined by law) is not a new concept, in fact it was the title of a book written in the 1920's by the great Russian biologist Leo Berg.  That book cataloged evidences of evolution by law including convergent evolution, mimicry, the polyphyletic origin of similar forms, and the geographical landscape as an agency for evolution.  Schindewolf, as you know, continued where Berg left off and cataloged the fossil evidence in favor of such an interpretation.  Others such as Pierre Grasse, John Davison and now Denton have continued in this vein.  

The thing that you may not realize is that modern research, when viewed from the perspective of nomogenesis, unwittingly backs up such a view.  I'll give you an example: The paper I recently read entitled Mitochondrial Evolution contains the following:      
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The possibility has been raised more generally that the earliest branchings of the eukaryotic tree may all be suspect for similar reasons (34, 53), with both “early” and “intermediate” branchings actually collapsing to an unresolved radiation (polychotomy) (54). The emerging revisionist view of eukaryotic evolution is a scenario characterized by a massive and virtually simultaneous radiation (big bang) at the base of the eukaryotic tree, involving virtually all extant eukaryotic phyla (34). [my bolding]

Such an observation is a prediction of nomogenesis.  There are countless predictions put forth by Schindewolf, Berg, Davison, etc., that evolution consisted of rapid "explosions" of phyla.

Here's another observation from the same paper:      
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If, on the other hand, “the divergence of amitochondriate protists and crown eukaryotes is radically overestimated and actually corresponds to a very short period of time” (55), then the above time conflict between the origin of mitochondria and the divergence of the a-Proteobacteria is essentially resolved. We believe this solution is the most consistent with existing data. [again, my bolding]

Again, this radical overestimate of the time involved for divergence of phyla is no surprise to those espousing nomogenesis, but is rather a prediction of the theory.

Fuckology Dan.

We are here to amuse ourselves and thankyou thankyou thankyou.


Man you have scored the trifecta.

Quoting krackpots from the 1920's and 1990's AND YOUR CONSIDERED OPINION!!!!!

.....ooooooooh that's so last century


hahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Date: 2008/10/27 13:35:16, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 27 2008,21:28)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 27 2008,16:44)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 26 2008,13:59)
 
The three most beautiful (and rarely heard) words in the English language:

"I was wrong."*

Bollocks. It gets 9.6 million Google hits.

And I would note that the phrases "Louis isn't obese" and "Louis's mom isn't slutty" get ZERO hits. QED, dude. :angry:

Very good points, well made. However, such things are a double edged sword, after all the phrase "Arden is a kiddy-fiddling, bottom-diddling, quasi Jabba the Hutt replica (just less attractive) who smells of wee" gets no hits also.

Something to think about.

Louis

HOMO!

YOUR JUST JEALOUS

Date: 2008/10/27 14:08:49, Link
Author: k.e..
....so you won't b helping Palin?

poor girl....she really needs you.


......ooooh Louis is a girl!!!

Date: 2008/10/27 14:58:02, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 27 2008,22:38)
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27 Oct 2008 09:20 am
The Looming Limbaugh Syndrome

Ross calls Rush Limbaugh's latest diatribe against moderate Republicans "required reading for anyone seeking to understand one of the most powerful conservative narratives emerging around the looming GOP debacle." It is indeed:
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   When I saw the Weld thing today I smiled and I fired off a note to all my buddies and I said, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait! How can this be? How can this be?  This is the kind of guy that our candidate was supposed to be attracting, and we were supposed to be getting all these moderates from the Democrat Party," and we will, by the way. We're going to get some rank and file, average American Democrats that are going to vote for McCain.  But these hoity-toity bourgeoisie...

   Well, they're not the bourgeoisie, but... Well, they are in a sense. They're following their own self-interests, so I say fine. They have just admitted that Republican Party "big tent" philosophy didn't work. It was their philosophy; it was their idea. These are the people, once they steered the party to where it is, they are the ones that abandoned it.
It really does feel like the Tories in 1997. They got a thumping of a lifetime and yet they convinced themselves that they lost because they hadn't been hardline enough. And the actual remaining members of parliament, all in super-safe seats, marinated in their own juices and became more insular and blinkered before they lost again. And again. It's over a decade later and only now has the Tory party adjusted back to reality. Mercifully, American parties in the states and legislatures and Congress have more lee-way for finding and grooming new talent than British parliamentary parties. On the other hand, the British Tories never went so far off the cliff as to nominate a Palin.


linky

yeeeh hah


<snicker>

Date: 2008/10/28 12:39:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 28 2008,19:29)
Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 27 2008,11:21)
Man you have scored the trifecta.

Quoting krackpots from the 1920's and 1990's AND YOUR CONSIDERED OPINION!!!!!

.....ooooooooh that's so last century


hahahahhahahahahahahahaha

It always amazes me when brainwashed evotards label anyone with a dissenting opinion a "crackpot" (or in your misspelled version "krackpot").

These "crackpots" (Berg, Schindewolf, Grasse, Goldschmidt, Bateson, Davison, Denton, Behe) have cataloged thousands of cases where empirical research has provided evidence that, A) life on earth was a planned event, and B) evolution is determined by law.

The evidence is out there.  There is fossil evidence, genetic evidence, evidence from convergent evolution, mimicry, evidences from biochemistry, microbiology... countless cases.  Just because some of it is old, doesn't mean it's wrong, (if old = wrong, then Darwin was wrong and should be thrown out).  If you are truly interested, I'd suggest a trip to the library, or to amazon.com.  

I don't think anyone here is really interested though.

Daniel I honestly feel sorry for you.

Life just is, it isn't planned or predetermined everything else is just Myth.

Do you believe in Devils or Witches?

Don't be shy you can't get anymore loopy than you already are sunshine.

Date: 2008/10/29 09:59:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 29 2008,15:06)
Louis did you smell that too?  I thought there was a whiff of I.P. in steve's prediction.

anyway the benevolent reptilian overlords will not be overthrown, our perception of reality is just an unrelated noumena narrative that does not converge nor supervene upon the reality controlled by the benevolent reptilian overlords.  There are no degrees of freedom for observing this frame, and it remains true no matter what evidence one perceives to be for or against it.  Do not be surprised when the Sun Sphere is full of wigs, it is just as easily that as Jesse Helms.

PPPFFFFFFTTT!

....VERY WELL.... ABORTIONS FOR SOME, MINIATURE AMERICAN FLAGS OTHERS.....YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

I VOTED FOR KANG AND KODOS

p.s. Obama and McCain were merely exchanging long protien strings if you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.....

Date: 2008/10/29 10:47:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 29 2008,18:10)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 29 2008,07:58)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 29 2008,09:53)
erm i don't believe that is what Richtard had tucked away.  something else entirely.  had to waddle.  couldn't do jumping jacks.  no riding bicycle for him.

Your probably right.  We'll have to ask Arden. I think he was the only one who took much interest in what RTH was packing.

Might I remind you, uh, 'people' who brought this up?

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erm i don't believe that is what Richtard had tucked away.  something else entirely.  had to waddle.  couldn't do jumping jacks.  no riding bicycle for him.



Damn Arden .........your mother sure is cute......


.....And RTH ?

A pestilence on him for a mad rogue! 'a pour'd a flagon
of Rhenish on my head once. This same skull, sir, was, sir,
Yorick's skull, the King's jester.

Date: 2008/10/29 12:30:55, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 29 2008,20:07)
Evolution?  Bugger!
Cosmology?  Feh!
Neurology?  Worth a try - maybe that's got some gaps we can stick a god into...

So did she....


Date: 2008/10/29 13:42:57, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 29 2008,20:59)
Quote (Nerull @ Oct. 28 2008,12:44)
The Face on Mars?

I think that's a good example. Stupid people, much like IDers and Daniel here, leaped to the conclusion that it must be designed. When we look closely, of course, we can see its just or minds seeing patterns in shadows - it doesn't really look like a face when you see all of it, and looks quite natural, and exactly like what we would expect a wind worn mountain to look like. But UFO nuts, and IDers, don't operate at that 'pathetic level of detail.' Only the superficial matters - it looks kinda like a face if the lighting is right, therefore design.

The face on Mars IS a good example.  It was something that looked designed from a distance and at low resolution, but when studied more rigorously and at a higher resolution, lost all appearance of design and became easily explainable by natural processes.

Life ain't like that.  Life gets more complex the closer we look and less easily explained by means of natural processes.

blah blah blah

Daniel I have some news for you, although I suspect you have heard this before.

You are dull, uninteresting and truely witless.

However you have a chance for respectability.

1. Do you believe in the Devil.
2. Please define "more complex" and or "less easily explained" against any internationally recognised standard.

For someone who claims to be objective you are a piss weak and ignorant relativist.

Oh ...and again please link to any paper or any printed work by Behe or his hopeless cohorts that has respect by the wider scientific comunity.

No?

I thought so.

Date: 2008/10/29 14:19:54, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 29 2008,20:25)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 29 2008,11:30)
WHAT NO AMURIKAN FOOD?  BY GOD YOU SISSIES PROBABLY TRY TO REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION TO

ramps!  speckled trout!  Boletus bicolor!  Herycium!  madeola virginica!  Sparassis crispa!  squirrel and dumplings!  Moxostoma patties (do grind them first, bony bastards)!  Branch lettuce!  

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

HA HA THIS IS YOU


SO?

Date: 2008/10/29 22:44:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (didymos @ Oct. 30 2008,03:30)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 29 2008,10:59)
Life ain't like that.  Life gets more complex the closer we look and less easily explained by means of natural processes.

So, to sort of drive home what others have tried to say but which apparently went right past you, you mean to say that even when we got down to the quantum level, the individual electrons would appear to have no explanation by means of natural processes?

Fuck.  So much for the vaunted precision of QED.

Oh man you have removed his primary thesis


....It's like ......wow magic and godditit Q fuckin ED Dude!

Date: 2008/10/30 10:23:07, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Chris Noble @ Oct. 30 2008,13:07)
Quote (olegt @ Oct. 29 2008,21:24)
Dave enlivens the stale board with a post Lest we forget Global “Warming”.  When some poor soul tries to inject a dose of reality, the comment is promptly expunged and a warning is sounded:
     
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Put a sock in repeating any of the mainstream delusions in this thread. That view gets more than enough coverage elsewhere.

Sig worthy.

I followed DaveScot's link on CFC's supposedly not causing ozone depletion and surprise, surprise he gets it completely wrong.

Qing-Bin Lu, CFCs, cosmic rays and the ozone layer

I can understand DaveScot's reluctance to have anybody point this out.

OK HOMO THAT IS ENOUGH.

FOR ELEVEN:-

TT2 DATE WHEN U SAY I AM ERRELIVANT U MUST LIGITIMATELY SAY I HAVE JU=ST COM FROM 2 WARS.

SO THAT MEANS I COULD BE AN ANGLE BUT SINCE.......... DAVE TARD IS MALE......N EVERYMAN IS A CYCLOPS SO NOMAN CAN ESCAPE ME.

LET THE JOURNEY CONTINUE...

Date: 2008/10/30 14:59:18, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 30 2008,21:59)
Quote (olegt @ Oct. 30 2008,11:04)
 
Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 30 2008,12:11)
So close but, alas, the wrong half of the ticket.

I didn't realize you were a fan of Palin, David.  I'm speechless.

We don't know how to break the news to David that the stripper doesn't really like him.

Yeah well, with the price of blow jobs these days DH still thinks that if he strikes up a conversation first, he might get a discount.....in his case .......wrong.

Date: 2008/10/30 15:14:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 30 2008,21:43)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Oct. 30 2008,13:24)
   
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 30 2008,10:02)
anyway i am more interested in k.e..s question.  do you believe in the  devil?

Oh... You guys are good!
I came here with a rather simple prediction and little by little all discussion has been deflected away from that and onto other peripheral issues.

I'm taking that as a yes then.

What about Witches? Believe in them too?

Yup.......nuttier than a fruit cake.



Probably a cross dresser as well.


But hey it's like debating science with Paris Hilton ....another well known transvestite.

Date: 2008/11/01 12:53:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Daniel sez.
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...Lots of scientific research has been carried out by people who believe as I do in the last 4000 years.


...uh oh .....another batshit crazy AFDAVE YEC type.


Please specify your source for the "last 4000 years"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


There is absolutely no point "debating" this twat.

It's no better than discussing the big bang with a gold fish.

Date: 2008/11/05 02:00:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Yawn .......D.S. DREAMS a prediction breathtakingly assinine inanity.....

Quote
I'll make another prediction here.  I predict that it will be discovered that life is made of interchangeable components whose origins cannot be explained in any step by step process and so must've been available from the start for all of life to share.


IT'S MY THEORY THAT DOG OF THE OLD TESTICLE TOOK A CLAW OF DIRT AND BLEW IT INTO A MAN.

THEN TOOK ONE OF HIS RIBS AND GAVE HIM A PLAYTHING WITHOUT TELLING HIM IT WOOD MAKE BABIES.
....HEY RIBS N' HANDS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE....RITE?

THAT CAUSED THE WHOLE WORLD TO GO TO HELL SINCE THAT RIB GREW A COUPLE OF LEGS AND NEVER HEALED WHERE THEY JOINED.

AND THAT'S HOW THE WORLD'S OLDEST PROFESSION STARTED ....PREACH'N FOR A GOD TO HEAL THAT SORE.

THE WORLD'S SECOND OLDEST PROFESSION ONLY STARTED SO AS TO MAKE TIME WOUND THE HEEL OF THE FIRST.

NOW SINCE THAT IS ALL FACT BECAUSE IT IS WRIT DOWN AND SO IS TRUE......

...... ALL YOU SCIENTISTS HAVE TO DO IS FIND THE CLAW BECAUSE DOG STILL HAS IT AND THE PHOTOS OF THE DIRT AND ADAMS GRAVE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE SWEET ........PRAISE DOG AND HIS HOLY CLAW.

Date: 2008/11/05 02:07:55, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 05 2008,02:11)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 04 2008,17:36)
Mr. Heddle: Something to get you through the day --

<snip pictures>

Your Friend, deadman_932

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

wow has Palin spoilt everything for tit lovers?

Date: 2008/11/07 08:01:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 07 2008,14:59)
For certain values of "ID community", it works, as in, "the ID community of William Dembski and Denyse O'Leary".

One hopes the rest didn't think they, like, mattered or something.

TAHT'S RITE WES.

MORPHINETRIKE IS DRAINING THE SWAMP 'N THE FLOATING COMMAND CENTER IS STUCK IN THE MUD.

I CALLED UP SOME GOOD OLD BOYS TO TOW ME OUT BUT THEY HAVEN'T SOBERED UP YET FROM THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES.

BUT JUST YOU WAIT.
ME AND MY BESTEST FRIEND BILL.....

....WHO BTW BET ME A BOTTLE OF SINGLE MALT OBAMA WAS GOING TO WIN??????

.....HECK I THOUGHT HE FINALLY LOST IT AND I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMETHING DESCENT TO DRINK(HAHHAHAHA I KILL ME SOMETIMES).

WELL I WAS PRETTY DAMN PISSED WHEN I HAD TO HAND OVER THAT BOTTLE....BOY SOME FRIEND HE IS.

I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO LET ME OFF BECAUSE HE LETS HIMSELF OFF ALL THE TIME.

ANYWAY HE JUST GAVE ME ONE OF HIS 'PRETEND I'M JESUS' SMILES AND TOOK THE FRIGIN' THING.

I WAS FLABBERGASTED ACTUALLY .....SPEACHLESS WHICH YOU MIGHT FIND UNUSUAL N' .....I CERTAINLY DID.

...NOW WHERE WAS I....

OH TAHT'S RITE ME N' BILL HAVE A PLAN.

WHEN WE TAKE OVER THE WHITEHOUSE AGAIN AND GET THOSE SMART PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO MANIPULATE DUMB PEOPLE BACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT JUST YOU WATCH US.

YOU MIGHT SAY LIES WERE THE FIRST CASUALTY OF THE GOP CAMPPAIN BUT NEVER MISUNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THOSE THAT ARE FOOLED ALL OF THE TIME.

D.T.

P.S. BILL, PLEASE REPLY TO MY EMAILS I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL YOU A SNEAKY AMORAL WELSHING SCUMBAG.

Date: 2008/11/09 18:11:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 09 2008,23:22)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 09 2008,12:54)
   
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 09 2008,14:51)
As for differentiating between the world's religions and discovering which (if any) of them provides the most accurate description of God - that'd be a matter of comparing the various theologies to the evidence.

That should take about 5 nanoseconds.

Unless, of course, you have more "evidence" than you have divulged thus far...

I'm fairly convinced that most atheists would argue that there is "no evidence" for God even if he was standing right in front of them.

...uh huh...

So you are an Athiest?


....and if not ....please supply the ...er ....Devilish Details....hehehehehehehehe

Also please GROCK this for me Daniel...

GOD IS NOT MARY'S SON.

Date: 2008/11/09 23:15:35, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 10 2008,05:27)
Dear Scooter:

Get off the high dudgeon or huffmobile that you rode off on, and get back to dealing the tard.

The morphodyke's cutting the drivel with her laxatives or wrinkle cream or something, and I can't get that pure hardtard state of bliss.

Do something soon, Dave -- I'll put in a good word to Billy if you do, so maybe he won't spank you publicly again.

WELL MAY YOU LAUGH DEADMAN .....HOMO EARTHWARMER!

BUT I HAVE FOUND MY ARTISTIC SIDE.

I HAVE A DREAM.

AND IN THAT DREAM I GET TO CHAINSAW CLOWNS AT GUNPOINT.... ALSO I AM THIN AND SEXY IN THAT DREAM.

dt

Date: 2008/11/10 06:06:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (BeheKilledDarwinism @ Nov. 10 2008,13:02)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 10 2008,03:53)
 
Quote (BeheKilledDarwinism @ Nov. 10 2008,03:51)
So how long do you guys think it'll be before the majority of science is ready to move out of the Dark Ages of 19th century pseudoscience (Darwinism) and into the Intelligent Ages - modern molecular science and genetic engineering aka Intelligent Design?

I'd say just after Behe publishes a peer reviewed paper on Intelligent Design in a respected journal.

About 10 minutes after that.

It's a well known fact that any positive mentioning of Intelligent Design has been banned from peer review. The Darwinists suppression of I.D. is a clear indicator that they've lost the intellectual battle.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

The very definition of ID IS PSEUDO SCIENCE

Nice try....

..... you lost Dover with absolutely no chance of a recount

....you lost the election


...you lost the culture war


...you lost in the cinema


...your blogs are a hotbed of yawn


... your whole team of pink unicorn believers is completely fucked over

...and now you're reduced to projecting here

(let me spell that out for you ...The ID dissing of Darwin is a clear indicator that they've lost the intellectual battle)

....what's your encore?

....oh I KNOW an attack with wet lettuce

boohooohooo



suck that down and enjoy it godboy

Date: 2008/11/10 06:24:36, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
It seems he has not understood the basic fact about natural selection: It can only work through what is available for selection; it may perfect, less than perfect, or even poor, but still workable.
Sickle cell anemia comes to mind. So what's his point?  (Just rhetoric, the point is goddidit.)


Well according to D.S.his peculiar imaginary voices which he has construed as Allah's bastard pontifications ...didn't do evolution and since that same imaginary ghost can be found by 'science' .....as long as palm reading and raising the dead are elevated to science.. then all we have to do is wait for his ....giggle..... scientific explantaion!

We've obviously lost ......(rolls eyes).

Date: 2008/11/10 06:32:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Daniel's revelation.

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It's actually from a lack of empirical facts in support of natural pathways and from my own belief in God (which offers an alternative explanation) that I derive this conclusion.  


Well sunshine I don't believe in your belief.

Even more so since you only believe in a Myth.

You simply do not have any proof that your mythical sky monster exists. None whatsoever.

Date: 2008/11/10 18:05:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 11 2008,00:30)
that is why there is poe.  you just can't tell.

I just had a distant cousin of mine sit me down and tell me with all seriousness about the anti-christ and the rapture was a fixing to happen and all this stuff.  she had this song she had written about Obamination and mystery of babylon and desolation.  i think they might be singing it at her church.  she told me he is going to receive a mortal head wound and it will seem that he has arisen from the dead and he will walk again and rule 3 days later.  and she will be gone because of the rapture but her old man has a hideout and they have some friends and everyone is stocked up and they said we can only be attacked overhead or from the river we have the holler covered.  and she said they are fixing to put electron microchips in everyones hands right after the TVs go digital and they are going to have to get rid of the phone and the cable and all that stuff and be off the grid and she is going to go live in the barn.  she said that some feller somebody Emmanuel is going to play a prominent figure in this Obama administration to make all these events play out according to prophecy.  

oh man now i love this shit but it's hard when it's in yer face and not some dork on a computer sommers.  it was hard to me to hold it in you know.  I said "Well I don't really believe all that stuff anyhow.  Now tell me what if you was to wake up and all of the Episcopalians were gone but no one else?"  she said who are they and what do they do and I said they drink wine at communion and where there is four there is likely a fifth and then her old man started laughing and told her to hush for a while.  and she did for a while.

she always wants to play music when i go up there and so i grabbed her guitar so she'd hush and started singing some songs.  and one of them is a bit sacrilegious well to some people and i'll be damned if she didn't start praying real loud in the room and stuff.  she didn't tell me to stop or not play nothing like that, she just started in with that chanting stuff.  i straightened up and played some stuff she knew and then i got the hell out of there.  

no doubt that loony shit is real heddle.  perhaps you have been cloistered in your lily white ivory tower so long you forget what yer fellow travellers actually believe.  or possibly i know some real crackerjacks.  if so i know where there is a whole bunch more of them too buddy.

Oh Heddle knows only too well 'Ras.

He's wuz hoping they wud vote twice 2 get his Wasilla Hillabilly coast to coast Neiman Marcus raidn', 6 day creation, gunz 'n beanz chin draggers back into the eagles nest SO HEATHENS LIKE YOU WOULD FINALLY ACCEPT CHRIST WAS A TRIGGER HAPPY, BLOOD DRINKING, HUMMER DRIVING, ZERO HEALTH CARE FOR ALL CAPITALIST!!!

FUCK YOU JUST DON'T GET IT ....DO YOU?...HOMO!

Date: 2008/11/11 06:12:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 11 2008,04:47)
I'd like to hear David's views on quintessence.

<snicker>
...Wes, you are a cruel .....cruel man.

You might have well asked him to tell you what he thinks of Alan Sokal or if the square root of -1 = jouissance

To which Heddle I suggest this suitable rebuttal.


We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multidimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously. A machinic assemblage, through its diverse components, extracts its consistency by crossing ontological thresholds, non-linear thresholds of irreversibility, ontological and phylogenetic thresholds, creative thresholds of heterogenesis and autopoiesis. The notion of scale needs to be expanded to consider fractal symmetries in ontological terms.*

But hey ....don't worry, you voted for Caribou Barbie so don't credit you...right?


*Playgerized from here

*edited to correct French

Date: 2008/11/11 06:23:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Fine tuning indeed.

Opernockety, who was the world's best piano tuner, only tunes once.

And as Behe candidly revealed on the stand in Dover in his glorious shining 15min of fame  moment....."God could be dead".

COULD BE?

SHOULD BE, IF THAT'S THE BEST HE CAN DO!

Presumably the fine tuner spun the dial and shuffled off his mortal coil?

FFFFS GET A GRIP HEDDLE it was pure chance....THAT HUMANS EVOLVED THAT FAR TO BEG THE QUESTION!!!!


A HEMEROID COULD HAVE STRUCK  THE EARTH!!!!!

Christ I hope there is intelligent life on another planet because too much here seems to be going down a black hole.

Date: 2008/11/11 06:53:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 11 2008,05:34)
To prove the independence of physical constants, wouldn't one need a model that explained their values? (i.e., one that allowed the calculation of those constants.)

Henry

CONSTANTS? CONSTANTS?

WE DON'T NEED NO CONSTANTS.

Constants are unitless and cultural constucts.

A classic example is the false horizon on Russian and US aircraft instuments, one moves the horizon the other moves the aircraft reference.

42 is the answer.

Date: 2008/11/11 07:00:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (jeffox @ Nov. 11 2008,07:12)
'Ras wrote:
Quote
apparently god had some sort of idea when he was a making them squirrels and there aint no squirrel that has ever come from a dog or a rat or nuthin anyway.  this is what that christian biologist dude Bono calls "The Edge" of evilution.  now what we can learn from this is that god loves us. see it is his will that squirrels do all that bullshit they do that goes along with the stuff he gave them, genetic information if you will and I think you do.  It's gods will.  you can't get species changing into other species just what some nerdy science type says "Oh that one is purplish-bluish-black and this one is bluish-purplish-black clearly they are 4999999 million years old" and I still haven't found what I'm looking for.



What, you too?    :)    :)    :)

I now pronouce you Man and Wife.

Date: 2008/11/11 07:23:41, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (dheddle @ Nov. 11 2008,15:14)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 11 2008,06:36)
It's not clear to me that a "fine tuner" is really much help for those who long for a God that does the work we want God to do. Stipulating fine tuning, we see that the universe is fine tuned for Hitler and the holocaust, Ted Bundy, vast stretches of emptiness, a world with no apparent intrinsic moral structure, history as "nightmare from which I am trying to awake" and eventual heat death for one and all (extend list as needed). Perhaps the target of fine tuning was the existence of water, and all else that followed is epiphenomenal dross. And so forth.

In short, upon its confirmation, fine tuning would stubbornly and perhaps surprisingly remain a fact of physics and cosmology and resist useful conversion to a theological domain. Equation of "God" memes with fine tuning would ultimately remain an act of faith.

None of which poses any problem for a theist. Well, maybe it is problematic for a theist who longs for "a God that does the work we want God to do." But not for a theist who believes that God does the work that pleases God, and not, necessarily, man.


Gesus H. Krishna

Spoken like a true Clavanist..er Clovenist...ooops KALVINIST.

THANK GOD YOU ARE ONLY A MAN Heddle....TWIT.

Date: 2008/11/11 18:01:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 12 2008,00:28)
Quote (steve_h @ Nov. 11 2008,15:47)
I wonder if Barry the lawyer has ever wondered why the legal system that employs him exists. It seems to me that fear of judgement and punishment by other human beings plays quite an obvious role in keeping religious people as well as atheists in line

Which leads to the obvious question: Why do we all, atheists as well as believers judge and punish other people?  why are we not indifferent nihilists? How many atheists are nihilists?

And what about animals? They have no 'God', but they definitely are capable of moral behavior.

Except if they are weasels....

Date: 2008/11/11 21:32:34, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 12 2008,03:03)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 10 2008,02:35)
i think this tells us all we need to know about Daniel:

 
Quote
"If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance."  Orville Wright

"The presence or absence of a creative super-intelligence is unequivocally a scientific question."  Richard Dawkins


His position then seems to be
a) much of what we hold for true isn't so. That applies especially to evolutionary theory, but not to the bible.

b)The question of God is a scientific question; we have to search the answer by science.

Another clue is his declaration:    
Quote
I am definitely unmotivated


He is not interested, his only motive is to have his faith bolstered.
Which, I believe, is what drives most creationists.

While I am at it:
 
Quote
Natural selection has always been the Achilles heel of the ToE anyway: when something (such as the Krebs' cycle) is revealed to be the best of all possible solutions, it is said to be the work of selection, but when something isn't the best possible solution (windpipes, eyes, etc) it is also said to be the result of selection.  So everything whether it works right or not, is explained by selection.  Convenient...  


It seems he has not understood the basic fact about natural selection: It can only work through what is available for selection; it may perfect, less than perfect, or even poor, but still workable.
Sickle cell anemia comes to mind. So what's his point?  (Just rhetoric, the point is goddidit.)

You don't have a clue what I believe about the bible (or anything else).  Don't make assumptions.  If you really want a sense of what I believe, go back and read all my posts in this forum.  Don't just breeze in mid-conversation and pronounce judgment.  It makes you look foolish.

hah projection

Date: 2008/11/12 07:17:49, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2008,06:36)
Casey, Dembski, and Mark Chu-Carroll tells a badass story I never heard before:

Quote
The "information smuggling" rubbish goes back to some work that Dembski did with (I think) Robert Marks. They argued that, following on Dembski's "No Free Lunch", that true evolutionary systems were no better than random walks through a fitness landscape. Since it's easy to demonstrate that there are evolutionary software systems that do perform significantly better than random walks, they needed to come up with some explanation of why those systems were able to do what Dembski had supposedly proven to be impossible.

The excuse they came up with was "information smuggling". That is, some information about the structure of the fitness landscape was sneakily added into the system - and the result of that was that the evolutionary systems were really following a pre-ordained path determined by the smuggled information.

So, according to them, the evolutionary system didn't actually do anything, except follow the instructions sneakily added to the system in the form of smuggled information.

It's a really trashy argument, which is demonstrably wrong. The demonstration is when an evolutionary system produces a result that surprises the people who ran it.

There's a famous example, which I don't have a handy reference for at the moment; I learned about it in a speech given by Bill Joy.

A group at Sun Research was looking at using evolutionary systems for circuit design and layout. One of their results
consisted of two electrically isolated components - components that couldn't influence each other. And yet, they did. It turned out that the system was exploiting a flaw in the manufacturing process - the insulation between circuit traces wasn't as complete as they thought. So they got a result based on a physical property of their manufacturing process which they were not even aware of.

That's not smuggled information. You can't smuggle information that you don't know. But the evolutionary
experiment exploited it - a randomly generated mutation
put two circuit traces very close together, so that they
influenced each other, and when the circuit containing that
feature was evaluated for correctness, it got the right results. They only discovered the manufacturing process by trying to understand why the circuit generated by their system worked!

Posted by: Mark C. Chu-Carroll | November 11, 2008 4:20 PM


Marc Chu-Carroll : Casey Luskin :: Porsche 911 windshield : bug

When I see things like that, as an academic exercise, I like to think, "How would I respond to that if I were the kind of complete...person...who believed, here in November 2008, that ID was a fascinating new science?" and I think I have a reply.

By using the flawed circuit printing machine the researchers were unwittingly smuggling the information into the system. "You can't smuggle information that you don't know." Why not? You can smuggle heroin that you don't know about. That's why at the airport, they ask you to make sure not to let a stranger named Raul take your carry-on alone into the men's room for 10 minutes before you go through security. It's because you could be smuggling something without being aware! Raul is in the bathroom with a brick of Shanghai Sally and a sewing kit, but that yam-yam could just as easily be encrypted CDs, in which case, as you went through security, you'd be unwittingly smuggling information! The scientists were acting as unwitting mules for the information. Knowledge is not a requirement for smuggling.

Shhhh Daniel will be over here to tell you "You see..... god used circuits to design evolution"

Date: 2008/11/12 19:29:12, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 12 2008,21:59)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 11 2008,16:45)
   
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 11 2008,18:36)
   
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 09 2008,14:07)
       
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 09 2008,15:22)
I'm fairly convinced that most atheists would argue that there is "no evidence" for God even if he was standing right in front of them.

I'm not "arguing" for or against anything. I'm merely pointing out that you have not provided any such objective evidence.

Unless I missed it somewhere. Where was it? And when did God stand right in front of you? Did you filch some of that moonshine that you accuse Erasmus of abusing?

There are more mind-boggling engineering achievements and technological marvels inside one human being than in all of man's inventions combined!  Yet you'll continue to hold that there's "no evidence" for God.

Open your eyes man!

I MEAN HAVE YOU EVER REALLY REALLY LOOKED AT YORE HAND?

I MEAN, REALLY?

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING INVOLVED IN A HUMAN HAND?  'CAUSE I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU!
(WHY ARE WE YELLING?)

CRIKEY 'RAS!!!!!

You have finally found the world's only man most in need of joint and a nurse!!!

Date: 2008/11/12 20:18:13, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 13 2008,02:51)
   
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 12 2008,14:35)
I've asked god into my life in exactly the manner you describe completely sincerely. In fact I'm doing it again right now.

Thus far nothing has happened.

All I can say is keep doing it Louis, it could take awhile.

Have you considered an alternative Daniel?

Schizophrenia..

.....pssst while no one's listening I'll let you in on a little secret....those voices you have in your head are not real, if they were you could put them on a tape recorder...right?

Just perform this simple (scientific) test.

Plant two rows of carrot seeds and ask your 'god' to make one row grow bigger than the other.

If you have a better method please share that with us......we'll be all ears hahhahahahahhahahaha.

I'm sure Louis will be dust before he gets any messages of the nature you describe ....unless he goes crazy and starts hearing voices

.....erm strike that.....

....Unless we have a conversion from batshit paranoid. And he resurects the nearest thing we had to god on AtBC.....oh Richard where art thou?

Let us all pray for Louis .......gather round brothers and sisters and repeat this meme.

Oh Richard who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name,
Give us this day our daily belly laugh,
Thy belief system is still not nearer,
Thine desire for max fun in the here and now rather than the here after,
Demands Louis repent his trespass, I have already forgiven him.
Even though I am (very) easily tempted, I cannot resist it.
So deliver us from fat cheesy poof eating , gun toting, uneducable twit fridge mechanics ....Daniel included.
"For thine is the state we wish to be in, and the pure joy  OYE YE RAPTURE , and the spotlight, for eva and eva.  Yah the Sun God King of Egypt......Amun Ra






Date: 2008/11/12 21:48:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 13 2008,05:08)
Quote (Richard Simons @ Nov. 12 2008,17:44)
Some colleagues were laughing the other day. Apparently 'Barack Obama' is very similar to the Cree for 'sagging thighs'. Thought you might like to know ;-)

what does "Arden Chatfield" sound like?

pfffftttt he's teh gayer HARDFEEL HATMAN




see second from left

Date: 2008/11/12 21:50:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 13 2008,05:28)
Quote
and derive a proof of why you chose to use english instead of Paiute, beginning with a right triangle at a velocity of 137 meters per second.


I already answered that question in a previous parsec of this thread.

Henry

a furlong / fortnight?

Date: 2008/11/14 05:23:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
If Daniel had enough faith in the Bible he would not have to ask his questions, he would be at peace with God and the world. Instead, he is doomed to keep groping for confirmation and never will get the answer he so desperately is seeking.



Indeed this is the problem objectivist whack jobs who believe that the Bible is a factual report when actually it is a collection of oral poetry that was only ever meant to be taken as a subjective exposition of the human condition.

The end result from their bibliolatory is scientism.

Anyway what Daniel is REELY getting at .......is the only hope he has to replicate is after his own death.

We should all donate so he can have his sperm frozen when he dies.

I volunteer to find him a suitable anti darwinist of the female persausion and erm.....make sure she is a suitable breeder.

The test will be totally scientific and guaranteed by me to be 100% accurate and hopefully very personally satisfying.

Daniel if that test does prove to be 100% accurate then I will have done what you fail to see the purpose of life is....ensure my genes are passed on.

It's written in the Bible.

Date: 2008/11/14 09:30:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 14 2008,16:36)
Quote (Benny H @ Nov. 13 2008,22:50)
Dembski's quitting UD so he can spend more time doing research. Now that he's rolled up his sleeves we can expect Waterloo any day now.

Dembski's no Napoleon. Both are megalomanics who made a muck of things, but Napoleon was a much snazzier dresser.


3 Quarks for Muster Marks (Quark Quark Quark said the Seagulls) et Doktor (of sums) & squint squint Sunday School Certified Dr. Reverend Dembski must be cranking up a storm.

They are made for each other, I suspect Ego and Vanity will win.

I can't wait for the inevitable fallout as the two parsons fight over the last bun at the picnic.

No you have it
no no no you have it
no no I insist
no no please I've had enough
etc etc


Can you imagine the victims of a 'peer' review?

If it's a quality press they'll be Sternbergering themselves to eternity, if it's a vanity press they will curse the cold damp dead hand of Herr Doktor (until they break even).

Date: 2008/11/14 09:50:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 14 2008,17:39)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 14 2008,09:35)
Suggestion to Bill: avoiding the word "crank", even as a verb, will likely be a good thing.

Meh.  All this talk of crank, crack, and leaving UD is a solid indication that Dembski is giving up harder stuff.

mmmmeh ........check his empties election morning after.

Date: 2008/11/14 10:29:45, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 14 2008,18:06)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 13 2008,22:30)
well Wes have you had any body that you know love and more or less respect look you straight in the eye and tell you that either Obama or Rahm Emmanuel is the anti-christ and to expect the chip mark of the beast just as soon as they take TV to digital?

fascinating.  some people have a criterion for who they vote for that goes

   
Quote
1.  Is either candidate the anti-christ*?
1a:  Yes.  Vote for other candidate
1b:  No.  go to 1


they just need a bad guy.  

Of course. That's the role that Louis fulfills in our lives.

And of course we have the picture.....



Apollo with lamb..

The lamb is Welsh and he is holding duct tape in the other...

Date: 2008/11/14 11:14:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 14 2008,18:48)
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 14 2008,10:31)
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss...


Those bastardos still won't let my puppet post!

And I only wanted to shower my blessings on the Dr. Dr. and wish Barry big success.

meh, you just have to steel yourself to talk like one of them for a few posts, praise Dr Dr Dr Dembski to the roof and they'll let you become one of the chosen.....


For a little while anyway.

EASY FOR YOU HOMO!

I HAVE TO BEND OVER AND ENJOY MORFINEDYKE'S  BRISTLY MOUSTACHED RUBBER GLOVE SEARCH FOR MY SOUL AND THE RESULTS OF THE PHONE CALL TO THE BUNKER EACH TIME I WALK THROUGH THE DOOR.

NOT JUST THAT BUT BILL STILL CAN'T GET IT THRU HIS HEAD THAT DENIAL OF GLOBAL MELTDOWN IS STILL THE NEXT BIG THING.

BARRY ET AL THINK THEY HAVE THE INSIDE RUNNING BUT LETS FACE IT VYNAL AND VELOUR WILL NEVER GO OUT OF FASHION WITH THE TURNIP CROWD.

THEY WILL BE BEGGING ME FOR BONERS JUST YOU WAIT.

dt

Date: 2008/11/14 19:37:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 15 2008,02:56)
Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 14 2008,17:59)
In my opinion, the aim of the exercise isn't to convince scientists that they have a case.  It's to give them a chance to say "See?  We can has pier revue!" when they write their next press release.

Exactly, claiming that ID is science while carefully omitting to mention that nothing in their peer reviewed paper has anything to do with ID.

Davey will be happy because he can barely make it through an abstract anyway.

You know, if I thought these people had any impact outside of a few mouth breathers on UD and the people here who have such a poor excuse for a sense of humor that we find them amusing, I would be cynical and bitter beyond my years.

IT HAS NOT ESCAPED MY NOTICE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT JOINING IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF ID.

MAYA SEEMS TO THINK WE ARE AMUSED BY HER LESS THAN GRACIOUS COMMENTS TO PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE GENUINE IN THEIR BELIEFS  AND WISH TO SEE THE END OF THE CURRENT PARADGIM BUTRESSED BY DIED(sic) IN WOOL DENIERS OF OUR REALITY.

ID HAS THE SUPPORT OF MANY IMPORTANT PEOPLE .....ME.(I KILL ME SOMETIMES)

MAYA IS NO LONGER WITH US dt

Date: 2008/11/14 19:49:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 15 2008,03:10)
 
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 14 2008,19:51)
I've finished half of the abiogenesis papers now and I must say that the thing that strikes me most about this subject is, quite frankly, the silliness of it all.

From this paper, written by a veritable 'who's who' of abiogenesis researchers:              
Quote
We envision at least three phases in the evolution of the genetic material, beginning with an acyclic system, then making a transition to RNA, and finally settling on DNA.

My immediate reaction to this is to ask "Why?". blah blah etc. etc.

rtfp

Yeah ......then he forgot what the question was and wondered what it would be like to have a joint with god then .........when he couldn't imagine what that would be like....he leaned up against a door and tried to sweet talk his way into Louis' knickers...

...oh baby, I AM TOO SINCERE!! look deeply into my eyes, have you seen sincerity like this before? baby please don't hide from me...come here hot stuff I want to squeeze your love lemons....smooch smooch.

HE'S A HOMO!

p.s. Daniel he only likes sheep ...smell his hands.

Date: 2008/11/15 01:58:17, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 15 2008,08:16)
I like using expressive words. I think some specific, if unusual, words are really useful in getting across your meaning. So I like having a big vocabulary that occasionally will include a word like castigate, or perfidy, or assuage. It helps me mean just what I want to mean. And I don't use unusual words gratuitously; I have it on good authority that typical graduates of good universities know what I'm talking about even if once in a while I say a word they don't know but which makes sense in context.

The problem is this: I don't think I can improve. I'm right at this kind of threshold where if I go the next step I'm using words that almost nobody knows and therefore obstruct rather than inform. If I were to improve my vocab at this point I'd wing up using words like pellucid and grandiloquent, and there's no point. Almost nobody knows that tranche (heh, heh) of words, and using them would be pointless and make me look an ass.

So I'm not sure what to do to be both a better and more sophisticated communicator. I've thought about deliberately studying maybe idioms from Shakespeare, or parables from the bible, but those aren't the touchstones they used to be. Would many people get a reference to Lady Macbeth's madness or Jacob screwing over Esau? I don't think I can get much better at language skills, well, I mean, I don't think it's worth the effort at this point. So what should I do? I'm thinking I'll study the social science of communication more. Maybe that's more important at this point. To understand how to build coherent narratives, or appeal to the audience's values, or that kind of stuff. If anyone has any suggestions let me know.

(edited to gerundize 'think' into 'thinking')

UH HUH .........THAT'S WHAT ME AND BILL TALK LIKE.

HE ONCE SAID SESQUIPEDALIAN OBSCURANTISM WAS FOR THE THE ORNITHOPTERAN HOI POLLOI.

I LAUGHED AND SAID HE'D SWALLOWED A BOOK WORM BY DESIGN.

HE FROWNED AND SAID IF HE MADE IT ANY SIMPLER PEOPLE WOULD SEE PLAIN THROUGH HIS TORTURED DOUBLE SIDED NEOLOGISMS AND THINK HIS LAST EPILSTLE WAS PROMOTING DARWINISM.

I SAID DON'T WORRY THEY ARE NOT THAT SMART.

HE LOOKED AT ME REAL HARD AND GLARED ......ACTUALLY.

ANYWAY AFTER THAT HE WENT TO PLAY WITH THAT MARKS GUY AND SOMEHOW I DON'T THINK HE'S COMING BACK.

I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO OUT POLY SYLLABALIZE EACH OTHER AND GIVE EACH OTHER CUB SCOUT POINTS FOR HIDING GOD IN EACH OTHERS LUGGAGE.

HECK THE LAST TIME I DID THAT WAS WITH THAT GIRLS UNDIES THAT BILL TRIED TO HIDE IN MY LUGGAGE AFTER THAT BIG ID SHINDIG AT WACO.

HE EVEN PUT HER NUMBER IN MY PHONE.
BOY DID I HAVE TO LIVE THAT DOWN WHEN I GOT HOME.
LUCKY FOR ME I STILL HAVE THE PHOTOS SO BILL IF YOU GET TOO FRISKY I'LL BE POSTING THEM ON MY NEW WEBSITE.

IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED "THE TEXAS ID MASSACRE REPORT" REPORT.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO REVEAL ALL ABOUT THE GOINGS ON BEHIND THE SCENES INCLUDING BARRY'S CROONING OUT SIDE BILL'S WINDOW LATE AT NIGHT, DENYZES PENCHANT FOR DESIGNER COVERALLS AND HOB NAIL BOOTS AND ROBERT MARKS' SECRET RENDEZVOUS WITH THAT RUSSIAN GIRL DRESSED UP AS A DAUGHTER OF THE REVOLUTION....THE PAINTED TOE NAILS AND THE RIDING CROP STUFFED DOWN THE BACK OF HER TWINSET WERE A BIT OF GIVEAWAY.

OH AND ANYONE POSTING WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY BANNED.  HEH I KILL ME SOMETIMES-dt

Date: 2008/11/15 03:20:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 15 2008,04:10)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 14 2008,19:37)
MAYA IS NO LONGER WITH US dt

And I don't take Davey and his all male revue at UD seriously enough to be against them, either.

What is the sound of one nostril snickering?

My mind actually boggled at that Maya.

The last time it happened (the sound of one nostril snickering) was when my very pretentious neigbor offered me a little Columbian to 'snort'....which I thought was a little weird because he has a Honduran wood fired oven he had specially made on his back deck after a trip to South America. I asked him how his supply of Hondurans was going and he ...well just kind of looked at me, then slowly turned his head around and looked at his friends and that was the end of that conversation.

Anyway I was still interested to see what snorting a little Columbian would be like. So I placed an advertisement in the newspaper. "Wanted one little Columbian (preferably not too small). I've been reliably informed Colombians are good to snort. A good sense of humor is a must and an ability to speak a little English as my Columbian is not too good would help"

Imagine my surprise when the phone rang that very day.
I told her to come straight over because all my car's tires are flat and anyway I can't find the keys and I'm pretty sure there's no gas in it either.

Well when she got over to my place she wasn't that little in the parts that mattered, let me tell you

I was at odds and ends trying to work out where to start snorting her bceause all of her looked good so I invited her in and it just so happened my ipod was playing a nice Antonio Carlos Jobim Bosa Nova so I suggested opening a chilled Francois Montand Brut Rosé.

I'm still guessing but I don't think she expected that because she had this little tiny bag of white powder that she was keen to do something with. I didn't think too much of it, I thought it might be  salt since I told her I was out of gas. She said she was going to bring some over so maybe that's what it was. Anyway right then I was very hungry so I ordered in a nice crab dinner from one of the restaurants just around the corner and asked if she wanted to join me. Her deep dark eyes were quite hungry I thought and she said 'why not.

We got to talking and she asked me if I had a card. 'What sort of card' I said.
She said 'you know an ATM card.
I said 'yeah but...." then I said 'you don't take Visa do you? She looked at me real strange like I was demented or something and said 'look I'm going to call my friend and then I'm going out dancing'. 'OK' I said 'is your friend pretty? 'Yes' she said 'good' I said 'I'll come too.

Then she took my Visa card and started playing with the salt.
I said 'I've seen that in the movies and you're not going to put that up my nose' . 'OK' she said 'open your mouth... no... no just your lips' and she rubbed it on my gums. I asked her right then if I could snort her and she just snickered with one nostril

I woke up the next morning in Dar es Salaam in a room that I never saw before with the breeze blowing a curtain away from the window revealing a dusty potholed street trickling along with people that all looked like Barrack Obama and his wife avoiding the odd beaten up old taxi as it bumped pothole to pothole.

Date: 2008/11/15 07:30:23, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 15 2008,14:57)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 15 2008,04:20)
I woke up the next morning in Dar es Salaam in a room that I never saw before with the breeze blowing a curtain away from the window revealing a dusty potholed street trickling along with people that all looked like Barrack Obama and his wife avoiding the odd beaten up old taxi as it bumped pothole to pothole.

LOL - you expected to wake up naked on Rosarita Beach Sunday morning with a mouthful of sand, an empty bottle of tequila, and no idea which hotel is yours, praying for a fig leaf and looking for your car.

Hahahahaha .........HOMO!

My alter ego only hangs around in bars where his mother works disguised as a tattooed ex Marine Sargent at Arms that takes confession for gay autodidact boy scouts with self image issues and a hopeless father figure reattachment problem.

If he woke up in that room he would have had to explain to his 2 bed partners that the rest of the day would be taken up with long hours of pure pleasure .....if he was me. When in reality he would have headed for the nearest beach to complete his destiny.

Anyway I can't tell you the rest of the story because it's all in Swahili.

Date: 2008/11/15 08:05:40, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 15 2008,15:41)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 15 2008,03:20)
Anyway I was still interested to see what snorting a little Columbian would be like.

Sordid tale deleted.

That was supposed to be a private moment!

All men are bragging bastards.

ooooops...
ok I half expected your comment .....erm ok I fully expected a full on de pantzing. However I honestly didn't think you meant THAT!

How the hell did you know?

I should do more actual.... er listening.

And it is true that some men (except the usual suspects) are victims of some terrible naughtyness, me in particular. But I can see I still have a lot to learn. I should just stick to TARDALOGUES. And I have given up most things to do with chemical assists it really screws up long flights and the bragging. .....or maybe not.

ETA
PS hmmmm I'm wondering (existentially) if I'm doomed to cynical satire or have a future in fiction...Daniel what do you think?

Date: 2008/11/15 09:26:03, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 15 2008,17:04)
i would subscribe to your newsletter.

OK HOMO!

JUST CLICK ON THIS DONATE NOW BUTTON.

Date: 2008/11/15 09:30:39, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 15 2008,17:11)
Uncommonly Denyse at Uncommon Descent:
       
Quote
We are the 99% chimpanzee? Scratch that!
O'Leary

...Hey, if you like bananas, that’s fine, but you are still far more closely related to Ronald Reagan than to Bonzo (whatever you may think about that).

Uncommonly Denyse in The Spatula Brain:
 
Quote
...it is not the purpose of this book to argue that evolution did not occur. There is a fossil record, after all. In spite of its many defects, the record shows that evolution occurred. (p. 12)

 
Quote
But what about our nearest animal relatives, the chimpanzees and other large primates....Does the answer to human nature lie in our animal nature? In our kinship with chimpanzees? (p. 13)

 
Quote
Humans and chimpanzees are thought to have split off from a common ancestor about 5 to 7 million years ago, according to current evolutionary theory. Because chimps are the animal species closest to humans ...(sidebar, p. 14)

So, just WTF are you saying, Denyse?

I think she means Ronald was a monkey.

Date: 2008/11/15 10:06:18, Link
Author: k.e..
K.E rushes in breathlessly

Hey everyone The Darwinist Antichrist Underground just got a successful hax into Marks' PC.

They recorded Dembski and Marks having a 'Discussion'

Here's part of the discussion.

WAD:Bob how's that paper cranking along?
RM: Don't call me Bob William, my name is Robert.
WAD: Don't call me William Robert I'm called Bill.
RM: Whateva, what do you want?
WAD: Well I've picked one of the great unwashed to run UD so that should cover your main concern on the PR front.
RM:Please Bill you're making out I'm some sort of jealous lover, you know I'm married.
WAD: Yeah OK. But family comes second to the main game, you know that Robert.
RM: Don't tell me your personal problems please Bill I'm a busy man. Is your new blog czar smart?
WAD:What sort of a question is that Robert?
RM:We don't want the tone lifted Bill, it wouldn't look good.
WAD:Why you holier than thou washed up creep.
RM: Bill face it Dave Tard said the most intelligent things on that blog
WAD: Oh Christ, you're starting to sound deluded.
RM:I'm deluded? You're the one who is deluded
WAD: I'm deluded? The only person who said that got banned off my blog.
RM: You're deluded Bill, you don't run me.
WAD: That's what you think Robert.

Date: 2008/11/15 22:24:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Amadan continues to raise the bar

Date: 2008/11/16 08:19:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
Creationism doesn’t make much sense to me but pogroms make way less sense.


wTf?

NO THEY DON'T HOMO!

Take the father of modern political spin as the grandchild^10,000 of levantine social realism.


Yes Joseph Goebbels the Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda suggested that in order to create an enemy all you needed to do was tell the people who to hate, create an enemy in other words.

Pogrom? jEsus efn' Christ does that guy even have the faintest idea?

Religion IS A POGROM.

Date: 2008/11/16 22:29:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 17 2008,05:24)
well can you see the linkosity in It's New Post?  I counted 16 links to one of her blogs or the other.  0 comments.  what a dumbass.  if i was that dumb I would shave my back and learn to walk mindwards.

YEAH AND WHILE YOU GET THAT SHAVE LEARN TO SING!Ras singing Gwen Stefani

Date: 2008/11/17 06:51:37, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 17 2008,14:41)
YES who are these other observers.  are we observing them?  or are they observing us?

When they stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into them

Date: 2008/11/17 07:27:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 17 2008,14:54)
Barry's post reads like a statement in the Soviet press announcing that another apparatchik "resigned to take a job elsewhere."

ONE OF OUR FAVORED CADRE OF CARD CARRYING PARTY MEMBERS HAS VOLUNTARILY GIVEN UP HIS POST AND NOW RESIDES AT HIS DACHA IN THE COUNTRY FREE TO PURSUE HIS TRUE PASSION, RAISING MUSHROOMS.

THE VALUABLE INSIGHTS OF DaveTard *name supressed*, ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE ONE TRUE WORLD VISION FOR HUMANITY WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR WHAT IT WAS. THAT EFFORT HAS EARNED DaveTard *name supressed* THE RIGHT TO KEEP HIS DOGS AND HIS FAMILY WHO WILL BE ALLOWED TO JOIN HIM SHORTLY (after he zigns zee papers).

UNCLE BARRY 'Joe' A DECLARES ALL OTHER POSITIONS ARE SAFE ( party insiders are fearful this purge may not be the last and are writing messages to families in invisible ink and plying the guards with copious amounts of coolaid to get the letters posted)

DaveTard *name supressed* WILL BE ALLOWED TO KEEP ONE SIGNED COPY OF NFL, A HORSES HEAD AND THE MEMORY OF A DAMP LIMP FINAL HANDSHAKE FROM OUR DEAR LEADER.

A NEW FIVE YEAR PLAN WILL BE AUTHORIZED NEXT WEEK. IN THE MEAN TIME NO DANCING FLAG WAVING OR MEETINGS OF MORE THAN 3 PEOPLE ARE PERMITTED.


IF YOU RECIEVE A KNOCK AT THE DOOR LATE AT NIGHT MAKE SURE YOUR SUITCASE IS PACKED.

Date: 2008/11/17 23:42:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (sledgehammer @ Nov. 18 2008,04:32)
Thought it best to archive this one:
We'll see if Barry (or Dave) let it stay.

25

Bueller_007

11/17/2008

8:38 pm

Dave, I’m sorry you were EXPELLED before you had the chance to show us that proof that Obama wasn’t an American that you were talking about before.

Remember how you said that the Republicans were going to whip that proof out right before the election? And then how it didn’t happen? I’d love to know more about it.

WELL SINCE I'M BANNED AND CAN'T BAN YOU DIRECTLY ANYMORE I'M GONA BAN U REMOTELY FROM MY FLOATING COMMAND DEATH STAR!!

WHY IS IT THAT YOU CHANCE WORSHIPPERS CONSTANTLY WANT TO REWRITE HISTORY.

YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?

HISTORY IS WHAT WE I ALLOW TO STAY, IF IT'S NOT THERE IT IS NOT HISTORY GOT THAT? WRITE THAT DOWN!

LOOK HERE IS HOW IT WORKS.

WE DECIDE WHAT HISTORY SHOULD BE BEFORE IT HAPPENS....RIGHT?

THEN IF YOU FUCK UP OUR VIEW OF HISTORY WE DECIDE WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DECIDED. SO WE CORRECT YOUR ERROR AND YOU HAVE THE CORRECT HISTORY.

IF ACTUAL FACTS GET IN THE WAY WE JUST USE A LITTLE AIRBRUSHING TO REMOVE THE IMPERFECTIONS.

JUST LIKE ID. dt

Date: 2008/11/18 08:39:04, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 18 2008,15:29)
better yet get you a can of that'ar copenhagen fine cut.  you know, worm dirt.  get a good pinch of snuff and pack your upper and lower lips with it.

then you put 3 - 4 of those nicotine patches on your soft spots, like underneath the nards and the inside of your thighs and armpits.  light a cigar.

now get your license or something similar out.  pour the snuff on the counter.  cut the snuff up with your license into tiny little rows and snort all of them, the whole damn rest of the can, up yer nose through a straw.  then smoke a cigarette and swallow your dip spit.  

and then hush honey chile.  if nicotine ain't cutting it for you i suggest crack cocaine.  Hey, it can get you elected mayor of washington DC.

CHRIST RAS!!!! THATS EXACTLY WOT THAT GIRL IN DAR ES SALAAM DID TO ME LAST TIME I WAS THERE!!!

FUCK, LUCKY FOR ME I FELL ASLEEP BEFORE HER FRIEND SHOWED UP.

AND LUCKY FOR HER FRIEND AND HER THOSE NOTHERN MOZAMBIQUAN GIRLS PLAIN MADE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT THE 3 NIGHTS BEFORE I GOT THERE!!!


TALK ABOUT EXTREME

YOU ARE SERIOUSLY BENT MY FRIEND.

CRIKEY I WOULD SHAVE MY ASS AND WALK BACKWARDS TO GET INTO YOUR LEAGUE.

Date: 2008/11/18 08:46:08, Link
Author: k.e..
For some reason this came to mind

In a Land.....

Date: 2008/11/18 09:41:14, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 18 2008,17:01)
Wow, this really is the bathroom wall! (Started smoking in 1943, quit smoking in 1964.)

U MUST BE DED !!

Date: 2008/11/18 20:16:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 19 2008,03:14)
Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 18 2008,17:11)
Quote
Domoman: Think of this scenario: In a given multiverse of infinite universes there would be a universe that is just like ours. However there would also be a universe that’s own existence causes the destruction of our own. Yet this “destructive universe” would also, because of an infinite number of universes, also have a universe that necessarily means the destruction of the “destructive universe.” There would also have to be a universe thats existence necessarily maintains the existence of our universe and the “destructive universe.” But this “upholding universe” would also have a universe that necessarily causes its destruction. So as it turns out, every universe out of the infinite amount of them, must all be necessarily destroyed and upheld at the same time. But this creates contradictions, and therefore it is not possible for there to be an infinite amount of universes if they can effect each other in such a way. At least if the universes have the ability to effect one another, because then, given the infinite amount of universes, they all effect each other.




 
Quote
jasondulle: The infinite is not predictable because it erases all probabilities. An infinite can generate an infinity of whatever it wants. It could generate an infinity of all logical possibilities, or just one.

An actually infinite number of universes could result in any number of paradoxical outcomes. For example, it could result in an infinite number of logically possible worlds, all of which differ from each other. In fact, not only could every logically possible world be instantiated in an infinite multiverse, but each of those logically possible worlds could be instantiated an infinite number of times, so that infinities are being multiplied by infinities, infinitely. Or, it could also result in an infinite number of universes, all identical to our own.

these might be two of the dumbest comments ever posted on the internet.

Oh maaaan!

Did you see that?
See what?
That naked girl leaning up against an apple tree.
Ah.....no
.....oh

Date: 2008/11/18 20:20:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 18 2008,20:16)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 18 2008,06:39)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 18 2008,15:29)
better yet get you a can of that'ar copenhagen fine cut.  you know, worm dirt.  get a good pinch of snuff and pack your upper and lower lips with it.

then you put 3 - 4 of those nicotine patches on your soft spots, like underneath the nards and the inside of your thighs and armpits.  light a cigar.

now get your license or something similar out.  pour the snuff on the counter.  cut the snuff up with your license into tiny little rows and snort all of them, the whole damn rest of the can, up yer nose through a straw.  then smoke a cigarette and swallow your dip spit.  

and then hush honey chile.  if nicotine ain't cutting it for you i suggest crack cocaine.  Hey, it can get you elected mayor of washington DC.

CHRIST RAS!!!! THATS EXACTLY WOT THAT GIRL IN DAR ES SALAAM DID TO ME LAST TIME I WAS THERE!!!

FUCK, LUCKY FOR ME I FELL ASLEEP BEFORE HER FRIEND SHOWED UP.

AND LUCKY FOR HER FRIEND AND HER THOSE NOTHERN MOZAMBIQUAN GIRLS PLAIN MADE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT THE 3 NIGHTS BEFORE I GOT THERE!!!


TALK ABOUT EXTREME

YOU ARE SERIOUSLY BENT MY FRIEND.

CRIKEY I WOULD SHAVE MY ASS AND WALK BACKWARDS TO GET INTO YOUR LEAGUE.

I just figured something out.

K.E. and Erasmus are in fact one and the same person.

Bravo, you had us going for almost a year and a half!

mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Eskimos



HOMO!

Date: 2008/11/18 20:34:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 19 2008,00:13)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 18 2008,12:18)
 
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 18 2008,07:01)
Wow, this really is the bathroom wall! (Started smoking in 1943, quit smoking in 1964.)

1943? Had they even invented tobacco by then?

A war was going on outside and tobacco was heavily rationed but in mysterious ways some trickled down to us from the Germans, I still remember reading from the cigarette boxes - this was in the days when flat cigarettes still were in vogue:

Warum ist Juno rund? Aus gutem grund ist Juno rund.

Besides, there were always the option of collecting German cigarette butts in cafe's.

When we could not get our favourite, a pack of Brinchman Stolz and roll our own...

Still kicking... Upgraded from Win2k to XP the other day, maybe Vista soon too. Or maybe Ubuntu.

hahahahahaha

Hail to a life addict!!!

Date: 2008/11/18 21:36:01, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 18 2008,22:49)
David,

At least Obama was cognizant that he was having difficulty getting the right words together in that particular case. Self-awareness hasn't been one of the things either Bush or Palin has been cursed with. And I wouldn't mind seeing an ethological analysis of a large ensemble of speaking opportunities from those three. I'd bet that Obama's proportion of complete, grammatically correct sentences would be far and away higher than for either Bush or Palin. He might even beat the added proportions for Bush and Palin.

Yeah.

Somehow I think there might be something in the 'sounding like' an elitist thing.

To anyone with a half decent languages education having someone as eloquent as Jacques Chirac (giggle) in the White house is going to be a minty fresh taste burst for the ears.

However Caribou Barbie and ex-Pres. Shrub were cynically selected and very carefully constructed personae/masks intended for mass consumption by an equally carefully constructed great unwashed thanks to free as it has turned out  unlimited revolving Regan/Thatcher 'credit', 24 hour 'news', actually party propaganda and an education system where any test for actual reality based truth aka 'the scientific method' or *shriek* 'Darwinism" has been etoilated.

They 'sound like' ....erm very plain low grade no name carnival bubble gum incomparison.

Could you get anymore elitist than either of them?

Groomed for power and fed their lines from an early age they are as close as you will get to a monarchy in the so called republic.

Heck self awareness is the enemy, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT!

Bush was nothing if not the consummate and perfect politician for his masters. Using a mixture of hokey god talk and 'no fat yogurt' magical social reality his internal voices instinctively knew how not to spook the heard(sic).

Using newspeak sound grabs and pumping it through Big Rupert's pipes direct to the speaker in the ceiling while purging the 'public service' apparatus right  from school boards up to the skull and bones club of state, military, education and industry almost ensured no one was going to step out of line lest they feared the torches, pitch forks, and assault rifles outside their ivory towers at midnight.

Those simpletons down in the village can be whipped up anytime into a force of righteous indignation by the PTB, GOP or DEM.

So I suggest that Obama get hisself into the Homer Simpson ....uh 'speakering in public skool' school. Oh and send a couple of (small) oil companies broke but not before trading his and his friends shares in them before they go under, smoke some crack mixed with the best sens., get seriously bent for years on the best sour mash whiskey money can buy, learn to fly a jet in a private air force for the very rich chosen few draft dodgers when there is a war going on on the other side of the world, misunderestimate Haliburton's fuel and cafeteria bill in Iraq then suppress the body count to midnight, hook up with Osama's brothers and sisters on a few building projects in the UAE, play a lot of golf with other princes of the republic, go hunting and fishing with the non combatants running the industrial military complex. Accept Jesus (again).  Bug everyone for crimethink.

....He's doomed isn't he?

"Oranges and lemons
Say the bells of St. Clements
I owe you five farthings
Say the bells of St. Martins
When will you pay me?
Say the bells at Old Bailey
When I grow rich
Say the bells at Shoreditch
When will that be?
Say the bells of Stepney
I'm sure I don't know
Says the great bell of Bow

Here comes a candle to light you to bed
Here comes a chopper to chop off your head

Chip chop chip chop the last man's HEAD!

George Orwell "1984"


Edited lots of times ....for the fun of it.

Date: 2008/11/18 22:16:08, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Jkrebs @ Nov. 19 2008,05:37)
On the Change at UD thread, an Ode to Dembski:

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22
DougieBear
11/18/2008
10:08 pm

Even if I swim in the sea.
Or decide to plant some peas.

You will always be # 1
By me.

Dougie.


Where is moderation when we need it.

*CLAPS*

Date: 2008/11/19 00:14:52, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Badger3k @ Nov. 19 2008,07:57)
Quote (Badger3k @ Nov. 18 2008,23:55)
I...am speechless.  Wow.  What semi-literate gobbledygook.  I guess it is true that you can string scientific or science-sounding words together and confuse the rubes.  "Etheric strands" and "hold much more frequency" - seriously, WTF?

Damn, missed saying this, and since I can't edit, have to repost.

Is this Jenny "Mercury-Indigo-Mother-Warrior" (aka "Idiot") McCarthy, or another person with their head up their woo?

(couldn't go to the link now, but had to comment on that mind-blowing stupidity).

don't worry man have one of these.....

Date: 2008/11/19 05:49:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 19 2008,12:44)
Davescot Ventures out of UD
 
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Dear John,

Forrest Mims and I get along famously. We've exchanged dozens of emails and he's complimented me at least several times for writing about the many analogies between cellular machinery and human engineered systems.

Thanks for asking.


http://www.iscid.org/boards/ubb-get_topic-f-6-t-000370-p-100.html

Forrest Mims?

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

DAVETARD IS LOOKING FOR A NEW FATHER FIGURE.

JAVISON IS SECOND CHOICE.

dt:Mister  Mims have you heard my latest on cell vs machines?

Mr.M: No David my boy, is it interesting?

dt: Oh very interesting Mister  Mims.

Mr.M: Ok David, ah where is Mr. Dembski?

dt:Oh him, uh I don't know have you seen him?

MrM:Hmmm. I'll just make some coffee won't be a minute sit down and make yourself comfortable.

dt:Let me make it for you Mister Mims

Mr.M:It's ok David I've already made it, please sit down.

dt:OK Mister  Mims.

..Mim's returns 20 minutes later with a cup of coffee for himself.

Mr.M:Oh are you still here David? You should have gone out to play in the garden.

dt:It's ok Mister Mims I was just reading this latest issue of "Popular Electronics"*. Did you write that article Mister Miims.

MrM. 38 years ago, David check the date.

dt: Haha???? I didn't notice ....sorry... I kill me sometimes

MrM:Now tell me more about how horses and cars evolved?

dt:Are you being serious?

MrM: I thought I would write a scientific article about it for Scientific American after you got me thinking about it. Did you solve the wheel vs hoof problem?

dt:Have you been speaking to Javidson?

Mr.M: That fucking nutcase.... are you kidding?

dt: Just checking Mister Mims...look I've got to go now.

Mr.M.Ok David, bye bye. <sips coffee>

*Life is like a horse with wheels.

Date: 2008/11/19 08:22:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 19 2008,16:15)
oh you are so cynical.

<hiccup>

thankyou

<snirk>

Date: 2008/11/19 19:59:53, Link
Author: k.e..
God of the gaps projects:

 
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So to sum up:

A) The God theory Pink Teapot dream  can be the basis of empirical science pure speculation and can provide a framework for research magical realism (it has done so in the past).

B) The currently held theory (God of the gaps)cannot be empirically falsified because its test for falsification is flawed and can be circumvented by endless appeals to future discovery.

C) Modern science has not demonstrated that God is not required or for that matter required, however it will never stand up in court unless Jerusalam or Sharia lore superceeds Roman law as our basis for justice. Anyone for palm reading in court? Or sentencing young female rape victims to death by stoning?
Or woooo .....weather forecasting by Divine Revelation





Why all the god talk DS?

Losing some ground?

Date: 2008/11/19 20:39:22, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (khan @ Nov. 20 2008,04:26)
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But then something happened.  As man developed the technology to examine life at higher and higher resolutions, new evidence began pouring in that suggested that life was not so easily explainable by natural mechanisms.  The structure and information content of DNA, the world of cellular machinery, the dizzying complexity of something so "simple" as cellular division, and many other such discoveries caused the scientific world to grope for adequate natural explanations.


But how big is god's penis?

I'm sure if you ask 'Ras he'll get his measuring stick onto it

That's not fair Daniel is teh gayer and confused. If she does exist (and I've yet to be proven wrong) she has legs that go all the way to heaven and knows how to shake it especially with additional piroquet then a coy look over her shoulder and a slow bump and grind...

..ooooooh that's Freudian ...isn't it?

Date: 2008/11/19 20:43:09, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Jkrebs @ Nov. 20 2008,01:57)
Even with the new looser moderation policy, I don't think DougieBear is long for this world.

 
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2
DougieBear
11/19/2008
6:37 pm

The fact that Dr. Dembski has jumped ship is very disturbing.

What is happening to us Dr. Nelson?

I thought Expelled was supposed to help us.

- Doug

3

DougieBear
11/19/2008
6:39 pm

Since the liberals run congress maybe they will put all us ID’rs into concentration camps.

4

DougieBear
11/19/2008
6:49 pm

Why don’t we organize a touch football game with some of the pro-gay marriage protesters out in California?

*sigh* I'm going to miss DaveTards homophobia.

Somehow I think Barry A will get a tingle when he reads that.

Date: 2008/11/20 18:07:26, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (BopDiddy @ Nov. 20 2008,23:26)
I just wanted to say, regardless of recent events, DaveTard will always be the king:

Elvis Presley Painting with Cheese Puffs on Velvet - Cheesy Art in Cheetos



Here is DaveTard considering the theory of relativity

Choose a caption:
1. The original 1905 abstract's handwriting is too small and besides it's in Portuguese.....I think. Therefor my own conclusion is blah blah blah ...live with it.

2. I'm sure Einstein said gravity was the strongest force in the universe. But even if he didn't say that, it is still my firmly held belief that it is.

3. Einstein said something about god and chance and I agree with him...oh and Scordova is still a HOMO!

Date: 2008/11/20 20:38:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (khan @ Nov. 21 2008,04:08)
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It's the same with God.  You're too hung up on the supernatural side of it though.  I'm not talking about trying to discover the supernatural, or simply labeling all mechanisms as "supernatural".  No, I'm talking about looking at the natural and gaining insights into the kind of mind that would create such wonderful things.  Now, I'm sure that these insights would probably be useless to an atheist, but to those of us who believe, such exploration is fascinating.  


I'm still waiting for HIM to heal me.  Why can't he manage that?

THAT NEVER HEALS!!!!

Date: 2008/11/21 05:21:44, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Badger3k @ Nov. 21 2008,09:09)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 20 2008,21:18)
Besides, what are these "limitations" of methodological naturalism? That phrase is just a fancy way of saying base your conclusions on the evidence. On what else would you suggest researchers base their conclusions, if not evidence?

Henry

Dude, they are supposed to use their Faith and Religion.  Evidence can lie, but your Faith can never mislead you...  :p

OH HA HA 'EFN HA.

YOU CAN'T SUGGEST ds HAS NO faith JUST BECAUSE THE BIBLE SEZ U MUST IN ANY CASE..... UH EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE LIES?

ds HAS PLENTY OF FAITH, CHRIST WHOLE 200 LITER DRUMS FULL OF IT.

for HIS FAITH TO WORK THO' YOU ALL GOT TO BELIEVE IT TOO...otherwise he will lose his BOO HOO HOO.

his FAITH CONTENDS THAT IF (and only if) YOU ARE TRULY STUPID ENOUGH TO AGREE WITH HIM HE CAN PUT HIS FEET UP, SMOKE A CHEROOT AND SIP A CHILLED HOME MADE LEMONADE.

HAVING COMPLETED THAT HERCULEAN TASK WITH ITS COMENSURATE REWARD (ok only cheroots and lemonade but think of the consequences) HE CAN THEN GAZE UP AT THE STARS AND SAY .....

"SEE GOD AH DID MA JOB, MAKE SURE AH GIT THAT FREE TICKET INTO THAT BIG PINK ROOM WITH ALL TEH OTHER GAYERS UP THERE".

Date: 2008/11/21 05:24:06, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 21 2008,02:10)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 20 2008,14:16)
Well, I'm not around all day anymore, having less important things to tend to these days, so I have to take what's available when I happen to be here.

Poor pickin's you guys leave y'know.

P.S. I'd be very sorry for having made such a lame joke from such an easy set-up, if it weren't possibly true.

Finally, and by a complete coincidence, a lolcat specifically for Lou:


YOU R SUCH A PUSSY

Date: 2008/11/21 21:22:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 22 2008,02:40)
Quote (Skullboy @ Nov. 21 2008,18:11)
 
Quote (JLT @ Nov. 21 2008,17:44)
 
StephenB = pure TARD


That whole thread is extremely dangerous to TARD addicts. That TARD is so pure that the same dosage you've been mainlining daily for weeks could kill you if it comes from that thread.

Really?  It just makes me want to raise the Jolly Roger (in sequins, on a tasteful and elegant stylized DNA helix) and start slitting some throats before these sanctimonious morons finish destroying the U.S. education system.

Or, I could have another tequila....





HAR HAR THIS IS YOU.

Date: 2008/11/22 00:05:18, Link
Author: k.e..
haha I know the feeling.

BTW-image is here

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/28000/Female-Pirates--28120.jpg

try right click over image and select show picture

Date: 2008/11/25 02:59:32, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (utidjian @ Nov. 25 2008,09:10)
Update... I guess I "fixed" that. The Chortle post has been Expelled.

I posted to UD the link to the original on monkeyfluids and mentioned the copyright. It was getting boring anyhow.

-DU-

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ID HUMOR = Error 404 - Not Found

Could Marks or his sychophant be that DULL?

That and many other pressing ID questions remain unanswered.

Be sure you are watching later tonight at 11 for our heart wrenching interview with a female wrestler who has had her 15ft python impounded by a born again Sheriff for parodying a scene in Genesis.

Date: 2008/11/25 03:32:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Daniel how did god impregnate Mary?

AND please don't say it was a miracle.


Daniel do you know how the element iron came about in a universe that only contained hydrogen?

If you know the answer to that then please explain why there is a need for a god if all it had to do was magically create the earth out of nothingness and put iron and every other element in it.

Your so called god theory can't have a rubbery day zero for creating life on earth when it sat around for 10 billion or so years after the big bang humming to itself then thinking ...


'..oh today would be a nice day to start life on some planet in the milky way'

Is that the very slow lazy version of god?

Sort of like Windows Vista on a Motorola 1Mhz 6805 with 1k of RAM ...is that what you are thinking?

Perhaps your god is short of a few transistors?

Deus ex machina Daniel.

Your story line and plot is full of gaping holes.

Date: 2008/11/25 03:49:56, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2008,00:52)
Merry Birthmas!

How old are you in Horse Years?

Louis

Heh!

About a quarter your Mom's.

It's all about you isn't it?

Happy Birthday C.J. better late than never.





Found you a birthday video here

Date: 2008/11/25 22:24:33, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,19:29)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2008,11:20)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,10:43)
On “ causal history” which came first: light, transparency, the eye, the optic nerve, or the brain?

Zero

The bishop?

Old man, we all know the blind bishop didn't do it.

Zero

Trying to collect foreskins again Hero?

Date: 2008/11/25 22:33:28, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (khan @ Nov. 26 2008,04:07)
Quote
So what exact mechanism did God use?  I can't say that I know, but I do know this: It is the same mechanism that you use every day - creativity channeled through some sort of natural medium.


I have opined much and have discerned the mechanism that HE used:

Man is created in god's image.
Man has a penis.
Man masturbates.

God masturbated (yea verily) and ejaculated the universe into existence once piece at a time.

Splooge: Atoms
Splooge: Molecules
Splooge: Stars
Splooge: Galaxies
Splooge: Third rock from the sun
Splooge: Life frontloaded for next 3 billion years of death and disaster
Splooge: knocked-up a virgin in the Levant

ETA: grammar

You know Khan that idea is the basis of many Creation mythologies.

Date: 2008/11/25 22:36:42, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 26 2008,06:30)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 25 2008,22:13)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,23:12)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 25 2008,21:47)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,22:42)
As I mentioned to Wes a year or so ago, you won’t learn
much about Henry Ford by studying a Model T.

That's right zero, but you've got the implications backward.

By studying Henry Ford, we DO learn some of the causal story of the Model T.

We have no analogous knowledge of a designer in the instance of the "design" of the eye.

Bill, so if we study GOD, we'll learn some of the causal story of life?

Zero

If ID is correct, then absolutely.

(Good luck with that.)

Bill, just by chance, if the word 'GOD' is turned
upside down or backward, the middle is still O.
Just a thought.

Indeed ......but don't drop the soap.

Date: 2008/11/25 22:50:50, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2008,23:05)
Jehu:
 
Quote
I debated Matzke on the topic of Behe’s Edge and Matzke resorted to the claim that malaria causing parasites had never evolved the ability to reproduce below 68ºF because all of the mosquitoes freeze below that temperature. Unbelievable. Matzke is simply not a credible source -ever.

Barry Arrington:
 
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Jehu, re [6], could you please point me to that quote from Matzke. I am considering putting it on permanent display on the home page.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....lofsson

.....................FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKK

Date: 2008/11/26 04:59:46, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 26 2008,01:10)
Quote
Barry Arrington: ribczynski,
Did you not even read the post you are commenting on where DaveScot answered your question before you asked it? You are on probation (translation: keep it up and get the boot from this site).

I'm sorry, it's just not the same. Barry doesn't threaten people anywhere near as stylishly as Dave used to.  :(

(wipes tear)

CALLING MR. A. CHATERBOX

CALLING MR. A. CHATERBOX

CALLING MR. A. CHATERBOX

.......OH SIR THERE IS A (VERY OLD) LADYMAN AT THE DOOR WITH A SHEEP NAMED LOUIS UNDER ONE ARM AND A POT OF CHILLI BEANS UNDER THE OTHER. SHE SAYS SHE IS GOING TO HAVE YOUR BABY.

Date: 2008/11/26 06:41:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 25 2008,16:50)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 25 2008,02:59)
Quote (utidjian @ Nov. 25 2008,09:10)
Update... I guess I "fixed" that. The Chortle post has been Expelled.

I posted to UD the link to the original on monkeyfluids and mentioned the copyright. It was getting boring anyhow.

-DU-

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ID HUMOR = Error 404 - Not Found

Could Marks or his sychophant be that DULL?

That and many other pressing ID questions remain unanswered.

Be sure you are watching later tonight at 11 for our heart wrenching interview with a female wrestler who has had her 15ft python impounded by a born again Sheriff for parodying a scene in Genesis.

i heard you had a 15 foot python impacted upindia by a female sheriff that once wrassled Phil Collins.

UH HUH ......AND JUST WHAT HAS PHIL COLLINS GOT TO DO WITH IT...HUH.....HUH?


unless of course U R! PHILL COLLINS

Date: 2008/11/26 07:08:43, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 26 2008,14:48)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 25 2008,22:13)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,23:12)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 25 2008,21:47)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 25 2008,22:42)
As I mentioned to Wes a year or so ago, you won’t learn
much about Henry Ford by studying a Model T.

That's right zero, but you've got the implications backward.

By studying Henry Ford, we DO learn some of the causal story of the Model T.

We have no analogous knowledge of a designer in the instance of the "design" of the eye.

Bill, so if we study GOD, we'll learn some of the causal story of life?

Zero

If ID is correct, then absolutely.

(Good luck with that.)

Bill, I have before me a picture of Henry Ford holding
a rough sketch of his concept automobile.
Using a magnifying glass, I’ve counted the moles on his
face, hoping to determine which part he molded first.
Perhaps if I had all the molds together, it would help
me decide.  I know.  I’ll call a T. O. E. truck.

Which came first: light, transparency,
the eye, the optic nerve, or the brain?

Zero

Hero the Hindu creation myth starts with first there was I who was alone and scared so he created Brahmin but Brahmin was not happy with what he saw so Brahmin created the universe......it was all downhill from there.

Tautology abhors a vacuum Hero ...although in your case we can make an exception.

Date: 2008/11/26 07:14:51, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 26 2008,15:08)
Never use beta. I'm still editing this post.

Jesus Saves <alt>fs

Date: 2008/11/26 07:40:54, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
Light came first, when photons decoupled from matter approximately 300,000 years after the big bang.



Oh Christ don't spoil the fun of the pigmy Dante.

Tease his dichotomy.

Date: 2008/11/26 07:54:19, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 26 2008,15:38)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 26 2008,07:08)
Tautology abhors a vacuum Hero ...

Who is this Tautology and why is he hating on David Oreck?


Well of course in a vacuum Zero would shrink to no point.

However he has trouble visualizing "tripping the light fantastic", "racking one's thoughts" or "laboring under a misconception".

Date: 2008/11/26 09:00:29, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Jkrebs @ Nov. 26 2008,16:28)
Retired non-moderator Dave steps in and moderates.  I knew this couldn't last.

     
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gpuccio & kairosfocus

I’m sorry but I deleted your very long comments. When I have to scroll through pages and pages and pages of a single comment to get to the next one that comment is not going to survive. Next time you need that much space figure out a way to link to the bulk of it offsite. Thanks.


Link

OK HOMOS LISTEN UP COZ I'M TALKIN.

YOU'LL GOTTA GIT UR ACTS TOGETHA.

WE LOST THE ELECTION BUT THE WAR ISN'T OVER YET BECAUSE I SOBERED UP AND SO DID BILL <blush> HE ONLY CALLED ME THIS MORNING.
YOU DON'T LOSE AN ELECTION YOU ONLY.....ER GET OVER IT. ©non sequiturs inc.

FIRST THE EXPANITORY FILTER FILTERS NOTHING AND PREDICTS EVERYTHING

THEREFOR IT IS EQUAL TO NDE™ IN EVERY RESPECT.

SECOND GIGOLO IN GIGOLO OUT I SAY AND THERE IS A LITTLE MARINE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE THAT KNOWS THAT (thats when and if his mother tells him).

THIRD THANKYOU FOR SHITTING ON THE PARROT CAGE FLOOR I WAS TRYING TO ENJOY SOME TIME OFF BUT YOU KNOW YOU MISSED THE BONE. dt

Date: 2008/11/27 21:57:20, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote
Barry Arrington: Croizat and Bueller_007, I take it from your comments that you are true believers in NDE. Good for you. Being a true believer saves all the effort one would otherwise have to expend actually considering the evidence and thinking for ones self. I imagine it is also very comforting for you to know that because your beliefs are impervious to evidence and logic, you will never have to experience the emotional turmoil often associated with critical examination of ones opinions.


Oh Christ isn't that the purest little bit of projection?

Let me fix that for you Barry in fact you might just want to disappear that panty flash....erm it's just a little too revealing.

         
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Barry Arrington: Croizat and Bueller_007, I You may  take it from your my comments that  you are I am a true believer in  NDE (whateva TFT is) ID. Good for ME ME ME. Being a true believer saves all the effort one I would otherwise have to expend actually considering the evidence and thinking for one my self. I You can imagine it is also very comforting for you me to know that because your my beliefs are impervious to evidence and logic, you I will never have to experience the emotional turmoil often associated with critical examination of ones my opinions.


Indeed Barry .........indeed.

Very nicely put, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Religion as Karl Marx said once is the "opium of the masses" however he also said (along these lines) "for some people it serves a useful purpose, since that is all they have" (if you can't afford opium presumably).

Barry if you haven't tried opium, don't worry, it is no different to your current state.

Comfortably numb.

     
Quote

Hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?

Come on, now.
I hear youre feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.

Relax.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts:
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ship's smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.
When I was a child I had a fever.
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I got that feeling once again.
I cant explain, you would not understand.
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

Ok.
Just a little pinprick. [ping]
Therell be no more --aaaaaahhhhh!
But you may feel a little sick.

Can you stand up?
I do believe its working. good.
Thatll keep you going for the show.
Come on its time to go.

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ship's smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.
When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone.
I cannot put my finger on it now.
The child is grown, the dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.

Pink Floyd- Comfortably numb.




For Barry's enlightenment

For the full effect Barry I suggest a very large chillum filled with the best Black Afghani Hash (which has the delightful effect of both opium and the best sens) ,every other Pink Floyd song (moderately loud) a room full of good friends and cushions with a weekend to blow.

To polish off, depending on your progress, I suggest spending 3 months (at least) in one of the worlds best flesh pots and don't spare the horses.

Then the pain ([the] emotional turmoil often associated with critical examination of ones my opinions) will be gone .....I promise.
.

Date: 2008/11/30 21:21:34, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (khan @ Dec. 01 2008,02:59)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2008,19:47)
Or spinal discs that herniate inwards toward the spinal cord? What is the specific purpose of that, other than to cause excruciating pain for no apparent reason? Is the designer just a sadist?

For that matter, what is the specific purpose of the shape of the human spine itself, because it sure doesn't seem optimal for walking upright. I mean, I'm just finishing up Bio 111, and I've never designed a spine, but them dudes in Japan seem to do it differently. I would call them intelligent designers, because the spines in their robots are much better designed. They're even made of metal! They don't break when the robot falls down! Much better design than the human spine, if you ask me.

Damned thing looks almost like it was originally used by a quadruped or something, who one day decided he needed to stand up and see a little further. Lions and stuff in the tall grass, maybe. In fact, it looks an awful lot like maybe the quadrupeds who could stand a little higher and see a little further tended to get eaten less, and tended to live long enough to breed more. Y'know, if those quadrupeds survived because they stood a little higher and saw a little further, they would probably wind up breeding with other quadrupeds who stood a little higher and saw a little further because they tended to not get eaten as much either. Then they'd tend to have babies who grew up to stand a little higher and see a little further, and get eaten less, and live long enough to breed with other babies who stood a little higher and saw a little further, ....

but that's just silly.

Actually, the truth about the human spine is that the designer is an incompetent moron.

And let's not forget that a lot of the 'design' flaws that cripple us don't show up until age 45+ when most folks have already done their breeding..

Ha mere Woman!..... except for Daniels g$d !

Remember HE fathered Jesus Christ when HE was at least 13 or so BILLION YEARS FUCKING OLD!!!!

Add to the list .....not only did HE line up all the little wiggly, smelly things in some FUCKING TEST TUBE at the dawn of LIFE here on FUCKING EARTH with a message to that included

"High there everyone, when you all evolve a priest who can write I'VE GOT SOME GREAT NEWS" ©  one very old naked hairy homeless man aka g$d

"I OWN YOU MOFOS"©one very old naked hairy homeless man aka g$d

Yes not just that...

"I MADE EVERY SINGLE ATOM FROM NOTHING (using 'natural processes©' indestinguishable from....... er 'natural processes©' LINED IT UP BY GOD KNOWS HOW TO MAKE YOUR FUCKING INSIGNIFANT LITTLE PLANET SO I COULD PLAY OUT THE FINAL CHAPTER OF THIS COSMIC COMEDY FOR DANIELS PLEASURE.

TEST TUBE CREATION"©  one very old naked hairy homeless man aka g$d



Daniel you have logically painted yourself into a corner.

Daniel your definition for god is equivalent to life itself.

Daniel go back and exchange your word 'g$d' for 'life'.

Daniel is that what your g$d in your interpretation bible wants from you?

Daniel be honest you have reduced g$d to a figure of speech, where is the praise, the respect, g$d's wishes?


OH I GET IT you came here to convert us not to actually discuss life but G$D?

OK so explain how G$D lined up the atoms to make the universe..

FUCK YOU"RE STUPID DANIEL.

Date: 2008/11/30 21:49:00, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 01 2008,05:22)
Hey, on an unrelated note, how detrimental is choking a peer reviewer in the real world? Like, is that necessarily an obstacle to having a paper published?

Further, how applicable is that to say... oh I dunno, a Bio 111 lab, as a completely random and totally hypothetical fer instance?

I mean, just hypothetically, let's say you spend an entire discussion paragraph on the possible implications of room temperature on experiment results, and then also say something like, "blah blah blah, which may indicate an as yet unidentified procedural flaw." And then let's say you write another paragraph suggesting that the experiment be repeated, temperature tracked, and meta-analysis of procedure and conditions would be indicated.

And then let's say the hypothetical peer reviewer writes a hypothetical comment a half an inch away that says something like, "Are these two paragraphs supposed to be potential source and further experiments proposed? If temperature weren't measured, account for something else as potential source of error. What if temp was good? Could have been something else still."

Surely you wouldn't be denied publication because of momentary insanity, right?

right?

there is no crying in baseball or bio lab. there is no crying in baseball or bio lab.

Hypothetically?

Let's say you are peeling carrots in your kitchen with a machette and it falls into your sock and your walking down the street past a bus stop and you see the guy who's boning your GF and it accidently slips into his arm....would that excuse stand up in court?

Ali G "hypothetically"

Date: 2008/12/01 07:55:21, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Dec. 01 2008,15:20)
Daniel continues to press his rhetorical strategy:
             
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In the meantime, no one here has addressed my original challenge.  So Bill, rather than ignore me again for the hundredth time, how about you explain how natural processes produced some complex living system?  It could be anything Bill. Any living system.  ANYTHING!  (Am I being too specific?)

Yet:
             
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Essentially you're saying that if we don't know the history of something, that 'something' is miraculous. Another non sequitur.

Daniel, although the second quote was irrelevant to the comment to which it was addressed, you're exactly right: it doesn't follow that if we don't know the history of something, that "something" must have miraculous origins.

Yet it is also accurate to say that your repeated rhetorical gambit, paraphrased as "God Theory is supported if you can't show me a sufficiently detailed account of the origination of a complex living system" makes exactly that argument. Essentially you're saying that if we don't know the history of something, that 'something' is miraculous.

But that IS non-sequitur, as you rightly state. It does not follow from the fact that OOL remains unsolved, or that our understanding of the origins of many complex biological processes remains incomplete, that a "miraculous" cause (Goddidit) should be, or need be, or even can be evoked in a scientific context.

Time to drop that argument.

Don't expect that to happen too soon Daniel is caught in a room full of echos he can only hear his own thoughts.

Date: 2008/12/01 10:09:10, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 01 2008,16:06)
Life is complex, therefore Jehovah!  I did it!

Oh no no no grasshopper ........he say "life complex, god simple". (Like don't you just get it man?...here smoke this)

And isn't that a non Secateurs anyway?

oh no...... IT'S ONLY PLAIN STUPIDITY

   
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* stands for Hairy.  this is true but not mentioned in the bible.  Jesus was possibly the hairiest person that ever lived, hairy has more CSI than smooth and it is self-evident that God has the most CSI or he ain't God.


Yair well when a certain Miss Mary M got him and had her wicked wicked way with him she got such a bad rash she had to take  a gillette loaded with  these onto HIM.



She was very hairy too I believe

Date: 2008/12/01 11:04:01, Link
Author: k.e..
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Of course, that's not what Daniel and the IDiot Crew are proposing.

Right, my point is just that I can't see no reason why the alternative I am suggesting can be ruled out. That is, if one is religiously inclined and want that kind of God in his life.


No one says you can't

       
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I believe that there are lots of true, dedicated Christians who are very comfortable not only with their God, but also are at peace with the world, science and the theory of evolution.


....ooops almost the no true Scott(d)...

I have to agree it's only the Straussian theocrats/Islamofacists/Christian Taliban who think that science destroys OTHER people's (read vassals) faith  in *insert favorite big cheese here*

In the very few words actually attributed to Mr. J. Christ who only seemed to recomend visiting prisoners, caring for the poor in their many guises, recommending  peace, fuck the rich and be nice to your enemies I can't see where this hate knowledge business was in his manifesto.

       
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Maybe not all of them, but I also think many don't even bother about the hereafter. They are more concerned with the here and now which AFAIK is the only time we will ever have. Isn't that what eternity (as a religious/psychological term) is all about?


Ah yes eternity only means a long time...like all of a decently long enjoyable life .....the much  fabled hear(sic) and now..... after that it doesn't fucking matter.

For these MOFOS their whole life is NOT an eternity it is a very short nil pro quo  30 second loop on a Radio Shack  Telephone Answering machine followed by a McDonalds death.



       
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WRT Daniel and others like him, we won't reach them with any argument. They will have to sort out their problems by themselves, but Pavlovian reflexes are not easily unlearned. They know what they have and are frightened of the void that letting go of ingrained faith would leave.


Pavlovian reflexes?

I don't think so.....it's pure Freud.  

They fell in love with their mothers....who lied to them.

Date: 2008/12/01 11:15:30, Link
Author: k.e..
I vote AFDave style crank.

Date: 2008/12/01 11:48:05, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (JLT @ Dec. 01 2008,13:40)
TARD

Don’t they see the difference?
They didn’t compare chance and cheating, they compared chance + non-random mechanism (called “playing poker”) and cheating. They knew how often you can win by relying on chance + mechanism because they knew the frequencies by which poker players win exactly - they had a massive database with statistics and just needed to look.

If they just compared the odds of winning of a machine that played completely random against real poker players, they’d ALL turn up as cheating because they win more often than pure chance allows. Hey, that’s sounds just like ID.

IDists look at the probability that something turns up by pure chance and ignore mechanism.
They’d convict every poker player in the world for cheating.

Monte Carlo Creationism

Date: 2008/12/02 03:44:27, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 02 2008,10:59)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 01 2008,16:59)
 
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gpuccio:
     
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I am a medical doctor with some experience in medical statistics, but you certainly are more qualified in discussing statistical issue in themselves.

G.Puccio?

Frothing at the mouth gpuccio a doctor?

I don't believe it for a second.

Why not?  Egnor is.

I've just seen him froth at the mouth (I've prodded him into a misspelt frenzy of froth before) and it's horrifying to me that he might be responsible for making decisions about other peoples health.

While Egnor may be a ignorant SOB he can string a sentence together. OK, my standards are low but I always considered gpuccio just a know nothing loudmouth but to find he's had to pass exams, well hard to believe.

I suspect he lernd doktoring in the same place GWB lernd fli-ing.

Here boy..... just put your finger on that hole where the blood is spurting from.

YES SIR!

Have you washed your hands?

YES SIR!

Good I'm sure the goat ....er Private First Class will be glad to know that

Date: 2008/12/02 04:25:31, Link
Author: k.e..
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Dec. 02 2008,00:19)
It's like talking to the brainwashed...

Yeah yeah says you ......dickhead.

At least you heard something beyond that hollow echo for once.

But comming from a self confessed middle aged white facist male theocrat / god botherer that is PRETTY FUCKING FUNNY!.

   
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OK...

You won't accept any criticism of the current theory unless another equally expounded theory is ready to take its place.



Please Daniel TRY TO GET WHAT THE WORD THEORY ACTUALLY MEANS.

Hint g$d IS NOT A FUCKING THEORY.


   
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You won't accept any criticism of the current theory because much remains to be learned and it will eventually pan out.



Do YOU  have another ...er actual THEORY?

Hey put down down that bible for a second and pick up a FUCKING dictionary


   
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Anything beyond what is currently known is "too much detail to ask" of the current theory.




As opposed to WHAT?

xxx breathed into dust...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


   
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You're willing to ignore all of life's wonderful organization because there are a handful of systems you believe to be "sub-par".



oh yeah wonderful like your wife and children who I imagine you think are "wonderful'.

Good for you...... so are everone else's


   
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You won't accept any evidence of design - no matter how intricate the organization and no matter how analogous to human designs - unless a causal history can be made for the designer.  



DUH?


   
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You won't accept any of life's systems as evidence for design in spite of the fact that after 150 y