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Date: 2006/06/06 15:59:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
"The surprising fact A is observed. "

Surprising to whom? Anything is surprising if we haven't seen it before or can't explain it yet.  It's the God of the Gaps argument. Again. (yawn).

Date: 2009/03/29 01:30:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,12:49)
[URL=http://www.examiner.com/x-2398-Boston-Top-News-Examiner~y2009m3d24-Alaskas-Mt-Redoubt-erupts-fourt-times-Bobby-Jin



dal-said-volcano-monitoring-is-wasteful#comments]Ha ha ha, I crack myself up sometimes[/URL].
   
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Well, I'm sure that Jindal is convinced now that volcano "watching" is "wasteful." The volcano still erupted, didn't it? Scientists didn't stop the eruption, did they? Because scientists don't know anything, and we should funnel more funds toward faith-based initiatives that can actually do something, like exorcisms. ;)

But do you want to be that it's true? :)


Sacrificing virgins used to work.

Date: 2009/05/25 11:32:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (The Wayward Hammer @ May 03 2009,20:07)
Wow.  I lived in Columbia, MO for five years and then moved to Florrisant, MO when I got my first real job.

Yes, it gets really dammed cold in Missouri.  

I live in Texas now and it gets really dammed hot here.  I think that anyplace you can afford to live, expect 6 months on some sort of crappy weather.

Spent the winter of 99/00 in Edmonton. Who's the idiot who thought that would be a good place for a city? If that was me in the covered wagon, as soon as the snow hit I'd say "screw this, we're going south".

Date: 2009/09/11 00:15:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 08 2009,18:59)
If you guys were *really* cool, you'd have gnarly, rad, phat, groovy jewelry that's hep and the bee's knees, just like this:

Einstein ring

Is it a *real* Einstein ring? If you hold it up to the light, the light will bend around it. Otherwise it's a fake, Jake.

Date: 2009/10/31 13:44:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 31 2009,09:51)
Dick to the Dawk Response



Ouch. White guys just cannot rap. Period.

And it's "phattest", not "fattest".

Date: 2009/11/05 17:40:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FrankH @ Nov. 03 2009,11:54)
Speaking of weird things:

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/forum....74&st=0



"Fool-hearty creationists", indeed.

Date: 2009/11/08 00:34:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 21 2009,10:31)
Fallacies used by Floyd to date

(snip)

There's 4 or 5 I didn't include because he'll use them when it comes to the ID is science part.

He also divided by zero and improperly resolved the leading-tone.

Date: 2009/11/09 17:03:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
"Science is a search for knowledge and scrunity of method before firm conclusions can be made. "

Really?

You didn't read the Bible first and then go look for validation of your already firm conclusions?

I'm betting you did.

Date: 2009/11/10 14:45:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FrankH @ Nov. 09 2009,22:00)
Wow, those guys at EFT are even worse than UD.

At least there they first attempt to show science.

Those guys put out crap and then have nothing but insults as they really don't even understand what they are posting.

"The Story of creation as it appears in the Bible has all the characteristics of a non-fictional story and the story of evolution doesn't. So, naturally, I gravitate towards Genesis, and reject evolution."

-- "Designist", on EFT.

Date: 2009/11/10 21:23:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
1. As a Canadian, Bubba Byers embarasses the hell out of me.  (Shouldn't you be in Alabama, Bubba?)

2. Maybe he's "George".

Date: 2009/11/10 21:30:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hmmm... "sorting laundry"'s a new one for this Canuck.


We usually just calling "Moving the Furniture".

Or "fucking".

Malcolm Muggeridge? Seriously?  There was yet another Python retrospective recently that showed a clip of him and some bishop going head to head with Cleese and Palin over "Life Of Brian".  Bonehead.

Date: 2009/11/10 21:32:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
ermmm call it, not calling. Speaking of boneheads.

Date: 2009/11/11 16:40:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
See, the "Book of Pure Reason" guy posting as "george" on the <i>other</i> bathroom wall has the same incomprehensible style.

George F. Thomson has an address in Surrey, B.C.

Maybe they were home-schooled together.

An yeah, probably both fake anglicized names.

Date: 2009/11/11 19:32:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Is it a nylon sweater?

My guess is 100% polyester.

Date: 2009/11/12 16:37:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
[quote=Rrr,Nov. 12 2009,16:27][/quote]
 
Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2009,16:19)
 
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Look at that.  The server didn't explode -- it just lopped off the top of the pyramid.

Must beehe a side-effect of short-sidedness all round. On top-ic, yes?
I would of tried to peek it, but I'm stranded at the Mersey off the parent postage.


I've been chomping at the bit for my chance!

Date: 2009/11/13 09:56:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Careful, Quack, you read like you're getting infected with Byerslexia.

Date: 2009/11/13 18:54:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
(Cartoon headshake noise)

So.. kangaroos are...?? Deer that stood on their hind legs and grew pouches???

All the Australian animal "shapes" turned into marsupials because....?? Something in the water, maybe??

Mr. Byers, I strongly suggest you Google "Timecube" and read what the author has to say.  

That's what your writing looks like to us.

Date: 2009/11/13 18:58:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Nerull @ Nov. 13 2009,15:41)
Have fun:

http://teamchapmanracing.hammerdownracing.net/creation.php

OMG HA HA HA HA!

Isn't the Bombardier Beadle a Dickens character?

Date: 2009/11/13 19:00:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 13 2009,16:54)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 13 2009,16:50)
 
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The normal pH of human arterial blood is approximately 7.40 (normal range is 7.35–7.45), a weakly alkaline solution.

- from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood

A quick Google provides a bunch of stuff on this acid-alkaline anti-cancer scam, too.

Naturally, skeptical sites are further down the google hit list.

Just like "The Flintstones", "The Andromeda Strain" was a documentary.

Date: 2009/11/13 23:59:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
RDK: My screen narrowly avoided being splattered with half-eaten oatmeal cookie. Thanks a lot.

Date: 2009/11/16 09:10:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Rob, you can now do some science:

Show how the marsupial 'bears' are more closely genetically related to the world's true placental 'bears' than to other marsupials.

Should be easy.  

"Well, they look the same" was science in 4000 BC.

These days, not so much.

Date: 2009/11/18 17:23:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (paragwinn @ Nov. 18 2009,11:49)
One word: Barnacles
http://darwin-online.org.uk/Editori....ia.html



Ah, yes, Barnacles, the ancient Greek naturalist. I was wondering when someone would mention him.  He examined sea life along with his faithful student, Tentacles.

Date: 2009/11/18 23:13:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Or the devil-worshipping Pentacles.

Oh dear. I'm sorry to have started this debacle.

Date: 2009/11/19 16:46:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 19 2009,15:17)
Clive lets it all out. At once:
 

It's true.

If the multiplication tables change, morality lies in ruins.  

And the outside world never explains itself. Just comes up with excuses like "The dog ate it" or "You're imagining things" or "It was raining so hard I decided to stay late at work" or "It didn't mean anything, it was just a fling!"

Damn the outside world anyway. Constantly alluding us.

Date: 2009/11/23 16:27:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
"Daisy, daisy..."

Date: 2009/11/24 11:23:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
I blame the Olympics.

Date: 2009/11/24 11:32:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (REC @ Nov. 23 2009,19:50)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 23 2009,16:15)
Chicomecoatl is a false idol, Tselu is the one true god of maize.

My goddess demands a virgin be beheaded, and blood spilled over her alter.  The body is then flayed, and her skin worn in a ceremony.  

Failure to comply=famine.

You sure you want to mess with that?

My goddess just asks me to make cookies once in a while.  You guys are whipped.

Date: 2009/11/24 11:36:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (RDK @ Nov. 24 2009,09:18)
Speaking of wingnuts...is it just me, or does Ken Ham have a weird aura about him?  He just gives me the heebie-jeebies.  Every time I see a picture of him I get the feeling he's going to touch me inappropriately.


http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo

Date: 2009/11/24 11:39:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (damitall @ Nov. 24 2009,03:14)
I may of course be wrong, but I believe Our Robert is Canadian.

If so, Canada has something to answer for, having foisted both this tard-twat AND Densey on to the world.

Hey, we gave you Kim Cattrall. I figure we're even.

Date: 2009/11/24 11:52:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 24 2009,11:43)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 24 2009,11:39)
 
Quote (damitall @ Nov. 24 2009,03:14)
I may of course be wrong, but I believe Our Robert is Canadian.

If so, Canada has something to answer for, having foisted both this tard-twat AND Densey on to the world.

Hey, we gave you Kim Cattrall. I figure we're even.

Yeah, but you also gave the world Bryan Adams and Celine Dion.  Those are practically capital crimes.

Tru dat. um... basketball? Leslie Neilsen? Frederick Banting? Terminals for the underground railroad? Half the NHL players?

Date: 2009/11/24 14:59:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Feelin' the love.

Date: 2009/11/25 14:35:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 24 2009,15:07)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 24 2009,14:59)
Feelin' the love.

Yeah, all that is swell, but Celine-freaking-Dion?

Exhibit 1

The United States of 'merka rests its case.

(pat, pat) There, there. Sometimes these things happen. Just let it go, man.

Date: 2009/11/25 17:58:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 25 2009,14:40)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 25 2009,14:35)
   
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 24 2009,15:07)
       
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 24 2009,14:59)
Feelin' the love.

Yeah, all that is swell, but Celine-freaking-Dion?

Exhibit 1

The United States of 'merka rests its case.

(pat, pat) There, there. Sometimes these things happen. Just let it go, man.

I will say this about you Canadians.  You are closer to being honorary Americans than the British, who gave us this guy.

Is it just me or does he look like a young Rick Moranis. (You're welcome for him too, by the way)

Brits also gave you Clapton, Lennon, Beck, Page, Emma Thompson, Diana Rigg, Sean Connery, Black Adder, Red Dwarf, and of course MPFC...  you just gotta take the bad with the good, old shoe.

... honorary americans? We should be grateful? :-)

Date: 2009/11/26 01:17:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 25 2009,23:53)
 
Quote
Stephen Meyer shares the TARD with the masses.


Wow! There's a shitload of T.A.R.D in the comments! But with all due recognition, it was a T.A.R.D article to start with...

A tardicle!

Date: 2009/11/26 01:21:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 25 2009,18:25)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 25 2009,17:58)
... honorary americans? We should be grateful? :-)

Of course, but I know you will never admit it.

Sorry

Date: 2009/11/26 16:57:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 26 2009,15:51)
Granny Tard throws her Depends diaper in the H. floresiensis ring here:


 
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For what it is worth, I also don’t believe that Flores man is really a separate human species, because I have seen proportionately formed women on the streets of Toronto who were not more than one metre tall.


Lol. Yeah, that's how Tardscience is done. Good job, Densey.


A woman 39.5" tall, with normal adult proportions?

Denyse now has her doctorate in MSU.

Date: 2009/11/26 17:01:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Nov. 26 2009,11:35)
For Thanksgiving dinner this year we bought a Canadian marsupial turkey.  Ideal for that cornbread and sage stuffing!

We do things differently up here

Date: 2009/12/02 23:58:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 02 2009,23:23)
 
Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 02 2009,22:17)
 
Quote
Denise, I’d love to share my theory here, but



Let me guess - It only works in the dark.

it's not that, it's just that it breaks when she looks at it in the light.

Like the invisible boy from Mystery Men, who is only invisible when no-one's looking.

Date: 2009/12/04 14:44:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Y'all know where this "inquiry" is head, dontcha.

Date: 2009/12/06 21:27:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
That's a typo. Nevi called it a skidmark, not a landmark.

Date: 2009/12/06 21:29:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Dec. 06 2009,07:06)
 
Quote (dvunkannon @ Dec. 05 2009,19:13)
Nakashima was hoping to be depicted in comics as character something closer to Will Eisner's Spirit. ...


I'm not usually into hero worshipping, but today is St Nicholas' day.

Damn, you got some skillz, sister.

Date: 2009/12/07 09:43:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
The "inquiry" train is slowly coming off the rails...

Date: 2009/12/07 09:45:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Dec. 07 2009,05:43)
While the cdesign proponentsists are arguing that ID is not religious at all, Gil Dodgen derails the thread and jumps at the occasion to witness:
   
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... In my case I went one step further than Flew and became a Christian, based on what I perceived to be an accurate depiction of the human condition as elucidated by Judeo-Christian theology (i.e., made in the image of God but in a fallen state, with no hope of rescuing ourselves in our own strength). I saw this condition in myself after some brutally honest introspection, ...
There was another major factor, of course, but that is another story.
I do hope nobody bites and asks to hear the other story.
http://tinyurl.com/y9upow9

What an arrogant turd!

"I had problems, therefore the entire human race is in need of salvation."

Sad, really.

Date: 2009/12/07 15:23:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Who were the first two eagles and what happened to them?  Lost with Legio XII Fulminata?

Date: 2009/12/08 10:24:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 08 2009,10:06)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Dec. 08 2009,08:22)
Quote
As for the "comrades lobbying" mentioned above: Could it be that the dimwit is speculating about a Marxist affiliation?

jerry proves me wrong:
 
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Obama got into Harvard through his Black Muslim connections.

http://tinyurl.com/yzqwu6h

No he doesn't. Don't you know that all Black Muslims are Marxist Devil Worshiping Atheist Church Burning Ebola Spreading Baby Eating Fascists on a daily basis? Most are even uppity Feminists.

He just elaborated, that's all.

By the way, welcome to the club.

And clearly Harvard Law School is a breeding ground for such type.

Date: 2009/12/08 15:39:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 23 2009,10:34)
 
Quote (Ptaylor @ Oct. 23 2009,02:05)
I may be late to the party on this one, but I have noticed there is no mention of Expelled on Stein's site's filmography page any more, and no direct mention anywhere else on the site that I can find. Has Ben expelled Expelled?
(Or is this old news?)

Jeez... I hate like hell to stick up for Stein, but your link says it was last updated in 2/07... before the release of the Blockbuster Smash Christian Church Basement Hit, Expelled.

"Expelled" is in our local Superstore bargain bin for CDN$5.99 (that's about 30 cents US), next to "Blood Diamond" and "Burning Yule Log 2 Hour CD".

Date: 2009/12/08 18:06:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Somehow I think the burning Yule log would have more educational content.

Date: 2009/12/08 19:38:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
One might almost say more information.

Date: 2009/12/09 00:52:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
HA HA THIS IS YOU

Date: 2009/12/09 13:21:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
What about the South American marsupials, Byers? How do you explain the oldest marsupial fossils are from South America, and the next oldest are not from Australia, but Antarctica?  And they're not piled up in a single generation either.

You do know everyone's laughing at you, right?

Date: 2009/12/09 13:27:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Dear me. I haven't been following this thread long but already I see that Jerry "debates" like a 10th grade chess club nerd (Been there, done that).

Date: 2009/12/10 14:51:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
Design proponents have offered ways to measure probability in particular when it comes to detecting specified complexity (something that is both complex [not reproduced easily by chance] and specified [independently given pattern].


And yet, for some reason, they've never actually, you know, done the measurement.  What are the units, and how do you apply them? Come on, inquiry, the Nobel awaits!

What's the CSI rating of E. coli K-12? Drosophila melanogaster?  The slippers I'm wearing?

You clearly know fuck all about how evolution actually works. You got all your misinformation from creationist literature, didn't you?

Are you going to play the "no transitional fossils" card, too? (That card is a joker, by the way)

How about C-decay?  Vapour canopy? 2LOT?

Dude, just admit it. You think GODDIDIT is an explanation because that's the explanation you want to be true.  Well guess what: reality doesn't give a flying what you want.

Grow up.

Date: 2009/12/10 14:54:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Robin: he calls himself Jon Stewart. I had no idea who you meant for a second there. :-)

Date: 2009/12/10 16:19:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
... unless you meant jon stewart mill...

Date: 2009/12/11 17:04:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Bleh.

I haven't figured out how to use this format to juxtapose the pictures of Stephen C. Meyer and Jack McBrayer.  

So imagine them side by side.

"Just sayin'"

Date: 2009/12/11 20:47:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Horse apples: Maclura pomifera, or road apples?

Date: 2009/12/11 20:55:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 11 2009,17:24)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 11 2009,17:04)
Bleh.

I haven't figured out how to use this format to juxtapose the pictures of Stephen C. Meyer and Jack McBrayer.  

So imagine them side by side.

"Just sayin'"


Spot the difference!



Nice.

In one episode he was offered coffee.

"I don't drink hot beverages, that's the Devil's temperature."

:-)

Date: 2009/12/13 11:33:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 13 2009,08:42)
For safekeeping:  

 
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Robert Deyes: For seasoned biologist David Deamer the realization of implausibility, at least for a direct volcanic origin, comes from his own direct observations …

This is what Deamer said:

 
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J. P. Dworkin, D. W. Deamer, S. A. Sandford, and L. J. Allamandola. 2001. Self-assembling amphiphilic molecules: Synthesis in simulated interstellar/precometary ices. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA

we report here that a complex mixture of molecules is produced by UV photolysis of realistic, interstellar ice analogs, and that some of the components have properties relevant to the origin of life, including the ability to self-assemble into vesicular structures

And:

 
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Deamer D, Dworkin JP, Sandford SA, Bernstein MP, Allamandola LJ. The first cell membranes. 2002. Astrobiology.

The first forms of cellular life required self-assembled membranes that were likely to have been produced from amphiphilic compounds on the prebiotic Earth. Laboratory simulations show that such vesicles readily encapsulate functional macromolecules, including nucleic acids and polymerases.

In other words, vesicles *can* spontaneously assemble, but not in ionic pools. You were saying that they can’t assemble *here* while ignoring that they can assemble *there*.

 
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Robert Deyes: Whether it be Darwin’s warm little pond or contemporary speculations over life-seeding environments we see in both a search for continuity from the non-living to the living- a search that was exemplified in Walt Disney’s color and sound extravaganza Fantasia almost seventy years ago.

I believe Disney et al.’s results have been superseded; however, their fieldwork on wildlife is still considered seminal.


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edit spelling

Inevitable Disney/lemmings comment.

From wiki:

"Even more influential was the 1958 Disney film White Wilderness, which won an Academy Award for Documentary Feature, in which footage was shown that seems to show the mass suicide of lemmings.[10] In more recent times, the myth is well-known as the basis for the failed Apple Computer 1985 Super Bowl commercial Lemmings and the popular 1991 video game Lemmings, in which the player must stop the lemmings from mindlessly marching over cliffs or into traps. A Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary, Cruel Camera, found that the lemmings used for White Wilderness were flown from Hudson Bay to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where they did not jump off the cliff, but in fact were launched off the cliff using a turntable.[11]"


Busted thanks to your chillin' Canadian friends.

Date: 2009/12/13 11:41:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 13 2009,10:52)
When I was a teen I belonged to the L-5 Society. :)

Rama!

Narrated by Bill Moyers?

I was always more a fan of L7 myself.

Date: 2009/12/17 13:17:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 17 2009,10:49)
   
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 14 2009,14:39)
I note that the largest viable replacement for bad coal is nuclear. I will believe that people are serious about CO2 when opposition to nukes diminishes.

I'm a little bitter about this because my home town geared up to build offshore nukes, got frozen out by Luddites, and wound up selling the industrial infrastructure to China at garage sale prices.

I view "Luddite" in this instance as an appellation bearing honor.  Lots of enlightened people view industrial society as a mistake.

What? How dare you? Capitalist industrialism is a cultural inevitability, the goal toward which all social evolution strives!!!11!!!  We must bring the TRUTH to the agrarian socialists!!! Enclose the commons!!!111!!!

Date: 2009/12/17 19:11:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ Dec. 17 2009,14:34)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 17 2009,13:17)
     
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 17 2009,10:49)
         
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 14 2009,14:39)
I note that the largest viable replacement for bad coal is nuclear. I will believe that people are serious about CO2 when opposition to nukes diminishes.

I'm a little bitter about this because my home town geared up to build offshore nukes, got frozen out by Luddites, and wound up selling the industrial infrastructure to China at garage sale prices.

I view "Luddite" in this instance as an appellation bearing honor.  Lots of enlightened people view industrial society as a mistake.

What? How dare you? Capitalist industrialism is a cultural inevitability, the goal toward which all social evolution strives!!!11!!!  We must bring the TRUTH to the agrarian socialists!!! Enclose the commons!!!111!!!

I am uncertain about how serious you are about this.
...



Not.


 
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IMHO, human civilization may be the most risky experiment in the entire history of evolution. But what the heck, life on this planet is doomed anyway, even if there still are lots of time left


That's the spirit!

Date: 2009/12/17 19:17:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolution_going_great_reports

From the same place.

Date: 2009/12/18 09:52:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'm just looking forward to the revenue generated all year round from tolls on the Northwest Passage. Oh, and lounging on balmy Long Beach, BC, with a pina colada, in February.

We are the current mass extinction event. It remains to be seen whether we ourselves will live through it or not.

(edit: "current" rather than "next")

Date: 2009/12/18 17:40:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
What?

Either a static pattern, or chaos?

Well, I guess music's fucked then, innit.  Also speech. Oh, and the planetary orbits... hmm, what else...

Moron.

Date: 2009/12/22 10:49:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 22 2009,00:37)
Damn, must've missed that post.  Oh well.

A summary of every Bubba post ever written:

"You're all radical evilutionist priests!  Damn you, you leftist, liberal, democrat, hippie, tree-hugging environmentalist, commie, pinko sons of DiTcHeS and your micro-phones -chips -soft -scopes!"

Come on now, Bubba.  Everyone here has played your creationist waltz for the past couple months.  Now present some evidence.  I'm sure there's at least one or two books over there on the Byers farm, isn't there?  Crack one open.  For us.

Edit: sons of ditches has a nice ring to it; I think Dennis is on to something here.  Who knew that wet rag could start a trend!

You forgot "feminazi".

Date: 2009/12/22 20:00:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 22 2009,13:00)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 22 2009,12:47)
Here's his latest business 'idea'



http://www.engadget.com/2009....-pretty

Sun (owners of open office) have told him not to use the logo any more...

OMG, it's The Incredible Vox Controller!  The mouse for people with incredibly small penises.

Has he explained what all those fancy buttons do yet?  Or are they just for show?

Can't remember who it is now, but there's a guitar demo on youtube where the guy's pointing at all his controls and says stuff like "This one controls the temperature of the sun / how many people die in a day..."

Date: 2009/12/22 20:09:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
John Petrucci.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs

Date: 2009/12/22 20:24:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
I wonder if notedscholar is actually Maddox.  The same level of over-the-top silliness.

Date: 2009/12/23 13:33:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dr.GH @ Dec. 23 2009,10:30)
   
Quote (ppb @ Dec. 23 2009,07:57)
 No, that whole "Paul is dead" thing is just a rumor.

Yeah, In fact Paul outlived John, and George.

Hmm... Paul and Ringo... bass and drums... Entwhistle and Moon are gone... whaddaya think? Peter, Paul, Roger, and Ringo? Could work...

Date: 2009/12/23 13:39:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Dec. 23 2009,11:45)
Someone needs to ask the Udiots why teh dezinner didn't give humans the same fancy genitalia that ducks have!

Carl Zimmer explains duck penises, with videos.

They just show the little guy some duck porn and whispered dirty duck stories in his ear.

Date: 2009/12/23 13:44:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reg @ Dec. 23 2009,11:27)
Darwin was wrong! About boulders, and his being wrong held back our understanding of South American boulders all the way until there were better surveys.
   
Quote
Charles Darwin never escaped uniformitarianism. It pervaded his geology – as is apparent from the example before us here. It entered his thinking about biological transformation: the natural selection of small incremental variations. (Unfortunately, this constraint is still with us today, as Darwinians are unwilling to concede anything significant to the theory of punctuated equilibrium or to evo-devo.)

Yeah, those Darwinians just won't concede anything to evo-devo. It goes on:
   
Quote
For more – on why ID thinking is essential for the scholarly world to be healthy – go here.

Because without being able to say "How could that ever happen? ... Magic man done it!" science dies.

The author of this piece is David Tyler of the Young Earth creationist Biblical Creation Society. As well as thinking the boulders Darwin was wrong about are 6,000 years old he's quite the authority on Polar Bears, so would enjoy a cup of COFFEEE!!! with O'Leary:
   
Quote
Research has led, at least for animals, to locating the ‘created kind’ typically at the family level of classification (Scherer, 1993). This implies, in the case of bears, that the Ursidae species are all descended from one created kind represented by two animals on the Ark. The evidence for this has been discussed previously by the author (Tyler, 1997).

For further lols, he continues:
 
Quote
The rapidity with which specialized adaptations occurred after the Flood is a consequence of created complexity. We can infer that God created the kinds with adaptation in mind. This is becoming more widely discussed.

Great. More Cargo Cult Science.  Someone should tell these guys if they just build a runway in the jungle, and a bamboo control tower, Jesus will come back.

Date: 2009/12/23 18:11:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FloydLee @ Dec. 23 2009,15:37)
Quote
Of course, the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.

John Lennon's famous declaration, of course.

Btw, this is the same John Lennon who privately asked for spiritual help from the late evangelist Oral Roberts.  

Rev. Roberts sent a private reply to Lennon.  The media apparently never found out about this.  Would you like to know exactly what that reply was, and would you lke to find out what happened to Lennon afterwards?  

If so, please check this out:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/januaryweb-only/001-22.0.html

Floyd Lee

So he dabbled in Christianity like everything else.  Jesus had some good ideas.  So did Buddha. So did K'ung Fu-tzu.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69569

Date: 2009/12/24 10:22:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ Dec. 23 2009,20:40)
Well, according to Uncorking the Past it was rather alcohol than nicotine that made us human. If so, the bible is right again. It just didn't say that the apple was fermented:



Great, we're all descended from apes with FAS.

Date: 2009/12/24 10:25:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 22 2006,19:48)
Hi guys.

Here's wishing you and your families a happy and prosperous 2007. Although we clearly disagree on topics such as science and religion, I'd like to thank you for the entertainment.



Rich

God: "Come on, Bill, pull my finger."

Bill: "No, God. That joke isn't funny anymore."

Date: 2009/12/24 10:25:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Bill: "Fart jokes are only funny when I put them in a video."

Date: 2009/12/27 13:01:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (didymos @ Dec. 27 2009,02:37)
Oh, my mistake: she already released the stupid thing apparently, though it's only been available by special order.  The "'Zon" page is for a (presumably) globally distributed trade paperback version, for which we have Random House to thank.

 
Quote
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #330,437 in Books


Yawn.

Date: 2009/12/28 14:43:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Well, I can see how it means the end of clocks by which to  measure time, but the end of time? And will it also mean the end of space? There will still be distance between photons which didn't exist in the first big bang, won't there?  Won't there? What will become of dark matter and it's effect on the dimensions of space?

eta correct italic tags.

Date: 2009/12/29 01:48:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Thanks, TP, I'll see if our library has it.

Date: 2009/12/29 01:59:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 27 2009,18:24)
Oh and what's up with Canada being the breeding ground for such robust tard recently?  Dear old Canadia has given us such gems of intellectualism as Granny O'Leary, Dr. Robert Byers, 32% of Telic Thoughts....

Isn't Vox Day a Canadian too or something?  Jesus knows I'm too lazy to waste Goodle-fu on that shaken baby.



Polite Canadian that I am, I have to say: Sorry. :-(

Byers clearly has taken one too many pucks to the head.

D O'L?  Hmm.  Too much sugar in the TIMMEH'S!*, maybe.  Or gas-huffing as a lonely teenager.

(*Tim Horton's.)

You want Neil Young and BTO, you gotta take these clowns, too.

Date: 2009/12/29 15:33:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 29 2009,12:50)
 
Quote (Gunthernacus @ Dec. 29 2009,13:58)
Cornwell's is a triolet - where the 1st line is repeated at 4 and 7 and the 2nd line is also the 8th.  I think that is why it more visually and rhythmically appealing.  Why she had to call out FTK, I don't know.

Was Cornwell a well known poet of her time, or was Chesterton just a stalker of all things Darwin?

Maybe Chesterton was just sensitive.


... as performed by Robbie Coltrane?

Date: 2009/12/29 20:06:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Dec. 29 2009,15:56)
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Dec. 29 2009,17:32)
The story unfolds. IDeists are up for a fight, for freedom!

Gotta love the fact that the LATimes put that story in the "Entertainment" section!

Quote
Intelligent design is the theory that an intelligent being, rather than impersonal forces such as Darwinian natural selection, is responsible for shaping life on Earth.


Somebody's going to educate Mike Boehm, right? Right?

Date: 2009/12/30 13:47:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
I find it fascinating how some psychotic fantasies have such internal consistency, with absolutely no connection to reality whatsoever.  Reading Byers' ramblings is like reading the hallucinatory passages from I Never Promised You A Rose Garden.

Date: 2009/12/31 12:48:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 31 2009,09:47)
 
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 31 2009,11:24)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 31 2009,08:37)
       
Quote (didymos @ Dec. 31 2009,08:36)
       
Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 31 2009,06:04)
         
Quote (afarensis @ Dec. 31 2009,07:21)
         
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Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 30 2009,08:33)
Otters vs. Crocodiles

from that link:  this one time, I was walking home and a gang of otters stole my wallet.

You should have pelted them.


Come on now, boys, we otter stop these puns before they get out of control.  You remember what happened last time?

Sure, just weasel out of it...

That was otterly uncalled for.

Objection! Badgering the poster!

That's Stoatally out of order..

The magnificent Richardhughes joins the fray!  May I be so kind as to ask for your ottergraph?

Hmmm. I'll have to mink about that one.

Okay...

Ferrets better to give than recieve at this time of year.


He was married to Ferret Fossa-Majors, wasn't he?

Date: 2009/12/31 19:58:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Dec. 31 2009,16:58)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 31 2009,18:18)
Quote (sledgehammer @ Dec. 31 2009,18:56)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 31 2009,11:29)
http://periodictable.com/

Cool, good for teachers?

Tres Cool  But they left off Unobtanium, an element crucial to many perpetual motion machines.

Happy New Decadium, AtBC!

Also Warp Drives, which I mentioned on Facebook just this morning. :)

Floating mountains too, from what I hear.

You're thinking of upsidaisium.

Ve must get sqvirrel!

Date: 2010/01/04 17:00:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 04 2010,14:14)
 
Quote (RDK @ Jan. 04 2010,16:09)
 
Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 04 2010,13:11)
     
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2010,13:01)

He's gone off half cocked.

Does that mean it's nothing to crow about?

I would say so.  Unfortunately though, our boy Bobby has the brain capacity of a dollar-store manakin.

Hey! There's no reason to insult manakins.


I think you have to call them personakins now.

Ooops, perchildakins.

Date: 2010/01/05 00:41:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reed @ Jan. 04 2010,20:46)
Quote (Robert Byers @ Jan. 04 2010,02:26)
The thousands of points are the twists and turns of bone after bone that brings about to the human eye such sameness of form that a whole concept of convergence must be invoked to explain it.

Again, you completely fail to provide any useful definition of your system. You've just repeated the same assertions. Nothing you've said would allow anyone to objectively compare your "method" (pretending for the moment that you actually have one) with other methods. Your vague philosophical objection to convergent evolution is irrelevant to providing a definition to your alternative.

It's not enough to say that the vaguely specified similarity important. You have to clearly define which similarities you are talking about, provide an objective way of identifying which ones are important, provide a logically consistent way of measuring and comparing them, and then demonstrate that you get better* results than current methods produce.

You have done none of these things. You've just repeated "I'm right because I say so!". This is a level argument one might expect from a 5 year old, but it's down right embarrassing from an adult.

* better in some well defined way, not "it fits my twisted interpretation of some ancient myth"

Hear, hear.

Which particular similarities are we looking at here, Bobby? Teeth? Well, I guess they both sort of have fangs, but so do most mammals. Rest of the teeth aren't the same at all, really. Nope, that won't do.  

How about the shape of the jaw? Nope. Not that either.

Hmm... skull? Well, kinda sorta, maybe, in the right light. If you squint.

How about "they have four legs, a heart, and a forehead?"* Yeah, that's it!

From this I conclude that thylacines are actually more closely related to hedgehogs. I mean, just look at the similarities!

*esoteric homage to MPFC.

Date: 2010/01/05 16:52:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
"Workin' in a tard mine, goin' down down..."

Date: 2010/01/07 09:42:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
So WTF is a "biblical boundary"???

You guys/gals do know nothing is going to change this clown's mind, right? He's hermetically sealed.

Good excersize, though... I guess.

Date: 2010/01/07 09:51:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Yeah, that's the picture I got from the screed, too, JonF, and I have only 1st year geology for arts geeks. The entire field is contaminated with rocks of differing ages, making isotope-dating pretty much impossible.

Even if they can prove the contamination by xenoliths in every single igneous rock bed ever isotope-dated, everywhere in the world, all that proves is contamination, and the need to separate out xenoliths before dating methods are applied (if that's even possible).  

Still not support for any young earth claims.

Date: 2010/01/09 14:35:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
I have a dragon tree (Dracaena marginata) in my living room. Now I don't need a fireplace, its flaming transpirations keep us warm.

Date: 2010/01/10 17:17:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 10 2010,12:17)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 28 2009,14:43)
Well, I can see how it means the end of clocks by which to  measure time, but the end of time? And will it also mean the end of space? There will still be distance between photons which didn't exist in the first big bang, won't there?  Won't there? What will become of dark matter and it's effect on the dimensions of space?

eta correct italic tags.

Just a quest/ion: ;) What is time apart from its measurement? Phenomena exist apart from memory and our ability to measure, but does time? Is time a phenomenon, like chemical interactions, or a way that we organize phenomena, like "species"?

If the universe were massless, would it still have dimensions? Can there just be space, with nothing in it?

Date: 2010/01/11 10:58:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hear hear, we all send psychic internet healing powers.

Date: 2010/01/11 11:05:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
That's sort of what I was obliquely referring to. If time is another dimension, it (too) may exist without any kind of ruler.  

It could be an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

Date: 2010/01/12 17:29:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 12 2010,14:05)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 11 2010,11:05)
That's sort of what I was obliquely referring to. If time is another dimension, it (too) may exist without any kind of ruler.  

It could be an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

Ah, I see (said the blind woman)! I'm getting this (I think), but if (a) dimension(s) exist(s) without a ruler, what's the difference between that and a singularity?

*brainfahrt*! :p

"Hmm. Tricky." -- Deep Thought.

I should of course read a little more on the subject, but as I understand it a singularity is infinitely dense (like Byers), a condition of the spacetime curvature, erm, disappearing into itself. (But does the matter that disappeared into the singularity still exist?)

Space devoid of matter and energy would be just the opposite, infinitely flat. Or so I understand it.

But yeah, I also understand the perspective that if there's nothing in the universe, it doesn't matter how big it is.

More sparks in the head. Damn you.

This means a trip to the library. Again. :-)

Date: 2010/01/12 17:36:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
So now slugs and slothes(!) are the same "kind"?

At first glance it seems like a pretty cushy lifestyle, but then, it'd be pretty boring.

Date: 2010/01/13 18:43:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Gunthernacus @ Feb. 23 2009,10:27)
Paul Nelson posts at UD:
Don’t use the D word. It’s being eliminated.
Thanks for being ahead of the curve, Paul, and not using the D word in "Explore Evolution".

Holy cow. What a great bunch of god-dodging!  

"Well, the designer might be supernatural..."

Cowards.

Date: 2010/01/13 18:46:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Jan. 13 2010,16:42)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 13 2010,19:04)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 13 2010,17:00)
So there we have it, Dr Dembski is an OEC. The fallout  :D

Can we please all now use, "Old Earth Creationist, William Dembski"..

Create a tune?

Doctor Doctor OEC...

I got a (!) bad grip on realiteeeee....

Date: 2010/01/13 22:33:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
[quote=Zachriel,Jan. 13 2010,17:42]  
Quote

In fact, it was conclusively determined that the plantiffs lied to hide that Intelligent Design was a subterfuge to introduce religion into the public schools.


Nick Matzke says "cdesign proponentsists"


-
edit pees and cues

I think you mean "defendants", don't you? Weren't the "plaintiffs" Tammy Kitzmiller et al?

Date: 2010/01/14 12:05:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 14 2010,07:57)
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 14 2010,16:27)
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 13 2010,19:14)
Looks like critter's note got through.

 
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critter: Zachriel can’t respond as he has been banned without even an announcement.

 
Quote
Timaeus: In the intervening time he had posted several times on other threads, and had not responded to my challenge. I infer that he had decided to drop my challenge before he was banned.

If critter is monitoring this channel, please drop a note to Timaeus that the replies were deleted.

Disgusting cowards.

Slimy cunts.

I wish their dads had settled for blow jobs

I actually heard someone say to his brother once "You're the reason mom learned to swallow."

Ew.

Date: 2010/01/14 12:14:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
To paraphrase CSL (in : Perelandra) "It is not for nothing that you are named Gilbert Newton Lewis."

It's short for Gilbert Gottfried O'Sullivan Wayne Fig Newton Jerry Lewis Carroll.  

Destiny!

Date: 2010/01/16 13:29:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
So I was right, then: Stephen Meyer is Jack McBrayer!

("We're not allowed to drink hot beverages. That's The Devil's temperature!")

Thanks, Robert!

Date: 2010/01/16 13:35:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
[grampa]
We never had no fancy-shmancy sleeper darts when I was a boy, no sir! We used to just fist the buggers! Grab a big handful of fewmets, then head for the igloo and hope to outrun the other guy.
[/grampa]

Date: 2010/01/18 09:37:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richard Simons @ Jan. 18 2010,07:33)
Quote (Robert Byers @ Jan. 16 2010,04:25)
I suspect these tails were needed to allow the varied creatures to look over high vegatation. A unique problem in original Australia.

Marsupial lions had eyes in their tails?

This cracks me up. There was no "high vegetation" anywhere else in the world, for some reason.  Robert really should contribute to Timecube. :-)

Date: 2010/01/18 09:38:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sorry, "Vegatation".

Date: 2010/01/18 10:06:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 17 2010,23:22)
sometimes you gotta follow them around and pick up the poop

2:15

That's even bigger than the Camberwell Carrot!

Date: 2010/01/19 11:21:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
 
It is a trivial change.


The now-not-starving organisms might disagree with you on this point.

Date: 2010/01/19 13:19:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2010,08:55)
I wonder if Bobby will be called to testify the next time science textbooks and standards come up in Texas.  Our creationist idiot board members would soil themselves to have you speak.

There is a Robert Byers who works in data management at the Province of Ontario Board of Education, but no confirmation that he is this nut.

Date: 2010/01/19 22:32:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 19 2010,14:24)
 
Quote
The rejection of the hockey stick means that in the distant past before the Industrial Revolution there was an age called Camelot where the summers were hotter than today.

"The winter is forbidden 'til December,
And exits March the second, on the dot..."

Date: 2010/01/20 14:22:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 20 2010,07:24)
Jerry throws spitball. Hits self in eye.

     
Quote
But the argument is not flawed, so where is the apology? You made a claim about us that does not exist.

"The clarity is devastating, but where is the ambiguity? Over there, in a box." (The fun starts at 3:58)

Twit.

Date: 2010/01/20 18:37:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 08 2009,02:02)
 
Quote (noncarborundum @ Feb. 07 2009,21:37)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 07 2009,21:05)
     
Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 26 2009,22:22)
Jam:
“The point I'm trying to make to everyone is that one can test predictions
of ID hypotheses after the onion of dishonesty is peeled back.”

Jam, what do you get when you cross an onion with a donkey?
Well, most of the time you get little onions, but once in a
while you get a piece of ass soo good, it brings tears to your eyes.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of
Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having
salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zero

"thy King cometh" is a  prediction unsubstantiated or verified until the event happens.
Only then does the verse take on meaning and relevance because, for one, it proves you have spoken the truth, and two... you have saved your own ass.


Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

"Cthulhu fhtagn" is a  prediction unsubstantiated or verified until the stars once again come into proper alignment.
Only then does the verse take on meaning and relevance because, for one, it proves you have spoken the truth, and two... you're in deep shit.

On the other hand, "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur" can possibly be considered a practical experiment, albeit one that ends up similarily to your second point...:)

Similarly,

"Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin"

was actually instructions for the palace builders:  

"Measure twice, cut once."

Date: 2010/01/20 21:24:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Wait, what?

DNA is an inventory? What the hell for?

So... since all the DNA for a complete individual is there at the moment of conception, before all the 'parts' are there... we have an inventory but no parts.

Where do the parts come from, Bobby?

(This should be good)

Edit: delete lengthy rambling quote

Date: 2010/01/21 10:31:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Where can you get marsupial moles?

How about Western Australia?

You could start there, maybe they have some.

Tell the Australian ministry of environment you're doing Science! to prove the marsupial mole is a mole first, and a marsupial second. I'm sure they'll fund you.

You still haven't explained where the parts come from, Robbie.

Date: 2010/01/22 13:04:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Jan. 22 2010,10:59)
There is no bus too short for Joseph.

That's sweet.
Do I have PotW nomination priveleges?

Date: 2010/01/22 13:07:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 22 2010,09:29)
Why we do celebrate our writers, artists, musicians, sporting personalities but not the achievements of our thinkers?

As a writer and musician, I represent that remark!

Date: 2010/01/22 15:22:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JonF @ Jan. 22 2010,12:05)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 21 2010,08:15)
Joseph is asked how "life" is defined. His answer?
 
Quote
metabolism, reproduction- and whatever else differentiates living organisms from non-living matter.

There you go. Life is whatever is alive. Water is wet. etc.
Cakeboy IDiocy.

Life is that which dies when you stomp on it*.

Works for me.

----------------------
*After choosing a sufficient stomping implement.

Sounds like something Philip K. Dick would say.

"Life is that which, when you stomp on it, doesn't go on living."

Or something.

Date: 2010/01/22 15:27:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy birthdays to youse, and thanks Wes for the sandbox.

btw wtf is up with the dates on this board? I'm reading it as next Sunday already...

Date: 2010/01/22 15:29:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
OH. Heh heh. Never mind. This is 2010, isn't it.  Wonder how Roy Sheider's making out with that spaceship thingy.

Date: 2010/01/22 23:58:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Reminds me of a title of a list of books from George Carlin: "Eat Right, Stay Thin, and Die Anyway".

Date: 2010/01/23 19:19:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Old school measurements: 5'10", 155 (+/- 5 lbs) since graduating class of '78.

My lady is 5'2' and about 200.

But: she can fall asleep in less than a minute, while I stare at the ceiling for at least 1/2 hour every night.

It's the hummingbird and the narcoleptic Willendorf Venus.

But I've never found a more perfect match. :-)

Date: 2010/01/23 19:41:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hurdy-gurdy player I know wants to call her Celtic rock band The Hoo.

Date: 2010/01/25 10:17:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Marion Delgado @ Jan. 25 2010,03:29)
And then, Praise the Lord, my daughter lost something in the 2nd floor bathroom, and I am going to become a grandmother!


Her virginity?

Date: 2010/01/25 10:23:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 25 2010,02:29)


"Nobody knows... oo dey were.... or... wot dey were doin'..."

Glad the weather lent itself to photography, and you had a happy.

Date: 2010/01/26 11:26:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Poser. :-)

(ooo! I'm sig worthy!)

Date: 2010/01/27 09:28:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 27 2010,04:52)

     
Quote
(Meyer){The probability of incorporating only peptide bonds (1 in 10exp45), the probability of incorporating only left-handed amino acids (1 in 10exp45) and the probability of achieving correct amino acid sequencing (using Axe’s 1 in 10exp74 estimate). Making that calculation (multiplying the separate probabilities by adding their exponents: 10exp(45+45+74)) gives a dramatic answer.} The odds of getting even one functional protein of modest length (150 amino acids) by chance from a prebiotic soup is no better than 1 chance in 10exp164.


Ouch. Crack in the desk and bruise on the forehead. A 150aa functional protein out of the prebiotic soup is the kind of 'POOF' creotards believe in (a genie creating life by blowing into a pile of dirt), not the defenders of reality.
     
Quote
vjtorley: Unless Darwinists can put forward a mechanism and demonstrate that it dramatically shortens the odds, the hypothesis of abiogenesis is in deep, deep trouble.


How about accumulation of successful inherited traits? Crazy idea, I know.  Just thought I'd put that out there. Am I the first?  ???  ???

Date: 2010/01/27 09:34:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Thought Provoker @ Dec. 28 2009,13:58)
Hi Fnxtr,

I expect Oleg to jump on me with both feet any time now (I say that with all due respect).

Therefore, I will try not to make too much a fool out of myself.

Sir Roger Penrose wroteThe Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe.  It is around 1000 pages long.

Yeah, I just got this from the local library. It makes "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" look like a Marvel comic.

Fins: check! Mask: check! O2: check!

Okay, down we go...

Date: 2010/01/27 18:23:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 27 2010,14:58)
Quote (RDK @ Jan. 27 2010,11:51)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Jan. 26 2010,20:57)

And elsewhere Clivebaby provides:          
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Seversky,

         
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   For creationists there is a very big problem. Think about it. If we find one other planet with life, especially if that life has reached a similar stage of development, then we are no longer unique. If we find many other life -bearing planets then we are not even special. It then becomes a lot harder to justify the claim that we are God’s chosen people or special favorite.


Quantity doesn’t negate quality. You cannot assume as fact a notion of quality by virtue of a quantity.

SLAVE TRADE....IN SPACE!

THE MOVIE

Dr. Clive: "Go ahead and dissect the specimen at the basal ganglia."

Ensign Borne: "But sir, isn't using extraterrestrial lifeforms as a means to our own ends a tad bit unethical?"

Dr. Clive: "Of course not, ensign; we are God's favorites."

*STRIKES HEROIC POSE*

I hear Zap Brannigan as the voice of Clive...

Or Buzz Lightyear.

Date: 2010/01/28 20:24:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Touchstone @ Jan. 28 2010,15:49)
So... another millstone in the descent of Uncommon Descent: StephenB as "blogger" at UD.

FTFY.

Date: 2010/01/28 20:25:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (BillB @ Jan. 28 2010,01:27)
Yes!, we're all individuals!
...

Okay, I'll bite.

"I'm not!"

:-)

Date: 2010/01/28 20:34:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MichaelJ @ Jan. 28 2010,14:26)
I'm not a biologist but from my understanding, Lenski's experiment just displayed what was already known.

Now Behe says that the probability to get from point a to point b is a gazillion to one. What he overlooks is:


1. Evolution is not goal orientated and there could be a bazillion proteins that could perform the same function. He should take these into account.

2. Proteins are not binary as a near hit can have a partial effect.

3. there are a bazillion ways to go from a to b. Behe only looks at a single path straight from a to b.

Not only that, but if we consider "point b" as an island of reproductive advantage, there may be many, many points b.

Obvious, I know. But someone had to say it.

Date: 2010/01/29 11:42:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 29 2010,08:41)
Quote (Utunumsint @ Jan. 29 2010,10:14)
OK, so its obvious that I'm laking in education on this subject matter, so perhaps people could suggest to me some intro level reading that I can do on my own. I have three kids and very little time, but I am certainly interested in the subject.

Preferable, not something polemical, but a good intro series of books into the subject of evolution. Especially ones that deal with the microbiological issues.

Cheers,
Ut

Carl Zimmer's Evolution: The Triumph of an Idea. Eminently readable, not polemical.

For microbiological issues, see Microcosm, also by Zimmer.

Enjoy.

I also recommend Microcosm, well-written and very engaging. Not pedantic but still a wealth of information.

Date: 2010/01/29 11:48:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Jan. 29 2010,05:44)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 29 2010,06:55)
Apparently Pandas are designed, official!
   
Quote
From the perspective of Darwinism, the giant panda genome testifies to the failure of Darwinian mechanisms to overcome problems caused by mutations. From the perspective of design, we have a story of how a superbly designed carnivore has managed to survive the effects of genetic degradation. From a conservation perspective, without human intervention, the chances of long-term survival are slender.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....in-part
Oddly the post was made by David Tyler, a self proclaimed YEC. So when he says
   
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Although most place the panda in the bear family (Ursidae), a case has been made that it belongs elsewhere – in the raccoon family (Ailuridae).

I wonder what "kind" he places them in when they were in the Ark. Oddly, he does not say.

Or how much bamboo the ark was carrying. But maybe pandas were still carnivorous when they were on the ark, and only suffered the effects of the Fall during their rapid overland trip from Turkey to China.

And if they only made it to South America, Antarctica, or Australia, we'd have marsupial pandas.

Date: 2010/01/30 01:51:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Gunthernacus @ Jan. 29 2010,14:14)
Attention Australian Tennis Enthusiasts*

(snip)


** This, of course, includes enthusiasts of Australian tennis***

*** Who are currently in Australia

I can just picture it. Aussie rules full-contact tennis.  Nice.

Date: 2010/02/01 11:40:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
[quote=Utunumsint,Feb. 01 2010,09:23]
Quote (Utunumsint @ Feb. 01 2010,08:39)

 
Quote
Citing malaria literature sources (White 2004) I had noted that the de novo appearance of chloroquine resistance in Plasmodium falciparum was an event of probability of 1 in 1020. I then wrote that ‘‘for humans to achieve a mutation like this by chance, we would have to wait 100 million times 10 million years’’ (Behe 2007) (because that is the extrapolated time that it would take to produce 1020 humans).

This is the kind of mathematical shenanigans that Behe and his crowd are famous for.

The quoted estimate would only be true if every human ever born comes with just 1 "mutation", wouldn't it?

And since every child is a mix of genomes from mother and father, even before factoring in imperfect replication during fertilization and embryonic development, you can count on slightly higher genetic variety than that.

Date: 2010/02/01 11:46:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dogdidit @ Feb. 01 2010,06:20)
Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 01 2010,07:32)
(Sign on door to Chemistry Lab: "No Demons Allowed Beyond This Point")
I believe that refers to Maxwell's demon, actually -- it's a thermodynamics joke.

Droll.

I picked up right away that the demon itself would contribute to the entropy of the system.

It's really the creationists' explanation that violates 2LOT, not that of the defenders of reality.

Date: 2010/02/01 11:50:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
"How do you know she's a witch?"


"Well, she looks like one!"

Date: 2010/02/02 00:24:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
So... um... you guys have all your armies and stuff under lock and key, right? Right?

Date: 2010/02/03 11:22:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
My new sig:

Date: 2010/02/05 21:21:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
So this kangaroo and this zebra go to a bar...

Date: 2010/02/06 12:14:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Acipenser @ Feb. 06 2010,09:59)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 06 2010,10:57)
Quote
I'd like to see an experiment with leaving them all to themselves for a while, without any opposition.


In a word:  cannibalism


Let's do it!

That sounds like a great idea!  I don't think I canhandle eating any more bottles of those pills but I was wondering if the pills are avaiable in a IV drip formulation for a continuous infusion of the stupid?  

How about a time-release implantable form?

Maybe a skin patch.  Or a huffer.

Date: 2010/02/06 12:20:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 05 2010,19:36)
Stanek touts Dr. Philip G. Ney extensively and approvingly.  Ney is a major loon.      [My comments in brackets.]      
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Without the periodic infusion of energy the earth’s orbit would decay more quickly and the universe die at a more rapid rate. I suspect that God, in merciful love, is pushing the earth around the sun. However there is no promise that He will do this indefinitely.

A graph of the earth’s temperature over the last 2.5 million years shows wide fluctuations but a line thru the mean of the graph would show a steady rise in temperature. Could the rapid mean temperature decrease indicate the times when God gives the earth another shove to boost it’s orbit when things were getting to hot?
           
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The earth is not floating, rotating or revolving in a perfect vacuum. There is sufficient friction that generates forces strong enough to:

  1. Deflect the normal thermal winds so that they become easterlies around the equator and westerlies in the northern and southern hemisphere. [Caused by the coriolus force, nothing to do with friction]
  2. Create tides, when millions upon millions of tons of water are moved by gravity twice a day; [Caused by gravity, nothing to do with friction]
  3. Earthquakes, major tectonic shifts. They could not possibly move without some major force acting on them. [Geology is just one major force after another, nothing to do with friction]
  4. Magnetic braking. [Whatever Ney's talking about here.  Tidal braking is slowing the earth's rotation, nothing to do with magnetics or friction]
         
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The most popular hypothesis to explain ROD [Rapid Orbital Decay of the earth's orbit] is that there are too many tall buildings, which increase drag on the globe circling winds. If this were the case then all we must do is stop building such tall structures and take down some of those we now have. Again the temptation is too ascribe uncomfortable changes to human stupidity so that to fix the problem, we just have to get smarter.

This is Industrial Strength Tard.  Dr. Ney makes Gordon and even StevenB look (relatively) rational by comparison.  He has achieved the Christian ideal of living far apart from the universe.

Thanks to Lou FCD for the links to this nuttery.

The tard is strong in this one.

Date: 2010/02/06 19:10:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 06 2010,13:23)
 
Quote
(snip) ... of any experiment driven by any hypothesis. The analysis of these data is referred to as in silico biology, or hypothesis free. The former term is considerably less assumptive than the latter. The goal is, as it has always been, to extract significance from the data: an action, a function, a role in a pathway. But the approach must differ from classical methods simply because there is so much data. The only way to extract any sense from them is to apply highly computational approaches.

(Chiang, Katherine S.(2004) 'Biology Databases for the New Life Sciences', Science & Technology
Libraries, 25: 1, 139 — 170) Yes, I am reading this article for my class (Reference Sources in the Sciences).

I think I need to see these search algorithms in action before I completely get it.

Erm, yeah. Don't you need some kind of hypothesis on which to base your search algorithms in the first place?

Date: 2010/02/06 19:14:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 06 2010,11:31)
And sometimes in ID science research you just have a fragment of the joke, so you have to re-create design it from just a fragment:

... So, O'Leary says, "Rectum?  Hell, it damn near killed him".

"Honey, this one's eating my popcorn!"

"So I just gave him my shorts!"

"No, that's just ice cream."

etc...

Date: 2010/02/06 19:18:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ Feb. 05 2010,18:30)
Quote (Badger3k @ Feb. 05 2010,16:51)
 
Quote (khan @ Feb. 05 2010,12:28)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 05 2010,12:05)
Vox is now bringing his unique tard to sociology:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/01/roissy-and-limits-of-game.html

His new male hierarchy is in all his recent posts, he must be very proud.

What a loathsome POS.

I wonder which one old Teddy thinks he is....

And I can't wait to see him do one for women.  That'll be...interesting.

Alpha Fail, of course.

The only difference between this guy and Dice is that Dice gets the joke.  

Not funny, either way.

Date: 2010/02/07 13:48:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
Snelling, a former professor of geology and researcher at ICR, serves as the Director of Research at Answers in Genesis (AiG) and is editor-in-chief of AiG’s Answers Research Journal.


Did I mention I was president of The Hermit Club? Oh, and founder of Anarchists for Responsible Government.

AIG "Research", indeed.

"Former professor of geology" reminds me of that old SNL skit: "This is John Belushi. He was an aspiring actor until drugs destroyed his mind. But now, thanks to a special rehabilitation program, he recognizes shadows, and can name three countries. Go ahead, John."

"Belgium.... Belgium... and Kansas City."

Date: 2010/02/08 14:02:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (REC @ Feb. 08 2010,11:19)
 I like the arguments against evolution that don't actually consider evolution.  Its like reverse circular logic.


Or hyperbole, if you will.

(Okay, that was a stretch.)

Date: 2010/02/08 14:13:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
That was a bender, all right.

Those algorithms most suited to their environment will prevail...

(Wayne Campbell)H'yeah, right.(/Wayne Campbell)

That's how we got VHS. And Windows.

It might be more like sexual selection: the best advertiser will win.

Date: 2010/02/10 09:58:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Feb. 09 2010,18:52)
So Joy, if Love is the Answer (good song, by the way, even if that may not be the title, I forget, forgive my digression),

It's called "Mind Games".

How a propos.

Date: 2010/02/10 20:26:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 10 2010,18:15)
 The other thing I learned was that all philosophers are alcoholics but if played correctly will  buy you beer.

"I drink therefore I am" -- Descartes, according to Idle.

Date: 2010/02/10 20:27:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 10 2010,18:01)
"Beer bad" - Xander Harris.

"Smart women are so hot." -- Ibid.

Date: 2010/02/11 11:12:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 11 2010,05:34)
(snip)





All taken from my flat...

Meanwhile Vancouver is having to truck in snow in preparation for some of the winter Olympic events. Of all the places in Canada to hold them, IOC chose the warmest.  Genius.

Date: 2010/02/11 17:33:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
I've just got to the point in "The Road to Reality" where Penrose is talking about complex number polar co-ordinates.  Maybe it isn't a sine wave, TP, maybe it's a helix.

Purpose?  Maybe the whole universe is a spandrel.  There's that biblical admonition about thinking we're the potter when really we're the clay. Maybe we're neither, we (and everything else, all the fields of force that manifest as matter, apparently) are just the noise of the potter's wheel.

Date: 2010/02/11 17:52:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
I just want to say thank you for using "toe the line" correctly, Wes.

Date: 2010/02/11 17:56:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
VANOC has friends in high places, it would seem.

I keep thinking of that ERV image about bacteria nukleatin' yer snowz.

Date: 2010/02/11 18:01:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Equivocal.  15cm of new snow but a high of +4 C.

Cypress is historically, and to my memory, the slushiest of the nearby mountains. I guess they outbid Grouse and Seymour. Whistler is wet, too, btw.

Date: 2010/02/11 19:21:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Louis is in fine form today. Always a teat. Uh, treat, I mean.

Date: 2010/02/11 19:29:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Yes, well, he's been meaning to call, K, really.

Date: 2010/02/11 19:31:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Great, now I have Nilsson's "Coconut" stuck in my head.

Date: 2010/02/12 09:46:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robert Byers @ Feb. 11 2010,22:35)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 09 2010,20:09)
Robert Byers:

 
Quote

[...] a biblical creationist must be the first to do it.


Ever hear of "binomial nomenclature"?

Well, apparently not.

Karl von Linne' thought that the marsupial/placental split was more than minor accommodation. He certainly believed in the creation stories of the bible. Why should we prefer your unfounded armchair handwaving over his painstaking research?

The merits of the case. The merits of my arguments based on research .
The confident, logical, use of documented research and conclusions of workers in these areas and then a re-interpretation following logical lines of reason and observation.
In short. Good old fashioned thinking and not caring about previous conclusions.
I always find from acjeivers in knowledge like the famous Arab scientists of ancient days or albert Einstein that one is not to be impressed by what humans have concluded unless it founded on solid evidence.

In other words, Aristotlean mind-wanking.

What you are doing is not science, Robert Byers.

There is a technical scientific/psychological term for what you are doing.

It's called "Making Shit Up".

Date: 2010/02/12 09:48:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh, and the accepted contraction of 'kangaroo' is 'roo', not 'kan'.

I thought you were an expert on marsupials, Robert Byers.

Date: 2010/02/12 10:14:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Feb. 12 2010,04:53)
Not a science link, but a quick question for y'all -

Is it possible to calculate the time that has passed since the stellar explosion that created the atoms now present in the earth?

As I understand it, some star had to explode in order to cook up the atoms that are above iron in size. These atoms would be floating around for a while in space. Then another nearby explosion would start the process of collapse of the gas cloud, leading to the formation of the sun and our planet.

Radioactive atoms such as uranium must have been decaying into lead the whole time since they were created. Some lead would have been formed directly by the explosion. Is it possible to tease these factors apart and make an estimate (for example) that our atoms are 6 billion years old? At least our heavier atoms anyway. Our hydrogen has probably been around since right after the Big Bang.

All part of a back of the envelope calculation of whether we are among the first intelligent life that has had time to evolve.

You mean how long it would take supernova shrapnel to re-coagulate?

There was probably a lot of the stellar equivalent of horizontal gene transfer.  Those remnants blow out at quite a velocity.

Later they mix with the rest of the interstellar medium (always loved that expression), which may or may not end up as a stellar nursery like those cool columns in the Hubble images.

Also, not all stars have the same expected lifetime.  Low mass stars (red and brown dwarves) live billions of years longer than blue giant and supergiant stars. But low mass stars don't go nova anyway. (Ours won't, it'll just get swollen and red and then gradually sort of evaporate into a white dwarf.)

So, IANAA, but my guess on the first question is probably not.  We have no idea how many generations of stars contributed to our current chemistry.

Those "are we alone" and "are we the first" speculations are full of uncertainty on all levels. Cosmologically, there's no reason we'd have to be the first, there's also no reason we couldn't be first.

Date: 2010/02/12 10:21:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 12 2010,02:23)
Here's some "ID-related research":Fabricated Quote Used to Discredit Climate Scientist from The Independent newspaper.

     
Quote
(snip)
In fact, the earliest record of the quote comes not from 15 years ago but from November 2006 when it appeared in a newspaper column written by the journalist Piers Akerman in the Australian newspaper The Daily Telegraph. Akerman, a controversial right-wing columnist and global warming sceptic, appears to be the first person to use the quote verbatim in an opinion piece criticising the Stern Review, which looked at the economic effects of global warming.

"This alarmist approach reeked of stupidity, snake oil, and misguided gospel preaching but was in line with a formula adopted by the first chairman of the IPCC, Sir John Houghton, who produced the IPCC's first three reports in 1990, 1995 and 2001 and wrote in his book Global Warming, The Complete Briefing, in 1994: 'Unless we announce disasters no one will listen'," Mr Akerman said. (snip)



That's how ID does it's research too.  One person tells a lie and the whole ID Noise Machine repeats it over and over and over again.  Nobody bothers to check to see if the quote is real because that smells too much like "peer review" or something else that the atheists do.

FOUR YEARS and no-one checked to see if this quotation was actually in the book?

Sad.

Date: 2010/02/12 10:24:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 11 2010,18:18)

I've always thought this is one of the most pompous, arrogant things the Gerbil has ever said.

No-one gives a flying whether you forgive us or not, Lacey.

edit: spelling mestake.

Date: 2010/02/13 01:39:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Thought Provoker @ Feb. 12 2010,10:00)
Thank you for replying to my post.

     
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 11 2010,17:33)
I've just got to the point in "The Road to Reality" where Penrose is talking about complex number polar co-ordinates.  Maybe it isn't a sine wave, TP, maybe it's a helix.

I'm glad to hear you are still making your way through the book.  Trust me, Penrose has only begun bending, folding and otherwise warping reality.  Minkowskian geometry is tame compared to Twistor Space.


Heh. I still stumble on the e^i(pi) + 1=0.  "Wait, what?"

 
Quote
     
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 11 2010,17:33)
Purpose?  Maybe the whole universe is a spandrel.

Then I ask why isn't everything considered a "spandrel" including your decision to comment?


(shrug) Some would say it is. "Since everything is but an apparition..." etc.

We think things matter because they affect us.

Whether that has some greater ... hmm... cosmic meaning... who knows.

 
Quote


I suggest there is no such thing as true randomness.

A counter argument is there may be no such thing as true purpose.


Everything in moderation, then? (Or maybe just a moderate number of things in moderation, everything in moderation seems a bit extreme)

There are limits to all freedoms, aren't there?

As far as I can tell, I can choose which shirt to wear but I can't choose to teleport to work.  

Quantum indeterminacy has limited probabilites, dunnit?

I see a tendency in the posts above to conflation of "purpose" in the sense of "function" (i.e. windmill) with "purpose" in the sense of "will", as one would use the phrase "on purpose".

This smacks a bit of grade 10 chess club conversation, so I may shy away from it.  Unless Louis dives in again.

Date: 2010/02/13 01:43:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 12 2010,09:18)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 12 2010,10:24)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 11 2010,18:18)

I've always thought this is one of the most pompous, arrogant things the Gerbil has ever said.

No-one gives a flying whether you forgive us or not, Lacey..

Yes, but his nice, Christian boy act plays well with the church-basement crowd.   My prior comment on Luskin's grandiloquent forgiveness.

Cudgel? Hah. Nerf bat, more like. You're right though.

Date: 2010/02/13 14:28:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Thought Provoker @ Feb. 13 2010,08:39)
Hi fnxtr,
         
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 13 2010,01:39)
(shrug) Some would say it is. "Since everything is but an apparition..." etc.

That is a presumption some people have.

Is that your presumption?

After much contemplation I have come to the conclusion that I don't know. It's a possibility, I know of no way to verify it.

     
Quote
       
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 13 2010,01:39)
Everything in moderation, then? (Or maybe just a moderate number of things in moderation, everything in moderation seems a bit extreme)

:D I like it.


(bows)

       
Quote
       
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 13 2010,01:39)
There are limits to all freedoms, aren't there?

As far as I can tell, I can choose which shirt to wear but I can't choose to teleport to work.  

Quantum indeterminacy has limited probabilites, dunnit?

Does that mean you are presuming quantum indeterminacy might be involved in choosing shirts?

Or at least consider it a possibility?



If someone could should how quantum indeterminacy ... er... determines... which of my neurons are more likely to fire in a given circumstance, I'd consider it. At the moment it doesn't seem likely.  And yes I think we're purely physical creatures, but calling that "just chemistry" misses much sublime richness.

I'm saying there are parallels between the two, in that all 'freedoms' are limited.

The image I have used before is a kite on the string in the wind, blown around in turbulence but held within limits by the string (no i'm not going to talk about sting theory, that's way over my head. I mean a metaphorical kite string).

Date: 2010/02/14 16:30:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 14 2010,11:02)
Quote (rhmc @ Feb. 14 2010,15:18)
rehab is for quitters

And Alaska...

Er, what? Alaska is for quitters? Or rehab is for Alaska?

Moderation is for admin.

Date: 2010/02/14 16:35:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Yeah, I have a hard time with the whole dead cat / live cat thing.  

There's a difference between indeterminate to the experimenter/observer (and the math they use) and indeterminate to the rest of the universe.  

There's probably a dead bird somewhere in the forest behind my house. The fact that I haven't observed it makes it no less dead.

Date: 2010/02/14 16:39:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Consciousness is probably a continuum, rather than binary.  Heck, there's a range of consciousness levels in the humans I know, let alone the rest of Animalia.

Date: 2010/02/14 22:16:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
More correctly, a pooh-stick.

That's really harsh.  Why would anyone want to kill Pooh Bear?

Tigr's in for a serious ass-whooping when Christopher Robin finds out.

Besides I always liked Shepard's pencil drawings better than the Disneyfication.

Date: 2010/02/14 22:24:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 14 2010,19:33)
 
Quote
Granville Sewell: I have posted a summary of the contents of each chapter here.

 
Quote
Can ‘Anything’ Happen in an Open System? This is based on a 2005 online article in the American Spectator. The origin and development of life seem to violate the second law of thermodynamics in a clear and spectacular way; however, such arguments are routinely dismissed by saying that the second law does not apply to open systems, such as the Earth. The author counters this idea with the tautology that “if an increase in order is extremely improbable when a system is closed, it is still extremely improbable when the system is open, unless something is entering which makes it not extremely improbable.” In an appendix to a 2005 John Wiley mathematics text, reproduced in this chapter, the author looks at the usual equations for the second law as it applies to heat conduction and diffusion, and shows that they actually confirm this common sense interpretation, rather than the idea that anything can happen in an open system. The conclusion: “If we found evidence that DNA, auto parts, computer chips, and books entered through the Earth’s atmosphere at some time in the past, then perhaps the appearance of humans, cars, computers, and encyclopedias on a previously barren planet could be explained without postulating a violation of the second law here. But if all we see entering is radiation and meteorite fragments, it seems clear that what is entering through the boundary cannot explain the increase in order observed here.”


Pwned

Money shot:

"To spell it out, there's about a trillion times more entropy flux available than is required for evolution. The degree by which earth's entropy is reduced by the action of evolutionary processes is miniscule relative to the amount that the entropy of the cosmic microwave background is increased."

Date: 2010/02/15 20:59:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ Feb. 15 2010,17:56)
Say, have you ever seen a wolf open its mouth this wide:



I haven't. I wonder what it means? I think it indicates the the jaw and the way the jaw connects to the skull in thylacines is quite a bit different from the jaw joint in wolves.

Whoah! That's some freaky shit.  Ass like a kangaroo, jaws like a snake, striped like a zebra.

Wolf, indeed.

Date: 2010/02/16 21:35:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
I do think they're misguided, and rather stupid. But there's no cure for stupidity and they have the same right as everybody else to make their own choices.


Okay, I have to chime in here.

Joy, do you really, really not understand that almost everyone here is fine with the stupid making their own choices, but not with them making those choices for our children, too?

Seriously. Clue in already.  What was Epperson v. Arkansas? Kitzmiller et al v. Dover?  Does the name John Freshwater mean anything to you?

Date: 2010/02/16 21:43:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 16 2010,13:36)

"I'm dying for a Whopper."

Date: 2010/02/16 21:44:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Feb. 16 2010,10:31)
Just a comment: Am getting really tired of snow & ice.

So come to the winter Olympics. Just an hour away we had +12C in the sunshine today.

Date: 2010/02/17 10:44:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 17 2010,08:19)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 17 2010,06:16)
Sal:
 
Quote
In this thread, I will suggest the identity of Intelligent Designer of life.

Oh yeah? Who that then?
 
Quote
“The Ultimate Observer”

And "quantum woo" proves it.

It's the woo meson.

The slowest and densest of particles: the moron.

Date: 2010/02/17 10:47:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Bjarne @ Feb. 17 2010,03:23)
Quote (Robert Byers @ Feb. 17 2010,10:52)
iTS NOT IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER IN THIS CASE.

It is. Right next to the cone of cold and the ray of disintegration.

I just keep thinking of "lower the cone of silence" from Get Smart.

Date: 2010/02/17 18:10:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (olegt @ Feb. 17 2010,06:35)
REC,

The Mental Universe can be found on Henry's web site in glorious PDF.  As to Sal's use of Hopkins servers to access Nature, he's fully entitled to that as a part-time student.  

Let's not degenerate into petty sniping.

In the words of Jessica "Sue Storm" Alba, "No, let's."

Date: 2010/02/18 00:18:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (She-devil @ Feb. 17 2010,20:13)
my bio professor assigned us a tutor (mandatory), and when I went to him he spouted ID and said that evolution goes backwards and totally randomly, etc (using whales "returning" to the ocean as an example) . I refuse to get bio tutoring from someone who doesn't even believe what they are suppposed to be teaching. And I had an english 101 prefessor who said that evolution asserts that when your car gets older it gets better, not worse :O

Does your prof know your tutor is a waste of space in the department?

Oh, and welcome! (Ex-arts major layman/dabbler here, from the land of the winter Olympics.)

Date: 2010/02/18 10:55:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hell yes. Happy Birfday bob o'h.

Date: 2010/02/18 10:59:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
So, science (and particularly evolution) education is part of the Evil Atheist Baby-Eating Darwinist Conspiracy, in the hands of... whom? To what end?

Date: 2010/02/19 01:29:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 18 2010,19:35)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 18 2010,20:23)
Uncommonly Denyse:
 
Quote
All I know is this:

1. He’s right about the demographics. Religious people do have more kids. To the point where some think it a big problem.

2. Most of the people I have ever met who have lots of kids have never heard of Darwinism, or have and don’t believe it.

3. Most of the people I have ever met who are passionate about Darwinism have few kids.

4. This means that Darwinism would not likely survive under natural circumstances, hence it must be compulsorily propagated through school systems. Hence all the school board court cases.

That there is some whacky thinking.

They made a movie about where this leads.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

... and I thought it was going to be a link to "The Handmaid's Tale".

(God what a boring book).

Date: 2010/02/19 17:24:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 19 2010,10:47)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 19 2010,12:43)
Quote
And then ensure they can't correct what you said.


Whereas here I can point out "don't you mean you can't correct what they said"? :)

Yeah, I had my doubts typing it, but Lesson 13 of 'Write: Canadian Style' is "Instincts: Go with them"

I need moar coffee!!

It's actually, "Go with them, eh?"

Date: 2010/02/20 18:40:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ Feb. 20 2010,12:20)
Quote
BA77:
Sal,
For me, I was convinced that consciousness was integral to QM reality when I started puzzling over as to exactly why the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) would form a perfect sphere around the earth:


Snort.  Chuckle....

What?!! He's actually serious??!!

... Guffaw!

Ow. That one hurt to look at.

(Paraphrasing Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper):

"A tard so big it had other little tards orbiting around it."

Date: 2010/02/20 23:19:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 18 2010,16:17)
I don't know about indoctrination, but I recall "learning" some things in basic science that I've since had to unlearn. I'm pretty sure that in grade school general science, we were taught that life came in two categories - plant and animal. Protozoans were labeled as a phylum of animals, and bacteria were labeled as plants. Oh, and fungi were described as plants that lacked chlorophyll. (I recall being startled on learning that fungi are closer related to animals than they are to plants.)

Also while in school, the number of chemical elements was 103 (well, either 102, 103, or 105 depending on which book I had at the moment), and now (at latest report that I've seen anyway) there are 117 elements that have been reported as having been detected, with atomic number 118 being the last one added to the list (number 117 is still unreported). (On a side note, an earlier reported detection of number 118 got retracted, and at that point the number of "known" elements went down instead of up.)

Henry

See? Science keeps changing it's answer!!!1!!

I've been asking people all day what time it is, and everyone gives me a different answer.

Date: 2010/02/21 12:25:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
AtBC posse: "King to bishop six, check."

Cryptocreo: (flaps wings, craps on K4, flies away to collect Dembski-credits)

Date: 2010/02/21 21:19:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Ooo, ERV's here.

This should be good.  

As in Olympic women's hockey, Canada vs. Slovakia 'good'.

(fnxtr butters popcorn, sits back to watch)

Date: 2010/02/22 11:37:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Freelurker @ Feb. 22 2010,09:11)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 22 2010,11:54)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 22 2010,10:39)
   
Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 22 2010,01:44)
Church Burning Ebola Boys Arrested.

They turned out to be Baptists.

DaveTard: Still bringing the wrongety.

From that link

"Investigators say DNA evidence collected at the site of one of several Texas churches destroyed by arson links one of two suspects to the blaze"

What kind of object left at the scene of an arson would contain DNA?

Inquiring minds want to know (or maybe not).

Arsonists often defecate or urinate where they start the fire, to leave a mark. (Right, maybe you didn't want to know this.)

or whatever.

btw, the story says they used to attend the Baptist church down the road.  Just sayin'.  Maybe they were shunned, or something.

Date: 2010/02/22 11:41:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
My money's on "DNA is like computer code".

Date: 2010/02/22 11:44:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 22 2010,09:43)
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Feb. 18 2010,00:03)
Quote (REC @ Feb. 17 2010,17:38)
Everything tastes sweet for hours after exposure.

Only hours? Apparently, I get to experience bitter for up to 2 weeks.

I've been bitter for years....oh wait...different thing right?

Louis

I'm not bitter, I'm just tangy.

Date: 2010/02/22 11:56:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Near as I can figure it looks like a ultranationalist racist genocide rant from someone of Chinese descent (Huaxia) living in Australia, because, uh... somebody died.  Oh, and they had a cavity.  Or something.

Whatever it is, it's definitely broken.

Date: 2010/02/22 18:00:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 22 2010,10:06)
Whenever God changes his mind about the contents of the objective, absolute moral code, and decides he wants us to have a different objective, absolute moral code, we should remember that the moral code is objective and absolute, and follow God's instructions.  Because the moral code is objective and absolute - there is a time for some objective, absolute moral codes and there is a different time for other objective, absoulte moral codes.

I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer would have agreed.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Date: 2010/02/22 23:32:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Way to stay focussed, there, D. Very cogent arguments.

Date: 2010/02/23 09:34:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 23 2010,06:09)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 23 2010,07:54)
ID always wins the debates.

And I won't be losing.

ROTFLMSWAO

"The Black Knight Always Triumphs! I'm Invincible! Have at you!!"

HA HA HA HA.

Somebody missed the whole Dover thing, apparently. Oh, wait, that's right, Judge Jones was an Atheist Baby-Eating Darwinist Mole.

Date: 2010/02/23 11:12:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
From my limited exposure, JAD is marginally better with English than DAEvans. Unless JAD has deteriorated in the last little while.  Just sayin'.

JAD's blog? Didn't he say... what was it.. oh,yeah:

"I have no interest in having my 'own' blog. I do not want a fan club, either."

Date: 2010/02/23 19:59:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Feb. 22 2010,23:06)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 22 2010,10:44)
 
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 22 2010,09:43)
   
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Feb. 18 2010,00:03)
   
Quote (REC @ Feb. 17 2010,17:38)
Everything tastes sweet for hours after exposure.

Only hours? Apparently, I get to experience bitter for up to 2 weeks.

I've been bitter for years....oh wait...different thing right?

Louis

I'm not bitter, I'm just tangy.

HAR, HAR, THIS IS FNXTR


Is this from engrish.com?

Date: 2010/02/23 20:01:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 23 2010,15:15)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 23 2010,21:46)
Regarding

 
Quote
some kind of Scientific Conspiracy


as President for Life of the Darwinian Pressure Group, Delta Pi Gamma, I hasten to caution you about using the onspiracy-cay word in ublic-pay if you get my drift.  Wouldn't want anything to happen to your grant money, would we, though accidents do happen.

If youse don't mind, me and my associates will let ourselves out.

This is...errrr....a very nice place you've got here. Wouldn't want it to...errrr...catch fire or anything. It looks kind of flammable.

By happy coincidence my colleagues and I are in the fire prevention and insurance market...

Louis

I mean, fings break, don' 'ey?

Date: 2010/02/24 09:49:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 24 2010,07:44)
Quote (olegt @ Feb. 24 2010,09:42)
What would be the proof that one writes as Joe G and the other as ID guy?

We would show you our collaborations.

This reminds me of the early days of BBS and IRC when some clown calling himself "Thundarr" barged in everywhere threatening to sodomize everyone. Said individual couldn't even come up with an original name.

Then his parents found out and cancelled the provider service.  

Very amusing.  

Cue threats, veiled or otherwise, in 3, 2, 1...

Date: 2010/02/24 10:01:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
So, you're not a cdesign proponentsist, then, Joe G?

Fine. ID is science. Do some fucking science, already.  All we hear is "evolution couldn't do something, at some point, and needed some interference, somehow, by someone or something".  Or is connecting the dots too much like taking the bait?

Come on, buddy, let's see some details. Which designer did what, how did s/he do it, and when?  And your evidence for this (aside from "I don't (want to) think it could have happened by itself") is... what?

Time to quite the bluffing, Joe. Lay the cards down.  Or are you just going to revert to grade-school "I know you are but what am I" taunts again?

You want ID to be the default position, so as soon as we say "We don't know yet how this happened", you jump in and somehow think this proves there's a magic pixie in the genome somewhere

You say there's ID, we say prove it.

No debate circus, just evidence.

Get your fucking hands dirty with something besides your own spooge for once and get the job done, already.

Show us the magic pixie.

Okay? Please?

edit couple typos.

Date: 2010/02/24 17:48:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 24 2010,08:47)
Quote (ppb @ Feb. 24 2010,10:36)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 24 2010,11:31)
Too bad evolution by natural selection hasn't been shown to do very much.

And as a matter of fact all observations and experiments support the Creation position of baraminology.

In what way?  Where is the research to support baraminology?

All experiments and observations support baraminology.

There isn't any experiments that support universal common descent via an accumulation of genetic accidents.

We don't need to see his ID. (heh)

These aren't the droids we're looking for.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Saying things over and over doesn't make them true, Joe.

Date: 2010/02/24 17:56:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 24 2010,13:02)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,09:50)
Tardenafil citrate overdose you suspect, Doctor?

Either that or Tardalafil.

ETA - erm, sorry, medicines info is what I do for a day job

Really? Can you explain pharmaceutical nomenclature? Or do they just make up cool sounding names? I mean the generic names, not brand names.

That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

Date: 2010/02/24 18:16:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Me:

Quote
Time to quite the bluffing, Joe. Lay the cards down.  Or are you just going to revert to grade-school "I know you are but what am I" taunts again?


Joe:
Quote
What is your evidence- you know the evidence that supports your position?

Why don't you do some science already?

Date: 2010/02/25 00:31:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
What they said. Only better. :-)

Date: 2010/02/25 00:39:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Why do I have this image of Steve Martin in The Jerk

"Well I'm gonna to go then. And I don't need any of this. I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this.
[picks up an ashtray]
And that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this. The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this. And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.
[walking outside]
And I don't need one other thing, except my dog.
[dog barks]
I don't need my dog.

Date: 2010/02/25 10:48:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Geez. Only one thought crosses my mind when I see a woman like that.

"Sister, go home and eat something."

Date: 2010/02/25 10:57:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
[quote=Reciprocating Bill,Feb. 25 2010,03:24][/quote]
It's also in part a social endeavour. There's no universal "pattern recognition", really, hence peer review.

Like the Bloom County cartoon:

"That cloud looks like a fat little piggy."
"Or man's constant turmoil in struggling to free himself of an oppressive worldview which stifles his creative nature."*
"Yeah, that too."

*Approximated from memory.

Date: 2010/02/25 10:58:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Everyone was so excited about invited GI Joe here, I was expecting something more... interesting.  Ho hum.

Date: 2010/02/25 17:41:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 25 2010,15:37)
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 25 2010,18:15)
Quote
Premise 2: But if ID is true, then Darwinian evolution is false.

I've never really understood that presumed implication - it seems to be the assumption that an unknown designer would be unable to use evolution as a mechanism, which conflicts with the attributes usually associated with G-designer-OD.

Henry

Or that Darwinian processes and design exactly as pipe-dreamed by ID could not co-exist, or even compete.

re premise 1, so what?

If evolution is a fact, it doesn't mean there is no God.

Boneheads.

Date: 2010/02/26 01:44:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Joe will now respond with something deep and pithy like "How about you answer my questions, asshole faggot?"

It's always "I know you are but what am I" with GI Joe.  Baseless assertions with zero evidence, zero data (wait, I think I hear GI Joe gearing up for another "I know you are but what am I").

God, you're boring, Joe.  Even Robert Byers is more fun than you.

Come on, say something concrete and testable so everyone can embarrass you.  Betcha can't.

Bore.

Date: 2010/02/26 18:44:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 25 2010,15:07)
Another human vanity squashed:

http://www.miller-mccune.com/culture....er-8507

Gil will no doubt find the performance "mechanical".

Quote
“All the computer is is just an extension of me,” Cope says. “They’re nothing but wonderfully organized shovels. I wouldn’t give credit to the shovel for digging the hole. Would you?”


Waters said a similar thing in "Live at Pompeii".

Date: 2010/02/27 01:18:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 26 2010,22:28)
born as brothers
to different mothers
and now they're lovers.

HAH AND YOU ONLY GET WON CAEK BETWEEN YOUSE.

I don't mind sharing the cake, as long as Terris Clark and Hatcher jump out of it.  Heck, I'll even let 'Ras pick first.

Date: 2010/02/27 01:21:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 26 2010,21:48)
BTW: The first car I ever owned was a 1974 robin's egg blue Pinto station wagon.  All my friends laughed at it until I reminded them that their cars were broke down and they could walk to school or ride with me.

Party on, Garth.

Date: 2010/02/27 01:31:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Acipenser @ Feb. 26 2010,20:24)
Our two ranch trucks are a 1951 Chevy with a 1959-235 passenger car engine that replaced the old 216 engine years ago.  When I first met my wife this was our only rig for about 6 years and of course no AC which  made for a warm ride in the 110 F days of summer.  It is also colonized with lichen and moss mostly on the outside.

The other is a 1986 Toyota one-ton 2wd with 242,000+ miles on the 22R motor and a 5 speed manual transmission.  Great trucks!

Our farm truck around 69/70 was a Fargo of unspecified date, even the primer had faded to a sort of dusty rose / angry salmon hue, depending on your proclivity. Oh, and a BRIGHT YELLOW Dodge flatbed.

Date: 2010/02/27 12:53:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 27 2010,07:19)
ahhh how sweet yall.  carlson that is one SWEET CAKE.  i could share me birfday with a lesser lot!  happy balls orbit day fnxtr

Back at you, sir.

eta Carlsonjok: thanks for the fb profile pic. ;-)

Date: 2010/02/27 13:00:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JLT @ Feb. 27 2010,04:14)
Happy birthday!


Spot the difference, indeed.
Somebody has a twins fetish, I think.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Date: 2010/02/27 13:05:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
From what I've read GI Joe's already baked.


Ba-dump bump.

Date: 2010/02/27 15:16:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Feb. 27 2010,11:46)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 27 2010,13:14)
Uh oh. Ras is now the same age that Jeebus was. We all know what that means.

He'll become the basis for the ID movement?

The bassist?

Just point when it's my turn to solo.

"'Scuse me! Guitar player, comin' through!  Yeeeaaahhh!!"

Date: 2010/03/01 12:47:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ Mar. 01 2010,09:38)
Quote
Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

I miss bench seats. So many lost opportunities with buckets.

Date: 2010/03/02 00:22:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 01 2010,09:15)
Happy Birthday Fnxtr and 'Ras.

Remember: horse linament is not for drinking. Unless you really want to.

Louis

Off on a tangent: I actually saw a guy stagger off a bus one day with a bottle of Aqua Velva in his shirt pocket. Tragic, really.

Date: 2010/03/02 00:24:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
I haven't read this entire thread. Has someone made the Hunter-Byers link? Too obvious to miss, really, innit.

Date: 2010/03/02 11:05:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (REC @ Mar. 02 2010,08:11)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 02 2010,05:41)
Quote (JLT @ Mar. 02 2010,04:40)
 
Quote
This is the first of probably three posts on applied Intelligent Design. This is not an extensive list of applications of ID concepts, but I thought that giving people examples of how ID can be not only interesting and informative but actually useful in solving both biological and engineering problems.
[snip drivel]
So, that is application #1 – to be able to tell when additional information sources are feeding evolution. The next two applications of ID will not be biological at all, but rather related to software design and engineering.

Linky

So, the first and only practical application of ID to biology is to be able to say that what was designed was designed?
That must sound pathetic even to people who believe in that nonsense.

Sadly, nothing sounds pathetic if you believe in that nonsense...

No, what is really sad is going to his personal blog (which he grandiosely calls Bartlett publishing) and reading about his "article."

Link

Quote
I had finally gotten a paper published (titled "Irreducible Complexity and Relative Irreducible Complexity: Foundations and Applications") that I had been working on for the last 3.5 years.  You might be wondering why it took me so long to come out and announce it.  The reason is simple - most people who have read it misunderstood what I was trying to say.


Bolds mine.

Are these signs you should find a new career:
1) The ID/Creationists find your arguments confusing.  You are misunderstood by the pro-misunderstanders, who have no crap filter.
2) It takes 3.5 years to publish a review article in Occasional Papers of the BSG (A creation science study group)
3) Said paper lands right behind "The Serpent in Genesis 3:15 is a Snake"

crackpot index:
Quote
#11: 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)


Sheesh! Then I got lost in the link-trail. SO much ID argument is "I know you are but what am I?".  Sad.

Date: 2010/03/02 19:15:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 25 2010,15:07)
Another human vanity squashed:

http://www.miller-mccune.com/culture....er-8507

Gil will no doubt find the performance "mechanical".

Sure it's great for Eno/Glass material, but can it play "Bad to the Bone"? I'm guessing not.

Date: 2010/03/02 19:19:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Fuck-knuckles.

I like that.

Fuck-knuckles.

Thanks, Louis!

Fuck-knuckles.

Heh-heh.

Date: 2010/03/02 19:25:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
I become a peer after about 3 beer(s?).

Date: 2010/03/02 19:27:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
and yet darkly amusing.

Like the imprint in the snow of some guy who fell down and got up again, but left behind his bottle of Black Label... and his "RUSH" baseball cap.

Date: 2010/03/02 19:28:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Anyway, next year I get to sing "I'm An Adult Now".

Date: 2010/03/03 00:15:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
ok thanks, Ptaylor (is the P silent? as in swimming?).

I was wondering about names impossible for the 1st-year chemist to parse, like ibuprofen, or the generic names for the big sellers (antidepressants, ED treatments, cholesterol control...).

I guess I could just look it up. :-)

Date: 2010/03/03 10:24:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Of course GI Joe is going to turn it around every time you ask for evidence, or even, dare I say it, information.

"I know you are but what am I" is all this anally-fixated 12-year-old has for an argument.  

Pointless even asking, really.  Never gonna happen.

Date: 2010/03/03 18:22:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (snoeman @ April 18 2007,06:27)

I ask because I've always liked the German version of "vacuum cleaner," i.e., "Staubsauger" or "Dust Sucker."  Equally descriptive, and more pithy, in my opinion.


Or "glove": "Handschuh".  Heh heh.

Date: 2010/03/04 10:19:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2010,06:48)
Quote
Yet we do it. I would like to see the day were children could be in a classroom and openly debate on many subjects with a proficient teacher. I think it would sharpen there critical thinking capability and enforce what they have learned. I don't know your views on this but it was a successful model in the past.
I'm trying to figure out when this utopia existed. It certainly didn't exist in 1950, when I started school, not in 1915, when my parents started school.

This happened in my Eng. 12 class (1978), but not in intro calculus (uh... several years later).

Mr. Wagner was all about getting kids excited about thinking about things.  Skewed the bell curve.

Dr. Bullen (tenured? Probably but not certainly) droned monotonously from the book his colleague had written (clumsily) that same year. Lots of us failed that course.

Date: 2010/03/04 10:22:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 04 2010,03:09)
With no further comment than "interesting".



 
Quote
The Need for Answers, by zachstern on Flickr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbgul1NpEA8

I love this.

Date: 2010/03/04 10:26:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Cubist @ Mar. 04 2010,00:07)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 03 2010,06:57)
(P)erhaps you can tell me how it was determined that teh bacterial flagellum evolved via an accumulation of genetic accidents?
For the purpose of discussing ID, I am perfectly willing to stipulate that the theory of evolution is dead, dead, dead... that evolution has been taken out behind the barn and shot thru the head with empirical data... that evolution is an ex-theory. With this stipulation, the answer to your question is: "Actually, it never was determined that the bacterial flagellum evolved via an accumulation of genetic accidents; some folks thought so for a while, but they were wrong."
Now that your question has been answered, can you please explain how one would go about determining that the bacterial flagellum was (is?) the product of design?

I was wondering when someone would get around to this.

GI Joe?

Okay, we're in a parallel universe.

There is no theory of evolution.

Your go.

Date: 2010/03/05 01:27:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sorry about the Wind from the North, there.

- a sane Canadian.

Date: 2010/03/05 09:31:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Skullboy @ Mar. 05 2010,00:36)
Is he making fun of himself here? Is this a Poe? I'm lost. I mean, all this talk about IQ and how he's so remarkable that he can barely relate to people of normal intelligence...is this for real or is he just some elaborate con? It just seems so high school. Isn't this guy in his forties?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-kHB2fWUS8

Date: 2010/03/05 09:36:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
... I’d recommend the Ronald Reagan $20,000 bill as the appropriate way to go. $200 or $2,000 would be too common for the task. But a $20,000 bill would make sure that the people encountering the Reagan bill were truly among those who Reagan’s policies were intended to benefit most.

How about the 3 dollar bill.

Date: 2010/03/05 13:16:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Mar. 05 2010,10:19)
Good a place as any to put this:

[URL=http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/05/if-you-believe-dinosaurs-walked-the-earth-with-cavemen-of-course-you-think-climate-change-


is-fake/]Flintstones science[/URL]

http://tinyurl.com/yj72qmg

ETA: long URLs cause problems

I hear the mountains in Japan are quite pretty....

Date: 2010/03/05 20:21:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Mar. 05 2010,17:14)
Not sure I want to know what happened. Pretty sure those are raccoon prints in blood.

Notice any cats missing?

Date: 2010/03/07 22:38:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richard Simons @ Mar. 07 2010,19:21)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 07 2010,16:54)
5-kingdom system? I'd guess that 3 of them are the three types of multicellular species? But that leaves eukaryotes, prokaryotes and archaea, so I'm unsure what's being called a "kingdom" here. (Or are viruses stuffed in there someplace?)

Henry

The kingdoms are animals, plants, fungi, protista (single-celled organisms) and bacteria.

Don't forget Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia.

Oh, and Narnia.

Date: 2010/03/08 10:42:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (keiths @ Mar. 08 2010,08:23)
Lock makes the case for outpatient mental health services:
 
Quote
I walked into a service station to buy a beer. The young woman behind the counter was unusually cheerful, so I asked her how things were going.

She said, “life is great, work is great, and school is great”. -She attends a local college.

“What classes are you taking?”, I asked.

She rambled off a list of usual courses, but then ended by emphasizing, “…and Human Sexuality!”

“No philosophy?” I asked.

“Oh no. I don’t know anything about that”, she said.

So I said to her, “let me ask you a question. Is the truth absolute or relative?”

Without missing a beat (but somewhat unconvicingly) she said, “relative!”

“So what are they teaching you about human sexuality? The truth?”

After a long pause she said, “the facts”.

“The facts?… The fact is Adolf Hitler murdered about 6 million Jews. It is a fact that some people love their neighbors, and others eat them. What does that have to do with the truth concerning how we should live, and the reality that we do not?”

She said nothing.

No wonder he's drinking beer by himself.

... You don't mention the "s" word in the presence of the devout. It's nasty, and not How We Should Live. Just ask PZ.

Date: 2010/03/08 10:49:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 08 2010,03:18)
Bumbumty Bum
bumbty b

umpty

Is this pervy?


:(

Sorry, no. Keep trying, though.

Date: 2010/03/08 15:14:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,12:04)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 08 2010,06:44)
Oh I'm sympathetic. Reeeeeeallly sympathetic. Why doesn't Lasey Cuskin* come over here and I'll show him just how sympathetic I am with the aid of a rolled up newpaper and a biology textbook.

Wait....did I just mess up being sympathetic again? Is sympathetic the one where you hit them on the nose with a rolled up paper every time they make a mistake? Or is that house training an intellectually sub-normal puppy? I always get the two mixed up when talking about Lasey Cuskin.

Louis

* In the case of Lasey Cuskin I feel it is appropriate to use the JADism and swap the letters of his first and last names. I have no idea what a Lasey Cuskin might be, but I have an inkling it is some kind of lace doily thing, used as a merkin, that's more than slightly soiled. Whatever it is, it's frilly, insubstantial, dirty and more than a little disgusting. Encountering a Lasey Cuskin is likely to leave one feeling mildly disturbed and in need of a shower. In bleach. Twice. With heavy scouring and a quick post shower sand blast.

OUCH!  I didn't realize that "Lacey Cuskin" and changing the first / last first initials was a JAD procedure.  I just thought it sounded funny, yet appropriate, for Casey to be a Lacey.  Damn.  Now that I know it's linked to JAD, I will have to stop using it.  Thanks Louis. :( And I didn't even make a "Louis's Mum Joke".  Well,  not too many anyway...

I love it so!

I always liked "Lacey Cu__skin".  Rude, disrespectful, and therefore funny.

Date: 2010/03/08 18:48:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 08 2010,13:27)
Oh, you mean Casey "Tits" Luskin.

Ah, ERV (sigh).

"Smart women are so hot." -- Xander Harris.

Date: 2010/03/08 18:53:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,14:36)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 08 2010,15:38)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,14:04)
OUCH!  I didn't realize that "Lacey Cuskin" and changing the first / last first initials was a JAD procedure.

How could anyone forget Dilliam Wembski or Spravid Dinger?

For that matter, what about our very own Elsey Welsberry or Falan Ox?

It's hard to believe, isn't it?

Carlson - you are my hero - you must have the World's Best Filing System!!!111 - to preserve and link to some outstanding past history.  

And if there are any new "onlookers",  perhaps from Dr. Dembski's Philo class - I recommend giving the links a good look.  There is some classic stuff, including the Rich vs DaveScot thread, where Brave Sir Davey ran away, and JAD exploded and took over the thread.

and BTW Carlson - thanks!  Good stuff.

OMFG.

The Dilliam Wembski link led me to "Devastatin' Dave, the Turntable Slave."

You guys are awesome (sniff).

Date: 2010/03/08 21:32:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ Mar. 08 2010,18:23)
Creo Math.  Maybe Dembski can offer a course?
From here
Jonathon Bartlett is giving Nick Matzke a math lesson on how to add bits.  It's hilarious!
Nick:  
Quote
“Even if NS can only add 1 bit of information at a time to a genome, just repeat for millions of years and you’ve generated lots of new information. “

Bartlett:  
Quote
Again, you need to actually take a look at the math.  If natural selection adds 1 bit of information at a time to a genome, and does so each day for 20 billion years, at the end of it you will have 42.7 bits of information (because it is an order-of-magnitude measurement).

Huh???
Bartlett explains:  
Quote
Evolutionists often appeal to the vast age of the universe as justification for their improbable claims.  But the nice thing about mathematics is that you can use it to evaluate claims that would otherwise be incomprehensible.  While it might seem that adding 1 bit of information each day for 20 billion years would certainly add up to something past Dembski’s 500 bits, my trusty calculator calculates it to be 42.7 bits (the calculation is log2(365 * 20000000000) if you want to try it on your calculator).

Lessee, using Bartlett Math

1 bit+1 bit =log2(1+1)=1bit   (1+1=1)

2bits+2bits-log2(2+2)=2 bits  (2+2=2)

now it gets better:
4b +4b = log2(8) = 3

4b+4b=3b !!!! (Evolution destroys information. yay!)

A little math is a dangerous thing

What. The. Hell.
?

My jade plant is 25 grams heavier today than yesterday. How many bits of information has it gained?

What complete bullshit.

Date: 2010/03/08 21:34:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ Mar. 08 2010,17:00)
As part of their Evolution Matters series, the Harvard Museum of Natural History is hosting a lecture by Dr. Marc Kirschner, Professor of Systems Biology at Harvard Medical School.  Dr. Kirschner will give a talk entitled The Plausibility of Life: Resolving Darwin's Dilemma, where he will discuss his evolutionary theory of how rare and random mutation in organisms can lead to exquisite changes of form and function.

The talk is this Thursday, March 11, at 7:00 PM in the Geological Lecture Hall.  More details here.

"his" theory? Kirschner's, or Darwin's?

Date: 2010/03/09 00:28:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
(poke, poke...)

Okay, Byers.

Which anatomical principles? Exactly?

Length of femur? Size of trochanters? How about relative musculature?

Show us your measurements, or you're just a bag of wind.

"They look the same" is for five-year-olds.

Date: 2010/03/09 16:58:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 09 2010,14:25)
Quote
hrun0815 at 27, who does not wish to reveal name, citizenship, or tax burden status (obviously not a proud Canadian, but probably a tax burden somewhere):
No one would pull off their boots to walk any distance across pack ice, if they hoped to save their toes.


Denyse just can't let the toe thing go!

JLT - Und a BIG Danke Shoen to you for braving the mind of the Crazed Canadian to bring us the updates from a living representative of The Lizzard People.

Fourteen gold medals, and now this.

What a let-down.

Fuck.

Date: 2010/03/09 16:59:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 09 2010,08:59)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 09 2010,10:50)
I think that if genomic mergers were a routine factor, their results would have become obvious by now to geneticists studying the data.

Henry

Other than the ERV route, how would genomes of sexually reproducing organisms merge?

Other than the Ghostbuster route.

? You mean the keymaster/gatekeeper routine?

Poor bugger, didn't even remember he banged Sigourney Weaver.

Date: 2010/03/09 23:51:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 09 2010,19:47)
Just remember to avoid crossing the streams...

HOMO.

Date: 2010/03/09 23:55:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 09 2010,16:55)
You all mock, but I think Byers is on to something when he says:

Quote
Therefore it must be there is a innate ability of life to react to influences in order to thrive. This atomic code means that when a change has taken place then ones dna will have changed too.
Dna is hand in glove with the living creature. Change the creature change the dna.


If this is true we can mold and shape creatures like silly putty. Why we can shape them and change them into human-like creatures. Think of the theological implications of that - the great commission can be extended to the entire animal kingdom. Think of the shock when all the wombat-men and kangaroo women stand before Jesus to be judged. I imagine the conversation will go something like this:

Quote
Jesus: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to eat meat, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Jesus: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to go on all fours, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Jesus: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to spill blood, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?


It will be great!!

... and then they'll all dance to "Jocko Homo".

Date: 2010/03/10 19:54:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Peter Henderson @ Mar. 10 2010,03:30)
Does the University of Britiah Columbia know about this ?:

http://www.creationresearch.net/events/events%20Canada.htm

Quote
SEPTEMBER 2010  

Sept 20-24th  

1 week of ministry at University of British Columbia


oh and there's two weeks of field trips for USA folks on the Cumberland Plateau:

Quote
OCTOBER 2010 Two weeks of field trips for USA folks on the Cumberland Plateau click HERE for details.

They do now. I just emailed Gary Bradford, the evolutionary biology advisor at UBC.

Ta for the heads up.

Date: 2010/03/11 22:40:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Thought Provoker @ Mar. 11 2010,07:31)
This is getting downright funny.

About the only people left who don't know "ID Guy" is "Joe G" are those who have never heard of them.

Well, that narrows it down to just.. uh, several billion individuals, doesn't it. :-)

Date: 2010/03/11 22:51:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 11 2010,15:58)
Quote (bfish @ Mar. 11 2010,15:16)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 11 2010,08:15)
I think the EF is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

I must dispute this claim.

A chocolate teapot is WAY more useful than the Explanatory Filter. I can eat the chocolate teapot.

Exaptation?

I had a similar thought. Or better yet, I could give the chocolate tea pot to my wife, and she would finally forgive me that one time many years ago I forgot to giver her an anniversary card.

(ONE FRICKIN' TIME IN 20 YEARS)! (WE WENT OUT TO FREAKIN' DINNER. I WORE A FRICKIN' SHIRT- TUCKED IN, I MIGHT ADD)!

With sleeves?

Anyway, pulling teeth on a horse would be easier than getting GI Joe to actually pony up any real answers to your questions. He's got nothin', he knows he's got nothin', so he just does the "I know you are but what am I" schtick ad infinitum.

Date: 2010/03/13 01:15:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
I just watched a couple of episodes of "The Office" and realized that Joe G. is actually Dwight.

Date: 2010/03/13 13:47:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
"When I use a word... " etc...

Apparently size=mass.  Or maybe density. Or something.

So our sun will still be approximately the same "size" when it becomes a red giant and consumes our planet.

Good to know.

Dwight: humourless, self-important, and completely detached from reality.

Date: 2010/03/14 00:56:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
I get "text area not found" on main entries, and no comments box on bw.

Date: 2010/03/14 22:06:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Seems to be working fine now, thanks guys!

Date: 2010/03/15 21:27:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
That must be because

SGgolfball = 0.91*




*&#961 is rho in html 4.0 but doesn't work here, apparently.

Date: 2010/03/15 21:36:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 15 2010,13:51)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 15 2010,21:28)
At least some Canadians can think and do experiments.

Canadian teenager finds bacteria that degrade plastic bags.

I am genuinely impressed! The boy knows his science process all right!

(But the first word of the article was "WATERLOO". I expected something ID-related :))

Sure, praise him now, but when these things get loose and become the plastic-eating equivalent of the Ringworld silicon bug, you'll....

blame Canada!

Date: 2010/03/16 15:15:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Yes, well, haven't we all toggled, a bit, on those lonely nights?

Date: 2010/03/17 21:03:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 17 2010,03:50)
Some stuff...



Funny man.   Somewhere Sellar and Yeatman are smiling.

Date: 2010/03/17 21:13:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Mar. 17 2010,14:22)
Quote (khan @ Mar. 05 2010,20:14)
Not sure I want to know what happened. Pretty sure those are raccoon prints in blood.

I think I know what happened.
There is a damaged & dieing raccoon in the cat shelter on the patio.

Ouch. Really? Road accident? Coyote? Badger? Some good with a rifle?

Otherwise, that's some cat you have there.

Date: 2010/03/19 01:03:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 18 2010,00:54)
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 18 2010,02:03)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 17 2010,03:50)
Some stuff...



Funny man.   Somewhere Sellar and Yeatman are smiling.

And that is a Good Thing.

;-)

Louis

Oddly, my mom told me about that book several times over the years, and I just got around to reading it recently. Coincidence, or conspiracy? You decide.

Date: 2010/03/20 12:31:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (tsig @ Mar. 20 2010,08:26)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 12 2010,12:10)
 
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 12 2010,17:59)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 12 2010,09:46)
(Wonder where he thinks monotremes fit in all this?)

They're probably in the fucking "dog kind" too.

Yeah, probably the bloody egg-laying mo-fo "dog kind"!

And watch out for those thylacines, they are probably venimous as well!

But hey! All doggy so far!

Them doggies do it all!!

Someone has to say it: They do it doggie style.

Date: 2010/03/21 13:07:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 21 2010,10:54)
 (snip) Hiroyuki Nishigaki was working on something very much like this just before he switched to Pachinko.


Hey, it worked for L. Ron. He just mixed together a bunch of batshit crazy ideas and made a mint.

Date: 2010/03/22 08:47:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy birthday, Kristine.

May you have many more years of shimmy ahead of you.

(Once again I looked at the old posts and thought "Huh? It's the 23rd already?")

Date: 2010/03/22 19:28:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 22 2010,08:39)
Thank you all!

But when was my last one, like, two months ago? It seems like they're coming too close together these days!

You blinked. Big mistake.

Date: 2010/03/22 20:40:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,09:21)
Quote (BillB @ Mar. 22 2010,03:42)
 
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,00:31)
     
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 21 2010,04:49)
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Mornington Crescent eh?

Tut tut.

Fairlop.

Louis

Totteridge & Whetstone (Ha! It's still Sunday here! Bet you forgot about low tide too.)

It ain't Sunday any more, and it's the 22nd so ...

Mansion House.

Oh dear God, you're playing Purley Rules???

What a noob. Pathetic.

Pathetic?

Okay, I'm still a pre-novice, but I don't see that one on the map anywhere.

Is it near Parsons Green?

Date: 2010/03/22 20:53:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 22 2010,15:19)
http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Super.pdf

I don't think you can investigate the supernatural, personally.

Can you do it by proxy, then?

What about with waldoes?

...or you could just send a grad student.

Date: 2010/03/22 23:03:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tom Ames @ Mar. 22 2010,20:24)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 22 2010,18:40)
     
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,09:21)
     
Quote (BillB @ Mar. 22 2010,03:42)
         
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,00:31)
             
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 21 2010,04:49)
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Mornington Crescent eh?

Tut tut.

Fairlop.

Louis

Totteridge & Whetstone (Ha! It's still Sunday here! Bet you forgot about low tide too.)

It ain't Sunday any more, and it's the 22nd so ...

Mansion House.

Oh dear God, you're playing Purley Rules???

What a noob. Pathetic.

Pathetic?

Okay, I'm still a pre-novice, but I don't see that one on the map anywhere.

Is it near Parsons Green?

I see what you're doing. Screw you guys.

Dollis Hill.




(cough)daylightsavingstime(cough cough)

(I'll wait my turn)

Date: 2010/03/23 08:52:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 23 2010,04:24)
Quote (DiEb @ Mar. 23 2010,04:20)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 22 2010,23:03)
   
Quote (Tom Ames @ Mar. 22 2010,20:24)
         
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 22 2010,18:40)
           
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,09:21)
           
Quote (BillB @ Mar. 22 2010,03:42)
               
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 22 2010,00:31)
                   
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 21 2010,04:49)
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Mornington Crescent eh?

Tut tut.

Fairlop.

Louis

Totteridge & Whetstone (Ha! It's still Sunday here! Bet you forgot about low tide too.)

It ain't Sunday any more, and it's the 22nd so ...

Mansion House.

Oh dear God, you're playing Purley Rules???

What a noob. Pathetic.

Pathetic?

Okay, I'm still a pre-novice, but I don't see that one on the map anywhere.

Is it near Parsons Green?

I see what you're doing. Screw you guys.

Dollis Hill.




(cough)daylightsavingstime(cough cough)

(I'll wait my turn)

Sorry to mention the obvious: Standard Greenwich Rule. Daylight-saving-time is unobserved  in correspondence Mornington Crescent.

[Polite applause]

(looks around innocently)Who said anything about daylight savings time?

Date: 2010/03/23 18:14:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 23 2010,16:00)
Quote (khan @ Mar. 23 2010,13:29)
Congratulations!

(All babies look like Winston Churchill.)

And Nikita Khrushchev, and Dwight Eisenhower.

Or Yoda.

Date: 2010/03/23 18:58:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 23 2010,11:12)
I have just found out that Erasmus's new baby daughter just entered the world yesterday!

I know I predicted earlier that the child would look just like their mailman, but I want to say here and now that this was cruel, groundless innuendo. If Ras shares any pictures, you will see that in fact she's a dead ringer for the guy who comes round once a month to read the meter.

Congratulations!

Congratulations, 'Ras.

Don't worry, you can catch up on your sleep when the little rascal is between 5 and 12.

Date: 2010/03/23 19:17:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 23 2010,11:53)

Both.

Fairlop.

Louis


So you said. Repetition, lose a turn or restart at Rickmansworth. (viz. Rosenkrantz Amendment, 1967)

Quote


P.S. In honour of Steve Story I do think all further MC play should be moved to the relevant thread. This thread probably also contains a reproduction of the rules.


Right...erm... where's that, then?

Date: 2010/03/23 20:12:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 23 2010,18:01)
Nice response to Granville Sewell's Everything Simulator Disproves Evolution Experiment.

Quote
Granville Sewell: In a 2000 Mathematical Intelligencer article, I speculated on what would happen if we constructed a gigantic computer model which starts with the initial conditions on Earth 4 billion years ago and tries to simulate the effects that the four known forces of physics (the gravitational and electromagnetic forces and the strong and weak nuclear forces) would have on every atom and every subatomic particle on our planet. If we ran such a simulation out to the present day, I asked, would it predict that the basic forces of Nature would reorganize the basic particles of Nature into libraries full of encyclopedias, science texts and novels, nuclear power plants, aircraft carriers with supersonic jets parked on deck, and computers connected to laser printers, CRTs and keyboards?

A friend read my article and said, computers have advanced a lot in the last seven years, I think we could actually try such a simulation on my new laptop now. So I wrote the program — in Fortran, naturally — and we tried it….


Quote
Nakashima: Dr Sewell,

Sorry to hear that you’re still having that problem.  I tried re-writing your code in Java, and used Mersenne Twister RNG, that might have been your problem.

It works fine for me, and I get the whole evolutionary sequence as expected. You have to perturb the system occasionally, for example if you forget that last big meteor, then the raptors survive, become intelligent, and the whole thing gets wrecked from there.

One of them realized it was only a simulation (I’m not sure how.) and asked for her DNA to be saved to an external file. If this happens to you, DON’T DO IT! The results make Jurassic Park look like The Curse of Monkey Island.

Anyway, the only real bugs in the system are that the physics engine loses a day about 3500 years ago, and Game 6 of the 1986 World Series. Other than that the whole thing runs fnord.

Heh heh. Brilliant. New spinoff of the Mornington Crescent theme...

I tried running a C++ version on my old WinME computer.  

Unfortunately I  was also testing an old voice-recognition program by reading Brian Aldiss' "Hothouse" onto the hard drive.

Predictable results.

Date: 2010/03/24 13:37:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hmm. Think I'll just watch for a while.

Date: 2010/03/25 10:32:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
(This was all pre-empted by Amadan's terse and pithy observations and masterful move. $#!+.)

I thought the Labour Day rule was amended by Cotter's Janus Perspective (adapted from his novel of the same name): within six months of last Labour Day, it's after Labour Day; within six months of next Labour Day, it's before Labour Day.

But you're right, of course, Louis, S-Manifold manipulation is perfectly valid between Vernal Equinox and Easter Sunday, barring annular lunar eclipses (a full eclipse will of course reset the entire matrix).*

So, still Victoria, then, is it?

I've still got the ticket stub from the ViaRail ride down to our lovely namesake town.  That gets me a transfer at Canning Station, by the Greater Commonwealth Reciprocity Treaty (1947) [Section 3, paragraph 6, subheadings i and ii].

Canada Water.  

A bit obvious, perhaps, but I'm a fan of the classics. It worked for McDonald in '83.

*btw we've passed First Quarter and Pleine Lune is the 30th, so if you expect to win in 12, Louis, I suggest a few late-night runs or a chat with the Dispatcher.

p.s. if huwp's Covent Garden play is valid then I opt for DeVito's Short Walk to Blackfriars entrance. I know the station's closed until next year but it's the closest I can get to Mansion House, which I believe has already been played, has it not? (Last I heard Cannon Street is closed after 2100 and on Sundays)


ARGH! Just as I was working it out:

Balham?!? Damn. After all that. I snost, I lost. Sigh.

ETA: Oh hell I was looking at Royal Victoria.  No wonder. Sorry to slow the game down, ladies, I've still only got my green belt.

Date: 2010/03/25 10:45:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Belham. Grrr!  And the niblet stick in Jar with Louis.

Good luck, Ames, I believe you're up. How are you at carom shots?  Or is it Tony... I've lost track now.  Who's got the button?

Date: 2010/03/25 10:57:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Monument?  From Balham?!?!?.

Okay I'm officially lost.  I thought the previous Elephant and Castle play broke the Northern to District/Circle transfer, and jeffox could only reach Monument via Tottenham?

Oh, right, Open Orifice.

Well played, sir!

Date: 2010/03/25 11:08:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Jean Dixon Predicts: This Will Spiral Into Another IBIG-Style "Same Facts, Different Interpretation" Mind-Wank.

(all science so far)

Date: 2010/03/25 11:16:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 25 2010,07:42)
You naysayers.

Last week I wrote my own world simulation, and it worked! In fact, inspection of the output file disclosed a simulated Reciprocating Bill writing a world simulation on a simulated laptop.

So I wrote a zoom function that enabled me to easily inspect the events of my simulated world. My simulated self did the same. I began zooming around the simulated world to test some hypotheses. Back and forth, both in space and in time. So did simulated me.

... recursions limited only by memory space. Did SimRB look in on his SimRB, et cetera?

Date: 2010/03/25 12:07:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 25 2010,09:21)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 25 2010,10:57)
Monument?  From Balham?!?!?.

Okay I'm officially lost.  I thought the previous Elephant and Castle play broke the Northern to District/Circle transfer, and jeffox could only reach Monument via Tottenham?

Oh, right, Open Orifice.

Well played, sir!

ahem

So???

I don't see your point. Even though it puts him auf der Uhr, he can just take the 137 from Balham to Pim--... oh, shhh... Hospital Proximity!  The Lord Cumberland Incident really buggered things up, didn't it.  Too bad, Chelsea Bridge is usually a good way to filter the upper harmonics.

This should be interesting.

Date: 2010/03/25 12:30:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Don't forget to epiw, Tom.

Date: 2010/03/25 13:24:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tom Ames @ Mar. 25 2010,10:49)
Quote (huwp @ Mar. 25 2010,10:33)
Oh well, if Louis' opened up the Masonic pathway then it seems a shame not to use it.

I know it may be seen as radical in the everso stuffy corridors of bah-humbuggery inhabited by Louis, Tom and fnxtr where only Stovold will do (which is roughly equivalent to the King James Version only movement) but the advent of the DLR has added an extra dimension to this game.

So thanks to the Masonic reference of the double pillars of the old Naval College (now University) of Greenwich, I get to leave Knid and outflank the lot of you.

Cutty Sark.

HA!

Woo-hoo!

I admire your innovative thinking, but you seem to have forgotten about the five blue tokens pegged at the Euston entrance. Since the public convenience there has been out of order for at least a week (didn't know that, did you?), I get to contra-lateral via Oxford Circus (moving widdershins, of course), which brings me to:

Mornington Crescent!

Nice game, all.


I assume you have shown the moderator your Supercharge Smartcard with at least three yellow stars collected? Otherwise the move from Cutty Sark only takes you as far as Holborn.

Still, if that's game, well done everyone. Fancy another?

Kensal Rise.

Date: 2010/03/25 18:18:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
He didn't say "opening", he said "Shriven". Don't you know what "Shriven" means?

Harrumph.

Date: 2010/03/25 18:19:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Come on, somebody, move.

Date: 2010/03/26 10:38:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hmm. Temple to Parsons Green, eh?

Wily creature.  

Widdershins and a Full 90, meaning a Demarcation Box has to be implemented within the next 3 moves or the game is in Gridlock, and the Matrix is once again re-aligned to True North. (By my count we're at bearing about 237 now, yeah?)

Not taking the bait.

Queensway.

Date: 2010/03/26 11:15:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 26 2010,08:50)
Excellent feint!

After watching Louis skipping, whistling show tunes to the beat of a sputtering MG, Ames taking dull moves worthy of the Great Sleep of 1256 and fxntr lost at Parson's Green I spill the gambit and renege on my tokens going for broke.

Using the Elevators are Wild, I find some girls too and tip toe through the tulips to Holborn.

Nice.

One more turn in the SW and Demarc is go, avoiding the matrix reset.  

With Louis in ullage, it remains to be seen whether Amadan has the stomach for brinksmanship this morning. Directly proportional to quantity of caffeine ingested, is my speculation.

What's it going to be, Amadan? Lambeth North? Sloane Square? Or are you going to bust the game wide open?

We're all a-quiver.

Date: 2010/03/26 12:14:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 26 2010,09:20)
Overground it is.

Ball's Pond Road.

If any of you lot fancy yourselves as co-parceners you're welcome to enfeoff the turbary rights, but I'll still be in MC before you.

On the 73 or the 476?

N.B.:

OXFORD STREET, ROUTES 73 AND N73: From 0800 Saturday 16 January until December 2010, buses are diverted eastbound between Oxford Circus and Euston Square Station due to works to upgrade Tottenham Court Road Tube station and enabling works for Crossrail. Buses will not serve Tottenham Court Road and Goodge Street stations in this direction. Reported: 24/03/10 12:27 Last Updated: 24/03/10 12:31

So you'd have to pick it up at Kings Cross St. Pancras or Angel.

eta: Either way, we're out of SW without Demarc, thus into Gridlock, matrix is reset (True North), Louis' ullage is revoked (but not expunged).

Still anybody's game.

eta Angel.

Date: 2010/03/26 13:17:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2010,10:45)
Embankment.

Booyakasha! And fuck the lot of yous!

Louis


Well. Can't argue with that reasoning now, can we.

However, I'm still sensing a Southwest fetish here, even after Amadan's iconoclastic Ball's Pond Road move.

Seems to me there was a similar Convergence Event in the '57 Worlds.  By the time the refs could call a timeout  the players were huddled together in a gravitational mass rivalling anything the LHC could generate these days.  Only the slow fission of the South Pacific teams prevented all of Chelsea becoming a smoldering cauldron.

I therefore opt to punt:

Snaresbrook.

Date: 2010/03/26 13:21:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sorry, FrankH, the MC game clock clearly shows my move to Snaresbrook preceded yours to Tower Hill by one minute.  Please pick up the game from there. Thank you.

Date: 2010/03/26 13:26:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 26 2010,10:55)
Our new place in Palmetto, Florida looks like it has a fair bit of interesting fauna on it.

There's a woodpecker that has laid claim to the property. He/she comes by the power poles fairly regularly. Four of us were standing at the poles when I saw the woodpecker coming our way in the usual flap-swoop alternation. He/she lit on the pole, and it was only then that he/she looked down and noticed our presence. Birds don't have very mobile facial features, but if I could assign an emotion, it was surprise. He/she flew off. Another time, we let Rusty loose from the van. The woodpecker flew off, loudly vocalizing. I don't think he/she liked our bringing a hawk on the property.

I've seen a great blue heron and another species of heron, plus various egrets. There's sometimes coots at one of the ponds. We've seen some black-colored snake and a king snake near the house. We can hear red-tailed hawks in the vicinity, plus there are plenty of turkey vultures around. One of the turkey vultures likes to perch on the power pole.

And, of course, there are rabbits around.

When I get some time to get photos, I'll post them.

Got you all beat: we have actual frogs behind our house.

Date: 2010/03/26 13:32:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 26 2010,11:27)
Turnham Green the hard way:

Piccadilly line before 7:45 am, on Sunday.

Are you mad? You know you're risking implosion, right?

Date: 2010/03/26 13:47:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 26 2010,11:38)
 
Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 26 2010,13:27)
Turnham Green the hard way:

Piccadilly line before 7:45 am, on Sunday.

I don't think so.

As fxntr did the Snaresbrook maneuver, reminiscent of the Bilge/Blythe "Over the hedge" fiasco of 1969, and my fascination with the movement of a little puck over ice, the Nexus Void and lube shop is still in effect.

You must move through yourself and find the other side for the next 1.23t time units.

That is as fxntr points out so eloquently, you don't implode first.


7:45 on Sunday, FrankH.  Lube Shop is only in effect Tue-Sat.

However, Nexus Void stands.

Doc Bill, that's a do-over for you. Station?

Date: 2010/03/26 14:04:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Gentlemen, order please!

This is Mornington Crescent, not Aussie Rules Hurling!

Louis could you please act as Advocate and straighten this mess out.

Thanks.

Date: 2010/03/26 14:57:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tom Ames @ Mar. 26 2010,12:33)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2010,12:12)
Last Legal Move: Snaresbrook.

Some of you Americans seem to think that Mornington Crescent is somehow like Calvinball, an entirely ruleless and fictional game. Might I remind you that this, like the Wikipedia article, is a distinct falsehood.

The School Cormorant was Rules were handed down to us by the Town of Chipping Sodbury in the 1800s darkest recesses of antiquity. The game has a noble tradition through all civilised nations. Now don't piss me off or I'll insist we play by the rules which operated under Charlemagne, you see if I don't.

Anyway, enough tough love. I shall restart play from Snaresbrook with a move to:

Aldwych!

Louis

Lurkers take note: that's how the game is played. Must be something in that north Wales water...

Realizing I'm probably doomed to lose all my altitude (and possibly my red tokens) I'll risk:

Finchley Road.

(If I can avoid the ol' Spoon, I'll be overjoyed.)

What's the cutoff on ghost stations? '31? '84?

Date: 2010/03/26 15:01:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 26 2010,12:57)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 26 2010,14:25)
Bill didn't win. again.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/religio....eligion

From that thread nullasalus shows how he can read minds:
     
Quote
But I also realize that atheists are perpetually freaked out by the organization, and struggle to cope with (and rationalize) the fact that people can be scientists, intellectuals, and still religious.

Speaking an an atheist, I'm perpetually freaked out by furrys. Not by the fact that scientists and intellectuals can be religious.

Can I rationalize furrys? No.

Oh, man that is so wrong.

Who in the world is that colour of pink?

Date: 2010/03/26 15:06:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Teh Good Doctor:
Quote
Its efforts to find common ground between science and religion have systematically destroyed pretty much every religious claim.


Now, why is that, do you suppose, Billy?

But ID isn't about religion, right?

A.S.S.F!

Date: 2010/03/26 15:10:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
At the risk of initiating a cascade: Canons Park.

Date: 2010/03/26 20:38:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2010,17:42)
To cleanse the palette ready for another round:

Humphrey Lyttleton's Bad Penny Blues

Louis


1) I notice the piano is not fucking blue.

B) That's not blues, it's just boogie-woogie on 'ludes.

iii) @jeffox: Wot, Birmingham, Alabama? "International" means players, not systems.

4) Tasteful applicaton of the DLR there, 'Far. Can I call you 'Far?

I'm a fan of the Siberry Symmetry Method*, as apparent in my choice of...

Harlesden.

*J. Siberry, the fellow Canadian who was quite obsessed with mirror/balance play in the mid 1980's. Never really got her very far professionally ("It takes forever, if you go by inertia"), but the aesthetes among us appreciated her artistry.

Date: 2010/03/28 23:03:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Yeah, HBD, B3K!

Date: 2010/03/28 23:06:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 28 2010,09:51)
All I can say is:



Mornington Crescent. I win.

(That, by the way, is an original photo, taken yesterday on my iPhone from a moving taxi, so I reckon that's good enough)

Now, since I have been out on the lash in London this weekend:



Goodnight. I am off to get a new liver.

Louis

Plays like a champion, drinks like a champion, passes out like a champion.

New game Monday?

Date: 2010/03/29 09:16:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 28 2010,02:13)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 27 2010,21:42)
But isn't lye soap what the Clampetts use?

Did you ever see Elly Mae lying down in the straw?

Only in my dreams.

Date: 2010/03/29 09:20:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 29 2010,01:43)
I would like to point out I am never drinking again. Never ever ever ever.

Until next time.

That is all.

Louis

Or, as a hungover Lou Grant once said, "They should raise the legal drinking age to 70."

Plaistow.

Date: 2010/03/29 10:27:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 29 2010,08:04)
In honour of Louis's sub-meteorological state, I was considering

Hanger Lane


but memories of several wearisome journies of my own through the twilit ordeal that he now endures lead me instead to

Ickenham

(and "gag me with a Spoon!" as Moon Zappa said)

Interesting. I have to say I prefer a wide-open game to all that crowded and timid shuffling about that was going on last game.

(Though "Turnham Green" would have been a propos, too.)

Date: 2010/03/29 10:36:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 29 2010,07:35)
Quote
If mankind does not struggle against adversity, its spirit dies.  


Assertion lacking experimental evidence.

Also, terms not defined.

Date: 2010/03/29 13:20:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 29 2010,10:55)
Uxbridge.

Louis

Oh, hardy har har.

Date: 2010/03/29 13:24:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
The only height theosophists climb is Mt. Hubris.

Date: 2010/03/29 17:38:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
I live on the Canadian west coast, one of the most ridiculously beautiful places on the entire planet.  I have seen mountain and waterfall views that almost make me cry, and forget to breathe.  It takes a certain proclivity to begin with, I think, to attribute this reaction to any touch of the divine.

Date: 2010/03/29 17:46:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 29 2010,12:58)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,12:00)

measuring information/ specified complexity

Hey Poe-Joe,

I read your post. I have a simple question for clarification.

Was the CSI you measured in your example contained in :
  1. the word "aardvark",
  2. the definition of that word,
  3. or in an actual aardvark?

Is there more CSI if the definition is in French? German? Czech?  

What's the CSI in ASL, GI Joe?

Is it different from the CSI in English?

Why, or why not? How did you measure/calculate/invent it?

Does a bigger aardvark have more CSI than a smaller one? How about age? Does age affect CSI? What if one's just eaten a big pile of ants, and another hasn't eaten in 3 days? How much more CSI is in the full one?

Date: 2010/03/31 00:48:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tom Ames @ Mar. 30 2010,20:53)
Bad time to get back into this game: the helical stress is signaling an impending token vortex. I'll try to dissipate some strain by playing:

South Acton.

and I shall find my neutral space.

Oval, on the way to Camberwell.

Date: 2010/03/31 01:17:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Ahem, that will be quite enough about aardvarks.

Date: 2010/03/31 13:23:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 31 2010,01:19)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Mar. 31 2010,01:42)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 30 2010,21:01)
 
Quote (Wolfhound @ Mar. 30 2010,08:46)
...and from what I understand the agony of childbirth draws out about 18-30 years.  Longer if you name the lil' nipper Louis.  :D

Hey now!

No, Lou, I'm certain you were a delightful child and the apple of your mother's eye.  As opposed to Louis, who likely filled the role of talking snake.  Or not.  We should ask his mum.  Once Arden is done with her. *

* My apologies to Louis' mother, who has suffered enough, as it is.

Don't apologise. She's enjoying herself apparently. Frankly it's disgusting.

Anyway, you're right. I am the incarnation of evil. Hey, it's something to do at weekends.

Louis

What? Homo.

Sorry, I thought you said you were the pink carnation of evil.

Carry on.

Date: 2010/03/31 13:24:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Maybe there was a singularity, and we all got sucked into a parallel universe that looks exactly the same.

Date: 2010/03/31 18:45:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Someone should have explained how "perfect" the discs are to my dad while he was in agony for a decade because of a couple of ruptured ones.  It was only after they figured out how to remove them and fuse the vertebrae that he was able to function again.

Oh, and years later this "intelligently designed" body conked out because his bone marrow quit producing red blood cells.

Intelligent Design my ass.

Tyrell: You were made as well as we could make you.
Roy: But not to last.

Date: 2010/04/01 09:02:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ April 01 2010,03:23)
Not sure if this belongs here or on the MC thread.

Choice.  Thanks for sharing.

Date: 2010/04/01 09:04:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ April 01 2010,03:09)
Incredible article in Wissenschaftlich Zeitung für betruglichen Forderungen. Excuse my rough translation:

 
Quote
WZbF: It has been alleged that the Intelligent Design postulate is essentially a political strategy under the guise of scientific language.

Dembski: That is tendentious. What we are seeking is to restore the practice of science to what we have identified, with great precision, as its Aristotelian ideal. That political consequences would flow from this is secondary, though undoubtedly to be desired. In a sense, we are seeking to destroy science in order to save it.


Full article available here.

Erm, that wouldn't be today's edition by any chance, would it? Hard to tell with IDiots.

Date: 2010/04/01 09:58:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 01 2010,07:38)
hmmmmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doqv-5KSBEE

Some guys really should stick to just blogging.

Date: 2010/04/01 10:02:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 01 2010,07:59)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 01 2010,09:58)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 01 2010,07:38)
hmmmmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doqv-5KSBEE

Some guys really should stick to just blogging.

I thought he was you!

Well, except that he's Australian and I'm Canadian, and he's blond and I'm not, he's under 30 and I'm not...

Date: 2010/04/01 15:50:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 01 2010,12:08)
Nonsense!

McCormick's Rule clearly states that a player may traverse multiple stations in a single turn if on foot in inclement weather provided the player neither breaks down and cries nor asks for direction, which, as a Real Man I am genetically incapable of either.

But, ha and double ha, the joke's on you as I wend my way to

London Bridge

which falls down less after two pints than Louis!

"and by the time I'm sober I've forgotten what I've 'ad,   and everybody tells me that it's cool to be a cat.."

... but all stations between begin and end walking points, especially in the rain or sleet on slippery sidewalks (double your tokens if you're wearing smooth-soled Oxfords or similar footwear), are still open for play.

This is known as the Slide Rule.

Barbican.

Date: 2010/04/03 15:27:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Joe G @ April 03 2010,12:33)
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 03 2010,08:52)
So, how bout that challenge Joe?

I am ready-

Any time you want to start posting positive evidence for your position I will read it and respond.

"I know you are but what am I."

QED.

So, Joe, you're saying you just measured the CSI of the definition of an aardvark?

Okay.

Why?

And you still didn't explain whether or not the CSI is the same in other languages.

Date: 2010/04/05 00:44:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Robert, you are a loony and you have been spotted.

(... I just found out Mabus is Canadian, too. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry, everyone.  Even BTO and Steppenwolf can't make up for this.)

Date: 2010/04/05 11:42:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 05 2010,05:30)
Quote (FrankH @ April 05 2010,07:59)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 05 2010,06:34)
 
Quote (Robert Byers @ April 04 2010,22:53)
I see my point holding up either way.
In other words, there's nothing anyone can say that will change your alleged mind.

Thanks for making that even more clear than it was before.

Too bad the ID/YEC crowd is not populated with young ladies who could contort their bodies as well as they can their minds.

Ah, the pleasing mental picture that makes.

But, given what lurks in their brains, would you really want to get close enough to their bodies to *ahem* admire them?  I'm sure that viewing them from afar might give you a false sense of security but who really knows the actual distance needed to safely avoid infection?  I'm pretty sure their mind virus is airborne.  *Brrrrrr*

Yeah, in my unfortunate experience, some of the finest vessels can have some of the vilest contents. Oh, well.  Book/judge/cover.

Date: 2010/04/05 23:23:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
This is the problem with declarations of certitude on the part of Darwinists. Once it was discovered in the 20th century that living systems are not essentially based on chemical reactions and stochastic processes, but upon information and information-processing systems, the proponents of chance-and-necessity biology left their area of “expertise” and were doomed to defend an indefensible proposition, as the onslaught of statistical mathematics, information theory, and computer science rendered their hypotheses utterly bereft of plausibility.


Reeeally?
I never got that memo. Who was the geneticist who discovered that DNA is not limited to chemical reactions?

(insert maximum facepalm here)

Date: 2010/04/06 11:36:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 06 2010,06:52)
Quote (Richard Simons @ April 05 2010,21:42)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 19 2010,00:57)
If you've booked your Florida travel outside winter and spring break, yeah, that's a bit different.

Maybe a get-together could be set up for those of us who are residents here and our visiting friends.

Sorry, Wes, I've been away from the site for a few days and had not seen this. We plan on arriving in Tampa late on the 7th, then next day driving down to Ft Myers for 3 nights, followed by Naples (not booked) then back to Tampa to fly back on the afternoon of the 14th. If possible, I would like a chance to meet some of the people who frequent these pages.

I'm pretty much a non-entity around here (lotsa' lurkin', not much postin') but reside in the Central Florida area.  A meetup would be nice.  Any excuse to share a drink, you know.

Plus, she has a cool leather jacket.

Date: 2010/04/06 13:16:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Joe G @ April 06 2010,11:10)
Quote (FrankH @ April 04 2010,17:17)
Well, I hope Joe G. takes this as a serious attempt to see where both sides stand.  So Joe, I and others have done two things:

1:  Presented Evidence that supports Evolution

2:  Shown that many here understand CSI and EF but feel that it is not adequate to do what Dr. Dembski has stated it does.

So are you going to show us an example of evidence FOR ID and how EF and CSI work on biological systems?

Frank,

ID is not anti-evolution. IOW evidence for evolution is meaningless.

Neither you nor anyone else has provided any positive evidence for blind, undirected processes.

As for the EF how do you think scientists determine the cause now?

IOW, "No."

Date: 2010/04/07 11:49:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 07 2010,03:41)
Quote (MichaelJ @ April 07 2010,03:25)
Is it Happy Paul Nelson day or Merry Paul Nelson day?

Nelson's Greetings!

Io Nelsonalia!

Date: 2010/04/08 10:54:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that tard in your brain?

(apologies to Jimi).

Date: 2010/04/08 12:30:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Well. Now that I've somewhat recovered from my chocolate bunny overdose ("My butt hurts."  "What?"):

Upper Holloway.

Note that this is a step-free access station. As The Stranglers are singing to me right now, "Sometimes it's harder to look than to leap."

Date: 2010/04/08 13:33:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
No, that's what one chocolate bunny said to the other. I guess you have to see the cartoon to get it. :-)

Date: 2010/04/09 01:10:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Aardvark @ April 08 2010,13:53)
     
Quote
specified irregular complexity

I had that once. I think it was the French onion soup.

Date: 2010/04/11 23:54:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hear hear.

Happy birthday, oh pinheaded one. Nice skull.

Date: 2010/04/11 23:56:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy birthday (late), most eclectic and esoteric k.e..

Date: 2010/04/13 12:44:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (keiths @ April 13 2010,10:25)
batshit77 thinks we must be at the center of the universe because no matter which way we look, the cosmic microwave background appears the same distance away:
Quote
my point was not to contest heliocentrism, which I fully accept as perfectly valid in regards to our relative motion in the cosmos, and indeed I would hold anyone very suspect of scientific integrity who maintained the sun revolved around the earth just to support a particular Biblical interpretation, my post was aimed chiefly to point out the obvious fact that the centrality we observe for ourselves in the universe as a whole in regards to the CMBR, regardless of our motion around the sun, brings us full circle from the mediocrity that was derived from Copernicus’s and Galileo’s geocentrism. Indeed we find ourselves smack dab in the middle of the universe again. Just look at the video I linked. I would think that centrality should at least cause some small surprise to the person who has been told, relentlessly, as I was, through his life that we hold absolutely no special place in the universe (Sagan’s Pale Blue Dot comes to mind).

That's about as dumb as someone who sees his shadow on a sunny day, walks a mile, sees his shadow again, and concludes that he therefore has not moved.

The girl next door and I did a similar experiment when we were about 5 years old. We walked in opposite directions to see which of us the sun was following.

Maybe 4 years old...

Date: 2010/04/13 17:35:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ April 13 2010,13:34)
[quote=FloydLee,April 13 2010,13:17][/quote]
Quote
Quote
That case unambiguously decided that ID is religion


Unambiguously....?  Try "Incorrectly."

http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/Remarks....609.pdf


Only to a small portion of uneducated fringe wingnuts who do not understand either law or science.

aka "cdesign proponentsists".

A.S.S.F.!!!!

Date: 2010/04/13 17:39:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reg @ April 13 2010,13:41)
O'Leary invokes telepathic dogs

"I'm not going to keep pretending I'm asleep, Albert." -- Blood. (Best thing Don Johnson ever did)

Date: 2010/04/13 18:03:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Wow.

Projection, it's not just for movie theatres any more.

"naturalism, materialism, atheism, agnosticism" are "sewer-stenched idol gods"???

Who's the one with "this palpable visceral extreme hatred and suspicion"?

Defenders of reality hate ID because it's bullshit, FL, a cowardly excuse to weasel Bible-thumping into publicly funded science classes.

It has no use in the real world.  

It's Paklid-level, cargo cult, word-games and mind-wanking.  

No wonder you and your fellow "cdesign proponentsists" are so fond of it.

Date: 2010/04/13 18:09:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FloydLee @ April 13 2010,15:49)
Quote
"If we take seriously the word-flesh Christology of Chalcedon (i.e. the doctrine that Christ is fully human and fully divine) and view Christ as the telos toward which God is drawing the whole of creation, then any view of the sciences that leaves Christ out of the picture must be seen as fundamentally deficient."

   
Quote
"Intelligent Design opens the whole possibility of
us being created in the image of a benevolent
God.”


You know, these are two of the most profound statements I've ever read from anybody outside of the Bible writers.  It explains exactly why you evolutionists viscerally hate ID so very much.  

Be honest:  You've spent your lives nurturing a passion for science (which is a good thing), and ALSO nurtuing a passion for naturalism, materialism, atheism, agnosticism, (and in the case of Christian evolutionists, for syncretism), which is not good.

And now here comes Dembski saying that there's something fundamentally wrong with leaving Jesus Christ out of your concept of science in the first place.  Jesus Christ is no agnostic, no atheist, no syncretist, no materialist, and if you let HIM into your concept of what science is, then all those sewer-stenched idol gods (previously listed) got to git OUT and stay out.

And THAT's why there's this palpable visceral extreme hatred and suspicion of all things ID.  ID poses no threat to science, but those religious setups you guys have currently got going, are clear targets for belief-shifts and elimination.

FL

(Shrug) Okay, let's invite Jesus Christ into the lab.

How does E=mc2 differ from E=mc2+JC?

Date: 2010/04/13 21:46:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
... what, as opposed to worshipping Scripture instead of trying to understand the world God supposedly made?

Intrigued? Hardly.  The whole concept of "fallen creation" is nonsense.

You keep forgetting that all your attempts at proofs only work within your hermetically-sealed psychosis. The real world doesn't work like that.

Like I said, word games and mind-wanking.

Date: 2010/04/13 21:49:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
So, is E=mc2 the same as E=mc2+JC, or not?

If not, why not, and how, exactly?

If it is, why bother?

Date: 2010/04/13 21:55:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Adam + Eve = Jesus + his mother?

Must have been an interesting home life, StephenB.

Date: 2010/04/13 22:01:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
The rules for MC-by-mail (traditional) have liberal time limits, but I move that this e-MC match be declared Moribund.

All tokens to be returned to their respective players and the board cleared.  Short-straw restart.

Contingent on Nakashima's release from moderation, of course.

Date: 2010/04/14 10:22:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 14 2010,05:17)
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 14 2010,06:19)
Quote
However, the type of landscape we need to achieve success in a search cannot simply be assumed to be given to us. Many types of landscapes are possible; many of them (the majority) are not helpful. Now here’s the point: narrowing down the set of possible fitness landscapes to only those that allow quick convergence requires target knowledge. We need to know which target we’re searching for to select a fitness landscape that will work. You’ve grasped that in your last comment, asking “what is the specific target?” The correlation between fitness landscape and target location is essential.

Bill's crowd still assumes that evolution knows where it needs to go. And has targets.

Yes, I was just about to point that out to Atom when Hans got bannated. A shame.

Yeah, they still don't get that "reproductive advantage under current conditions" is a result, not a goal, just like there's no goal in 2+2=4 or H+H=He+energy.

Date: 2010/04/14 10:24:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FloydLee @ April 14 2010,08:18)
There's only one real God.  The God of the Bible.

Sez you. Who cares?

Date: 2010/04/14 10:30:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ April 14 2010,01:11)
We're still playing. Some of us are just considering our next move.

Louis

What, Ent-fashion? It's been five days, at least.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time with last night's garlic and so shan't be crossing running water, just in case I've got Vlad's Curse.

Vauxhall.

Date: 2010/04/14 10:31:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
By bus, obviously.

Date: 2010/04/14 10:37:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,04:45)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 14 2010,06:39)
The group boarding the trolley appeared to all be ASL users, so likely hearing-impaired. That might explain a non-standard tone of voice.

Aha!  I didn't get to observe the group prior to them boarding the trolley so missed that.  He was a self-confident guy, for certain!

Oh, here's one of windblown me, taken by Wes.   :D

yowzah. :-)

My sister runs Northwood Studios in Gainesville. Silkscreens &c.

Date: 2010/04/14 14:05:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ April 14 2010,09:50)
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,12:05)
A group shot, minus Mrs. Elsberry, who joined us later.  Not sure why I look so sheepish but Wes and I are stooping to make sure our heads stayed in the frame.


I see the good Professor Steve Steve was able to make it to the party, or at least his stunt double.

... looks like a P.S.S. sock puppet to me...

Date: 2010/04/14 14:12:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,08:58)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 14 2010,11:37)
yowzah. :-)

My sister runs Northwood Studios in Gainesville. Silkscreens &c.

Aw, thanks!   :)   I am, indeed, a typical gal in that I like it when men find me attractive and tell me so.  Even when I'm "off the market", so to speak.  It's been a good 24 hours for me.  *blush*  

And yet another guy with a Florida connection.  Hope your sister's business is booming!

Alas, I have to rely on the memory of compliments.  (sigh) Those were the days. :-)

Date: 2010/04/14 16:30:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 14 2010,13:33)
ID - the unscience (with respect to Occam's Toothbrush).

(cue Geoffrey Holder's laugh from the old 7-Up commercials).

Date: 2010/04/14 16:45:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (FloydLee @ April 14 2010,12:57)
Quote
Sez you. Who cares?

You never can tell.  Even down in Atheistville, you got some people who are quietly interested.  Think Antony Flew.

Who will be NEXT to defect from the atheistic camp??  Step right up, boys!!!!!

FL   :)

Y'know FL, I don't really give a flying what you worship. Just keep it the fuck out of taxpayer funded schools, okay? Thanks.

Date: 2010/04/14 16:48:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'm going with C), Monty.

She thinks I've got it goin' on, that's really all that matters these days.

Sorry, Louis.

Date: 2010/04/14 17:26:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,15:13)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 14 2010,17:48)
I'm going with C), Monty.

She thinks I've got it goin' on, that's really all that matters these days.

Sorry, Louis.

Well, damn!  Actions speak louder than words so this is pure win for you!   :)

*Poor, poor Louis...

Yeah, she makes the slide from Ric Ocasek/Kevin Bacon to Nick Park's Wallace a lot easier to deal with. :-)

Anyway, back to wildlife: The Snowbirds are practicing here (CFB Comox, just over the hill), I'll try to get some shots, sadly all I have is this cheap digital with the 1/2-second delay, which tends to make me  :angry:

edit: remove some stuff.

Date: 2010/04/15 12:57:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ April 15 2010,09:22)
Quote
15 April 2010
Happy Birthday UD!
Barry Arrington

On April 15, 2005 Dr. Dembski posted the first post to UD.  5,449 posts and five years later we are stronger than ever.
How does he count? Do those 5,449 posts include the deleted ones?

... and maybe they measure "strong" the same way they measure "CSI"; that is, MSU.

Date: 2010/04/15 13:07:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ April 15 2010,09:33)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 15 2010,11:05)
Yes! I was hoping someone would fall for that. That's THREE parallel shunts, so I'm well within my rights to invoke and AF DAVE reversal:
(big image snipped)
Hmmm. Farringdon, for reasons that will become apparent..

Sustained applause

(polite golf applause)

However, MC has been called, so we pick it up from Farrington, unless the call is challenged... anyone?

Anyway, it's a lovely day and I can see the glacier from my back window, so:

Swiss Cottage.

Date: 2010/04/15 13:07:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh, bugger. Simultaneous play. Carry on....

Date: 2010/04/15 18:55:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
1.  Specified complexity is well-defined and empirically detectable.


(sigh) For the nth time:

"Specified complexity" is word salad, a bunch of made-up bullshit using numbers Dembski pulled out of his ass, totally fucking useless for anything except smuggling Jesus into science class.

It's the epitome of argument from ignorance. "I don't see how this could have happened naturally, therefore Jesus."  

... except that Dembski is either too much of a coward or too much of a conniving weasel to use the J word. Either way, is this how you want your faith presented?

Date: 2010/04/15 18:57:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ April 15 2010,16:50)
Bob Marks is one of the 20 Most Brilliant Christian Professors.
   
Quote
Marks said the recent recognition of his work is not vindication for criticism that has been directed both at him and the field in general.

“I think that when truth emerges, that will be the ultimate vindication,” he said. “And I think that’s going to come someday.”

Stacking up

That day may be sooner than later, Marks said, noting that peer-reviewed publications in his field in 2009, if printed and stacked, “would exceed the height of the Empire State Building.”

What font does he use?

Surely a good Christian wouldn't try to conflate publications in the field of genetic algorithms, or whatever he considers his field, with publications supporting Intelligent Design Creationism?

ETA: I notice that Simon Conway Morris is also on the list, although that isn't mentioned at UD.

He uses a small font to save hard drive space.

Date: 2010/04/15 20:51:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ April 15 2010,17:06)
If we would only play by Pleistocene rules this would be sooooo much easier...

Whitechapel

Thing about Pleistocene is, eventually all the colours get mixed together and you just have one brown mass.  Plus it tastes funny.

What? Oh. Never mind...

Date: 2010/04/16 01:29:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Wow.
So many misconceptions, so little time.
I leave the fisking to the pros.

Date: 2010/04/16 01:34:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
I guess degrees in philosophy and math trump just theology and actual field work.  The wank-fest continues.

Date: 2010/04/16 01:50:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ April 15 2010,23:37)
the fields he's trying to pervert


My tired eyes read that as "the fields he's trying to prevent", but I guess that would work, too.

edited for brevity.

Date: 2010/04/16 10:38:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ April 16 2010,05:46)
Oh and furthermore.

Louis

I notice us Colonials were spared the lash.

We're like the big, quiet, friendly guy in the corner at the party, that no-one ever really talks to, but he doesn't seem to mind, and is content just to  watch.

Date: 2010/04/16 11:03:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ April 16 2010,01:39)
Sorry I was just giggling at Swiss Cottage.

Uxbridge.

Louis

wtf is a "Traditional Sunday Lunch", anyway?

Date: 2010/04/17 12:14:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Isn't it just about time for another "I know you are but what am I, asshole?" drive-by?

Date: 2010/04/18 02:18:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2010,20:12)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2010,20:59)
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2010,18:45)
bj, if you are a truly honest seeker of information, then you will get more than could ever imagine from the folks here.  Everyone from the humble high school teacher to the Ph.D. (several actually) who work with evolutionary principles on a daily basis.

Heh heh, compared to Dembski's 2 PhDs (in very very similar topics for very similar work), we AtBTers can show up with how many PhDs? At least 8. Several more nearing completion.

I have over 200 college credit hours... but no degree beyond a bachelors... sigh.

Heh. And if questions come up about music, broadcasting, the history of the English language, or entry-level astronomy, I'm your man. :-)

Date: 2010/04/18 02:42:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Alan Fox @ April 17 2010,16:04)
   
Quote (Amadan @ April 17 2010,10:34)
In honour of the volcano that is currently keeping our feet firmly on the ground,

Mudchute.

(It was that or Burnt Oak, I guess)

You pinched my move

I think that gives me a free move to:

Mornington Crescent!!!!


Dude, you can't go claiming that "Mudchute" was already played without accepting that "MC" was already played by Amadan. If your previous play of Mudchute is valid, so is Amadan's MC play. (viz. Crown v. Gandersauce, 1943, under Post hoc ergo propter hoc; quid pro quo; res ipsa  loquitur; pax vobiscum).

Or, as Nietszche once said, "Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist von den Aalen voll."*

But that's put me in a fine pickle, hasn't it.  I'm snookered... except... a-HA!

Headstone Lane!

(Wipes brow) Whew! Thought I'd have to go pan-dimensional, which is not only beyond my credit limit, it's also hard on the batteries.



*roughly: "Oh, God, not my in-laws again."

Date: 2010/04/18 22:23:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ April 18 2010,18:24)
Quote (afarensis @ April 18 2010,14:47)
Reality has a British Colonial bias, apparently. That being the case I think we should all humor Louis and learn the British language.

Kentish Town

Your link contains errors.

For example: "arse over elbow", just no. The phrase is "you can't tell your arse from your elbow". It has nothing to do with falling arse over tit.

Deary me.

Louis

Me mum always says it "ass over teakettle". But she's 1/2 Irish and 1/2 French. 'nuff said.

Date: 2010/04/18 22:25:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh, yeah:

Wanstead. 'cause it's got "tea" in it.

Date: 2010/04/18 22:31:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 18 2010,16:03)
Thanks for the lolcat, Carlson.

But before we get into the whole lolstuff, should I mention that it's impossible for me to move to a hospital on a sunday due to public transports laziness (and I don't have a car or driver's licence), so I won't be able to have my burns checked before tomorrow?

When I say devastated, I mean it :(

That's bad. Where on earth are you that public transport is so abyssmal?

Got any aloe plants about?

My sympathies. Step-daughter scorched her arm on an iron yesterday, that was feeble in comparison.

Date: 2010/04/21 20:27:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ April 21 2010,04:05)
1. If an atheist does such a deed without ANYONE ever finding out, how can Andrew say whether or not the atheist has done it?

2. If it transpires that there is a god who rewards pure altruism, won't the atheist, who acted without expectation of a posthumous bonus prize, get a bigger reward than the believer? ("Sorry Andrew, your place in Heaven has been allocated to an atheist")

A true tour de tard.

As Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper would say, "A tard so big, it had other, little tards orbiting around it."

Date: 2010/04/21 20:28:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Gunthernacus @ April 21 2010,10:43)
Bradford is lonely:
 
Quote
Do human females have a protein factor whose expression or lack thereof affects their mating drives?

bwa ha ha ha!

Date: 2010/04/22 00:28:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh, crap, he's infested this thread too.

Go away Bobby. Give us at least one venue where you don't spout your ignorant vomit.

OK? Pretty please?

Date: 2010/04/25 17:25:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 24 2010,19:04)
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,11:58)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 14 2010,11:37)
yowzah. :-)

My sister runs Northwood Studios in Gainesville. Silkscreens &c.

Aw, thanks!   :)   I am, indeed, a typical gal in that I like it when men find me attractive and tell me so.  Even when I'm "off the market", so to speak.  It's been a good 24 hours for me.  *blush*  

And yet another guy with a Florida connection.  Hope your sister's business is booming!

Ah, well then. I find you attractive.

Get in line.

Date: 2010/04/25 17:27:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 23 2010,18:06)
Craniums are neither wanted nor needed at UD:

7
Clive Hayden
04/22/2010
12:08 pm

osteonectin,

    uprigth, are you discussing with your own cranium?

There was a commenter named “cranium”, who I banned and deleted his comment.

crania

Date: 2010/04/26 00:55:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 25 2010,16:21)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 25 2010,18:27)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 23 2010,18:06)
Craniums are neither wanted nor needed at UD:

7
Clive Hayden
04/22/2010
12:08 pm

osteonectin,

    uprigth, are you discussing with your own cranium?

There was a commenter named “cranium”, who I banned and deleted his comment.

crania

Both forms are acceptable. Check it out. Plus extension of one's pinkie is necessary to refer to crania, difficult while typing.

But necessary for a lady during the proper consumption of tea, don't you know.

Date: 2010/04/26 00:57:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (bjray @ April 25 2010,22:12)
You don't have to answer, because the point is I have enjoyed learning from many of you. Those who provided me with further reading material and explanation. And not simply repeating the same old cries of ignorance, ignorance, and more ignorance.

I dunno, man, if a lot of educated people called me ignorant, I'd consider the possibility that it's true.

I've made some blunders on these pages, been corrected, and am better educated for it.

And if I can do it, you can too.

Date: 2010/04/26 01:00:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ April 25 2010,09:33)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 25 2010,07:56)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 25 2010,09:40)
I don't want a god into justice. I want one that is merciful, and with a good sense of humor.

You can't always get what you want.
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you need.

I can't get no satisfaction

And the queen is bravely shouting "What the hell is going on?"

Date: 2010/04/26 12:40:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,10:13)
Quote
(Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,11:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Because they prefer chocolate and flowers?

Coconuts!

Date: 2010/04/26 12:47:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ April 26 2010,07:57)
I too am a superhero, it's just my superpowers are rubbish.

Louis

Are they any of these, Louis?

(From Letterman):

10. Super spelling
9. Lightning-fast mood swings
8. Really bendy thumb
7. Unusually natural smile when posing for photographs
6. Ability to calm jittery squirrels
5. Power to shake exactly two aspirin out of a bottle
4. Ability to get tickets to Goodwill Games
3. Power to score with other superheroes' wives
2. Ability to communicate with corn
1. Magnetic colon


I know someone who wants the ability to change the colour of the pips on playing cards. Not the suit, just the colour.

My brother has the power of making me invisible to women.

Date: 2010/04/26 12:51:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2010,07:36)
MOAR:

https://www.blogger.com/comment....9889702

As a hip young friend says, "Samo' samo' ".

Frasier: "Diane, are you saying that I'm redundant? That I repeat myself? That I say things over and over?"

Date: 2010/04/26 15:33:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JLT @ April 26 2010,12:23)
I love this "Is ID compatible with [insert religious doctrine here]" discussions.

Niwrad:
   
Quote
Some people who are impressed by the arguments of the intelligent design movement will finally admit that an intelligent designer may have created the universe. However, they simply refuse to believe that this designer could have been God.

Yes, I bet there're loads of people who are convinced by ID but do not want to believe that the designer is god. Very likely.
   
Quote
Although the question of the Designer’s identity goes beyond Intelligent Design theory, and belongs to the domain of metaphysics and theology,
Of course.    
Quote
it may be worth considering why their position is fundamentally inconsistent.
To demonstrate this inconsistency, it will be necessary to very briefly explain the terms of the issue from the perspective of metaphysics [...]. What theology calls “God,” metaphysics refers to as “Being.” And what we call the “universe” or the “cosmos” is simply the “universal existence” or “manifestation” of Being. The universal existence is everything that exists.
[SNIP 1350 word of very brief explanations, during which we learn e. g. that "To mistakenly apply the terms “to exist” and “existence” to God, instead of the correct terms “to be” and “Being,” is a clear sign of implicit naturalism."]

Why, if you start with the definition that everything that exists is the manifestation of god, do you need 1350 words to conclude this:
   
Quote
Since the universe is an intelligent design (and ID theory provides scientific methods and techniques to infer that it is), it follows that its cause, Being, can be symbolically thought as the Great Designer.

He could've just added it to his definition and be done with it...
But what we all really want to know: Is the Great Designer identical with the Intelligent Designer?
   
Quote
However, this Designer, in order to be able to design, must have the property of being (because what does not exist and besides is not can do nothing). As we saw above, what has the property of being has no other property. Hence this designer, having exactly the same properties as Being, is identical to Being (as a consequence of the principle of “identity of indiscernibles”). Hence we arrive at the conclusion that the Designer of the universe is Being (God).

Well, I'm amazed. Didn't see that coming.
BTW, the intelligent designer has no other property than the property of being? Interesting.
 
Quote
There are two direct consequences of this argument. First, any attempt to make intelligent design compatible with atheism is incoherent. Conversely, ID is compatible with any orthodox theistic doctrine (Thomism included).

That's settled then. But remember: ID is not religious.

Dear dear.

This reminds me of 9th grade science nerds expounding on the consequences of FTL and time travel.

What utter bullshit.

Date: 2010/04/26 15:36:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,13:18)
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,18:13)
Quote
(Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,11:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Because they prefer chocolate and flowers?

POTW?

I squirted [insert drink of choice here] through my [insert orifice of choice here]...

saline solution / straws in my charred nasal passages.

Too soon?

Date: 2010/04/26 15:57:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hmmm... 3-point turns, is it?  Like backing the Cutlass out of the underground lot.  Buddy banged the front fender on a concrete pillar doing that once. Risky move, that.

However, no-one called AA on Louis' play to Holborn, so we can assume successful negotiation of the turns.

Okay, then.  Open Top and flat out to...

Hackney Wick.

Date: 2010/04/26 16:01:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 26 2010,13:42)
Quote
Even me, a layman so down the scale I could be an
amoeba with a degree in geoplastics, can understand c14 and other radioactive means of dating..


I once overheard an ex-girlfriend describing me as "radioactive."

It was only much later in life I discovered that it wasn't a superpower.

Well I hope you discovered soap soon afterward. :-)

Date: 2010/04/26 17:37:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,14:28)
Quote (didymos @ April 26 2010,21:44)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 26 2010,13:36)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,13:18)
 
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,18:13)
   
Quote
(Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,11:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Because they prefer chocolate and flowers?

POTW?

I squirted [insert drink of choice here] through my [insert orifice of choice here]...

saline solution / straws in my charred nasal passages.

Too soon?

Not too soon for me. Sorry, SD!

For me neither.

These few last posts made my day!

:D

Maybe you should change your moniker to Schrodinger's Dragon.

Date: 2010/04/26 17:47:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,09:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.
Dating outside one's species is never a good idea.

Date: 2010/04/27 00:15:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,20:56)
Quote
Dating outside one's species is never a good idea.

Tell that to Sarak and Amanda...

Henry

Sarek. Yeah. Funny I was just on IMDB today. Apparently the woman who played Amanda was also on "Father Knows Best", which was before my time.

Date: 2010/04/27 00:16:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,20:56)
Quote
Dating outside one's species is never a good idea.

Tell that to Sarak and Amanda...

Henry

Or Louis Wu.

Date: 2010/04/28 00:28:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Cubist @ April 27 2010,20:21)
I am definitely not expecting bjray to show up again. (snip)

potw.

Date: 2010/04/30 19:41:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 30 2010,13:20)
One of the unanticipated joys of being a department head is the sporadic arrival of screamingly hilarious scientific "papers" that arrive in the mailbox. Papers announcing cures for cancer, theories of everything, and other non-peer-reviewed manuscripts are a regular occurrence for me these days.

Today's mail brought something that could have been written by the love child of AFDave and Denyse O'Leary, if that love child had been raised on another planet and with some horizontal gene transfer from Bobby Byers and FL. I've put a PDF version of it here; enjoy it in lieu of the regular Friday meltdown. I particularly love the fact that the writer claims to have a BA in Biology from Brown University. Maybe Ken Miller knows him!

That's what Mary Baker Eddy's "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures" always looked like to me.

Date: 2010/05/01 19:20:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
hell yes.

Happy birthday louFCD and Sledgehammer (heh. We were going to cover that song on the new album "Stucco Removal Machine).

Funny, you don't look a day over 90, sledge.

Date: 2010/05/01 19:24:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
(somewhere in the distance, a dog barked...)

How much you wanna bet JoeG will post one of his "I know you are but what am I, asshole?"s here.

Date: 2010/05/02 11:45:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ May 02 2010,00:27)
This guy:          
Quote
Editorial Board

David Abel, Origin of Life; The Origin-of-Life Science Foundation, United States

is an out and out crank.

Check out his home-made web site featuring 17 different colors, none of which occur in nature, childish design and oodles of drivel about the Cybernetic Cut.

Verdict: Good choice.  Fits right in with the rest of the board.

   
Quote
Is your model scientifically plausible? To test this, the scientific method my bullshit requires that you calculate a Universal Plausibility Metric (UPM, Xi), and that you apply the Universal Plausbililty Principle to your model.



Wow. Procrustes would be proud.

Date: 2010/05/03 09:37:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reed @ May 03 2010,00:43)
Another mammoth challenge to the Darwinist paradigm.

So i wonder if the genetic deterioration that led to the loss of this low-temperature haemoglobin happened after Teh Fall, or just after Teh Flood?

Date: 2010/05/04 21:24:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Cubist @ May 04 2010,09:42)
Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ May 04 2010,10:06)
Challenge 4 is easy. Using a Dembski integral, one can derive a surjective submorphism from string one to string two. If we incorporate that into a Mullings Matrix M, where

M = cT,

c of course being the Cordova metric, we can then invert M and Behe-filter it about l (l being the Leary Curve, which you should have obtained from the integral). This should leave you with a vector V, in which

V(1) = the identifier of the designed string
V(2) = the CSI in string 1
V(3) = the CSI in string 2.

Well, then: With such a... rigorous... procedure to employ, it should be child's play to identify which of the two character strings is Designed. So would you care to do that thing?

Consider your chain yanked, Cubist. ;-p

Date: 2010/05/04 21:32:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Bob O'H @ May 03 2010,23:14)
Quote
Or pehaps American cars are so utterly gash they can only go fast for short periods before falling away.

We used to have to build their cars for them - dunno if that's still the case.

That's funny, Bob, you don't look Japanese.

Date: 2010/05/04 21:34:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ April 25 2010,15:32)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 25 2010,17:25)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 24 2010,19:04)
 
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 14 2010,11:58)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ April 14 2010,11:37)
yowzah. :-)

My sister runs Northwood Studios in Gainesville. Silkscreens &c.

Aw, thanks!   :)   I am, indeed, a typical gal in that I like it when men find me attractive and tell me so.  Even when I'm "off the market", so to speak.  It's been a good 24 hours for me.  *blush*  

And yet another guy with a Florida connection.  Hope your sister's business is booming!

Ah, well then. I find you attractive.

Get in line.


Way too late:

I don't think that's the kind of "wild life" Alby intended on this board...

Date: 2010/05/04 21:58:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ May 03 2010,14:20)
Quote (BillB @ April 28 2010,19:51)
Quote (afarensis @ April 28 2010,13:18)
 
Quote (Louis @ April 28 2010,03:56)
 
Quote (afarensis @ April 28 2010,01:29)
   
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 26 2010,17:22)
Seems that my only alternative out of Pervivale is to sashay over to

Queensway

also known as Boobquake East.

Oh, is that how it is? That move gives:

St. John's Wood

Ah ha ha ha. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Bow.

Louis

Be here all week...try the waitress/waiter...tip the veal...

Pah! St Johns 'wood' - he always was a saucy saint - easily aroused. Lets restore some decency:

Panton St.

That's fast and furious play.

Cockfosters.

Louis

Cheeky boys.

Remember the game in '04 that went deep into R18 territory?  The game was only broadcast as a repeat after hours on Channel 3.

Still, we're all adults here...

Hanger Lane.

Date: 2010/05/12 23:34:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ May 12 2010,16:45)
Thank you all! :)

 
Man, if anyone can tell me where to find old science films on the web, let me know!

It's not old, but it's fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JdWlSF195Y


Congratulations, Kristine.

Date: 2010/05/14 01:29:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Jkrebs @ May 13 2010,09:03)
StephenB explains his book:

 
Quote
jbg, my book is an extension of a thesis, though it has not yet been edited or even finalized. In any case, it is more about communication theory in general and less about intelligent design in particular.


So didymos above was mostly right when he wrote, "Hell, it may not even mean "written"."

(facepalm)

Great, more shit about "information".

Date: 2010/05/14 09:57:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ May 14 2010,07:41)
Certainly the incestuous little group they have there.

Or at lease endogamous. :-)

Self-pollinating?

Date: 2010/05/14 10:07:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ May 13 2010,04:38)
I have said it before and I'll say it again: the man is a gigantic douchenozzle.

Yeah, ok, I just wanted to use the word douchenozzle.

I even read his presentation (snicker, giggle) about those evil New Atheists. I LOLed. Point, thoroughly missed. Bravo!

Louis

That's right up there with "fuck-knuckles", Louis.

Heh-heh. Douchenozzle. It's even fun to type. Heh-heh.

Date: 2010/05/14 11:27:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 14 2010,09:10)
Quote (fnxtr @ May 14 2010,10:07)
 
Quote (Louis @ May 13 2010,04:38)
I have said it before and I'll say it again: the man is a gigantic douchenozzle.

Yeah, ok, I just wanted to use the word douchenozzle.

I even read his presentation (snicker, giggle) about those evil New Atheists. I LOLed. Point, thoroughly missed. Bravo!

Louis

That's right up there with "fuck-knuckles", Louis.

Heh-heh. Douchenozzle. It's even fun to type. Heh-heh.

Mr DoucheNozzle:

http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/super_special_dog_turkey/

Edited to give right episode.

Okay, that's just weird. Thank you.

Date: 2010/05/14 13:42:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 14 2010,11:32)
A comment from Yahoo.com today, a response to an article on Archaeopteryx being a glider, not a flyer:

Quote
I kinda agree with andrew if we are discussing motive ,but when the earth was destroyed by Noahs flood it was because of the mixing of the species,"every thing after its kind" and there was an unholy line of Dna {satin and his followers] they took wives FORCED woman to breed ,but since thwy didnt have human bodys they perverted what god did with Eve cloning ,and made bodys, they also perverted the animals "unclean animals" all so they could have sex and stop the genetic line of Jesus our only hope of coming home to God.This is how the profecy of Gen,was HIS SEED AND HER SEED genetic lines.also why the old test seems so violant very wicked time.
We underestimate the grace we currently have through Jesus satin cant breed since the cross,
this could answer allien abduction and there desire for spinal fluid of differant animals.
isnt it interesting big eyes serpant like skin no genitals.


I love the testable prediction "Since Satan can't breed, snakes have no genitals."

The labyrinthine incoherence is almost... Byersian.

Date: 2010/05/14 13:43:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
OT: "Asbury Park" is the best thing King Crimson ever did. Just sayin'.

Date: 2010/05/14 19:01:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Alan Fox @ May 14 2010,12:52)
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 10 2010,03:54)
Using my patented "typo's per word and curses per paragraph" stress analysis algorithm, Joe is flustered and not enjoying the current exchange.

You might find some material for stick-poking here, Rich.

Quote
Also the eye of today is not the designed eye. Meaning “bad design” could have crept in over the generations.


What with, you know, genetic entropy after Teh Fall, and everything.

Date: 2010/05/18 18:31:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kristine @ May 18 2010,11:14)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 17 2010,17:28)
Ayala did testify under oath, in McLean v. Arkansas in 1981.

Unfortunately, the transcript of his testimony is missing and probably irrecoverable at this point.

What? I didn't know that. I'm going to follow up on this.

"Give me the sixty-five, I'm on the job." -- Miracle Max

Date: 2010/05/19 01:05:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ May 18 2010,17:29)
Quote (Zachriel @ May 18 2010,19:20)
Quote
Zachriel:    
Quote
There are some oddities in the perspective with which we see the world. The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be, but we have done various things over intellectual history to slowly correct some of our misapprehensions.Douglas Adams


ID guy: We don't live at the bottom of a deep gravity well.

don provan: Wow. Just in case anyone was harboring illusions of you being credible…

ID guy: Except it isn't deep by any measure and only people living in Antarctica live near the bottom of it.

Bravo!

Wow! I thought you were kidding, but he really did say that. Maybe someone should ask him why it takes so much energy to get things into space.

!?!

We should be launching spacecraft from the top of the well, then? The North Pole?

The bog mindles.

Definitely Dwight.

Date: 2010/05/20 08:59:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (didymos @ May 20 2010,06:42)
Quote (BillB @ May 20 2010,02:02)
Thanks all ... anyone know a good cure for a hangover?

Well, it is partially due to withdrawal, so hair of the dog that bit you.  I.e., do a couple shots. Most people pass on that one, myself included.

Umm, water's always good. Probably want to get your blood sugar up a bit too. Pop a couple analgesics. No matter what though, you're still gonna be feeling it.  But just remember: you've got a Ph.D.

Yeah, lots of water. Preferably *while* you're drinking, but the next morning helps too.  Urban legend cures include lots of vitamin C, and greasy fried eggs. :-)

Congratulations!

Date: 2010/05/21 00:37:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy 360 degrees farther, Hermagoras.

Date: 2010/05/22 19:40:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ May 22 2010,10:39)
A stunning bird? What, did it carry a taser or something? :p

Henry

(insert pictures of Kristine, ERV, Kattarina, wolfhound, etc. here).

Date: 2010/05/22 19:47:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 22 2010,09:15)
(snip)
It is also relevant in audio productions. Most studios now make their takes in 24 bits/48000hz, or more, then have to process everything down to 16 bits/24000hz for commercial audio cd production. In doing so, we usually run through a series of dithering/anti-dithering processes. this is most notably due to the fact that a modern production chain will quite often be numeric and yet start from a digital workbench.

The alteration of audio signals is not something I could detail with 100% expertise, but adding white noise before a frequency shrinking can actually smooth the conversion...

How are you on video, SD?
I was in Future Shop today browsing their screens/monitors/TVs/whatever the hell they're called these days.  "I, Robot" on 2 different screens: one looked like film; one had that 2D, videotape look, like daytime soaps. Any idea why?

also, I hope the healing is coming along with no complications.

Date: 2010/05/23 11:10:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ May 23 2010,02:22)
Pfff back when I started doing chemistry, we still had to get rid of the phlogiston in our air.

In the snow.

And our dad used to slice us in two with a bread knife and dance on our graves singing hallelujah. Or something.

Louis

...What did you do with the aether, grampa?

Date: 2010/05/23 11:18:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ May 23 2010,00:43)
Sorry guys, nitpicking maybe, but something happens inside of me when I read about hz - or other units.
Hertz

That's the way that I am, can't help it.

Must have been a radioactivity-induced bit flip.

1101000 ->1001000

hz -> Hz.

Happy now?


edit: binary goof

Date: 2010/05/23 11:19:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2010,07:22)
I used to wonder why special effects look cheesier on DVD movies than they did on the big screen.

I've decided it is an artifact of scanning and sharpening of the image. It increases any contrast difference between background and the composited foreground elements.

It always looked like a depth-of-field issue to me.  On digital video everything is in focus at once.  Unlike real life.

Date: 2010/05/23 11:21:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 23 2010,00:06)
Quote
No updates from me for a while; I'm heading to the Amazon (Manaus and upstream) tomorrow, and will be there for a couple of weeks.


You bastard!

Have lots of fun, bring back some pics, and watch out for poison arrow frogs!

What he said.

Date: 2010/05/24 02:53:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Brava, Red!

Date: 2010/05/24 03:02:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ May 23 2010,20:25)
hz -> Hz?

Heinz Hertz?

Only if it gets in your eye.

Date: 2010/05/24 13:07:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dogdidit @ May 24 2010,06:52)
Yes. "Double dog dare" is not acceptable chem lab procedure, as much as your classmates might encourage you to think otherwise.  >:-(




A propos of nothing: desperately wanting to fit in really sucks.

Or as a housemate used to say when it was her turn to clean out the fridge:  "Ew, gross, smell this."

... and yes, dog. It's way more trouble than it's worth.

Date: 2010/05/24 13:11:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 24 2010,08:41)
Well, Kristine will be moving to DC soon. This means there will be at least a 200% surge in honesty and morality* overall for the whole district...

Shimmies kristine!!!










*please abuse responsibly

Hmm. I was just going to offer to mow her lawn.


(looks behind him) Is that the line, back there?

Date: 2010/05/24 13:15:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 24 2010,09:56)
Woo! I'm banned on that thread now.

Kevin Miller, where is MY film?

Sal writes:

http://telicthoughts.com/maybe-b....-258441

Quote
Salvador T. Cordova Says:
May 24th, 2010 at 12:47 pm Here is a photo of door of a professor at GMU. Notice he has no inhibition openly ridiculing Christian beliefs and creationist beliefs. Where is the sensitivity toward the beliefs of others?

http://www.youngcosmos.com/blog/archives/362

Ironically this professor pleads for toleration of Gay Lesbian and Transgenders. Talk about hipocrisy!


Comment by Salvador T. Cordova — May 24, 2010 @ 12:47 pm


I know, Sal, I know! Those gays have been picking on Christians for AGES!

Boo fucking hoo, Sal.

Don't want ridicule? Stop being ridiculous.  

IDiot.

Date: 2010/05/24 13:20:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dogdidit @ May 24 2010,06:28)
Quote (Quack @ May 23 2010,02:43)
Sorry guys, nitpicking maybe, but something happens inside of me when I read about hz - or other units.
Hertz

That's the way that I am, can't help it.

Yup. Physical units named after individuals are spelled out in lower case, but capitalized in abbreviation. Thus:

hertz -> Hz
newton -> N
watt -> W

OTOH units not derived from names (proper nouns) are lower case wheter spelled out or abbreviated:

foot -> ft
meter/metre -> m

Not entirely sure why, but dem's da rules.

then theres the multiplication prefixes....

re: edge sharpening. That would also explain why backgrounds come more into focus, giving the flat, direct-to-video appearance.

Tangentially: I really hate digital cameras and wish they hadn't taken over so fast. That annoying shutter delay makes me want to give them all flying lessons, down by the sea. GRRR!

Date: 2010/05/25 14:40:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ May 25 2010,07:06)
Quote
bornagain77: Dr. Nelson, the question of if Adam had a belly button is indeed a very important one:,,,

The all-important question is whether it was an innie or an outie.



-
edited to add picture and link to zoomable image.

"Come on, Adam, pull my finger. Pretty please?"

Date: 2010/05/28 16:39:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ May 28 2010,04:29)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 23 2010,08:06)
Quote
No updates from me for a while; I'm heading to the Amazon (Manaus and upstream) tomorrow, and will be there for a couple of weeks.


You bastard!

Have lots of fun, bring back some pics, and watch out for poison arrow frogs!

Thirded!

No taking naughty Amazonian hallucinogens that make you womit up your shoes whilst you're there.

Unless you really want to.

Louis

? after said hallucinogens make you eat your shoes???

Date: 2010/05/31 22:36:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 31 2010,14:58)
American scientists say they have developed a vaccine which has prevented breast cancer from developing in mice. The researchers - whose findings are published in the journal, Nature Medicine - are now planning to conduct trials of the drug in humans.

But that was this morning. What have they done this afternoon????

Then there's the report in this month's SciAm about the product that apparently attacks the lipo coating of some very lethal viruses... I gotta ask ERV about this one...

Date: 2010/05/31 22:38:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quacky birthday!

Oh, and Kattarina98, too! Where's she???

Date: 2010/06/02 18:44:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Jkrebs @ June 02 2010,13:38)
The "myth" of competition for resources???  What the hell does he mean by that?

Ask Steve P. on various PT threads. Apparently competition does not exist.

Date: 2010/06/04 11:02:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
gpuccio: We have three types of digital information: ...

c) pseudo-random strings, where a recognizable meaning is superimposed to the random structure by an intelligent designer (Hamlet, any software, any long discourse). And, obviouisly, any functional protein. These are dFSCI.


Obviously.  

Also, Mozart's "Jupiter" Symphony, and, obviously, any planetary system.

Loon.

Date: 2010/06/04 18:59:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 04 2010,16:19)
Quote (sledgehammer @ June 04 2010,18:30)
From Andrew McIntosh's endorsement of the edinburghcreationgroup:  "...all mechanical systems...require...ordered machinery in order to work.

IOW, all mechanical systems are mechanical systems. Why didn't I think of that?

They're still stuck in the "The Universe Is A Big Machine" paradigm.

Never mind that chemistry and physics do have a certain... order... to them.

Date: 2010/06/05 03:18:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 04 2010,21:26)
mullerpr masters ID Think in the Andy McIntosh thread:        
Quote
Ultimately, if it remains impossible to quantify meaning… It should not be a surprise because it could just as well mean that information or the product of intelligence does not have a mechanistic origin.

The supernatural cannot be understood.
Therefore, if something cannot be understood it's evidence of the supernatural. 
ID does not understand how information is generated.
Therefore, information is generated supernaturally.
Ditto for intelligence.
QED

Surely he's an FFDI (Future Fellow of the Discovery Institute).

And as we all know, information==meaning.

FSM what a bunch of high-school intellectual wanna-be's.  I can just picture them with their soap-bubble pipes...

Date: 2010/06/05 12:40:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ June 05 2010,09:49)
If you managed to read gpuccio's post you found a promising bit:        
Quote
(snip)

The point is, we can measure dFSCI, and if we are consistent with our definitions, the measure will be objective and useful.


I CAN HAS TEH MEASUREMENTS?

Heh. It's like the Protestant couple scene in "The Meaning of Life":  "We could have it any time we wanted..."

Date: 2010/06/05 12:44:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
       
Quote


You were born perfect, now I don't mean perfect like muscly body and everything is the "normal" conditions. I mean perfect as in you haven't sinned. I doubt that anybody has come out of their mother and shouted the f word.

Um... wot's "original sin", then? Isn't that why we're all supposedly in need of salvation in the first place?  HERESY!!!

... and shouting an Anglo-Saxon crudity for intercourse hurts baby Jesus how, exactly?

Date: 2010/06/06 12:58:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JLT @ June 06 2010,04:07)
I just watched a couple of Walter's videos and was blasted away by the power of his argument in video 6:
 
Quote
The Torah was in the process of being written 4000 to 6000 years ago ... The Koran was given by the late 7th century.

It would be totally improper and plagiaristic to add my own writings to either of these texts, claiming my writings to actually belong as a clarification for the statements of God; thereafter include my writings as theology theory.

Yet, strangely enough, Biology scientists, studying stratification fossils to base evidence for Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species engage the use of these exact logic methods, to justify their plagiaristic additions to the writings of Charles Darwin.

Religionists would not tolerate that manipulation to base a theory. Why do scientists?

Scream all you want it is a good question.

What is this I don't even

Simple:

1. Evilution is a religion, like Judaism
2. Jews don't fuck with the Torah.
3. Evilutionists shouldn't fuck with TOS.

Apparently he's never heard of the Talmud...

Date: 2010/06/07 09:32:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
OMG this guy is hilarious.

Okay, so if my 1. 2. 3. list was wrong, what on earth were you trying to say with that insane rant about the Torah and Darwin? Seriously, Wally, there's reading for comprehension, but you need to work on writing for comprehension.

So I used a bad word. Suck it up, princess. I'll probably do it again. As far as I know, the queen is not here.

Clue, Wally:  "Evilutionist" is a parody of creationist attitudes toward the facts.

Look, it's tragic that you've had all these medical problems and everything, but you're still a loon.  And that is no-one's fault but yours.

.. and...My own culture? WTF does that even mean? I'm a 3rd generation Canadian agnostic.

Date: 2010/06/07 09:43:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ June 07 2010,04:37)
Quote
Anyway, you can have restrictive gun laws and still allow hunting etc.

From my perspective here in Norway, it seems like overkill to have almost unlimited rights to buy & possess firearms to 'protect your family', weapons that I suppose mostly are used for murder besides shooting practice. (Any statistics, i.e. actual protection vs homicide?)

But I guess that's the American way of life, Europe is different in so many ways.

I don't know about the homicide v. protection stats, but a few years back stats came out showing that the murder rate (per capita) in the U.S. is 5x what it is here in Canada.

If you take out guns, the figures are about equal.

Date: 2010/06/07 10:14:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield


Bwahahahahahaha!

Thanks for sharing.

Date: 2010/06/07 16:49:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ June 07 2010,12:39)
I am concerned that preloaded evolution cannot explain how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

Needless to say that neither can CreationIDism, so that's makes them both useless and we can ignore them in favour of Assault Rifle Jesus's favourite bedtime story.

I think that we need to think outside the box whilst pushing the envelope into another box and refusing to accept dogma whilst challenging any and all attempts to cast a sceptical eye on anything.

It's all the fault of the communists and anyone who wants to prevent people praying in schools to nuclear missiles.

Louis

"The clarity is devastating, but where is the ambiguity? Over there, in a box."

Date: 2010/06/07 16:58:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hey, Wally?

Still there?

Just one more thing:

You vent about them sci-en-tif-ical types with all their high-falutin' language and stuff, and yet you engage in the worst linguistic obfuscation I've ever seen.  

It doesn't make you look like a poet, or an artiste, or particularly clever, it makes you look like you don't have the cojones to use straight talk to say what you really mean.  

Or that you don't even know what you really mean.

(Danger: Saxon word ahead!)...

Get to the fucking point, already.

Thank you.

Date: 2010/06/07 17:09:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ June 07 2010,12:32)
Quote (iWalter276 @ June 07 2010,20:25)
[SNIP]

Thank you Louis for at least being part way civil. And to the rest. Yes, I am real, just pushing the 'thinking envelope,' an exercise I would recommend.

You are most welcome. Now, that "thinking envelope", what's the postage for one of those?

Louis

A penny for your thoughts?  Or do you have to put your 2 cents in?  (pace Carlin).

Date: 2010/06/07 19:47:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ June 07 2010,16:00)
Quote
bornagain77: Please watch this video:

The Known Universe by AMNH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U

Please stop the video at the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, and then please note the centrality of the Earth’s position in the universe. If we are now completely removed from any cosmic significance , as the quote you cite directly implies, why in the blue blazes are we in such a privileged position of centrality from our unique perspective of observation in the universe?

Why is bornagain77 at the center of everything he sees? Why do the stars revolve around him? Why is he at the mid-point of the Cosmic Background?

Why is bornagain77 central to his own perspective?!?

and when I walk down the street, I can see the sun clearly follows me.

Date: 2010/06/07 19:50:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dnmlthr @ June 07 2010,15:12)
What do you make of this list? According to it the US has more than twice the murder rate of the UK and more than 7 times the murder rate of Norway.

According to numbers from BRÅ[1] (the "crime prevention organization" of Sweden, a source of crime statistics) it's also around 5 times the murder rate of Sweden. I cannot speak for Norway, but according to an article citing information from the central police authority in Sweden around 1 in 4.6 people  [2] have a firearms license. I could however not find a source for how many firearms that are owned by private citizens.

The numbers have nothing to do with my main point however, which is this: the reason I find guns unnerving is the ease with which they facilitate the escalation of conflict. Any reasonably healthy (physically) person could bludgeon another person to death with any number of things typically found in a normal home, but it'd take a lot more than the mere twitch of a finger.

Edit: Speling.

Is it broken down into murders involving/not involving guns?

Date: 2010/06/09 01:00:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Peter Henderson @ June 08 2010,11:51)
Anyone have a good way of getting rid of mice ?

The ones I have under my stairs are damned clever. I think they've evolved

Moth balls.

(waits for the obvious comment from Louis...)

Yes, mice are cute, but they leave that annoying black rice everywhere...

Date: 2010/06/09 09:51:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ June 08 2010,23:35)
Quote
Yes, mice are cute, but they leave that annoying black rice everywhere...


Think Coco Pops...

Don't want to know what you'd use for milk, in that case.

Date: 2010/06/10 12:29:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ June 10 2010,03:52)
Quote (Doc Bill @ June 10 2010,04:16)
[SNIP]

(Actually, I paid for 3 and the other I stole from Louis.)

Damn! I wondered where that had gone. Which one did you steal, was it the PhD in Beeronomics from the Institute of Applied Drunkenness or the PhD in Truthiness from the Department of Creationist Emulation?

Louis

Maybe he meant that out of the pretty penny he paid for 4 Fuds, he paid for 3 himself.

He owes you a farthing.

Date: 2010/06/10 12:39:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ June 10 2010,04:49)

Zach,

any idea why it's Canada with a *?

Thanks,

Date: 2010/06/10 12:41:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 10 2010,09:18)
I have to assume for the rapid fire posters, work is an alien concept.

They might fail to see nuances, such as a difference between slave labor and a vocation.

Looks t' me like them Fay-dross and DonaldM is a buncha freeloadin' hippies whut never done a lick a' work in their lives....

Date: 2010/06/10 16:23:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ June 10 2010,11:56)
     
Quote (fnxtr @ June 10 2010,12:39)
Zach,

any idea why it's Canada with a *?

Thanks,

* I think it means "Too busy crying that another year goes by and they can't win at hockey, a game they invented." Go Blackhawks!


Quite right (shrug). Too bad for us.... how many Canadians on the Chicago team, btw?

Whatever. See you at the next Winter Olympics, J-Dog. ;-)



   
Quote

** Alternatively, "Too busy crying that another year goes by, and they still have Denyse O'leary as a citizen, dragging down their national writing and IQ scores".


We've had this conversation before.

Date: 2010/06/11 10:57:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 18 2008,21:14)
I think GG could be more successful if he presented his "the universe is set up for discovery" BS in the way Billy Preston did it.

"Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'"?

Date: 2010/06/13 14:47:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ June 13 2010,12:26)
Quote
Se non potete tagliare la senape, è migliore da essere pensato un martire alla vostra credenza religiosa che un semplice fuckup.

Wisdom transformed into poetry!

Looks like it would make a great aria.  Not sure how to advise the singer to pronounce "fuckup" with an Italian accent, tho...

Date: 2010/06/13 14:53:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ June 13 2010,04:44)
Quote (Peter Henderson @ June 13 2010,05:29)
Do the Americans even realise the world cup is taking place ?

Oh, we're aware of it.  It even made the Daily Show, as SD mentioned above.

Soccer/Football is just not high on our sports hierarchy.  It has gained some popularity, but it still ranks down on the list.  If a miracle occurred and the US team made the finals I think it would generate a lot of excitement.  

Right now we are in the midst of the NBA finals.  My Celtics are playing the Los Angeles Lakers tonight in game 5.

BEAT LA!   BEAT LA!   BEAT LA!

Speaking of, who's the first knob who decided to pronounce it "Seltiks", anyway?

Date: 2010/06/15 00:40:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Is that the stolen XVIVO video?

Date: 2010/06/15 13:02:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ June 15 2010,10:15)
Okay...

This guy right above me wins the looney-bin award.

Quote
So this friends dream was just yet another time God was screaming " to remember!" at me. but if he hadn't called me a Mammoth which made me mad as h=ll. I mean what woman wants to be called a mammoth!..


Gal. But yes.

Date: 2010/06/15 13:04:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
But it did get me wondering... what did mammoths eat? How cold was it?

Date: 2010/06/16 01:58:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dhogaza @ June 15 2010,16:22)
Also, American Football is actually a Canadian import ...

then enwimpened: smaller field and an extra down.

Date: 2010/06/16 18:06:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ June 16 2010,15:34)
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 16 2010,23:30)
Among the Mexian soccer fans I know, the hot rumor is that the balls being used are non-standard and that this is why more goals are being scored- the goalies cannot "read" the new ball's spin, or bounce.

Paranoia, or is there some possible basis?

Seems the ball is 400 grams, slick as a post-McDonald floater, and very fast*. They are not the first to complain.






*Not talking about Louis' *balls* here! Move along...

is 400 grams the same size as a regulation ball? Let's ask Joe G.!

Date: 2010/06/16 22:01:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Hermagoras @ June 16 2010,19:53)
Gil is a psychiatrist now:  
Quote
Steve Matheson is a certifiable kook, who is obviously suffering from the double mental illness of delusions of grandeur enhanced by irrational, paranoid conspiracy theories.

His essay makes this conclusion obvious. He should seek professional help immediately, before this pathology mutates into something more serious.

Heh. Unlike Gil, who has delusions of adequacy.

Date: 2010/06/17 14:35:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (JohnW @ June 17 2010,12:30)
Thanks everyone.  Sorry for not replying yesterday, but it took most of the day to read Gordon Mullings' card, and then it was time for my vuvuzela lesson.  (Drink.  Blow.  Drink.  Drink.  Drink...)

I guess it would be culturally insensitive to mention that these 'traditional South African instruments' look a lot like the plastic horns we used to get at the summer fairs in the 70's.

Date: 2010/06/18 13:07:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ June 18 2010,10:35)
[quote=JohnW,June 18 2010,12:18][/quote]
Quote
Quote (Robin @ June 18 2010,09:46)
I know...I know...I shouldn't be saying this, but...

We tied we tied we tied we tied we tied with Slovenia!!!

:D

Had to be Slovene to be believed.


(Channeling his best Michael Palin) Stop it stop it! Right! They'll be no more o' that kind of silliness!

The Colonel was Graham Chapman.  Glad to be of service.

Date: 2010/06/18 13:09:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (fnxtr @ June 18 2010,11:07)
Quote (Robin @ June 18 2010,10:35)
Quote (JohnW @ June 18 2010,12:18)

 
Quote
 
Quote (Robin @ June 18 2010,09:46)
I know...I know...I shouldn't be saying this, but...

We tied we tied we tied we tied we tied with Slovenia!!!

:D

Had to be Slovene to be believed.


(Channeling his best Michael Palin) Stop it stop it! Right! They'll be no more o' that kind of silliness!

The Colonel was Graham Chapman.  Glad to be of service.

'course your right if you're thinking of the King of Swamp Castle. "And NO Singin'!"

Date: 2010/06/20 21:26:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tom Ames @ June 19 2010,20:04)
I think we should give Wells his due: he DID put forward an actual model (a little helical screw inside the centriole makes it function like a turbine) and suggest ways to test it (by direct visualization in high resolution images of the centrosome at metaphase, the observation of wobbly vortexer-like action, etc.).

It's a stupid model, but I don't recall anything else from the IDers approaching that level of detail. The fact that no-one--not even Wells--followed up on this is pretty good evidence of his motivations in writing the paper. If he ever speaks in public I'd like to ask him how that model has worked out in the five years since. Has there been any further evidence for or against it?

Ontogenetic Depth belongs on the Tardheap, but I think Wells' centriole model is king of the hill.

But anyway, Southwark.

Then there was that bozo on PT once with his "Law of Increasing Complexity".  Wonder how that could be reconciled with "Genetic Entropy".  Stuff gets more complicated, and thus less perfect?  I had a writer friend posit the idea once that rewrites are never as good as the original, even if it was just a rough draft. HA!

Neasden.

Date: 2010/06/21 08:34:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ June 20 2010,23:10)
Quote
I had a writer friend posit the idea once that rewrites are never as good as the original, even if it was just a rough draft. HA!

Maybe not quite the same thing, but no written text of mine ever approaches the clarity and stringency of the superbly worded chain of thought that triggered my attempt at writing it down; only to decide that the c**p isn't even publishable. So there.

I think what he was feeling but not saying was that editing and rewriting isn't nearly the rush of getting the idea in the first place.  Clarity? Many's the time I look and old notes and go, "Uh... what?"

Date: 2010/06/23 11:13:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Okay, *now* happy birthday, Deadman.

Date: 2010/06/24 11:22:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Ra-Úl @ June 23 2010,12:32)
Feliz Cumpleaños, Mr. Deadman! Notice the use of the ‘ñ,’ ‘cause cumple-anos sounds and looks downright unpleasant.

Back in 1992 when QE II referred to the year as the "annus horribilis", our local so-called newspaper spelled it with one 'n'.  This same paper abbreviated Department of National Defense as "D and D" (DND, get it?).

Sad, really.

Date: 2010/06/24 18:40:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ June 24 2010,15:35)
Quote (MichaelJ @ June 24 2010,16:36)
Quote (MichaelJ @ June 25 2010,07:28)
 
Quote (Maya @ June 25 2010,06:50)
 
Quote (dvunkannon @ June 24 2010,06:55)
Nakashima has decided to use Google SideWiki to comment on UD. His deleted posts from the Destroy the DI thread are now available.

I've started adding comments there as well.  It would be interesting to pipe all of this AtBC thread into SideWiki on UD.

I've just installed it for Chrome. I get a dialog to enter comments but I can't see any other comments

I found four comments on the main page but nothing on individual entries

Most of the entries have no comments, but I can see Nakashima's (and my one) on The Discovery Institute Needs To Be Destroyed thread.

"ID delenda est."

Date: 2010/06/25 17:37:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 25 2010,05:18)
Some of you may have heard of the TransOcean/BP/Halliburton/Macondo Prospect/Mississippi Canyon 252 incident/oil spill currently ongoing in the Gulf of Mexico.

I've been pitching an idea around concerning acoustic monitoring of snapping shrimp. If you don't already know, these are small shrimp that use one oversized claw to "snap", an abrupt motion that causes a cavitation event. This can stun or kill outright small prey items. The snaps are also very, very loud. Where there are snapping shrimp, there tend to be quite high numbers of them: in seagrass, in rocks, in coral reefs. Thus, in the near-shore, structured environments favored by snapping shrimp, there is usually a pervasive noise from the collective snapping of the whole population of these shrimp. The noise is broadband, with a peak frequency up around 50kHz. But because the energy is broadband, there's plenty to be heard in the usual human audio range of 20Hz to 20kHz.

I'm aiming toward a citizen scientist project based on acoustic monitoring of snapping shrimp. The first installment on that is here.

When does the Snapping Shrimp Orchestra CD come out? Christmas?

Date: 2010/06/29 01:19:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ June 28 2010,20:23)
Aren't his followers aware of the fate of PROGRESS in COMPLEXITY, INFORMATION, and DESIGN (PCID)?

Sweet:

 
Quote
ISCID is pleased to announce the latest issue of PCID, Volume 4.2 November 2005.

Date: 2010/06/29 11:00:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 29 2010,07:52)
ALRIGHT SHUT UP AND LISTEN BECAUSE I'M ESPLAINING.

THE STOIC FORM OF ROBOCOP WORKS ON MANY LEVELS, YES HE COULD BE 'METHODOLOICAL NATURALISM' LIKE ALL UP ON THE BACK OF THEISM AND SHIT LIKE HEY SETTLEDOWN I'M IN CHARGE, HE COULD BE A METAPHOR FOR TRANSHUAMISM AND THE EXTROPIAN REPLACEMENT OF WHAT POPPER DESCRIBED AS 'THE POVERTY OF HISTORICISM' WITH A NEW, INSPIRING PATHWAY TO SELF-ACTUALISATION OR HE COULD BE PART MAN, PART MACHINE BUT ALL COP. BUT A MORE SOPHISTAICATED VIEWING SHOWS THAT THE UNICORN HAS CLOVEN HOOVES EVOKING AT ONE LEVEL THE DARK SIDE OF RELIGIOSITY AND AT ANOTHER ITS OWN INCOHERENCE WITH A NATURALISTIC NARRATIVE.

HANG ON I'M OFF FOR A POO WILL CONTINUE LATER.

Meganfox? Is that you?

Date: 2010/06/29 11:02:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ June 29 2010,05:43)
Quote (afarensis @ June 29 2010,12:59)
I didn't expect that...

There are several things which no one expects. Some of them are distinctly interrogative and Hispanic.

Louis

With diverse elements amongst their weaponry.

Date: 2010/06/29 11:38:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Erm... I'm having a bit of trouble with an image link. It just posts the html code. Tried resizing to max-width. Advice?

eta: never mind. See below. Thanks.

Date: 2010/06/29 11:42:26, Link
Author: fnxtr


Got it!

Vermilion sea star, Pisaster ochraceus, off Seal Bay, Vancouver Island, July 2007. Just before my Canon Ftb crapped out.  :-(

Date: 2010/06/29 19:22:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 29 2010,15:53)
Is that in a tide pool, or do you have an underwater housing for a Canon FTb? If the latter, eBay has lots of FTb bodies going for cheap.

Low tide.  The camera just needs some shutter work, but I think I'll just save up for a DSLR.  Film is being discouraged at the photo boutiques I drop in to. But thanks, Wes.

Date: 2010/06/29 19:26:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ June 29 2010,16:45)
Sal Cordova was too busy making a design inference because his fingers fit exactly into his ears.

That. is. beautiful. !!!
I may sig-nify it soon. (sig-matize?)

Date: 2010/06/29 19:31:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 29 2010,14:38)
   
Quote (Beelzebub667 @ June 29 2010,16:35)
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.  Nice that you recorded it for posterity.

His little world can't have too much any reality in it..

FTFY

Date: 2010/06/30 10:56:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ June 30 2010,06:18)
BR 549.

Nice touch.

Date: 2010/07/01 15:07:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Bravo, sturgeon. :-)

Date: 2010/07/03 01:23:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Ikonboard has exited with the following error:

Hey! Trying the "forum" link from PT gives this:

Can't query the data from 'active_sessions' Reason: Table 'ib_active_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired Query: SELECT * FROM ib_active_sessions WHERE RUNNING_TIME > 1278136762 ORDER BY RUNNING_TIME DESC

This error was reported at: Sources/iDatabase/Driver/mySQL.pm line 269.

Please note that your 'real' paths have been removed to protect your information.

Date: 2010/07/03 13:07:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Have a magnificent birthday, you bastard. :-)

Date: 2010/07/04 13:19:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 03 2010,15:56)
My exchange with StephenB at First Things has drawn to a close, as he ducked out days ago.

His last post closed with, "So, I will ask you for the fourth time. What is your response to that evidence?" I provided a 1,600 word reply. To which, apparently, he has no response.

The final state of his argument:




[ETA: stuff]

Classic Marv Newland. God I howled the first time I watched that. It's right up there with Snookles.

Date: 2010/07/05 15:32:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Phappy Pbirthday, Ptaylor!

Date: 2010/07/06 10:23:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Looks like clowns in every ring to me.

Date: 2010/07/06 13:03:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ July 06 2010,10:41)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 06 2010,10:23)
Looks like clowns in every ring to me.

Clowns to the Left. Jokers to the right.

No, that's politics. :-)

Date: 2010/07/06 13:05:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Mindrover @ July 06 2010,09:33)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 06 2010,10:35)
MOAR RAGE!

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2010....go.html

https://www.blogger.com/comment....6680304

Wow. JoeG sure seems desperate for OlegT to notice him. Oleg may wish to respond or suffer JoeG's next attempt - fishnet stockings and makeup.

*brain explodes with the image*

Date: 2010/07/06 13:07:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 05 2010,12:14)
Home improvements nearly done..





Magnificent.

Dibs on the sofa by the window!

Date: 2010/07/09 12:52:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hot cocoa with Maker's Mark.  That's all I have to say.

Date: 2010/07/09 15:41:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 09 2010,11:18)
A cockroach has come out of the woodwo .... erm, I mean, FL is derailing a Panda thread with his FIVE GREAT IMCOMPATIBILITIES.
I thought you had demoli ... erm, I mean, demoralized him (sigh) ...
http://tinyurl.com/2vkn3mn

I said it there and I'll say it here. No one has to justify their faith to that pompous blowhard. We're not in his church so he can go suck it.

Date: 2010/07/09 15:43:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ July 09 2010,07:27)
Quote (Robin @ July 09 2010,10:23)
Just curious, but what has this warvarmint...thing...have to do with Vox Day?

I think he invented it.

... in one of the most peculiar expressions of overcompensation ever.

Date: 2010/07/10 12:01:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Whoa! Great shots Alby!  Macro lens?

Date: 2010/07/13 12:24:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'd agree with you -- the tu quoque stance is classic GI Joe -- but TB doesn't use the word "asshole" enough.

Date: 2010/07/13 14:04:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
"encoded abstractions"?!?? What the fuck?!?

You're being Sokal'ed.

Date: 2010/07/14 23:47:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (madbat.089 @ July 14 2010,20:26)
cheeez - that finally EXPLAINS it: since kairofocus is an animal, it does follow that he is a cat, that creates his posts by randomly jumping around on the keyboard!!!!

KF is archy? But Archy wasn't the cat, Mehitabel was!

... this logic stuff is hard....

Date: 2010/07/15 10:15:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 14 2010,21:48)
Has anyone read "The Handmaid's Tale"?

Thoughts?

Scary dystopic scenario, boring writing.

Date: 2010/07/15 12:15:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
There was a brief flurry of "what are you reading" on the local PT bathroom wall. I'll repeat my recommendation of anything by Iain (M.) Banks (science fiction like "The Algebraist" or "Against a Dark Background", or more reality-based stuff like "Espedair Street"), or Gregory Benford.

Date: 2010/07/15 18:12:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Aye, happy sun-spins.

Date: 2010/07/15 18:17:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Trying to parse what you meant by that last sentence, MichaelJ.  

You mean "it's unfortunate that if you're conservative you're expected to swallow all this other crap too"?

Or "these things give the right a bad name"???

Date: 2010/07/15 18:20:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
They've since shortened the title to The Handmaid's Tale.
;-)

Date: 2010/07/15 21:41:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sock Puppetry at its finest.  Starts at 1:20 or so.

Date: 2010/07/16 12:51:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
I wonder if that's a case of society outpacing the abilities of its members.  

As the world becomes more complex and technology-dependent, we need more individuals capable of understanding it, but the average kid hasn't become any smarter, or any more motivated to "do science", than they were in 1950.  

The small Canadian town I grew up in in the 70's was still 80% lugnuts and anti-learning.  

Some kids get the message that post-secondary education is vital these days, but they get it too late, or don't realize just how much <i>work</i> it can be.

Date: 2010/07/16 12:53:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Crap. Wrong brackets.

Date: 2010/07/16 12:56:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 16 2010,09:53)
Quote (Aardvark @ July 16 2010,11:19)
fifth monarchy man Says:

 
Quote
I have a personal relationship with God the same way that I have a personal relationship with my wife.


I just dunno.

Given how many people his god is supposed to have a personal relationship with, what does that say about his wife?

Zing!!!

I have a personal relationship with the dryads living in the forest behind my house. No, I've never seen them, but I believe in them and talk to them, which is convincing evidence they're real.

(headshake).

Date: 2010/07/16 13:02:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ July 16 2010,06:23)
Quote (Doc Bill @ July 16 2010,13:43)
I started Valentine's "On the Origin of Phyla" about a month ago.

I'm on page vii.

Should be finished when there are no more phyla to observe.

I felt that way about Gould's Brick the first time I read it. It took the first week of the holiday to get through the introduction. I sped up after then luckily but DAMN. I thought new species would pop into existence around me before I read the thing.

Louis

So the rest of the tome isn't as dense as the intro? That's encouraging, maybe I should take another stab at it...

Date: 2010/07/16 13:46:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 16 2010,04:36)
As you may know, there is a bit of a controversy in France these days regarding a law that would ban burqas and niqabs from public spaces.

I am all in favor of such a law, as is the majority of the French population.

Apparently, the US administration condemns such a law, on the basis that it would restrict freedom of religion and would condemn the women sporting a full veil to staying home.

A lot could be said about the reality of the situation here in Europe, and Chrisdtopher Hitchens has a few thoughts to share about this issue:


June 30th 2009

May 10th 2010

Any thoughts?

I disagreed at first, just reacting to interference with religious practices. But that's some lucid and compelling writing. Thanks for pointing that out, Dog.

Date: 2010/07/16 17:59:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Raevmo @ July 16 2010,13:38)
 
Quote
Just an FYI, but when I clicked on the links above an hour or so ago, I got a pop-up for some malware trojan called "Your Protection". Both seemed to redirect to the site where I got a message like "Warning: Your computer could be infected! Would you like to run a scan now?" There was no "no" choice". I just Went to Task Manager and shut down my browser, though it still tried to load.

Same here.

??

What links? Aardvark's link to telic thoughts? Works fine for me...

Date: 2010/07/19 12:35:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 19 2010,08:36)
I've just come back from the English bookshop next to our local university (where I bought "Eight Little Piggies"). Next to Dawkins and Darwin I spotted WAD's "Debating Design". The owner explained that it was the last one of a batch ordered by a professor for his class: "I would not dream of having this book in stock."

America, thanks a heap for exporting ID to Europe.

"Edge of Evolution" (why does that sound like the title of a daytime drama to me?) is sitting next to "The Selfish Gene" and "Hens' Teeth and Horses' Toes" in our local library. I actually took it off the shelf and looked at the back, but just couldn't bring myself to sign it out.

Think I should?

Date: 2010/07/19 12:39:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 19 2010,08:20)
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 19 2010,08:42)
 
Quote
In 2009, BBC News reported that Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, stated that Australian wallabies had been found creating crop circles in fields of poppies after consuming some of the opiate-laden crop and running in circles.

Note to self: Next time I'm in New Zealand, I must hop over to Tasmania.

I'm thinking maybe the wallabies weren't the only ones samping the crop... were they actual Papaver somniferum, or some other variety?

Date: 2010/07/20 22:18:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy Birthday, fusilier.  Many more years of fusilli to you.

Date: 2010/07/20 22:22:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ July 20 2010,07:48)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 16 2010,19:02)
Quote (Louis @ July 16 2010,06:23)
 
Quote (Doc Bill @ July 16 2010,13:43)
I started Valentine's "On the Origin of Phyla" about a month ago.

I'm on page vii.

Should be finished when there are no more phyla to observe.

I felt that way about Gould's Brick the first time I read it. It took the first week of the holiday to get through the introduction. I sped up after then luckily but DAMN. I thought new species would pop into existence around me before I read the thing.

Louis

So the rest of the tome isn't as dense as the intro? That's encouraging, maybe I should take another stab at it...

Less dense? Not really. I just made more effort!

Louis

Well I signed it out again and started plowing. I guess I just expected to quick a return on my investment last time.  

Man he sure does a lot of prep work.  "I'm going to tell what these three things are. Later. But here's why the three things, which I will tell you about later, are important."

And I did move one IDC book to its proper place in the  religion section before, but I don't think it was E of E.

Date: 2010/07/21 11:33:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (fusilier @ July 21 2010,05:58)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 20 2010,23:18)
Happy Birthday, fusilier.  Many more years of fusilli to you.

Jes suis un fusilier, not a pasta cook.


(Not much of a cook at all, to be honest)

Ok, well, many more years of fuselage, then.

Date: 2010/07/22 11:32:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 22 2010,09:28)
Quote (Robin @ July 22 2010,09:49)
"...new bulb in that..." OM, you crack me up!

Why thank you :) I try!

Seeing as how the current bulb is rather dim.

Date: 2010/07/22 11:38:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (gravity well @ July 22 2010,03:07)
stop everything! they've found Woodhenge!!

Only Strawhenge left....

um, ok, carry on I guess.

What about Brickhenge? Reedhenge? Wattle-and-daubhenge? Lath-and-plasterhenge?  Extrudedpolymerhenge? MDFhenge?

Date: 2010/07/22 14:20:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
A few of my long-suffering friends are hoping this can help them:

Botanical progesterone???

Date: 2010/07/22 14:36:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
In other wildlife news, my sister heard I was tubing down the Puntledge on Vancouver Island and sent me this youtube video about the Itchetuknee. Looks like heaven.

Date: 2010/07/22 14:36:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Mindrover @ July 22 2010,12:31)
Quote (Henry J @ July 22 2010,14:10)
...

...

easy for you to say.

Date: 2010/07/22 23:26:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ July 22 2010,21:17)
If I understand R. Marks correctly there is something like computing for Jesus..
According to the source Marks is now one of "The 20 most brilliant Christian Professors".

Quote
Dr. Marks is interested in doing his work to bring honor to Jesus Christ. He's committed to following Jesus Christ first and honoring him first and he sees his research as a way of doing that


What the hell does that even mean?
Jesus somehow needs Marks' help? That's not very pious.

Date: 2010/07/23 00:17:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ July 22 2010,22:13)
I do that every year!  It's a lot of fun.  Grab a tube, mask, and snorkle and have a great time.  I'll be going in about 2 weeks to test out my sleek new Bikini Body.  RAWR!

I figgered you'd spot that post, Wolfie. :-)  

Judy keeps saying we should come visit, but it's a bit of a hike from Vancouver Island.

Date: 2010/07/23 10:17:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ July 23 2010,07:55)
FYI...

 
Quote
You'd expect a lot from a bottle of beer costing $765. What you get is 55 percent alcohol — and served in a squirrel.

According to Scottish firm BrewDog, "The End of History" is the "strongest, most expensive and most shocking beer in the world."


The End of History Beer



I want one several

Grey squirrel or red squirrel?

Either way, that's just ghoulish.

Date: 2010/07/23 10:29:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 23 2010,07:06)
Quote
* In Germany e.g., I'm not aware of any politician/political party ever mentioning evolution at all, one way or the other.

With the exception of Karin Wolff, former minister of education of Hessen, member of the Christian Democrats, who tried to introduce the Genesis to the biology curriculum.
http://tinyurl.com/2wz3c3c
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_Wolff

Leider, mein Deutsche saugt.  Zwei Jahre an der Uni, und ich noch fast Nichts kann.

Date: 2010/07/23 11:15:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 23 2010,08:49)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 23 2010,10:29)
 
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 23 2010,07:06)
   
Quote
* In Germany e.g., I'm not aware of any politician/political party ever mentioning evolution at all, one way or the other.

With the exception of Karin Wolff, former minister of education of Hessen, member of the Christian Democrats, who tried to introduce the Genesis to the biology curriculum.
http://tinyurl.com/2wz3c3c
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_Wolff

Leider, mein Deutsche saugt.  Zwei Jahre an der Uni, und ich noch fast Nichts kann.

Wrong uni - come to Munich.  :D

The only English article Google found was on a Trotskist site - so I didn't link to it. The English Wikipedia does not mention the incident.
Basically, she is a fundamentalist nutcase and got a severe bashing not only from scientists, but even from members of her own party.

Well, I was actually there to get a music degree, I just needed a language credit and liked Deutsche better than Franzoesische.  It helped me translate the liner notes of the Einsturzende Neubauten albums at the campus radio station. :-)

Date: 2010/07/25 15:07:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sparc @ July 23 2010,21:44)
As always bfast remains fundamental on this issue:  
Quote
2
bFast
07/23/2010
11:45 am

Dr. Venter is a plagerist.

No, the Beach Boys were plagerists.

Okay, I did take a little bit of high school French.

Date: 2010/07/26 10:51:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
We are losing this culture, and sadly, much of the church is to blame for compromising God’s Word with the pagan religion of the age (millions of years/evolution) to explain life without God.


Um, no. You're losing this culture 'cause the world grew up, and you didn't.

Fool.

Date: 2010/07/26 10:52:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 26 2010,08:48)
Quote (Amadan @ July 26 2010,10:40)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 26 2010,10:22)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 26 2010,00:50)
Read Ham's article, you won't be disappointed.

And to think that DoubleDoctor must swallow it for the sake of the Big Tent ...

[Mental image censored]

One swallow does not a hummer make!

You're a little pun gent today, richardthughes.

Date: 2010/07/26 10:59:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy Birthday Afarensis!

("The secret is to bang the rocks together.")

Yeah, she's hawt, and so's her sister. Rowr.

Date: 2010/07/27 17:24:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ July 27 2010,13:12)
Quote (ppb @ July 26 2010,11:39)
PS to Dvunkannon:  Who is she?  She's Bones.

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a sex symbol!

Or as we have it our circles:  Dammit, Jim, I'm a drummer, not a musician!

Date: 2010/07/27 17:35:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 27 2010,15:27)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 27 2010,23:24)
 
Quote (dvunkannon @ July 27 2010,13:12)
 
Quote (ppb @ July 26 2010,11:39)
PS to Dvunkannon:  Who is she?  She's Bones.

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a sex symbol!

Or as we have it our circles:  Dammit, Jim, I'm a drummer, not a musician!

I am Phil Giordana, and I approve this message.


Thanks, Phil. I'm central nervous system on soundcloud. Cheers.

Date: 2010/07/28 08:54:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
... and we're back!

Sutton Hoo.

Date: 2010/07/28 16:10:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 28 2010,06:01)
Mmmhh.. Ok

Next time I'll select my nick more wisely. Any chance to change it without loosing my history? (I really think it's burdensome for others to write my nick whenever they adress me, and I am not anonymous, everybody can find out who I am)...


Thanks Wes!

"he only had the two arms and the one head and he called himself Phil..."

Date: 2010/07/28 16:20:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Butting in. If we're doing historical sites and airports, then I just wanna say:

Nazca

Date: 2010/07/28 18:55:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ July 28 2010,16:51)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 28 2010,17:20)
Butting in. If we're doing historical sites and airports, then I just wanna say:

Nazca

Now you've done it.  You've played the Zappa/von Däniken variation.  

Since you've opened the door, I'm going to make a move inspired by some genuine ancient astronauts.

Sea of Tranquility

If you don't like it, take a look at this video of someone telling Buzz Aldrin it's not a legal MC move.

Chad Kroeger did the same thing to someone outside a Vancouver club who shouted "Nickelback sucks!"

Just sayin'.

Date: 2010/07/28 19:01:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
iii), translated, means "Nature is full of a bunch of weird shit that actually works. Therefore Jesus."

edit: formatting.

Date: 2010/07/28 23:00:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 28 2010,18:48)
Denyse spreads herself out...

Okay, right there I went EWWWWWWW!!!!

Ew Ew Ew.

Ew.

Date: 2010/07/28 23:01:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ July 28 2010,18:20)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 28 2010,19:55)
Chad Kroeger did the same thing to someone outside a Vancouver club who shouted "Nickelback sucks!"

Just sayin'.

Was Chad Kroeger 70 at the time?

Just askin'.

No. And the other difference is, the guy outside the club was right.

Date: 2010/07/29 10:16:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 29 2010,08:05)
StephenB:
 
Quote
I know of textbooks dated as late as 2004 that use colorized versions of Haeckel-like drawings and they are not there to provide “historical context.” On the contrary, they are used to argue on behalf of evolution.


Could be interesting....

Will he be able to provide a specific title? I doubt it.

"colorized versions of Haeckel-like drawings"

leaves lots of wiggle room.

Plus he spelled "colour" wrong.

Date: 2010/07/29 10:23:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (ppb @ July 29 2010,07:40)
Quote (Louis @ July 29 2010,05:07)
Beta Centauri? The Sea of Tranquility? I fear these places are not on the London Underground System and thus would not be approved by the MCC*. No one fucks with the MCC.


fnxtr started it.  :angry:

Boston Manor


Never did!  I was playing within the Provisional Restructuring of... er... July 27th!  Anyway our self-proclaimed Moderator didn't say anything about No South American Sites.

But whatever.  I'm flexible (cue Michael Scott).

Rickmansworth.

Date: 2010/07/30 12:13:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ July 30 2010,08:57)
And lactose tolerance would be losing the information for lactose intolerance.

Heads I win, tails you lose!

Well, sure, see, you lost the ability to shut off lactase production.

Resistance/immunity to any disease is the loss of binding ability.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Date: 2010/07/30 16:30:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Bloody hell. He's over on PT now crapping all over the "random responses to Luskin" thread.  Full of sound and fury...

Date: 2010/07/30 16:33:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 30 2010,11:33)
http://www.springerlink.com/content/60814261078l485q/

AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Sorry I have zero patience for the "how do we know anything is true" onanism.

Date: 2010/07/30 16:47:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Never seen this thread before.

'SCUSE ME! GUITAR PLAYER COMIN' THROUGH!!!

Me and my '80 Aria Pro II SH-1000 semi-hollow through-neck, the one with the black-box pre-amp:

Sorry about the size (I say that a lot).

Since changed the machine heads to all-metal 16:1.

Date: 2010/07/30 16:51:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dnmlthr @ April 16 2009,13:46)
Quote (Steviepinhead @ April 16 2009,21:09)
Surely SOMEONE hear must've heard some good music or acquired a scintillating and irresistable new ax since August of last year...right?

Despite the ongoing, er, global contraction (breathe, honey, breathe!).

If so, let us know.   ;)

I got myself a Roland RE-201 Space Echo some time ago, albeit away on loan at the moment.

Reeeeeally? I loved futzing with that unit at Offerman's Studio in Nelson.

I've still got a DDR-3000 but there's a bad solder joint in it somewhere, I get ground hum and weird swirlies when it warms up. :-(

Date: 2010/07/31 12:19:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
a.s.s.f.

Date: 2010/07/31 15:19:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (REC @ July 31 2010,12:34)
jadavison said...

Cornelius

Will you please remove my weblog from your links. I find your behavior and tactics embarrassing and I want nothing more to do with you or your clientele. If you don't remove it, I will alert the world that you refused me!

jadavison.wordpress.com

Thanks.

I love it so!!!

... and boy, won't the world be pissed off about that!

Yawn.

Date: 2010/07/31 15:20:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 31 2010,12:16)
Joe,
Quote
If you want to discuss something with me this is the place to do so.

In fact, if you want to discuss something with us then the place to do so is this thread.

Funny how the one place not open to censorship in your favour is also the least frequented of all your hangouts.

Not that funny at all I suppose. How you liking PT? To your taste? Converted anyone yet?

He bailed, actually. I guess no-one took him up on his trolling for hits at his site.

Date: 2010/08/01 21:16:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 01 2010,14:17)
Quote
And Lord's belongs to the MCC, So God is an Englishman.


Does that mean that evolution deniers need to learn English?

Henry

That would be nice.  

Someone would have to print an English<->Gibberish dictionary, though.

Date: 2010/08/01 21:17:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 01 2010,11:39)
Step back - I'm a professional.


Grr. How many times you gonna play that card, anyway?

Harrumph.

Date: 2010/08/02 13:52:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (rossum @ Aug. 02 2010,05:43)
Quote (fnxtr @ Aug. 01 2010,21:17)
Harrumph.

I'm sorry, there is no station called "Harrumph".

I will invoke that Boris Extension (aka the Bonking Boris Extension) and play:  Hoxton.

rossum

Ahhh hahaha!

Date: 2010/08/02 14:52:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 02 2010,12:44)
When I'm not in school, I've eh... been busy.

That's not really ready for public consumption, but if I wait until it is, I'll never get hired.

Feedback appreciated.

ETA: uh, not really safe for work, I guess.

Nice work, Lou!
I like the whimsy of "classic movie" particularly. Perfect lighting and poses.

Date: 2010/08/02 17:17:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 02 2010,14:35)
V1AGRA P3N1S!

That reminds me, I haven't checked my hotmail account in a while...

Date: 2010/08/03 09:18:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (BillB @ Aug. 03 2010,06:45)
Quote
Biological determinism is an inescapable corollary to biological reductionism. In other words, if every choice we make can be reduced to the chemical processes of the brain, free will is an illusion.

... and with that BA steps back to the 17th century "mechanical universe".

Unlike the God world, where there's a being who knows everything you'll ever do, so... oh, wait.

Date: 2010/08/03 09:22:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 03 2010,04:29)
Didn't expect that, did you:

"Brass Bridge"

And this move is legal since Queen Mum used it during the Royal Family Christmas Tournament on Boxing Day, 1978.

Brass bridge? You're thinking of the Muso thread, K98.

Humbucker.

Oh, wait...

Date: 2010/08/03 20:03:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Maintain your ! balance on, your Happy Birthday: Mr. F. R. Ankh, from the School of Badly Punctuated Equilibrium.

(apologies to the ghost of SJG)

Date: 2010/08/04 09:35:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 04 2010,02:13)
Quote
"When dragons belch and hippos flee
My thoughts, Ankh-Morpork, are of thee
Let others boast of martial dash (etc...)."


The Ankh-Morpork Anthem!

(stands at attention the while)

Date: 2010/08/04 09:39:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Aug. 04 2010,03:19)
and quite ahem . . . ardent too.

But I'm indiscrete. I should keep mum.

FUNNY, THAT'S JUST WHAT MUM SAID!

Ah, hahahaha!

Date: 2010/08/04 09:43:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 04 2010,02:57)
Bwahahaha!!!

Obviously a retouched photo. The real Al Gore would have the Giger art from Frankenchrist on his wall.

Date: 2010/08/05 09:35:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 05 2010,01:40)
Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 05 2010,07:09)
I went to his blog...

[SNIP]

No. Just no. This is what we here call "A Bad Idea".

Some of the hardier TARD Miners ...
Louis

So MichaelJ was the TARDcanary?

Date: 2010/08/06 09:20:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 06 2010,04:43)
It's official!  [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/new-book-announcement-william-a-dembski-and-denyse-oleary-slam-christian-darwinism-in-fort

hcoming-book/]Dembski has officially Jumped the Shark:[/URL]
 

Dissembly Institute: a.s.s.f.

Date: 2010/08/07 13:22:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dogdidit @ Aug. 07 2010,08:33)
 
Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 07 2010,06:51)
An interesting view of effective contribution, per capita.

I'm wondering if france gets relatively better marks because of it's use of nukes.


Per capita responsibility is fine, but using a map colored this way creates the impression that (for example) 20 million Aussies are responsible for as much CO2 as 300 million Americans. Perhaps the map should display emissions per square kilometer? Or do away with the map and bar-chart the results, stacked in magnitude order?

You're assumptions are correct about the French nukes, from which they derive an overwhelming proportion of their electrical power. They generate enough to export.

Ouch! Really?

Okay, well... we're sparse on the ground, relatively wealthy, and cold. That's my excuse.

Edit: redundant and needless repetition.

Date: 2010/08/08 01:29:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 04 2010,06:09)
 
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 04 2010,04:11)
No no no no no no no. Okay, yes.

Canada Water.

Louis

But you lose time because you visit nearby
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/whats-on.php?event=53856

In the meantime, I got off at

"Unseen University"

and am sneaking into the Library from where I can get ... just anywhere!


Okay, now this thread is all mixed up with f.r. ankh-More-Pork's birthday thingie and the Muso thread.

"Don't cross the streams."
"Why?"
"It would be bad."

Hmmm... (scratches canardli beard)...Looks like one of those parallel universe things. I'll get my tools (pulls claymore from shiny red toolbox).

Seven Sisters.

Date: 2010/08/08 12:01:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ Aug. 08 2010,08:10)
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 08 2010,09:38)
Considering where they come from it is more than obvious they will never understand the game which,btw, is called football.

I'm reading you in America -- speak American.

(loki)Yeah, but I bet they front-loaded the rules, didn't they? The computer didn't just design football out of the molecular chaos, now, did it?(/loki)

Date: 2010/08/08 12:07:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Aug. 08 2010,08:31)
"Darwinism" will be dead in ten years or whatever

Heh. So Darwinism will collapse around the same time we get mass-produced fusion reactors, then?

edit: undelete alby's bit.

Date: 2010/08/08 12:09:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 08 2010,09:20)
Quote (khan @ Aug. 08 2010,15:39)
Quote
And, my Dad became ill, which meant several trips to Mayo


Why?

Can't you just pray and so avoid the evil scientists?

Also, I always find ketchup more efficient...


Sorry.

You relish these punning opportunities, don't you, S-Dog.  I'm so glad you mustard the courage to post.

Date: 2010/08/10 08:59:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Beelzebub667 @ Aug. 09 2010,18:33)
From their :

"Development Blog"

Quote
After some spirited discussions about the question of whether we will pay for all of the shipping costs required for the mouse replacement program, we have decided to revise our policy with regards to the return of the first-run mice. We concluded that it is no more our goal to provide average customer service than to make an average computer mouse, and therefore we have decided to pay the cost of shipping the first-run mice back to us. If you elect to return your first mouse, we will send you a pre-paid mailing label along with the replacement mouse if that is possible or else we will arrange to refund your credit card in the amount of the shipping costs.


Note to WarMouse: that would be de rigour for anyone but fly-by-night operations.  You don't charge people to ship your piece of shit back to you.

(snort)

(snicker)

"Intelligent Design"

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Date: 2010/08/10 18:13:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Aug. 08 2010,17:57)
I also spotted these on July25:



They were back today....

... with said spots still on, apparently.

What size brush did you use?
Did you use the same brush for the black and the white spots?

Date: 2010/08/10 18:15:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 10 2010,02:34)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 09 2010,12:09)
I wholefully agree. We should all take it with a bit of salt. It's getting kinda chili...

Well the chill in the air could be from our disapproval at the IDCists attempt to condimental.

I'll get my coat. That's not even a proper word.

Louis

Pungent. It's pungent.

Date: 2010/08/10 21:52:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'm ashamed to say I'd never read the preamble to our Constitution and had no idea it made a reference to God.

Apparently religious activists were at it back in the '80's, too.

From Wiki:
Quote

In considering the legal implications of the preamble in the 1999 case R. v. Sharpe, the British Columbia Court of Appeal referred to it as a "dead letter" which the BC justices had "no authority to breathe life" into.[2]

Date: 2010/08/11 09:36:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 11 2010,07:00)
Mine!



Quote
"The Golden State" Stratocaster was specially built for California Governor Pete Wilson by master luthier George Amicay with the assistance of Jason Davis at the Fender Custom Shop in early Fall 1998. Unique, the bass side features a gorgeous, finely rendered five inch diameter carving of The Great Seal of the State of California overlaid with gold leaf paint. This handwork, quite labor-intensive, took Amicay 200 hours to complete and is signed "G. Amicay '98." On the treble side are the signatures of former California governors, Pete Wilson and George Deukmejian carved in facsimile, and adjacent to the Great Seal is the carved facsimile signature of Dan Lungren, California's Attorney General under Wilson who ran for but lost the 1998 governor's race. What had been planned as very special congratulatory gift from Wilson to Lundgren became, instead, a heartfelt token of consolation.

Yup, that's real purdy.

Date: 2010/08/12 00:16:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 11 2010,21:59)
Uh oh - I get the feeling that NormO is about to get the Very Large Number treatment (90 gazillion x 10^150 = more than the amount of atomic particles in the universe = evolution is impossible)  from Kairos77 or BA Focus or whoever it is:
 
Quote
tjm:

Three billion years is not enough time to evolve all those genes? The evidence suggests that life on Earth arose some 3.5 billion years ago and that sponges appeared over 600 million years ago. That leaves a very long time in between to evolve all those genes, as well as all that intricate cellular “machinery”.

Three billion years is a very long time.


I think NormO is about to find out that three billion years is not nearly enough time for evolution to occur from people who think the world is 6,000 years old.

Just point them to Behe's probability embarrassment in Kitzmiller.

Date: 2010/08/12 10:29:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 12 2010,05:39)
Quote (Robin @ Aug. 11 2010,14:04)
From the Archie comic:

"CHILD: You just didn't say you love me, you put your arm around me! And your arm says it better than your tongue, man!"

Ummm...hmmm...Well, that's an interesting way to phrase that...

For some reason that reminds me of this South Park clip about how to write a Christian song.  Listen to the end for the punch line.

"It worked for Creed!"

And Katy Perry.

Date: 2010/08/12 17:21:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Aug. 12 2010,11:34)
The Limits of Understanding

The mention of evolution might attract some attention by the ID crowd.

Chomsky said something similar in one of his books (I think it was actually a transcription of a lecture); much like a rat can't solve a maze that's too complicated, humans may have limits to their understanding. He was talking about research into the mind/brain connection.

Date: 2010/08/12 22:50:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
No, no, no. The bacteria have simply lost the ability to bind to antibiotics. Genetic Entropy, don' t you know.

Date: 2010/08/13 11:40:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Aug. 13 2010,04:19)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Aug. 13 2010,04:21)
     
Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 12 2010,16:51)
       
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 11 2010,11:29)
To figure out if language can be learned incrementally, just build a computer with a neural net, some sensors and manipulators, and an output device, and see if the thing can be taught a language.

Perhaps Vox Day could teach his mouse to talk.

Is that what they're calling it now?

I've heard a lot of these. But never before involving a mouse.

Carlson's right. LOLcats are comprehensive.

Yeah, isn't that called a "mouse" in some languages?

Date: 2010/08/16 09:44:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Aug. 16 2010,05:07)
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Zachriel: Is {} = {{}}?

Joe G: Weigh the contents of each and tell me which weighs more....

Ow. Ow, ow, ow.

More like "Which weighs more, a pound of intersection or a pound of union?"

And when someone tries to explain set theory to GI Joe, suddenly it's not important.

You'll notice he bailed out of that PT thread he was getting reamed on, too.

Date: 2010/08/16 09:47:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 16 2010,03:21)
Chosen Response to Algorithmic Pressure

EDIT: Don't know what "algorithmic pressure" is there for, or even what it is, but it has the benefice of 1) providing me with the acronym I need, and 2) sounding a bit sciency without meaning anything whatsoever, a feature I find most fitted for ID...

Perfect.

Date: 2010/08/16 11:05:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Lou:

1. That sucks.

2. Congratulations.

3. Hey, sometimes school is exciting, sometimes it's just work.

Life is rich, huh?

Khan: no-one said we're Rapid Response Riff-Raff™!

Date: 2010/08/16 12:29:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (tsig @ Aug. 16 2010,10:24)
Quote (sledgehammer @ Aug. 15 2010,11:52)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 15 2010,02:20)
       
Quote
“The Vibrant Dance of Faith and Science” — Conference in Austin TX, Oct 26-28, 2010
William Dembski

Bill knows very well from whence the funding (fundying?) comes:
       
Quote
Young-earth creationism is a very widely accepted position among conservative Christians, so by not inviting any of its proponents, any attempt at theological unification will accordingly be limited.

Pandering to the base for political expediency, even if you know it's a load of crap, doesn't rate very high on the ethical scale of things, even in politics.

Dancing is just sex standing up. Vibrant Young Hard Body's throbbing against one another to the sound of a primitive driving beat.

The joke in my home town was:

"Why don't Mennonites make love standing up?"  

"Because it could lead to dancing."

Except it was true.

Date: 2010/08/16 17:30:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Wot's all this dancing back 'n' forth over the river, then?

You know it's only a matter of time before someone falls in.

(Takes Louis and Amadan by the ear):

Sudbury Hill.

There. Now play nice.

Date: 2010/08/16 17:32:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
I had a co-worker hand me the "evolution is another religion" canard the other day, along with "We don't grow wings by flapping our arms and jumping off buildings."

I was wondering if that's one of Ken Ham's cartoon versions of reality.  Anyone seen/heard that one before?

Date: 2010/08/17 11:50:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 17 2010,07:51)
If you're going to do it, creobots, have some class:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/plonk.php

Oh, man.
I read that, then went surfing around until I got to the LHC post, wherein "Sastra" left this gem about Leon Lederman:

 
Quote
He'd written a book called The God Particle which, of course, had nothing to do with God at all. It was a nickname for, I think, the Higg's bosun.


Hahahaha!

"Arrr, me lads, make full sail for supersymmetry!"

Hahahahaha!

Date: 2010/08/17 15:20:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 17 2010,07:39)
Great recovery - erm I was just scratching my chin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3SuooQ-1T0&feature=player_embedded

Reminds me of Larry Wilmore's riff on black sign language. Looked for it on our version of Comedy Central but no luck.

Date: 2010/08/17 15:53:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hey, Joe, which weighs more, a pound of pi, or a pound of e?

Date: 2010/08/18 19:29:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 18 2010,11:18)
 
Quote
Sun goes nova

Wrong kind of star for that, iirc. Yellow dwarfs turn into red giants (probably swallowing nearby planets in the process) when their hydrogen supply runs low, and that's expected to be a few billion years from now.

In the mean time, though, I've read that Andromeda is gonna collide with the Milky Way somewhat earlier than the red giant thing, but I don't know what that will do to habitability here.

Reeeally?

Andromeda is 2 million light-years away. If the sun gets all swollen in about 5 billion years (the most common estimate I've read), Andromeda would have to be racing towards us at what, > c x .0004?  120Km/sec? I guess that's reasonable.

Date: 2010/08/18 22:38:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Don't make fun of Joe. Tard is a serious mallardy.

Date: 2010/08/19 18:20:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 19 2010,15:35)
Quote (socle @ Aug. 19 2010,16:45)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 19 2010,16:20)
added in edit:  Nice of GEM to make it into a trilobite however.

I took it to be the island of Montserrat!

That got me to thinking about whether there was any hidden messages in the word cloud that would give any clues as to the identity of the Intelligent Designer.  So, I applied some of the groundbreaking Dembski Bible Code Math to it.  

I am still trying to figure it out.  But, since there is alot of smart people here, I figured you might be able to speed up the analysis. Here is the result:



Tell me what you come up with.

Well, I was going to do something with "brown matter"... but that sounds too much like the kwokenator.

Date: 2010/08/19 18:21:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 19 2010,01:11)
Don't mock Joe, science is really 'canard.

Louis

At first I thought you were just stretching it, then I recognized the silent "f". Nice.

Date: 2010/08/20 10:43:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 20 2010,00:51)
I express much gratitude twice. These coordinates of spacetime are my location for at least seven rotations of this planet. Please donate a gratuity for excellent service to your specific serving person. Do not forget to sample the exquisite delight that is the cooked flesh of a milk fed young male bovine of a breed typically used for dairy produce slaughtered prior to it living for 20 weeks.

Louis

My brother did a photoshop of a cow in a rainforest for Adbusters.
The caption: "I'm dying for a Whopper!"

Date: 2010/08/20 10:44:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (socle @ Aug. 20 2010,08:37)
Zachriel posts his example patrilineage in tree form:



   
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Joe:  I have never seen any tree that looks like that.

And there aren't any trees which grow from the top down as your example depicts.

Okay, Joe has got be pretending to be that stupid.  He's just yankin' yer chain.

Date: 2010/08/21 14:53:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
What, you didn't have a pfennig on you?

("No, I spent it on smokes")


Awesome shots, K.

Date: 2010/08/21 18:09:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 17 2010,03:24)
Due to an excess of Marmalade Sandwiches...

PADDINGTON!

Louis

Ooo, challenging play, there. I'm surprised you got there before your transfer expired.  Certainly raised the bar... hmm... overground, then:

Homerton.  

Man that is some seriously ugly housing...

(arrives late)

DOH!

Date: 2010/08/22 21:19:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Aug. 22 2010,16:45)
Swiss Cottage bitches.

Is that the UK version of the Chicken Ranch?

Date: 2010/08/23 11:16:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 23 2010,08:57)
Louis Sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t28COxEp2k

I always pictured Louis as more of a Ted Chippington bloke...

Date: 2010/08/23 12:03:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Zachriel @ Aug. 23 2010,05:15)
Couple of odds and ends from Telic Thoughts.

Quote
angryoldfatman: For instance, the world successfully moved from extremely finite whale oil resources to much more plentiful petroleum and then finally to practically inifinite electricity to light up their homes, all without government-funded think tanks planning exactly how one should be phased out and the next should be phased in.

If our government treated environmentalists like France's did (or hell, like France pretty much treats everybody), we'd have enough nuclear power to have practically eliminated the use of coal by now.

That would mean nationalization of most of the electrical production. Électricité de France, which generates most of the power in France, is a majority state-owned corporation.

Quote
angryoldfatman: But you know, we've got to keep the Birkenstock-wearing latte-sippers happy, along with the coal-miner unions and the railroad unions and the black-lung lawsuit lawyers and the mine-collapse lawsuit lawyers and all the other dependent industries who'd need to find other things to do.

--
Not sure what to make of this from JOHN_A_DESIGNER:

Quote
JOHN_A_DESIGNER: According to Ken Miller:

Quote
Bacteria are known to ingest all sorts of things, everything from crude oil to sulfur, so the discovery of one that could eat nylon would not have been very remarkable if not for one small detail: nylon is synthetic; it didn’t exist anywhere in nature until 1935, when it was invented by an organic chemist at the chemical company Dupont.

Do you see the spin? The pejorative use of synthetic– like it is completely unnatural. But then, why did they need organic chemists to synthesize it?

What does he think "synthetic" means? Or is he confused on the term "organic" in organic chemists, which just refers to carbon chemistry? Or does he think it's supposed to be supernatural?!

Maybe in JAD's world, organic chemists= no pesticides?

Date: 2010/08/23 14:51:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 23 2010,11:32)
This one's for you, FtK:



http://www.messiah.edu/news/2006/MC-019-06.html

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo

Date: 2010/08/24 01:03:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Aug. 23 2010,22:52)
I'm not sure if he would work for a Bond villain - probably more of Doc Savage maybe.  

Or the Tick.  

Yeah, I'd go with the Tick.


Charles? Is that you?

Date: 2010/08/24 10:37:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
All he wants is some sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads.

Date: 2010/08/24 10:43:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 24 2010,07:26)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 24 2009,18:19)
Happy Birthday Blipey.

I am not afraid of clowns, professors are a different matter.

May all your drinks be alcoholic and your liver be extremely reinforced.

Louis

I feel recycling birthday threads permits me to recycle birthday messages.

Many Happy Returns, Blipey!

Louis

What about clown professors?

Another birthday? Didn't you just have one last year?

Congratulations on not being dead yet, B.

May your cream pies be laced with Harvey's.

Date: 2010/08/24 10:45:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ Aug. 24 2010,07:09)
[quote=keiths,Aug. 23 2010,14:28][/quote]
Quote
Heh. Jurassicmac buys some time:
 
Quote
I will read that article when I have a free moment, Lewis is one of my favorite authors and perhaps one of the best apologetic minds of the 20th century.


Whew...!

It's like that insurance commercial where the guy follows up the "You're heavier than you look" comment to his wife with, "Uh... I love you?"

Date: 2010/08/25 11:36:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
We have a tie!

Date: 2010/08/26 11:44:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
HB battletank!

I got you a warmouse but it got recalled.

Date: 2010/08/27 00:28:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 26 2010,22:08)
The Intelligent Design and the Demarkation Problem thread on UD is up to reply #645.  Will it make it to #666 and will ID be taken over by Satan if it does?

Here's reply #645 from Vividbleau:  
Quote
RE 643? And if it had a beginning it must have had a Beginner. Things are not looking good for naturalism at this point. To be continued tomorrow if anyone is interested.”

And thus the Beginner must necessarily exist, that is it cannot not exist. From there we can discuss what are the attributes that must accompany a neccessary existence otherwise it cannot be a necessary existence. For instance I dont qualify because I could have or could not have existed but a neccessary existence cannot not exist. Does that make any sense?

Vivid

Now if that don't open up a hole into another dimension and call, "Here Saty, Saty, Saty, Satan!  Come on boy, here Satan, good ghoul!", nothing does.

Come on, somebody smuggle the "have you ever really looked at your hand?" line in there.

Date: 2010/08/27 10:51:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Behold Lego Tarkus!



Think you can take him, OgreMkIV?

Date: 2010/08/27 13:57:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Aug. 27 2010,10:16)
Evolution makes Women Prettier


But beer works faster! -dt

Quote
He looked at a sample of more than 2,000 men and women in America, following them through four decades of life.

Their attractiveness was assessed from photographs taken during the study, which also collected data on the number of children they had.



Assessed by whom?

This looks like it came from The Onion.

Date: 2010/08/27 23:06:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Aug. 27 2010,17:36)
Quote (fnxtr @ Aug. 27 2010,10:51)
Behold Lego Tarkus!



Think you can take him, OgreMkIV?

Looks like the bastard child of an armadillo and an AT-AT.  I've got 6 variable yield short range tac-nukes... bring it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus

Date: 2010/08/28 13:35:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Aug. 28 2010,07:18)
It's the official birthday weekend... let the hedonism begin.  I think I'll have syrup with my oatcakes instead of yogurt this morning!

Kat, the item isn't online, but the reference article is here: Whence the Red Panda, Flynn et. al.

Kewl.

So they just ended up gettting called "pandas" in the first place because of locale and superficial resemblence?

Heh. So our raccoons could have been "lesser brown bears".

Date: 2010/08/29 17:14:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 29 2010,07:08)
The Vibrant Dance of Faith and Science - thrilling symposium !!!!1one!!
List of speakers:
Seriously, those members of BioLogos have the patience of saints.

Why do the Titles of their Seminars all sound like Books of Christian Philosophy from the Victorian Era or Earlier?

Date: 2010/08/30 11:01:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 30 2010,04:09)
I took some notes during Dembski's lecture at UCSD back on 2001/04/25. Dembski ran through his "search for a search" idea there.

   
Quote


 
Quote


So what about the Darwinian mechanism?
Dembski at this point mentioned NFL, and asserted that DM suffers from a "displacement problem".

If we are told that a buried treasure exists on an island, how do we find it?  Blind search doesn't work; can't dig up every spadeful of an island to find the treasure.

So, the DM is equivalent to finding the tresure map that leads to the treasure.  But you have to pick the *right* treasure map out of the collection of treasure maps.  This search is even more intractable than the original search.




I think Dembski is way off base here.  The "treasure map" is Dembski's analogy to a fitness function for a problem.  In biology, there is no "search" for the fitness function; it is inherent in the configuration of the environment.  For a GA solving a TSP, for example, a fitness function is provided, not searched for, and the biology shows no such "search" process as Dembski discusses.



That's from an email I sent out on 26 Apr 2001.

And that's still the case, so far as I can tell, with the current work. Dembski and Marks go to a great deal of trouble to tell us that environments have information, and that algorithms exploit that information in order to find solutions relevant to that environment. If one doesn't provide an algorithm with the fitness function that is the stand-in for an environment, the algorithm can't find a solution. It's one big "Duh".

If you survive long enough to get laid, your genes get to stay in the game until the next round.  

That's a pretty big target and lots of ways to get there.

I have a hard time seeing how Dr2's number-juggling has any connection with reality.

Date: 2010/08/30 15:30:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 30 2010,10:18)
Quote
That's a pretty big target and lots of ways to get there.

Dinner, movie, chocolate, flowers, wine, jewelry, that sort of thing?

Small town + bored teenagers.  Heat and serve.

Date: 2010/08/31 17:17:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 31 2010,12:50)
Found: Carlson's home video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJ-x4CE5Dk&feature=player_embedded

It's Vox Gay!

Date: 2010/08/31 18:28:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Aug. 31 2010,16:01)
Like an inverse-whale, rising to the surface to fart, our favorite pudgy toy, Paul Nelson, has been sighted.

(snip)

I may write my monograph.  I may write a book.  I may do this.  I may do that.

Or, I may just sink back into the primordial ooze and take a nap.  More like it, I suspect.

?? Paul Nelson is a closet utod???

Date: 2010/09/01 10:08:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
What they said. Only better. (I haz no lolcat skillz!)

Date: 2010/09/01 10:14:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dogdidit @ Sep. 01 2010,07:46)
   
Quote
Kyler said...

Some Joe G science:

Joe G at ARN

"That doesn't count the experiments I conduct in my basement. Some labs would be jealous of the equipment I house & use there.

For example I now know that ticks are more attracted to watermelon rinds then they are to orange peels or orange slices. I also know that dragonflies play."

That basement must be one hellacious pig-sty. No wonder he gargles with bleach. Probably bathes in it, too, after every trip downstairs to check out his "experiments".

"What do you mean your basement?!?" -- Joe's mom.

Date: 2010/09/01 10:16:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hear, hear. Clever, Amadan.

Date: 2010/09/01 12:08:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
That's hilarious.

"Well, here's the actual science you're going to need to be of any use to anyone.... but here's what the Bible sez."

Date: 2010/09/02 08:59:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 02 2010,04:25)

Break's over, grandpa, back on the drum kit with you.

Happy birthdays from the Great White North, eh?

Date: 2010/09/02 09:04:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Can't we all just get a longneck?

Date: 2010/09/03 09:48:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 02 2010,20:01)
(hilarious image snipped)

I count 11 that apply to UD.

Oh, god. My stomach hurts!
Laugh. Of. The. Week.

Date: 2010/09/03 09:59:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Peter Henderson @ Sep. 03 2010,03:13)
       
Quote
Nothing that young-earth creationists had taught me about geology turned out to be true. I took a poll of my ICR graduate friends who have worked in the oil industry.  I asked them one question.

"From your oil industry experience, did any fact that you were taught at ICR, which challenged current geological thinking, turn out in the long run to be true? ,"

That is a very simple question.  One man, Steve Robertson, who worked for Shell grew real silent on the phone, sighed and softly said 'No!'  A very close friend that I had hired at Arco, after hearing the question, exclaimed, "Wait a minute.  There has to be one!"  But he could not name one.  I can not name one.  No one else could either.  One man I could not reach, to ask that question, had a crisis of faith about two years after coming into the oil industry.  I do not know what his spiritual state is now but he was in bad shape the last time I talked to him.

My gal works for a geo-engineering firm. Apparently one of their engineers quit when he had to actually look at the old rocks.

Date: 2010/09/03 10:03:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 03 2010,07:58)
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 03 2010,09:48)
 
Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 02 2010,20:01)
(hilarious image snipped)

I count 11 that apply to UD.

Oh, god. My stomach hurts!
Laugh. Of. The. Week.


Here's another chart for you, but it's way more scarier than Carlson's:



BTW - I vote Carlson's chart POTW for today, but only if he can make it smaller so it fits one one screen! :(

Y'know, I'm pretty sure Beck, like The Right's "spokesharridan" Coulter, doesn't really give a shit whether what he says is true or not, he just wants attention.

Date: 2010/09/06 15:08:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 06 2010,11:37)
I hope Mathgrrl visits AtBC.
 
Quote
Frankly, I’m very surprised to see the resistance to providing detailed definitions. ID makes claims about the real world. How do you propose to test those claims without knowing how to measure the quantities that you are discussing?


Having not grown up with blackletter, that capital V looked like a D to me at first.

"What? Really? How very odd these Germans are..."

Date: 2010/09/08 21:18:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 08 2010,12:58)
Thank you all for the advice. I don't have edit privileges, so I'll stick with the quotation marks.

Tiny URL is also dead easy to use.

Date: 2010/09/08 21:42:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 08 2010,15:59)
Also, I note that his tactic is basically: "buy Dr^²'s book and then we can debate"

Good marketing move...

El Zinga's been saying all along, (paraphrasing) "There's no point in discussing Dembski's claims about science-and-Jebus, since neither you [FL] nor Dr2 knows shit about science in the first place," pointing to Teh Good Doctor's other works.

Date: 2010/09/08 21:44:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ Sep. 08 2010,12:18)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Sep. 06 2010,05:13)
How belated do I have to be before i'm early?

happy birthday!


I second Vun Kannon's question. Dang...you go away on vacation for a week and everyone gets a year older! (Waiting patiently for the research to get published on this physical anomaly)

Happy Belated, Khan!

Buddy of mine had a poster of a mountain goat alone on a hilltop.

"He's so far behind, he thinks he's first."

Date: 2010/09/10 01:42:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 09 2010,14:23)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 09 2010,21:25)
Last month, I was in *Oban*, and this is what I had as foundation for the whisky:



And just to broaden your education:

And I'll be in Edinburgh soon ... just saying ...

Haggis!!!

The bestest whole meal everest!!!*







*No, seriously, I love Haggis.

I haven't had good haggis yet. Must be difficult to get the right oatmeal/Alpo ratio.

Date: 2010/09/11 16:36:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 11 2010,14:28)
It would be interesting to compare the mutation rate in DNA with the unrecoverable error rate for hard drives.

I think you would want to match the number of bits written and read.

I'm betting hard drives are better by several orders of magnitude.

But since multiple codons can translate to the same aa, DNA is more forgiving of errors. In machine language, 0 is 0 and 1 is 1 and never the twain etc...

Date: 2010/09/13 20:30:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'm working on a mashup of "We Will Rock You" and "(You know you are a) Dreamer". :-)

Date: 2010/09/16 09:15:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
I didn't know there were degrees of "out-of-work".

Badump bump.

And yes I know there's no station by that name.

Blackhorse Road.

Date: 2010/09/16 09:20:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
By the way this page now has tiny URL:

http://tinyurl.com/24vxp8o

But it has a great personality.

Date: 2010/09/16 18:56:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
 
Podcast: Why Are Terrorists Often Engineers?

Because nobody likes a smartass.

( pace Douglas Adams.)

Date: 2010/09/17 12:02:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Sep. 16 2010,19:31)
They (whoever they are...I love it so!) say you should start small, so Delaware it is:

Christine O'Donnell questions evolution.

The darling of the Tea Party regurgitates all the familiar points. Granted the interview was 14 years ago, but hey, small changes over many years is what it takes to confront the Darwinian Conspiracy and creationists are moving up in the political hierarchy.

(Where is that politics thread...?)

People who don't have the critical thinking skills to run for a bus, let alone public office, are going to get elected in your country.

I hope we can still be friends.

Date: 2010/09/17 13:41:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 17 2010,11:04)
Quote
termites, or praying mantises, or bacteria,

And beetles! don't forget beetles!  :)

Especially Ringo. He was the nice, quiet boy.

Date: 2010/09/17 13:44:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 17 2010,10:07)
Quote (JLT @ Sep. 17 2010,12:05)
Breaking News: Richard Dawkins held over papal terror alert  :)

That just about freaked me out.  I was all prepared for scathing posts and the like...

Just wrong.

Stephen Fry?!?!?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... what, Hugh Laurie's not on Teh List?

Date: 2010/09/18 16:38:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Seversky @ Sep. 18 2010,11:54)
Atheism is the more probable explanation but it's not one that is going to warm the cockles of your heart on cold, winter nights.  

"That warms the cockles of my heart."
"What is a cockle, anyway?"
"I dunno. Part of your heart. Normally cold."
-- Corner Gas.

Date: 2010/09/19 00:29:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (steve_h @ Sep. 18 2010,16:50)
Coming soon:

How Gil and his siblings had to get up at three o'clock in the morning, three days before they went to bed, climb out
of the 'ole in the middle of the road and practice the romantic piano in a cardboard box for 65 96 hours before their saintly Dad killed 'em and danced on their graves singin' "random mutations".

An' you try an' tell yong people t'day that, they won't believe you.

Date: 2010/09/19 12:05:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ Sep. 19 2010,02:51)
Faith in a father figure, developed to near perfection by Stalin still lingers on in Russia.

Well, it's worked for pretty much every monotheistic religion. If it ain't broke...

Date: 2010/09/19 13:52:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (rossum @ Sep. 16 2010,13:53)
       
Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 16 2010,15:26)
But above all else, just enjoy the game for its simple pleasures.

Which reminds me, has the Boris-Bike supplement to Stovold been approved yet or are we still waiting for the white smoke to appear?  Mind you, we have been waiting for that since they replaced the steam engines on the Circle Line.

Which inevitably brings us to the gateway to the south: Balham.

rossum

Balham? From Blackhorse Road?

How in Stovold's...

Ah.

I see.

But you haven't said which King's Cross St Pancras to Moorgate line you're suspending for 3.  I mean, anyone (coughLouiscough) could play either Angel or Barbican at the moment, couldn't they? I mean, if they wanted to refresh token counts on the opposite line.

Just sayin's all.

Date: 2010/09/19 18:28:00, Link
Author: fnxtr
Um, while we're at it, could one of the more veteran players explain line velocity?

I thought I understood it at one point, but researching the classic games I realize I'm kind of at sea.

Date: 2010/09/20 09:59:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 20 2010,07:13)
Oh bugger the pope!


Anti-Flag fan?

     
Quote
Graves End


Do they.

Graves End is off the Standard Tube Map; you never called Expanded Play.

It pains me to point it out, but you, sir, are off-side, out of bounds, and fouled out.

That's a cyan card to you, and/or  -1 heptagonal tokens.

Free throw in from

Beckton.

Date: 2010/09/20 10:04:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
btw rossum, don't think the Invigilators didn't notice your two sequential plays.

'cause they did.

(stern look)

Date: 2010/09/20 13:42:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
Did I really say Graves End?  

Of course I meant Tooting Broadway, which in no way should generate a cyan card, so please pull that back, there's a good chap, and be so kind to forget the whole thing.

Tooting Broadway

In the spirit of this gentlemen's game (luckily we're not in the official playoffs!), your cyan card is withdrawn.  Honest mistakes are certainly forgivable. Live and learn.

My play of Beckton is mooted.

Tooting Broadway is a clever and tasty move from (ahem) Stockwell, especially as a Back-Reflection form from Balham.

The classic from here is of course a Slingshot to London Bridge (viz. IMCS Finals 1755, 1790, 1801, et seq.),  BUT I was never a fan of these Tight Southern games, so, time to open it up a little:

Green Park!

(looks smug)

Date: 2010/09/21 14:16:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 21 2010,09:03)
I am aghast at the comments, drivel, shennanigans and, and I'm not afraid to say it in mixed company, sexual deviancy exhibited on this thread in my absence. I shall have to restore some form of order with healthy play.

Healthy, wand limbed, ivory skinned, rose red lipped, firm buttocked, young cad, throbbing, moistening play....

...sorry where was I...Oh yes... a game of MC. Right. Erm. Yes.

Totteridge!

...but not Whetstone. I will not be having that sort of behaviour in my presence. Whetstone, indeed. The very idea! Would you want your wives and servants to read it?

Louis

Totteridge. How... quaint.

What next, Burnt Oak? ;-)

Interesting play, actually; the Northern Line Saturation strategy is formidable when properly executed (Wilson v. Clark, 1947), but are you willing to risk gridlock (as witness the 1889 quarter-finals) and a stalemate, Louis?  It seems a bit early to engage in such brinksmanship.

Again, just sayin's all.

Date: 2010/09/21 14:20:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Noobs may want to heed this before following the dread Louis down the Northern line rabbit hole:

Quote
Except during weekday peak
hours, all trains to/from
Morden run via Bank - for the
Charing Cross branch, change
at Kennington. For journeys
to and from Mill Hill East at
off-peak times, change at
Finchley Central. On Sundays
between 1300 and 1700,
Camden Town is open for
interchange and exit only.


Word.

Date: 2010/09/21 14:51:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,12:29)
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 21 2010,20:20)
Noobs may want to heed this before following the dread Louis down the Northern line rabbit hole:

   
Quote
Except during weekday peak
hours, all trains to/from
Morden run via Bank - for the
Charing Cross branch, change
at Kennington. For journeys
to and from Mill Hill East at
off-peak times, change at
Finchley Central. On Sundays
between 1300 and 1700,
Camden Town is open for
interchange and exit only.


Word.

Oh, c'mon!

Camden Town is only like 10 minutes from Mornington Crescent by walking. I haven't checked the 2004 revised edition of the rule-book, but it seems that according to Gartner and Lewis, Camden Town is not a valid move between January 3rd 1987 and December 24th 3025.

So what's the point in even citing it here?

Back to: Waterloo (I travel a lot, and I've been sick).

via Kennington, obviously.

Fine, have it your way then.
Sitting this one out.
It'll all end in tears, I know it.

Date: 2010/09/21 15:02:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 21 2010,08:58)
Quote (Robin @ Sep. 21 2010,14:43)
[SNIP]

Trust me when I say that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train.  ;)

[SNIP]

a) Depends on the tunnel.

b) Yes, sadly, it invariably is.

However, given that, it can be an interesting time to start either a) trainspotting or b) a very advanced sprinting career. In other words, when life gives you lemons say "Oi, garcon! I ordered fucking oranges! Sort it out por favor!".

It seems to work for other people. I can't imagine why. ;-)

Louis

DIBS!

I called it.

Date: 2010/09/21 15:11:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 21 2010,13:02)
I'll take it then that the last move is Waterloo.

(Fnxtr, Burnt Oak? Pervert!)

It's easy play for me from there, a straight run to MC in three I think, especially if I play...

Holborn!

Louis

Hah! I thought you might flinch.

Right, I'm back in:

West. Hampstead.  F---ers.

That's right, a Jubilee diversion, with optional Overground.

Still calling mate in 3, Louis?

Date: 2010/09/21 15:14:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Sep. 21 2010,07:40)
Road Trip!

 
Quote
When: Thursday, October 7, 2010 7:00 PM

Where: Washburn University
1700 SW College Ave
Topeka, KS 66604
913-894-4024

Dr. Michael Shermer, founding publisher of "Skeptic Magazine", will be debating Dr. William Dembski, Discovery Institute's Senior Fellow, about whether or not science provides evidence for a designer. The debate will be on Thursday, October 7th at 7:00pm in the Washburn Room in the Memorial Union on the Washburn University campus. Admission is free. This is a debate you don't want to miss! Hope to see you there.

WATERLOO!

Date: 2010/09/21 15:17:53, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 21 2010,08:52)

That. Is. Awsum.

Date: 2010/09/21 15:24:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,13:15)
Pfff! Amateurs! (the French don't have a word for "amateurs"!)

Euston (because it does look like a big pair of bollocks on the London Tube map)!

Edit: I beg to correct myself. We do have a word for "amateur", and it's "amateur porn". Go figure...

Bollocks? Nah. A barbell. Or a contact binary star system... or a peanut (that's a "goober", for Wes and Wolfie).

Ok, bollocks.

That's not a move. Unlike some people, I know how to wait my turn...

eta: p.s. nice move s-dog. Tactical without being ostentatious.

Date: 2010/09/21 15:36:40, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 21 2010,13:30)
It's best just to smile and not get out the ruler.

Maybe it should read "Approximately Fibonacci Pigeons".

Date: 2010/09/21 16:04:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,13:41)
Cool Fibonacci fun: Tool, Lateralus

I have a vague recollection of studying a Debussy piece that was 144 bars long, first section was 55 bars.

Or something.

Date: 2010/09/21 16:05:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,13:39)
I'll skip my turn for now, need to shave some racoons...

Is that what they call it now?

Date: 2010/09/21 17:37:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,14:29)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 21 2010,16:06)
Oh the slapdown commeth:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-364289

Petrushka is my new Hero!

Let the ID sputtering begin!

More Grade 10 Chess Club philosophical wanking.

Not to be disrespectful or anything, but Jesus H. Christ on a plate.

Date: 2010/09/22 09:38:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 22 2010,01:38)
Euston. Hmm. Interesting. That only leaves...

MORNINGTON CRESCENT!

Louis

Yeah, that's what I figured.

I warned everyone against playing the Northern line (Belushi) but NNNNooo! (/Belushi), S-Dog's bollocks fetish did us all in.

Anyway, well-played, all, and congratulations, Louis.

Date: 2010/09/22 21:22:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
I was feeling particularly uninspired.  Besides I couldn't let the Northern line dead horse go unflogged.

White Chapel eh?

I know it's "Closed until late 2011" but as a double cascade transcends time and space (as explained by Lewis Carrol Epstein in "Relativity Visualised"):

Blackfriars!

eta: btw does anyone know why the king's cross at St. Pancras? What did said saint ever do to said king?

eta: sorry I just realized that's probably a very old joke.

Date: 2010/09/22 22:15:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Sep. 22 2010,20:09)
Over at Evo Whine and Sleeze, Anika "The Tank" Smith reports breathlessly:

Quote
Tomorrow night four new arguments against Darwin's theory will be revealed before an audience at Southern Methodist University. Scientists from Discovery Institute and Biologic Institute are already heading down to Dallas for the event, where they'll present new evidence against Darwinian evolution after a free screening of the film Darwin's Dilemma.


Sponsored by the SMU Victory Campus Ministries (who else?)

I'm sure the World's Press will be there at SMU tomorrow night to record this momentous event.

New Evidence Against Darwinian Evolution!

New Evidence Regarding Darwin.

Nerd.

Date: 2010/09/23 21:57:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh, no takers on the double cascade?

Then I shall continue:

Parson's Green.



(Remember F=mdt2. Two double cascades mean LV4. MC in 7, see if I don't.)

Date: 2010/09/23 22:00:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (BillB @ Sep. 23 2010,13:39)
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 23 2010,14:47)
Hah! You've all fallen into my cunningly laid trap. Mild and meek though it appeared (I even gave you a hint). This will be over soon methinks.

Earls Court!

Louis

I was all prepared today for the masterstroke, armed with a cameraphone, a printout of the Antievolution logo and a trip to london that took me through Mornington Crescent ...

Then my phone broke, so no winning pictorial move.

Kings cross?


Nice block, though, BillB!

Louise, no cheating: "BarKINGSide" is not a royal station.

Date: 2010/09/23 22:02:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (rhmc @ Sep. 22 2010,16:47)
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 21 2010,17:04)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,13:41)
Cool Fibonacci fun: Tool, Lateralus

I have a vague recollection of studying a Debussy piece that was 144 bars long, first section was 55 bars.

Or something.

i studied a piece through 55 bars once...don't recall the outcome...

the credit card bill was astonishing.

She must have been some piece.

Oink.

Date: 2010/09/23 22:08:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 23 2010,07:13)
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 23 2010,04:15)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Sep. 22 2010,20:09)
Over at Evo Whine and Sleeze, Anika "The Tank" Smith reports breathlessly:

 
Quote
Tomorrow night four new arguments against Darwin's theory will be revealed before an audience at Southern Methodist University. Scientists from Discovery Institute and Biologic Institute are already heading down to Dallas for the event, where they'll present new evidence against Darwinian evolution after a free screening of the film Darwin's Dilemma.


Sponsored by the SMU Victory Campus Ministries (who else?)

I'm sure the World's Press will be there at SMU tomorrow night to record this momentous event.

New Evidence Against Darwinian Evolution!

New Evidence Regarding Darwin.

Nerd.

Perhaps better described as:

Nugatory
"Entirely
Objective"
Carping
Regarding
Evolutionary
Arguments
That
Invidiously
Originate
Near
Interestingly
Secreted
Theistic
Hubris
Or
Really
Stupid
Exprobations
Surrounding
Historically
Impressive
Theories

Now if I could only think of an acronym.

Louis

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Date: 2010/09/24 23:38:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Tee hee!

Canning Town.

You may get in to Prince Regent or KGV, Louis, but you'll Never. Get. Out.!!!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Date: 2010/09/24 23:46:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Sep. 24 2010,09:51)
And here is another Seattle native.  (snip)

Yeah, they're nearly as fearless as raccoons, those shithawks.

They will eat right out of your fingers, and even your fingers if you're clumsy.

I was up on the 23rd floor of Gage Towers at UBC once, tossing Ritz crackers out the window and watching the shithawks snatch them out of the air.

eta the word 'eat'.

Date: 2010/09/25 08:48:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 25 2010,05:47)
Robert Sheldon invokes number theory:
   
Quote
#77 Aleta -- Why does 1+1=2 depend on God?

Because we need something between 1 and infinity. We need something between Parmenides and Heraclitus. We need something between Hinduism and Islam, between Buddha and Allah. We need a rule of arithmetic that God uses, but doesn't abuse. When you ask "what is a rule?" or "what is truth?" , these other religions will either tell you "whatever you want it to be" or "whatever God wants it to be". The first answer gives relativism, the second answer gives arbitrary nominalism. To stand between these two antipodes that have swallowed mathematicians and empires, takes a belief in a special kind of God, a special kind of reality, a special kind of metaphysics. I can't take you through the foundations of number theory to illustrate these two pitfalls, but I refer you to a PhD in Math and New Testament, my advisor at seminary, Vern Poythress, who wrote on this topic.

Well, that settles it. Although it sounds rather more like God needs math than math needs God.

Robert Sheldon should probably lay off the peyote for a while.

Date: 2010/09/28 08:42:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ Sep. 28 2010,06:29)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 28 2010,07:33)
Just as an aside, I recommend "safeword" as the easiest safeword to remember.

All y'all are a bit too . . . advanced for me.  If "ouch" isn't a good enough safeword, I don't think I want to play the game.

Yes.

Date: 2010/09/28 19:00:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 28 2010,16:30)

Yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8

Date: 2010/09/28 19:03:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 28 2010,10:09)
 
Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 28 2010,18:00)
   
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 28 2010,11:51)
P.S. I really did try to avoid sarcasm. I failed. I'm a bad, bad bunny.

Coming up next on the WB, Louis visits Dr. PhilFtK.


Oh I'm a far worse bunny than that.

Louis

Just look at the bones!

Date: 2010/09/28 19:09:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 28 2010,10:02)
A beer for for each of us? A beer? **A** beer????

As long as it's imported. :-)

Date: 2010/09/28 23:21:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 28 2010,20:14)
Actually, I think I agree.  In my experience, the reasons for atheism come down to one of two things.

1) No indoctrination as a child (i.e. children of atheists)

2) Indoctrination as a child that just didn't take (i.e. the child figured out what a sham religion actually is)

Yeah, the bible-thumpers just don't get that non-theism is the default position. Show me a god/unicorn/pixie, I'll believe you. Maybe. Otherwise, why should I?

Date: 2010/09/28 23:25:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 24 2010,03:52)
Red sea parting explained???

Sadly, some more fuel for the literalist creotards...

That's some stretch.

Next: The Air-Bag of Turin: Fact or Forgery?

Date: 2010/09/30 08:49:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 30 2010,02:15)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 30 2010,02:55)
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 28 2010,13:02)
A beer for for each of us? A beer? **A** beer???

(snip the blah blah blah)

<---poor college student and starving artist. That's like broke2

Ahhh but you'll notice my solutions didn't require your cash, just your notifying the emergency services ahead of time!

Anyway, I take it you are angling for an AtBC rescue posse to descend on Wilmington, get you horribly drunk, and force you to make inappropriate phone calls to Casey Luskin at obscure hours of the morning. If so...I approve!

Louis

I think a drunken, 2am "Why did we ever break up" call to Denyse would be more fun.

Date: 2010/10/01 01:17:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Sep. 30 2010,22:35)
Have you seen his latest blame-the-victim post?

Gay Rights Killed Clementi.

It wasn't the roommate that caused his suicide, it was gay rights.

Gah - I actually read part of that crap.  Holy shit, he's even more fucked up than I thought.  Colleges are too tolerant, and Clementi couldn't stand the thought of people seeing him submit to his "evil desires".  

Teddy, stick to broken mice, and leave the deep thinking to those with actual working brains.  Please.

Couldn't possibly be homo-in-denial self-loathing, now, could it.

Date: 2010/10/01 08:59:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 01 2010,01:08)
Quote (fnxtr @ Oct. 01 2010,01:17)
Quote (Badger3k @ Sep. 30 2010,22:35)
Have you seen his latest blame-the-victim post?

Gay Rights Killed Clementi.

It wasn't the roommate that caused his suicide, it was gay rights.

Gah - I actually read part of that crap.  Holy shit, he's even more fucked up than I thought.  Colleges are too tolerant, and Clementi couldn't stand the thought of people seeing him submit to his "evil desires".  

Teddy, stick to broken mice, and leave the deep thinking to those with actual working brains.  Please.

Couldn't possibly be homo-in-denial self-loathing, now, could it.

Perhaps worse then the post itself are the comments....

Just sayin'. Anyone with that big a chip has got some issues.  Sorry if the expression was out of line.

Date: 2010/10/02 00:18:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 01 2010,21:48)
Quote
10. The "higher," more complex animals must have been produced immediately by God, and God alone.

Giraffes?

Henry

No, I think he means alpacas and bighorn sheep.

Oh, and yaks.

Date: 2010/11/01 11:36:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 31 2010,12:32)
Quote (rhmc @ Oct. 30 2010,22:08)
send me the $20 and i'll let her kick my ass.  :)

I'll even supply my own, erm, accoutrements.  Some are even fluffy!   :)

I love you, Wolfie.

There, I said it.

Date: 2010/11/01 14:03:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 31 2010,06:27)
(snip) and a whole blog packed with ignoranuses.

Bwahahahahaha... etc.

My stomach hurts.

Ignoranuses.

Heh heh. Heh.

Date: 2010/11/05 01:23:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Nov. 04 2010,18:45)
BTW, what's "dimentia"?  A condition involving ten cent pieces?

No, "dimentia" is when you're of two minds about something.

I'm guessing GI Joe hasn't had much luck with women since... oh, maybe 10th grade.  

It takes more to impress grown-ups than "I can bench-press your house", doesn't it, Joe.

Date: 2010/11/09 09:04:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 09 2010,02:34)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 08 2010,21:11)
Quote (jeffox @ Nov. 07 2010,17:45)
I think that, in Joe's case, fairies wear boots.
My 2c.  ;)

Hey! Don't mess with the Fairies!!!

Pfff who are they? Never heard of them. Clearly some bunch of chancers. And that bloke on the keyboard...possibly French.

I know, shocking. Someone should do something.

;-)

Louis

Masters of the tasteful understatement. ;-)

Lately I've been more into mashups, myself.

Date: 2010/11/09 12:19:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 09 2010,02:56)
In fact, you're going to have to invoke a super-model.  And a super-model is, "any pathway which starts from a defined set of initial conditions, and leads up to the present, via some set of parameters (which may be specified as either fixed or varying over time) and laws (which may also vary over time)..."

I thought a supermodel pathway started behind the curtain.
No, wait, that's a walkway.

Veal, etc...

Date: 2010/11/09 23:40:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 09 2010,19:10)
Overcompensation?


Yep.

Date: 2010/11/10 10:56:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 10 2010,07:58)
 
Quote
refusing to admit the verboten explanation that an intelligent agent is responsible for the phenomenon.

It's not that the intelligent agent explanation is verboten, it's that it doesn't explain anything.

Well, exactly.

"Okay, let's say some things were designed. Now what?"

Date: 2010/11/10 15:41:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 10 2010,13:19)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 10 2010,15:00)
Quote (didymos @ Nov. 10 2010,13:51)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 10 2010,12:49)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 10 2010,14:41)
   
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 10 2010,13:34)
   
Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 10 2010,20:24)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 10 2010,14:20)
     
Quote
The modified salmon includes a gene from an eel. Any explanation has to explain that fact.

That requirement is apt to leave them floundering.

Cod happen.

Gentlemen, is this really the plaice for this sort of behaviour?

Louis

Well, not if people are gonna carp about it!

I can't believe what I'm herring. LOLer-Skates.

I shall not be reeled into this undignified pun cascade.

So this then will be your sole reply on this matter?

You all have finally jumped the shark.

I knew something smelt fishy about this thread.

Date: 2010/11/11 18:17:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Well... being most definitely out witted here today, I can only lift a bottle of Granville Island Lager in your honour, Louis. Oh, and thanks for the sig.

Happy bidet.

Date: 2010/11/12 00:58:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Nov. 11 2010,20:04)
I loved my favorite local, the Princess of Wales, which didn't serve half pints.

What did she have against short men?

Date: 2010/11/12 08:52:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
CSI=MSU

Date: 2010/11/12 08:59:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 12 2010,02:17)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 12 2010,01:32)
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Nov. 11 2010,16:11)
You almost lost your virginity on a fig?  (blinka blinka)  There isn't a lot of room on top of one of those things...

:D


The MadPanda, FCD

Well that's plum silly!

Orange you glad we aren't going to make a pun cascade out of this?

Louis

Yes it's become a fruitless excersize.

Date: 2010/11/12 15:06:27, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Nov. 12 2010,12:50)
We can't say who the designer is.

aka "Ix-nay on the Od-gay."

I was just thinking about this 'viewpoint discrimination' nonsense.

A bit obvious, maybe, but institutions of (higher) learning, and the more-than-two-brain-cells-to-rub-together community in general not only have the right to 'viewpoint discrimination', they have a need for and duty to it, in the same way that radio operators need to 'discriminate' signal from noise.

Date: 2010/11/12 16:34:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (utidjian @ Nov. 12 2010,13:45)
According to his linkedln page he is a "Service Delivery Consultant at Bank of America".

(snort) Oh, you mean he's a truck driver. Heh.

Date: 2010/11/15 23:13:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
I think Mike Elzinga described them best as bumbling around "like drunken clowns".

Date: 2010/11/16 21:26:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Congratulations, grampa pinhead!

You get to spoil her and then hand her back to the 'rents. :-)

Sophia Ellen ("Wisdom" and "The Bright One") is a beautiful name.

Edit: Ellen, cognate of Helen.

Date: 2010/11/16 23:15:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Nov. 16 2010,21:07)
At the moment, she's far too beautiful for cultural modification!

May she remain so.

Date: 2010/11/16 23:19:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Seversky @ Nov. 16 2010,20:27)
   
Quote
(snip)And that’s precisely why any believer in a personal God should be leery of the claims of the global warming crusade. God would not have designed a world for intelligent beings, with insoluble environmental problems. Nor would He have designed a world with problems that could only be solved by ditching our democracy and allowing ourselves to be ruled by a scientific / bureaucratic elite.

Science. All so far.

Date: 2010/11/17 19:21:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
In short:  
Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 17 2010,16:39)
"I got a royal flush in spades, GI Joe. Whadda *you* got?"

Nice.

Date: 2010/11/17 21:16:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Ho hum.

GI Joe still hasn't progressed past 3rd grade "I'm rubber you're glue" taunting and veiled schoolyard threats.

Bonehead.

Date: 2010/11/18 09:29:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Schroedinger's Dog should set that to music, Louis. :-)

Date: 2010/11/18 22:24:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 18 2010,09:13)
 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 18 2010,16:26)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 18 2010,15:29)
Schroedinger's Dog should set that to music, Louis. :-)

I wouldn't poison SD's great music with my annoyance at Obliviot's bullshit. :-)

Louis

I haven't mastered symphony-for-fart-sounds enough yet to do Louis any justice.



Well when you're done out-humbling one another... seriously: "reject the senseless restriction"... "No time for childish games"..."Pick a fucking book up"

Hawkwind would snap up this lyrical gold in a heartbeat.

Date: 2010/11/19 22:37:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 19 2010,04:39)
I'm thinking the only "kid" Joey could produce would be a turnip he'd badly drawn a face on.

Wilson!!

Date: 2010/11/19 22:43:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 19 2010,06:51)
 
Quote
[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-earth-not-our-mother-not-our-sister-not-a-living-thing-but-our-treasure-trove-our-obse




rvatory-our-library-our-spaceship-and-our-home/#comment-367747]StephenB: [/URL]If the universe shows evidence of having been designed for life—and if life exists as a hierarchy such that elements nourish plants, which in turn, nourish animals, which in turn, nourish humans—that fact alone points to a human centered creation.


And if it should turn out the planet earth is just a long term "farm" for aliens to grow tasty humans...

"and down went my Uncle Sol and started a worm farm." - e.e. cummings

ETA: sorry Amadan, should have read ahead...

Date: 2010/11/19 22:44:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 19 2010,06:39)
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 19 2010,07:47)
Thought is hard work, occasionally unpleasant, typically frowned upon or unrewarded, and definitely unfashionable. People want simple answers in nice packages so they can get on with their day. Good luck to 'em, nowt wrong with that sayeth I. But let's not pretend even for one fucking second it has any bearing on reality or the attempt to discover what that reality might be as best we can.

Quote of the year, IMO.

Yep. Goin' in Facebook notes. Thanks again, Louis.

Date: 2010/11/19 22:58:41, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 18 2010,12:30)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 17 2010,21:52)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 17 2010,14:46)
I guess that's OK.  As long as she knows how to find the area under a curve by the time she's five.

Yeah, that should be an integral part of preschool education, huh?

Careful. It's this sort of comment that can divide the community.

Louis

Sum of us enjoy the occasional indefinite series of puns.

Date: 2010/11/22 12:52:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Thought Provoker @ Nov. 22 2010,10:31)
Actually, JoeG suprised me a little.  He continues to provide entertainment and is a fine representative of the ID Movement.

 
Quote
That paper is about one gene.

link

Yes and SRY is only one gene too.

I know a gal with complete androgen insensivity syndrome. All woman minus a uterus. At puberty they took out testes where her ovaries should have been. All because of a variation in the androgen receptor gene.  One gene.

Date: 2010/11/23 09:46:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Nov. 22 2010,21:11)
Only the truly obsessed will wish to access this video of a baby pinhead with hiccoughs.

Also starring my son, Robin Pinhead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgInwnEaS4g

Precious.

Her Inner Fish is showing. :-)

Date: 2010/11/24 12:10:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 24 2010,07:57)
I should know better than to look at UD directly, it's like viewing a logic eclipse and burning your brain.  Jonathan M has a post up where he claims that Behe's books are peer reviewed:
 
Quote
First, Michael Behe has submitted his theories for peer review. His first book, Darwin’s Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution (The Free Press, 1996) was peer reviewed. Behe also contributed a chapter to Darwin, Design and Public Education and Debating Design – which are both peer-reviewed books.

If anyone still has a sock over there, perhaps they could explain the concept.  If you're still unbanned for some reason, you could also address this claim:
 
Quote
He has also published a pro-ID paper in Protein Science [M.J. Behe and D.W. Snoke, "Simulating Evolution by Gene Duplication of Protein Features That Require Multiple Amino Acid Residues," Protein Science, 13 (2004): 2651-2664.].

If I remember correctly, that paper supported evolutionary theory, not ID.

Those of you who've been here a long time need to share some of what you're smoking.  The number of out and out lies these people spout drives my blood pressure higher than my 320 pound great uncle's.

In their Bizarro-world, "peer-review" means "handed off to their echo-chamber buddies for ego strokes".

I mean, really, can you imagine a DI-bot reading "Edge of Evolution" and saying to Behe "hmm... not sure your data are accurate here, maybe you should look at these papers..."

As if.

edit subject/verb agreement.

Date: 2010/11/26 16:58:04, Link
Author: fnxtr
Apparently the same "thing" in different states is different "things", as long as we have a word for it.

So "magma" isn't "rock", 'cause we have different words for it, but "molten lead" is still "lead".

Doofus.

Date: 2010/11/28 15:47:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 28 2010,07:21)
David Mabus (real name Dennis Markuze) is Canadian.

http://www.canlii.org/en....46.html

IANAL, but up to 5 years in prison for making threats on the internet.

http://www.defencelaw.com/utter-threats.html

"The offence is not meant to criminalize idle threats or words blurted out only in anger, desperation, bitterness or frustration. Words said in jest or in a manner that they could not be taken seriously do not constitute a threat."

... and let's face it, it's hard to take this clown seriously.

Date: 2010/11/28 16:11:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Quote (bviolexb @ Nov. 28 2010,13:54)
fnxtr - you are going to be beheaded... let's see if it is serious....

HA HA HA HA HA etc...

Date: 2010/11/29 19:27:50, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Nov. 29 2010,12:16)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 29 2010,11:04)
Keeping Joe, erm, 'prolific', is bad for ID. And funny. My compassion ran out when he started trying to arrange meet-ups for fisticuffs.

S'okay, Richard; I've got your back. <*flexes*>  RAWR!!

swoon.

Date: 2010/11/30 12:39:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Carlsonjok is right: Dennis isn't even interesting. He just tosses out scoops from the same bucket of puke over and over and over.
Yawn.

edit punctuation

Date: 2010/11/30 14:36:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Maya @ Nov. 30 2010,12:04)
Hey, I'm from a Marine Corps family and this makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.  

Then you should damn well know that guns are not to be trifled with: save 'em for the *real* enemies.  

And don't waste ammo when derisive laughter will work just as well.
Quote
Leave the boys alone!  Too damn many hoplophobes in my department as it is.

Joe ain't worth a bullet.

Back to the yawning.

Date: 2010/11/30 21:09:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ Nov. 30 2010,13:13)
Well slap me silly and call me Sally...I just discovered that the Disco Tute has an office right down the road from me! No joke. Here's a pic. At least this is the street view that corresponds to the address on their contact page.

Nice to see they clean your clothes while they dirty up your mind...

3213 or 3216? That strip mall is 3216; 3213 would be across the street by the Baja Mexican Grill.

Edit map reading skills.

Date: 2010/12/05 17:57:05, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ Dec. 03 2010,15:21)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Dec. 02 2010,17:57)
 And I'm actually a swallower, not a spittler.

Blessed is the swallower. Rawr!

Yes.

And cunnilingus is next to godliness.

Date: 2010/12/10 10:34:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Happy birthdays, the pair of youse.

Date: 2010/12/10 10:54:33, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (didymos @ Dec. 10 2010,01:47)
The Big Gay Thread may soon claim it's first bannination victim in zephyr:  
Quote
Apologise for what? Offending homophobes who pretend they are not? If I don’t apologise for offending your uh sensibilities what are you going to do? Send in the Inquisition, call the cops?

"Take away my birthday?"

Date: 2010/12/11 12:11:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
I must be either too old, living in the wrong town, or just out of touch.

Where can I find this "widespread sexual chaos" they keep promising?

Oh, and to SAR, I recommend Dar Williams' "Teenagers, Kick Our Butts". Sadly, no youtube on that one.

Date: 2010/12/11 16:09:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 11 2010,13:40)
Quote
As individualism developed, so did the feelings of attachment we now call "love,"


Lots of species exhibit attachment. What's interesting in humans is the variation. There are naturally monogamous people. And some not. Some in between.

Same applies to devotion to children.

We aren't, strictly speaking, a "pair-bonding" species. If we were, there'd be no infidelity, no prostitution, no divorce.  Once pair-bonding species mate, they just don't respond sexually to any other individuals. We do. Some more than others.

eta 1 comma

Date: 2010/12/12 03:38:17, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

(Sigh)

Take your meds, Dennis. There's a good lad.

Date: 2010/12/12 18:57:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oh FFS, here I thought I was late again while reading all the greetings from LAST year.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Wolfhound, you are one hot bitch. :-)

I'm just surprised no-one's said that yet.

poxfox*


*My initials plus x's and o's

Date: 2010/12/14 18:35:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 14 2010,09:18)
Quote
These data strongly and collectively support the active site model first suggested for the C3 ribozyme (6): RNA 20ð30Þ aminoacylation requires only an unusually simple center composed of three nucleotides.


This is fascinating stuff.  

No kidding. 20 eth 30 thorn!?! They use obsolete alphabet characters and everything! Awesome. :-}

Date: 2010/12/14 18:40:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 14 2010,08:37)
Like bananas, you have to peel them from the right end.

Skinning rabbits is dead easy, rats can't be that difficult.

Date: 2010/12/15 22:58:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 12 2010,04:10)


 
Quote
Me too..., by IkaInk


Responses to Markuzi/Mabus can be found on the BW.

It may be time to notify his ISP about his behaviour.  If ISP's still care about such things.

Date: 2010/12/16 15:30:06, Link
Author: fnxtr
Why do I keep thinking of that old Thomas Dolby song?
All "SCIENCE!" so far. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

Anyway, the JIE, ISCID, etc.: the very definition of re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Date: 2010/12/18 13:38:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Dec. 18 2010,07:37)
A while ago K-F demanded someone be banned from UD for using his real name. The fact that GEM of TKI had a link to his personal blog which displayed his name, was of little importance to K-F.

Well, yes. As I'm sure Louis has noticed, KF's chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and Fear. Surpise, fear, and ruthless efficiency...

I really hope LarTanner's next response to KF is akin to "Go fuck yourself."

Date: 2010/12/21 21:35:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Science has thwarted god's plan to wipe out homos.

Date: 2010/12/24 02:59:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 23 2010,16:14)
The late lamented John Wadham was brought in at one stage to try to teach Larry Mullen of U2 which end of the stick he was meant to hold.

The great man's verdict on Larry:

 
Quote
That eejit doesn't have enough rhythm to masturbate.

I'll never forgive him and Clayton wrecking the Mission Impossible theme by doing a version in 4/4. Ugly.

Date: 2010/12/25 01:49:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 24 2010,19:32)
Merry Christmas everyone.

I had to brag about the best Christmas present ever.  My mom got me 500 minutes on one of NASA's 15inch telescopes (Australia, Canary Islands, and South America).

Huzzah! Congratulations Mark 5! What a great present!

Eyes only, or will there be postings???

Date: 2010/12/26 01:43:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 25 2010,04:45)
As you imbibe in the holiday spirits today, remember to not over do it.



Just Saying.......

Wolfie? Is that you?

Date: 2010/12/27 13:43:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dhogaza @ Dec. 27 2010,11:02)
Hmmm, there's a startling inconsistency between the top shot and bottom one (other than the bird having gone missing when I took the top one).

Can y'all figure it out? :)

Judging by the shadows, I'd say you took the bottom one first?

Date: 2010/12/28 09:06:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Quack @ Dec. 28 2010,03:56)
Quote
Tell me again who the writer of Genesis is and when exactly he wrote it

I wish I had a time machine and could go back to the centuries before it was written and listen to their palaver around the campfire.

It was probably more akin to sitting around the table in Foreman's basement.

Date: 2010/12/30 08:47:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dale_Husband @ Dec. 30 2010,00:41)
Is there anyone else who suspects that Kris and IBIG are either one and the same, or know each other directly? They have both been trolling in PT for some time and have operated almost like a wrestling tag team.

They have some of the same tools, but IBIG is all:

"I have faith, and science is just faith, too, y'know!, plus I bet you can't answer this question: who was the first man to get a haircut? Huh? Don't know, do ya? I win!",

whereas Kris is more:

"SYENTISTS R MEEEEEEEN!!! WHAAAH!!!"

Date: 2010/12/31 12:25:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
My response to Kris's latest screed about science and happiness.

Well, Kris, maybe if you backed up your unsupported "many people" assertion in the first place, we'd have some jumping off point for discussion. As it is, you made an unsubstantiated claim, you got disagreed with, and you went off the rails with "Are you saying... always...always...always...?"

No wonder people get annoyed with you. You're still "debating" like a 10th-grade chess club nerd.

Of course there are happy subsistence farmers in the world.

The point <i>you</i> missed is that trying to understand <i>how stuff works</i>, which is all science is really meant to do, has given most of the world longer, healthier lives.  A lot of people are happy about that.

If you want to get into distribution of wealth and cultural independence and the structure of societies and the meaning of "happiness" and overpopulation, that's an entirely different argument unrelated to <i>how science works</i>.

But if you have changed your argument from "scientists are mean" (My answer: Yup. Tough darts. Suck it up.) to "science doesn't have all the answers", well... duh.  Is Mozart better music than Einsturzende Neubauten? Not a scientific question.

Most of us here understand the boundaries of the scientific endeavour. I don't know what makes you think we don't.

Date: 2010/12/31 12:33:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sorry, copied from IBIG's thread.

Well, Kris, maybe if you backed up your unsupported "many people" assertion in the first place, we'd have some jumping off point for discussion. As it is, you made an unsubstantiated claim, you got disagreed with, and you went off the rails with "Are you saying... always...always...always...?"

No wonder people get annoyed with you. You're still "debating" like a 10th-grade chess club nerd.

Of course there are happy subsistence farmers in the world.

The point <i>you</i> missed is that trying to understand <i>how stuff works</i>, which is all science is really meant to do, has given most of the world longer, healthier lives.  A lot of people are happy about that.

If you want to get into distribution of wealth and cultural independence and the structure of societies and the meaning of "happiness" and overpopulation, that's an entirely different argument unrelated to <i>how science works</i>.

But if you have changed your argument from "scientists are mean" (My answer: Yup. Tough darts. Suck it up.) to "science doesn't have all the answers", well... duh.  Is Mozart better music than Einsturzende Neubauten? Not a scientific question.

Most of us here understand the boundaries of the scientific endeavour. I don't know what makes you think we don't.

Date: 2011/01/02 13:29:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Loons: not just on our dollar coins.

Date: 2011/01/02 23:41:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 02 2011,18:18)
An attempt to link to the images taken so far.

Kevin's Astronomy Pics

These are from a 15inch optical scope on the Canary Islands.  

This is a link to facebook, so I hope the details appear for you.  Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks

Those are gorgeous and awe-inspiring. Thanks for sharing!

Date: 2011/01/03 21:07:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 03 2011,09:53)
   
Quote (awarfarexs @ Jan. 03 2011,16:29)
     
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 03 2011,05:32)
     
Quote (awarfarexs @ Jan. 03 2011,00:10)
we just want to demonstrate how easy it is for us to annihilate you FUCKING BASTARDS... you forfeit your lives today....

Isn't interesting how punctuation changes the meaning of a sentence?

I think Denny means he is going to annihilate us whilst we are actually, physically fucking some bastards.

Luckily, my wife was born within wedlock. Phew! I'm safe!

Merry New Arbitrary Calendar Level Up to All!

Louis

louis


grammar will not save you, fucker

My English teacher would beg to differ with you, Denny.
(snip)

Late to the party again. Fashionably late.

Maybe Dennis means he will annihilate us while he is fucking bastards, or by means of fucking bastards. It would all be much clearer if he expressed himself in Latin.

And yeah, what's up with the little shop vac thingy? Is that his version of the StayPuft Marshmallow Man (citywide devastation with a smiley face)?  Or is he just admitting he sucks?

Date: 2011/01/03 23:31:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 03 2011,20:15)
I would love to see David Mabus and Joe G. meet...

HA HA HA HA

Sir Robin meets the Cowardly Lion...

Date: 2011/01/03 23:36:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 03 2011,19:38)
It's Chunga's Revenge.


Is that a Vibro-Champ she's plugged into? Sweet.

(No, no Wolfie, it's an amplifier. A sound amplifier)

Date: 2011/01/04 18:58:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Shorter version:  
Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 04 2011,14:15)
A bunch of stuff happened. I believe in God. Therefore GODDIDIT.

Well. Can't argue with that sort of reasoning now, can you.

Sheesh. (headshake)

Date: 2011/01/04 19:06:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 04 2011,13:38)
One of my very bestest friends is French.  He's
handsome, gentlemanly, sweet, witty, clever, and sexy as hell.

He also smells funny.

It's the cheese.

As a friend says, I don't mind cheese that smells like feet, but I can't abide feet that smell like cheese.

BTW that's CDN $19.99... Oh never mind. I was gonna make a self-effacing joke about the exchange rate, but it's actually pretty good these days.

Date: 2011/01/04 19:09:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Plus with a HENRY™, you can vacuum up pencil shavings! Game tokens! Ceramic cat doodoo!

Wow, he's got us on the ropes now.

Har. Har. Har.

Date: 2011/01/04 19:12:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 04 2011,15:56)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 04 2011,16:54)
 
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 04 2011,10:51)
 
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 04 2011,14:51)
 
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 04 2011,07:54)

   
Quote
If you are American you have betrayed Canada!


Seriously? Wow! Who knew?

But Louis is an Englishman...who'd he betray?

a) English-ish

b) English enough to have betrayed, well, 90% of the planet at some point in history.

Louis

Well... at least you aren't French.  That would take care of the other 10% too.

I am an eighth French...

...but I think this is a GOOD thing.

Louis

1/4 Francais here. Mom's mom was a Verdier.

Heh. Mom was 1/2 French and 1/2 Irish but it didn't occur to me until I was 30 to ask if they had been Catholic at some point. Musta been. No matter how many relatives I meet, every family reunion I go to, I know 1/2 the people there.

(singing) Eeeevery sperm is saaaacred...

Date: 2011/01/04 22:28:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 04 2011,19:37)
By the peculiarities of patriarchal nomenclature, I have a very, very French family name, but the vast majority of my heritage is German and Irish with generous helpings of English, Scots, and Welsh thrown in here and there.

Needless to say, that pesky article at the start of my family name has caused no end of trouble, as has the anglicized pronunciation...


The MadPanda, FCD

Yeah, I'm 3rd gen X-Mennonite on my dad's side, so Germany->Russia->Netherlands->Canada (cue Bill Murray's line about being kicked out of every decent country in Europe).  
German last name, dad spoke a few words of Dutch, I learned German at UBC and listening to early Kraftwerk.  So far no real Russian connection, though I do like their alphabet.

Date: 2011/01/04 23:27:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 04 2011,21:02)
To make up for my feelings of Heinz 57 inferiority...

Think of it as "hybrid vigour". ;-}

Date: 2011/01/04 23:32:02, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (the_ignored @ Jan. 04 2011,07:55)
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 03 2011,08:20)
Vox and I are having fun: Religious fitness and science education. Starting at 1/1/11 11:58 AM.

I like how the man's wife (spacebunny) is sticking up for him, even though he's such a misogynistic little prick.  

Can anyone here explain that?

Listening to too much Tammy Wynette.

Date: 2011/01/06 13:21:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 05 2011,15:39)
There must be a way to harness the energy produced from the endless self-congratulatory/ignorant/bigoted wankfest that is UD...

...one downside, it may make our machinery dumber.

Louis

Like strapping a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropping it off the counter...

Date: 2011/01/06 13:44:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,11:35)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 06 2011,13:21)
 
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 05 2011,15:39)
There must be a way to harness the energy produced from the endless self-congratulatory/ignorant/bigoted wankfest that is UD...

...one downside, it may make our machinery dumber.

Louis

Like strapping a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropping it off the counter...

That never works.  Igor and I tried it, and all we got was a lot of ruined toast and an extremely angry cat.


The MadPanda, FCD

How about putting in on a rotisserie with a drive belt attached?

Date: 2011/01/06 13:48:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,11:45)
[quote=IBelieveInGod,Jan. 06 2011,11:18][/quote]
Quote
But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda.


Abortion is not a "secular agenda" - what ignorance. Abortion is a medical procedure provided for health and well-being. It isn't even a "promoted" procedure, unlike say...plastic surgery and LASIK, so I have no idea what you're going on about.

And Ogre's right...the fact is Christians use the procedure, along with Muslims, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, agnostics, deists, and atheists, among others. So your argument has no validity.

But of course this even completely misses the point - abortions are NOT done in the name of atheism so your claim is moot anyway.

"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

Date: 2011/01/06 18:23:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,13:37)
Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 05 2011,14:50)
I was an apprentice in a solicitors' firm run by a distant cousin. In the 1930s the firm had represented an unpleasant character (a clockmaker here in Dublin, a German immigrant) who objected to a new tenant who was Jewish. In a landmark case that stands as a tribute to Irish Catholic legal principles, Herr Schlegel won, it being found by the High Court that anti-semitism was a "reasonable ground" for the rejection of the assignment.

Of course that would have no standing today, but the kicker comes with the story of my great grand-aunt (or thereabouts), sister of the founder of that firm. She took it into her pretty head about that time to do some genealogical research. The exercise came to an undignified halt and was Never Mentioned Again after she ran across the Tel Aviv branch of the family.

This still causes me to cackle with malevolent laughter.

I once called my maternal grandmother to tell her how cool it was that I found census returns for an African-American branch of the tree in my grandfather's line. I thought it was awesome. She was not excited.

...apparently, she already knew.

That too found its way into the Never Speak Of It To Grandma Again file.

There's quite a large first nations community on Vancouver Island that considers my mom's family "cousins".  Apparently great-grampa was a very affectionate man.

Date: 2011/01/06 18:28:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (prong_hunter @ Jan. 06 2011,16:13)
IBIG!

You said, "Okay let’s see you create non-living matter from nothing, and then let’s see you create life from that non-living matter, and then I will talk with you:):):) If it is so easy for life to have come about from non-living matter without the intervention of a Creator, then it should be so much easier for science to CREATE life in a lab:):):) And I’m supposed to be delusional?"

How come the US government has granted a patent for ABIOGENESIS?

So talk to me. I've just shown you what you said can't be done.

Holy crap that's stupid:

"We can't do it, so it must have been God."

That's about as enlightened as sacrificing virgins to the volcano god.

Of course, if/when life is ever created from primordial elements, we'll get the "Intelligence was involved" argument.

Yawn.

Date: 2011/01/06 18:29:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 06 2011,11:46)
Quote
There must be a way to harness the energy produced from the endless self-congratulatory/ignorant/bigoted wankfest that is UD...


Hopeful Monsters Inc.

Brilliant.

Date: 2011/01/06 18:30:32, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 06 2011,11:36)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:30)
ID guy has the last post on most of the threads atm.

Now that there are no evolutionists messing up the environment over at TT they can get on with the science of ID....

They caught on to our evil plan to keep them busy to prevent ID research.  We're done for now - hide the ebola and the matches!

Do you mean "we're done-for, now", or "we're done, for now?"  :-)

Date: 2011/01/06 22:24:19, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,19:09)
Is 'small' a sufficient word for the organ in question?  I should think the words 'limp' or 'flaccid' as well as 'ridiculous' might apply...or so I hear from the few persons who count as credible witnesses whenever they can stop laughing long enough to answer questions.


The MadPanda, FCD

not to mention "lonely" and "forgotten".

Date: 2011/01/06 22:26:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,19:03)
That's so much better than the alternative, yeah?   :)


The MadPanda, FCD

Yeah.

Date: 2011/01/06 22:33:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 05 2011,16:02)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 05 2011,17:45)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 05 2011,13:30)
So, my question is, which is the designer?  God -or- do we live in the Matrix?

Not to give Joe too much help, but if we lived in the Matrix, wouldn't the food be better?

Naw, the designers don't know what stuff tastes like, so everything tastes like chicken.

Actually everything tastes like rabbit. I mean alligator. It really depends on what you eat first.

Date: 2011/01/07 21:20:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 07 2011,06:56)
reminds me of a joke:

It was a joke, battletank. :-)

Date: 2011/01/07 21:27:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Steverino @ Jan. 07 2011,15:37)


There...fixed that for ya.

Nice work, Steverino*!
Can you change the cast, too? :-)


*I would be disappointed if I learned that you and Stevaroni are the same person.

Date: 2011/01/07 21:31:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 07 2011,09:00)
Given how many of our forefathers were prone to playing around like Hugh Hefner, this is less of a surprise than it could be.


(No offense, Mister Heffner.)


The MadPanda, FCD

Exactly... "cousin". :-)

Date: 2011/01/08 13:27:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Hey, IBIG, I'm an atheist.

I've never raped, killed or cheated anyone.

Or even wanted to.

I don't need your imaginary friend to keep me in line.

Why do you?

Date: 2011/01/08 19:04:20, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 08 2011,16:55)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 08 2011,13:27)
Hey, IBIG, I'm an atheist.

I've never raped, killed or cheated anyone.

Or even wanted to.

I don't need your imaginary friend to keep me in line.

Why do you?

I don't know if you have or not, all I have is your word for that, which according to many here is not good enough! Where is the evidence to support that you never did any of those things?

No answer, huh.

That's what I thought.

Coward.

Date: 2011/01/09 12:34:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
I'm starting to feel like the mean kid at school who torments the short-bus kids. This isn't fun anymore.

Biggy, you're welcome to your faith. I hope it makes you happy, and a kinder, more generous human being.

Just keep it out of publicly-funded schools, okay?

Thanks. Bye now.

Date: 2011/01/11 10:00:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 11 2011,07:23)
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0015364

Amazing.

This is the kind of real work that is anathema to the armchair wankers of ID.  But just watch them turn it into another "intelligence was involved" pedantic circle jerk.

Date: 2011/01/11 10:06:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Steverino @ Jan. 10 2011,19:01)
Where's the Crocoduck and the banana???!!!

Is the sequel going to be "Right Behind"?

Isn't it about where Kirk and Whozits are sitting in the banana video?

No?

Never mind....

Date: 2011/01/11 17:08:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 11 2011,10:24)
As an ignorant bystander to this kind of work, I'd sure like to know how the library of sequences was designed.

Some preview of the sure to be upcoming Corny Hunter blog would be interesting.

Second paragraph of the introduction may help. Is that what you were asking?

If I'm reading it correctly, they used their PNPetc... codon pattern to insert sequences that would code for a specific protein shape (my bold):

 
Quote
For example, to design a helical bundle comprising ?-helices with hydrophilic faces exposed to aqueous solvent and hydrophobic faces buried in the interior of a protein, the binary pattern of polar (P) and nonpolar (N) residues should be PNPPNNPPNPPNNP, consistent with the structural repeat of 3.6 residues per alpha-helical turn [9], [10]. For the current studies, we used the binary code strategy to design and construct a library of sequences designed to fold into 102-residue 4-helix bundles. Our strategies for protein design and selecting biological function are summarized in Figure 1. Details describing the construction and biophysical characterization of the library are presented elsewhere [11], [12].



Apparently any of the polar/nonpolar amino acids in that order will make the protein shape they wanted.

Date: 2011/01/11 20:20:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Seversky @ Jan. 11 2011,15:44)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Jan. 11 2011,17:03)
O’Leary sheds some light:    
Quote

There is currently no explanation for consciousness, materialist or otherwise, so nothing to oppose except rah rahs for a materialism that has done nothing significant in this area.

If someone wants to write in and explain that in such-and-such a brain area researchers found … forget it.

Anyone who has been under anaesthesia a few times, as I have, will not be surprised to learn how consciousness is temporarily lost.

We do not thereby learn what it is.

In some cases we might question how much was there to begin with...

Stating the obvious department:

Did she pray herself into unconsciousness, or was it chemicals applied to her brain?

Chomsky said, in effect,  the brain/mind connection may be a maze too complex for us simple mice to figure out.



Therefore Jesus, apparently.

Date: 2011/01/14 13:43:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 13 2011,15:55)
Quote (dochocson @ Jan. 13 2011,11:51)
Did KF invent the whole oily ad hominem straw man thingy? I imagine him smiling smugly at his own cleverness every time he types it.

Part of me is tempted to get him and Kw*k in an argument just to see who can smile most smugly at his own cleverness.

Part of me realizes that this would be akin to crossing the streams and recoils in horror.

"It would be bad."

Date: 2011/01/14 13:47:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 14 2011,10:29)
But but but but we DO eat babies, don't we?

You...you...you mean all this time I've been the only one? Oh no. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! The guilt! The horror! The shame! The delicious babies deep fried and smothered in barbeque sauce...No must not think about scrummy babies.

{Ahem}

Louis

Meat is murder.

Tasty, tasty, murder.

Date: 2011/01/14 16:46:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Seversky @ Jan. 14 2011,12:29)
Benveniste made claims about being able to make digital recordings of some sort of EM 'signal' emanating from these solutions, transmitting the files over the Internet, and then inducing an effect in water exposed to these recordings at the other end.

Coincidentally, this is exactly the procedure used to add the correct amount of Vermouth to a martini.

Date: 2011/01/14 17:20:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Sigh.

On your bike, Dennis. There's a good lad.

Date: 2011/01/14 21:37:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 14 2011,18:59)
P.S. Texas, of course. Texas does 2 things well: BBQ and the death penalty.

Coincidence? I think not!

Date: 2011/01/15 16:24:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 15 2011,14:22)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 15 2011,14:27)
...At least IBIG was coherent.  He was wrong a lot, but at least you could talk to him.  Not like JoeG or cowardly-trenchcoat boy.

I beg to differ on that: IBelieve's idea of "civility" is to mindlessly worship him as the Godhead, and anything less is Devil worship Atheism.

IBelieve's idea of "evidence" is to either quotemine and twist other people's words in order to deliberately distort everything they say, or to simply assert that he has "FAITH," and to ask him to provide honest support his dishonest word games is Devil worship Atheism.

IBelieve's idea of "discussion" is to make up some stupid rhetorical question that speaks volumes about his own willful stupidity, and then ignore all responses in order to boast how smart he is, except for a few responses that he maliciously distorts in order to mock and humiliate those people for not being as stupid as he is.

And then there is the fact that IBelieve conflates "Atheism" with Devil worship, Science, Evolution, Abiogenesis, Islam, hate crimes, Communism, Stalinism and Religious Intolerance.

Not to mention dividing by zero, and improper resolution of the leading-tone.

Date: 2011/01/15 19:33:16, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Wesley R. Elsberry]

Quote (felixjones2000 @ Jan. 15 2011,15:22)
we want your flowing blood... you have forfeit your right to live....


now DIE FUCKERS...

Okay, seriously now, Dennis.

Do you really want to a be a pissed-off outcast for the rest of your life?

Just get a little help and you can rejoin the human race.

It's your choice, man.

Date: 2011/01/19 18:45:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (khan @ Jan. 19 2011,14:57)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 19 2011,17:34)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick

 
Quote
Tick is the common name for the small arachnids in superfamily Ixodoidea that, along with other mites, constitute the Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites (external parasites), living by hematophagy on the blood of mammals, birds, and occasionally reptiles and amphibians. ...


 
Quote
...Ticks are blood-feeding parasites that are often found in tall grass where they will wait to attach to a passing host

I have removed ticks from myself and from cats.
The buggers have no preference for watermelon.

Maybe they just like the colour red.

Date: 2011/01/19 18:49:56, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 19 2011,11:16)
Hey IBIG,

answer this for me:

If God commanded people to start eating babies, what would you do?

There are three possible answers:

1) "No, it would still be immoral." That one's easy, and the best answer, and of course it demolishes the idea that God dictates what is moral.

2) "God would never do that, because God is moral." In order for this statement to have any meaning, morality must exist independent of God -- otherwise we could not decide whether God would do a particular thing based on whether or not that thing was moral, because that would be synonymous to asking ourselves whether God would do a particular thing based on whether God would do a particular thing.

3) "Knives out and start the rotesserie!" This, and only this, preserves the idea that morality comes from God, and only from God.

Your logic was impeccable, Captain, we are in grave danger.

Date: 2011/01/20 09:11:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MichaelJ @ Jan. 19 2011,02:26)
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Wesley R. Elsberry]<br/><br/>
Quote (yrobotsy99 @ Jan. 19 2011,13:14)
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 18 2011,22:12)
The same note again.  Can't you even try to be creative?

Fuck, you're crazy, stupid, and dull.  Why don't you go back to frightening small children, you buffoon?


The MadPanda, FCD

madpanda. you cease to exist today....

In what timezone?

I was thinking about that while "End of Days" was on the tube the other night. Evil comes to NY on midnight NYE 1999... but it's already 2000 in half the world.

Date: 2011/01/20 11:41:09, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 20 2011,08:40)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Jan. 19 2011,12:52)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 19 2011,13:03)
I'm on it.

Maybe Chris or RK will grace you with their presence, then run away as they refuse to answer questions and go on long regurgitive posts about nothing at all.

I'm waiting for Mabus to appear and threaten to cut my head off.

I think I scared the poor little baby off.  It cannot possibly have been that easy.  :p  Tell me it's a fluke, please...

If you really want one of those prizewinning threats, next time he shows up make fun of the way his mother dresses him.  That'll get you his personal attention in a hurry, but since he can't be arsed to put any effort into it, it's going to be a copy and paste job.


The MadPanda, FCD

He was here this morning according to the.. um... little thingy that says who's here.
Oh, no sorry, that wasn't him that was zrobotsz. Completely different person.
Seems to have slunk off without any loony threats this time, though...

Date: 2011/01/20 11:42:18, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 20 2011,08:26)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 19 2011,23:33)
which is unfortunate because the first post is picture of a guy with a pink dick on his forehead and that's NSFW).

Great art is meant to challenge you.

So you keep saying. :-)

Date: 2011/01/20 11:44:10, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (carlsonjok @ Jan. 20 2011,09:37)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 20 2011,11:26)
 
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 20 2011,05:06)
   
Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2011,19:44)
Or maybe Joe misidentified the insects as ticks.

That's my hypothesis. Immature squash bugs could be mistaken for ticks, if you don't bother to notice that they only have 6 legs rather than 8. And Joey is well known for his powers of observation like that.

But, but, but... how could he confuse ticks and squash bugs?  Surely they have different amounts of CSI.

They do.  If we look at Wikipedia we see that the tick entry is 7215 characters long, where the squash bug entry is only 2490 characters long.  So, the tick has 57,720 bits of CSI, while the squash bug only has 19,920 bits of CSI.

And you evo-materialist assholes can't prove a squash bug turned into a tick by an accumulation of genetic accidents!

But do they weigh the same??!??!?!

Date: 2011/01/20 18:40:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 20 2011,10:23)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 20 2011,10:26)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 19 2011,23:33)
which is unfortunate because the first post is picture of a guy with a pink dick on his forehead and that's NSFW).

Great art is meant to challenge you.

Or at least challenge somebody.  Got to push the envelope, which is why we got impressionism, fauvism, pointalism, cubism, dada, surrealism, post-surrealism, last-tuesday-ism...


The MadPanda, FCD

(singing) "Aaaalll we are saaaayinnng....."

Date: 2011/01/20 23:02:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 20 2011,19:35)
(shorter version)

YOU WON'T LET ME SHIT IN YOUR LIVING ROOM!!! WHAAAA!!!! CENSORSHIP!!!! WHAAA!!!

Date: 2011/01/21 22:39:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 21 2011,19:55)
The canonical genetic code can be represented as a degenerate code with 64 input values and 22 output values. Only 20 of the output values, though, specify an amino acid. The other two output values are for "start" and "stop".

I remember back in 1992 when some of my colleagues at Battelle PNL presented on their database for human genome results. They noted that they were scaling to be able to handle the large volume of data, and how the human genome comprised some 3 billion bases on 24 chromosomes.

24? I thought that was odd, since humans have 23 chromosomes. But they treated the sex chromosomes as two separate chromosomes, which makes sense from a programming standpoint.

I was about to say "You could somehow model the sex chromosomes as an XOR function", then realized how naive that was. :-)

Date: 2011/01/21 22:55:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 21 2011,03:01)
Kris,
I made you a thread now, to have the reasonable discussion you claim you want to have.

So, what do you want to talk about?

Sigh.

Kris reminds me of someone online long ago who insisted he was being discriminated against because he was a straight, white, male. I pointed out to him that he was more likely being discriminated against because he was an obnoxious jerk.

Date: 2011/01/21 23:02:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 21 2011,20:54)
So much for a "rational discussion". Pfft.

You made a statement.

Most responses were "Yep, you're right. So what?"

There was a bit of trash-talk in there, but if you're serious about a discussion instead of a pissing contest, just ignore it.

So:

Kris: "Science can't prove there's no designer."

Everyone else: "Correct."

Next point?

Date: 2011/01/21 23:08:42, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 21 2011,02:56)
Quote
She thinks the same about all the modern art movements as me... it's what we refer to as "steaming piles of horse hooey".


This!

As opposed to modern music, which has for the most part, been dumbed down to the aural equivalent of unflavoured gelatin.  Brightly coloured, I grant you.

Date: 2011/01/21 23:39:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 21 2011,21:27)
Quote (DNA_Jock @ Jan. 21 2011,07:13)
 
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 21 2011,05:17)
     
Quote (Alan Fox @ Jan. 21 2011,01:29)
         
Quote
You guys make science look real bad. No wonder so many people don't trust science.


Not sure about that, Kris. I think what makes science (or rather any particular theory) look bad is if it turns out not to be true when tested by experiment.

I got interested by chance in ID about 6 years ago and, since then, have been banned at all but one (ARN - which has adopted the alternative strategy of not permitting new registrations) of the ID sites that I am aware of that actually permit comments. It seemed to me that asking simple questions about ID or correcting misinformation about evolutionary theory were the usual reasons for a ban (though not the pretext, if mentioned at all).

ID's problem (as regards to science rather than politics or apologetics) in my view is simply that there is no coherent ID theory and being asked for details seems to be upsetting for ID proponents.

Solution; get a testable theory of ID, unless you know where to find one already.


Alan, I can't reasonably comment on why you were banned from those sites since I haven't seen what was said by you or anyone else. I have read some discussions on Uncommon Descent (UD), and have noticed that some of the ID proponents do argue fairly strongly at times but they're a LOT more decent about it than people typically are here, or on sites like Panda's Thumb and Pharyngula. I've also noticed that some of the ID proponents quote or cite scientific studies to support some of their claims...
snip

Kris,

I will agree with you that the tone at Pharyngula can sometimes be counter-productive, but all of these sites, especially PT, are paragons of tolerance compared with UD or TT.
If you are interested, I can review for you precisely why I was banned from UD. I am sure many others here can do the same. The data are in, respectful dissent is not allowed. It matters little whether the remaining contributors are polite to each other - the dialog has been stifled, leaving the echo chamber free to MISQUOTE and MISCITE scientific studies - no-one is left there to correct them.
To repeat, if you are interested, I can show you why I was banned. But I don't think you are interested, I think you are just a concern troll. I predict your reply will focus on my penultimate sentence.

I don't doubt that UD and some other sites are intolerant of some comments but that doesn't make it right for this site or any other religion bashing site to also be intolerant. This site, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, and some others are just as much an echo chamber as the sites you people condemn.

Okay, let's start again. Please continue the exchange on the second thread started just for you (because, you know, we're so intolerant and all).

Date: 2011/01/22 00:31:13, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (didymos @ Jan. 21 2011,22:10)
More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:    
Quote
A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it.

I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider.

IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind.


Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection.


So a spider making a web isn't "nature, operating freely"?  WTF?? Spiders aren't natural?  How do you know spiders have "intent"? What part of the spider brain have you been studying?

.. and if you'd never seen or heard of a spider, what then?

You wouldn't just say "this looks designed" and refuse to investigate further, or simply attribute it to a Magic Web Deity, would you?

I dunno, maybe you would.

Me, I'd say "Whoa, how'd this get here!?"

... and would discover it was perfectly natural. Made by something perfectly natural, by natural means.

See, Joe, how this is different from "Sometime, somewhere, somehow, somebody did something"?

Date: 2011/01/22 00:32:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Come on, Kris, you've been lurking here for at least an hour. What's the next point?

Date: 2011/01/22 14:54:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Oy.

And this is the guy who's major complaint seems to be "Scientist R MEEEN! Whaaah!"

At least, I think that's what he's trying to say.

Sometimes he's like a cross between Dennis Markuze and Robert Byers, i.e., a narcissistic nutjob.

Date: 2011/01/22 14:55:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 22 2011,09:24)
Wolfie, you're a true poet after my own heart!

I don't think it's your heart she's after, rock star.

Date: 2011/01/23 01:52:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Welcome back, Kristine.

Date: 2011/01/23 02:14:23, Link
Author: fnxtr
Holy crap, another year already?

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing.

Happy birthdays, again, gentlemen.  

Remember that beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.



(Louis, looking at your story from last year about Stonehenge makes me think of Withnail and I. I dunno why, it just does.)

Date: 2011/01/23 22:05:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 23 2011,15:12)
ETA: By the way, sex IS a game! reproduction is the final goal, but you do have to practice. And as with boxing, dancing... you need to try multiple sparing partners in order to get full potential...

... or to fully appreciate the right partner when you finally do find them.

Anecdote: I have an acquaintance who was seriously considering sexual therapy because she and her husband both thought she was frigid. Of course they were both virgins when they married. He eventually bailed out, and she later learned there was nothing wrong with her, he was just a lousy lover.

By your standars, ftk, she would have lived the rest of her life in ignorance and misery. I can't believe any True Christian™ would wish that on another (she was married to a Lutheran minister).

Date: 2011/01/23 22:22:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 23 2011,08:43)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 23 2011,11:36)
Thanks, folks! I'm still in the grip of some virus or other picked up when I visited Vegas earlier this month. It's just me and Beka, the mini-dachshund, here for what festivities we might get up. Fortunately, I do have a bottle of sangria for me, and there's various dog treats around to help make Beka happy. If a mini-dachshund can get happier than having six acres of Florida bush to sniff around in.

Dachshund?  DACHSHUND?!


Huzzah! Someone who actually knows what "dachshund" means!

Anyone who pronounces it like the surname in "Sense and Sensibility" gets a tongue-lashing. And not in a nice way.

Date: 2011/01/23 22:24:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 23 2011,03:54)
I, of course, as a clean living, responsible and well respected member of society do not advocate the consumption of any of these things.

Yes, but have you ever gone on holiday by mistake?

Date: 2011/01/23 22:30:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Wesley R. Elsberry]

Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 23 2011,15:21)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 23 2011,10:53)
Bring back Henry.   :(

I'd prefer magical syphilis over henry the moronic troll.

I think she means the little game-token-sucking vaccum.

Date: 2011/01/23 22:52:26, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 23 2011,20:23)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 23 2011,22:05)
   
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 23 2011,15:12)
ETA: By the way, sex IS a game! reproduction is the final goal, but you do have to practice. And as with boxing, dancing... you need to try multiple sparing partners in order to get full potential...

... or to fully appreciate the right partner when you finally do find them.

Anecdote: I have an acquaintance who was seriously considering sexual therapy because she and her husband both thought she was frigid. Of course they were both virgins when they married. He eventually bailed out, and she later learned there was nothing wrong with her, he was just a lousy lover.

By your standars, ftk, she would have lived the rest of her life in ignorance and misery. I can't believe any True Christian™ would wish that on another (she was married to a Lutheran minister).

So, how many partners do you think is required before you find the perfect lover and make a commitment?  10, 20, 30?  And, can you ever really be sure that you didn't miss out on that perfect fuck?  Maybe she's still out there, but now you're stuck with what you have.  

And, do you think that everyone who has tested the water innumerable times will end up with the perfect sex life?  Do you really?

(snip)


O FFS, ftk. Really? That's how you argue?  Making shit up, adding bizarre -- no, insane -- extrapolations, and throwing in boneheaded hyperbolic questions?

How should I know what makes other people happy? I know I got the right one now, but it took some searching. My step-daughter, OTOH, will probably marry the guy she's with now, her first.  Could be perfectly happy for the rest of her life. Not for me to say. Different strokes. (shrug)

Of course people should look before they leap. But horny teenagers aren't going to listen to me any more than they are to... oh, say, you, for instance.

Date: 2011/01/23 23:01:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Okay, I know it's getting as old as Kwok's "M.I.P.", but Kris really argues like a tenth-grade chess club nerd. I know because I was one.

"I never said that..."

True: Kris makes a point of never really saying anything we can hold him to, except "Scientists R MEEEN! WHAAAH!".

In response to the FACT that the ID that most of the cognitive universe recognizes, is the movement of that name promulgated but the Discovery Institute and their ilk, Kris will say:

"Not that ID! Just because their "ID" is religious doesn't mean "ID" is religious!"

Date: 2011/01/25 09:15:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 25 2011,06:26)
The shorter Kwis:

Louis:  I fink we're gonna get a touch of the Andy Cain in the A.M., know what I mean, mate?

S.Dog:  Old Greek saying, Louis, "rain at night, [greek]fish[/greek] don't bite."  Diogenes.

Doc Bill:  That's what she said!

Kwis:  Weathermen suck!

All:  What?

Kwis:  Are you saying that ALL weathermen are perfect?  Are you saying that ALL weathermen have PhD's?  Are you saying that weather "science" is 100 percent accurate?  Screw you Dale!

Whoa! You're channelling k.e., there, DocBill.
Beautifully surreal. Nice work.

Date: 2011/01/25 09:34:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
About The Author (Krissy)(from Encyclopaedia Britannica):

     
Quote
The person most vulnerable to a persecutory paranoid state is the tense, insecure, suspicious person who has little basic trust in other persons, who has always found it difficult to confide in others, tends to be secretive, usuallly has few close friends and is addicted to solitary rumination.  These characteristics are sometimes hidden behind a facade of superficial sociabiltiy and talkativeness.  Above all, there is a rigidity about such a person's thinking which becomes most obvious when he is under emotional stress.  This may give an impression of certainty and self-assurance, but actually it is based on profound insecurity, upon a need to be dogmatic because of an inability to tolerate suspended judgement.


Cue tu quoque in 3, 2, 1...

btw, Kris, in case you missed it the first million times, yes, there might be a "designer" (shrug). Bring in some evidence and we'll consider it. Meanwhile, the grown-ups have actual work to do, rather than sit around in Foreman's basement with you.

Date: 2011/01/25 09:57:43, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 25 2011,06:59)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 25 2011,06:34)
The feeling I have is more of repulsion and disgust, but that's just because I don't really like seeing blood. But it will never be a feeling of sadness, that's for sure...

This.  With strobe lights.

In 1984 my s.o. at the time miscarried at about 5 months. I was nearby and saw the doctor carry out a pan with something red in it.  There was definitely an emotional factor.  Even though I knew I wasn't ready to be a dad, it was still sad.  

I know it's a different situation than choosing not to carry to term. Sometimes Bad Things happen, people make hard decisions, but I really don't think anyone just shrugs off these things.  Maybe they do.  Maybe one person's heartbreak is another person's equivalent of a stubbed toe.

For my part I'm pissed off at the deliberate attempt at emotional manipulation by people who put up anti-choice billboards.  I can see how one response would be to deny that any such emotion exists.

Date: 2011/01/25 10:02:59, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote
Cue tu quoque in 3, 2, 1...


Quod Erat...

Date: 2011/01/25 10:09:45, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,07:42)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 25 2011,15:34)
[SNIP]

Meanwhile, the grown-ups have actual work to do, rather than sit around in Foreman's basement with you.

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you. It's January, time to bloody do everyone's job reviews again. 4 times a year now. Now I don't like threats of violence, but whoever dreamt up this HR model needs a swift size 12 applied to their gentleman fruit. Possibly with repetitions.

Louis

Foreman's basement. 4:20. Be there. We can all wax... Krissish. Krissical. (snicker). Or something. (giggle).

Date: 2011/01/25 10:39:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 25 2011,08:28)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,10:21)
Pretty soon, MP, you'll have to watch her and ALL the little male cubs that come calling.  

Me, I stuck with male offspring so only have one to worry about (well, that and Catholic priests).

Hey, Kris, just a question.  Are you going to comment on my post at the top of page 7?

That or the little girl cubs.  (Not saying that that'll happen, just admitting that I'm prepared for it.)  Fear not!  Prospective suitors will have to pass muster, for I am a prepared panda.

She's disarmingly cute, she is.  And she's very smart, which means that I'd have my work cut out for me even if I weren't planning on raising her on the classics (Sun Tzu, the Thirty-six Stratagems, Three Kingdoms...).  So Baba-Xiongmao must show he can plan several steps ahead.


The MadPanda, FCD

When I commented on how cute my buddy's 5-year-old daughter was, his response was "Yeah. I'm gonna have to buy a gun."

Date: 2011/01/25 17:01:49, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Jan. 25 2011,11:10)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 24 2011,15:24)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 24 2011,07:10)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 23 2011,22:22)
     
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 23 2011,08:43)
     
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 23 2011,11:36)
Thanks, folks! I'm still in the grip of some virus or other picked up when I visited Vegas earlier this month. It's just me and Beka, the mini-dachshund, here for what festivities we might get up. Fortunately, I do have a bottle of sangria for me, and there's various dog treats around to help make Beka happy. If a mini-dachshund can get happier than having six acres of Florida bush to sniff around in.

Dachshund?  DACHSHUND?!


Huzzah! Someone who actually knows what "dachshund" means!

Anyone who pronounces it like the surname in "Sense and Sensibility" gets a tongue-lashing. And not in a nice way.

Beka is a mini-dachshund from rabbit-hunting lines. The critical morphological limit is chest circumference, which defines the smallest hole she can get down. Beka has a 31cm circumference, which puts her just a centimeter too large to be classed as a Kaninchenteckel. She doesn't seem to have become discouraged by this, and chases rabbits anyway.

My wife and I had a cocker spaniel years ago that spotted a "bunny" and took off after it.  When he finally caught it, the "bunny" turned out to be a jack rabbit that kicked him hard enough to sprain the dog's back and dislocate one elbow.  His enthusiasm for chasing bunnies dropped off noticeably after that.

I always wondered where the terms "car-jacking" and "hijacking" originated.

Bunnies with attitude, clearly.

Obvious reference:
"Jus' look a' the bones!"

Date: 2011/01/26 11:20:21, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 26 2011,08:52)
PaV does physics:
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I think of gravity in terms of entropy, and, of course, entropy, which deals with degrees of freedom and such, is related to QM. Over the last year, I believe it is Linde who has seen entropic gravity as a means of reconciling QM and GR. So I follow it along those lines.

Now, personally, I think an important element is missing, one, which, if true, and properly understood, would form the foundation of linking entropy to QM and to GR. Again, these are just personal fancies.

However, I came to the conclusion in 2003 that entropy was the opposite of gravity, and that the early inflationary period of the universe and dark energy would both be related to this entropic force. In 2010 a series of papers came out that gave plausible mathematical arguments for all of this. Nothing has come out recently; so I’m thinking a whole lot of stuff is brewing. I’m not a physicist, so I have to wait for the physicists to do their mental gymnastics. But it is fun to muse and to watch what will happen next.

As a hint to the missing element, I believe that space experiences—perpetually—a double expansion, both at the speed of light. SR and GR remain unaffected when seen in this light; and, QM is, as it is now, a coupling of “matter” to the second expansion. However, the second expansion eliminates (as best I can see) some of the fundamental problems QFT has to deal with, viz., renormalization.

How titillating is this?!


I think he should publish it in BIO-COMPLEXITY.

Ha!

Okay, who else remembers Professor Irwin Corey? :-)

Date: 2011/01/26 14:44:47, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 26 2011,11:27)
Careful FTK, Apocalyptica is a (not so typical but still) metal band.

The music of teh Devil!!!

Besides that, I hope you enjoy them, I saw them twice in concert, and it's incredible how much energy they deliver on stage with classical instruments.

And I agree that dheddle should post his son's videos here for all to enjoy...

I'd love to see Peer Gynt mounted to suit their version of "In The Hall Of The Mountain King".

Date: 2011/01/26 14:50:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,09:55)
Why do you care if they build a creation museum? If few to no people were interested in what's in the creation museum, it wouldn't stay open for long. You must think that enough people will be interested to keep it open. What does that tell you?

Let me give you a hint: what is it that someone once said was "born every minute"?

Date: 2011/01/26 18:18:34, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 26 2011,14:55)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 26 2011,16:12)
 
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 26 2011,18:44)
 
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 26 2011,11:50)
   
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 26 2011,11:19)
I don't think it would survive even that level of peer review.

O come on, Heddle. PCID saw it fit to publish William Brookfield, the ID Pleasurian. He proposed replacing the second law of thermodynamics with Murphy's law.

In Search of a Cosmic Super-Law: The Supreme “Second law” of Devolution

Brookfield is at least 34% cooler than any other IDer. We all know this.

True.

But one small thing. You, being a physicist and all, probably have to do some maths and stuff. Tell me. What is 34% of zero?

Louis

Well that's certainly a flaw in my algorithm.

"Waiter! What's this flaw doing in my algorithm?"

Date: 2011/01/28 01:55:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 27 2011,18:16)
   
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 27 2011,12:00)
   
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 27 2011,11:45)
if you are looking callously use the other hand.  or some lotion

Aw, c'mon, now.  Louis doesn't need to use that stuff.  He's married, you know, and...oh...wait...nevermind.

Erm, as you were...

That's what married means.  You sleep together, but you can't get none.
The main reason my main squeeze refuses to even consider marriage; predictable results from her last experiment with that institution.  Bless her horny little heart.

Date: 2011/01/28 15:42:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 28 2011,12:25)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 28 2011,13:14)
 
Quote (ccrobotscc2002 @ Jan. 27 2011,16:47)
now, the next one of you deluded little shits who speaks we're going to CUT OFF YOUR HEAD....

Jesus-Titty-Fucking-CHRIST, you are one boring piece of shit whackadoodle.  Get a new schtick, will you?  How many years have you been fantasizing about cutting off peoples' heads?  And how many actual melons have you harvested?  Right.

*yawn*

Ahem...

JC reportadly lived and worked with 12 "apostles".

I don't recall any Miracles Of The Titty-Fucking, whereby Thomas became Thomasina... but if there were, it would have been awesome, and the right-wing Christian Prudes would be a whole lot happier - and more sane.  Including the wackadoodle with the chopping off heads fixation.


You don't remember the Parable of the Pearl Necklace?

Must be in the apocrypha...

Date: 2011/01/29 16:31:35, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 29 2011,11:29)
This is really cool! A novel resource–service mutualism between bats and pitcher plants. Here is the abstract:

 
Quote
Mutualistic relationships between vertebrates and plants apart from the pollen and seed-dispersal syndromes are rare. At first view, carnivorous pitcher plants of the genus Nepenthes seem to be highly unlikely candidates for mutualistic interactions with animals, as they form dimorphic terrestrial and aerial pitchers that trap arthropods and small vertebrates. Surprisingly, however, the aerial pitchers of Nepenthes rafflesiana variety elongata are poor insect traps, with low amounts of insect-attractive volatile compounds and low amounts of digestive fluid. Here, we show that N. rafflesiana elongata gains an estimated 33.8 per cent of the total foliar nitrogen from the faeces of Hardwicke's woolly bats (Kerivoula hardwickii hardwickii) that exclusively roost in its aerial pitchers. This is the first case in which the faeces-trapping syndrome has been documented in a pitcher plant that attracts bats and only the second case of a mutualistic association between a carnivorous plant and a mammal to date.

Let me beat Henry J to saying that's some batshit crazy stuff.

Date: 2011/01/30 21:29:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Dale_Husband @ Jan. 30 2011,19:21)
All I can say is "Say no to drugs!"

I think in this case saying yes to certain applied psychoactive biochemical additives would improve his condition.

"I spoke with God"?!??!?!

Um, Dennis... you know that's crazy talk, right?

edit slight misquote.

Date: 2011/01/31 08:58:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 31 2011,05:48)
Apparently, yes, he's apparently still mad that James Randi won't give him $1 million dollars, and yes, he was as incoherent then as he is now.

Well, it's not like he's sane enough to actually hold a job or anything.

Hey, Dennis:

http://www.totallyfuzzy.net/ourtube....da.html

Date: 2011/01/31 15:05:08, Link
Author: fnxtr
Even 'ol SD has fallen into the one man/one woman.  It's what works in the end.

Of course it works. For lots of us, now. Sure didn't work for me when I was 21, though.

Date: 2011/01/31 23:30:11, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 31 2011,17:51)
Quote (sledgehammer @ Jan. 31 2011,19:13)
Love and commitment, or just havin' fun to feel good.  Maybe one is "deeper" than the other, but there's good in both, and gender doesn't change that, sayeth I.

ETA: (as long as no one gets hurt permanently)

"Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best."

- Woody Allen

I'm just glad I'm old enough to feel like I'm finally in charge of my gonads instead of vice versa.

Date: 2011/02/01 19:58:57, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 01 2011,15:35)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 01 2011,10:09)
Quote
I produce computer simulations using what is arguably the most sophisticated Finite Element Analysis program


Not to brag or anything, but I produce images using what is arguably the most sophisticated image editing program ever written.

Not to brag or anything, but I once calculated the gravitational force between two objects using one of the most sophisticated equations ever designed.

I can count to a hunderd.

Date: 2011/02/03 00:51:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Feb. 02 2011,10:01)
Ahhhhh, Groundhog Day.  Birthday of my evil, redneck grandfather (now a spry 90 years old) AND my beautiful, dumb-as-a-bag-of-hammers ex-husband.    :angry:

You like 'em big and stupid?

Date: 2011/02/03 01:33:25, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wolfhound @ Feb. 02 2011,23:18)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 03 2011,01:51)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Feb. 02 2011,10:01)
Ahhhhh, Groundhog Day.  Birthday of my evil, redneck grandfather (now a spry 90 years old) AND my beautiful, dumb-as-a-bag-of-hammers ex-husband.    :angry:

You like 'em big and stupid?

Not especially, no.  Current guy is an inch or so taller than me so not so big and about 10 times smarter than me so definitely not stupid.

Ex-husband was me being young and dumb and charmed by a pretty package that I couldn't believe was interested in Plain Jane little 'ol me.

And I remember that song!   :D

Yeah.  Pretty's only good for so long...

Date: 2011/02/03 10:02:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Before this goes any farther: Bob, are you Kris?

Date: 2011/02/03 10:06:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 03 2011,06:10)
 
Quote (Wolfhound @ Feb. 02 2011,12:01)
Ahhhhh, Groundhog Day.  Birthday of my evil, redneck grandfather (now a spry 90 years old) AND my beautiful, dumb-as-a-bag-of-hammers ex-husband.    :angry:

I figured it was something like this*:

 
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Wolfie: It's the same old story. Girl finds boy, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, girl forgets boy, girl remembers boy, boy dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl at The Super Bowl.

Crazy Dave:  Goodyear?

Wolfie: No, the worst.




* Thanks to the Police Squad files of Frank Drebbin.

"I can't write songs about girls anymore,
I have to write songs about women.
No more 'boy meets girl, boy loses girl',
More like 'man tries to understand what the hell went wrong."

--I'm An Adult Now - The Pursuit of Happiness.

edit: misquote

Date: 2011/02/03 10:12:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 02 2011,04:05)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 01 2011,00:30)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 31 2011,17:51)
 
Quote (sledgehammer @ Jan. 31 2011,19:13)
Love and commitment, or just havin' fun to feel good.  Maybe one is "deeper" than the other, but there's good in both, and gender doesn't change that, sayeth I.

ETA: (as long as no one gets hurt permanently)

"Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best."

- Woody Allen

I'm just glad I'm old enough to feel like I'm finally in charge of my gonads instead of vice versa.

"Bernard Ketchum told as about one of Plato's dialogues, in which an old man is asked how it felt not to be excited by sex anymore. The old man replies that it was like being allowed to dismount from a wild horse."

- Rudy Waltz in Deadeye Dick by Kurt Vonnegut

Nah, I just have a tighter hold on the reins now. :-)

Date: 2011/02/03 12:37:07, Link
Author: fnxtr
In case there was ever any doubt that JAD is completely unhinged.

Date: 2011/02/04 08:40:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 03 2011,14:43)
Still waiting for you to answer these:

1- How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum evolved in a population that never had one via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

2- How can we test the premise that fish evolved into land animals via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

3- How can we test the premise that reptiles evolved into mammals via an accumulation of genetic accidents?


Be comprehensive...

GI Joe always resorts to "I'm rubber, you're glue," when backed into a corner.

Date: 2011/02/04 23:14:15, Link
Author: fnxtr
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Quote (Bob @ Feb. 04 2011,09:12)
Any intelligent, coherent comments?

*SPROING!!!!*

Damn. I guess I need the military-grade irony meter.

Date: 2011/02/06 11:58:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 06 2011,09:43)
Gary Moore (Skid Row, Thin Lizzy...) passed way in his sleep this morning, in Spain.

After John Barry, this beginning of 2011 really stinks for music... :(

Mick Karn and Gerry Rafferty also left us this year already.

Date: 2011/02/07 19:46:48, Link
Author: fnxtr
Holy TARD they're thick on the ground today, hey? Byers, GI Joe, Gordo... what a rich Monday this is.

Date: 2011/02/07 22:25:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 07 2011,20:06)
[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/science/careers-in-science-desk-from-successful-scientist-all-the-way-up-to-freelance-science-writ


er/#comment-372022]batshit77 takes Byers to task[/URL]:
 
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Mr. Byers, that is fairly over the top in its demeaning tone towards women, not to mention the fact that you now have no rigorous studies to show women as ‘less intelligent’ in math,,,,

Girls’ and boys’ math performance now equal – 2008
http://berkeley.edu/news/media.....math.shtml

as well, I personally feel, as far as ‘social intelligence’ is concerned, most men aren’t even close to women in sophistication!

Mark Frank [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/science/careers-in-science-desk-from-successful-scientist-all-the-way-up-to-freelance-science-writ


er/#comment-372023]gives credit where it is due[/URL]:
 
Quote
Well said BA77. I think you are nuts, but basically you’re a good sort.

... and yet they never stop to wonder why the nutjobs gravitate toward their camp.

Date: 2011/02/07 23:53:46, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (sledgehammer @ Feb. 07 2011,21:34)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 07 2011,20:25)
     
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 07 2011,20:06)
[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/science/careers-in-science-desk-from-successful-scientist-all-the-way-up-to-freelance-science-writ

er/#comment-372022]batshit77 takes Byers to task[/URL]

What is it about the long URL's that makes them work in preview but utterly fail when submitted or quoted?

ETA I had to edit it after submission to get it to work.

http shortcut button not working??

Date: 2011/02/08 08:42:39, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 08 2011,02:37)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 08 2011,01:46)
Holy TARD they're thick on the ground today, hey? Byers, GI Joe, Gordo... what a rich Monday this is.

Forgive me, but I feel I must question the appropriateness of your use of the word "rich".

;-)

Louis

as in "rich" fertilizer, a "rich" odour, &c...

eta: or as your countrypersons are fond of saying "that's rich!"

Date: 2011/02/08 23:21:14, Link
Author: fnxtr
Heh heh.

The AtBC main page showed a new Bathroom Wall post by Kingwhateversomenumber.

Without looking I knew it was our little hurt-cause-he-wasn't-invited-to-the-party.

God you're boring Dennis.  Do you like this sort of negative attention?  'Cause, y'know, you could still take a stab at being human some day.

edit speling miskate.

Date: 2011/02/09 08:47:01, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 09 2011,05:19)
that, or may i suggest a box of razors and a warm bath.  

k.e.. will be along to administer soothing there theres shortly

Now now, 'Ras. So far all he's done is make a bunch of noise. He can still be led onto the healing path.

btw got big birthday plans?

Date: 2011/02/09 23:57:24, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 09 2011,20:01)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 09 2011,21:17)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 09 2011,18:05)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 09 2011,17:07)
 
Quote
DNA is not a coded language.

Yeah, that's just an analogy. It might or might not help somebody just learning the subject, but doesn't hold up too well when going into technical details.

I'd love see this moron conjugate an ERV.

Maybe he could describe where the punctuation is.

I'm not sure that would be a good idea.  ERV is not a young woman to trifle with.

I know, isn't she the epic bomb?

Insert raunchy conjugation pun here.

Date: 2011/02/10 00:04:31, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 09 2011,17:29)
Blipey's having my baby.

Just sayin'

Louis, you jealous?  Asleep?  Come on, mate, help me out here or we're through (except on a pay for view).

As for me, I was just speechless with bemusement. Very droll, Dr. B.

Date: 2011/02/10 08:40:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 10 2011,03:05)
I wouldn't trust him to sit the right way around on a toilet.

Ha ha ha.
Just had this image of Captain Americlueless humping the toilet tank. Made my day (and it's only 6:40am in my world). Nice, Louis.

Date: 2011/02/10 20:13:44, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 10 2011,15:34)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 10 2011,17:14)
Quote (blipey @ Feb. 10 2011,14:36)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 10 2011,11:47)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 10 2011,16:16)
LOL@Joe
Quote
I would say Dr Minnich's numbers stack up very well when compared to those others in the field of evolutionary biology.

How many of those evolutionary biologists have published papers that support their position? Hint- Not one…
I wonder, could we get a paper copy of each journal article on the subject of evolutionary biology and smack Joe around the head with them one at a time.

Oh I grant that being smacked by one paper is not going to be massive, I'm just thinking of the cumulative effect of being whacked with a reasonably sized library verrrrry slowly might help the numbnuts with his clue blindness.

Louis
Not to mention the amazing work that a good bleeding can accomplish.  Paper cuts should work better in this instance than leeches.
You could try ticks.  If you can get them off the watermelons. ;)

Ticks?

Good idea.  There are a few MILFs I'd like to check for ticks

Ha ha. Brad Paisley fan.

Date: 2011/02/11 19:53:54, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 11 2011,10:43)
we who?

i bet this sad sad cunt doesn't have any friends.  "we" indeed.

may i suggest the permanent solution.

I dunno, judging by that hair, I'd say he's already overdone the permanent solution.

badump. Bump.

Date: 2011/02/13 12:07:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 13 2011,06:49)
uh oh. Don't look now, UDIDiots.

 
Quote
The autosomal-dominant pain disorder primary erythermalgia (OMIM 133020), characterized by severe, episodic burning pain in the extremities in response to warm stimuli or moderate exercise, is caused by gain of function mutations in SCN9A. - 2006 Cox, et al. doi:10.1038/nature05413


I'm busy, so you'll have to get the paper and look up the original reference yourselves. Don't forget to cite me in your published, peer-reviewed papers on DFSCIXYZPDQIDIOTS.

(boneheads)
Yes but, but.. that's not a phenotypic improvement due to gain of function. It's pain, see. Different.
(/boneheads)

Date: 2011/02/13 21:38:29, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 13 2011,17:26)
Actually, in the stuff that passes as literature in the fundamentalist community, I've seen at least a couple of reports of NDEs where the victim claims to have briefly been in hell. These are used to counter the New Age kinds of claims of generic sweetness and light in the hereafter.

There was an explanation either here or on PT a while back about seeing light when you're dying, to the effect that optic nerve responses are wired backwards, i.e., no signal (default) is interpreted as light, and signal means "It's dark!"

Date: 2011/02/14 08:37:51, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 11 2011,12:46)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 10 2011,12:14)
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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

1st year calculus. Night class. Crazy girlfriend. Cadaver for a prof.  Bombsville.

Date: 2011/02/14 18:00:58, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Seversky @ Feb. 13 2011,21:01)
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Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 13 2011,17:26)
Actually, in the stuff that passes as literature in the fundamentalist community, I've seen at least a couple of reports of NDEs where the victim claims to have briefly been in hell. These are used to counter the New Age kinds of claims of generic sweetness and light in the hereafter.

There was an explanation either here or on PT a while back about seeing light when you're dying, to the effect that optic nerve responses are wired backwards, i.e., no signal (default) is interpreted as light, and signal means "It's dark!"

So what they're actually seeing in an NDE is a sort of photographic negative effect?  Instead of traveling along a tunnel towards the light, they're really plunging into a black hole?  Kewl!

Nope. They see light because their eyes have shut off the "It's dark!" signal.

eta Oh. Never mind.

Date: 2011/02/14 18:03:03, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 14 2011,11:38)
My avatar looks uncannily like me...

Mine doesn't. I'm actually 12 feet tall, and blue.

Date: 2011/02/14 18:48:38, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 14 2011,16:22)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 15 2011,00:08)
Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

Oh, yeah, then there was the 3rd Year Music Theory exam:

"Fill in the chords between the given ones, to create an omnibus."

Uh... what? Oh feck.

Date: 2011/02/14 18:49:55, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 14 2011,16:49)
Mine is surreal.

Does have a Magritte-ish bent, doesn't it.

Date: 2011/02/14 23:52:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 14 2011,17:10)
 And it's been said that I'm neither as smart or as good-looking as I think I am.

Very few people are as smart or as good looking as I think I am.

Date: 2011/02/15 08:35:28, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (noncarborundum @ Feb. 14 2011,22:44)
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Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 15 2011,00:08)
Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

Oh, yeah, then there was the 3rd Year Music Theory exam:

"Fill in the chords between the given ones, to create an omnibus."

Uh... what? Oh feck.

To create a what?

It worries me that I don't know this, especially since I majored in music theory.  Granted, that was a long time ago, and maybe things have changed.  The only musical omnibus I remember is the one in the Flanders & Swann song.

I think it was Romantic.

Never heard of it since.

(Cue "That's What I Like About You" jokes in 3, 2, 1...)

Date: 2011/02/15 19:46:22, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 15 2011,12:51)
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Quote (ojustmab @ Feb. 15 2011,14:18)
JUDGMENT DAY


my challenge for sh*t for brains james randi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQxmUp9QsNQ


JUST A GAME!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQxmUp9QsNQ



visit


http://groups.google.com/group....5b5af6#
I don't think that even 3880 processors and 15 terabytes of RAM can decode this...

There's no intelligence in random misfires of synaptic connections at the moment of brain death to decode, discern or interpret

Dennis' brain:
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Date: 2011/02/16 19:15:36, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 16 2011,12:58)
I like

K L A A T U

B A R A D A

N I K T O

Which translates to "Gort, would you terribly mind retrieving klaatu's corpse and placing it on the resurrection table?" Change just one letter and Gort either uses his ray to prepare a delicious creme brulee or builds the fastest soap box derby racer ever seen in Akron.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

potd. :-)

Date: 2011/02/17 08:43:52, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 17 2011,05:05)
It's comparisons like this what cause unrest.


But has she got a license?

   
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 17 2011,05:05)
(snip) KJR is a tireless worker for all that can be considered "good", Denyse O'Leary practically embodies all that is holding the human species back from actually doing useful and "good" things. YUCK.


You think that's bad. I have to live in the same country.

I think, like Beck and Coulter, morphodyke will say anything to get attention. The difference between her and them, though, is that they get some. Attention, that is.*  Dreary is read by herself and a few here who go there for the laffs. Sad, really.

*The very though of her(?) "getting some" has caused my mind to become unquiet.

Date: 2011/02/18 08:35:12, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 18 2011,06:13)
 
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This combination of properties gives WIMPs many of the properties of neutrinos, save for being far more massive and therefore slower.

The slowest and densest of particles: the moron.

Date: 2011/02/18 22:56:37, Link
Author: fnxtr
(Swanning in fashionably late)

Way to not die yet, Bob!  :-)

eta these bidet treds are way more fun that the "watchin'-fish-in-a-barrel-as-they-backpedal" ones. Just sayin'.

Date: 2011/02/19 12:04:30, Link
Author: fnxtr
Quote (Badger3k @ Feb. 18 2011,20:48)
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