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| Date: 2008/06/13 10:37:02, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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First time posting here, please be gentle... I love reading DrDr on UD. This is one of his great "we are now advancing to the rear" messages. Having lost in actual science, in the courtrooms and in the legislatures, the Kulturkampf will be taken to the most important battleground, Vacation Bible School. Bill's intellectual efforts have been narrowing down and ageing down for a while. So one prong of a uni-pronged approach is avoiding all possible interactions with scientifically trained/unsaved adults, and shore up the funding base. The next stop is Bill teaming up with Jack Chick. I really can't wait. |
| Date: 2008/07/01 13:43:57, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Isn't Beckwith's endorsement just as left handed as possible?
I think Dr. Dr. wanted something a little more positive and Frank offered to meet in the Baylor cafeteria to discuss it... Instead he got
with an erotic subtext of bananas and condoms meeting resistance in the panties of a cerebral professor. Just the thing to sell copies to the Josh McDowell crowd. |
| Date: 2008/07/01 15:16:27, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Dr. Dr. hasn't fooled the Library of Congress
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| Date: 2008/07/02 14:16:18, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I actually like Sean's version of Paley's argument. For "John Loves Mary" the answer is obvious. But throw in a few rounds of duplication, shuffling and a mutation or two so that you get "esohybJoL fJoL nseohyvan LoanseohesohyM rJr Myvam LoaM rJr M". Is that gripping romance or what? I think most people would answer - what. It's just a little demonstration of how easily our common sense intuitions (which are being appealed to here) can be confused. Then encode the message in piles of sand instead of strokes with a stick, and... |
| Date: 2008/07/09 15:42:34, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I just read John Kwok's pseudo-review of DDrr.. Dembski's latest. I'm sorry, the man is easily as irritating in his style as many a tardmeister and is in the running for the David Mabus You Owe Me award for his insistence on a Leica M7. My 2c... |
| Date: 2008/07/09 16:00:05, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Actually, as Michael Milken proved in junk bonds and as stock index funds show, just buy them all. No one can consistently value and time trades in individual stocks better than the market. (And if Templeton had $10,000 in 1934, it's just an example of the rich getting richer.) Unfortunately, it's not a strategy you can apply to Pascal's Wager, too many jealous gods out there... But in the marketplace of ideas, the investing man would put some money on Paley in 1802, and then done the same with Darwin in 1859 and then just let the investments grow! No need to reinvest in Paley now when the initial investment has yet to pay dividends. |
| Date: 2008/07/11 10:38:40, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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You forgot the [kwok] [/kwok] tags around "I haven't read a word of that exchange." |
| Date: 2008/07/11 15:26:56, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Before I was banned over at UD, he responded to one of my questions by saying he believed in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. |
| Date: 2008/07/12 23:00:03, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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With respect to Dr. GH's interest in a test case, I think that Mr. Woods' actions are already that case. He's admitted that he went to Mass, took the wafer after it was consecrated, and left with it. If the Catholic diocese wanted to engage in legal action, that was the opportunity. No need to wait for PZ's squidy ninjas to drop from the rafters. In asking to "score" a wafer, all PZ was asking for was that someone repeat Mr Woods' actions. |
| Date: 2008/07/13 14:56:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Can we invite DDrr.. Dembski, Dave and Denise to somekind of festschrift for the 1000th page of this thread? If it wasn't for them and their quick trigger finger on the banninator, their tolerance of cognitive dissonance, and atrociously bad writing, this thread would not exist, and the world would be a much less amusing place. Just putting the idea out there... |
| Date: 2008/07/14 12:12:45, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
What is wrong with this picture? 1- Jesus is 50 feet tall 2- Jesus is hitching for ride when He already has one. 3- Jesus is riding side saddle. 4- To accurately portray theistic evolution, the dinosaurs should be riding Jesus. |
| Date: 2008/07/14 16:55:49, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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How nice that Denyse should take this moment to look back on seven (7!!1!) years of ID progress with these fond memories: - Covering the acceptance of the Nobel Prize by DDrr.. William Dembski. - Coverage of the death of Darwinism at the time predicted by the good DDrr.. oh, sorry, never mind. But equally impressive: - ID now means exactly what we say it means. Most of the time. In Google hits. - Helping create the NCSE. - ID has successfuly captured the mindshare of legacy media as a shorthand for crank. Accomplishments, in sum, that no Nobel Prize can equal. |
| Date: 2008/07/16 12:51:04, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
What Denyse has in mind when she says Big Bazooms I shudder to imagine.Science as wish fulfillment perhaps? |
| Date: 2008/07/22 14:03:31, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I saw a hooded crow on Castle Hill in Budapest about two weeks ago. Given that King Matthias was the Raven King, I thought it highly appropriate. Bird was too smart for me to catch a picture of, almost made me drop my camera as I tried to follow it. |
| Date: 2008/07/23 14:13:44, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I know it is late for a present, but I would like to give the Dr. who has two of everything a date with Janie and Kate. Boy, would DaveScot be jealous! I think there is room for a threesome inside that sweater... |
| Date: 2008/07/23 16:12:53, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
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Sorry for continuing to hijack this thread, but the ability of Christians to misunderstand Judaism to justify their reading of their own texts always bugs the crap out of me - speaking as an ex-fundamentalist Christian and convert to Orthodox Judaism. DHeddle - where in the Gospels do you see Jesus break any law? As you say, his positions (rhetorical, not legal) were much stricter than almost any other Jewish group, including Essenes. What happened to "not one jot or tittle (yod or seraph) of this Law will pass away"? Christian anti-nomianism starts with Paul, not Jesus. If you want to talk about executing children for disobeying their parents, please do it in the context of the religious and legal tradition that knows WTF is being talked about. |
| Date: 2008/07/23 16:47:23, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
paraphrasing (so sue me) RG - A liar like you has to make a poor mother. FtK - The Darwin Police want to take my kids away because I won't believe their relgion! How long does it normally take before someone calls FtK on this blatant misdirection? |
| Date: 2008/07/23 18:16:18, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
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Sorry to do this to you, but could you give references? My own NT memory is rusty, so while I remember pasages in which folk complain to Jesus about what other people (his disciples) were doing (eating food they picked) as Sabbath breaking, I don't recall a specific instance where it was Jesus doing the violation. Likewise, there is no way Jesus on his own can demand someone be put to death on their reputation alone, nor is there quite the same idea of blasphemy in Judaism. On adultery, Jesus seems to be firmly in the camp of Rabbi Akiba, who famously demanded testimony so exacting that no one could ever be convicted of adultery under his rules. But then we come to the point that the law related to adultery is certainly part of the criminal code of Judaism, a code not defunct in 70 CE. Jewish communities usually controlled their own civil and criminal courts in Europe (until Napoleon) and under Islam. This distinction that there is a law that convicts us of sin, and then there is this other humdrum law is completely false. The Mosaic/Rabbinic code is seamless in that regard. All civil, criminal, and religous violations could create "sin". Your distinction would have been unfathomable to Jesus or anyone listening to his sermon. Paul can say what he wants, that isn't the point. "Jot and tittle" refers to the smallest letter and hair-fine decorations of manuscript text of a Torah scroll. An interpretation that those words don't have their clear meaning must be recognized as exactly that, a very strained sense in which to take his language. |
| Date: 2008/07/23 22:12:22, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
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OK, I skimmed that thread through quickly. wow, just wow. It's amazing that Joy was the person who came closest to answering you with the Jewish answer (to mangle a Princess Bride quote) "that verse, you keep using it, but I don't it means what you think it means." Of course the question is just as interesting as a hypothetical. As you perhaps tried to prod people into realizing, we have to fight a nasty God. The high point of the Bible is Abraham arguing God down from destroying Sodom and Gommorah. |
| Date: 2008/07/24 16:59:49, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Now Dennis is an expert on university politics as well as cruelty to language. I vaguely recall that Lilley's tenure denials were something of a reaction to higher levels of tenure acceptances in prior years, a reversion to the mean. |
| Date: 2008/07/24 17:17:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I thought that was "Her O is real", a claim that his gf never fakes it. |
| Date: 2008/07/25 12:34:43, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Origin of the nucleus and Ran-dependent transport to safeguard ribosome biogenesis in a chimeric cell
Interesting that according to this, we acquired a nucleus in response to the endosymbiosis with mitochondria. Where does that put plants? |
| Date: 2008/07/25 13:56:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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Dennis also recently linked to a Times Higher Ed review of Steve Fuller's new book, a review written by a theologian. Tard on a hill cannot be hidden. It's not clear in the review who thinks
Somewhat telling, though, that Fuller brought this review to the attention of Dennis. "Buy my book!" |
| Date: 2008/07/25 17:20:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
As Mozart says in Amadeus, when you read words like this, what can you say but... Fuller! (Though Fodor and Berlinski do come to mind...) |
| Date: 2008/07/27 22:11:57, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It would be even lovelier if the number was close to 1000. Instead, it seems to be closer to 154. Additional bonus tard for free: PaV thinks the rate of uptake of new genes is constant at the fly's rate. That might work in baraminology, where a fly has always been a fly. So PaV has shown that according to baraminology, it has been 1.75 billion years since Noah's Ark and the Great Flood. Of course, if flies spent most of their developmental history as single celled creatures with faster changes to their genomes, then the rate isn't constant and PaV's calculation fails. ID prediction: the first comments to this post will hail the calulation as a breakthrough, there will be a brief period of riducule by DS which will not be preserved by the fossil record, and subsequent comments will ignore it in favor of analogies to Expelled. |
| Date: 2008/07/27 22:29:09, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I'm banned too! At the height of my UD street cred, Sal actually put my name in the headline of one of his posts on why YECs don't always like ID. But I fell from grace swiftly after that, and finally got the boot from DS for these comments. |
| Date: 2008/07/28 10:45:51, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I think they still let Allen Macneill post. |
| Date: 2008/07/28 10:58:12, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I'm finishing Sean Carroll's Making of the Fittest, and starting The Good Soldier Svejk, by Jaroslav Hasek (tr. by Cecil Parrott), and The Wild Trees, by Richad Preston. |
| Date: 2008/07/28 13:48:28, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nah, it's just that the Dr.++ is twitchy about getting his cafeteria access back. He doesn't want anyone spoiling his chances of re-establishing the Polanyi Center at the table next to the checkout line. |
| Date: 2008/07/28 17:06:30, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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My wife (who is Japanese) brought home a DVD the other day of a Japanese game show called "The Most Useful School in the World". It's a mildly educational show that is packaged inside a quiz show format that could only be dreamed up, and survive, in Japan. In this episode, one segment was on iguanas of the Galapagos islands. The show introduced as the guest "expert" a Japanese doctor who had become a nature photographer. Interestingly, they also showed Charles Darwin's picture during the segment intro and talked about evolution. Imagine a game show trying that in the US? The doctor showed pictures of the land iguanas eating prickly pear cactus, and showed that in areas with abundant iguanas, the prickly pear grew on a short pedestal base putting fleshy parts out of reach of the iguanas, while in areas without a lot of iguanas, it grew directly on the ground. This was given as an example of evolution. The next film showed some of the adaptations of the sea iguanas, and asked the contestants to guess which feature had been modified the most in going to sea. The correct answer (according to the show) was that the sea iguana's claws were longer and sharper, the better to hold them against strong currents under water. (They showed great footage of the iguanas feeding underwater, gnawing seaweed off of rocks.) Now the weird part was that they claimed that recent weather changes that had increased the foliage on the islands had given rise to the opportunity for some form of hybridization between land and sea iguanas. The result was a land iguana with claws strong enough to climb the pedestal of a prickly pear, and thereby acquire more resources. Since this wasn't a peer reviewed game show, I was leery of accepting this story at face value, but I am trying to run down some facts. I thought I'd bring it to your attention as an example of how evolution fares in the pop culture of other countries, and also a cool example of real time evolution (if true). If I can find the show on YouTube or similar Japanese site, I will send a link. |
| Date: 2008/07/28 17:13:37, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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GilDigan is amazed that Fox News would publish OOL "nonsense". Heck, Fox has a whole Evolution and Paleontology site! Three cheers for our fact based network! ps - how do I link directly to a UD comment, like all the cool kids? |
| Date: 2008/07/29 12:12:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
By never defining the term Holy Scripture, it almost makes you forget what a debate there was over deciding what was scripture and what wasn't. :p |
| Date: 2008/07/29 13:03:18, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
No, my point was that it's easy to think about "Holy Scripture" as a unified whole when looking at the result of the historical process, without acknowledging that a historical process of selection and human controversy was involved. Rabbi Akiba had to pull out all the stops to get Ecclesiastes and Song of Songs included. The Chicago Statement is ahistorical. It lacks an axiomatic definition of the texts included, and why. Does it mean the Catholic version of Esther or the Jewish one? Does it include the Gospel of Thomas? Why or why not? |
| Date: 2008/07/29 17:00:29, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Why conceal evidence that miracles DO occur? |
| Date: 2008/07/30 09:46:48, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I see a strong analogy to living in a Communist country. People I know who grew up in FSU and China knew the government was lying to them 100% of the time and were deeply cynical (but at the same time open to a lot of woo from other sources). A friend from CZ said she spent her 16th year in terrible anxiety that the US was about to launch a nuclear attack on her country because the government news said so every night. (This during the Reagan era tiff about placing missiles in Germany.) Coccooning doesn't work. |
| Date: 2008/07/31 13:27:51, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Is being imaginary a disability? |
| Date: 2008/08/01 10:48:50, Link | ||||||||
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BA77, aka "Bond, James Bond" on PT for a while, in love with Genetic Entropy and long quotes - a sock puppet? If so the puppeteer is under really deep cover. OTOH, who is CEC09 and will he survive one thread without being banned? |
| Date: 2008/08/04 11:02:02, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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In GilDigan's recent OP, the quotes DDrr.. Dembski quoting Paul Davies using the term specified complexity. Is anyone up for reviewing the upcoming Quantum Aspects of Life? Davies has a lead chapter. Dembski's chapter on Quantum Design Inference seems to have been left out. Why was Suzan Mazur stalking the Altenberg 16 when she could have been following this group? |
| Date: 2008/08/06 16:28:23, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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UD stretches the envelope with podcast of DDrr.. Dembski's oh-so-lawyerly analysis of Lilley's firing from Baylor. Was ID involved? Was Leery O'Dennis right or wrong? As Bill states at the beginning of the piece, it's easier to ask for a "sense of the majority" than to actually go to the trouble of pinning someone down to a position. Sounds like ID was definitely not as important as the Baylor logo, a telling comparison for a movement about to bury Darwinism. |
| Date: 2008/08/07 11:26:08, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
"bone to babe" is going to set off the mental nanny filter of soooo many UDers it would be dangerous. I'm willing to bet that not enough bone to babe is the problem of a large segment of the posters there. |
| Date: 2008/08/08 16:32:32, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Intersting listening on that video. Bill calls himself an OEC, clearer than I've heard before... The eye is too complex to find design! ... Eyes don't develop in isolation, embryology yada yada just so story...(re macro/micro) Extrapolation is not adequately supported... Host: ...Come let us reason together, not park our brains... |
| Date: 2008/08/14 09:18:11, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yeah, Dave could beta male to Jeff Schloss! Or Wes Elsberry! If only ASA would give him bannination duties on their blog, he'd switch in a minute. |
| Date: 2008/08/18 12:41:59, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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John Bartlettdeclaimed a badly argued effort, and I left him this comment on his personal blog. (It is interesting to see that Mr. Bartlett has some nice things to say about Avida every once in a while. He hasn't read the memo.) Hi JB, I looked at the materials in all three of the linked resources. I think the idea of looking at the sources of variability is interesting. I don't think you've shown that some piece of biology, such as the genetic code, or biological feedback loops, actually are universal computers (Turing machines). You've also claimed that some landscape is hard to traverse via one step changes but it is not at all clear what that landscape is. A fitness landscape assumes an optimization criteria - a purpose beyond the immediate purpose of survival. Since all evolution is about is immediate survival, the "fitness landscape" changes every generation. You make a claim that this landscape is full of steep canyons and many isolated areas of function, but you haven't proved this, you've assumed it. You also seem to have divided sources of variation into mutation and "higher order" sources, some of which are materialistic. Do you have a list of these different higher order sources? How would your work discern the difference between a materialistic higher order source and a direct intervention by an intelligent agent that was for a purpose? |
| Date: 2008/08/20 12:29:24, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
DS drops in to reinforce Mike's point. |
| Date: 2008/08/20 13:42:12, Link | ||||||
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If Wesley shaved his ass and walked backwards, would he look like Denyse? |
| Date: 2008/08/20 15:13:55, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Woot! Maya, you have led me astray, and for the first time my tender post has been pressed against the hard cold porcelain of the Bathroom Wall. Was it good for you too? |
| Date: 2008/08/27 14:35:43, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
If you reverse the polarity of your nanny filter does tard run backwards? |
| Date: 2008/08/29 09:48:28, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
GPuccio's Spider Teleology
Though perhaps "love of variation" is trying to express an idea that sexual selection in spiders leads to a love of fashionable change. This could fit into a YEC motivated view of hyperactive evolution after the Flood. But why am I doing their work for them? |
| Date: 2008/08/29 11:01:16, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Dang, now everyone knows my password! |
| Date: 2008/08/29 11:05:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Heddle was considering the case of x = Bill Buckner, which introduces a baseball sized probability distortion field into the calculations. |
| Date: 2008/08/29 11:25:44, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I get the impression that even DDrr.. Dembski's MESA program was more powerful than he bargained for, so he dropped it when it didn't give confirmatory answers. All science so far! |
| Date: 2008/08/29 11:57:59, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Yeah, I learned way too much about termite guts reading Margulis' Symbiosis in Cell Evolution but the tubulin hypothesis never caught on the way mitochodria and chloroplasts did. Now if flagella had their own DNA... |
| Date: 2008/09/03 12:03:39, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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John Bartlett ( "johnnyb" on UD) and I went back and forth a few times on his own blog after his recent post on UD. As part of that conversation, I found this paper by Langdon on the Halting problem. The basic result is that random programs don't halt, as the program length grows larger. This upends a favorite creationist canard about computer programming, that programs are finely tuned, one error will stop them, yada yada yada. These are teleolgical arguments. It is hard to imagine a universe in which Windows ME could either evolve or survive, and so much the better! BTW, Bartlett showed himself to be relatively Avida-friendly, so his posting rights under the big |
| Date: 2008/09/05 09:25:49, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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WESM, David Winston Smith is doubleplusfair. Every |
| Date: 2008/09/05 13:00:05, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Glad to see Charlie's solved the Halting Problem. Get that Fields Medal ready. |
| Date: 2008/09/05 14:54:48, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Gil Dodgen of UD fame gives an amazingly positive Amazon review to Blondie24, back in 2001. Maybe he wasn't saved back then. |
| Date: 2008/09/05 17:14:57, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Artificial Chemistries - an old review, but might help Daniel if he wants to pursue the relevance of artificial models to the real world. |
| Date: 2008/09/08 10:21:15, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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A consensus on the evolution of the genetic code from 2004. Nice job reminding everyone why Urey-Miller experiments are very relevant and useful And the ID prediction is ... |
| Date: 2008/09/11 09:08:16, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Scooter's curiosity about peer-review doesn't extend to this fish wrap. Sheldon seems to think Von Neumann flitted over to Bletchley Park from Los Alamos to help out Alan Turing. It's downhill from there. |
| Date: 2008/09/11 09:48:41, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I thought half the language was French already. (Obviously not necessary for previous sentence.) |
| Date: 2008/09/11 22:55:21, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Hi Steve, Charlie's definition of algorithm (which I was criticising via crushing satire) equaled finite program, as does the Wikipedia "an algorithm is a sequence of finite instructions". It's exactly that point which makes the claim in his definition so funny that algorithms are known to halt (or not). If there is another rigorous definition of algorithm that includes inifinite sequences, I'm unaware of it. In passing I'll mention WB Langdon's paper I cited on the Sciency thread a couple days ago in which he shows that on a statistical basis, the answer to the Halting Problem is No, as algorithms get longer and longer. Cheers, David |
| Date: 2008/09/11 23:50:23, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
That is just so much handwaving BS. The genome (a string of DNA) of any creature is not an automaton. You could argue that a ribosome is an automaton. DNA is a sequence of instructions, but the instructions set in not "Turing complete" because there is no looping construct. There is no way to tell the ribosome to go back thirty codons or forward five. The ribosomal automaton reading the DNA sequence cannot make any other biochemical machine. It can make linear strings of 20 amino acids. Many drugs are not proteins. Sugars and fats are not proteins. All biochemistry does not equal protein chemistry. Further, these amino acids are not infinite in variety. They are 20 out of many many more. We can create biochemical machines that use amino acids that no genome codes for, no tRNA transcribes. The analogy of computers to biology is often overstated. You have done so. |
| Date: 2008/09/12 12:52:58, Link | ||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||
Because I've read descriptions of the genetic machinery of the cell. The genome is stored information, not the machine that reads the information.
Because we know that the product of the ribosome is a linear string of amino acids, and we know that there are other biochemical objects that are not linear strings of amino acids.
Because we've counted the amino acids used in protein synthesis, there are 20. We know others, but protein chemistry only uses 20. There are only 64 slots in the code table of the gemone, some amino acids are specified more than once.
No analogy is perfect. The instructon set of the genome is not Turing complete.
Yup, that article is full of it. Full of speculation. But note that no genome has a "computational gene", this is a human invention (yet to be proved) that leverages existing natural functions, but adds things that have never existed in a natural genome. |
| Date: 2008/09/12 13:29:10, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| The best thing about the Sheldon paper, IMHO, was "contra Berlinski". Finally, a woo merchant not willing to go along to get along with another woo merchant. The camel's nose of reality slips into the Big Tent. |
| Date: 2008/09/12 13:36:26, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
What she does in the privacy of her own home is her business. Dolly in on Hitachi Magic Wand. |
| Date: 2008/09/15 15:24:52, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
UR DOIN IT RONG
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| Date: 2008/09/26 18:29:43, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Plantinga
No, reliable cognitive faculties have a large survival value. After 3.x billion years of evolution, there are still places where we have discovered that our cognitive faculties can be wrong (optical illusions, aspartame, Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction), but in general we are far beyond "naive hope". |
| Date: 2008/09/28 10:59:53, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Hey Louis, I was actually in London for a few days this past week, but too jet lagged for anything interesting. However, if I can avoid that condition in the future, I'd like to meet a fellow AtBC denizen in person for once and get an introduction to the gutters of your fair city. Anyone visiting NYC, feel free to contact me! |
| Date: 2008/09/29 12:23:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Paul Nelson finds the most relevant issue in the Explore Evolution review, a flub of reflexin for relaxin. Paul, looking at Schwabe's papers on relaxin, how do you deal with that 500 million year figure in this one of Schwabe's publications??? |
| Date: 2008/09/29 12:24:30, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Yes!!! Post 69 appears on page 69!!! I win the Intertubes!!!11! |
| Date: 2008/09/30 13:06:32, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| BTW, for Paul Nelson and all your other YEC friends, here's a special Happy New Year shout out! The world is officially 5769 years old today! W00T!!!! |
| Date: 2008/10/01 10:18:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
This thread discusses lambda, and attributes the four way classification of CA to Wolfram, which I think is correct. Prior to bannination, I made similar suggestions directly to the good DDrr.. on UD. If he wanted to show "What Evolution Can't Do", he should use GA to find the edge of evolution. However, MESA was apparently the local maxima of his research, and he can't weasel his way out of it. |
| Date: 2008/10/01 15:52:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I think Denyse is using a carpet bombing technique in an attempt to push Scooter's politicization of UD off the front page. You go girl! Stand up for having an IQ north of 54' 40"! Who cares if Dave thinks Obama has cooties! The question is - did cooties evolve, or were they front loaded into Obama's genome? It's a pity that since McCain did not choose DDrr.. Dembski as his running mate, UD has been left to the beta male. |
| Date: 2008/10/01 16:34:15, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Common design isn't very 'sciency' if it can't make predictions. On the basis of 1 - swims in the water 2 - has scales what is the common design prediction for direction of tail movement, up/down or side/side? From a design perspective, skin covering and tail motion are independent choices a designer could make. That is not true from a descent perspective. (Yes, this is the same point as previously made about molecules and drug discovery, just using a big easy example.) So common descent is important because it allows us to make predictions about all forms of life, predictions which common design would not allow us to make. |
| Date: 2008/10/01 17:48:20, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
A designer of swimming things could use several different skin coverings (scales, hair, feathers, slime), as well as several different tail motions (up/down, side/side, corkscrew). We know these choices exist because we see them in nature. But as far as we can tell, there is no forcing reason that a choice of scales for a skin covering necessitates a particular choice of tail motion. The designer, could, in theory, make a swimming feathered creature that thrashed its tail around in a corkscrew fashion to move itself through the water. Common descent, however, does force certain choices to go together. Scales goes with side/side not because of functional necessity, but because of historical necessity. So assuming descent allows us to make predictions that design does not allow us to make. This makes descent a more powerful theory, and therefore a more preferable theory, than design. |
| Date: 2008/10/01 21:58:08, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
That's interesting. I thought your reaction might have been that you were uncertain what I meant by "independent". Of the two sentences, which is completely ridiculous? The designer (space alien or FSM or ...) is usually accorded freedom to build creatures any way that is desired, and the fact that two species look similar (at the macroscopic or molecular level) is taken as a sign of using common design elements. For example, "apes and ostriches are both upright bipeds, their similarity is based on design." Perhaps you feel the designer is less than all-powerful? The second sentence is just a restatement of the definition of common descent. Historical contingency has forced certain characters together, their fates are now intertwined. I think you share the same definition of common descent as everyone else on this discussion thread. Perhaps it's the juxtapositon of the two sentences? The work of an all powerful designer is simply less predictable than the work of a limited, natural process. The Rev Paley and I take a walk on the beach. I reach down and pick up a fish scale from the sand. The Reverend points out to me how the scale is so fit for its purpose, helping to ease the fish through the water while simultaneously protecting it, obviously designed. I ask the Rev Paley, on the basis of this evidence, which direction did the fish's tail move? What is his answer? |
| Date: 2008/10/01 22:11:43, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
You're right, I was stuck on that 19th Century jingoist phrase, 54' 40" or Fight! I think Bush was ready to revive that chant, but tidying up Iraq took a bit longer than anticipated. Thanks for the catch! |
| Date: 2008/10/03 11:20:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
The Sherman paper just reappeared in a quote mine comment on this PT thread. #Already sent to the Bathroom Wall, apparently! What was interesting to me was that the version of the paper linked to was hosted on a Jewish revival web site. Not sure what the connection is... its all about science, right? |
| Date: 2008/10/05 10:27:31, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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A 'Great' Debate? I wonder why DDrr.. Dembski was unavailable to fill the pro-ID, theist friendly position? Berlinski is a theist? Monton's relevant work is all "in preparation", very conveniently unavailable for criticism. Design arguments are 'based on a false physics' but should be taught in the public schools?? In the same class as astrology, perhaps? Anybody going? |
| Date: 2008/10/06 12:07:38, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Ha, this is just FtK trying to use one of her lifelines to answer questions hanging for her on the thread dedicated to her bloviation. She set "molecule to man" and "common descent vs. common design" as her two show stoppers. Descent vs. design got stomped pretty fast. Of course, if Darwin had fallen off the Beagle as it rounded Ushant, Alfred Russell Wallace would be the subject of the same criticisms that Darwin suffers today. The ideas were obvious as the evidence was collected and collated, distributed and discussed. An "I am Spartacus!" moment in science. |
| Date: 2008/10/07 10:31:09, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| So how come FtK doesn't post her "molecule to man" questions over here? She could get answers and Louis-porn at the same time... |
| Date: 2008/10/08 14:20:12, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Just a guess, but in the process of establishing the evidence for variability in decay rates, I'm pretty sure that you'd have to make some assumptions about the rest of physics that would easily undercut the YEC position. You can't accept the result without accepting those assumptions as well. |
| Date: 2008/10/10 11:13:50, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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OK, here's a silly question. How expensive is it to do a Miller-Urey experiment? Is it now in the range of high school science fair project? (Not Bronx High School of Science or Intel/Westinghouse Science Talent Search variety) |
| Date: 2008/10/12 07:47:58, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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ok, I thought the analysis would be the expensive part! As you say, this is for the original experiment. Are there versions of the experiment that would be cheaper to do, yet be as interesting in the results? I was very interested in the synthesis of organics in a frozen ice, referenced in an article a few posts upthread. Can the same concentration effects be obtained through the crystallization of (for instance) salt instead of ice? |
| Date: 2008/10/13 14:46:53, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Just picked up The Illustrated Origin of Species, by C. Darwin. It's wonderful! Also, the new Annotated Dracula! |
| Date: 2008/10/13 15:25:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Scooter, leading the race to the bottom, unloads this tard wad
In one sentence the Supreme Court has a sworn oath to uphold, in the next they vote their political preference. How reminiscent is this of Dave's prediction of Judge Jones, Bush appointed good ol boy? When I am on my death bed, please ask DaveScot to predict my demise. Nothing will speed my recovery faster than a word from the anti-prophet. |
| Date: 2008/10/13 22:32:31, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I dropped a few comments in, including one for you! The New York Times had a headline on an article many years ago, "In the Land of Jesus, His Language Is Dying Out". The article was about Aramaic and how it's use was persecuted by the Syrian government. The rabbi I was studying with at the time thought the headline was quite amusing. He said that if the Times reporter was afraid Aramaic was dying as a spoken language,he could put him in contact with 10,000 guys in Brooklyn who spoke it every day. Since Aramaic is the language of the Talmud, he was being conservative in his estimate! |
| Date: 2008/10/14 10:19:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Where do those languages appear in Genesis, other than place names? I know that I don't speak the same language as Chaucer, and barely the same language as Shakespeare. While the vocabulary of modern Hebrew is much larger than what appears in the Bible, I'm not sure what you think has changed so much about Hebrew that my rabbi is dreaming. Orthography? Agreed. Phonology? Grammar? Shoresh and binyan? The discrepancies of biblical and "modern" Hebrew are the subject of thousands of years of minute study. I'd guess most orthodox rabbis are very aware of where there is evidence of a change in the language. But perhaps you are arguing that even the text of the Bible does not capture the language of 3-4,000 years ago, but dates from a later era. David and Moses are figments of the imagination? |
| Date: 2008/10/14 11:16:54, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Only if that is what Dr Hurd meant! |
| Date: 2008/10/14 15:36:46, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Denyse gets subversive with an artificial evolution video. She's not quite courageous enough to pull the trigger and say 1 - complexity, even within the understanding of human ingenuity, can be produced by an unthinking process 2 - many small and distributed increments of an unthinking process can lead to complexity. Wow, Denyse, if evolution can do that with walking, imagine what it can do with the rest of the brain! To her credit, she does not try to play the "design smuggled in" card. GilD to lay it down in 3... 2... 1... |
| Date: 2008/10/14 16:31:53, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Sorry, I don't need to be convinced the bible isn't an accurate record and also contains material adopted from other cultures. We were discussing the text of Genesis, what languages it was written in, and why those languages fit into the category
I disagree with you that the phonology of biblical Hebrew is so different as to be problematic in the interpretation of Genesis, which is what I understand you to be saying. Are you arguing that there is a word which has been conflated with 'yom' but didn't mean 'day'? Which was divided into 'erev' and 'boker', which did not mean 'evening' and 'morning', but are words conflated over time with those common Hebrew words? AiG's argument is not turning on whether the fourth river out of Eden is pronounced Prat, Frat, Porat, Perat, Fruit, or Poirot. People who take the bible literally happily admit this is a word from another language, and that the text is only approximating its original sound value. But 'yom' isn't. Arguing that yom was originally pronounced iyahm doesn't touch the issue at hand. "Languages no one living has ever heard spoken" is a fine rhetorical flourish, but not very useful as an argument. |
| Date: 2008/10/15 09:56:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
DO'L-face wouldn't understand how Eliza works. She thinks Turing test programs are like Alicebot, all canned response. She misunderstands the Chinese Room in the same way. |
| Date: 2008/10/15 10:28:21, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Oh, there's oceans of things I don't know about that! Do you have a good source which explains it? I'd be interested to see how it explains the justification of the Sabbath in the Decalogue, the introduction of the concept wrt the manna, the building of the mishkan, Joshua at Jericho, etc. Unfortunately, those things are irrelevant to the issue, which is that you started your argument badly. It is simply not true that the difficulties of understanding the text derive from an uncertainty about what the words mean, an uncertainty driven by the remoteness in time in which the words were composed, and changes in phonology. Just btw, can you read biblical Hebrew? |
| Date: 2008/10/15 10:53:47, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| My alma mater's 15 minutes of fame start tonight! Go Hofstra! |
| Date: 2008/10/16 13:22:58, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I think you do a good job of answering the AiG claim of biblical uniqueness of the 7 day week. Wikipedia quotes others as to the naturalness of quartering the lunar cycle. It wasn't clear to me from your presentation of the material whether you were bringing example of the Egyptian astrologers simply as an example of a non-biblical seven day week (one with strong influence on European culture) or whether you meant to imply that the biblical week was adapted from the Hellenist Egyptian week. I think the second case would be much harder to prove. Do you have more than one source for the idea that Genesis 1 was redacted into the Torah separately from the rest of the J material? I'm having trouble finding that this is more than a single person's opinion. It seems unlikely if redaction events were prompted by the need to accomodate different traditions in newly mixed communities - a typical theory for what drove the redaction of J and E together, then JE, P, and D. After Ezra, its difficult for me to see how Gen 1 could have been introduced, or why. BTW, this same process of redaction/conflation is responsible for the inordinate length of the Rosh HaShannah and Yom Kippur prayer book. As different European Jewish communities were destroyed and mixed, liturgical poems multiplied by "lateral gene transfer" as individual traditions were combined. Now the services are actually difficult to get through during daylight if you insist on reading everyone of them. |
| Date: 2008/10/16 14:06:39, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Going to a Halloween party on Saturday night, I'm planning on making pumpkin mochi. Anyone ever make mochi before? |
| Date: 2008/10/16 20:49:07, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Wow, 7 out of 10 responses to Scooter's post on Joe the Plumber are from... Scooter! By Nov 4, Scooter will be the only one left on UD, and he won't even notice. |
| Date: 2008/10/17 11:28:53, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Thanks, I'd seen the idea associated with Freidman. It makes sense to me to add the story as an exercise in post-exilic nationalism. The reason you adduce re asserting sovereignty over other gods is one I have heard before, though not necessarily related to the timing of its introduction. In a sense, the classic comment of Rashi on Gen 1:1 is similar in focus. Rashi asks (following the Midrash) why the Torah, as a legal text, includes any of Genesis at all, and particularly the first chapter. His answer is that it establishes that God is the legal owner of the planet, and can dispense any part of it as gift to whomever He wants. So the right of the Jews to Palestine is set in a legal framework. I think all of the documentary strands, JEPD, include the idea that there is a day of rest more frequent than the new moon, and it is the seventh day of a cycle. As such, you'd have to argue that all the sources were radically editted in the Hellenistic period, and there was a complete break with Palestinian agrarian traditions, and Jews in Babylon had a better affinity to Egypt than Persia. And, probably, that the original Hebrew week was longer than seven days, because you can't sell having less time off, as the Revolutionary French found out! I thought your first Tanaka was slip, but since you repeated it, let me point out the word is Tanakh. It is an acronym for Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim, the three major divisions of the Hebrew Bible. |
| Date: 2008/10/21 10:59:21, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Interesting GA paper posted on the EIL site. The author appears to have designed a trap function which is hard for a certain class of GAs to solve. Points to consider - The paper is unpublished. NFL guarantees the existence of such hard functions. Trap functions are used routinely to investigate the power of new algorithms in GA research. The author references none of the literature on the construction and scaling of trap functions. But the attractive point for EIL is the code word 'Irreducibility' in the paper's title. Of course, this word has nothing to do with the content of the paper... |
| Date: 2008/10/21 11:03:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Word mean exactly what I say they mean. This explains why word salad looks like sparkling prose to her. |
| Date: 2008/10/23 13:20:21, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Frosty the No-Nothing expounds on the NAS
Compare Wikipedia
Is Frosty really VenomFangX from YouTube? Something about his willingness to spout on topics he knows nothing about reminds me of the basement dweller. |
| Date: 2008/10/23 21:04:36, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Looks good! It seems from your description of Dawkins' algorithm that several different individuals could tie for "closest". How do you choose to populate the nest generation in this case? Do they each get an equal share, or do they get a share proportionate to their representation in the previous generation. If you could show in the console the number of best individuals and all of the phenotypes, it would be better than always showing a single best individual. Using a 7 letter target and a population size of 10, I was able to force the code to step, not backwards, but at least sideways. That is to say, the best went from ABCDxFG to ABCDEzG. This does prove that letters are not locked. However, I think that with larger population sizes (and target string lengths?) it becomes very very unlikely. Everybody in the population would have to mutate very badly for a merely bad mutation to be closest to the target. So you don't have to write an explicit rule to lock letters if you only choose to explore that part of the parameter space where it will happen "for free". |
| Date: 2008/10/24 10:47:12, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Actually, it seems your code takes the last maximum, not the first, since you don't keep the score for each population member and then loop back, looking for those which equal the max score. Since your written description of Dawkin's algorithm includes "string or strings closest" in step 3, I'd go for roulette wheel selection in the next version, or drop the "or strings" phrase. Personally, I don't think that using a completely elitist algorithm (as you have now) is wrong. The purpose is to show the power of cumulative selection. It might be better to call it an (1,lambda)-ES algorithm than a GA but that is a quibble. Given the nature of the fitness function, the differences in how they explore the landscape are not important to the main point. While it is not a point explored by Dawkins, it is interesting to discuss the situations in which you do see stepbacks. Small populations and large mutation rates can step back, which is a counter example to another canard - that crossing a valley is difficult for evolution. This shows why the anti-evolution shorthand RM+NS is wrong (again). To get the diversity we see in the world in an artificial setting, a sense of space (demes) and transfer of individuals between demes is very useful, if not necessary. Demes allow small populations to bud off, explore new solutions rapidly, and bring those new solutions back to the rest of the population. Better optimization through peripatry! |
| Date: 2008/10/29 14:54:47, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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When I was learning how American politics was organized, there were four parties on the ballot. The Liberal Party always backed the Democratic candidate, and the Conservative Party always backed the Republican candidate. The Liberal and Conservative parties were themselves inconsequential, but provided a good way for the main parties to hold at arms length the more rabid supporters they attracted. Now it seems that the Reagan era transformation of the Republican Party into the Conservative Party is just about complete. I can only hope a new Republican Party emerges from the circular firing squad, one that realizes "Palin 2012" is code for disaster. |
| Date: 2008/11/04 19:14:29, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Dang, here I was with Contributor status on DoL! Personally approved by DDrr.. Dembski and Ms. Morphodyke herself. |
| Date: 2008/11/07 12:00:22, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nah, Scooter is just quoting Chrichton, we still haven't seen him defy the Second Law by putting his own ideas on the screen. |
| Date: 2008/11/10 09:22:41, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I just did a bit of wiki-research on Mims, wrt Pianka. I don't get it. Pianka's material is the kind of stuff that gets quote mined all the time by "end times" Christians. Nor is Pianka's speculations about Ebola anything new to anyone who read The Hot Zone. Weaponizing a plague has been around in novels from the The Satan Bug to Tom Clancy. It leaves me wondering what gripe did Mims have against Pianka from before, which was ignited by Pianka's doomsday talk. |
| Date: 2008/11/10 12:53:46, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
F. M. Mims III, Significant changes in the ratio of pigmented to non-pigmented airborne bacteria associated with suppressed UV-B during smoke events in Brazil (in preparation; to be submitted to Photochemistry and Photobiology). The DI never liked peppered moths, how will they react to Mims finding variation and selection operating on pigmented bacteria? |
| Date: 2008/11/12 09:42:22, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I agree, though I'm far out of my expertise. MWI =/= multiverse. MWI says that this universe is in a large number of states at the moment, a number that has been growing since time zero. However, it has nothing to say about the fine tuning (or lack thereof) of the constants of this universe. All it assumes is that this universe has QM physics. Side question: can a universe with Newtonian or other non-QM phyics support life? |
| Date: 2008/11/16 10:11:32, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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How The Mighty Have Fallen It is sad. This thread lies discarded, like a favorite vibrator whose batteries FtK has not replaced. Lama, lama, FtK sabachthani So here is a little tidbit for you. Walt Brown's Ph.D thesis online. Damn, it hurts to read this. This is real hard science. From this to hydroplates, it is like the trajectory of Behe or Gonzalez. When did Walt catch the YEC meme? |
| Date: 2008/11/20 17:42:30, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Someone should point out that the "eminent scientists" include JAD, Berlinski, DDrr.. Dembski, Granville Sewell and many others of suspect sciencieness. (No disrespect to Mims, Heddle, etc. who are also on that list.) |
| Date: 2008/11/21 16:21:52, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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In Denyse's latest link to futility, Robert Deyes takes down Sean Carroll with this deep thought: Front loading
DNA = God's own Tivo Will Scooter support the backwards walking butt shaver from Toronto? |
| Date: 2008/11/25 15:23:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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According to Patrick, switch89 is no longer with them. Has comment by comment deletion increased in the BaryA era? |
| Date: 2008/12/02 15:34:26, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Turtle on the Half Shell I missed this news item will cooking my turkey to perfection. Aren't turtle shells one of those things creationists always point to as a great unexplained mystery? Gotta love that little confirmatory evo-devo thing! |
| Date: 2008/12/02 17:09:33, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
That's my last years' turkey! :p I thought I buried that where nobody would find it... Why am I not surprised that PZ and PT have it covered, while UD is hosting a symposium on speciation by the Great Northern Bass-walkin' Shav-ackwards. |
| Date: 2008/12/05 15:06:46, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
The latest from Granny Smurf-o-dyke has some great anti-sequiturs.
but in her linked article
Exactly how could she have been there accidentally? She mistook Seattle for Toronto, and the DI offices for the bathroom? Further
but in her first article
No wonder Ruloff was annoyed at her interview. |
| Date: 2008/12/09 13:09:28, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
If only DDrr.. Dembski had had that little chat with Shrub, he could have prevented the lame duck defection to evilution. Evidence of Backsliding |
| Date: 2008/12/11 13:18:04, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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The Worm Squirms I heard this during my drive to work this morning and laughed out loud in my car. The silence is deafening near the end when Duncan has literally NO answer to the question - is it accurate to say that the Republican Party has been too close to the religious right? |
| Date: 2008/12/11 16:50:31, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It is a pity Snelling doesn't report on radioactive dating with some other decay process of the same samples. My guess is that other radioactive dating method would yield ages consistent with the accepted scientific ages, not with Noachian ages. The real problem of course is that Snelling's sample have been contaminated by a powerful source - prayer. |
| Date: 2008/12/11 17:05:28, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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FYI, I have been unbanned at UD, to the extent that I can log in and get a comment box. I haven't seen any of my comments show up yet. No sockpuppetry involved, I just asked politely. For those of you scoring at home, congratulations! |
| Date: 2008/12/17 15:20:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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BTW, My appeal to resume commenting on UD seems to have hit the proverbial brick wall. The UD mods I was referred to, Jack Cole (The Country Shrink), and Jake Akins, don't seem interested in actually letting my comments get seen by anyone but themselves. Since I hadn't seen those names mentioned by others, I thought I'd share them with you. Cole seems to be a small town psychologist with a side practice in anti-science. Akins I can't find a trace of on the web unless he's a 70-ish nerd that hates every book or game he's ever reviewed on Amazon. These are the guys Denyse turned me over to on my request to get reinstated. I don't know how many mods there are at UD or where they are in the pecking order. |
| Date: 2008/12/18 13:11:51, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Choo Mi? |
| Date: 2008/12/19 10:39:32, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Can someone 'splain to me how suicide is the "right answer" if you've been convinced by a book that there is no other place to go to, that this world is where we must make our mark, that our significance is in our own lives lived well? So sadly far of the mark. |
| Date: 2008/12/19 12:51:48, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Patrick plays The Glass Bead Game and loses. Yes, it's a telling criticism of this research that they used glass beads swished around, but glass beads are not found in nature. Patrick really told us to pound sand with that one. |
| Date: 2008/12/23 14:01:10, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
OK, I'll admit to following the discussion to this point without knowing what you mean by projectible. From nosing around on the internet, I can't find a definition of "projectible" that sounds different than "useful for induction". Is that how you mean it? Just to help me out on the whole grue/bleen thing, let's say it's a short time before time 't' and I have an emerald with a light shining on it. The reflected light passes through a beam splitter and one half goes through a long piece of fiber optic cable. Time 't' passes. If the photons exiting the cable are compared to the photons coming directly from the emerald, is there a short time when a machine or a human could detect that one stream was grue and the other was bleen? Are we discussing labels that humans put on their mental states, the perception of color by a species of primates, or dramatic changes in the real world? A good part of this discussion feels like "after 2012, we have always been at war with Eastasia." |
| Date: 2008/12/24 09:48:49, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
childhood Xmas induction FAIL |
| Date: 2008/12/24 09:50:43, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| On the bus into work this morning, it struck me that a world of mixed green and grue critters is just exaptation waitng to happen. Then I fell asleep again. |
| Date: 2008/12/26 19:08:31, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
If I understand what Wikipedia is saying about Goodman's argument, we could be discussing dogs that smell explosives in America and limburger cheese in France. Time and color are not important to the problem. |
| Date: 2008/12/29 09:12:44, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Google or Wikipedia "crested duck" for more info. Apparently a point mutation, well known to breeders. |
| Date: 2008/12/29 09:18:04, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
and he starts out so well... Gravity, shorn of it's scientific scaffolding, is just a 17th Century social theory... Steve, that's a great explanation of why everyone focuses on the power of the scientific scaffolding and leaves the 19th Century social theory to historians of science. |
| Date: 2008/12/29 14:06:49, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Seelke
and Behe thought how many were required for the creation of chloroquinone resistance? So why are they pushing this "five mutations"position? Bueller? Anyone? Seelke can now educate the rest of the ID community that evolution does move towards a particular target (recreating the protein he inactivated), but towards any improvement available. No gradient = stasis. |
| Date: 2008/12/29 14:08:16, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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does not move Dang. i can haz edibuddon? |
| Date: 2009/01/07 22:03:02, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Anyone wanting to read along with DDrr.. Dembski in Wallace's World of Life can do so in this online edition. Note chapter XIX on Pain! It is easy to see why Wallace's teleology would appeal to the ID crowd, though they will have to swallow a great deal of Darwinian evolution along with it. Makes me wonder what kind of "editing" they have done to the book. Wallace was the master of proofs for evolution from biogeography. It is an area of consilient evidence that is never addressed by Paleyists. No matter that the arguments from incredulity are almost 100 years old. |
| Date: 2009/01/09 09:14:26, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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My atheist bus comment that Clive will never let see the light of day at UD - Even if you accept that "eastern ethics" come from God, they are not being taught in the name of God. The point stands that the Golden Rule can form the basis for human relations, independent of its source. Why is there social and altruistic behavior in nature, outside of human society? At the very least, those same principles can operate within human society. A human is not a virus. |
| Date: 2009/01/12 09:40:35, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Giru Dodegemu ha gottsu ahoya desu. Japanese, with Osakan dialect for extra flava. |
| Date: 2009/01/12 10:02:51, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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For a few short days, this thread fell off the the first page. I was wondering how far it would sink before being re-animated. If FtK can post again on her own blog, perhaps there is hope she will once again grace us with a personal appearance. |
| Date: 2009/01/16 09:48:49, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| DaveScot leaves a gift for my grandchildren in the form of a prediction. We all know how well Scooter predicts things. |
| Date: 2009/01/27 18:44:02, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I was playing around with Google Maps today and decided to map "Discovery Institute". Whoa! Three locations in Seattle and one in DC. I thought they were in one tiny office that Ben Stein couldn't find with GPS. It's bi coastal anti-intellectual kudzu! What if they start selling coffee and public policy from thousands of locations? A venti double Luskin, to go, please. Mega-churches are so big box retailer, what DI's secret strategy is heading for is a presence in every school cafeteria. |
| Date: 2009/02/13 12:08:34, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I always wonder how long this thread can go without it's fearless leader... And when does micro leave off and macro start? Creating a word doesn't conjure the category into reality (thank FSM). It's turtles all the way down...
Now that's a Valentines Day present we can all be thankful for! Hold that pose, Louis is down to the short strokes... |
| Date: 2009/02/16 20:07:59, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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All this made me go read Wikipedia's page on Haldane's Dilemma again. That page never looks the same from one visit to the next! Reading the discussion panel was fun. Hilarious to see WalterR talk about himself in the third person. Did you know that DaveScot was banned from Wikipedia? Is there any way to collect all of his trolling comments, a sort of "Collected Wit and Slightly Cheezy Poof Dusted Wisdom"? That would be a comedy gold mine... |
| Date: 2009/02/17 12:04:29, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
From the discussion panel of the Wikipedia page for Haldane's Dilemma:
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| Date: 2009/02/18 09:45:46, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Is Allen catching BMB (Buy My Book) disease from the rest of the UcD denizens? If you work too long in the psych ward... |
| Date: 2009/02/18 10:31:38, Link | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||||||||||
Some classic Scooter there... Scooter Falls On His Turd For Dembski The evidence from Missouri...
Scooter thinks quoting his own words is libelous of himself!!1!
Then backpedals furiously...
What is this "empty rhetoric" you speak of? Ain't you a Marine? This isn't empty rhetoric, just a garden variety FAILED SCOOTER PREDICTION. The bannination hammer falls on the cheezy poofed fingers of Scooter...
Scooter decides a guerilla campaign is the only way to continue "helping" his fearless leader.
...and proceeds to talk about himself in the third person...
... to no avail. Scooter's nose is rubbed in his own tard.
Instant replay
Slow motion
That's gotta leave a mark. A cheezy poof shaped mark, but a mark, nonetheless. Perhaps we should blame JoshuaZ for Scooter's reckless abandon with the bannination stick and loudspeaker in the ceiling since the day he was banninated from Wikipedia. Or maybe we should just blame Scooter hisself. We report, you decide. |
| Date: 2009/02/18 12:04:47, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
"Dude, have you looked at your evolution, I mean really looked at it?" "Dude, it's like, you look at it, and it's macro-evolution..." "Dude, yeah,... and then you look at, I mean really look at it... and it's all micro." "Dude, that's so deep." "Dude, gimme another hit of that South American stuff Charlie brought back..." |
| Date: 2009/02/18 12:17:34, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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"Can you read, Pooh?" Owl asked a little anxiously. So Owl wrote, and this is what he wrote: HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDTH THUTHDA BTHUTHDY. Pooh looked on admiringly. "I'm just saying `A Happy Birthday<to Bob O'h>'," said Owl carelessly. "It's a nice long one," said Pooh, very much impressed. "Well, actually, of course, I'm saying `A Very Happy Birthday with Love from Pooh'. Naturally it takes a good deal of pencil to say a long thing like that." |
| Date: 2009/02/18 14:06:43, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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A report of an omnivorous early dinosaur has created two new gaps in the fossil record. So when the lion lies down with the lamb, this guy can lie down in between, eat the lamb's lunch for the salad course, then eat both the lion and the lamb... |
| Date: 2009/02/20 18:00:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
When you go out for more, don't forget the diapers... |
| Date: 2009/02/20 21:24:27, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
(I know I'm late to this party, but...) What is Louis' aunt doing on the set of Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS? |
| Date: 2009/02/25 09:45:29, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Louis' number, OTOH, is represented by the Hebrew letter Sin. |
| Date: 2009/02/27 14:33:27, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Tiki of Mulling's new medication shcedule is working! Comments on a single topic! Fewer quotations! Sentences not requiring punctuation until the end! KF, if you're reading here, thank you. You should try posting over here. |
| Date: 2009/03/02 21:55:41, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Gradients aren't so important to GAs, because the new population members are not created by following the gradient. Your original question about the unreasonable effectiveness of GAs compared to Dembski's snaffling can be answered by assuming that we are only asking GAs to solve problems they happen to be good at solving. The NFL theorems would lead you to expect that there are equally many problems where GAs perform worse than random search. But it seems these are not problems which we humans are interested in at the moment. GA (and EC in general) are themselves the result of competition among algorithms for the attention of humans. I was just reading about the development of the Differential Evolution algorithm by its inventors, and they were quite candid about the amount of tinkering and competition between versions that went on. (This same argument can be used for the "unreasonable effectiveness" of mathematics. There are an unlimited number of axiomatic systems, we have kept the one that works best.) |
| Date: 2009/03/02 22:08:13, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yes, it is very cool, and it's called "genetic programming". Invented by John Koza (the man who also invented scratch-off lottery tickets) back in the 90s. Koza founded the Humie awards, for using GP and other EC algorithms to invent things as good or better than humans. Note to Scooter, MersenneTwister is smarter than you. |
| Date: 2009/03/02 22:15:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I just joined Folding@Home. Now my spare CPU cycles fold proteins for scientific and medical research. Dang! Science is more addicting than TARD! Everyone should do this. Certainly everyone with a PS3 should do this. Please join! |
| Date: 2009/03/03 12:20:14, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Yes, population members at a point of higher fitness probably have more children, whether a gradient exists or not. There is a branch of GA research, led by Dr. David Goldberg at University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, which creates deliberately deceptive fitness functions in order to better understand how GAs work and improve them. Goldberg's "Design of Innovation" is a great book on GA theory and the practice of engineering. I think he also has an intro to GA lecture online. All the IDiots who claim engineers as a class should watch it. So should everyone else! If you can imagine a fitness function that looks like the white noise on your TV screen - that's the kind of fitness function where random search is even up with GA. THe surface of our planet is much calmer than that, so evolution has a chance to act in the real world. |
| Date: 2009/03/03 12:25:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yes, some GA researchers study time-varying fitness functions. I also remember seeing some paper about a fitness function that was mainly a function of the rest of the population. I think it was a good demonstration of the development of sexual selection and "fashion", because the optimum value just wandered around. Even Dembski's MESA was a GA with a stochastic component. It didn't stop it from working, which I think is why DDrr.. Dembski abandoned the project. Wrong results! |
| Date: 2009/03/03 13:10:20, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Richard T Hughes, the Elisha Gray of Information Theory |
| Date: 2009/03/03 17:00:31, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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SETI@TARD Scooter loves this hobby horse. Does he ever admit that the SETI program makes assumptions about who might be sending a signal? We're only listening for folks like us. |
| Date: 2009/03/03 17:23:04, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Yes, my metaphors are certainly mixed. However, my understanding of "gradient" as it has been used in this conversation is the assumption that the fitness surface is smooth and differentiable, so that (a la hill climbing and simulated annealing) you can creep along the surface from one spot to another close by spot trying to pick up incremental improvements. My point has been that finding a better fitness point in no way implies there is a continuous, smooth, upward path between the new point and its parents. The classic GA that uses crossover as an "explore" operator and mutation as an "exploit" operator gets most of the improvement from crossover, and might find the global optimum by bit flipping (mutation, exploitation) at the end of the run. (Vastly simplifying, YMMV, etc.) Crossover might mate (100, 0) and (0, 100) to get (100, 100), flinging the search across the parameter space completely. Gradient, shmadient, the fitness surface doesn't even have to exist in between these points in parameter space, much less be smooth. Crossover == teleportation. |
| Date: 2009/03/04 11:58:07, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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The Origin of Phagocytosis and Eukaryogenesis Or as Tommy Lee Jones said in Men In Black, "Eat me!" |
| Date: 2009/03/04 12:44:11, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Hey Louis, is this you? Skell Abuse at Pharyngula |
| Date: 2009/03/04 14:00:12, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Microbes have finished evolving, but Domoman asks for extra time. You gotta wonder what Domomomo-man thinks of rocks with high ratios of lead to uranium. "Nobody witnessed the decay, it's a just so story." BTW - is anyone a geologist? Is it true that rocks older than 2.5 Gya don't have nitrate compounds? (Or stuff made from nitrates, like hot dog preservatives) |
| Date: 2009/03/04 14:07:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
The whole Punjabi speaking in-laws thing made me uncertain, then I realized they are probably just speaking Welsh but Louis doesn't realise it. :p |
| Date: 2009/03/04 17:45:28, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
A clear explanation of why India is overpopulated and Wales is not. |
| Date: 2009/03/05 09:23:43, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Happy happy birthday! |
| Date: 2009/03/05 11:24:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I call man-crush. That site has some top top quality TARD. Daisy May Brings Teh Crazy Even more crazy - that page has been recommended 154 times! |
| Date: 2009/03/05 16:40:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Well, I can see why you think it is safe to tell the atheist squid worshipers that you've got a hot Punjabi number at home, and not the home crowd here. No elbow jostling about "one in the tandoor" from that lot. |
| Date: 2009/03/06 14:53:36, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
A great album, especially "Lehigh vs Hofstra", my alma mater. |
| Date: 2009/03/06 15:07:00, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It is pleased to be noting that I tried to zig when everyone else was zagging on the Louis is Welsh meme. I said Dr. L couldn't tell Punjabi from Welsh. Granted he could still be Welsh, but too drunk to tell Punjabi from Welsh when his in-laws were speaking. Louis might be Welsh and too drunk to tell Punjabi from Welsh when he's speaking it. |
| Date: 2009/03/06 15:09:09, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Since he's wearing a Temple shirt on the cover, you must be right! Bartender, one for the comely albino squirrel, if you please! |
| Date: 2009/03/07 10:13:15, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Symbolic Regression Using Genetic Programming a Java applet that demonstrates the idea. |
| Date: 2009/03/07 10:18:19, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Paging Dr. Who, Gil Dodgem wants his suit back! |
| Date: 2009/03/09 15:59:20, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]
A good place to start particularly the material on the CRA and the GSEs. |
| Date: 2009/03/09 18:48:56, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]
This entry may enlighten you. Basically, as Pogo once said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." It is not just the toxic sub-prime mortgages. It is the broad collapse of all housing prices, with concommitant price collapse of CDOs and other structured financial instruments. In this sense, the real problem is not that my brother's house is worth less than his sub-prime mortgage, it is that my house is down 30-40% in value as well. With uncertainty of value, the market vanishes. The concept of "mark to market" prices becomes meaningless. Billions of dollars cease to exist. Before 1929, Wall St invented the mutual fund. It is really a way to spread investments and lower risk (simplifying), but at the time it became an instrument of speculation. Regulation lagged far behind invention, then as today. In the months before the Crash, funds were created and sold that only invested in other funds, pyramid-wise. It all collapsed in late October. John Kenneth Galbraith's book, The Great Crash, is a marvelous education.[U] |
| Date: 2009/03/09 18:55:10, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]
That's the point, they didn't spend it, they kept it for themselves. As an asset ("Cash") on the balance sheet to offset the negative values of loans. The government wanted them to loan it out to keep money and credit circulating in the economy. They chose not to be altruistic, collectively. And had one bank individually chosen to do so, the others would have taken advantage of it, like vampires sucking the blood of the living. And then that bank's management would have been exposed to shareholder lawsuits for not thinking selfishly enough. |
| Date: 2009/03/10 09:43:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
One place KF will not link to, because it actually does quote Dawkins from the relevant chapter of Blind Watchmaker. But KF would rather repeat DDrr.. Dembski's misunderstanding of Weasel than find out what the original author says. |
| Date: 2009/03/10 10:05:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I just edited that Wiki page to include a reference to Dembski & Co's misunderstanding of the Weasel algorithm. |
| Date: 2009/03/11 08:42:13, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
That was Rear Admiral Dr. Grace Murray Hopper. |
| Date: 2009/03/11 08:50:43, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
The creationist quotemine, appearing on UD in 10, 9,... |
| Date: 2009/03/12 10:57:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| How does Clive handle the cognitive dissonance of being a psychologist for a day job, and being a UD immoderator? |
| Date: 2009/03/12 12:13:13, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Clive, I'm sorry I called you a psychologist. And I'm very sorry your clients call you a psychologist. Dude, you can do better than this. |
| Date: 2009/03/12 12:31:21, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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And for those scoring at home (congratulations!), here's the source for the Darwinist aborigine genocide meme. David Monaghan Productions Not exactly peer reviewed literature, unless your peer group is "Lap Dance War", "Sex Bomb", and "Trees On Mars". Funny that in some cases, this site links to the script of the show. In the case of I Was Darwin's Love Zombie, it links to Weiland's article quoting from Monaghan's article. I did find at least a part of the original article with quotes from original sources via Google Book Search in a tome called Law and Culture. Monaghan does seem to have found clear evidence that some people killed native Australians to sell their remains to science museums. |
| Date: 2009/03/12 14:56:36, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
No, I think Scooter has actually learned something from all those kind souls who have been beating on the "random assembly is vastly improbable" strawman. This another example of him being the smartest wanker in the chat room. He's also right that if the fitness function changes fast enough (weasel -> beagle -> dongle) the population will never converge on the global optimum. That's true and perfectly normal. Just more evidence that evolution is backward looking, imperfect, and happens all the time. |
| Date: 2009/03/13 12:53:23, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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If BarryA and Clive can keep the bannination thread off the first page here, I will believe that they have made a permanent change in policy. To really test the strength of their resolve, I think Calrsonjok should try to post a potty mouthed HAHA THIS IS YOU LOLcat aimed at Clive over at UD. Extra points for working in the word "morphodyke". |
| Date: 2009/03/13 16:42:46, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Crossposted from the Dawkins On Purpose thread, in case Clive doesn't have the juice to get me out of the moderation limbo. DonaldM @16, I think Dawkins would argue that we have always had "archi-purpose" as long as we have been trying to fulfill our chemical drives of hunger, thirst, and sex. Thats a few hundred million years. What does it take to build a brain that is more than a stimulus response mechanism? How many hidden layers of neurons can be built by duplicating genes and lengthening timelines? These changes in development require GA operators beyond the mutation and crossover typically used in scientific research. But just as crossover vastly increases the reach of a GA compared to simply mutation, so having a variably sized genome that works hierarchically adds vastly more opportuniy to reach very different "places" on the fitness landscape in one or a few steps. |
| Date: 2009/03/13 16:44:30, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Editted To Add - I HAZ NO EDIBUDDON HALP!!1! |
| Date: 2009/03/16 14:21:48, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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R0b's barking up the wrong tree on Dembski's new Weasel thread. The parameters have to be different to produce an answer in 2400+ generations compared to the book's avg. of 50. How would DDrr.. Dembski answer this question: Is MESA a different program if you change the parameters? |
| Date: 2009/03/16 14:33:05, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
THIS AM THE WRONG THRED SORY!!1! |
| Date: 2009/03/16 15:11:33, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
nor I. That teaches me to disagree with mods. combined with being in moderation limbo at UD, i'm starting to wonder if I still exist... |
| Date: 2009/03/16 15:14:32, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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ok, having broken out of the Phantom Zone, here's what that post tried to say: Wes, you're wrong. THe gens on the Weasel video go up to 2485, proof the params are different. Probably a smaller pop size, perhaps a higher mutation rate. It's a better visual image, that's all. |
| Date: 2009/03/16 15:36:02, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Saying the parameters might be different is Dembski's notpology and sidejab at KF to STFU. One thing I've never seen done with the parameter space of a GA like weasel is to map the convergence times a la all those pretty Mandelbrot set pictures. I doubt they come out as spectularly intricate. More to the point for DDrr.. Dembski, there would be very little black where the choice of parameters never converge. The robustness of GAs is a slap in the face of ID. |
| Date: 2009/03/16 18:05:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Wes, I retract my disagreement on weasel params, book vs video. R0b's point (over at UD)on the word "tries" has opened my eyes. |
| Date: 2009/03/16 18:11:08, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate This is sig-worthy:
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| Date: 2009/03/18 13:11:21, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| If Gil's albums are available for free as MP3, in what sense are they a prize? |
| Date: 2009/03/18 13:22:56, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Recently, Wes made a comment that Weasel doesn't work (converge) in regimes of low population size and/or high mutation rates. (Actually he was agreeing with me on this point...) I suddenly made the association yesterday that this reflects badly on the Creation Museum and the new style of YEC argumentation. For years, YECs stonewalled against plate tectonics and evolution. But recently, some have flipped the idea around and proclaimed that after the Flood, plate tectonics and evolution worked at warp speed to create the natural world we see today. But a GA with a pop size of 2 (or 8 for humans, and 14 for kosher animals) is gonna fail fail fail, especially at warp speed mutation rates. God must have stuck Her delicate Fingers into the DNA of all those creatures to ensure that each mutation was beneficial... |
| Date: 2009/03/18 14:57:01, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Some Id-ists have trouble understanding why abstractions like GA/EC are relevant - ie. but it ain't wet! An important point for these folks (and others) is that GA isn't a model of evolution, it _IS_ evolution. |
| Date: 2009/03/18 17:01:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Thank you Wes! Sometimes people are stunned by complexity, but these images are so simple that most people don't see the significance. Evolution just works. |
| Date: 2009/03/18 20:15:15, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Polonius was using an early version of the Nixplanatory Filter to detect the designs in the cloud shapes. Do you think a camel-weasel-whale shaped cloud could just happen by accident?? |
| Date: 2009/03/18 22:42:11, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
The Nicksplanatory Philtre of the Shakespearean Era contained immoderate amounts of polonium. (Polonius actually spoke the epilogue in Hamlet, but his lines were held in moderation.) Later versions substituted iron for increased sensitivity to irony. Lead was used to ensure that evidence was followed whereever it, um, lead. Gold helped detect telic (goal-directed) argumentation. At one time, all Nixplanatory devices had to operate within a Faraday cage. Nowadays, a Templeton field suppressor is used instead. |
| Date: 2009/03/19 08:37:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
C'mon Louis, don't you like how Pendulum is swinging with his comment? |
| Date: 2009/03/19 10:20:44, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Pendulum is just doing to Bignum arguments what others have done for years to hydroplate theory in another corner of creationism. Cdk007's youtube videos, for example. "If I take your idea seriously, what are the other implications, besides the one you want to highlight." |
| Date: 2009/03/19 11:41:15, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Valaquesse is no longer with them, and Clive has discovered how to operate the Loudspeaker In The Ceiling. |
| Date: 2009/03/19 11:48:10, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I agree. There are folks who deny evolution can exist at all, and there are those who deny what biology does is evolution. |
| Date: 2009/03/19 11:51:45, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I nominate El Gordo of TKI. He's almost out of steam. Whoever is running kairosfocus, PM 'Ras for further instructions. |
| Date: 2009/03/19 11:57:05, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Remember how Scooter used to drop references to "a private message board"? I wonder if he still has any privileges there. Dave - this is your chance for payback! If you accidentally back up your collection of brilliant BarryA comments to /dev/internet, no one will blame you. |
| Date: 2009/03/19 14:14:49, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Scooter Redivivus!
Before it disappears... |
| Date: 2009/03/23 05:48:20, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I'm five pages behind in reading this thread, sorry if this is now considered off topic. The docent at the Edo-Tokyo Museum quoted a figure of 250,000 deaths in the firebombing of Tokyo (an event he survived as a child). It's easy to believe, given the entire city was made of wood and paper houses. I couldn't go to the Hiroshima Museum, where some of the docents are also survivors. After standing at Ground Zero (the original), looking at the paper cranes festooning the Children's Memorial, and ringing the Peace Bell, it was just too much for me. I hate to say it, but in the case of Hiroshima, the "shock and awe" probably did save lives. How terrible to be forced to think in those terms. |
| Date: 2009/03/24 19:29:27, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I agree with your description. The UD post that characterised Weasel as ES, specifically (1, lambda)-ES, also means you don't need an array for the next generation, you just need to keep the current best. |
| Date: 2009/03/25 15:00:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
What's the counter example, a mind injury that doesn't affect the brain? I thought G-Spice was paid to write for UD, so cause and effect are a bit backwards here. |
| Date: 2009/03/25 18:49:34, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Start with an optimal population size. Goldberg's research suggests N= 1.4L, where L is the length of the problem description (and therefore the population members) in bits. That is a good bit higher than the commonplace 50. |
| Date: 2009/03/25 20:09:43, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yeah, I guessed 27 log 2 was around 4.5 so I got 177. |
| Date: 2009/03/26 09:22:19, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I should mention that most of Goldberg's research is in GAs using only a selection operator and a recombination operator, no mutation. This despite publishing papers (see the "Ready to Rumble" series) that show mutation is the more efficient operator in some broad classes of problems. Since Weasel is really a (1,n)-ES, not a selectorecombinative GA, that population sizing heuristic might not be completely appropriate. But I don't know of other work with as firm a footing. |
| Date: 2009/03/26 09:27:54, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Many props to you for reading it. Is there a research library of "literature" like this? Somewhere scholars can access the original sources without paying loons like ReMine? |
| Date: 2009/03/26 12:16:41, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Dembski's latest, an essay on computational vs biological evolution. This should be great... Though I have a feeling this essay will never see the light of day, it's just a conversational gambit. Avida, ev, and Tierra not faithful, MESA, Mutationworks, and mendel faithul to biology. What ever kind of dope they have at that bibble school, he's been smoking it. MESA was written to attack Weasel, it is a OneMax GA with some bells and whistles. It works to well for Dembski to publish the results. Mutationworks is a web page built to attack Dawkins and Weasel. With the wrong code for Weasel, 'natch. Turn the sound up, and you can hear the flatulence evolving. Mendelsaccountant seems to be a serious attempt at the numerical simulation of population genetics, though I only read the one descriptive paper. Like MESA, I've never heard ID supporters referencing it, so the results may be too realistic to have propaganda value. ETA to add link, yay edibuddon! |
| Date: 2009/03/26 12:37:03, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
MutationFlatulence
Carlson, I need a LOLcat. Weasel, ur doin it rong. |
| Date: 2009/03/26 15:58:43, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Dembski didn't say "like real evolution". He said "less than faithful" and "reasonably faithful". If the faith he talking about is the Southern Baptist faith, he's probably right. |
| Date: 2009/03/27 07:47:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Pendulum Channels Heddle
All science so far... |
| Date: 2009/03/27 13:15:09, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Dick to the Dawk to the Ph. D Swing that shizzle like a guided missle takin down clowns of teh ID -pendulum rap |
| Date: 2009/03/27 18:20:50, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
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Pendulum seems to have fallen on his, erm... sword. Last two comments are in the Phantom Zone. They went something like to DLH -
to David Kellogg -
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| Date: 2009/03/27 23:40:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yes, recombination and selection lead to convergence, hopefully on the correct allele. Goldberg's Design of innovation is a great resource on these issues in GAs. |
| Date: 2009/03/29 07:51:59, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
My pendulous comments still go straight to hell, nothing has changed. Time to activate Pudenda, Pendulum's evil twin sister. |
| Date: 2009/03/29 08:24:31, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| In the past, I've worked with the ECJ package from Sean Luke's group at George Mason University. It has support for (mu, lamda)-ES built in. I might have time to build a weasel in ECJ. I think it might be a matter of setting up the parameter file right, all the code is already there. |
| Date: 2009/03/29 08:45:23, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Not specifically Weasel... I just read this paper on sexual selection in GA. I was thinking of trying to reproduce (ahem) some of the results. It seems the researchers made a bunch of changes to the standard GA, and I'd like to see which were responsible for the positive variations they report. |
| Date: 2009/03/30 13:55:34, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Fanboy moment - just had lunch with Wes! First time I've met someone from this forum in person. |
| Date: 2009/03/30 18:30:32, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I wonder if Clive, the Country Shrink, can explain nested hierarchies any better than FtK. It doesn't matter much what he "rejects" if it makes better predictions of reality than ... what? A completely unconstrained Designer? A Designer whose designs are as likely to look like white noise as they are the Mona Lisa? ps - excellent discussion of neurotransmitters and their effect on the shape of the human mind by Tom Ray, here at the Computational Intelligence A-Life symposium. I wished Uncommonly Denyse was in the audience so I could have watched her head spin around and vomit pea soup. |
| Date: 2009/03/30 18:59:11, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Since comments are off for the Second Part of the Reyes/Calvert opus, I suppose I will have to make my comments here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!11!!!!one Of course, amino acids are completely independent in sequence - if they don't have to fold into anything meaningful. But if they are supposed to fold into functional proteins, then they are constrained by the physics and chemistry of those proteins. Come on everybody, raise your hands if you think DNA assembled randomly in orbit around Russel's teapot, then fell gently to Earth to land in a warm pond. (Comments off, like they knew the tard was too strong even for UD.) |
| Date: 2009/03/31 08:23:03, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I was thinking of his comments that the number of Serotonin-7 receptors in your brain determined how religiously susceptible you were - high, very, low, not ("like most of the people in this room" (laughter)). |
| Date: 2009/03/31 11:02:57, Link | ||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||
He is. |
| Date: 2009/04/01 09:50:18, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Hermagoras
What you need at this point in the conversation is a LOLN-Cat. Coat. Week. Veal. Waitress. |
| Date: 2009/04/02 09:31:11, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I tried recommending A-Life to him, as well as ECHO, Sugarscape, etc. I think he would prefer ignorance at this point. |
| Date: 2009/04/02 10:16:53, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Kind of proves Darwinism ain't a religion. Jerry, please remind yourself of this comment later. |
| Date: 2009/04/02 16:36:08, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Own goal by DLH, who triumphantly quotes Behe trying to slap down (as if) Eugene Koonin.
The Whitehead paper points out (with a GA!11!) how copy errors at the transcription and translation stages can allow neutral or even deleterious genotype mutations to ride along in a big enough population, until a second mutation comes along to make the pair of mutations advantageous. The phenotype fitness contains noise, instead of a pure and direct expression of the genotypic ideal fitness. Believe it or not, this was an idea that Dembski set up MESA to test. Another lost opportunity to do good science. |
| Date: 2009/04/05 20:12:48, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Bijection Fail meets the Immovale Tard This Abel paper is a complete hairball. Instead of DDrr.. Dembski's troika of law, chance, and design, Abel has created his own law, chance, and selection. But selection implies agency, therefore FSM did it. |
| Date: 2009/04/06 13:14:50, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
As a CS geek, I always pay attention to women wearing nothing but spock ears. |
| Date: 2009/04/06 18:31:49, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
If you can sashay with that much cachet, you don't need to worry about holding a conversation, Maya! |
| Date: 2009/04/06 20:34:36, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Don't hurt yourself, I volunteer to check for you. (Begins looking for robe and wizard hat...) |
| Date: 2009/04/06 21:36:09, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
The Saga of Bloodninja is in the pantheon of geek humor. Or perhaps the Parthenon. It's the inverted mirror to the geek certainty that talking to girls is simply a painful method of assisted suicide. So forget the spock ears. Just set your nipples to 'stun'... [Bathroom Wall in 5... 4...] |
| Date: 2009/04/07 08:54:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
ID Poetry Contest!
This is a haiku the way ID is science, close but no cigar. |
| Date: 2009/04/07 16:42:58, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
SteviewonBer needs to re-read Aquina's Treatise on General Relativity. He's really not keeping up his end of the conversation. |
| Date: 2009/04/07 18:51:13, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I missed both versions. Are they archived somewhere? I just went to OE and didn't see it in any obvious location. |
| Date: 2009/04/08 14:37:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima asks in amazement
I'm pleased to announce that after 40 years, French is rejoining the Platonic universe shared by English, 'Merican, German, Italian, etc. Listening posts will remain in place in the Czech part of the space to defend against the possible launch of Farsi loan words into the NATO zone. ps - what is TARD in French? Shermer should be alerted to the quality and quantity of TARD now associated with his name. In other news, Nakamdead seems to have narrowly avoided falling into a CTA (Closed Timecube-like Argument) with SteviewonBer, which would have resulted in going back in time to kill Aquinas' grandfather. Seversky is under pseudo-ban for not being rude. Over 200 posts, and KF has not found a way to introduce Weasel into the conversation. |
| Date: 2009/04/08 14:47:18, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I thought they had gone back and done more sensitive analysis of Miller's results and found all 20 amino acids. This paper still says only 10. |
| Date: 2009/04/08 15:22:54, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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4 cups of wine, matzah, roasted eggs, horseradish, bananas dipped in salt water - I chose my religion by looking at the menu! Happy Passover, y'all! |
| Date: 2009/04/09 11:06:07, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Waiter, ther's a God in my sushi
He's going to be disappointed. The experiment was reported in a festschrift (posthumously published), but the sample size was low (N=1). I don't think that paper is out of peer review yet. |
| Date: 2009/04/09 11:07:29, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Just as long as it comes out before the Dembski and Marks papers! |
| Date: 2009/04/10 10:43:50, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Banninating Scooter was like pulling the rods out of the reactor at Chernobyl. However, there are three semi-rational discussions going on right now, SteviewonBer is self medicating to treat his rudeness, excessive rudeness by JAD is being ignored or ridiculed, several complaints about moderation lags have quieted. DenseO'L is being ignored. Fuller is ignored. Idnet.au is ignored. Is it Holy Week, or is it just springtime? or is it ... Satan! |
| Date: 2009/04/10 23:27:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
The hazel, David Kellogg, Nakashima troika seem to be taming SteviewonBer's savage impulses, all the while beating him around the head with his own philosophy. That thread has seen a number of chances for Clive moderate the conversation into a safer place, but I think they are so happy to discuss metaphysics, they want it to go on. Thank FSM there is no KF on that thread. |
| Date: 2009/04/12 08:34:31, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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The weird thing is that JAD can be tempted into a serious discussion. It's just that there's always a Schindewolf at the door, waiting to derail him into monomania again. When do you think JAD stopped reading the literature? |
| Date: 2009/04/12 08:46:37, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Spare me the selective hyperskepticism! Onlookers, it is clear that DDrr.. Dembski meant that phages are really, really teeny tiny small++ bastards. The correct null hypothesis should have been Anagram Neutral Search in shegap space. |
| Date: 2009/04/13 10:52:55, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Of course Play-doh is squishy. That's why kids love it! Psst! Carlson! needz ur mad PShop skillz... |
| Date: 2009/04/13 14:09:26, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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AmeriKanInKansaskis smites his enemies with the jawbone of a TARD So, do we still think this guy is DS? He just called DDrr.. Dembski 'juvenile'. |
| Date: 2009/04/15 13:50:30, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima is just angling for the position of thread-nanny. Clive is no longer a moderator on that thread, he's a participant. After all the kissy face over the Easter weekend, I think it's grating on SteviewonBer that his opponents have not yet converted. And as much as he blew kisses to VJ for polishing the TARD, he's really not comfortable arguing via formal logic. |
| Date: 2009/04/16 17:33:20, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Nakashima Awards DK The Badge of Courage with Bronze Cluster for resisting snark in the face of overwhelming temptation. |
| Date: 2009/04/16 23:22:15, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Clive, From reading the Shermer thread, it's obvious your reading along here in close to real time. First, congrats on how you are handling that thread. Tempers have flared on both sides, but you've let participants iron out their differences. Second, congrats on continuing to read here, even though a lot of crap has been flung your way for places where you haven't been as successful. Given the above, why not cobble up a user name and join the conversation here as well? I think it would raise a lot of people's respect for you, and for UD. There are lots of people here that would prefer talking with you to ranting/teasing a lurker. Even Louis will be nice, once you say the dress doesn't make him look fat. |
| Date: 2009/04/16 23:44:18, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
By the mass, and 't is like a rabbit, indeed. |
| Date: 2009/04/17 12:19:46, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I think Nakashima has just been silently banninated, either for saying StephenB is living in an intellectual time warp (on the Shermer thread), or for pushing GilDodgen about human competitve algorithms (on the Texas thread). Bummer, considering all the nice things I just said about Clive. I'll try again over the weekend to log back in over there, but very low hopes of success. |
| Date: 2009/04/17 14:12:46, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I may have spoken too soon, Nakashima is back online. Clive, if it was you, thanks! |
| Date: 2009/04/18 16:12:49, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I think that is where Nakashima started his contribution several hundred posts earlier. |
| Date: 2009/04/18 18:00:17, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima raises his sake cup in response, sir. You are too kind. And if anyone would like to respond seriously to N-san's thoughts on macro-evolution on the Texas Chainsaw School Board thread, he would be honored. ink-lay
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| Date: 2009/04/18 19:11:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
No, Nakashima hasn't been on moderation since his first post, if he remembers correctly. That was on Denyse's earthquake thread. |
| Date: 2009/04/19 10:12:52, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I'm still on a gastric feeding tube since that O'leary On The Half Shell image. For the love of FSM, don't repost it! Bring back T'Pol as a stand in! |
| Date: 2009/04/19 10:27:42, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Jerry
jerry you magnificent bastard, PM me. Your last deaddrop has been compromised, and you need to re-establish a link to your control. The money cannot be delivered until then. Don't tell this to anyone in your network. Especially Joseph. |
| Date: 2009/04/19 17:06:28, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I think the case would be "defamation per se" in most US courts. If they don't teach you this in journalism school, major media must teach it in on-the-job courses. |
| Date: 2009/04/21 20:38:27, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima tries poking it with a stick
Barry should really know better than to rely on KF for OP material. Godwin fail in the OP, that is embarassing. |
| Date: 2009/04/22 12:03:33, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nausium being one of those newly discovered super-heavy elements with reality altering properties. |
| Date: 2009/04/22 17:27:34, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima wants SARDINEs
Perhaps Joseph can explain to him how Tiktaalik is really a SARDINE. |
| Date: 2009/04/23 11:59:02, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
All the while shouting "La La La I can't hear you" at Nakashima, MacNeil, etc. His premises are fine. It's the conclusion that is TARD. (Filed under Intelligent Design) |
| Date: 2009/04/23 12:32:15, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima searches for truth.
Sorry, Nakashima, UD specializes in calculating CSI (Childish Scathing Invective) and CFSI (Completely Facetious Snarky Innuendo) but ony the results are published, not the intermediate steps. |
| Date: 2009/04/23 16:43:22, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
From the comments to that post:
Barrogant is currently holding at 7. |
| Date: 2009/04/23 23:00:05, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Shorter StephenB: I can't read symbolic logic and prefer to obfuscate in English. Onlookers that are not oil soaked hyperskeptical hominids will have noticed that Vjtorley, who introduced symbolic logic into that other TARDmine about the cosmological argument, has assiduously avoided commenting on Nakashima's comment 23. BTW, this afternoon I saw an ad for a Ford hybrid in the ad space at UD. I think the chief result, and perhaps purpose, of these incredibly off topic threads has been to up the page views and earn more money. But according to Alexa, UD is down seriously over the last 3 months. Bring back DS! |
| Date: 2009/04/24 07:07:19, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Aetiology Tara Smith still gets my vote. |
| Date: 2009/04/24 10:09:33, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Grrr, no wonder you made fun of me for boasting of having lunch with Wes. Help me out here. If the assault on science was a movie, how should it be cast? Tara Smith - Angelina Jolie PZ Myers - Rick Moranis Casey Luskin - Dr Phil JAD - Christopher Lloyd KF - Idi Amin |
| Date: 2009/04/24 11:52:50, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Does anyone have the Tao comment by Allen MacNeil that Barrogant obliviated? |
| Date: 2009/04/24 13:05:29, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Titanium Infused Spider SIlk Sometimes I read something like this, and I think Kurzweil is right, the Singularity is around the corner. Other times, I just giggle about living in the future. |
| Date: 2009/04/24 13:54:25, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Allen's Obliviated Post
I'm not seeing what Barrogant's big problem was. Anyone who can handle Genesis 1 or the start of the Gospel of John should be able to grok this. It's a pity the thread is closed. Nakashima told me he intended to post the text with one small addition.
ETA - thx Hazel for the text |
| Date: 2009/04/24 23:19:45, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Am I wrong, or did Gil Dodgen's latest piece on AI, LS-DYNA, cartoons, and simulation just vaporize after about 3 hours? It's not on the top of the UD home page, and the Google link to it goes somewhere broken. |
| Date: 2009/04/25 09:05:28, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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KF Own Goal Barrogant and El Gordo of Tiki are a great combination for TARD production. Please continue working together. Here are some suggested topics you might want to consider in the future. Darwin: Holocaust Implicitly Latched By My Book (with help from Uncommonly Dense) Dawkinsian Hyperskepticism Permitted Klebold To Pull The Trigger Slavery and the Atheist Onlooker |
| Date: 2009/04/25 19:39:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Frilly Shirted Pianist Has Left The Building Clown Fearing Banninator - Banninated Pathetic Level of Sweater - Reduced to shilling TED videos Respectable Godbotherer - Buy My Book! UnlatchedOutoffocus - One missed pill away from complete meltdown AmbulanceChaser - wants his 15 minutes of fame back AquinasLover - fighting almost singlehandedly on threads started by others (Singlehanded because Tribune7 has tied his other hand behind him accidentally while trying to help) Gil, the echo chamber is gonna be a lot more echo-y. |
| Date: 2009/04/25 20:20:06, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
or perhaps
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| Date: 2009/04/25 20:35:35, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Actually, I'll vote for the off-topic comment in which Nakashima congratulated Rybczynski on her new fossil seal. |
| Date: 2009/04/25 20:43:03, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Personally, I think the saddest part about Nakashima's brief career on UD was not that it ended so abruptly, but that his polite and relentlessly fact based comments got so little traction with the regulars there. Staying on topic just doesn't work in the Barrogant based UD. Luckily, my kairosfocus sockpuppet has survived Nakashima's assault! |
| Date: 2009/04/25 21:46:01, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Girl, you have that whole Grand Inquisitor wannabe thing down cold in your StephenB! Bravo! PM me if you want to meet up, I promise I won't ask you to wear Spock ears. [looks desparately for T'pol pic again] |
| Date: 2009/04/25 22:03:09, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I'm hoping Barry will respond with an explanation of the bannination. If the reason was a post accusing him of having a sense of humor - now that would be funny! |
| Date: 2009/04/25 22:23:52, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Base 4 or Bust! Unquoteable drivel by a KF wannabe. But a good excuse to direct your attention to a cool paper on the evolution of the genetic code. A four-column theory for the origin of the genetic code: tracing the evolutionary pathways that gave rise to an optimized code |
| Date: 2009/04/26 08:18:42, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Voted Back Onto The Island?
If only he had stopped there!
Can someone please tell KF that Nakashima's last post on that thread is still available? Quoting it in full might help. Perhaps KF could tell us which part of the new moderation policy was implicitly latched by it? Nakashima would say that KF is now sounding like one of Job's friends - he must have done something wrong! |
| Date: 2009/04/26 08:36:28, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Long enough for T7 to comment on it.
That's gonna make it harder to disappear down the memory hole. The bottom line is that frilly shirts do not have the same level of rights as stuffed shirts. |
| Date: 2009/04/26 10:48:15, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima Forgoes Hunger Strike, Returns
Barry is captain of the scow, and Nakashima will be giving plenty of helpful driving directions from the back bench. Obviously, Nakashima is angling for eventual white box posting privileges. Perhaps he can fill the frilly shirted void left by Gil's departure. |
| Date: 2009/04/26 11:27:41, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Is anyone with an active sock on UD in moderation at the moment? |
| Date: 2009/04/27 13:45:47, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I think Joseph used to have a comment 192 on the Materialist poofery thread, which has evaporated. Just feces flinging, but a missed opportunity for Barry to show how 'even handed' he is. |
| Date: 2009/04/27 14:55:47, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
His neighbors are Neanderthals. They let their jumped up pond scum run all over his yard. |
| Date: 2009/04/27 15:06:04, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I can't believe Pavarotti would have banged Louis just because he reminded him of Boy George. PS - Happy Belated Birthday! Make us proud, and safe from H1N1 related terrors. |
| Date: 2009/04/28 14:04:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Stomping on PaulN defending ReMine is almost as fun as stomping ReMine!
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| Date: 2009/04/28 17:52:49, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
AKKK is DT, I think. His spleen is reserved for morphoDO'L and Clive. |
| Date: 2009/04/28 19:25:02, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I'm hoping for posts on AGW, or DDrr.. Dembski saying that the EF predicts Cavuto was gay - topics where the Scooter response is a known constant. Then we could measure the AKKK response against this standard. We also need to introduce stimuli such as clowns, stock market performance of computer manufacturers, and lesbian corporals. Inuit women need not apply. in re: koolaid, I would be honored to sample your koolaid if it is ice cold and 50 proof. what are your preferred ingredients? |
| Date: 2009/04/28 23:14:20, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
More AKKK = DT evidence. Der Scooter was a convinced front loader, who often argued flaw = design. |
| Date: 2009/04/28 23:52:40, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
As amusing as the prospect would be, I can't see Palin surviving a full primary season. She barely survived the time between the convention and the election. My bet for the Republican 2012 ticket? Bloomberg-Lieberman! |
| Date: 2009/04/29 00:07:12, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
He moved the Floating Command Center to Canada for the length of the Obama Administration! |
| Date: 2009/04/29 00:09:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Hold up on the koolaid big fella! Still a little while before the weekend... |
| Date: 2009/04/29 09:38:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Jerry:
This is the kind of stuff that makes me think Jerry is indeed a sock. "This what those other guys think, why don't we think that way?" Very Socratic method, very subtle. OTOH, Jerry is obsessed with ENCODE in a way that only a true denizen of UD can be. If this is deep cover, it is the deepest! PM me you magnificent bastard! |
| Date: 2009/04/29 10:16:41, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Pogo was definitely thinking of sockpuppetry when he said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us!" or as Louis the LOLcat might say, "I haz metz the ene-jerry, n he iz lolz!" |
| Date: 2009/04/29 11:07:53, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
J'accuse! Jerry is no Forrest Gump, but you, sir, are obviously feigning hyperskepticism to throw off the trail of self referential incoherence. |
| Date: 2009/04/29 17:58:59, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Nakashima on the ReMine thread pt 4
T7 alone seems to have gotten any of the humor. The SciAm reference (while relevant) might have been an attempt to draw out AKKK into a DT-like moment. |
| Date: 2009/04/30 10:30:20, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
There should be an "I am Spartacus!" thread where we can register proud ownership of socks. |
| Date: 2009/04/30 10:47:51, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Nakashima Has A Proof Text For His Version
Try the sushi, tip your geisha! I'll be here all week. |
| Date: 2009/04/30 15:46:50, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I love Marooned In Real Time! I have a friend who owns the oil painting used for the original hardcover cover art. Is there an SF thread on this board? I think more people associate the Singularity with Kurzweil than Vinge. |
| Date: 2009/04/30 17:38:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Has anyone volunteered to be weighed while dying? |
| Date: 2009/05/01 08:41:32, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Logic, as only Fafarman can do it (at 1 in the morning)
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| Date: 2009/05/01 08:48:07, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
To be fair to Clive (did I just say that?), Allen was being pretty asinine at that point, and later apologized. I think Allen has veered several times recently just to the line or maybe a squeek over it. I'm surprised he hasn't been warned/threatened. |
| Date: 2009/05/01 10:30:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Happiest. Birthday. Evar. |
| Date: 2009/05/01 11:07:22, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Don't worry Zachriel. They didn't laugh when Nakashima said it, either! |
| Date: 2009/05/01 23:33:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Reading the Dembski and Marks chapter, here are some points I see of interest (pp 1-14): everything that is intelligence is a search Equivocation on definition of information Chesterton quote! ack everything reduces to matter and electrochemistry Darwinian evolution is an efficient cause Acceptance of deep time rejection of front-loading:"There’s no sense in which human beings or any other multi-celled organisms are latent in single-celled organisms, much less in nonliving chemicals." oh so subtle connection of Darwin and Marx lol Dissing TE p7 first sighting of WEASEL!!1!one 1st probability faux pas: "If we tried to attain this target sequence by pure chance (for example, by randomly shaking out scrabble pieces consisting solely of letters and spaces), the probability of getting it on a given try would be around 1 in 10^40, and, correspondingly, it would take on average about 10^40 tries to stand a better than even chance of getting it." (s/b 10^20 on average!) Dembski finally gets it right!!! : "(iii) keep those newly formed sequences that match more letters in the target sequence, discarding the rest." target smuggled into fitness function yawn "There are only so many ways that matter can be configured to be alive and, once alive, only so many ways it can be configured to serve different biological functions." he assumes this number will be very small scary bignums 10^120 max queries available in the yooniverz Darwinian evolution is inefficient (duh) Heinz pagels “The only way to see evolution in action is to make computer models” wrong he never heard of acquired resistance ?? wow refers to MESA contra AVIDA, though no results have ever been published using the program. not just none that support his argument NONE AT ALL contradicts earlier quote of pagels "Lenski observed some small scale changes, but nothing remarkable." successful simulations cook the books quote of Miller re 'ev' information comes from selection information included in the fitness function is an input quote Brillouin begin LCI argument claim to define information measure in other papers "forthcoming" pure chance - the target is improbable, EA - the fitness function is improbable defining active information (very poorly and with imprecise terms) funtion theoretic version of Conservation of Information Theorem - a search that is hard for random search in some space can be mapped to a search that is easy for random search in another space, but choosing the mapping soaks up all the difficulty |
| Date: 2009/05/01 23:51:01, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Skipping forwards a lot, here is a choice quote from the conclusion of the paper.
Pure chemicals are high information chemicals. |
| Date: 2009/05/02 07:35:26, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Yes, and then do some hand waving to show that the physical environment doesn't contain information, so the information has to come from some infinite source which is coupled with the system to avoid infinite LCI Regress - aka God. |
| Date: 2009/05/02 07:40:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I detect a subtle goal post shift compared to earlier efforts. Did Dembski previously accept the power of evolution, just doubt the power to evolve complexity? That seems to be his position here. |
| Date: 2009/05/02 10:04:05, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Who is Robert Deyes, and why should I care about his opinions? I see in his Spontaneous Generation piece the polemic bookend to the preceding pseudo-scholarly Dembski posting. |
| Date: 2009/05/02 12:30:40, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Youse! (Which you must have heard on the A train, which ran even in 8 inches of snow!) |
| Date: 2009/05/02 12:32:00, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Son of the king - eet iz verry French |
| Date: 2009/05/02 12:43:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
A classic thread, especially the DS triumphalism. I wonder if that hotmail address of his ever worked? |
| Date: 2009/05/02 12:53:53, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Sal can spin himself any way he chooses. His current love affair with the Abel paper aligns nicely with this position, and he can always express private reservations that the details have not yet been worked out. For him this is all wink, wink, nudge, nudge creationism anyway. A guy like vjtorley, OTOH, might be pained. What is the point of quoting all those 'evolution can't do jack' websites about the eye if the Dear Leader is going this direction. We can only hope for a public break with real YECs like Paul Nelson, ICR, AIG, etc. |
| Date: 2009/05/02 16:01:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
AKKK had a comment obliviate on the Dembski Marks 2009 thread. Nakashima has memorialized it.
The original was pithier. |
| Date: 2009/05/03 00:37:21, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
On the upside, Barry does not banninate Marduk, or even threaten it. Props to Barry! On the down side, Barry, you lose on Godwin's Law ALL THE TIME! Did you talk this way in the Legislature? |
| Date: 2009/05/03 10:06:48, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Color me slow, I just twigged to the fact that TCS = The Country Shrink = Clive Hayden A sockpuppet on a blog he moderates, what does that say? |
| Date: 2009/05/03 18:52:30, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
You're right. Apologies to Clive. I think I've accused him several times of being The Country Shrink, but looking back at e-mail from last year, I have another name that should be associated with TCS. mea culpa |
| Date: 2009/05/04 09:46:02, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Jesus was pretty sure limbs wouldn't regenerate, otherwise he wouldn't have advocated chopping them off. |
| Date: 2009/05/06 17:03:40, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
How do you say <rimshot> in Japanese? Waitress wa, tippu o shimasu, onegaishimasu! |
| Date: 2009/05/08 14:05:41, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Design Inference! |
| Date: 2009/05/08 23:10:33, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
StephenB has nothing better to do than restate his arguments from the Shermer thread and hope everyone already forgot them. Since Mark Chu-Carroll was just doing temporal logic, Nakashima told me that he is tempted to drop some temporal symbolic logic on StephenB, since he is ueless-clay in that area. But with the great logician tied up with the Lord of the Flies, Nakashima gets to have a reasonable conversation with VJ Torley. Thanks, Beelzebub! |
| Date: 2009/05/09 12:07:30, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
The "Disappointed with Shermer" thread. |
| Date: 2009/05/09 17:35:41, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Causal Haiku How many cows could an uncaused cow cause if an uncaused could cause cows! Its got a kind of Hindu flavor, what with the uncaused cows. |
| Date: 2009/05/11 08:27:50, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima challenges KF to grow up
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| Date: 2009/05/11 09:51:01, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
On DO'L's latest thread he pops up and is immediately reminded why he is hiding.
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| Date: 2009/05/11 12:41:44, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Leslie's parable might not do much for the Fine Tuning Argument, it's explanatory power to theodicy is unmatched! "This is not me at my most sadistic, this is me at my most masochistic." |
| Date: 2009/05/11 13:50:01, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
The start of the paper criticized front loading, even if the phrase did crop up again later. I'm hoping he'll go the infinite-wavelength-photon route. It would be cool if he tried to demonstrate that the universe is not a closed system, that the total amount of information in it is actually increasing (as demonstrated by increasing complexity and bio-diversity) and this is due to the direct intervention of the Designer. I've been wondering if we are in the middle of a big goal-post shift within the ID movement. Previous moves Bible -> Creation Science Creation Science -> ID "evolution doesn't work" -> "micro, not macro" and now "Sure evolution works, by active information provided telicly by the Designer. Conservation laws do not apply to the Universe." |
| Date: 2009/05/12 23:43:44, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Jerry deepens his cover
Jerry, you frikkin brilliant bastid - PM me! |
| Date: 2009/05/15 04:56:22, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
He showed up earlier on the "Grill the IDiot" thread. It was my first time seeing the name. Is he an internet classic tard? |
| Date: 2009/05/18 11:43:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
On the Sternberg Not A Baptist thread
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| Date: 2009/05/19 08:32:40, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
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I think the DI is missing out on attacking the most subversive Darwinist voice of the 20th Century. Cole Porter.
and even more directly
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| Date: 2009/05/19 11:01:26, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Gene for Memes? Sounds like a Dawkins question. God - that guy has to have hair on His palms by now... |
| Date: 2009/05/19 17:31:58, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Scooter
So when AmeriKKK said he was ditching UD, it was just to shed the chrysalis. Davey, if it is really you, work the words "morph" and "dike" into your next post on an O'Leay thread. We know you want to... |
| Date: 2009/05/19 18:19:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Since "fewer and fewer people believe in Darwinism" according to DO'L, it really is amazing the influence that the Darwinist Illuminati have over the media. It's a good thing their Wedge document was never leaked. |
| Date: 2009/05/19 20:42:33, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Cole Porter song = Intelligent Design! |
| Date: 2009/05/20 13:15:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
He didn't say which military. TEACHING DARWINISM TO THE IRAQI REVOLUTIONARY GUARD DOES'NT COUNT! - dt |
| Date: 2009/05/21 07:39:56, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
Not In My Back Yard!  I saw these guys when I was walking on the grounds of Bertramka, last Saturday. Bertramka is in the Smichov suburb of Prague, just across the Vltava River. Bertramka is famous for Mozart having stayed there during his visits to Prague. He finished Don Giovanni there. In any case, these reminded me more of African masks than Mozart. Anyone know what they are? |
| Date: 2009/05/21 23:46:21, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
You skipped the intervening boot lick by Clive
Of course , the question still stands, how did Madsen abuse the privilege? |
| Date: 2009/05/21 23:57:42, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Thanks, i found this
With picture at this shieldbug website. |
| Date: 2009/05/22 11:57:56, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
And for "sciency" communication, even better! Perhaps that is why DO'L is going to the Canadian Science Writers Association conference. |
| Date: 2009/05/22 13:41:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Jerry gets snarky, with deterministic results
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| Date: 2009/05/22 15:56:45, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I'm not sure how much baseball Jerry knows if he thinks Bill Buckner's trouble fielding makes Nakashima a Sox fan. Perhaps Heddle can straighten him out. Perhaps Jerry is a sockHeddle! That would be deep cover. We know Lou FCD can run two socks at once. He might be Jerry and Joseph. (I did consider running a second sock, just so I'd have someone to talk to.) |
| Date: 2009/05/22 16:06:54, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| ...and then Barry's next post has comments turned off. I think Barry would feel more comfortable moderating Evolution News and Views. I wonder if Barry has a fantasy about retrying KvD with himself as the lead TMLC attorney. Strangely, I have a similar fantasy. |
| Date: 2009/05/22 21:47:03, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
No. I want to see BARRY sink IDC! |
| Date: 2009/05/23 16:15:29, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Either he meant implore or he thinks Nakashima-san can be tried in the Senate for treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors, or pounding ID into the mud. |
| Date: 2009/05/23 20:04:52, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Is Saint StephenB aware that not all people agree that the NT is right about these things? I'm not sure where the 459 number came up. I can't find it with Google fingers. There appear to be lists of 100 or 300 approx. Obviously, the NT writers were attempting to align J's life with as many proof texts as possible. You can make Obama the Messiah using that strategy. Heck, you can probably make Osama the Messiah that way. Was this UD thread supposed to be about sciencyness or truthiness? |
| Date: 2009/05/25 08:37:35, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Khan, are you in the US? Wondering if you read the crap, if so how much of an Obama is the anti-christ mania it has in it. I just got spam from a business associate (!) about vispace, which seems to be an MLM scam. My sister is a witch, but she doesn't pitch woo at me. |
| Date: 2009/05/25 13:37:40, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima has tried to talk to Uptight BiTard about "physically inert symbol systems" and "chance operating at maximum uncertainty". The first might be derived from Newell and Simon. |
| Date: 2009/05/26 10:37:42, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I haven't seen JAD posting on UD for a while. Is he still erupting on other sites, or is he completely offline? |
| Date: 2009/05/26 11:19:37, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I haz confuze. How does Sherburne 1966 quote Whitehead 1979? |
| Date: 2009/05/26 11:40:08, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
:O I got this very strong Bates Motel vibe out of the interaction of JAD/VM over there! |
| Date: 2009/05/26 18:52:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
What is her name? |
| Date: 2009/05/28 17:47:34, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Digging backwards into the references from the first Abel paper which Uptight Spoonfed has quoted, trying to find where this idiosyncratic jargon comes from, I'm led to HH Pattee. Here's a sample from the Physics of Symbols:
My strong feeling is, here is another guy not really comfortable with 20th Century physics, who'd rather ignore QM, the Uncertainty Principle, etc. My take from this paragraph is that he feels that if we can't measure these initial conditions, the laws themselves don't make sense. |
| Date: 2009/05/29 07:23:16, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It is a Rutgers course, I was hoping Jerry Fodor was the prof, but it is some Asst Prof in the English dept. who can't get the difference between 1800's and eighteenth century. |
| Date: 2009/05/29 09:43:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
BUT HAV U PLAYED 1 ON TV??!!1! HA DARWINIST INUIT SKIRTCHASER -dt |
| Date: 2009/05/30 13:22:48, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I PUT IT BACK WHAIR I FOUND IT, CLEANED OFF THE CHEEZZY POOFS THIS TIME, LEFT THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION AND TOOK THE MICE OUT OF THE BLENDER - WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT !!11!1 - dvk |
| Date: 2009/05/31 14:41:31, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Hi Crister, The dis can get somewhat coarse, but you won't get banned unless you threaten to hack the site. FtK has flounced out of her own choice. As you may notice, she has her own thread, so not likely that she was banned, eh? Don't be so egotistical that you deserve what you have not earned! Stick around, make lots of comments, and you too may follow in the footsteps of Denial Smith, FtK, etc. In the meantime, we need more Swedish poontang so if you've got pictures of your sister, start posting them. PZ Myers has some great posts on why the vagina is proof of design. |
| Date: 2009/05/31 19:21:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Just post those pictures of your sister. |
| Date: 2009/06/01 08:45:13, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Look, a quick Google search would told her the answer in, like 0.005 seconds. My search on "Satan" returned 30 milion hits in 0.21 second, and the first was the Wikipedia entry!! How simple is that! Truly, there is no excuse for the woman's ignorance of who she was dealing with. In the KJV, she has twenty one words (plus spaces and punctuation!) between when the serpent shows up, and when he starts talking. She could have been reading the commentary. She had time to call the Garden of Eden Better Business Bureau! All wasted. God is just, her ignorance was willful. GERM of TIKI |
| Date: 2009/06/01 08:51:09, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Walking into a gay bar wearing a frilly shirt being one of those circumstances. |
| Date: 2009/06/01 23:41:16, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
This is why labs have ethics committees! Horizontal gene transfer like this can only be handled in a TardMat Level 5 Containment Facility. My advice to you - destroy all the samples you may have already created. Make sure no fiber samples are adhering to any lab surface. If there is any sign of a containment breach (lab coats suddenly growing frills or becoming overly large), call the CDC. They have teams specially equipped to wash down the lab with a solution containing nylon eating bacteria. (You may need the 50% nylon 45% rayon 5% spandex eating bacteria if you were dealing with certain frill lines.) |
| Date: 2009/06/02 22:46:25, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Atom might be a Moonie, so the remark may have hit close to home. |
| Date: 2009/06/03 13:37:05, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
as cool as Bill Dembski Said without a trace of irony. Onlookers, how is that possible? ETA - ok, sigs don't get quoted. |
| Date: 2009/06/03 14:12:07, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima
Jiu to the Fu to the StephenB, he's kicking your butt with epistemology! |
| Date: 2009/06/03 15:20:54, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Omedeto! Now you will learn the value of in-laws. Take advantage of their charity and continue to ignore everything they say. |
| Date: 2009/06/03 16:19:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Another great Bill Cosby line! |
| Date: 2009/06/03 16:36:00, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Brilliance is just one of the services we provide. Feel free to ask about our package deal on brilliance and condescension, and other great limited time offers. i hava patend on that darwinoid!!1! shit where is thephone yur heering from my lawyer in the morning11! -dt and Louis, the staff od the Floating Command Center salut yu!!1 if it wasnt inuit poon, the kid is human don worry -dt again |
| Date: 2009/06/04 12:31:14, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Hmm, I'm going to have to skim it again. I didn't see "efficiency" the first time through. I'm pretty sure mice had a highly efficient FoxP2 gene and cortical neurons for their niche. If they are less jittery and more thoughtful mice, thay are worse mice, no matter what that tells us about humans. |
| Date: 2009/06/04 12:38:35, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
That is the SLoT - Second Law of TARD. The First Law of TARD is that TARD in motion will remain TARD, and TARD at rest will remain TARD. |
| Date: 2009/06/04 22:24:24, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
All their sock are belong to you! |
| Date: 2009/06/04 22:45:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
From the latest O'Dreary Sexual Repression Contest thread:
then why Clinton get it for free while Spitzer had to pay!!1! Clinton cud get any poon he wanned even Hilary! -dt AS IF -dt again |
| Date: 2009/06/05 14:10:01, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
On the C Hunter thread:
Which will Paul choose? Which would you choose? |
| Date: 2009/06/05 22:01:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
By their TARD you shall know them:
And the original article. And O'Leary's own blog entry at Post-Darwinist! |
| Date: 2009/06/05 22:33:17, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
It is easy, every time Nakashima posts, he thinks, WWJD? |
| Date: 2009/06/06 10:25:36, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
oh, wait... |
| Date: 2009/06/06 18:51:45, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Its odd. You'd figure he would prefer to be slapped around in private than be humiliated in front of his mates at UD. |
| Date: 2009/06/06 20:03:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Evidence of youth or basement dwelling? What is the design inference? |
| Date: 2009/06/07 06:40:56, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
if carnivores had figured that one out they would eat the outside of a sheep not the inside, Darwinist!!1! -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/07 09:19:22, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Nakashima recommended that Gil do just that! The first hit of googling "evolution avian lung" is a discussion of that O'Connor paper. |
| Date: 2009/06/07 10:42:51, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
but is there spanking first? |
| Date: 2009/06/07 12:57:45, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Naughty Zoot! |
| Date: 2009/06/08 14:08:38, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima applies for the court jester position at UD
While harsh satire can lead to bannination, we have yet to see what will happen to prolonged periods of bemused giggling. Maybe AtBC memes are tunneling through to the other side. I personally can't wait for BA^77 to write "PM 'Ras, you magni^ficient bas^tard"! |
| Date: 2009/06/08 16:01:14, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
sure going for both is probably even legal in whatever darwinist police state you liv in, the sovereign state of Louis's Closet! Issuing stamps of sweaty Welshers in red dresses wrestling Inuit as a way of raising currency to be spent on that WMart classic combo of beer and diapers! ha!!1! which is for which have you figgered that out yet! thoought not -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/08 16:09:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Onlookers, note the attempt, feeble and febrile, to reorient the attention of the bystanders at the Clapham bus stop from the atheist ad on the side of the bus, the one that states "I'm Jerry, Be Happy". |
| Date: 2009/06/08 21:40:27, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Hey, I just noticed the Authors list on the UD page. Was that always there? OLeary has recently overtaken DaveS as the second most prolific author. That must burn! |
| Date: 2009/06/09 07:09:19, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Meanwhile, at Baylor University's Harrington House Faculty Dining, Dr G. Baylor Finch chooses
Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, all is chicken fried vanity. |
| Date: 2009/06/09 11:47:43, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Perhaps the Voynich Manuscript is the source of O'Leary's blog entries. If so, most of it can be translated as "Buy My Book!" |
| Date: 2009/06/09 13:10:54, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
If the Spanish original was published in 2007, his research may have begun in 2004, motivated in part by Gilder's book on Brahe and Kepler. That would put the DI at the height of their pre KvD boasting, with Prez GW Shrub endorsing the intelligent design concept in August 2005. In that era the plot points about the DI's links to the gummamint start to make sense. Voynich Manuscript is a really tough nut to crack! I read a lot about it a couple years ago when I was more into cryptography. I don't think it is a hoax, more like an early TIMECUBE. The connection to Drebbel is interesting to me. ETA clarity |
| Date: 2009/06/09 14:41:30, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
As O'Leary can say it...
Beckwith's name is not in the UD Author list. Was it disappeared? I cannot find a reference to it. I think a better analogy would be to say "I don't agree with Holocaust Denial, I just think it is ok to teach." But than I would lose via an appeal to Godwin. |
| Date: 2009/06/09 19:49:14, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Louis, The most valuable internationally traded commodity is oil, the second is coffee. (Just counting legal ones, here) With your help, we can take the number one spot! |
| Date: 2009/06/09 21:06:01, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima goes for the nuclear option AKA The Sound Of Phillip Johnson's Head Assploding
This should be good for 10K words from KairosBlabbermouth. |
| Date: 2009/06/10 18:29:17, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Were his midi-chlorians checked at birth? |
| Date: 2009/06/11 22:04:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I think Nakashima was angling for his own invitation to meet Mighty Joe G. Can you imagine them meeting for sushi, beer, and karaoke? |
| Date: 2009/06/11 23:07:16, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Can you say agit prop, kultur kampf, or Father Coughlin with training wheels? |
| Date: 2009/06/12 14:24:42, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
For the Bibble-challenged among us:
cue bannination for accusing DO'L of adultery in 5, 4, ... |
| Date: 2009/06/12 17:54:35, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Ruben's group at OSU has been a hold out against birds being dinos for a long time. So now their position is "theropods that developed in parallel with dinos." Meh. YECs will happily latch on to any controversy, ignoring the time scale and other areas of agreement among the scientists to only highlight the lack of consensus. |
| Date: 2009/06/12 23:57:21, Link | ||||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||||
Nakashima neologizes in round 2 with O'leary
The big owwie:
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| Date: 2009/06/13 00:12:07, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Umm, what happened to Model-View-Controller? The idea that the model is costrained by the UI is pretty scary. |
| Date: 2009/06/13 10:21:49, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I thought Kellogg got Joe G agitated? Is this guy hot or what?? :) Speaking of Mighty Joe G... In the "twisty maze of little passage, all alike" category, here are some of the twists taken by Joe on the subject of macroevolution: Joe: there is no evidence for macroevolution Reality based Commenters: sure there is Joe: No RBC: what about plants? Joe: there is no evidence of macro-evolution in plants RBC: what about X? Joe: Even YECs know that plants do not reproduce after their kind, so plants don't count RBC: YECs don't say that, the Bible doesn't say that Joe: <chirping> RBC: as we were discussing macro-evolution earlier... Joe: there is no evidence for macro-evolution RBC: even plants? Joe: only animals count in a discussion of macro-evolution RBC: SRSLY? Joe: there is no evidence of plant macro-evolution RBC: but you previously said plant macro-evolution was allowed even by YECs Joe: there is no evidence of plant macro-evolution RBC: how about this two gene mutation? Joe: I have a call into AiG to say if that is enough to qualify for a new species RBC: How about calling your local botany professor? Joe: you're not using the right definition of macro-evolution RBC: this would be macro-evolution even according to the YEC definition Joe: your definition isn't debated enough RBC: so what? Joe: this is only speciation, not macro-evolution RBC: both definitions include speciation in macro-evolution Joe: <chirping> Joe was getting simultaneously pwned on the subject of whether behavior was subject to selection. His willingness to stake a claim based on no apparent knowledge has led to many amusing exchanges. |
| Date: 2009/06/13 12:27:17, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
More to the point of their fears, non-gay-ness won't disappear either! since bill dumped me for that canado-morph, the only poofs i car about are cheezy. screw her and the horse that rode in on her. yep, evrthing manly her at the FCM! call me bill bill she's no good for you!!1! semper fi bill, BFF shit now im crying -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/13 23:44:02, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Andrew Sibley quotemines in classic UD fashion but somehow misses this from two pages earlier in the same publication - a bona fide reference to UD itself!
The "cherished icons" quote is from Barb @2 in this post by PaulN. I can't find a clear use of the second quote on UD. It might be a misquote of anonym on a Gil Dodgen thread, but is more likely a slight misquote of Science After Sunclipse summarizing a talk by Dawkins. What did DDrr.. Dembski say? They're having an impact! |
| Date: 2009/06/15 12:55:10, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Wiki says she ordered directly from him. He started his firm in Paris in 1775. The firm sold to Churchill. |
| Date: 2009/06/15 16:37:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Anything in particular about UD that is making you feel this way, or do you need new filters in your TARD mask? lock yourself in the bathroom, go ahead <-- get it! i keel myself sometimes full of nuatical humer on the FCM tonitw!!1! back to the show Darwinist! you can get puky when ID is the ruling paramidg paragidm paradmg paradimn fuckit YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!1 -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/16 23:35:20, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I think Dembski's latest notvertisement (Buy My Book In The Future!) went from No Comments to Comments Off. Did he obliviate anything or just chicken out? |
| Date: 2009/06/17 14:29:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Speciation through a single base mutation |
| Date: 2009/06/17 20:05:15, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
how do they know what they looklike?! huh?? answer that darwinist!!1! no pocket mirrors in the Malay jungle besides both subspecies actually preferred the BLOND flycatchers, even ones with dark roots ha i kill myself "flycatchers" who is gonna believe that anyway sounds gay and gays species go extinct faster than debbie gibson's hairstyle -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/17 22:53:44, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
From the Joseph Campbell thread
Why, folks would pay money and stop burning churches to watch a conversation between Jerry, Ras and Bob O'H |
| Date: 2009/06/19 11:38:05, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
If the sun really did orbit the Earth in one day from a distance of 93 million miles, what would its orbital velocity be? Faster than the speed of light? Faster than an unladen swallow? African or European? |
| Date: 2009/06/19 19:39:09, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
she was holding them teh smae way Bill uesd to do,making me beg for the bannination stick HOW COULD I RESIST!!1! -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/19 19:44:35, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima the Accounting Major (from the Signature thread)
it only takes 10 cuz that is how many fingerz the designer had, Inuit skirt chaser! -dt |
| Date: 2009/06/19 19:57:19, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Hunter says something sig-worthy
and Nakashima takes the bait
(from the Answers to Judge Jones thread) |
| Date: 2009/06/20 08:52:58, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I think you need some more explicit Xian theology mangling, try this: Before the fall, all the genes were in the correct kind of animal, but because of Eve's sin, God mixed them up. It is the same process He used at the Tower of Babel - a dramatic increase in entropy as a punishment. DGSEs are trying to rebuild jigsaw puzzle. The natural world has to be ready for the Second Coming. The return of Logos will return the natural world to the order that existed before the Fall. Like a perfect shuffle returning a deck of cards to their original order. We think all of these viral waves around the world are diseases, they are not - they are those last few random seeming shuffles before the massive reshuffling of the End Times. |
| Date: 2009/06/20 09:41:50, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Extending the lifetime of the biosphere Thes folks argue that life naturally reduces the partial pressure of nitrogen over time by sequestering it. Is that right? |
| Date: 2009/06/21 22:11:09, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Do you remember the part of Annie Hall where Woody Allen pulls Marshall MacLuhan out from behind a potted plant? I was tempted to do the same thing on the long running tardfest that started with Cornelius Hunter readting to Barbara Forrest, by actually getting Dr Forrest to comment. Sadly, intercessory prayer did not work in this case either. |
| Date: 2009/06/21 22:26:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
From the MEDAL (Missouri Estimation of Distribution Algorithms Laboratory blog
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| Date: 2009/06/22 18:06:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Herb on the mockumentary thread
Mmm doctrine! The documentary filmmaker's friend! Without doctrine, how would you know what you want your victims to say? |
| Date: 2009/06/22 18:09:23, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
That is probably why Nakashima brought it up! |
| Date: 2009/06/23 07:32:22, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
Actually, GEM's 'always linked' page no longer contains his name.
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| Date: 2009/06/23 15:07:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
herb protects the religious from the evil Cornelius Hunter
Somebody's socks are showing. |
| Date: 2009/06/25 10:07:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I assume you mean the scaling of fitness by total population fitness used in routlette selection, correct? I'm not following the dissection of MA, is work_fitness being used to drive a selection algorithm? If so, the division by rnd() is equivalent to assuming that all selection takes place after a night of drinking heavily. Roulette selection assumes that details don't matter - of several equally snappily dressed men at the bar, the one with the clean fingernails will not be selected much more frequently than the rest with dirty fingernails. Is this "realistic"? What does MA assume about sexual selection? A lot of GAs use tournament selection to maintain a more constant selection pressure. I think you could argue that tournament selection models some part of the sexual selection process. ETA - or give users a choice of selection algorithm. |
| Date: 2009/06/25 16:40:54, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Put me down for $10 on "deaf/mute". |
| Date: 2009/06/26 15:29:33, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
He's taken to numbering paragraphs, a la KF(SCI). Still needs to add a Lewontin quote at the end. |
| Date: 2009/06/28 11:50:30, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Apropos of some repeated questions on UD about how a code can evolve, I had been reading up on aminoacyl tRNA synthetase. These are the proteins that actually connect the triplets with the correct amino acid. I found it interesting that there are 20 of these, not 64. Does anyone here know if this fact has any implication for the order in which the code was developed? |
| Date: 2009/06/28 18:24:06, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Aminoacyl tRNA Synthetase page and following pages also |
| Date: 2009/06/29 11:25:31, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I was there, too. But at the time, I was the baby. |
| Date: 2009/06/29 17:30:36, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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An update on the Steyr 2007 paper: Evolution and the second law of thermodynamics the money quote
Steyr 2007 was blogged by PZ Myers, which was picked up by PT. This paper tries to be a bit more rigorous, even though there is still a lot of hand waving in parts. Nakashima mentioned the paper on UD, with no apparent response. |
| Date: 2009/06/30 21:34:17, Link | ||||||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||||||
Who is Buchanan quoting in that Hitler paragraph? |
| Date: 2009/06/30 21:36:45, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Nakashima notes the disturbing trend in poll results on ID. Those gullible American voters are falling for evolution! |
| Date: 2009/07/01 16:57:50, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
UD inspired poetry, Nakashima style!
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| Date: 2009/07/01 17:03:42, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
I think St. FNB is far down the KvD trail blazed by Larry Fafarman. Screw the principles of right reason, this is frothy mouthed monomania, front and center. |
| Date: 2009/07/02 13:03:42, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
On the Flont Roading post, the Scooter sock tries some ethnic flava on Nakashima
N-san turns the other cheek, and gets in some ninja kicks to the head.
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| Date: 2009/07/02 13:12:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Are you saying that Poythress is the user Flex on Wikipedia? I think it is against Wiki rules to write your own page. |
| Date: 2009/07/02 13:34:48, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
It actually means "it was nothing" or "don't mention it", but your translation may be more appropriate in this case. |
| Date: 2009/07/02 23:51:57, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I'm glad you found the analogy helpful! in re: field work and observation - piss poor at the moment. The result of living in New Jersey while dating a Czech supermodel that lives in Prague. |
| Date: 2009/07/03 09:40:08, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Happy Birthday! Nakashima adds, Tanjobi Omedeto! typicl Darwinist trying pass off Kafka's b1rthday as his own!!1! how fucking appropriate is that i ask you!1 glad u ddn't invite me to the party, i herd there was a clown as gust of honor -dt |
| Date: 2009/07/03 11:10:56, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Any single woman in new York City could tell you that all the desirable men were either gay or taken. |
| Date: 2009/07/03 13:37:16, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Is Nnoel banned? I thought I saw a "Goodbye" from Clive. |
| Date: 2009/07/03 13:39:39, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Too bad about Scott. He started out posting reasonable, if somewhat condescending comments. We'll see if he can stay away or if this turns into a frilly shirted nadios! |
| Date: 2009/07/03 18:00:19, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Did we previously know that Jerry's last name was Cosgrove? |
| Date: 2009/07/03 18:13:19, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
[QUOTE]Jeremiah “Jerry” Cosgrove Jerry Cosgrove, former AFT Northeast Regional Director, recently was named Deputy Commissioner for the New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets, where his program responsibilities include agriculture development, farmland conservation and dairy issues. Cosgrove joined AFT when then Governor Mario Cuomo signed into law the Agricultural Protection Act of 1992, an act that Cosgrove would work tirelessly to implement, fund and subsequently improve. During his tenure with AFT, Jerry stewarded numerous legislative efforts in New York including the Farmers' School Tax Credit, funding for the state's Purchase of Development Rights (PDR) program, and he expanded AFT’s programs with partners such as the Watershed Agricultural Council. Cosgrove is a recognized expert in the area of farm estate planning and conservation easements on farmland. While with AFT, Cosgrove used his expertise to author numerous publications, and he was instrumental in building support for American Farmland Trust’s farmland preservation, farm policy and conservation programs. [CODE] Now that is deep cover. Sail on o' sock of state. Farm estate planning in particular. |
| Date: 2009/07/03 22:51:21, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Didn't Jerry used to talk about his experience with livestock - dairy cattle in particular? I thought that came up a couple times during his "all scientists are doing ID research, they just don't know it" period. |
| Date: 2009/07/05 21:42:09, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Does anyone subscribe to the UD RSS feed? I'm wondering how many unique posters there have been in the last month. Barrogant is MIA. They brought in Deyes and Hunter but Hunter is just phoning it in. KF and Bussel are on vacation, hiking the Appalachian. Echo chamber is getting real echoey... |
| Date: 2009/07/06 10:37:04, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Has anyone fessed up to being Nnoel? |
| Date: 2009/07/06 12:19:53, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Thinking about the problem of evolving a code, I just wanted to bounce some ideas off of anyone that wants to answer... Here is a genome design: 6*26 bits of data to build a phenotype, followed by 64*8 bits of coding table The coding table works like this. Each entry contains an 8 bit string. Each 8 bit string mapt to a list of affinities to a subset of 32 characters: 127 -> 20% A, 40% F, 40% J This table of affinities would be salted with entries that guarantee A-Z have some entry with high affinity. The GA works like any binary coded GA. To create a phenotype, run the data section of the genome through the code table 6 bits at a time. The 6 bits are like the three codons in DNA, mRNA, and tRNA. Taken as an index, they give an 8 bit value. The 8 bit value gives a set of affinities, and you spin the roulette wheel to see which letter you get. That letter is the phenotypic expression of the 6 bits you started with. Continue to loop until you've finished the data section of the genome. To score a phenotype, compare with the string A .. Z and take the sum of the squared error at each position (ex target D, actual A, error is 3). I think that if it works, you'll eventually get a population with the code table filled with at least one copy of each high affinity 8 bit string. Comments? Is choosing 32 useful entries out of 256 too easy or too hard? |
| Date: 2009/07/06 12:44:46, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
5 BTW, the BBS software did not allow a single character post. |
| Date: 2009/07/06 13:35:43, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
The affinities are my way to model the situation that tRNA molecules could evolve from molecules that accepted any of several amino acids before getting more specific. Right now there is still one tRNA that will accept two different AAs, but instead of evolving a more specific acceptor, the system fixes up errors after they occur. We're aiming to do different things, so I don't see a conceptual overlap between your bigram and trigram tables and what I was conjecturing. I think what you are doing is using a Hidden Markov Model to evolve phoneme level utterances. I think Chomsky showed that human language is more than an HMM, but as you said, Behe doesn't think evolution can even do that much! ETA - I take your point on the scoring. I thought of taking the data portion out of the genome, and just testing it against various strings, but I think going against a fixed target might be a simple first test of the idea. |
| Date: 2009/07/06 13:55:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Spores Spill Evolution's Secrets
I'm guessing Mendel's Accountant doesn't do partial penetrance. |
| Date: 2009/07/06 14:02:06, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
KF on modeling
Who might this be referring to? |
| Date: 2009/07/06 16:27:21, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Yes, your system would stump the level 0 critic because you don't have a target hard coded that looks exactly like a population member. The level 1 critic would say that the bigram and trigram table is hard coded, and that your system is rewarding population members that have the same frequency distributions as the table. That is your target. |
| Date: 2009/07/06 17:13:16, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Not sure if Joe knows it has been done already. In 1970.
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| Date: 2009/07/06 21:59:19, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I'm getting 404 when I try to access this page. OK, it was lame. And not even first on the page. |
| Date: 2009/07/07 10:42:48, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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My Elvis/Jacko/Kissinger/Bertrand Russell number is 8! Not 8 factorial!!1! Gnash your teeth in the outer darkness, irrelevant ones! my cheezy poof/Dembski/Michael Dell number is -1 -dt |
| Date: 2009/07/07 12:16:56, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Errr, no. That was what the whole latching kerfuffle was about! |
| Date: 2009/07/07 14:33:23, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
All 'physically inert' really means if you push him on it is that one codon does not force the choice of the next codon in the DNA sequence. |
| Date: 2009/07/07 14:39:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Sorry, Bacon-Nobel numbers follow Bose-Einstein statistics, so only integer values are allowed. |
| Date: 2009/07/07 16:43:30, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Fuck, dude, don't scare me like that! Here I was expecting HA HA THIS IS YOU! and all of a sudden its a logistic equation right between the eyes like stepping on a rake. That said, all I could find with 30 seconds of Google was WHEC2006.xls, and not even that - just the PDF of the guy's paper and his email address. |
| Date: 2009/07/07 17:27:11, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I think one of us, if I may be so bold as to include myself in this august company, should volunteer to do a guest post at UD, in order to relieve Granville of his discomfort. |
| Date: 2009/07/07 22:46:01, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Yo, Keiths, King of Socks! Did you ever have a sock called Morpheus over at UD? |
| Date: 2009/07/09 12:35:20, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima channels Fred Hoyle, or something
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| Date: 2009/07/09 13:28:54, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Newsroom Lingo to help you fill the combox. My question - does she have the quart of scotch in the desk drawer that every old newsie has?* *Even Russell Crowe has this in the "State of Play" movie.** **I much preferred the BBC mini-series, and thought it very entertaining how everyone drank like a fish, in contrast to the American version.*** ***Does everyone in Britain drink that much or just the newshounds? |
| Date: 2009/07/10 07:02:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Zachriel, can you post your code somewhere? It would help me understand it better to walk though it. Thanks! |
| Date: 2009/07/10 08:00:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
KannotFocus
I think it will surprise DK that he is a representative of the Anti Evo agenda! |
| Date: 2009/07/10 10:51:40, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Boy titties aren't going go very far, maybe you should ask the distaff members for cover. |
| Date: 2009/07/10 14:27:40, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Sorry, distaff means female, a least if you speak en-archaic. I was attempting to suggest that 'Ras would get better tittie coverage from Maya, Kristine, Khan, Amanda, ERV, etc. than Arden, Louis, etc. |
| Date: 2009/07/10 22:56:09, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Man, o man! A conference of LIBRARIANS!!1! The halls overflowing with ladies in starched white shirts, tight skirts, Sarah Palin up-dos and glasses. Each night easily inebriated packs of them descend on male strip joints, shouldering aside the gay clientele and bachlorette parties, to throw their white Playtex bras onto the stage. Why does Chicago have all the luck? |
| Date: 2009/07/11 09:30:47, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
You could move the Extinction test up to right after generating stats, right? After Phenotypic Fitness, you know there are no more population members. It's trivial, and this does look very clean! |
| Date: 2009/07/14 04:32:42, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima gives away a Haeckel quote.
Sure to appear in a KannotFocus megamissive (repeatedly) in the near future. Recall that while KF used the Lewontin quote earlier, he had no idea of its provenance until Nakashima gave it to him. Wikipedia has this on Haeckel:
I wonder if DI will ever try to connect Haeckel's prediction with Shubin's find of Tiktaalik. It is not clear if Haeckel was lucky or right. Still, anything to tar Tiktaalik with the shame of ol' polygenist racist art forger Haeckel. |
| Date: 2009/07/16 06:35:51, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Does someone have handy the link to that paper that discusses the functional properties of randomly assembled proteins? I think it has been mentioned here within the last 2-3 months. Thanks! |
| Date: 2009/07/16 07:27:52, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
KF is hoist on his own FCSI
Granted, that is a crappy way to write an IPD system, but it makes the case. |
| Date: 2009/07/16 09:25:00, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Yes, thank you! My Google-fu had failed me... |
| Date: 2009/07/16 11:42:41, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Which reply was duly anticipated by Nakashima! Now he is pushed into agreeing with GilD. You can tell KF is out of his comfort zone because his follow-up reply is short. As soon as he figures out how to fit this question into his system, he'll be back to multipoint posts. |
| Date: 2009/07/17 07:34:02, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Just for giggles, I tried to think through what kind of solution this GA would find. Each iteration is actually independent, there is no use of memory. The population should have 50% of each of Cooperate and Defect at each locus. That should be enough to sweep towards Cooperate at every locus. |
| Date: 2009/07/17 13:50:04, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Anyone have a good reason for O'L's sudden bloggorhea? Was she behind (ahem) on her quota? I still find it hard to believe she gets paid to snark about random science. I went and read some of the UD archive from April 2005 this week. Wanted to see how it all began. 2nd post, DDrr.. Dembski is quoting Wes Elsberry! 5th post, waving the ban hammer and making the last honest post about the moderation policy. Ah, the good old days! |
| Date: 2009/07/17 13:56:34, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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Nakashima pointed out (on the recent Signature of the Cell thread by Deyes) that the quote of TH Huxley was inaccurate at best. From looking around at other sites where the book is being flogged, it seems that comparing himself favorably to Huxley is part of Meyer's standard patter. But he is also helping drive home the point that evolution is not about abiogenesis.
The entire interview is amusing, conflating Darwinism and Marxism, undermining the American ideal, etc. |
| Date: 2009/07/17 14:49:31, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I just found an early use of the phrase "intelligent design"
From "The Story of the Living Machine", by Herbert William Conn, 1904 Does anyone keep a list of these? This one does not appear in the Wikipedia page section on origins of the term. |
| Date: 2009/07/17 15:19:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
True, I just changed something on the Miller-Urey page today. Since this isn't a first use, I don't think it significant enough to warrant adding there. But if somebody is a collector, I wanted to offer it up. |
| Date: 2009/07/18 08:04:22, Link | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||||||||||||||
But Nakashima is already beating him around the head again. KF's responses have been quite slow and tentative for him during this exchange. |
| Date: 2009/07/18 11:32:29, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
JG -RM, hoist on his own diaper. Nakashima is being charitable, and trying to clue KF into the next set of issues - selection is driven not by absolute phenotypic fitness, but by relative fitness.
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| Date: 2009/07/18 16:37:30, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| The current display of pastafarian emblems in the ad box at UD is just too funny a juxtaposition! |
| Date: 2009/07/18 19:19:00, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
How can Marsupial Byers be lured onto an O'Leary thread? TARD densities rarely seen outside the laboratory may result. The elusive D_ may be sighted, unbound to either the T, A, or R particles. Are TARDons fermions or bozons may finally be resolved. |
| Date: 2009/07/18 22:47:36, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima, I'm not sure UD is ready for this. |
| Date: 2009/07/18 23:22:46, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
If he promised to never quote either Lewis or Chesterton, that might raise CB's blood pressure. |
| Date: 2009/07/19 09:42:18, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
This may have been discussed at UD already. I brought it up here about a month ago on the Science Break thread, I think. but they'er stil not dinosaurs!!1! -ds |
| Date: 2009/07/19 13:32:42, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| But what is the reason that Dembski has supported O'Leary for so long? OE, Design of Life blog, now UD, suffering death by O'Leary kudzu. He has been her main paycheck for years, just passed her 3rd anniversary on UD. |
| Date: 2009/07/19 15:45:29, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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As O'Leary dominates the Entries column, Nakashima dominates the Comments column. Just a fisking of KF in multiple posts... :p |
| Date: 2009/07/19 17:55:25, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Has he posted anything, entry or comment, in 3 months? Absentee landlord. In any case, he doesn't write the checks. DO'L is paid by DI or whoever wants her to keep the blog farm turning over. |
| Date: 2009/07/19 22:03:00, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
They've rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible? That is an ex-dinosaur! -ds |
| Date: 2009/07/19 22:43:06, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Everybody send your sock over there to vote for Nakashima for posting privileges. His campaign bus is heading for New Hampshire and he needs your support! ETA to ad beter speling |
| Date: 2009/07/20 12:58:46, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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| Date: 2009/07/20 17:10:26, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I am reminded of the Tom Lehrer lyric from New Math, It's so simple, so very simple, that only a child can do it! |
| Date: 2009/07/20 18:44:37, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Just to print a thousand copies of the film is serious money. I'd be suprised if they made any money at all on the first run in theaters. Probably started to be profitable with DVD sales. The church basement bookings are peanuts. |
| Date: 2009/07/22 18:28:16, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Someone should remark on the coincidence between the number of fine tuning parameters and the number of OT prophecies fulfilled by Jesus. Anyone who can't see the connection, send me $10 and I will pray for you. If you still don't see it after a week, send another $10. eta for teh spel bad |
| Date: 2009/07/23 10:18:17, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima proposes a bold experiment
But I doubt the Vedic Institute of Budapest has the necessary equipment. Perhaps the Biologic Institute can loan them some? Or perhaps the Biology Section of the Volcano Island Research Instutue hidden in Puget Sound. |
| Date: 2009/07/23 21:53:10, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima whips it out.
Not the best code in the world, but ok for lunch time.
I will be interested to see how the UD crowd react to that last observation. |
| Date: 2009/07/24 14:07:46, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
So at the beginning of every semester, these sites should register a sudden influx of never before seen names. I wonder if that is actually discernable. Enrollment might be too low to see it above the noise. |
| Date: 2009/07/24 17:56:34, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
On second thought, is this even legal? Does BJU force you to witness on street corners? if I was just taking the class to learn ID, I have to defend the Xian worldview on the web? |
| Date: 2009/07/26 06:01:59, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Happy Birthday! |
| Date: 2009/07/26 21:25:24, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Thanks, deadman! But why am I not surprised a zombie post gets acomment from you? :) |
| Date: 2009/07/28 14:12:57, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
But does Corny hold that position provisionally? |
| Date: 2009/07/29 10:40:44, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
It's FrillDodgem! Good to see someone trying to bridge the divide. |
| Date: 2009/07/29 11:29:09, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
African or European? In this context, must be African... sheep roll downhill, Darwinist!!1! Welcome to Wales!!! I'm not interbrreding wiht any inuit sheepI dont care how short its skirt is - dt |
| Date: 2009/07/29 14:45:02, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Incredible that Gordon has now changed his Lewontin quote from the correct NYRB to the incorrect NYT. I guess he doesn't believe Nakashima. Monotonic increase in non-function. |
| Date: 2009/07/29 23:34:13, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Will Mapoo dare contradict FrillDodgem on his own thread? |
| Date: 2009/07/30 00:30:32, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I see the list of Authors has reappeared on the UD sidebar. (Must be a full moon) When will Nakashima be allowed to join this glorious company? |
| Date: 2009/07/30 10:31:27, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
|
String Theory Does Something Useful Explaining some aspect of high temperature superconductivity -
Sorry BA^77, not teleportation... |
| Date: 2009/08/01 14:42:05, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| I saw Nilsson and Pelger come up again on UD. Is there really no eye evolution computer simulation on the web? |
| Date: 2009/08/03 10:59:40, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Does anyone have access to this Science article? http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/316/5830/1452 It looks like an interesting evo-devo study that would answer some of KF's nattering about megabits of morphological FSCI. (I know, it's just plants. "It's only a plant!!1!" should go on the same list as "Then why are there still monkeys!!1!") |
| Date: 2009/08/03 21:50:26, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Diamond is that unstable?? I thought diamonds dug out of the ground were formed more than several million years ago, why didn't they transmogrify back to coal while still in the ground? |
| Date: 2009/08/03 22:16:48, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Its twoo, its twoo! (a shout out for all you Madeline Kahn fans out there!) |
| Date: 2009/08/03 23:24:59, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Bait
Switch
Just in case the server hiccups. |
| Date: 2009/08/03 23:38:43, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Glad you liked it, it's all for the onlookers, as KF would say. BA^77 is just gonna see the Debbil quoting Scripture and get the vapors. And it has the added benefit of being true! |
| Date: 2009/08/04 10:24:53, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Inquisition? Nakashima seems to be sitting in the Comfy Chair, while BlahBlah^77 grills his Ebil Twin Skippy! What mod would even want to step in at this point? FrillDodgem, the thread owner? CB, the worshipper at the altar of CSL and GKC? BArrogant, the absentee landlord? DDrr.. Dembski, creator of the Vise Strategy? Keeping ID "on message" went out with Scooter. |
| Date: 2009/08/04 12:05:08, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Its a poke at Cornelius Hunter, who didn't seem to realize that evolution _is_ change in allele frequencies over time. Check my sig! |
| Date: 2009/08/04 16:25:12, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
The infield fly rule is a great example of counter inuitive evolution! |
| Date: 2009/08/05 11:29:29, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Anemone
Clown
Grouper
Wrasse
How long will the UD mods tolerate this? Is Blahblah^77 in danger of an anyeurism? |
| Date: 2009/08/06 00:03:55, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Notice how much Joe had to say in response. |
| Date: 2009/08/06 15:34:29, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I would have expected Front Loading to be killed by Genetic Entropy, kind of like Godzilla vs Mothra. |
| Date: 2009/08/06 16:00:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
BTW, are you Khan on UD right now? |
| Date: 2009/08/06 17:26:22, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Somewhere in the flow of BlahBlah^77 gobbledeygook, I thought some meme to the effect that, genetic entropy was just the process of mutated, attenuated strains reverting back to wild type. Which is quite funny, since that means that what God created was the "mutated" strain... but now I can't find the reference. |
| Date: 2009/08/06 21:56:06, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
BlahBlah^77 hasn't figured out how to be moderate yet.
Some hellacious amount of projection going on, there. |
| Date: 2009/08/07 12:52:57, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Dang, now I'm reading this thread. There is a PRA declaration for the Form 1040. It says the IRS will use the answers to help determine the tax you owe. Shawn Perez, attorney FAIL. |
| Date: 2009/08/07 12:59:41, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Is this Scooter's Mom? Sister? Evil Twin? Alter Ego? get your own blow-up sex toy. she's got vibrating, lifelike privates and mones when i press a button on the remote. i made all the payments and she's all mine!!1! -dt |
| Date: 2009/08/07 13:02:22, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
People asked "Where's StephenB?" and he started posting again. There is a name for this kind of magic. |
| Date: 2009/08/07 13:10:24, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Speaking of magic, I just realized that DO'L posted all those articles a while ago so that she could go on vacation and still meet her numbers for the summer. |
| Date: 2009/08/11 21:58:15, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Oh noes!!1! Slew is falling for Joel's "absurd but helpfully distractive" gambit! |
| Date: 2009/08/11 23:10:59, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
What is the Dodgenator 3000's verdict on this post? |
| Date: 2009/08/11 23:14:11, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Be sure to have your bannination recorded on the Blogczar thread. I was watching it fall off the first page here at AtBC, waiting for the current meltdown at UD to start causing casualties. |
| Date: 2009/08/13 07:10:18, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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CB isn't DDrr.. D. As a thelogian of some renown, there is no way Fresh Willy would lower hisself to quoting the likes of Lewis and Chesterton, even for camouflage. More to the point, using a sock is completely antithetical to Dollar Bill's MO, which is ITS ALL ABOUT ME! Do you remember the show Sunday in the Park With George? The song "Putting It Together"?
Billy Sweater would never correct himself. Someday, Isaac Newton will be known as the William Dembski of Calculus, just you wait and see! |
| Date: 2009/08/13 07:56:59, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
ScottAndrews
Someone remind Scott to post this thought on the next Darwin = Hitler thread. |
| Date: 2009/08/13 08:08:11, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
OK, so I was wrong about Chesterton... I sound like Uncle Billy and proud of it - his DNA is in my vains! only metaphoricly, he told me when i woke up that nothing happended to be ashamed of, just what one Marine would do for his brother in need. (but i always thought that was more of a navy thing??) semper fi, dr D I'm always there for you -dt |
| Date: 2009/08/14 10:22:33, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It may be his familiarity with that amateur scientist guy that both Discover magazine and the Discovery Institute like. His work on detecting air pollution might have used polarization, not sure. Memory fails, can't google it right now. ETA - apologies for taking you seriously! |
| Date: 2009/08/14 12:03:16, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Nakashima is within an inch of breaking his toy. Please, don't make BraveSirRobin^77 leave! Who else will the provide the YouTube links?? typical Inuit skirtchaser reponse. I found YouTube the other day all by myself. sick cheezy poof videos up there, i downloaded them all for only 59.99 one time payment - dt |
| Date: 2009/08/14 17:30:20, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Anyone in the DC area on next Thursday Aug 20? The week after that I will be in the Czech Republic, visiting Brno, Olomouc, and perhaps Hyn?ice - all associated with Gregor Mendel's life and work. If you can't meet me, I'll try to bring back pictures. I'd love to bring Prof Steve Steve with me if anyone knows how to make that happen. |
| Date: 2009/08/14 20:38:44, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Same argument is used by Orthodox Jews, but with 600,000 adult males witnessing the giving of the Torah on Mt Sinai, with extra goodness like "you could never get 600,000 Jews to agree about anything, therefore it must be true!" |
| Date: 2009/08/15 08:07:49, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Left you a comment over there. Congratulations! |
| Date: 2009/08/15 11:54:57, Link | ||||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||||
I have a neighbor with a number tatooed on his arm by the Nazis when he was a child. I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance of the Holocaust deniers when they encounter a survivor. |
| Date: 2009/08/15 14:31:15, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| ok, I hurt my head listening to John Mark Reynolds for an hour. Math proves God, If you read Gary Habermas you will believe, so if you don't believe you must be wrong. gah |
| Date: 2009/08/17 00:18:28, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
DATCG
Nakashima
So Reeves is following the path of mediocrity? Did he accept Jesus into his heart in 1999? |
| Date: 2009/08/19 12:47:04, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
DDrr.. Dembski should warn these guys about the inadequacy of evolutionary algorithms. Especially since they appear in the same issue as his article!
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| Date: 2009/08/21 01:17:27, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I think the idea Frill was groping towards is loop unrolling, as is done in some optimizatons. |
| Date: 2009/08/22 08:33:35, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| This same issue was pointed to the people responsible for a Monash U. web page on Weasel, and they corrected thenselves. Dembski is obstinate on the issue for some obscure psychlogical reason. |
| Date: 2009/09/07 22:13:47, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Hi all! I'm back from my vacation in the Czech Republic and have wasted my jetlagged Labor Day catching up with all the hilarity of UD. CZ was great, but the part I really wanted to share with y'all was my 'pilgrimage' to Brno to see the Gregor Mendel Museum. I will try to post some pics soon. Very nice small exhibit, recently redone. I took photos of the original plot of land where Mendel worked on his pea plants. An interesting point that was brought up in the exhibit was Mendel's awareness of Darwin's work. Mendel actually travelled to England in 1865, though I doubt he could have ever met Darwin. Mendel did have a copy of OoS, apparently he underlined passages he found important. I am considering writing to the Museum to see if they have more specific information on which passages those might be. Besides OoS, he had several of Darwin's later works as well, that related to his interests in plant husbandry. All pretty interesting for a guy who went on to become the Abbot of the Augustinian monks in Brno. (Nakashima came back with me, though it was hard to drag him away from the Czech supermodels, and vice versa. He'll be back in the tardmines of UD soon enough!) |
| Date: 2009/09/09 16:37:29, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
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Here's a little something related to genetic algorithms that I was thinking about during my recent vacation. I decided to write it down and share it with y'all in the hope getting some feedback on the idea. Now that I've got the idea sketched out, I'll implement it in the little GA I've been building. Thanks in advance for any comments.
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| Date: 2009/09/10 11:51:48, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I just finished reading the first article yesterday. I think they did a great job of bringing together multiple streams of evidence to support their hypothesis, as well as bridging the RNA-world and metabolism first divide. Definitely something to wave in front of GERM of TIKI the next time he goes on about the always linked improbabilities of OOL. It looks like you don't need plate tectonics to get started, though tides might help. |
| Date: 2009/09/10 17:23:37, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Not sure what nirwad's first language is, but it isn't English. |
| Date: 2009/09/10 17:32:55, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Are we keeping track of pro-ID commenters that Clive,baby has subjected to moderation? I noticed Mapou recently complaining, and I thought BA^77 might be as well. It was also amusing to see a recent comment wondering why the Timaeus/Allan MacNeil debate had never happened, apparently the poster was unaware that Timaeus had been banned by Scooter for being unable to talk about anything but religion. |
| Date: 2009/09/10 17:52:38, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
While the article explains the hydrothermal precipitation of ZnS with reference to what we see today at the mid ocean ridges caused by plate tectonics, it also makes clear (deep in the article) that the huge ZnS outflows such as the Pilbara Craton of the early Earth took place at the continental surface as the result of volcanic hot spots and high atmospheric pressure working together - hydrothermal does not imply deep ocean in this case. Plate tectonics would still be important later in sequestering carbon, but just to get life started, they are argunig not necessary. |
| Date: 2009/09/11 12:20:25, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
It is still not clear if Dembski even cares about irreducible complexity. To the good doubleplusdoctor, it is all about the Sweater. |
| Date: 2009/09/15 10:52:19, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Peer review in theology reminds me of the classic Gary Larson Far Side cartoon "You must be this tall to attack the city" |
| Date: 2009/09/17 13:20:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima explains animal husbandry to PaV
Though in the case of the Republican Senator, the stance did not improve his chances of reproductive success. |
| Date: 2009/10/02 01:47:37, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Do believable theistic traditions allow you to kill other people if you don't plan on killing yourself, like in the Crusades? |
| Date: 2009/10/03 01:57:24, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Tom and Wes do this stuff as academic professionals. I'm just a tinkerer who likes to use it and play with it on the side. |
| Date: 2009/10/04 04:26:47, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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MeganC's post on O'Leary's latest contest post seems to have been excised, which doesn't stop O'Leary from answering it. In other news, the loudspeaker in the ceiling has been turned on again by idnet.com.au |
| Date: 2009/10/04 05:18:47, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
If you just listen to the soundtrack, charismatic porn and charismatic prayer may be hard to distinguish. |
| Date: 2009/10/04 12:54:52, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Joe the G
Nakashima
Sig worthy! |
| Date: 2009/10/04 13:42:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima, in the latest Barrogant thread
RBill, saddle that pony one more time! |
| Date: 2009/10/04 19:01:10, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima, saved just in case.
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| Date: 2009/10/08 00:15:39, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima finds niwrad refreshingly different.
Still a TARD though. |
| Date: 2009/10/08 08:13:52, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I just have had a post gone missing on AtBC. I saw my name as last poster on the list, so it must be there somewhere. Now there have been several posts since. Is there a spam filter that buckets really short messages that are perhaps only links? I forget if I added some text beyond the link. If so, can we filter the filter to allow such messages if they only reference UD? |
| Date: 2009/10/08 08:29:56, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
IIRC, the whole Bible Code craze was started by an article published in a respectable, peer reviewed statistics journal. It compared the probability of finding Hebrew words at various repeats (and backwards) in the Hebrew Bible with the same for Russian words in the original of War and Peace, and some other similar long texts. It concluded that there was a statistically significant difference in the texts (not the underlying language). I've read this paper. It is not so much smuggling ID in as trying to assert a religious position as calmly as possible. I think it was done by Orthodox Jewish scientists (CS, Stat, math types) in Israel. At least one otherwise respectable rabbi had been pursuing this idea for years by hand. But then, manipulating the holy and God given text of the Torah is an ancient Rabbinic tradition! |
| Date: 2009/10/08 11:25:53, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
You are correct, but if they found "b...g...n" at a certain repeat, I don't think they double counted that as finding both "begun" and "began". They may even have thrown in a disemvoweled War and Peace against a disemvoweled Russian dictionary. I remember they tested the Russian text of the Bible against the Russian dictionary. (They did not try the Koran against an Arabic dictionary!) Sorry I can't Google a citation at the moment. It would have been from the mid-90s. I used to have a paper copy, but I think I chucked it, or worse, my ex has it. |
| Date: 2009/10/08 11:37:38, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Comments on UD or his own blog? I only saw comments on his blog, at least 15. BTW, didn't Clive,baby's post on assisted suicide disappear and reappear yesterday? GrannyTard's comment is just awful. Nakashima feels his gorge rising, but DDrr.. Dembski tells him to keep it down. She must have pictures. Really nasty pictures. Her "contributions" (TARDroppings) to other threads has risen. If anything, these missives are even less coherent than her own OPs. Mostly because they are longer. Her OP is usually just a cut and paste job, but CornyTard seems to have invaded that niche. |
| Date: 2009/10/08 20:30:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Not Scooter. Schadenfreude, baby. Barry "Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Arrington might think about that. |
| Date: 2009/10/09 08:01:00, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I think Obama should turn it down. Put it in a time delay capsule or something. He knows he doesn't deserve it yet. Sad to see such overt political messaging from the Nobel committee. |
| Date: 2009/10/09 17:48:00, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
I agree. Conversing with StephenB is like watching Galvani talk to a frog's leg. The twitches are entirely predictable after a while. |
| Date: 2009/10/09 19:29:38, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Reaping the Whirlwind, StuartHarris opines
I thought he was going to mention BYU. |
| Date: 2009/10/10 16:12:18, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I'd prefer for that discussion to happen here. Special purpose threads are hard to find (at least for me). I prefer general threads that pick up topics as necessary. Viz. the discussion of Mendel's Accountant and previous Weasel discussions on this thread. |
| Date: 2009/10/10 22:17:17, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Taken to the extreme, that says just run "Generate and Test" and give up on this fancy selecting, sorting, etc. NFL is NFL. However, I think we agree that most human interesting problems are in a class where some level of GA can help if we don't already know a closed form solution. I realize there is a view that demes are just to allocate hardware appropriately, but I've also seen research that avoiding panmixis is a benefit irrespective of hardware. YMMV. |
| Date: 2009/10/11 07:45:27, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Easy, delete the question and ban the questioner! Just wait for Barrogant to come back from church, and see. |
| Date: 2009/10/11 17:43:43, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima may have found one of those points on which the normally calm VJT goes off the rails. |
| Date: 2009/10/12 16:50:00, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Perhaps AussieID will take up Nakashima's advice:
or crickets or flatulence Come on down, AussieID! |
| Date: 2009/10/13 10:44:41, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Does the package actually say "Frolic Acid"? That and MSG is a dangerous combination, but would explain a lot. |
| Date: 2009/10/14 07:03:17, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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I think it is interesting to see UDers such as niwrad and DLH acknowledge the Stryer and Bunn papers on evolution and SLOT. Here's my prediction: These papers are so short and simple that they are very difficult to dispute. Instead, they will be absorbed into the creationist Borg almost whole. Remember how plate tectonics and evolution were fiercely resisted, and then suddenly the argument got switched around that they happened at fantastically high rates during and after the Flood? The same thing will happen here. Bunn concludes that evolution had to take at least 10^7 seconds for SLOT to be safe, less than a year! With a little shaving of an order of magnitude here and there, AiG will get that down to six days. Voila! Now they will argue that their theory is equally well suppported by this argument, therefore the argument is worthless to choose between theories. Not that anyone ever used SLOT to criticize YEC, of course! |
| Date: 2009/10/15 10:30:37, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
For a while I thought that niwrad was gpuccio, but I think gpuccio's English was better. I wonder where gpuccio went? He's definitely ESL, but I haven't figured out the first language from the mistakes in the second. I've eliminated Asian because he doesn't make single/plural mistakes. |
| Date: 2009/10/15 17:46:45, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
So you're saying that invention is much more than 99% perspiration? :) |
| Date: 2009/10/16 07:36:01, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
Done there, been that |
| Date: 2009/10/17 16:07:00, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Not sure I agree, mainly because I'm uncomfortable with the kind of casual probabilistic language getting rubbed up against logical statements. If I translate this kind of logical statement into set theory and helpful Venn diagrams and such, I know U, the universe of discourse, from the beginning. I don't discover U gradually. Futher, it seems to buy into a certain definition of probability. I didn't give this too much thought, so feel free to disagree. |
| Date: 2009/10/18 14:39:39, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
BTW, it appears that she was interviewed because she happens to live in a building with an unlucky address, 14 Latimer Ave. Not for being a gap toothed moron. The background story is that Aurora, a town north of Toronto, will allow people (mostly of East Asian descent) who object to '4' (sounds like the word for death in some Asian languages) in their addresses to change those addresses if there is sufficient gap in the house numbering to keep it sequential. I was hoping to catch a glimpse of her amazing dialect of English being misspoken in real time, but alas her efforts seem to have fallen on the cutting room floor. Is there video of Dense-speak on the web? |
| Date: 2009/10/18 14:42:06, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
It's the Cheetohs laced with Frolic Acid and MSG... |
| Date: 2009/10/19 12:55:13, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a logician! |
| Date: 2009/10/19 13:41:00, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
The incredibly voluble Nakashima, in one of far too many posts on UD recently
I would love love love someone to prove that distinguishing between ordered and organized (ie the whole ID enterprise) is equivalent to the Halting Problem, and therefore never ever going to happen. What say y'all? At Dell we never had a halting problem, there's a switch on the side of the box!!1! i kill myself only an darwinst inuit skirtchaser would have trouble figuring taht out - dt |
| Date: 2009/10/20 10:34:40, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
RichardTaHuge - puts the boy in flamboyant |
| Date: 2009/10/20 14:06:50, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Six, if you use the banana. I'd better be careful. But RichardTaHuge counting to six will violate SLOT, so I'm safe. Guess I'm lucky! RichardTaHuge, I bow to your superior flamBOYancy! |
| Date: 2009/10/20 14:55:19, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Praise teh designer it's not spelled "flamebolaboyanteDelicto" |
| Date: 2009/10/21 15:27:29, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
What BA^77 said:
What Nakashima heard:
All Science So Far |
| Date: 2009/10/22 16:37:34, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
A pen is perfectly designed to be held in the hand, that is how you know it is not a raven. |
| Date: 2009/10/22 16:42:20, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Absolutist, piling onto the high-frickin-larious beer thread:
and the ETA
Frankly Absolutist, "beliefs that keep you from rationally reasoning" is both funnier and more accurate. |
| Date: 2009/10/27 07:14:32, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
I'm in Prague with my newly affianced Czech supermodel, the champagne and hotel reservation are waiting so it is quite possible that I will not take your advice! |
| Date: 2009/10/29 12:13:14, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Thank you all! I hope to post a suitable, fully clothed and bejewelled picture of said supermodel in the near future. |
| Date: 2009/11/01 12:23:00, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
Back in the US, sober but jet lagged... The recently affianced supermodel and her little ruby and diamond companion. |
| Date: 2009/11/01 15:24:39, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Seversky - rabid enough to attack Jebus pandering Nakashima - rabid enough to ignore Jebus pandering |
| Date: 2009/11/01 18:29:36, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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http://tinyurl.com/yby7sqq Murata Seiko - the practical benefits of a unicycling robot remain unclear... Hitachi Wooo gesture controlled TV - what Tom Cruise was using in Minority Report Nissan collision avoidance for cars - uses the same algorithm as a school of fish... sounds safe, unless the 18 wheeler behind you is using the same algorithm as a leopard seal... Yamaha's Mimi - a singing robotic receptionist dressed like a Final Fantasy cosplay... what your home needs... |
| Date: 2009/11/02 13:44:49, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Her English as a second language (or fifth, after Czech, Slovak, Russian and Polish) is better than D'Oh!Leary's English as a first language. (And her version of "Darling, we must get Moose and Squirrel!" is to die for.) |
| Date: 2009/11/02 14:40:35, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
How could you ever forget that BatShit^77 was nuts? That's like forgetting whether you are holding a banana or a raven. |
| Date: 2009/11/02 23:30:47, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
And yet, Paul seems to let slavery slide past. How do you read Philemon? (Ans. Very quickly!) |
| Date: 2009/11/05 06:27:46, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Nick Matzke's blog entry on PT about Steve Fuller has led me to learn a bit more about Dr Steve. I'm now listening to a long video of nim that was linked from his Wikipedia page. Near the beginning he claims that one of the groundings of Nazi hatred of Jews was that they were 'maladapted to their environment' for not being located where they were evolved to live. Is that true?? He eventually gets around to saying evo-psych is a rebranding of sociobiology "but the science has improved, too". I didn't know he believed in a ground truth such as science? He's really clueless about the origins of a desire to know, and how that is explained in evolutionary terms. "Materialists never did science." What an idiot. Darwinism leads to downsizing science - no LHC because no immediate benefit. |
| Date: 2009/11/05 17:16:14, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
She has explained that Coffee!!1! in the title of a post is a signal not to take it too seriously. As if that somehow differentiated it from all her other posts. Consider it an alternative form of tagging a post "gap toothed creationist humor". |
| Date: 2009/11/06 11:12:05, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima continues to dangle boreagain77 by his ankle.
And by the letters T, A, R, and D! |
| Date: 2009/11/06 11:21:36, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Efinately-Day! |
| Date: 2009/11/06 12:04:03, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
I haven't duped and swapped since hacking my Apple LaserWriter to write PostScript. Good times! |
| Date: 2009/11/06 15:09:55, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Dogs and cats, living together! You Darwinist Inuit skirtchasers are all alike. God created the CODE, DATA, STACK, and the HEAP as separate kinds!!1! -dt |
| Date: 2009/11/06 15:18:03, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Many of the engineers Ken Ham met at a Bible study are creationists? Whooda thunk it? Natural selection overpowered by self selection. |
| Date: 2009/11/07 09:06:51, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima goes for a Poe Award
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| Date: 2009/11/07 13:23:00, Link | ||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||
I hate to take the money of an innocent girl, but it is for a good cause... now don't go provoking him unecessarily... BTW, Nakashima and God's iPod are among the few UD commenters to have been revived from bannnination. BTBTW, is anyone in Brussels that wants to meet on Monday afternoon? Anyone? Bueller? |
| Date: 2009/11/07 18:56:57, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Lots of socks have been unfailingly polite and still got banned. I think a big part of Nakashima's success to date is based on two things: 1 - he did get banned but Barry caved to public pressure and reinstated him. Once burned, twice shy on the ban stick, it seems. 2 - he picks his arguments. Nakashima rarely mixes it up with StephenB, Clive, Barry, etc on social Darwinism, Nazis, Columbine. or atheism. His main targets are KF, niwrad, and of course BA^77. DO'HLeary and PaulN are targets of opportunity. He avoids a Dembski thread until Dembski has become bored with it. The recent snark/Poe is breaking rule 2, but only at the expense of Densey, and he has said far worse about her in the past. |
| Date: 2009/11/11 05:02:03, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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A list of human competitive results from genetic programming An interesting list of things that it used to be necessary for an intelligent designer to do. |
| Date: 2009/11/13 01:54:08, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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Nakashima may have finally ground down BA^77 on the subject of quantum teleportation. Batsh^tInsane77's last comment was "I stand by my claim." and a return to posting multiple excerpts from random scientists, creationists and YouTube videos. Nakashima replied, but Batty did not deign to reply. It will be interesting to see how long it takes before BA^77 makes the teleportation claim again on UD. |
| Date: 2009/11/13 03:19:04, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
From the Dennis Sewell article:
If the Columbine evidence is under seal, how can Barrogant make claims about what is in it? |
| Date: 2009/11/13 04:36:32, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| Happy Birthday, not too late I hope! |
| Date: 2009/11/13 08:52:21, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Linky? |
| Date: 2009/11/15 16:16:35, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
One sock never got off the ground, but for another the trick to slipping off the mod leash was to post an oblique comment on an O'Leary thread as the first post. She's usually desperate for comments, so she'll let you through, and then Bob as they say is your uncle. |
| Date: 2009/11/16 06:18:16, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
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As a reward for knocking BA^77 around the head on quantum teleportation, Nakashima is now being given the silent treatment by the batboy! Oh noes!!1! ETA Damn, not that lucky after all |
| Date: 2009/11/17 07:36:14, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Nakashima offers to be the coding partner of BA^77 for a bit of extreme programming.
How will BA^77 respond to this challenge? He only seems to program in YouTube. |
| Date: 2009/11/17 12:16:54, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Batsh^itInsane77 yuks it up
Don't tell jerry he saved Darwinism, he's been working for years to kill it! |
| Date: 2009/11/17 15:23:05, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
Pretty sad that besides AiG, the biggest reference to the Kimura distribution is one piece of research on mitochondrial RNA heteroplasmy. According to Google, that is. |
| Date: 2009/11/17 22:25:25, Link |
| Author: dvunkannon |
| The slow motion train wreck of Batsh^itInsane77 is something truly awe inspiring. Yesterday he fell for a story about brine shrimp being detected in the South Atlantic via real-time use of satellite lasers. Last week he was pummeled on quantum teleportation. What kind of a glutton for punishment is this guy? Is there a Lolcat that can explain the phenomenon? |
| Date: 2009/11/18 05:01:22, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
Nakashima has said that to his "face" point blank, and gotten the smarmy silence that means yes. |
| Date: 2009/11/18 09:08:47, Link | ||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||
That must have been some driving test! Was this in fact the autodidact commander of the FCM or some other north of 150 member of the ID roster? I'm too young in the tard to recognize the quote. |
| Date: 2009/11/18 20:35:07, Link | ||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||
Is this the end for Nakashima??
or will Kattarina have to pay out twenty Euros? |
| Date: 2009/11/18 21:41:54, Link | ||||||||
| Author: dvunkannon | ||||||||
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