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Date: 2008/03/20 09:47:20, Link
Author: blader
Nomad, perhaps I missed it, but can you please describe how one can go about getting a pass to see a screening?

I see they have one planned at a theater near me, and I'd like to see it for myself (I think).  I mean, it sounds so bad it might actually be funny..or not.

Date: 2008/03/20 10:28:00, Link
Author: blader
Quote (Nomad @ Mar. 20 2008,02:18)
And I'm still furious that Ben Stein played off his Jewish Heritage and ignored all those details to blame it all on science.  I still can't figure out Ben's motive behind all this.  He can't have been paid enough.  The filmmakers can proceed to make more drivel like this, they'll always have an audience.  But can Ben be counting on becoming the next bizarre conservative religious spokesperson in the style of Kirk Cameron or Chuck Norris?  Perhaps his recent financial advice screwups were the result of him phoning in his last days as a financial guru before he moves on to Liars for Jesus inc?  Is a Fox News guest commenter relationship on the horizon?

When I first heard about this project, my first reflex was to assume it was a parody....until it became clear who are the producers.  Then I looked into Stein's pedigree a bit further.

My best guess is that what mostly motivates Stein is he is one of those people who make their living by working to get exposure and recognition so he'll be considered for the next gig that comes down the line.  He's just out there shilling, trying to get work.  

What is more interesting is to speculate why a group of self-styled fundamentalist christian leaders appear to have quite purposely chosen a jewish entertainer to serve as their standard bearer during what I think is quite clearly something they see as the next phase of their culture war.

I don't think it is at all accidental that Stein was selected for the project rather than someone else.  I'm pretty convinced that by recruiting Stein, they hoped to deflect any charges that their culture movement is essentially based upon a religious proposition.  As if to say, "Look!  How can you possibly accuse us of being an anti-intellectual religious-based when our key spokesman is actually a holywood/ivy league elitist wunderkind jew?!?"

It seems to me you can always expect the DI to do the crass and tasteless and the clumsy.  I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to them congratulate themselves for the brilliance of choosing Stein.

Date: 2008/03/20 11:42:42, Link
Author: blader
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 20 2008,11:34)
Quote (blader @ Mar. 20 2008,09:47)
Nomad, perhaps I missed it, but can you please describe how one can go about getting a pass to see a screening?

I see they have one planned at a theater near me, and I'd like to see it for myself (I think).  I mean, it sounds so bad it might actually be funny..or not.

In case Nomad is still recovering his recently assaulted brain cells, here is a link so that you can book your screening:

BTW - What city are you in?

Unless you want to get bombarded with Marketing junk, I would suggest setting  up a special email account.  They also ask for a Title when you sign up - Pastor, or Youth Group Leader would get you instant credibility.

I'm in Atlanta


Date: 2008/03/25 12:28:19, Link
Author: blader
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,09:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

I figured it would come to this.

They are going to have to go underground and into secretive mode with their pre-screening.  They'll hold pre-screenings, but they won't tell anybody where they'll be.

Which is hilarious in so many ways if the entire point of the pre-screening campaign was to generate a buzz and interest for the broader big screen rollout.

There is some reason here to wonder if they really do have a contract to get it distributed or if that too is a bunch of BS

I know Flock of Dodo's tried hard but was never signed up for something like that.  It doesn't sound like expelled is the sort of movie you'd ever see at the Mall 16 unless it is underwritten by big, deep and really stupid pockets.

Date: 2008/06/04 12:13:49, Link
Author: blader
Quote (Kristine @ May 16 2008,11:18)
Me, I'm hoping that they build up a big expectation in the press that they're going to cure cancer or something. The internet didn't exist when all this "creation science" was around. Now they're leaving a virtual paper trail, and good! I say.

It seems curing cancer is aiming pretty low compared to their obvious objective, which is to use the tools of modern day scientific mimicry to prove the existence of God.

By design, it will keep them in business for an eternity.