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Date: 2009/01/09 15:14:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well...err...Hi everyone. Is there a place around here where I could introduce myself?

I've been a lurker for quite some time, and I am really looking forward to enter the fray :)

I know this is not the best place to start, but at least I am almost sure everybody needs to read the bathroom wall, at one point or another.

Thanks in advance...

ps: I am slowly advancing on the UnReasonable Kansas thread (page 79 so far) and am enjoying every single part of it.

pps: oh, by the way, sorry, I'm french... :p

Date: 2009/01/09 15:35:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks Louis.

Then I will pass on the introduction, finish my updating on some topics, and join in the fun. With a bit of chance, I will get to introduce myself as I go along.

And to everyone: happy new year!

Date: 2009/01/09 15:56:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks J-Dog

You forgot how I will cowardly surrender as soon as I taste cold steel  :D

And the baguette! The *holly* baguette!


Anyway, no one worries, I am well used to these stereotypes. But if anyone cares, I have a few stereotypes about US, UK, Ausies and all.

At the moment, I am watching a few videos linked by Wes (that talk including him, Dumbsky*, Ken Miller...)

*Did I really mispell that? :D

Date: 2009/01/10 10:15:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, guys, it's not fair! I'm only on page 80 of this thread, and I want to absorbe everything before joining in the fun. But there are one or two things I have to say:

Creationist websites are definitely a proof that an intellignet designer doesn't exist. I mean, really, honnestly...MY EYES MY EYES!!!

And, Making Money is probably one of the finest, wittiest works in the Discworld series so far. And Pucci DOES sound a bit like Ftk. Pterry, are you really reading this? :)

So, who would Cosmo be...?

Date: 2009/01/10 10:24:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, the next challenge will probably be to find out what they will call it next.

Let's get started:

-Creationism

--Creation Science

---Intelligent Design

----mmmhhh...Not so Intelligent but more kinda like Apologetic Design, but wait, no, that's not what we said...er...oh...YOU MEANIES!!!

Date: 2009/01/12 18:21:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, IMHO, it should be time for the kill, nay?

I'm still on page 102 of this thread, which means I have already lost a few braincells coping with FTK's blabbering, but most of all I've got enraged at what happened for a few pages, starting page 92 (you know, that homosexuality stuff). I'm not gay, yet my sister is (yep, very), and as Sgt Jackrum used to say: "Upon my oath I am not a violent man", but I wouldn't mind a-kicking a particular, "designed" bollock right now!

So I tried to rationalize, keep a cool head. Then, IT struck me hard..."For The Kids"! Damn! For The Friggin Kids!!!

I'm ok with Creatards running loose, since any (mildly) educated person should know better than to swallow their bullcrap. But...For The Kids???

Correct me if I'm wrong: what we have here is your typical crationist/bible literalist/hollier-than-thou nutsy. Ok, fine. But now she dares pretending it's for the kiddies? To help them fulfill a better life in the all loving embrace of Jebus? And from that stratpoint, deciding that everyone must follow her point-of-view/opinion?

Don't get me wrong, I got the sick deep meaning before, but only now did it just strike me as one of the things I loath the most in today's society.

And here is my final point, probably a matter for banning from Wes or Steve or anyone, and I will understand if it is so, but I have to say it:

FTK: Get some help. Seriously! I wouldn't want to be you when your kids are finaly confronted with the World Of Everyday. It's a 50/50 bet. Maybe they will continue to follow your indoctrination, but if they really are critical as you say they should be, they will loath you. They will hate you for the liar that you are, and they will laugh at your biggotery. Think about their future. Stop the bullshit!

Sorry to everyone if this is offensive, especialy since I got heated up by an almost 2 years old message, but it had to get out!

Date: 2009/01/20 11:38:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, yes, that's it! Obama is President. And thanks to him for the "and non-believers" in his speech. It gives hope...

Date: 2009/01/20 12:42:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
yeah, and someone please point me to the part where it says the oath has to be taken over the bible, please...

Date: 2009/01/22 06:14:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, now, who is the smartass who replaced Obama's picture with a gorilla?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama

Date: 2009/01/22 06:20:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, it's been fixed. If anyone wants the screenshot:

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo352/fairyphil/GorillaObama.jpg

Date: 2009/01/22 09:14:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey, to Kevin Miller:

I am prone to believe that beside your totaly misled ways of using your brain thingy you might be, up to a point, a descent screenwriter. In the way that you may be able to understand some of today's cinematic imperatives (a trait in no way seen in that mockery of a movie that is Expelled).

On this basis, here is a challenge for you:

Co-write, direct and produce my band's new videoclip. You are allowed to put as much ID propaganda in it as you like, as long as it is scientifically sound. In fact, if you are found of theology, read the concept I wrote for the story surrounding my music. In about 2000 years, this might be the last piece of evidence for a devout and bloodthirsty cult planning to rule over the world.

The charges are, of course, to be covered by you and your team.

Unconditional term is: "scientifically sound"

Have fun :)

Date: 2009/01/23 07:31:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Wes!

Incidently, it's mine too, but who cares XD

At least I will have an easy time remembering yours :p

Date: 2009/01/23 08:49:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Reciprocating Bill, nice title for a book. Reminds me where my nickname comes from:

"Somewhere around the place I've got an unfinished short story about Schroedinger's Dog; it was mostly moaning about all the attention the cat was getting."

   -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

Date: 2009/01/27 07:49:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
erm...I just realised that I haven't thanked anyone. So thanks to all, but most of all to the Big Dog Wes for giving us this great space of expression.

Date: 2009/02/04 07:03:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, just an off-topic quicky (this IS the bathroom wall after all):

Jesus and Satan have a discussion as to who is the better programmer. This goes on for a few hours until they come to an agreement to hold a contest, with God as the judge.

They sit themselves at their computers and begin. They type furiously, lines of code streaming up the screen, for several hours straight. Seconds before the end of the competition, a bolt of lightning strikes, taking out the electricity. Moments later, the power is restored, and God announces that the contest is over.

He asks Satan to show what he has come up with. Satan is visibly upset, and cries, "I have nothing. I lost it all when the power went out."

"Very well, then," says God, "let us see if Jesus fared any better."

Jesus enters a command, and the screen comes to life in vivid display, the voices of an angelic choir pour forth from the speakers. Satan is astonished.

He stutters, "B-b-but how? I lost everything, yet Jesus' program is intact. How did he do it?"

God smiled all-knowingly, "Jesus saves."


Cracks me up every time XD

Date: 2009/02/04 08:33:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 04 2009,08:14)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 04 2009,08:03)
Ok, just an off-topic quicky (this IS the bathroom wall after all):

Jesus and Satan have a discussion as to who is the better programmer. This goes on for a few hours until they come to an agreement to hold a contest, with God as the judge.

(snip)

I think this was a more interesting competition between the two.

Thanks for the link Lou, nice read. But isn't it a tinsy bit sexist? XD

Date: 2009/02/04 15:15:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Congratulations Louis!

I am sure you will definitely love/hate/misunderstand each and every single day of your upcoming life.

Jokes aside, that IS great news, especialy since you have both tried so hard. (ok, that sentence begs for a stupid joke. If no one catches up, I'll have to do it myself soon)...(Ok, that last sentence begs for a joke as well...damn!)

All my greetings to the soon to be mom!

@Arden: you are spending WAY too much time on Icanhascheezburger..............That makes us almost equals :)

Gotta love these LoLcats. Let's find a nice one to celebrate Mini-Louis when the time is due (21 weeks should do it).

Date: 2009/02/04 16:34:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
That, Mr Davbatross, is a great pic!

Date: 2009/02/04 16:50:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 04 2009,16:38)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 04 2009,16:21)
Congrats, Louis and Mrs. Louis (odd name, that).

Here is your future.


Now that's intelligent design.

KC

Well, to be really, 100% sure, you'd have to apply the Informationo-filteromatico-Dembskyo©...

But if it really was intelligently designed, why the Ford Punto?

Sorry, it's almost midnight here in France, and there's no stripper-bar less than 3 kilometers away. Gotta occupy my free time..

Date: 2009/02/04 17:20:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
100% agreement with Wes, for what it costs.


I am always startled by anti-evolutionists who will say "what about the eye", "what about the banana"...

Life as it is today IS the result of random mutations + Natural selection. Two factors which, interacting with each other, give an oodleplex of possibilities. there is nothing in any genome mutation that predertermines future fonctions (correct me if I'm wrong, I am but a layman). A mutation arises, free of purpose, just a random mutation, leading to a (long) process of evolution and specialisation.

If today's humans had tentacles instead of hands, what would be the couter-argument to this "design"?

Would "god" be the FSM?

There is no perfect design so far, and even if there was, it wouldn't be humans. We are just a bunch of evolved apes, get over it!

Date: 2009/02/06 12:24:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wow, I can't believe that cuting funk FTK is still around. And I've only progressed to page 132 of this thread so far!

FTK, make the world a favor and go live in a bunker somewhere.

Thanks!

Date: 2009/02/06 13:13:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well dnmlthr, you, know, that's exactly what I thought at first...

But now, I have to say there is a limit to what a (relatively) sane mind can take. I am amazed and trully impressed by the way all you guys kept you temper regarding BT...oups, FTK for so long. I mean, were I Davebatrossity2, I would have given her a slap at that lecture they both attended a while ago, and wouldn't feel any remorse for doing so.

I am lucky that in France such nutcases are marginal and have no weight whatsoever on any reasonably sane part of the population.

To resume: Me must stop FTKing, me haz teh dumb!

Date: 2009/02/06 13:44:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And FTK, if you like creation myths, here is one I wrote something like 5 years ago.

It has all the charms of religion, with the added extra of clearly being fiction! The funny thing is: imagine what would happen if in 2000 years someone found it and started a worldwide cult?

From that simple first draft, I have already been able to conclude that more than 14 different religions would arise. Sounds familiar?

Sorry to all, this is going to be a LOOONNNNGGG post, and english is not my first language. But I invite anyone willing to compare this simple draft to, for example, the bible, and outbalance the scientific claims that could be made about it...

But on the other hand, reading this alcool-induced bullcrap is not mandatory, so feel free to ignore it, I'm just trying to make a point :)

So, here is the beginning of the Osyrhian story:

OSYRHIA


ANTA, The age of None


In the beginning, there was nothing. Not even darkness, for darkness was something already. The lights of Solan were yet to shine in the firmament of the Gods, and no sound was heard. Then the note softly rose, soaring through the Nothing. When it reached its maximum, it turned into a thunderous chord and a sudden explosion of light filled the universe. The shockwave folded the plans of space and time, spreading like a ripple on a calm lake. Then, in the time of a heartbeat, it collapsed on itself to give birth to a new world, just a mere ball of rock drifting in the darkness, but with a consciousness of its own. This particular mind had no name, but it was given many by the races it later hosted. The most famous of them all, the one that survived through millenniums of an eventful history was Osyrhia. It was said the Gods gave it, or Her, which is more accurate, this name. She gave birth to the seven Gods, the essence of Her essence, so they could fulfill Her thirst of life and beauty, for a sterile piece of rock was not Her idea of an achievement. So the Gods faded into existence, each one gifted with a particular talent. She gave each a name to complete their uniqueness. They were Edoran, Arel, Mirenor, Efael, Solan, Laemnil and Sirid.


Edoran, the first, said: "I shall have this planet shinning like a pearl, so it will be unique and of a beauty never seen before". With these words he dropped a tear of joy on the living rock, which became the seas flowing all around it.

Mirenor looked at it thoughtfully and said: "It is all the same color, and flat on its surface. I will make it more unique now, and give it some pikes and mounds and flat lands for a whole new pattern". So he pinched the very heart of the planet, under the seas, and raised the mountains and plains, giving birth to many lakes and rivers.

Efael then said: "I shall enclose this treasure in a chest of winds, skies and clouds, to give it an ever changing shade". He gave a gentle blow, which became a magnificent summer night sky full with great white clouds, although not yet doted with the shine of stars.

Which brought Solan to a thought: "This jewel shall glint in the ether and know many a night and a day to add to your ever changing shade, Efael". He rubbed his hands against each other, and from this heat was created a majestic ball of intense fire. "I shall call it Sun, and suspend many of the same high in the sky so this one will seem brighter then ever". And thus the stars were born.

Then came the turn of Laemnil to speak: "If this beloved treasure is to change and stay unique, I will give it the mightiest changes ever". So he cut his left hand, and sunk it deep in the heart of the world. "It will scratch and fist and spread, so all on the surface will change in randomness". By this, he created the earthquakes, volcanoes and all that makes the undergrounds move endlessly.

By game and gentle defiance, Arel then said: "I shall soften the work of your hand, Laemnil, and give the lands some support to resist your endless torments". She took a handful of her hair and planted it deep on the slopes of the mountains and over the flat lands, thus creating the trees and forests and grass and flowers. This act further brought Laemnil and Arel to always challenge each other, in gentle defiance.

At last, Sirid joined in and said: "I will put the fishes under your sea, Edoran, the worms and moles under your ground, Mirenor, The birds under your skies, Efael, the deer and bears and raccoons under your trees, Arel, the dragons and wyrms in your left hand, Laemnil, and many other living creatures to fill this world".

What had once been a lifeless rock drifting in darkness was now a magnificent world. It is at this time that the Gods named it Osyrhia: “The Shinning”, or "The Light". But the time of the seven races hadn’t come yet. The period preceding the reign of the conscious people has been called Anta: “The age of None”.

With their first task complete, the Gods went to a peaceful rest and left the world as it was. But the lives and forces they had created did not sleep, however, forging the cradle that would later host their true children. And as the Gods were asleep rose the age of the Giants, unseen by the deities and taking the world as their own. They built the lost cities of K’hal Damara and Rhu, whose massive columns and statues could still be seen under the reign of Morick, and gave birth to many legends and myths. Their very existence had not been dreamed by the spirit of Osyrhia and was the fruit of hazardous turns in the path of evolution. They had no knowledge of the Gods or respect for the lands they lived on.  Breeding fast they soon drenched the natural resources of the world and menaced the coming of the conscious ones. At some point, their enormous size and their eager expansion disturbed the equilibrium of Osyrhia. The spirit of the world was severely wounded by their deeds and couldn’t stand the pressure anymore. So, unheeded by the seven Gods, She brought cataclysmic changes and signed the end of the Giants. The Giants fought back with blind strength in what is known as the Giants War, but the power of Osyrhia was determined to host the children of the Gods and unleashed its terrible force. The world was different during the age of the Giants, and the continents were yet to become what they would later be. The land rose and fell, the seas devoured vast pieces of ground and high plateaus emerged from the troubled waters. The impious cities were swept away or turned to dust, and the Giants were erased from the surface of the world. For they were not part of the Primal dream, the Giants could not be hosted by Sirid, the bringer of life and ultimate receiver of the souls of the departed. Their spirits were condemned to wander in the world until their time would be due. It is still said that when the Gods woke up, they took pity of this forsaken race and gave them a place as their direct servants, small deities amongst a pantheon created by men. It is said, however, that some descendants of this people still lived hidden in the less populated parts of Osyrhia at the time of the conscious ones. The great statues and gigantic ruins they left behind held a lot of secrets for the later inhabitants of Osyrhia, and it was said that one day the Giants would rise again, bringing hope or doom to all…

Date: 2009/02/06 14:04:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well Dave, kudos to you for this!

The poem looks a LOT better than anything FTK could have spurted!

Date: 2009/02/06 14:37:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, Louis!

You are only one hour earlier than me, and already able of such crafty posts? It took me a  bunch of pints just to get logged-in!

Extra crumble in your beer!

Date: 2009/02/06 14:40:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The end of the world will be a fight between Pavlov's dog and Shrodinger's cat! (T. Pratchett)

Date: 2009/02/06 15:09:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 06 2009,14:59)
The Firesign Theatre had a great creation myth (and subsequent scientific explanation):

Quote
“Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone. And he looked around. And he saw his neighbor, which was his mother, and he lay down on top of his neighbor, and behold, she bore him in tears an oak tree, which grew all day, and then fell over, like a bridge. And lo, under the bridge there came a catfish, and he was very big, and he was walking, and he was the biggest he had seen. And so, with the firey balls of this fish, one of which is the sun, and the other, they called the moon.”

Yes, some uncomplicated peoples still believe this myth. But here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space.

These insignificant lumps came together to form the first union, our sun, the heating system. And about this glowing gas bag, rotated the Earth, a cat’s eye among aggies, blinking in astonishment across the face of time.

Well, we were covered with a molten scum of rocks, bobbing on the surface like rats. Later, when there was less heat, these giant rock groups settled down among the land masses. During this extinct time, our Earth was like a steam room, and no one, not even man, could get in. However, the oceans and the sewers were simmering with a rich protein stew, and the mountains moved in to surround and protect them. They didn’t know then that living as we know it was already taking over.

Animals without backbones hid from each other, or fell down. Clamosaurs and oysterettes appeared as appetizers. Then came the sponges, which sucked up about 10% of all life. Hundreds of years later, in the Late Devouring Period, fish became obnoxious. Trailerbites, chiggerbites, and muskquitoes collided aimlessly in the dense gas. Finally, tiny, edible plants sprang up in rows, giving birth to generations of insecticides and other small, dying creatures.

Millions of months passed, and, 28 days later, the moon appeared. This small change was reflected best, perhaps, in the sand dollar, which shrank to almost nothing at the bottom of the pool, where even dumb amphibians like catfish laid their eggs in the boiling waters, only to be gobbled up every three minutes by the giant sea orphans and jungle bunnies, which scared everybody. And so, IN FEAR AND HOT WATER, MAN IS BORN!!!



KC

Ok KC, in the light of your post, I can definitely say my myth story makes me a champion loser!

Still, it was worth a try to stray FTK of her skyfairy path...

My stuff has a kind of jebus too, wielding sword and all, like in the buy-bull!


Does that count???

Date: 2009/02/06 15:35:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 06 2009,15:33)
I like your story, Shroedinger. It's just obviously superstition. For any creation story to be taken seriously, there has to be a turtle in it somewhere.

KC

Damn! I knew I had missed somethin'! Pratchett was right!

It's turtles all the way...

Date: 2009/02/07 16:20:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Feb. 07 2009,15:25)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Feb. 07 2009,14:55)
     
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 07 2009,05:46)
Daniel
I know you are ignoring oldman's messages because you can't address his questions; I feel honored to be included in his company.

But those questions aren't going away, and neither am I.

I am not ignoring oldman because I can't answer his questions, I'm ignoring him because it is futile to do so.

Theoretical conversation:

Me: "the sky is blue a particular hue that only I and the other anointed can perceive ."

oldman:  "Which sky Daniel?" There are lots of "skies" in the universe - which one are you talking about?  Do you think that our sky is the only one that's out there?  That's very self-centered of you Daniel!  BTW, how old is the earth..."

Me: "I meant the sky on my earth oldman."

oldman: "It is Blue to most humans on THIS earth, Daniel, so What about the other trillions millions of species that have occupied this earth?  Are you so self-centered that you can only consider your own perspective?"

Me: "forget it -- my world is unreachable except if you close your eyes and click your heels thrice ".

oldman: "I knew your views could not stand up to scrutiny Daniel.  Thanks for admitting defeat.  I am the victor.  Daniel cannot answer my questions..."

Fixed it for you. No charge.

Little OT on my part, but it is quite interesting to see your correction about the "particular hue".

I have often pondered myself about this whole color concept. I do personaly perceive blue as a particular hue. And I call it "blue" because my social developement led me to think of this hue as blue.

But am I the only one to classify this particular hue as "blue"? What of daltonians? Does each and every individual, not only in the animal reign, but also within the same species, perceive this hue the same way?

Maybe someone will see the sky in a totaly different hue (such as red for exemple), but call it blue because of his social developement...

Do our different tastes for colors come from that?

And deriving from that rather simplish opinion, doesn't our cognitive developement force some pre-conceived ideas upon us? If so, what would actualy exclude the judeo-christian "god" from such pre-conceived ideas?

If this post makes no sense whatsoever, please feel  free to ignore it. And, it IS an OT after all XD

Date: 2009/02/08 04:02:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (noncarborundum @ Feb. 07 2009,21:37)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 07 2009,21:05)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 26 2009,22:22)
Jam:
“The point I'm trying to make to everyone is that one can test predictions
of ID hypotheses after the onion of dishonesty is peeled back.”

Jam, what do you get when you cross an onion with a donkey?
Well, most of the time you get little onions, but once in a
while you get a piece of ass soo good, it brings tears to your eyes.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of
Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having
salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zero

"thy King cometh" is a  prediction unsubstantiated or verified until the event happens.
Only then does the verse take on meaning and relevance because, for one, it proves you have spoken the truth, and two... you have saved your own ass.


Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

"Cthulhu fhtagn" is a  prediction unsubstantiated or verified until the stars once again come into proper alignment.
Only then does the verse take on meaning and relevance because, for one, it proves you have spoken the truth, and two... you're in deep shit.

On the other hand, "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur" can possibly be considered a practical experiment, albeit one that ends up similarily to your second point...:)

Date: 2009/02/08 08:09:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 07 2009,13:04)
Gen 11:28 And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.
Gen 11:31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
1Ch 11:35 Ahiam the son of Sacar the Hararite, Eliphal the son of Ur,
Neh 9:7 Thou [art] the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;

Where did Israel come from?

Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Gen 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
t/ur/tle
By chance, the Lord's prayer begins with "Our", O + ur , 15 + 39 = love (54) sooo, to begin with 'O' means:

Here, beginning the Lord's prayer, O is real.

O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

********************************
edit/add:
f/o/ur  
w/in/ds (23/23/23)
I Am + I Am + I Am =23 + 23 + 23= Jehovah (69)
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds,
O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
***********************************
I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Ch



ch/ur/ch
11/39/11  (11 hid in 3 measures)

Zero

Yeah, right...

Now you should try the same math with the words/names in their originial written forms (Hebraic, Arameic, even Greek if you want)...

Or do you think the buy-bull was intended to be translated to English from the beginning? I could perform the same stunt with the script of any given porn flick, I'm sure...

Playing with numbers is easy.

Date: 2009/02/08 08:32:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And I'd like to add that, having failed to read this whole thread at the moment, I might just have made a douchbag of myself, if your intents were just trivial.

My honest apologies if so...

Date: 2009/02/08 12:48:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (huwp @ Feb. 08 2009,12:32)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 07 2009,20:59)
Does it show that I a) watched the opening matches of the 6 Nations today and b) was disappointed by England's dull and dismal (yet winning) performance versus Italy?

Louis

First a belated congratulations on impending parenthood - your life will change HUGELY but it's just loads of fun!!!

The England - Italy game was pretty dreadful, the Ireland - France match a cracker and today's Scotland - Wales a decent game.  Next week should be fun.

BTW I liked your expression of evolutionary fitness as being the immediately least bad.

Kristine's percentages tale made me smile too!

Hwyl am y tro.

Huw

The French team lost it. It's not what it used to be. They've turned manky, just like the French soccer team. Go ahead and make commercials for yogurt and cookies, don't practice, loose...

Bring me back Dominici and Chabal!!!

Date: 2009/02/08 14:01:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (afarensis @ Feb. 08 2009,13:56)
In case any one is interested, I have fisked Luskin's post on his visit to Lucy  :)

Sorry ERV, I will pass on that one. I've had my tard dose for the week-end....

And yet again: If you don't know what you miss, you miss nothing!*


*That's why every missionary should be shot on sight...

Date: 2009/02/08 14:04:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oups, not ERV, Afarensis...Sorry again

Date: 2009/02/09 05:16:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

I was thinking "astronomically high" would mean something along the lines of smoking weed at the VLT.

Well, my bad...

Date: 2009/02/09 08:44:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 09 2009,08:32)
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 09 2009,07:45)
Excellent catch- thanks!

I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother bit of equivocation or a prettier fallacy than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of Tard lay all undiscovered before me.


I say! That's brilliant! Why didn't we think of this before?

Date: 2009/02/10 07:07:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, don't worry RB, I don't think this one will give up so easily!

I mean, He's got a chemist, and actual chemist (thanks Louis, I learned a lot), to spell it out to him, but still he comes back.

But at least, what he lacks in knowledge, he has made up for so far by engaging the "issue" in a so non-FTK way. Give him those 2 remaining strikes before we can all agree that he is a fully commited IDot.

Date: 2009/02/10 08:20:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 10 2009,07:32)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 10 2009,13:07)
Oh, don't worry RB, I don't think this one will give up so easily!

I mean, He's got a chemist, and actual chemist (thanks Louis, I learned a lot), to spell it out to him, but still he comes back.

But at least, what he lacks in knowledge, he has made up for so far by engaging the "issue" in a so non-FTK way. Give him those 2 remaining strikes before we can all agree that he is a fully commited IDot.

But I skipped over the really beautiful detail (one reason the technical post on bonding I want to do for Lou is taking me so long is because I am NOT skipping the detail. I want to do a good job. Sorry Lou).

If the guy is struggling at the differences between amino acid, amide/peptide bond, dipeptide/short chain polypeptide, and long chain polypeptide/protein or primary structure vs tertiary structure then what the hell is the point of discussing real mechanistic detail with him?* Bond strengths, rate constants, quantum mechanics and delocalisation, all of these and more illuminate the topic of abiogenesis wonderfully. It's vastly more detailed and complex than a few words from a numpty like me.

I know I bang on about it, but if anyone takes the time to understand the Soai reaction's kinetics it is truly fascinating. If anyone has read Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter (or any of his other stuff about strange loops etc) then it will be immediately obvious how relevant it is. The detail really is fun, it's not just for chemistry geeks like me.

Louis

*The occasional chemdraw scheme isn't too much of an imposition, but excessive equation editor bores the absolute arse off of me, the effort is only worth it for special cases!

Louis, I trully admire your commitment.

I only wish MY teachers were so good at their job.

RFJE should be gratefull for that. I am but a humble entertainer, going "down" in the Blipey class (Blipey, nothing diminishing there, I was merely pointing out the fact that non-scientists can be quite smart and informed), But even I, so simple and basicaly unbiased, can see where the evidence points, and the way it points is nowhere near what RFJE thinks/says/extrapolates...

Taking out the blindfolds would be a nice start, RFJE...

Date: 2009/02/10 23:44:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh boy! From chemistry to neuro-chemistry to cognitive studies to psychology.

Goalposts on wheels, RFJE?

What about reasserting your initial claims with your own words, in light of what Louis and Doc GH have so patiently explained to you citing many references?

Date: 2009/02/10 23:58:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And I forgot: some ranges of head trauma can actualy alter one's personality drasticaly. Do you really think it's your "eternal soul" being altered? what about people in a vegetative state? What happened to their "eternal souls"?

Just so you don't ponder too much and see where I'm coming from: I think bringing to actually fonctional people a concept of hell in which they'll burn eternaly if they don't follow a book is the quintescence of evil. Every missionary should be locked up.

There, no sympathy from me.

Date: 2009/02/11 06:28:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
yes, he/she does sound like a 4 years old.

I am inclined to take an issue regarding the music stuff. As a professional musician, I find no difficulty in understanding the source of my inspiration: imagination.

Imagination is an abstract thought. Since I do not have any PH.D or extent education in neuroscience, I cannot possibly detail the exact M.O of abstract thought process. But I know for sure that it initiates in the brain, and not some "holy-eternal-soul". Cognitive developement also plays a big part. Having been raised in an environnement surounded by a certain kind of music, I have some ease writting my music in a related style (i.e melodic and symphonic metal in my case, inspired by my living in a mostly classical and rock environnement). Don't ask me to write contemporary music, for I wouldn't even have a clue how to do it. Some people have talents in some areas, some have talents in others. I am not linking that to an "eternal soul", but rather to the wonders of our brain functions, combined with cultural and cognitive aspects...

The day you understand the "magic" in thit is the day you'll understand the wonders of Nature. Assuming your very own talent comes from some hypothetical deity of choice is diminishing to you and the entire human race.

My 0.01$ (because of the economical crises. I won't spend more on creo's)

Date: 2009/02/11 07:08:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
RB, I am not sure we yet had a clue about whether RFJE is male or female.

And as Al Pacino stated in the most excellent "the devil's advocate":

"Cemicaly speaking, love is no different from eating a large quantity of chocolate".

And this one just for fun and giggles:

"Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, fuckin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!"

I love tha movie :D

Date: 2009/02/11 08:03:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 11 2009,07:55)
For more, much more, RFJE blustering, please stop by and visit the UK Board I have linked to.

RFJE - If this is NOT you, please let us know.

kthnxbai
Female First Board

Looks like RFJE loves her /him some UK talk.  No wonder RFJE and Louis get along so well! :)

yeah, probably him/her/it.

But the sidebar ads are WAY too disruptive to be sure...

Date: 2009/02/11 08:13:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 10 2009,11:55)
Doc just mentioned to me that PBS is rerunning the Dover documentary tonight as well. (I think he said at 8 EST)

"Judgment Day" is available in full lenght on Google Video. Great documentary!

Date: 2009/02/11 09:09:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
RB, I stand corrected.

Kristine, ditto!

Date: 2009/02/11 10:14:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 11 2009,10:11)
Quote
The bigger question even than that is "HOW is the mind a product of the physical and chemical processes of the brain?".


Don't we know darn well from a lot of experience that 'the whole is more than the sum of its parts', and that that is more true than ever when we are talking about the human brain; the most(?) complex organ in the universe?

That's a bit presomptuous. We don't know THAT yet :)

Date: 2009/02/11 10:19:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry, was talking about the "most(?) complex". Didn't see the question mark.

I am due a right telling-of!

My bad.

Date: 2009/02/12 02:05:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Nice, Deadman! Maybe you should have added that we offer free bibles...? :D

Wes: I wanted to use a portion of that quote as my signature when I created my account, but no matter how I cut it, I couldn't come out with anything satisfactory that would fit in the characters limitation. Augustine of Hippo was a great thinker!

Date: 2009/02/12 02:29:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Master Darwin!

I've collected 26 bibles so far for the later bible-burning party...with jello!

Date: 2009/02/12 03:10:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And to celebrate this day, here's a nice one about speciation:

"A Mexican woodpecker and a Canadian woodpecker were in Mexico arguing about which place had the toughest trees. The Mexican woodpecker claimed Mexico had a tree that no woodpecker could peck.
The Canadian woodpecker accepted his challenge and promptly pecked a hole in the tree with no problem. The Mexican woodpecker was amazed.
The Canadian woodpecker then challenged the Mexican woodpecker to peck a tree in Canada that was absolutely 'impeckable' (a term frequently used by woodpeckers ). The Mexican woodpecker expressed confidence that he could do it and accepted the challenge.
The two flew to Canada where the Mexican woodpecker successfully pecked the so-called 'impeckable' tree almost without breaking a sweat.
Both woodpeckers were now terribly confused. How is it that the Canadian woodpecker was able to peck the Mexican tree, and the Mexican woodpecker was able to peck the Canadian tree, yet neither was able to peck the tree in their own country?
After much woodpecker pondering, they both came to the same conclusion:


Apparently, your pecker gets harder when you're away from home "

Date: 2009/02/12 06:56:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 12 2009,13:36)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 12 2009,06:25)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 12 2009,12:16)
RFJE, For the life of me, I do not know the difference between casting bread on the water and casting pearls to swine.  

Zero

Dogs? Swine?

Isn't it charming how our religious brethren view us? The humility is what impresses me the most.

Louis

Louis, think about it.  My post is an admonishment to RFJE, not you.
IMHO, no one has a wise answer.

Zero

I can safely say that a swine won't give a flying fuck about pearls.

Now go on with your definition of "pearls". If RFJE's religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit is "pearls", count me with the swines. I'd rather eat shit every day than gobble a single of your "pearls".

As for bread on water. Many little fishes could feed on it, eventualy attracting many other creatures that live on fishes...etc

There that's your difference!

Date: 2009/02/12 08:32:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 12 2009,15:12)
Schroedinger’s Dog:

>I'd rather eat shit every day than gobble a single of your "pearls".<
____

FYI, this thought, I jotted in my notes before you posted:
“A sower went forth to sew.  The first seeds were ‘gobbled’ up by the devil.”
I swear.
Zero

Your point being?

If we go in the strictly grammatical sense, "the devil gobbles". I said I'd rather eat shit every day than gobble a single of your "pearls".

Thus: those that gobble your "pearls" are of the devil. QED

Scriptures are useless in a rational argumentation, by the way.

Now let's stop poluting and go on with the discussion.

kthanksbye!

Date: 2009/02/12 12:31:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, I feel for Dr Dr. It's actually such a rarity that it should be mentioned.

His son's condition is not easy to bear, and he's trying to deal with it anyway he can. On this matter, he has some of my sympathy.

But then at the end of the article, comes this:

Quote
we talked in hushed tones about how easily religion can be abused, in this case to exploit our family. What do we tell our children? I’m still working on that one.


Now I kinda feel like the hospital is mocking charity...

Date: 2009/02/12 13:38:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks Doc, but still too long for a sig, and I prefer Augustin's phrasing  :D

Date: 2009/02/12 13:40:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wowowowow!

Jasper, are you infering that ftk might be... lying? (insert weird video of groundhog turning towards camera with scarry look and jumpy soundtrack here)

Date: 2009/02/12 13:55:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, Doc Bill. In regard to this post and the one on the RFJE topic, am I right in assuming that you have once again abused teh ol' bottle O' spirit?  :D

Date: 2009/02/12 14:25:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 12 2009,21:23)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 12 2009,19:40)
Wowowowow!

Jasper, are you infering that ftk might be... lying? (insert weird video of groundhog turning towards camera with scarry look and jumpy soundtrack here)

Not necessarily. There are at least three other options:

1) She's ignorant.

2) She's not very intelligent.

3) She's nucking futs.

Louis

oohhh! oooohhh!! Can I haz joker?


No?


Aw right, I'll take all three then...

Date: 2009/02/12 14:49:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (csadams @ Feb. 12 2009,21:34)
Quote (Jasper @ Feb. 12 2009,13:18)


Those numbers definitely aren't leaning in your favor, FtK.

Link

Wow - this is cool.  Check out the acceptance/rejection by education level.

The highest level of evo rejection is from those who have a some college, but didn't finish.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing?  Does just *attending* college make a person more likely to arrogantly dismiss conflicting knowledge, as compared with actually finishing college or going on for graduate work?

AFAICT, Jasper wasn't inferring/implying that FtK was any of those three options . . . s/he was just encouraging us to follow the evidence where it leads!  :)  :)  :)

I'd beg to differ on your last assumption:

AFAIK, and given a synthetical reading of this thread from page 1 to 177 so far in less than a month, I have come to the conclusion that ftk is not only the three proposed options, but also a whole oodleplex of other not-so-nice-yet-very-accurate definitions.

As for the graphs, let's all just admit that college students are slackers!  :p

Date: 2009/02/13 00:32:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I love that part in the comments on Luskin's blattering:

Quote
If throwing shoes as a symbol of disrespect was practiced in the US The Discovery Institute would have received a shoe closet that would make even Imelda Marcos jealous.


:D  :D  :D

Date: 2009/02/13 03:15:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 13 2009,10:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7zLGJE9EY

Nice :)

Date: 2009/02/13 04:20:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Interesting interview of Adam Gopnik about his new book "Angels and Ages" in yesterday night's Colbert Report. The book is mainly exploring Darwin's and Lincoln's legacy...

Colbert report 02/12/2009

Date: 2009/02/13 05:24:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OT: is it just me, or is there something wrong with the bathroom wall/my browser?

Something like 4 or 5 posts just disapeared, and the whole thread seems to be moving in odd ways...

Date: 2009/02/13 05:27:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok Louis, thanks, I will try...

Date: 2009/02/13 05:33:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It's working again now :)

Back to topic:

Quote
ETA: P.P.S. I also love RFJE's use of the word "gentle". The roughness, lack of gentleness, was not an issue. The blinding ignorance, lack of humility, rampant sanctimonious arrogance and repetition of fallacious bullshit was the issue. Be a rough as you like, just have the intellectual muscle to back it up.


Louis' right. Lookit: WE SHARE A COMMON ANCESTER WITH TEH MONKEYS, DUMBASS!!!!!1111!!one

See? That's not very "gentle", but if I am at least asked to bask it up, I can...

Date: 2009/02/13 07:47:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Ftk @ Feb. 13 2009,14:40)
Quote (csadams @ Feb. 12 2009,14:34)
Quote (Jasper @ Feb. 12 2009,13:18)


Those numbers definitely aren't leaning in your favor, FtK.

Link

Wow - this is cool.  Check out the acceptance/rejection by education level.

The highest level of evo rejection is from those who have some college, but didn't finish.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing?  Does just *attending* college make a person more likely to arrogantly dismiss conflicting knowledge, as compared with actually finishing college or going on for graduate work?

AFAICT, Jasper wasn't inferring/implying that FtK was any of those three options . . . s/he was just encouraging us to follow the evidence where it leads!  :)  :)  :)

edited for idiotic grammar mistake

Yo Cheryl,

Don't get too excited there...the way that poll was worded I would be compelled to answer yes to the question "Do you believe in the theory of evolution".

What a moronic way to word the stupid poll...of course I believe in the theory of evolution...duh.  Obviously the mechanisms of evolution are detectible in regard to adaptation or microevolutionary change.  Christ, the people who write some of these polls are idiotic...or Darwinian...:)  Same difference.  The whole scope of Darwinian evolution is not that simplistic.  

*FtK sticks her tongue out at *all* of you*

You know, you have yet to prove that you "believe" it. Actually, you have to prove that you understand anything about science. Someone citing Walt Brown as an expert is not likely to be considered relevant.

We share a common ancestry with actual great apes. Share your thoughts, please, do so!

Date: 2009/02/13 09:21:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 13 2009,16:09)
Even though this is a dedicated FtK thread, she is just trolling for attention here. In that light, it might be useful if we would just ignore her here, as we should do for any other troll.

We know that she will not engage in any critical thinking. We know that she will revert to insults at the slightest provocation; in fact her entire last comment was one long insult.

I propose we ignore her just to see how shrill she will get...

Agreed.

So Dave, what didya do today? I myself got on with my season 2 of "Californication"...

I also walked Cynthia, my Tiktaalik, a few yards but she became angry when no water was found.

Damn those transitionals!

:p

Date: 2009/02/14 05:29:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Feb. 14 2009,12:25)

Awwwww!!!

TEH CUTE!!! Iz CANT STAND IT!

Date: 2009/02/14 06:44:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 14 2009,13:33)
On Sunday, he'll send a prayer of thanksgiving up to the pastor to read in front of the congregation thanking the Lord for allowing him to touch the hearts of evilutionists.  Then he'll regale a few of his friends with tales of his triumph around the donut table in the annex before Sunday school.

You forgot to add: he'll probably touch himself as well...

Sorry, I don't take kindly to pious junk anymore!

Date: 2009/02/14 07:13:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, another "preacher".

Did this guy really deserve his own thread?

Date: 2009/02/14 09:38:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wow! First, that sounds like a perfect FTK impression (family excuse to runa away included).

Second, do you realise that by the very way you came here, you look like a pedophile outside a school?

"Here, scientist, lookit what I've got for you, science stuff"

Then it all goes manky when you introduce us to your "little friend"...

Date: 2009/02/15 10:05:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 15 2009,15:38)
Here we go 'round the mulberry bush,
The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush.
Here we go 'round the mulberry bush,
So early in the morning.

This is the way we do some science,
Do some science, do some science.
This is the way we do some science,
So early Monday morning.

This is when Dan denies the facts,
Denies the facts, denies the facts.
This is when Dan denies the facts,
So early Tuesday morning.

This is how flowers evolve new things,
Evolve new things, evolve new things.
This is how flowers evolve new things,
So early Wednesday morning.

This is when Dan tries ignorance,
Ignorance, ignorance.
This is when Dan tries ignorance,
So early Thursday morning.

Here are some citrate eating bugs,
Eating bugs, eating bugs.
Here are some citrate eating bugs,
So early Friday morning.

This is when Dan appeals to faith,
Appeals to faith, appeals to faith.
This is when Dan appeals to faith,
So early Saturday morning.

This is the way we get pissed off,
Get pissed off, get pissed off.
This is the way we get pissed off,
So early Sunday morning.


With apologies to scansion, verse, doggerel and poetry everywhere

Louis

Beautiful, just beautiful! *dabs eyes*

But we don't care 'cos Dan's at church,
Dan's at church, Dan's at church.
But we don't care 'cos Dan's at church,
So early Sunday morning.


Sorry, I had to bring that verse...

Date: 2009/02/15 10:25:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would probably have avoided the allusion as well, but the simple fact that his ideas and reactions here come from "church", it somewhat becomes relevant, at least I think.

Date: 2009/02/15 13:08:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
From my own layman's point of view, here is how I would see the debate:

Science is trying to tell a story, the story of life, the Universe and everything (42, anyone?). It does so by working hypothesis, based upon evidence, observation, predictions and falsifiability.

IDC, on the other hand, is trying to advertise for its sunday brunch at the church, presenting none of the work required  to be scientific.

If William Shakespeare was Science, IDC would be the local preacher trying to break each and every night into William's office to add a Deus Ex machina to Hamlet.

Sure, it would be fun by entertainement standards, and would bring many to the congregation. But in the end no one would know what really happened to Claudius.

Just a thought, my 0.02$, etc...

Date: 2009/02/15 13:38:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 15 2009,20:29)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 15 2009,13:57)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 14 2009,08:26)
I know, don't feed the troll.  Satan is making me do this!

Hey, Mayberry RFD, you wrote:


   
Quote
Then when one of your own scientists who is trained by evolutionary science, and is highly credentialed, turns  and says, "You guys, there's too many problems with this theory and I really think there is some design implications here in this thing I'm studying--then suddenly--he is no longer a scientist.  SO let's take away his funding, his status in the community, and then ridicule him if he is funded by Christians who believe in a designer.


Who are you referring to?

No one. I think it's just one a them parables.

You know, to show us how very bad it would be if that kind of thing DID happen.

So a fantasy scenario proves we're all bad people. :angry:

I'm telling you, between that and the graph/avatar, I smell and AFDavey Doodles about.

mmmhhh... I couldn't say. No threats of sending his bitches on our collective asses, no busting about his kung-fu/kendo/drunken boxing habilities...

Copycat as copy does (whatever THAT means) :)

Date: 2009/02/15 13:53:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok. Lucky for you, I went through that thread before, so the shock was not "projective".

But thanks for the tard-drive. It's not as if I am not already suffering on FTK's thread (page 214 so far, and that stuff with Skatje almost made me want to nuke Kansas! Sorry Dave, casualties of war).

Date: 2009/02/15 13:56:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I've always thought that IDC was to Science what The Da-Vinci Code was to litterature:









CRAAAAAAPPPP!!!

Date: 2009/02/15 14:55:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 15 2009,21:46)
If RFJE holds to usual religious antievolutionist form, trying to deal with theistic evolution and theistic evolutionists is going to be a huge problem for him.

Agreed 100%

Wes, as the "master of this venue", I hope you will forgive me for some of my ascerbic comments towards religion. I do not wish to mock anyone's belief, but I trully think that the average fundie's way of thinking/worshipping is in no way similar to yours (or any other theist scientist on this board).

It just blows my mind that smart people can easily reconcile their personal beliefs with mainstream science whereas others just seem stuck 500 years ago (at least).

Date: 2009/02/16 05:22:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Maybe not the appropriate topic, but hey, feel free to move this somewhere else.

I've stumbled upon this nice series of documentaries about wildlife in Australia. Just thought I'd share the link. (This is a link to part one, but normaly all four parts follow each other in the right-hand menu):

Autralia's wildlife

I found it quite interesting. (3 and a half hours, mind you)

Date: 2009/02/16 06:33:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
As the  would say, Bloodhound Gang "you can't teach an old god new tricks".

Date: 2009/02/16 06:34:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Damn! Missed my edit! I can has edit buttun?

Date: 2009/02/16 06:39:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Of course, I meant "as the Bloodhound gang would say"...

Edit buttun? Pleeease?  :D

Date: 2009/02/16 11:41:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 16 2009,18:30)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 16 2009,06:39)
Of course, I meant "as the Bloodhound gang would say"...

Edit buttun? Pleeease?  :D

No.  Bad Dog!  :angry:

:p

Date: 2009/02/17 12:32:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sometimes, you just have to stop for a moment and wonder at the infinite stupidity of the ID movement.

Let's say I have a theory that bananas are a kind of fish. I will write books about it, create my own Banana Institute to promote the idea, try to push it in nutrition classes, get my ass handed to me, complain about the evil fruity conspiracy not willing to Teach The Controversy© and finally cry "oppresion" because the institutions refuse to take my claims, or its defenders, seriously.

Academic freedom, yeah. These guys are a tablecloth and a ham sandwich short of a picnic...

Date: 2009/02/17 12:35:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
ooohhh!!! A bottle of single malt if you can get a pic of him wearing a "I love atheists" shirt*!

*A "PZ RULEZ!!!" would do, too.

Date: 2009/02/17 17:04:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 17 2009,22:46)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 17 2009,13:55)
I would suggest recording whatever audio/visual stuff they use so we have a record of who they swiped what from.

I have a small digital recorder*  I picked up from an empty desk when we were vacating a building I had worked in. It supposedly can record up to 290 minutes. Alas, I pulled the instructions down of the intertubes and it doesn't appear to have a means of downloading into a computer.**

* It is of the "note to self, LOL the cat when you get home" variety. I've never used it so I have no idea how it would work in a lecture setting.

** Unless someone knows how to take the output meant for an ear-piece and get that into a computer.

Regarding connections, the best I could offer is to use a minijack-minijack connector, and plug your recording device directly to your laptop's audio-in plug.

Date: 2009/02/18 04:49:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
To put a slight emphasis on the WAAAAAAmbulance:

Genesis with Ricky Gervais

Sorry, had to put that one somewhere. Bathroom Wall, here I cooooome!

Date: 2009/02/18 12:11:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire Bob! Pour les putes et le caviar, vois ça à l'accueil...

Date: 2009/02/18 16:22:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 18 2009,22:54)
I happened to read that piece by Casey directly after this:How to respond to requests to debate creationists

That. Is. Brilliant!

Date: 2009/02/18 17:14:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 19 2009,00:07)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 18 2009,23:01)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 18 2009,16:54)
Since I'm musing away I wondered what other people think. My first tongue [...] was [...] Ben Stein ....

Here is what I think.


Crikey! How long have you been waiting to use THAT LOLcat. Bravo! I'll let you have that one for free.*

Louis

*Which is what your mum said....DAMN! I knew I couldn't keep it up**

**Which is what you said....DAMN!

Sorry, I have to say it, but Louis, you gave me my best internet sincere laugh in WEEKS!

It is always nice, while depressingly roaming through IDiocity, to have such pearls of wit.

Thank you for what you're doing.*






*Including, but not limited to, Carlson's mom

Date: 2009/02/18 17:20:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just a quick word to say that today I've watched, for the first time, Dawkins' series of lectures for the 1991 Royal Society christmas event.

I found it highly enjoyable, most of all the practical exemples (in France, we have a show for kids called "c'est pas sorcier" using the same kind of exemples).

Anyway, I recommend this series, available on youtube, for those who want to familiarise their children with science and evolution. And it's also good for the layman, I should add (and there is a nice appearance by Douglas Adams in the 4th part).

Date: 2009/02/19 01:14:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh boy. He IS stoopid!

Date: 2009/02/19 01:36:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Please, talk science or go preach-trolling somewhere else.

kaythnxbye!

Date: 2009/02/19 01:57:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
There are also a lot of people screaming out their lungs that they have been abducted by UFOs. Doesn't prevent me from sleeping, though.

And just one thing: do you really ACTUALLY think you can sway anyone around here with god talk? I've been raised in a roman catholic family, t's been 31 years now, and they couldn't sway me. So I highly doubt someone like you could.

May you be forever touched by His Noodly Appendage.

Date: 2009/02/19 05:02:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (BWE @ Feb. 19 2009,11:58)
Can I be the first to point out that you have taken the phrase 'fractally wrong' into a new dimension?

I'd be prone to point out that either Louis or Albatrossity2 pinned this rather well-fiting on RFJE already, although I might be mistaken, what with catching on with my ftk thread-reading...

Date: 2009/02/19 06:56:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 19 2009,13:46)
Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 18 2009,23:43)
A. Just an introductory point:  Could someone solve this equation for me.  2xyz + 6(a - b) - 5x=c
Surely someone could solve this and give me the answer that I'm thinking in my mind...

The vinaigrette, please. What is your primordial soup today?

Awww, goody, I find teh ultimate tool!

tard translator

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A!!11!1 WTF LOL JUST AN INTRODUC2RY POINT CUD SOM3ONA SOLVE THES EQUATION FOR ME!!!1!! 2XYZ + 6(A - B) - 5X=C
SURELEY SOMEON3 CUD SOLV3 THES AND GIEV ME DA ANSWAR TAHT IMM THINKNG IN MAH MIND.!1111!!1!!!!!1!!!11 OMG WTF LOL


I gotta luv teh intretube!

Shame there's no "stupid to english" translator. It could help a lot around here...

Date: 2009/02/19 18:17:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JLT @ Feb. 20 2009,00:25)
OT but not really OT:

Source: LOLGod

:D  :D  :D

That LolGod site is great! Thanks JLT

Date: 2009/02/19 19:12:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
goalpost tectonics


I LIKE that!

Date: 2009/02/20 04:55:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh boy!

BWE: the idea is sound, but for the love of FSM, wait 'till you've sobered up, please.  :D

When your autocorrect is fixed, maybe you could edit your post for more readability?

By the way, on a forum I used to post on, they had a "drunken posting" thread. That would be a good idea, and would highly increase my post ratio...

Date: 2009/02/20 05:30:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
WW is almost as funny as FTK, or an appointment at the dentist.

ps: if Lou reads (haha! Lou Reed's, I kill myself), could you please consider granting me an edit button? English is not my first language and it might be good for me to be able to correct my spelling sometimes.

Thanks.

Date: 2009/02/20 06:56:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 20 2009,13:42)
Quote (BWE @ Feb. 20 2009,05:39)
Natural non water birth is like having a big old paratrooper style chute you have to open at like 200m or so.

THAT would pop the baby right out.

A friend I used to jump with once lost her contraceptive device (don't know the english term, in french it's sterilet) due to a very hard opening.

mmmhhh....yeah, could work all right.

Date: 2009/02/20 07:51:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 20 2009,14:28)
mmmhhh....yeah, could work all right.[/quote]
It's called an IUD (inter uterine device) or coil (little wiggly shaped device that goes into the uterus and prevents implantation).

Yep, that's the bunny. From what I understand, it didn't actually leave the premices, but got displaced in a bad way.

Date: 2009/02/20 10:29:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 20 2009,17:09)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 20 2009,05:30)
WW is almost as funny as FTK, or an appointment at the dentist.

ps: if Lou reads (haha! Lou Reed's, I kill myself), could you please consider granting me an edit button? English is not my first language and it might be good for me to be able to correct my spelling sometimes.

Thanks.

I dunno...

It is totally unfair and a stunning indictment of the American Educational System that you and JLT write better English than me.  Hell even HUWP writes better than me - and he's WELSH!

Seriously - congrats to you - good luck on the edit button - You should PM Wes and/or Lou FCD

Thanks J-Dog.

And I guess Thanks Lou or Wes, since now I HAZ EDIT BUTTUN!!!

That's gonna save me a lot of doubleposts.

By the way, I was idly surfing on google earth when I noticed that Rome Reborn have decided to share their great project with all google earth users (i.e, a 3D reconstruction of Rome circa 170 C.E). Highly enjoyable!

Date: 2009/02/20 12:07:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
AAAAHHHH!!! TEH LUSKIN!!!!!

Date: 2009/02/20 13:20:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Louis, you might need this ---->

Date: 2009/02/20 13:41:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 20 2009,20:34)
Merci beaucoup, mon ami. Mais je n'ai pas besoin de ce chose. Les enfants ici sont malheureusement stupides.

Louis

P.S. My written French has seriously suffered, hell my French has suffered because I simply don't practice enough. And verlan has just confused the issue. ;-)

Wow! You did well. Almost perfect (only almost because "chose" is female and should be preceded by "cette"). Congrats!

Date: 2009/02/20 15:57:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Speaking of doe, it's after watching Bambi again that I came to realize that Anakin Skywalker is a cry-mommy pussy.

Edit: Changed "wimp" to "pussy", 'cos I wasn't sure of the spelling, and anyway pussy sounds better.*


*Never smelled a wimp, so I can't judge on that.

Date: 2009/02/20 16:19:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ Feb. 20 2009,23:06)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 20 2009,16:57)
Speaking of doe, it's after watching Bambi again that I came to realize that Anakin Skywalker is a cry-mommy pussy.

Edit: Changed "wimp" to "pussy", 'cos I wasn't sure of the spelling, and anyway pussy sounds better.*


*Never smelled a wimp, so I can't judge on that.

You dog.



As an afterthought, maybe I should have put "Shame teh pussy gets all teh attenshun" to make it more obvious.

Damn!

Date: 2009/02/20 18:00:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 20 2009,20:50)
[snip]If Wales get passed France next weekend[snip]

That's a given. France's golden age has gone by, unflourished and unexploited (that's a sneaky way of saying "we got lucky once or twice", by the way).

Anyroad, I just saw that FTK's thread hasn't been touched in 5 days (dirty jokes allowed), and is almost out of the first page. Shall we do something about it?*

*Not!

Date: 2009/02/20 18:42:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
To be blunt, 2007 should have been France's year. SA/NZ were always going to be tough competitors but France were very strong and choked it.


Please, once it's sunk in, don't twist it. It only hurts more (I want Dominici back!).

But honestly, have you seen our melee work lately? To shame, I tell you, to shame!

Date: 2009/02/21 02:13:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 21 2009,04:17)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 20 2009,18:00)
Anyroad, I just saw that FTK's thread hasn't been touched in 5 days (dirty jokes allowed), and is almost out of the first page. Shall we do something about it?*

*Not!

No. Let it slide into oblivion, thanks.

In case you need a fix of good ol' Topeka Kansas tard, try this. These folks are also "for the kids"*


*Not

Wow! Just wow!

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"Wow," she said. "I am grateful that a board is responsive to their community. I think this is a great day for minors in the community. I think this speaks volumes."


I'm not so sure the minors will feel the same way. Or the community, for that matter. Something stinks in Churchland.

Date: 2009/02/21 06:04:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 21 2009,12:55)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 21 2009,04:10)
I can only assume it's a virgin birth.

That's what Dnmlthr was getting at.

However, not matter how disgusting the thought might be, this is not a case of parthenogenesis. Despite well over a decade in the lab and frequent contact with some very nasty chemicals indeed, my team of swimming geniuses appear to be fully functional. Hurrah! Go team!

Louis

I perceived Dnmlthr's opinion differently. In regard to what was being said by all the experienced dads here, he'd rather everyone reproduced by parthenogenesis instead of going through the stressful and painful process of regular childbirth.

I think that's the main reason why he apologized if he somehow came out as a jerk.

Date: 2009/02/21 06:41:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, my bad, I did a bad mistake.

I wasn't thinking parthenogenesis, but division. Division is actualy the word he uses.

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I'm always happy to hear of new developments in mammalian reproduction by means of division! The alternative is both too implausible and frightening to ponder.


If you look at his phrase as a general statement, and not something directed at you, and in light of the great birth-tales that preceded it, I think the meaning is quite different.

Anyway, I'm all for the pub too, and if I can divide while having a beer, I won't be one to complain about having a new drinking buddy...:)

Date: 2009/02/21 06:52:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Pastis?


I've overdosed on that a few years ago, but I'm quite partial to a nice glass of red wine before starting the real binge.

Date: 2009/02/21 07:15:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'm downloading the French match right now (didn't tape it) for further analysis.

But in all fairness, I think they will break down in the long run.

And as for Dominici's selfishness, I agree totaly. But he's never been the only one, and he was a GREAT runner.

Date: 2009/02/21 07:37:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I like a mellow Merlot or a mid-young Cabernet Sauvignon. Bordeaux is quite nice as a general dinner wine, but most of all I'm in for Côtes du Rhône.

In 2005, I became co-godfather of a new type of Côtes du Rhones with my skydiving team. The wine is (was? I'm not sure it still exists) "Autrement: Ambiance Givrée". It is a wine that is targeting young adults for recreational purposes (I mean, not something you'd like on your table alongside a nice dinner. When we birthed and baptised it, it made quite a success. Not too sweet, but not too harsh either. And most weird, wether it was white, rosé or red, it was to be served at a temperature around 12°C.

The wine was made in St Cecile les Vignes.

Ahhh, memories...

EDIT: 12°, not 2

Date: 2009/02/21 07:41:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 21 2009,14:34)
and just about any red from Chile.

That is so very true. Chile wine is excellent.

Another of my favorites is any wine from the Friuli region (IT). I am lucky enough to go there twice a year, and whatever you have for dinner, these wines will fit like a glove. Very smooth, fruity (yet not too much), and 100% headache/bellyache proof.

Date: 2009/02/21 14:47:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
So, in a way, Jack Inhof is what UD is all about.


Well, nothing new there...

Date: 2009/02/21 14:54:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I watch the OU-Baylor women's basketball game. I hope to have at least part of them up tonight


You naughty, you!

Edit: quote-mining, I has it!

Date: 2009/02/22 07:17:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Carlson, thanks a lot for the heads-up so far. Nothing really new, but it's always interesting to keep updated about the "latest" ID strategies.

Can't wait for part the fourth. Your report reads better than any TV novellas.

Thanks again, that's commitment!

Date: 2009/02/22 07:51:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 22 2009,14:28)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 22 2009,07:17)
Carlson, thanks a lot for the heads-up so far. Nothing really new, but it's always interesting to keep updated about the "latest" ID strategies.

True, I didn't really hear anything new.  But, I found the structure of West's presentation cleverly crafted to evoke specific emotional reactions in the audience and documenting this has really reinforced, for me, West's role as a propagandist. Documenting this has been an interesting exercise that I have enjoyed.  Unfortunately, you guys get to suffer through my musings. I am not nearly as entertaining as Abbie is.
 
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Can't wait for part the fourth. Your report reads better than any TV novellas.

Just wait for the Abbie on Casey scene.  HAWT!!!!

I think PR and propaganda have been ID's strongest (only?) tool so far. No one could deny that West, Behe or even Dembsky (up to a point) are well versed in the craft of public speaches. But by documenting as much of it as possible, the holes and fallacies come out stronger, and a quick debunk is thus made easier.

Your musings are actualy welcome, as they can enlighten the lurker or the casual poster (such as myself) by dissecting and pointing out something that is not always obvious at first sight. That's the beauty of such forums.

As for Abbie, I've been reading her lattest posts on ERV, and the seksyhawt factor sure helps. A cross examination of both your reports will be something to keep and balance against whatever the IDiots can muster.

Date: 2009/02/22 08:54:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I think I just lost a significant amount of braincells, reading West's blabbering. It comes to the point where it almost hurts.

Next episode (I hope):

-Is science the work of the Devil?
-Did God create the world using C++ or Python?
-Does Luskin have tits?

Can't wait. What's the rate for neuronal regeneration again? I have to be careful...

Date: 2009/02/22 12:19:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Feb. 22 2009,19:04)
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 20 2009,21:04)
The problem (which should be obvious) with the prediction that we'll never figure it out, is that unanswered questions are expected regardless of which model is correct. Therefore the mere existence of unanswered questions can't distinguish between them.

So after 150+ years of study, science has explained the evolution of exactly zero biological systems.  That's a lot of unanswered questions!
   
Quote
Besides which, the position that "nature can't do that" directly implies that God would be unable to arrange for nature to do that, which contradicts the assumption that God is omnipotent.

Henry

Notice that I usually attach the term "undirected" to the term "natural".  I have no problem believing that God gave us both random and non-random evolutionary mechanisms, but I don't believe the random mechanisms caused any of the macroevolutionary events.

You are flying high on bullshit now.



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So after 150+ years of study, science has explained the evolution of exactly zero biological systems.  That's a lot of unanswered questions!


I think it has been done. Sadly, I am not familiar enough with the most recent studies. But if you need pathways that will stand the course of scrutiny, and be validated by evidence, you can always take a look at the evolutionary pathway of whales or horses. The thing is, although these pathways are not yet 100% complete, THEY WORK! They have confirmed predictions based on evolutionary theory, and more discoveries will probably validate it some more. If something doesn't, I think a lot of us here will have simultanious ejaculations due to the sheer prospect of a new view on these mechanisms.

Science isn't closed, far from it. But to be able to advance science, you have to offer science, not magic.



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Notice that I usually attach the term "undirected" to the term "natural".  I have no problem believing that God gave us both random and non-random evolutionary mechanisms, but I don't believe the random mechanisms caused any of the macroevolutionary events.


This sentence, in and of itself, is totaly unconsistent. How can you ever prove that God had anything to do with "random/non-random" mechanisms? If you can, fine, sounds like science, then just state your case. If you can't, forget it, this is not science...

Date: 2009/02/22 12:51:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Feb. 22 2009,19:36)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 20 2009,19:12)
   
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Feb. 20 2009,18:30)
What part of that is hypocritical?

The part where you are hypocritical. If you want to read that previous comment over again and see if you can figure it out, I'll wait.  Or I can highlight it again, like this:

Demanding detailed mechanisms, precursors and pathways from others. while allowing yourself to indulge in a mechanism-free, precursor-free and pathway-free exercise in goalpost tectonics is hypocrisy.

If you keep snipping my reasoning for such then - yeah - it looks hypocritical.  If you actually look at my explanation, it then becomes crystal clear that it is consistent reasoning rather than hypocrisy.  I don't expect you to go that far.

Still want to talk about flowers?

Please, don't try to compete with biologists, you don't have the knowledge or the stamina. try to learn something instead, and let the people who have studied these things enlighten you.

I mean, I'm an atheist, but if there really is a life after death, I'd rather spend it in the flames of hell with the likes of Darwin, Caesar and all those who died before your christ came around than with a single one of you "rightful" christians.

Do the math, think for youself, and stop using strawmen.

And about the 10 commandments, I don't know who the hell is this guy "Thou", but his life sounds like shit!*

*General anti-religious offence intended. Blame me, I'm just human!

Date: 2009/02/22 13:02:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Excuse me, honnest request. I am not familiar with Schindewolf's writings. But, does he get into Stromatolites?

Date: 2009/02/22 14:11:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 22 2009,21:03)
To everyone who is responding to fill in the gaps in my knowledge, I have only one thing to say:


That's so gay! But I'm okay with gay, so carry on..

Date: 2009/02/22 14:18:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
B) Formed from stuff in space like wot them in the white coats pretend it was, they don't know nuffink them scuentists


Ohhh! pure Pratchett Troll talk. Me likes!

Date: 2009/02/24 07:28:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy "welcome to this most crappy world" day Adaman!

And many more...

Wherever you go, just keep this thought close by: You, like everyone else, have at least once touched someone's vagina with both ears at once. A comforting thought...

:p

Date: 2009/02/26 01:56:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
There is a rumour you'll then have to speak French. You can honour the cheese eating surrender monkeys - the flavour and smell of garlic will be your armour if we invade again.


Hey!  :angry:

Date: 2009/02/27 03:42:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Bon anniv' Ras!

Date: 2009/03/01 04:59:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (huwp @ Feb. 28 2009,23:46)
As we've mentioned rugby a few times here - may I congratulate any French people here on their victory over my beloved Wales on Friday.  It was an excellent game; both teams played well but the right team won on the night.

The Ireland-England game today was dismal but again the better team won.  Honestly, how do England ever expect to win if they keep getting players sin-binned?

It looks as if it may well be a Grand Slam (for Ireland) versus a Triple Crown (for Wales) decider in a few weeks and that game could well be a corker.

Huw

Oh, so we DID win?!?

I was away in the mountains, so I missed it. I will try to download it this afternoon.

France...winning...mmmhhh...interesting...

Date: 2009/03/04 01:39:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 04 2009,03:51)
Well Daniel?  Are you going to come back or are you going to avoid these questions?

Seems you run away when your idea of a god is questioned.  To me, it seems you are of little faith.  If your faith was strong, you'd be able to respond intelligently, factually and with vigor.

I see nothing like that in you.

Well, that's the thing, i'nit?

When you see the FTKs, RFJEs and Denials of the world, spending all their time trying to fight off science because it doesn't comply to their beliefs, you can bet your ass that it's because their faith is pretty weak.

Someone strong in faith shouldn't feel threatened by anything. And someone strong in faith shouldn't feel the need to try and indoctrinate others, because their faith is so strong they KNOW it to be the ultimate thruth, and thus are confident that others will come to the same conclusion eventualy.

Denial and co. are nothing more than your usual street corner fraud, and their faith is as solid as a chocolate kettle.

Edited to correct a typo.

Date: 2009/03/04 05:32:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 03 2009,08:55)
Wolfie, I hope you have all of 20 years before menopause. My wife and I got to share "menopause in a bottle," AKA  tamoxifen following her first mastectomy. Her cancer has returned 5 years following a second mastectomy, and is unfortunately now considered incurable. She takes the estrogen blocker Arimidex, which so far has actually reduced the size and number of active sites in her lymph nodes, and so far there are no brain, lung or liver tumors (the next most likely sites for secondary breast cancers).

We are hopeful that with the anti-science swine out of the White House, medical research will catch-up in time to save her, and millions of other women's lives.

I'm sorry to hear that, Dr G.

Yet, sadly, it brings to light the inherent problems of fighting against science for ideological and theological reasons. No amount of "Jesus loves you" can replace an able lab with able scientists using all the WORKING tools they can to help those who are in pain.

What would be the state of the world if everyone shared, for exemple, the beliefs of Jehovah witnesses about blood transfusion. The more you think about it, the more crazy it looks, and really gives the best arguments against blind religious fanatism.

Although I would not wish harm to anyone, I wonder what would be your average IDCreationist's reaction if confronted with such an issue.

I kinda remember about Dr Dr writing a desastrous account of his visit to a "healing preacher" with his wife and his son who is afflicted with Down syndrome.

I wish this kind of tragedy would open one's mind, but sadly it rarely does.

Anyway, hold fast, Dr G!

Date: 2009/03/04 14:44:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 04 2009,14:15)
Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 04 2009,14:58)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 04 2009,03:07)
(snip)

I think that is a "yes". So Daniel, who had VD on the Ark?

The sheep had the STDs.

Then men of old were just too happy to get some "fresh mutton".

Daniel is an individual NOT A SHEEP

Thanks k.e, now I feel obliged to blow the dust off my Life Of Brian DVD!

See ya on the bright side of life!

Date: 2009/03/04 18:31:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Dunt wurry Dr. G. You haz experienssed ze quantum!

You can never know if you haz teh edit button until you open teh box.

As for that stupid cat, there are only 3 options:

-dead
-alive
-bloody furious

Pick yours :)

Date: 2009/03/04 18:32:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
mmmh....still a kiddy foundler, then...

Date: 2009/03/04 18:46:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The same problem occured to me once today. When the page came back to my pending post with the "post" button grayed out, I went to the "preview post" button, then proceeded and it worked.

ps: I haven't changed anything to my profile...

Date: 2009/03/04 19:24:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yep, the point being that we have a lot of "metaphorical" pictures of what evolution was doing at a given point: Fossile record and all that. We know that evolution was no titty twister.

What about you, Denial?

Date: 2009/03/05 05:58:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just a quick question here, 'coz I don't know where to ask it.

What's the general consensus from YECs about the chalk cliffs of south-eastern England?

What's Brown's explanation?

Date: 2009/03/05 07:41:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
ooohhh! Goody!

Joyeux anniversaire, et plein de bonheur!

Date: 2009/03/12 14:52:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hi everyone, I'm back!

Did you miss me? Don't worry, you'll have time to reload.

My grand-father commited suicide last monday, so I had to go to the funeral and spend a few days with my mom in Perigueux.

While there I've visited the (nicest ever) gallo-roman museum of Vesunna, and have gone to Rocamadour for a few falconry shows. Impressive stuff. I'm thinking about going into this a bit.

So, anyway, I'm happy to be back!

Date: 2009/03/12 16:08:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ Mar. 12 2009,22:02)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 12 2009,15:52)
Hi everyone, I'm back!

Did you miss me? Don't worry, you'll have time to reload.

My grand-father commited suicide last monday, so I had to go to the funeral and spend a few days with my mom in Perigueux.

While there I've visited the (nicest ever) gallo-roman museum of Vesunna, and have gone to Rocamadour for a few falconry shows. Impressive stuff. I'm thinking about going into this a bit.

So, anyway, I'm happy to be back!

Welcome back.

I missed you.

Thanks Khan.

But as said before, you still have time to reload. I won't move, promise!

Date: 2009/03/17 02:12:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And I live 15 kilometers from Monte Carlo, but I'm not sure that will help...

Date: 2009/03/17 07:31:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
yep, he's done it!

pope benedict XVI said, while on his flight to Africa, that distributing condoms is not a solution to AIDS.

The catholic church is fighting AIDS through abstinence.

Article in french

I'm very, very angry right now!

ps: lake of caps voluntary, this scum doesn't deserve any.

Date: 2009/03/17 07:40:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The trully Touched wears full Pirate regalia, you heathen fool!  :D

See? For this I use caps...

Date: 2009/03/17 07:50:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, what schism do you come from? Because according to the Most Holly Gospel of the FSM, it's Pirate regalia all the way!

Just saying, and may you be Touched anyway... :)

Date: 2009/03/17 08:12:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
We'd better carry out this discussion on a FSM website. We've gone WAY off topic (hard for the BW, but still).

Let's get back to benedict, if you will...

Date: 2009/03/17 08:56:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 17 2009,15:00)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 17 2009,08:12)
And I live 15 kilometers from Monte Carlo, but I'm not sure that will help...

It will help with the after party...

Sadly RTH I am not an expert in the areas you require. My apologies for not being sufficiently educated in areas of immediate use to you. I shall of course go away and think very hard about what I've done.

Louis

Oh, right! AND I've played Risk a lot as a kid and teenager...

happy to help!

Date: 2009/03/18 02:22:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Mar. 18 2009,01:52)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Mar. 17 2009,17:44)
Apparently deadman, your definition of "pathway" is different from mine.  My definition involves laying out the intermediate steps.  Yours seems to only deal with the beginning and the end, IOW, as long as we have a possible beginning, and a known end, you seem to think we have a "pathway" between them.

Until we're on the same page on that issue, we're just going to argue in circles.

I'll agree that the scientific community has lots of "pathways" that meet your definition.  They have none (to my knowledge) that meet mine.

Apparently your notion of personal initiative in investigation of said pathway that might meet your criteria is minimal at best, Daniel.

Answer me honestly; have you even bothered, in this last month and more,  to read ( and I mean READ with comprehension, not "look at") the MULTIPLE papers I pointed to, Daniel?

If not, how can you even pretend to be honestly investigating anything at all? Is it your contention that someone here has to spoon feed you like you were a small brainless child?

Denial reminds me of Behe in Dover.

Pathetic...

Date: 2009/03/19 06:25:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Does anyone here play MMORPGs? I've heard interesting things about WoW, but never played a game. I did have an old version of just plain Warcraft for my old Mac about...umm....some years ago (10 I think) and it was fun ish.  


In the same register (although a bit under technicaly), but FREE, there is Rappelz.

I've played it for about 2 months last year, and it was aaaarrrggghh ("higlhy enjoyable", or "quick, more boiling oil", or "Your wife is a big hyppo").

I've had to put a stop to it for fear of my social life. But it's still really nice and entertaining, and one thing I liked with it is that there was a server with no PvP whatsoever, which greatly reduces one's need to buy a shotgun and get into IP-localisation lessons...

Date: 2009/03/19 08:16:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
My new album.

Just received the promos, so I have to check that everything went well at the pressing-plant...


My Myspace

Date: 2009/03/19 08:25:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 19 2009,15:21)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 19 2009,14:25)
   
Quote
Does anyone here play MMORPGs? I've heard interesting things about WoW, but never played a game. I did have an old version of just plain Warcraft for my old Mac about...umm....some years ago (10 I think) and it was fun ish.  


In the same register (although a bit under technicaly), but FREE, there is Rappelz.

I've played it for about 2 months last year, and it was aaaarrrggghh ("higlhy enjoyable", or "quick, more boiling oil", or "Your wife is a big hyppo").

I've had to put a stop to it for fear of my social life. But it's still really nice and entertaining, and one thing I liked with it is that there was a server with no PvP whatsoever, which greatly reduces one's need to buy a shotgun and get into IP-localisation lessons...



So a divorce is immenint?

First, your pic doesn't show.

Second, I've heard somewhere that I need a wife in order to divorce. Should someone provide one to me, I'll make sure your prediction happens*.


*Really fast.

Edit: and now it does show. blast, I feel stoopid!

Date: 2009/03/19 10:47:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 19 2009,15:16)
My new album.

Just received the promos, so I have to check that everything went well at the pressing-plant...


My Myspace

I am now quite offended!

No cries of "HAR HAR HAR, YOU HOMO!" from k.e, Ras, Arden or even Louis!

For Darwin's sake! The band's name is FAIRYLAND!!!

This board is really going down a bad way...

Date: 2009/03/19 11:07:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 19 2009,17:55)
Lemme first say, I don't really like metal. I found 'groove metal' tolerable, but I'm in the house / disco camp, musically.

Now - the musicianship is simply amazing on your records. Good melodic and harmonic sense without disappearing up your own arse. Very accessible for a genre I don't like.

"symphonic Heavy Metal" - would 'Europe' in in that vein?


also - see here:
http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....p=44443

Europe would be more in the FM/Hard Rock genre.

For my inspirations, go toi Mike Oldfield.

Thanks for the comment.  :)

ps: and sorry I forgot to add you in the "HAr HAR HAR, YOU HOMO!" bunch. Won't happen again!

Date: 2009/03/19 11:21:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 19 2009,18:13)
sorry i have been listening to the Killer all morning.  I'll give it an ear bend and derive some satisfactory insults.

Bless your heart...






:D  :D  :D

Date: 2009/03/21 08:52:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The guy is a self centered douche without the tiniest drop of scientific interest.

The only thing he cares about is what he "feels" is true, no matter how many evidence anyone will provide.

Let the bastard go evangelize somewhere else, or come back with REAL interest for the science behind his assumptions. Of course, it will be hard to achieve, because as soon as he gets into it at a level higher than kindergarden biology, his brain will start to melt due to fathomless paradoxes between reality and his bronze age beliefs.

And the next time he actualy tries to evangelize, I shall get very angry and blaspheme a lot!

Be warned!  :)

Date: 2009/03/21 09:33:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, snip my pickle and call me Shlomo!

You really think the TARD is going to answer anything that can expose him?

Let the douche go away. He won't be missed!

(hell, even FTK was funnier)

Date: 2009/03/31 03:11:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire!

Date: 2009/04/01 06:16:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh man! That must be the worst April's fool ever!

Who would seriously believe that stuff?

Date: 2009/04/02 07:52:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Let's push Denial's allegations a bit, shall we?

In particular, the one concerning the bacterial flagellum. Denial implies that it is so close to human design that it has to be created. The first electric motor (assumed to be the human design denial is refering to) was tested as a physical principle in 1821 by Faraday. Before that, nothing designed would actually ressemble the bacterial flagellum. And here I am over-simplyfying, assuming that the flagellum's means of motion are related to this kind of design. But after all, that's what ID thinks, because if they didn't then everything would be designed, down to rain drops (see how perfect is the round bottom and pointy top?). And that could cause some problems.

The thing is, the human brain is predisposed to find patterns where sometimes there is none. It is a very useful evolutionary trait, But in some cases such as Denials, it is just a handicap.  

It is NOT the cell that looks like a factory, it IS, in the eye of the beholder, the factory that looks like a cell. Any other view will lead to a precognitive nature that just KNEW what an electric motor or a factory would look like.*

This is so over-simplified and dull I feel shame and should have wrote it yesterday to at least have the "april fool" excuse.

Please bash as feels suited...


ps: and yes; I am almost drunk at 3 pm, but I've had a bad week!

Date: 2009/04/06 14:01:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (ppb @ April 06 2009,20:28)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 06 2009,08:34)
 
Quote (khan @ April 05 2009,18:09)
Sirens and cable alerts: tornado watches/warnings for next 5 hours.

Coming back from Nashville last Thursday, I was in the airport when they gave a tornado warning announcement asking everyone in the terminal to take cover, to get away from all windows, and stay by interior walls or in the restrooms until further notice.

The tornado took out the back wall of a tire store, but didn't come to the airport.

Now if only that tornado would have assembled a 747 for you.

These tornadoes are nothing like the tornadoes we used to get back in the day! When staying in Florida, I've experienced hurricanes that would put your tornadoes to shame! There were high winds, rain, lightning AND tornadoes!

And it was snowing all the time, and we were barefoot, and the road to work was uphill BOTH WAYS!!!11one!!

Anyway, I hope there weren't too much damages...

Date: 2009/04/07 08:10:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy Paul Nelson day to all!

may your day be full of religious crap and nonsense! I for one dig that a lot!

Tard, like Hope...

Date: 2009/04/08 11:55:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'm all for #20!

Date: 2009/04/09 05:43:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ April 09 2009,11:36)
You're incredibly tedious and I have no idea why so many here are willing to engage you at length when you're clearly acting in bad faith and have no intention of learning anything that would cause the slightest irritation to your delicate and worthless presuppositions.

Because it's fun.

Well, kinda...

Can get bloody hiritating at times...

But still fun.

Date: 2009/04/10 12:14:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
In the words of Bob Kelso and Chris Turk:

-"I'm not old, dammit! In fact i'm right now going to chat on my new computer!"

-"Oooh! What kind is it?"

-"About 3 o'clock"

Happy birthday!

Date: 2009/04/10 15:10:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey, I just found out Mornington Crescent station was in Camden (we french and our knowledge of english geography...)

Anyway, i played there in 2007 at the Dingwall. I really enjoyed this part of Camden, although it looks a bit like Disneyworld (except the extras are dressed a bit weirder than your average Mickey Mouse).

And I agree with Louis about missing out on those fine lectures. I wish Dr Miller or Dr Dawkins would come to France someday...

Date: 2009/04/11 05:14:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (k.e.. @ April 11 2009,12:01)
Quote
Who designed the intelligent designer?


According to The Devil's Dictionary


Brahma

   
Quote
BRAHMA, n.
He who created the Hindoos, who are preserved by Vishnu and destroyed by Siva -- a rather neater division of labor than is found among the deities of some other nations. The Abracadabranese, for example, are created by Sin, maintained by Theft and destroyed by Folly. The priests of Brahma, like those of Abracadabranese, are holy and learned men who are never naughty.

   O Brahma, thou rare old Divinity,
   First Person of the Hindoo Trinity,
   You sit there so calm and securely,
   With feet folded up so demurely --
   You're the First Person Singular, surely.
                                                       Polydore Smith



Wow! That Smith quote is almost up to the McGonagall level!

So...who designed Brahma?

Date: 2009/04/11 08:16:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
That is an interesting philosophic point.

but will it stirr any thoughts in Denial's mind?

I bet not!

Date: 2009/04/14 12:09:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 14 2009,18:12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTzvaXWiZDE

That was trully shocking!

Rest in peace, Asia McGowan.  :(

Date: 2009/04/14 12:22:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
He could have done even more:

Conservative
Reactionary
Anti-fact
Political

identity movement

I'm just saying...

Date: 2009/04/15 03:56:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
He's done it!!!

NASA to name ISS treadmill after Colbert

Date: 2009/04/15 06:10:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Little surprise, then, that “Yellow & Pink” turns up on various intelligent-design reading lists


HAHAHA!!! Of course it does, that's about the level of litterature these guys can grasp!

Date: 2009/04/16 12:11:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry, testing my new sig.

If you're not happy, just cast me to the bathroo.....oh, wait...

Date: 2009/04/16 12:14:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, it works.

Thanks to everyone for your participation, we love you!

(no we don't, we am french, and we hate everybody, me says!)

Date: 2009/04/16 23:59:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ April 16 2009,20:04)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 16 2009,18:14)
Ok, it works.

Thanks to everyone for your participation, we love you!

(no we don't, we am french, and we hate everybody, me says!)

SD,

I have no idea why that is your new sig, but I have to say a) I laughed and b) I approve!

Louis

Well, I was just watching HBO/BBC's Rome for the 11th time, and the quote kinda stuck... :)

Date: 2009/04/17 01:06:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Susan Boyle stunned me. Amazing!

Incidently, my new album comes out in Japan on Wednesday 21st, in Europe on April 29th and 30th, and in the US on May 19th.

Some guy already put the whole promo album on youtube, if anyone wants to take a listen...

Just search "score to a new beginning". There's even a playlist...

Date: 2009/04/19 12:16:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I can't, I'm not a US citizen, but I strongly approve and support.

Date: 2009/04/19 14:28:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh my! I feel like a little cheerleader at her first game. All wet and exited, yet nothing comes out.

Enough already. Daniel is pissed off by the fact that all his stories go down in flames. Present him with the widest amount of evidence, wraped in a nice package with ribbons, and yet he'll come back and bitch about the wrapper color.

Denial is my grand-uncle after two scotch at christmas!

Date: 2009/04/19 15:24:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ April 19 2009,21:53)
It's the simplest of shell games:
1) Pretend reasonableness and ask for "even a preliminary pathway" for evolutionary novelty and pretend you'd accept it, if scientists agreed on it.

2) Once the pathway is given, drop the pretense and shift the goalposts by asking "where did that come from?" endlessly, in an infinite regress -- Eventually, an honest respondent *must* answer "we don't know at this time."

3)$$Profit!!$$

-- Do this while disregarding/ignoring the basic fact that nothing in science is ever claimed to BE a "final answer" -- EVER.

-- Oscillate back and forth from pretending that it is (a) up to scientists to determine the validity of a scientific claim, to (b) Posing your own opinion as the ultimate arbiter.

-- Pretend that asking for the origins of things in an infinite regress isn't moving the goalposts towards a God of the Gaps defense.

Did I miss any any other major aspect of your fraudulent approach, Denial?

Just as an exercise, Denial; can you name anything in science that is demonstrably claimed to be a "final answer?" If not...think about how this might affect your fake-ass approach. DON'T FAIL TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THIS REQUEST FOR AN EXAMPLE, DENIAL (Onlookers may wish to judge Denial's honesty thereby)

For emphazise!

Date: 2009/04/20 15:26:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Richard Dawkins' talk at the American Atheists 09 convention.

Professor Dawkins

Date: 2009/04/20 17:28:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry to bump this thread and post the same thing I posted on the BW, but I just got to the fact that the video is very relevant regarding Expelled...

Richard Dawkins' talk at the American Atheists 09 convention.

Professor Dawkins

(And yes, I do post Dawkins' videos rather instinctively, within minutes of having started watching them, because, let's face it, the guy is brilliant!)

Edit: changed "fascinating" to "brilliant" as not to confuse the unsuspecting lurker. I DO NOT have a Dawkins altar in my bedroom...










It's in the living room... :p

Date: 2009/04/20 17:42:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
What rituals do you perform? :)


You don't want to know!*

*although constantly beating the crap out of  a stein I brought back from Oktober Fest is part of the ritual... :D

Date: 2009/04/21 04:58:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
WOW!!! O_O

I'll be back in a few days, got some catching up to do  :D

Date: 2009/04/21 06:18:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
So far I've just stoped on the Moon landing of july 69. Fascinating!

Date: 2009/04/21 14:33:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ April 21 2009,19:24)
I found this particularly ironic and amusing -- from months ago, at the beginning of this thread:
   
Quote (Daniel Smith @ Feb. 13 2009,19:31)
  If you're going to quibble about minutia, forget it.  You know what I mean, you're just being petty.

Ever-increasing detail = "petty!"
   
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 14 2009,16:16)

Do you understand that asking for an atom-by-atom account for the change in the molecular pathways... is simply moving the goalposts?

Do you understand Zeno's Paradox, the misunderstanding of which  allows you to claim any event as a saltational event [i.e. "goddidit" ] no matter what sort of historical or biological processes were in play?  
I'm with Loose.  there is no point in attempting to hold your hand through this because you often give the impression of a petulant child, laying down in the floor and saying "No!"...   You have been misled.  When you claim conspiracies and godless blinders, everyone is going to tell you to Fuck Off.


Don't forget to answer my previous post [above], Denial!

Denial: Fuck Off!


Aaaaahhh. Much better...

Date: 2009/04/21 16:06:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Abbie Purthday!

Date: 2009/04/21 18:39:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Daniel Smith @ April 22 2009,01:34)
Quote (JAM @ April 21 2009,00:18)
     
Quote (Daniel Smith @ April 20 2009,17:31)
To be able to look at all of this and say "no God required" -

You know, Dan, honest people don't put things they imagine other people saying in quotes.

What are you saying here JAM?  Are you saying that maybe you think that God is required?

Seriously, get lost. You are pathetic!

Date: 2009/04/21 18:54:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Daniel Smith @ April 22 2009,01:48)
Quote (deadman_932 @ April 21 2009,09:51)
DANIEL SAYS
So...I asked you to point to anything in science that has the degree of detail you are requiring, Daniel. The kind of detail that allows scientists to say " This is settled, we know every jot and tittle about this subject so that we can say we have the FINAL ANSWER."

You didn't name a field of scientific investigation or ...well, anything in science in which we can make such a claim, Daniel. Now, put on your pointy little thinking cap and try to answer what you were asked.

There are lots of things actually that fit the bill, you just need to look outside of biology.  Many mathematical questions have been answered.  Chemistry and Physics also have lots of settled questions.  I'm sure you can think of some of these if you try.

Got something for Pi? A complete answer?

So, what is the EXACT value of Pi?

ps: if your omniscient god created a universe where Pi is not an entire number, he fucked up big time!

Date: 2009/04/24 08:59:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ April 24 2009,15:53)
A word of advice for those who engage with Daniel:

How to retrain a SAM

Thanks Lou, the definition is spot-on!

Date: 2009/04/26 22:43:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Rational person: -"I don't get this. What's wrong with me?"

Denial: -"I don't get this. What's wrong with it?"

I'm getting bored of this guy...

Date: 2009/04/28 19:42:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Daniel Smith @ April 29 2009,00:52)
Quote (deadman_932 @ April 27 2009,17:23)
Yo, you're not doing science when you're saying that terms in science have to meet your idiosyncratic definitions, Denial.

What you're doing has a name --  It's called apologetics.

What's the scientific definition of "specific" as it relates to enzymes then?

Make the gene pool a favor and go play on the highway...

Date: 2009/04/29 04:38:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ April 29 2009,10:54)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 29 2009,01:42)
 
Quote (Daniel Smith @ April 29 2009,00:52)
 
Quote (deadman_932 @ April 27 2009,17:23)
Yo, you're not doing science when you're saying that terms in science have to meet your idiosyncratic definitions, Denial.

What you're doing has a name --  It's called apologetics.

What's the scientific definition of "specific" as it relates to enzymes then?

Make the gene pool a favor and go play on the highway...

Oh now that's more than a little harsh. Comedy hyperbolic requests for Denial to make himself dead or maimed are not really needed. Can't we just settle for mild abuse and frequent demands for basic intellectual honesty and rigour?

Denial is hardly significant enough to want dead, all that could really be asked of him is to become honest and rational. And of course to demonstrate that the contention that it is impossible for him to prove he is not a child molester is false..... ;-)

Louis

Ok, my bad.

Lets have him get his epiphany on the highway, then...

There, nicer?  :D

Date: 2009/05/01 04:13:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I agree with Alan, on the France stuff.

Weird enough, I actually like Marmite! And backed beans for breakfast...

With a cold beer...

Date: 2009/05/01 17:33:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy 0010 1010nd birthday LOU!

Date: 2009/05/01 17:38:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Regarding openings in the scientific field, there's been a massive brains leakage to better horizons these past few years, due to drastic cuts in the science budget. There was a glimpse of sunshine during Claudie Haigneré's office as minister of Sciences, but it's all gone down the drain even since.

Shame, they had the one person who understood what was at stakes in science...

Anyway, avoid at all cost until further government changes.

Date: 2009/05/03 10:43:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ May 03 2009,11:21)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ May 03 2009,00:42)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 02 2009,09:51)
     
Quote (Daniel Smith @ May 02 2009,12:04)
     
Quote (Alan Fox @ April 30 2009,14:25)
         
Quote
...I wind my merry way...
That's wend, I think.</nitpick>

Hi Dan.

I'd ask what's the point, but...

What's the point?

Hi Alan.

The point is - Life requires God.

By the same logic, it requires the tooth fairy.

To my knowledge, the "tooth fairy" has never been defined as an omniscient being.

Since life requires that - by the same logic, the tooth fairy is ruled out.

Wow! I just ticked on that one.

How did you get to that conclusion, that "life requires an omniscient being"?

Got any interesting, peer reviewed paper on that point?

And to follow the trend: 8 people on a boat for 40 days? That's either very kinky or just plain bad luck for the goats...

Date: 2009/05/03 11:19:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ May 03 2009,18:10)
IIRC, 40 days it took to flood the Earth, but many more days had to be spent sailing the waves.

Poor, poor goats...

Date: 2009/05/03 12:04:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ May 03 2009,18:45)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 02 2009,19:17)
Quote (Daniel Smith @ May 02 2009,18:42)
To my knowledge, the "tooth fairy" has never been defined as an omniscient being.

Since life requires that - by the same logic, the tooth fairy is ruled out.

I hereby define the "tooth fairy" as an omniscient omnipotent being who, while it can control all space-time, chooses to deal only with teeth and the origin of life.

Therefore life requires the "tooth fairy" and the "tooth fairy" explains the origin of life and is necessary for the origin of life. After all, without life there are no teeth!

Will that do? Or do you demand that I dress up in some odd clothes first like your priests do before my declarations are "true" and are accepted by you as the directly (honestly, I'm not pretending or deluded) communicated word of whatever magic man in the sky you believe in?


odds are this poor sod will ignore this.  beautiful.

life requires god because he defined it that way.

I've been trying to get Denial to either man up and bring the tard or to fuck off, for about 20 pages.

Banal fuck off.  Or talk about the flud.  or quit bullshitting about science which you are ignorant of and  indifferent or apathetic about.  tell us about your last vacation but please not another word about your beliefs and how you wish they were true but not so much that you actually empirically evaluate said beliefs.

i predict fuckface will ignore this and start continue rambling incoherently about proof and detail and his definitions.

Oh, sorry Ras, you covered that already. I was just so attracted to the pic to read the content.

Ooooohhh! SHINY!

Date: 2009/05/04 09:12:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Massive OT ahead!

Some "fan" from Vietnam sent me a mail today saying my music was good but its "spiritual" side somehow laking.

He gave me a link to this:

Weirdo

The intro itself says it all.

Any thoughts?

Edit: yep, I just found out it's a sect...

Date: 2009/05/04 10:53:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ May 04 2009,16:52)
Quote
So just what exactly is BUDDHA LAW, then? Is it religion? Is it philosophy? That is just how the “cutting-edge” scholars of Buddhism see it


I take that to mean they see it as an unanswered question?

lol  get you some of that, dog

I'd love to, but I actually can't be too direct. I kindly sent back a mail to the guy about religious/political/sectarian/ideological/phylosophical/spiritual propaganda and what I think of it, but I fear the dear friend won't reply...

Date: 2009/05/04 16:25:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (k.e.. @ May 04 2009,21:11)
Quote
LOL

Yeah yeah, we all know. You can't answer the questions we ask, don't like the fact that we (and many others) see straight through you, don't like the fact that we refuse to sit quietly and nod at your dishonesty...

Oh wait, you mean those aren't the reasons? You seem to be differing with reality....again. Big shocker.



One word: Psychosis.

Dan suffers from it....there's probably a brain chemistry explanation.

My brain and I have great chemistry!

We go places together

And yet sometimes I let it wander

Now to be fair on the Denial matter

It's quite obvious that he's a wanker...


There, a little poem for ya!  :)

Date: 2009/05/05 06:51:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ May 05 2009,12:02)
One alternative is reading the same good books again, and again, but it is not possible to keep that going forever.

It is, actually. I've been hooked to Terry Pratchett for 10 years, and that's the only thing I'm reading now (in the novels category, of course, I'm not THAT closed).

I think the one I've read most is Jingo (about 12 times). I have almost the full discworld series (lacking only 4 books that I will order soon), and it's entertained me for 10 years now. I can feel another decade will pass by, and I still won't be bored with Pratchett's genius!

Date: 2009/05/08 01:59:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 08 2009,04:20)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,May 07 2009,21:19)
and arden?

Violated his parole.

Although he said she was consenting...

Date: 2009/05/08 06:30:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ May 08 2009,11:34)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 08 2009,07:59)
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 08 2009,04:20)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,May 07 2009,21:19)
and arden?

Violated his parole.

Although he said she was consenting...

Can a corpse ever be really said to have given it's consent?

Louis

At least, it never says "no"...




Too much?

Date: 2009/05/10 03:31:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, at least this whole topic can be treasured as one of those so (un)rare occasions in which a (alleged) creotard makes a fool of himself.

Any slightly inquisitive mind would be thankful to all those who have contributed and tried to explain in a clear way, yet Denial flounces out with a cry of "ATHEISTS!"

The loss is on him really. Such a shame...



ps: how strong can his faith be that he is so scared of opening his eyes? Pretty weak, I gather.

Date: 2009/05/14 17:13:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
So, on the one hand we have Nasa and the Hubble telescope extreme make-over, promising images as far as 500 years after the Big Bang. Sorry, link in french.

On the other hand, we have the ESA and Planck & Herschel program, promising images down to 380 000 years after the Big Bang. Sorry, link in french......again

While I rejoice upon Hubble's newfound life span, I kinda wonder about the real limits of our "vision". Can we really go back farther than the 380 000 limit? It seems (although I might be mistaken) that this particular time would be the moment when light "separated" from the gooey mumbo-jumbo and thus is the limit to what we can "see".

But Nasa claims to scope down to 500 years Post Big Bang.

Utopia? Mistake from the reporter? Blatant propaganda?

Share your thoughts...

Date: 2009/05/14 17:36:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (cogzoid @ May 15 2009,00:30)
A better way to think of it is this.  Things were so energetic, noisy, close together, etc. that light could not travel very far.  Physicists consider the universe pre~380,000 years old to be opaque.  The reporter discussing how far back the Hubble could look must have heard wrong.

Ok, thanks, that's what I was hoping for.

Carlson: yeah, kinda...:D

Date: 2009/05/15 04:10:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (EyeNoU @ May 15 2009,08:15)
Quote (Henry J @ May 14 2009,22:26)
Which one, Miami, or New York?

Henry

Las Vegas.

Agreed, that's the only true CSI. The other ones are crap coated crap with crap topping and a side order of crap.

Grissom FTW!

Date: 2009/05/15 12:12:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 15 2009,17:43)
Quote (gene @ May 15 2009,07:32)
I have some questions regarding evolution:

How does evolution explain the development of the reproduction process?  In other words, how is it that life evolved into male and female genders?   It seems that the evolutionary process would have to have occurred twice simultaneously in order to produce  male and  female counterparts for procreation to go forth.   How is this process explained?

Thanks for your help,
Gene

I'd start with John Maynard Smith's "Evolution of Sex". It's 30 years old, but I recall from reading it as a post-doc that it covers the ground fairly well. There may be a newer version of this book as well, but the old classic should still get you started.

Additionally, I'd caution you against making anthropogenic assumptions. Even bacteria and fungi have sex, but not "genders". The real hurdle to understanding the evolution of sex in eukaryotes, as I recall, was trying to understand the evolution of meiosis, which is required in order to produce haploid gametes. There is almost certainly more known about that now than was known in the late 1970's!

Happy reading!

Ok guys, don't break the line. I feel like we've got a good catch. Let's prepare the net and open a new topic, just in case...

Without Denial or FTK, we need to prep our godbaits...

"Let's put some shrimps on the barbie!" - Yoda, probably

Date: 2009/05/19 07:14:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
They should try and also link the Columbine massacre to this:

Quote
The first sources of light for all of Arda were two enormous Lamps: Illuin, the silver one to the north and Ormal, the golden one to the south. These were cast down and destroyed by Melkor. Afterward, the Valar went to Valinor and Yavanna sang into existence the Two Trees, silver Telperion and golden Laurelin. Telperion was referred to as male and Laurelin female. The Trees sat on the hill Ezellohar located outside Valimar. They grew in the presence of all of the Valar, watered by the tears of Nienna.

Each tree was a source of light: Telperion's silver and Laurelin's gold. Telperion had dark leaves (silver on one side) and his silvery dew was collected as a source of water and of light. Laurelin had pale green leaves trimmed with gold, and her dew was likewise collected by Varda.

One "day" lasted twelve hours. Each Tree, in turn, would give off light for seven hours (waxing to full brightness and then slowly waning again), so that at one hour each of "dawn" and "dusk" soft gold and silver light would be given off together.

Jealous Melkor also known as Morgoth enlisted the help of the giant spider-creature Ungoliant (the first great spider and ancestor of Shelob) to destroy the Two Trees. Concealed in a cloud of darkness, Melkor struck each Tree and the insatiable Ungoliant devoured whatever life and light remained in them {their sap poured like blood}.

Again Yavanna sang and Nienna wept, but they succeeded only in reviving Telperion's last flower (to become the Moon) and Laurelin's last fruit (to become the Sun). These were assigned to lesser spirits, male Tilion and female Arien, after the 'genders' of the Trees themselves. This is why, in The Lord of the Rings, the Sun is usually referred to as "she" and the moon as "he".

However the true light of the Trees, before their poisoning by Ungoliant, was said to now reside only in the three Silmarils, created by Fëanor the most gifted of the Elves.


I'm mean, it makes at least as much sense as their bronze-age mythology...

Date: 2009/05/20 07:05:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Alan Fox @ May 20 2009,12:01)
Thought this might interest Quack to see if much has changed in Paris since 1957. Don't know if you ever strolled along rue Montorgueil?

Taking a rest from commenting, but will be lurking just to keep up with progress in ID science! So farewell and best wishes to everyone!

Bye Alan! à très bientôt et bon repos ;)

Date: 2009/05/20 08:59:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, forgot to mention:

"progress in ID science"?????*

Bwahahaha!!! Good luck on THAT one!





*Five question marks is definitely too much, isn't it?????

Date: 2009/05/20 11:54:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
No, no, no! Question marks don't get decorated  with lousy "1's". It gets the full monty and abuse of the common coma!

like???,,,,,??,,????,coma,,coma???

Got it???coma??coma??,,

Right!

Date: 2009/05/21 09:07:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ May 21 2009,15:47)
Quote (Amadan @ May 21 2009,05:19)
Not really relevant to anything currently on AtBC, but this has been on my mind so much for the last day or 2.

Best summed up by the editorial in today's Irish Times.


Deeply disturbing.

It's easy to torture children, when God is on your side.

Perhaps there could be a "Kick Your Local Priest and Nun Day" to "increase awareness" of the problem.  I realize that some people might actually enjoy kicking their local priest and nun on the given day; but I say it's only to increase awareness and that's my story and I am sticking to it.  And don't forget Jesus will forgivith those that kicketh the local priest and nun for the fun of it.

Why a day? Priest and nun butt-kicking is a all-year-long activity. Let's not spoil it with "rules"... :)

Date: 2009/05/21 14:48:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ May 21 2009,20:31)
Just thought this fit with the overall theme of tard:


Oh Kay!

This is bloody hilarious!

Date: 2009/05/23 08:33:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (sledgehammer @ May 09 2009,17:10)
So let me get this straight:
At Grove City College, participation in gay porn is cause for expulsion, but participation in intellectual porn, a.k.a. "Expelled", gets you tenure.

Damn, I'm late on that one!

"Let me get this straight..."

NOT A CHANCE HOMO!!! IT'S GAY PORN!!!!!!!111one11!






Sorry, had to be done...

Date: 2009/05/23 08:37:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,15:18)
Liberty University, where pseudo-intellectual Ben Stein gave the commencement address this year, has banned the campus Democratic club from using university facilities, the university name, etc. Apparently the Democratic club was only recognized last fall, so this experiment with free speech was quite short-lived. The campus Republican club remains untouched. The email to the club's president, announcing this decision by the university administration, contained this gem.  
Quote
The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

I'd be a student there, I'd.....I.....well, I wouldn't be a student there, for a start!

Date: 2009/05/23 09:55:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey, i might start to think that I'm the ultimate topic killer. I kinda like that...

Date: 2009/05/24 04:31:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yummi! That's tardalicious!

Date: 2009/05/24 17:19:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Today, May 25th, is the official Towel Day.

Although I'm sure Douglas' memory is still alive in his fans' hearts, it is not too much to be reminded of his genius.

Douglas Adams left us on May 11th 2001, and a spontaneous initiative declared May 25th "Towel Day", in hommage to Adams' work (for those not familiar with the concept, search page 3 of H2G2).

Don't forget your towel, and...


DON'T PANIC!

Date: 2009/05/25 09:22:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
MY sister is a lesbian. Well, actually a bisexual with inclinations for the female gender...





I win?

Date: 2009/05/26 13:16:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Congrats, dnmlthr!

As for gutters, you might want to work on a correlation between your situation, Louis' usual state of being, Denial Smith's argument from irresponsability, and finaly my awful spelling...

Date: 2009/05/27 11:08:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Shhhhh, Ras, don't say it too loud, they still think they're faith-camouflage experts...

I wonder what it would be to have a rerun of Kitzmiller Vs Dover with these website as additional evidence. Maybe later attempts from IDC wouldn't have even existed...

And neither would have Expelled?

Date: 2009/05/28 09:30:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Zachriel @ May 28 2009,16:17)
Dug out several tons of tard. Then sluiced it. Then sorted it by hand. Finally, refined it to a single kernel.

Quote
kairosfocus: the fact of a definite probability distribution implies that there are underlying — unobserved, and at Q-mech level perhaps unobservable — factors that set it and its parameters up.

There are apparently no such factors, no local hidden variables to explain why this particle rather than that identical particle decays first.

Simple, yet elegant.

What will the Next Frontier be? (appart form a rather average Star Treck Spin-off movie)?

Date: 2009/05/30 09:50:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey J-Dog!

The fact is, the bible, old testament, Torah, Bozzo's Funny Party manual are all testimonies of how wicked the "good god" is.

And for IDtards, maintaining that the designer is the god of the bible is quite frankly* overkill.

This was just a short way to relaunch the board, which has been dead for many hours now...

*For fans of Colin Lano and Frank woodley:
Quote
(Col is asking Frank to cut some wood and is holding a pile in his arms.)
Col- “I don’t think you’re pulling you’re weight frankly!”
Frank- “My name’s not frankly!”
Col- “What?”
Frank- “You dropped the wood!”
Col- “Where?”
Frank- “NO you called me frankly, my name’s Frank Woodley, frankly it makes me uncomfortable.”
Col- “What makes you uncomfortable?”
Frank- “Frankly!”
Col- “Yes I wish you were just honest with me what’s upsetting you?”
Frank- “I don’t like it when you drop the wood!”
Col- “I didn’t drop the wood! Frankly I don’t know what you’re talking about!”
Frank- “Don’t call me frankly!”
Col- “Cut the wood!”
Frank- “ I’m not cutting the Wood it’s part of my name!”
Col- “Grab an axe and cut up pieces of timbre for me!”
Frank- “Oh why didn’t you just say so!”

Date: 2009/05/30 11:19:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I am a 100% layman right here, but when you said "Integron",the word "Phlogiston" just poped out.

Maybe integrons are a scientific reality, I'll have to check this out, but the name doesn't roll off the tongue, does it?

Date: 2009/05/30 11:29:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, fair enough.

But the name still sucks! Sounds like a bad Decepticon meme from Transformers...

:D  :D  :D

Date: 2009/05/30 12:12:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (keiths @ May 30 2009,18:52)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 30 2009,07:50)
This was just a short way to relaunch the board, which has been dead for many hours now...

Poor SD is showing the signs of tard withdrawal.

Remember, SD, you can always go back and read the original Uncommonly Dense thread.  Old tard is better than no tard, and the historical tard is often quaint.

Yes, I know, but I still need my fix, and a good fix needs friends to enjoy it with.

bear with me, or hate bears, ,whatever.

this board is usualy active!

Date: 2009/05/30 15:32:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Bob O'H @ May 30 2009,21:33)
I think courts should stay out of the school curriculum... Leave it to legislative bodies.[/quote] Snip

Wow!

Date: 2009/05/31 14:09:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quack's first tivo appearance (at the end of the clip).

I'll buy the second Guiness, Quack!

Date: 2009/05/31 14:19:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FreeSpeachFan @ May 31 2009,21:08)
I am a Swedish ID supporter, so I hope you won't ban me as you banned Dave Scot, Air Force Dave, and Four the Kids. I came unto this forum while reading about evolutionism vs. ID on the web, and was appaled at what I saw here.

This site might be the worst train wreck I have ever seen on the net, and believe me when I say I have seen many a uninformed site. It is a cesspool of insults and profan language, a repgnutant swamp of ad hominems passed of as scientific discoarse. I do not expect a rational dialogue thusly[/I], although I concede to change my view should you prove to be able to converse in a civil tone free from the abuse that is so typical of Darwinist forums on the internet. Nevertheless, let it be repeated that my expetactions are low.

Now that I have thusly introduced myself, I must ask why I cannot start topics of my own? As a part of an attempt at supressing open dialogue, perhaps? But I shall showe some goodwill and reconsider this opinion if you can give a cridible reason why I should not be allowed to set up my own tread.

--Crister Wimblén

First! Do I get the concession rights as of gold mining legislation?

Date: 2009/05/31 14:59:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Aardvark, you just killed me!

That was bloody brilliant! Kudos.

Date: 2009/05/31 15:08:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I believe the ability to create new threads is not given to new users in order to cut down on spam posts for porn


A state of affair I have always found a bit harsh, if I might say so!

Porn should never be counted as spam, as long as it's free!

Date: 2009/05/31 15:13:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'm not so sure that last stuff is genuine. Aborted too early in the process. let's poke him some more, just to be certain...

Date: 2009/05/31 15:14:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
AND Vikings!

Date: 2009/05/31 15:21:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FreeSpeachFan @ May 31 2009,22:15)
If you want, I can act all troll-ey just for your amusement.

Naaah, wouldn't be fun. We really prefer the bible-bashing, mouth-frothing, zombie-eating, child-abusing genuine nutjobs.

But, and here I'm realising I'm late, welcome to this forum!

Date: 2009/06/01 04:41:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks for my new sig, Louis!

Date: 2009/06/01 16:14:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (dnmlthr @ June 01 2009,23:04)
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 01 2009,18:26)
Quote (afarensis @ May 31 2009,18:28)
 
Quote (Louis @ May 31 2009,15:29)
Right, is it just me that doesn't speak Swedish?

Louis

I don't speak Swedish either. I think you have to know the difference between Alpine and Nordic skiing before they allow you to learn Swedish. I could be wrong though...

As long as you know what "Systembolaget" means, you'll be OK.

All of us are named either "Inga" or "Sven", might complicate things a bit.

Inga was my nanny's name when I was a toddler. But she was from Norway.

Funny tidbit, a few years ago she sent me a mail after finding out about my band on the interweb and was like "are you the little Philippe I used to care for when you were a baby?"

Very touching moment*







*That's what SHE said!!! (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Date: 2009/06/02 16:48:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
2. Jesus’ Y-chromosome. If we accept (as Christians do) that God wished to redeem the human race from the effects of the Fall by sending His only-begotten Son, then clearly the birth of His Son would have to be an event whose timing and occurrence depended purely on God’s will, and in no way on man’s. Hence the birth of God’s Son could not be the result of human sexual intercourse. It had to be an act of Divine intervention. Hence the necessity of a Virginal Conception.

But we now know that males have a Y-chromosome, while females (generally) do not. So where did Jesus Christ get His? The data from Scripture and tradition indicates clearly that Jesus took flesh from the Virgin Mary, so we might suppose that God somehow interposed to convert one of the Virgin Mary’s X’s into a Y, after the chromosomes divided.

Secular humanist critics have pointed out that additional tinkering by God would have been required, to make sure that Our Lord did not get a double copy of any defective genes His mother may have possessed, and to initiate genomic imprinting, which requires genetic input from both parents in the ordinary course of events.


WOW! Reading this, any good Christian should feel like I felt when stupid Qui Gon Jin explained Midiclorians as the source of the Force in Star Wars episode I. eg: like crap!

There should be some kind of mandatory exam to be allowed to do science...oh, wait...

Date: 2009/06/03 04:50:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Congratulations to the mom and yourself! Oh, hell, even the little snot-nose is due some congratulations!

Welcome to the world, kiddo.

Date: 2009/06/04 01:46:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Has cool-minded as FTK

Date: 2009/06/05 08:23:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OT: Today you can watch the French movie "Home" for free:

Home

The message is quite akin to "An incovenient truth", yet the images by themselves are beautiful and deserve some attention.

I Hope you'll enjoy.

Back to Louis' spawn now...

Date: 2009/06/10 03:55:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I've just experienced a violent T.A.R.D-meter explosion...

Date: 2009/06/12 09:46:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I have to say this puns stuff is just sublimed...

Date: 2009/06/12 11:51:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
k.e, have you watched "Romper Stomper meets Boys In the Hood" again?

Anyway, shall I start socking? Because if so, I need some time to put my strocks on!


oops...

Date: 2009/06/14 01:57:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Interesting link, J-Dog.

More interesting is the first sentence of comment 33 by George Olshevsky (main advocate of BCF cited in the article):

Quote
What falsifies the BADD theory, whose major scenario is the assembly of a flying bird from components that evolved entirely in a terrestrial, nonvolant context, is the sheer unlikelihood of this sequence of events. It is like shaking the box and having all the pieces fall randomly into a perfectly completed jigsaw puzzle.


Does that ring a bell to anyone? 747 and tornado?

So after reading a few things, I'm really starting to assume that BCF is a creationist theory undercover.

Again...

Date: 2009/06/14 07:50:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire à tous!

Date: 2009/06/14 08:40:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, if it's not creationism, it's at least teleology, which isn't very far.

The main arguments George Olshevsky puts up front for his theory are that a ground-based evolution is "unlikely" and that he "doesn't believe" it's possible on any time scale (I am grossly paraphrasing and simplifying).

There is no real positive, evidence-supported claims for his reasoning. At best he is trying to open the way to a new classification system, based on nothing solid whatsoever. At worst, he's a closet creationist.

One way or the other, the only thing he's achieving right now is feeding the AIG nonsense.

I don't call that science...

Date: 2009/06/14 09:47:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ June 14 2009,16:44)
And don't forget happy BD to our newest old member... Dr. Lynch.

Ah, ok, joyeux anniversaire too.

By the way, I'm not a big fan of his movies (except Twin Peaks and Elephant Man)...



Oh, wait...

Date: 2009/06/14 12:20:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I will take advantage of this thread to ask a question:

Has any serious study been made about the effects of sex on the developping* foetus? Not merely physical, but also physiological, vis hormonal exchanges between mother and foetus, and whatever effects sex (or absence thereof) during pregnancy could have on the developpment* of said foetus...

This is purely a scientific inquiry, and in no way a perverted move on my part...

I'm about 99.99% sure it has been studied already, and if someone can link me, I'd like to get into it...



*For Tiktaalik's sake, can someone also give me a definite rule about double consonants in the english language?

Date: 2009/06/14 13:21:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Maya @ June 14 2009,20:17)
Quote (GCUGreyArea @ June 14 2009,12:00)
Just caught this:        
Quote
. . .
2 - you write that Darwin did not propose a remedy to the problem under discussion, and then state that the remedy was eugenics, all in a section trying to tie Social Darwinism directly to Darwin himself. That is pretty self-throat-cuttingly incoherent.
. . .


Cut-Me-Own-Throat Mullings?

Is that a Dibbler reference? If so, I will have to agree!

Date: 2009/06/14 13:24:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
For those who want to celebrate with good Yo-Ho Rum, please listen to track n°4 (and n°5 is one of my songs, but it fits too for a Rum birthday. Lots of rum, alright...)

Alestorm + Fairyland

"keelhauled, that filthy lad, gonna send him down to the death bellow!

Make that bastard walk the plank with a bottle of Rhum and the Yo-Ho-Ho!"

Date: 2009/06/14 13:52:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Naah. Colon's too objective. Nobby is way too logical, but I think the deep-down dwarfs and especialy the Grags would fit...

(It has been mentioned that Pratchett used Orthodox Jews as the basis for his Grags)...

Date: 2009/06/15 10:30:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (GCUGreyArea @ June 15 2009,15:53)
I have developed a theory about KF - he does not exist, in actual fact Gordon Mullings has been playing around with a creationist version of an automatic research paper generator.

Simply input some cdesign proponentist keywords and watch as it generates line after line of garbage.  It is being developed to increase their chances of getting science papers published in 'peer reviewed' journals.  Automatic research paper generators seem to have a better publication record than ID at then moment.

That's pure genius!

Date: 2009/06/15 13:04:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, I definitely have to go and have a puke....

Date: 2009/06/16 04:41:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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The great advantage of building in DGSEs is that the numbers come out right and most those “mysteries” cease to be mysteries and have simple logical explanations.


Godidit?

DGSE stands for Direction Générale des Services Extérieurs. It's the old name of the French intelligence agency. I don't see what they have to do with evolution...

Date: 2009/06/18 05:07:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quoting J-Dog:

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but sometimes it's beter to save the best for last


So joyeux anniversaire John!

Date: 2009/06/22 08:07:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Never mind, Deadman's probably basking up the wrong tree. Nothing fishy there.

although if you need this taken care of, I know one or two Chicago lobsters that could make your life a whole easier...

Date: 2009/06/24 15:15:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Read it too, but then I decided to make a wiki search on Pearcey and after a few external link clicks, I found myself on PT, then in the comments on PT I followed a link that made me end-up on...

...the discussion about religious indoctrination and child abuse right here at AtBC.

The Circle is now Closed!

Date: 2009/06/24 17:33:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And I'm bumping it too, for exactly the same reasons, even though it's been a while since FTK was last seen.

It's just that I didn't know of this topic before the whole "Article linked from Disco institute" circle-of-life style tard exploration.

It is a fascinating subject, and maybe some newer input can be added...

My contribution right now will be in regard to physical punishment.

We are having quite some problems here in france with that subject. When I was a kid, my father would use a "martinet", which is a kind of cat-of-nine-tails without the hooks, on my brother and myself. It did hurt, but it also very efficiently kept us out of trouble. Another thing at this time was that our teachers were allowed some amount of physical punishment (nothing over the top, but usualy a bit hurting and/or humiliating).

Right now, in France, the situation is so that any single physical contact from a teacher to a pupil can lead to court, fines, even imprisonement. The direct result is a total lack of respect for the teaching body, especialy from youngsters (10-16). A few days ago, a teacher was slapped in the face by a 11 years old kid. The only recourse she had? Signal the kid to the cops, with all the troubles that will ensue.

Over-protecting our kids is, IMO, not always a good thing. When parents fail to do the basic homework of educating their kids and the teaching body is not allowed to correct the mistakes, we end up with a dangerous generation indeed.

So, in regard to the topic at hand, physical punishment is perceived as child abuse, so why shouldn't mental indoctrination be seen as such?

Of course, by physical punishement I do mean a good spanking when deserved. My father's martinet WAS over the top, but so is he...

Date: 2009/06/25 02:18:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry, that was drunk-posting. I now see that there's no point to my post. Like...none at all.

My bad (headache).

Date: 2009/06/26 00:52:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Vote cast for Wes.

Don't forget to bring me back that Emperor I've been dreaming of for years...

Date: 2009/06/29 14:37:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yeah, it is quite a mouthful, isn't it? And it doesn't get any better when you actualy TRY to read it in one go...

Date: 2009/06/30 12:49:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy Earth\Sun Revolution day Steve!


We kinda miss you (just a bit)...

Date: 2009/07/03 00:41:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
HB, RTH...

Date: 2009/08/21 06:22:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hi everyone!

Sorry if I haven't been around for a while, but I've been pretty busy with concerts organisation.

I am now starting to watch Flock of Dodos again, and I was just wondering if we have any new updates from the DI or intelligent design's new Trojan horse by now.

and for those who are not too far from West Midlands, UK, I'll be playing live in Dudley on September 27th.

Louis, if you ever want to have a nice cold beer, just let me know. I'll also be stranded for two days in london without much to do (25th and 26th of September)...

Date: 2009/08/22 01:57:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Henry, if you haven't seen the movie, it's quite interesting.

It's all about the debate between evolution and ID, with some memorable moments (Heckel's embryos are everywhere in Darwinist biology manuals <------HAHAHA!!!)

Date: 2009/08/22 08:28:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 22 2009,14:20)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 21 2009,12:22)
[SNIP]

Louis, if you ever want to have a nice cold beer, just let me know. I'll also be stranded for two days in london without much to do (25th and 26th of September)...

I shall check my calendar (i.e. speak to the Mrs), check with the boss (i.e. speak to the Mrs) and check my work (i.e. not nearly as important as speaking to the Mrs).

Beer. I've heard good things. It should be done. Any chance of other AtBCers at that time and place? We need to improve the European contingent's social calendar, the Yanks have been getting away with it for too long. After all, 'Ras, K.E., BWE, Arden, and Hughes met up with Carlson that time and realised they were all the same person (as well as being Denyse O'Leary).

Louis

Would be nice to have a meet-up with those who can. A nice moment around a wide table, full of beer, of course...

Pictures, videos and vomit-splattered shirts will be a nice addition...

Deadman: I think you are spot-on!

Date: 2009/08/24 04:11:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
As I said in over at the BW, I'll be in London on September 25th and 26th, if anyone is around.

I also have a show in Dudley (near Birmingham) on September 27th.

Ice cold beer is mandatory!

Date: 2009/08/25 08:26:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
'bout this "creationist university", is it actually legal?

Shouldn't it have been smitten by the Gods of Common Sense a long time ago?

Date: 2009/09/01 08:39:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog


Happy Birthday Khan!

Date: 2009/09/02 05:37:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 02 2009,00:55)
Quote (Quack @ Sep. 01 2009,15:07)
Yadda yadda, but what is The Theory of Intelligent Design ??? I don't hear ya?

Pre-Dover: An unknowable entity did unknowable things at unknowable times for unknowable reasons in an unknowable manner.  This is scientifically valid.

Post-Dover: Goddidit.  This is scientifically valid.

Don't you mean:

Pre-Dover: Goddidit.  This is scientifically valid.

Post-Dover: An unknowable entity did unknowable things at unknowable times for unknowable reasons in an unknowable manner.  This is scientifically valid.

?

On the information level, it seems more in agreement with Dr Dr Dr's studies.

Date: 2009/09/02 08:25:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
ok, I need a bit of time to happily join Dave and Bill's birthdays in a single image...

meanwhile, HB to both!

Date: 2009/09/03 12:17:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Brilliant, just plain brilliant!

I'm game for the soundtrack if needed :)

Date: 2009/09/05 13:00:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kristine @ Sep. 05 2009,18:54)
So, now the whole expelling of PZ "never happened"? Some nutjob named Talitha00Cumi on You Tube has informed me:
 
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Amused Child, you're lying through your false teeth, bro. NO ONE was thrown out. Not PZ, not anyone!

Do you need to lie to get attention? Were? you neglected as a child and now crave any sort of attention you can get?

PZ was one of the childish, irresponsible ones, and he was warned that he'd be throw out if he didn't behave, but he was never thrown out.

Stop lying.

This creature seems to be confusing the visit to the Creation Museum with the preview of "Expelled" - except that this person has been corrected several times!

Sweet dancing Jehova! What a douche!

Go get her, Kristine!

Date: 2009/09/07 16:31:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 07 2009,22:35)
Just wait for the Earth's next birthday, then count the candles on the cake. (But wear a fireproof suit! )

Henry

Sorry, but it has to be said:

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

Date: 2009/09/15 15:22:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hold on. Is this a green FleshLight*???








*Well, I suppose that's what it's called. It's not like I own one or anything. I just...I...saw it on a website. Yeah... a website that was referenced to me by... by... a friend! yes, by a friend!

Date: 2009/09/16 08:23:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Shhhuuush SLP, don't you dare unbalance teh kristian!

Date: 2009/09/16 18:09:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Whilst it might have been nice to hold onto the colonies it was far nicer to bring everyone home and annoy the French in some wars on a proper continent


ok Louis, the first round's on you if we meet!

I'll show you some french!

Date: 2009/09/30 13:43:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I just came back from Louis' fair country where I had a great time. Lovely weather and beautiful landscapes (I was staying in Basingstoke, not so far from Stonehenge and Salisbury).

We were picked up by a bus for a 3 hours drive to Dudley (near Birmingham) where we played a one hour gig. Lots of fans, a great ambiance, and we sold all our tshirts!

I only whish those morons would stop driving on the wrong side of the road! :p

Date: 2009/09/30 14:05:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
her towering intellect (magnified by close proximity to Casey Luskin)


Oh, c'mon! There are things growing under rocks that could appear intelligent in close proximity to unibrow Luskin!

edited to correct fatal gramatical paradox

Date: 2009/10/01 10:09:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
This "debate" has become quite a sad thing. We used to have funnier chew toys once (ahhh!!! FTK, were art thou?*).

I think every and all sanctimonious ignoramus fanatics such as FL should take a look at Augustin's work, just for the sake of it...

Now, if the pope is not enough to disprove FL's claims that ET and Christianity are incompatible, my dad is a doctor, MD, the real one, not the "won in a box of chocolate" kind, learned in history, science and theology, and he's also a quite devout Christian. yet, he totally accepts the theory of Evolution.

This alone should prove the guy wrong, since my dad is probably a better Christian than FL is. And he's a karate black belt and could take FL's dad anytime!

Ooops, sorry, I think I just raised the debate's level by at least 5 Phlogiston points!





*Not that there's anything wrong with it.......er......ok, my bad...

Date: 2009/10/01 10:45:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 01 2009,17:32)
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I think every and all sanctimonious ignoramus fanatics such as FL should take a look at Augustin's work, just for the sake of it...

I have, actually.   Augustine wrote that the earth was less than 6000 years old, he believed that God created everything instantly, (yes, literally), and he believed that the global Noahic Flood was literally true.

A very good YEC, to be sure!

FloydLee

...who lived in the 5th century. Quite a nice period for you to live in, as your standards are outmoded at best, and primitive at worst...


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Deadman: Considering that *I* am the one you agreed to "debate" with, Floyd Lee, I find it especially humorous that you seem to avoid addressing my posts at all now.


Yes, astonishing. It took the guy 23 minutes to answer my second message on this thread. but not one single start of a debut of an ignition of an answer to the real deep questions you guys asked...

Stupid puppet, I say

Date: 2009/10/01 10:55:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 30 2009,22:47)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 30 2009,19:43)
I just came back from Louis' fair country where I had a great time. Lovely weather and beautiful landscapes (I was staying in Basingstoke, not so far from Stonehenge and Salisbury).

We were picked up by a bus for a 3 hours drive to Dudley (near Birmingham) where we played a one hour gig. Lots of fans, a great ambiance, and we sold all our tshirts!

I only whish those morons would stop driving on the wrong side of the road! :p

You had a good time in Basingstoke followed by a good time in Dudley? Either you have ferociously low standards or you are an immense party animal. We'll go for the latter.

Louis

To be honest, downtown Basingstoke is really a beautiful place. I have a few nice pics that I can post. Plus it's there that I met my new girlfriend, so I could have spent three days among rabid Manchester fans (which I almost suspect I did)and still enjoy myself*.

As for Dudley, I didn't see much appart from the concert venue, the parking lot, a kind of chicken fastfood restaurant and the Quality hotel. But really, even the parking lot is an improvement on my bedroom!

I hope to return soon...very soon...


EDIT: Oh, and I got drunk. A lot...





*Life's always better when you get some!

Date: 2009/10/01 11:55:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And the hot waitress...

Date: 2009/10/01 20:37:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
hey Floyd! Do you frown upon shrimps or lobster? Would you stone your child to death if he/she is disobedient? Do you hate your daddy or your mommy?

if the answer to any of these questions is "no", then you are not a True Litteral Christian©

Christian litteralism is not a fuckin' buffet where you can pick whatever you like and leave aside the horse-radish!

Be true to yourself, if that's even possible at all...

Date: 2009/10/02 10:13:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
FL: your five big incompatibilities are basicaly non-valid. They are to a lesser extent an expression of either your personal views, or your ministry's views. They are nothing more than opinions.

The first part of this debate was to conclude wether evolution and Christianity were compatible or not. If at least 1 (one) Christian is able to reconcile his faith with evolution, then both are compatible, and this even if YOU don't agree! A basic course in logic would be a good starting point for you.

You have NO right to decide that this particular Christian is not a "real" or "good" Christian. Faith is a personal matter and every believer is free to embrace it in his/her own way. To say otherwise makes you a sanctimonious ass indulging in heavy proselytism.

Up yours!

Date: 2009/10/02 10:49:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Oct. 02 2009,17:38)
Floyd

Is "God" part of the required explanation for why water runs downhill?

Yes or no.

I personaly believe in Intelligent Falling...

Date: 2009/10/02 10:55:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 02 2009,17:46)
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If at least 1 (one) Christian is able to reconcile his faith with evolution, then both are compatible, and this even if YOU don't agree!


That Christian you speak of, should therefore be able to specifically state HOW he or she has reconciled evolution with their Christianity, (what specific supportable reasons they subscribe to for claiming a reconcilation).

And also sort of speak about HOW the clear published statements by evolutionists that constitute the Big Five Incompatiblities have been neutralized or reconciled by their stated reasons.  (Or if not, then he or she should honestly admit they've not been reconciled after all.)

At a minimum, they should simply be able to say what they believe or don't believe like Nmgirl did and just leave it at that.  That's honorable, even if it doesn't reconcile anything.

In this case, YOU are the one making the claim that evolution and Christianity are incompatible.

The burden of proof is on you. And just like for every and all trials/experiments/tests... if your claim is demonstrably false (at least one Christian, but actually a lot more than that, can reconcile his/her faith with evolution) then your claim can't be accepted as valid.

this is pure and simple logic!

There is no need for anyone here to justify themselves or elaborate on their faith, which once again is something PERSONAL!

EDIT: Answer Ras' damn question!

Date: 2009/10/02 11:14:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 02 2009,18:03)
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Is "God" part of the required explanation for why water runs downhill?

Yes or no.


Nope.  He's not.  Furthermore, hydrologists (unlike evolutionists) are silent on the issue of God as a required explantion.

(Please note, however:  In the Bible, God IS the required explanation for the origin of water itself.)

And also He is the Required Explanation for the origin of plants, animals, and (this is where you come in) humans too.

Of course, evolution and evolutionists deny that.  Which is why there's an Incompatiblity there.

I'd really like to see a Hydrologist invoque god(s) on a paper about water circulation. That would be funny.

if evolution theory has to deal with god's business, it is mostly and before all because religous zealots object. Let's see a religious movement attack Hydrology and I can bet you my car, girlfriend and my house on the French Riviera that you will start hearing about your god in hydrology papers, and not to his/her/its/their advantage.

Science is one thing, spirituality is another. they are not incompatible, just not part of the same field of studies. that's the beginning and the end of it.

By the way, do you deny heliocentrism? Because you must be aware that it is correct, yet the buyble, the inherent word of your god, says otherwise. So will you admit that your book can be wrong sometimes?

Date: 2009/10/02 11:27:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
By the way, "evolutionists" do not deny god(s)' part in the origin of life, species, even humans. They just don't adress the subject at all (since it is not the purpose of this particular branch of science), which is something you find really hard to drill into your little closed pea-sized brain!

Date: 2009/10/02 12:18:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Chayanov @ Oct. 02 2009,19:12)
Quit saying "Big Five Incompatibilities" over and over as if you've made some kind of slam-dunk argument.

#3 has already been demonstrated to be a complete loser argument unless you believe that God is literally a magical hominid. Which then raises all sorts of other problems.

Like, does god magicaly scratch his balls* when he wakes up in the morning?










*That's probably what thunders are...

Date: 2009/10/02 12:39:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Oct. 02 2009,18:37)
Before we can determine whether Christianity is compatible with evolution we have to determine which version of Christianity we are up against. FL's version may be compatible only with YEC creationism, while other versions have no problems with science whatsoever. I believe religion and God are matters of spirit and not about the material world, and I suggest the problem is FL, not science or Christianity.

Before we can get any further with this we have to see FL's evidence that his version is the only true version of Christianity.

Not to be redundant, but Quack is fuckin' right!

Let's stop everything until FL gives us some evidence!

Date: 2009/10/02 12:47:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Stanton @ Oct. 02 2009,19:43)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 02 2009,12:39)
Quote (Quack @ Oct. 02 2009,18:37)
Before we can determine whether Christianity is compatible with evolution we have to determine which version of Christianity we are up against. FL's version may be compatible only with YEC creationism, while other versions have no problems with science whatsoever. I believe religion and God are matters of spirit and not about the material world, and I suggest the problem is FL, not science or Christianity.

Before we can get any further with this we have to see FL's evidence that his version is the only true version of Christianity.

Not to be redundant, but Quack is fuckin' right!

Let's stop everything until FL gives us some evidence!

You mean like how FL claimed to know the exact location where the Garden of Eden was, then tried to imply that I was insane when I asked why no one has ever found anything at that location to suggest that it was the Garden of Eden in the first place?

I think this one is the least of his problems...

Date: 2009/10/02 12:49:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry to post-a-lot, but maybe at this point we should just stop everything, let Deadman (instigator of the thread) ask ONE single question to Floyd and not post until he's answered it?

Date: 2009/10/02 12:53:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Oct. 02 2009,05:42)
hey now

piano picklers ain't all bad.  just Frill

Do keyboardists count as well? I mean, they're still a lot better than cartographs!

Date: 2009/10/02 13:05:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 02 2009,20:03)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 02 2009,18:49)
Sorry to post-a-lot, but maybe at this point we should just stop everything, let Deadman (instigator of the thread) ask ONE single question to Floyd and not post until he's answered it?

How can I support this without posting?

Damn!

Louis

Well, ok, that's a conundrum. But a boy can dream...

Date: 2009/10/02 14:50:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Instead, the image-of-God changes everything for US, for us humans.  WE are fundamentally & permanently different from ALL animals and all other Earth life because WE are created in the Image of God.  The Image Of God affects every part of us:  spirit, mind, AND body.  


Then why the hell do we have to piss or crap? not so godly, IMO...

Another result of the fall? Before the fall there was no crap?

EDIT: sorry if I broke the protocol. This is just so tardalicious, I just needed another bite.

Quel grosse buse!*





*pardon my french

Date: 2009/10/02 15:01:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Chayanov @ Oct. 02 2009,21:57)
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But that is false.  That is not what the Bible's image-of-God claim entails.  The image-of-God thing is NOT talking about God having a belly button or a double chin or an Adam's apple or some ovaries.  "God is Spirit", the bible says.  

Instead, the image-of-God changes everything for US, for us humans.  WE are fundamentally & permanently different from ALL animals and all other Earth life because WE are created in the Image of God.  The Image Of God affects every part of us:  spirit, mind, AND body.


So first you say God isn't a physical being, but "spirit".

Then you say that being created in God's image means both "spirit" and body.

Which brings us back to "God the Magical Hominid".

I'm starting to see in FL's posts the desperate cry of someone trully wishing he was special.

Date: 2009/10/02 15:11:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Chayanov @ Oct. 02 2009,22:07)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 02 2009,15:01)
Quote (Chayanov @ Oct. 02 2009,21:57)
 
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But that is false.  That is not what the Bible's image-of-God claim entails.  The image-of-God thing is NOT talking about God having a belly button or a double chin or an Adam's apple or some ovaries.  "God is Spirit", the bible says.  

Instead, the image-of-God changes everything for US, for us humans.  WE are fundamentally & permanently different from ALL animals and all other Earth life because WE are created in the Image of God.  The Image Of God affects every part of us:  spirit, mind, AND body.


So first you say God isn't a physical being, but "spirit".

Then you say that being created in God's image means both "spirit" and body.

Which brings us back to "God the Magical Hominid".

I'm starting to see in FL's posts the desperate cry of someone trully wishing he was special.

His last few posts do kind of have that he's-trying-more-to-convince-himself-than-us vibe to them.

yep!


BTW, 300th post, so here comes:


THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!

Date: 2009/10/02 15:40:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
May I?


Injecting supernatural causation in ANY scientific theory would end up destroying the theory itself. Not because it would make it invalid, but because it would make it untestable, unfalsifiable!

GODDIDIT is a very old, very worn out and very wrong way of trying to understand our world. With ideas or theories such as GODDIDIT, there would be no advancement in medicine, biology, technology, cosmology...

if you, FL are satisfied with the GODDIDIT explanation, good for you. But please don't try to convince others that their views are wrong. Try first to convince yourself that you still have a bit of faith left. And if you can't, join us on the dark side where every question begs a different answer and where the brain is actually more than a device made for cooling blood*.

Up yours! Again...



*thanks to those who got the reference...


Edited for bad stuff...

Date: 2009/10/04 06:33:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col....dawkins

Funny :D

Date: 2009/10/04 08:44:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 19 2009,05:20)
Anybody here ever play Diplomacy?

Now there is an intense game.

Sorry for the late reply RB, but Diplo is one of my fav games. we even had a great session 3 years ago in full period costumes, just for the fun of it. Of course, we still allow spying before round resolutions :D

Definitely a great game of the mind and cunning!

Date: 2009/10/05 03:50:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
A rational, logical free-thinker will say:
-"I don't understand this, what's wrong with me?"

A blindfolded, bigoted religious zealot will say:
-"I don't understand this, what's wrong with it? Oh, nevermind, it's wrong ayway 'cos the bible says so!"

Date: 2009/10/05 05:07:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Floyd, your discussion/debate with Heddle belongs to Phylosophy and Theology. Would you please mind adressing OldMan and Deadman's points.

It would greatly enrich this thread, IMO.

Date: 2009/10/05 05:44:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 05 2009,12:26)
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Would you please mind adressing OldMan and Deadman's points.

Ask them to start addressing MY points for a change.  (There's plenty for them to chew on, that's for sure!).

FloydLee

Well Floyd, once again I'd say that you made the initial claims, so the burden of proof's on you.

This is the way debates, scientific inquiries, trials work. With intellectual honesty...

I am but a mere bystander who enjoys a good debate, and so far this hasn't been a great exemple.

Date: 2009/10/05 05:55:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Beware, the Scienthuse Synchronized Goalpost Moving Team:

Date: 2009/10/05 06:02:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Floyd; I am going to copy and translate your five incompatibilities in French.

This afternoon (it's 1 pm here right now) , I will go to the St Helene Parish, 100 meters from my place. It is a Catholic parish, where I was baptized, and the priest there is really nice (not much kiddy-fundling, plus he did my grand-aunt's funeral admirably). I will try to get his views on the subject and get back to you...

This should be interesting, at least.

Date: 2009/10/05 06:23:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 05 2009,13:18)
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This afternoon (it's 1 pm here right now) , I will go to the St Helene Parish, 100 meters from my place. It is a Catholic parish, where I was baptized, and the priest there is really nice (not much kiddy-fundling, plus he did my grand-aunt's funeral admirably). I will try to get his views on the subject and get back to you...

Sincere thanks.  You'd think the professing Christians in this forum would come up with their OWN personal compatibility/incompatibility theology for examination and consideration, but since that's obviously not the case, I'm grateful for your plans to import somebody who can actually step up to that plate.......  

Well, it's not actually any of the Christians present here's job to provide anything regarding their personal faith. But at least a minister is entitled to respond to theological questions, so i think it might settle this issue a bit...

Date: 2009/10/05 08:16:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, there was a funeral this afternoon, so I couldn't talk to the priest.

For the sake of clarity and honesty, here are some pics of the church, the coffin-cars (whatever the name is), me holding the 5 incompatibilities in front of the church, and me with the Five incompatibilities. It was 2:53 PM

i'll try again tomorrow, if nobody kicks it in the meantime...

:












edit: tyhe old lady in blue wasn't even part of the familly, but she just kept looking at me like i was satan incarnated. prejudices about long hair and goatees...?

Date: 2009/10/05 09:11:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
P.P.P.S. Turning up to a church when there's a funeral on to badger the priest about some idiot creationist Yank's utterly inane twattery about evolutionary biology....Priceless!


That's what i do baby! :D

Date: 2009/10/05 10:10:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 05 2009,17:04)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 05 2009,09:01)
P.P.P.S. Turning up to a church when there's a funeral on to badger the priest about some idiot creationist Yank's utterly inane twattery about evolutionary biology....Priceless!

My goodness. Above and beyond the call of duty, indeed. Shroedinger's Perro, I salute you! Trying, at least, to annoy both Floyd and some poor baffled priest is like two birds with one stone: Boink! boink!

Nah! that's just commitment*







*to honesty, promise-keeping and all that stuff so undertaken by religious fanatics...

Date: 2009/10/05 10:14:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And yes, the tree on pics 1,2,3 and 4 is a a common Eucalyptus. We have a lot of them here!

Date: 2009/10/05 15:46:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (sledgehammer @ Oct. 05 2009,18:38)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 05 2009,08:04)
   
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 05 2009,09:01)
P.P.P.S. Turning up to a church when there's a funeral on to badger the priest about some idiot creationist Yank's utterly inane twattery about evolutionary biology....Priceless!

My goodness. Above and beyond the call of duty, indeed. Shroedinger's Perro, I salute you! Trying, at least, to annoy both Floyd and some poor baffled priest is like two birds with one stone: Boink! boink!

Not to mention, annoying the "Lady In Blue".  I'll bet it was the earring, SD.  Doesn't Satan wear an earring, or am I thinking of Mr. Clean?  Anyway, Thanks for the pics!  Above and beyond the call, fer sure, fer sure.

As my army instructor used to say:

"earrings are for gays* and pirates, and so far I haven't seen any pirate ship parked around here!"










*Not that there is anything wrong with that...

Date: 2009/10/05 19:33:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Oh, look -- it's a striated andesitic boulder on the north side of the Santa Cruz River valley, on the San Fernando terrace at an elevation of 40 m above the river valley, 90 km away from the Atlantic Ocean, right about where Darwin recorded similar erratic blocks of similar size.


Those erratic boulders look pretty dangerous to me!*







*Pratchett's Interesting Times reference inside...**







**I've been waiting decades for someone to use "erratic boulders" on a forum. THAT'S commitment!

Date: 2009/10/05 19:44:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JonF @ Oct. 06 2009,02:35)
Conservapedia's Conservative Bible Project:

 
Quote
Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. ...

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:

1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias. ...

4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle". ...

7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning

8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story. ...


Oh, my.

Is this some kind of joke???

Date: 2009/10/06 07:29:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JonF @ Oct. 06 2009,14:22)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 05 2009,20:44)
 
Quote (JonF @ Oct. 06 2009,02:35)
Conservapedia's Conservative Bible Project:

   
Quote
Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. ...

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:

1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias. ...

4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle". ...

7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning

8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story. ...


Oh, my.

Is this some kind of joke???

It might possibly be a joke, but if it is it's the best-constructed one of all time.

Of course, on some level it is definitely a joke... one that Andy Schlafly doesn't get. On Pharyngula people have plucked lots of examples of particularly stupid edits. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....ect.php

XD Classic PZ!

Date: 2009/10/06 16:19:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
You know, I'm starting to wonder if we wouldn't be better off telling FL he's right and leave it at that. He's made it quite obvious that he won't submit his "opinions" to critical analyses.

It is not, after all, so hard to admit that evolution is incompatible with his own particular looney brand of Christianism. Let's leave him to his own interpretation of faith, and let the other millions of interpretations that accept evolution laugh at him with scorn (or scones. I love scones...).

Else he will have, as prompted before, to prove an demonstrate why his particular brand of christianism is the right one.

BTW, Floyd, what are your thoughts regarding the Conservapedia Bible project?

Date: 2009/10/06 18:45:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 06 2009,23:37)
Quote
Let's leave him to his own interpretation of faith, and let the other millions of interpretations that accept evolution laugh at him with scorn (or scones. I love scones...)

Hey, speaking of those other millions of interpretations, how are your efforts going with bringing in that Christian clergyman to provide his interpretation?  I was very impressed with that post, quite honestly.

Working on it. I didn't have that much free time today to engage in a discussion with the guy. I'll probably have to call the church to get an appointment, just to be sure the priest knows I'm coming...


In the meantime, I'd like to invite you to watch "Flock of Dodos", an almost unbalanced documentary about evo/ID issues. It will help you grasp some views about christian/evo compatibility.

I would have invited you to watch "Religulous", since there are a few instances of priests (of different denominations) giving their opinions and that of the church(es) about evo/christian issues, but even I find this movie a bit over the top at times...

Anywho, Flock of Dodos is at least balanced and entertaining.

Date: 2009/10/07 02:25:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It would be interesting to point out the parallels between our two current shewtoys' arguments (FL and Clownshoes). Very similar tactics at time. WE know these kind of tactics, but it might enlighten the casual onlooker.

Just a thought...

Date: 2009/10/07 03:51:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Naahh. You summed it up quite nicely...

Date: 2009/10/07 06:14:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
A little fellow I found sadly lifeless after a rainstorm where temperatures went down in a nick:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_Snake

Possibly a young adult, judging by the brown coloration and the still very marked parallel lines on its back. It was a bit over a meter long...

Date: 2009/10/07 07:43:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 07 2009,13:54)
Quote
Even more amusingly, when you are saying " maybe the pope isn't aware of my made-up list of incompatibilities" you are merely saying "the Pope isn't really a Christian until he agrees with me" in a slightly different way.

Now THAT's a pretty good stretch, Deadman. Please go ahead and provide supporting reason(s) for that one.  And be sure they're rational reasons too!

If I may:

From the moment you assume the pope MUST have the same faith as yours, in every possible way, to be a christian, you basicaly shut down the debate.

I'm willing to bet a lot that the pope doesn't share your own particular kind of faith. Neither are millions other christians worlwide. Those millions of christians don't give a crap about your 5 big stuff, and yet they happily live their faith. Do you think they're all doomed to New-Jersey because they don't believe the same way you do?

Could you maybe try to humble yourself and admit that in this debate you are only refering to your own personal view of christianity (or that of your particular sect)? Could you admit that the largest christian sects, such as Roman Chatholics for exemple, do not adhere to a 100% litteral reading of the bible, but instead put their minds and logic to the test by accepting parts of it as allegorical, and incidently acceptinf evolution as well without feeling at risk of eternal flames? or are they all wrong and you are the only right one?

Date: 2009/10/07 07:52:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And instead of changing the subject and moving the goalposts, why don't you answer to Erasmus?

You look more and more like a pathetic fool flinging poo at people while screaming "I'M NOT A MONKEY!"*




*This metaphore was brought to you by the I-Am-Tired-And-Couldn't-Find-Anything-Else Foundation...

Date: 2009/10/07 09:22:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok guys, I'm giving up. This guy is a complete tool!

Edit: Floyd's tactics

Date: 2009/10/07 13:23:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
ok, a bit late, but still...

Happy belated birthday!!!

Date: 2009/10/07 14:29:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
But, Louis, what about doing it for shit and giggles? It's not so much time consuming when you can home onto the creotards' stupidity in one go. your wit would be sadly miss here if you just went away.

for the sake of Fun, keep up the fight! :D

Date: 2009/10/07 14:32:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OMG!!! those pink things under the cute bug! What are they? WHAt ARE THEY???






Granted, lack of sleep is not as fun as it seems. Sorry...

Date: 2009/10/07 15:07:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Welcome to you OgreMkV in these here heaten lands.

And thanks for sharing, good points there!

Date: 2009/10/07 16:07:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, Floyd, just shut up already! you are becoming really tiresome. I'm not even entering the debate anymore, except to comment on your stupidity and hypocrisy.


Well done, buddy!

Date: 2009/10/08 07:45:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
let's face it: it's always nice to find a chewtoy willing to run the gautlet for our amusement. But this one (and FL) are starting to get tiresome...

Date: 2009/10/08 08:10:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Robin @ Oct. 08 2009,15:08)
[quote=Louis,Oct. 07 2009,18:54][/quote]
Quote
Marvellous! All my friends will be there and hell has all the best bands. Plus, red hot poker up the jacksie, S and M-tastic my friends. I've been meaning to expand my kinks. Win win all round. Do we get beer?


Sorry Louis...hate to break it to you, but the reason you can donate your kidneys is that there is no beer in heaven (or heck).

That's no gonna fly for me. Do we get Scotch, at least?

Date: 2009/10/08 08:56:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:41)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,13:45)
let's face it: it's always nice to find a chewtoy willing to run the gautlet for our amusement. But this one (and FL) are starting to get tiresome...

Starting?

Louis

yes, because before that I was most happy to use their names in search of funny anagrams.

For exemple, Floyde Lee gloriously comes out as Yodel Elf...


EDIT: and you, Louis, come out as Oil Us...weird...

Date: 2009/10/08 09:07:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Simply not able to, so far.  


Yep, you've single-handedly beaten the pope and any other christians to pulp with your cunning arguments.

congrats!




Go be the next messiah. there's a whole new world of possibilities for you!

Date: 2009/10/08 09:20:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,16:11)
{Aside: SD are you prepared, you are about to enter the AtBC upper echelons, I have spoken to the Masters and your admission has been agreed. You will be taught the secret handshake. How you respond to this post will determine your level of entry. Choose carefully.}

 
Quote


[SNIP]

Oil Us

[SNIP]


That's what your mum and female relatives/girlfriend said.

Thank you.

Louis

Er....herm.....



PM me for my mom's and "relative" girlfriends contacts (including phone numbers, facebook accounts, yearly OBGY results and such...)

So, about that promotion...

Date: 2009/10/08 09:25:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice.

But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard"

Date: 2009/10/08 09:27:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 08 2009,16:18)
As we have just seen with quotes from many people...humans say lots of things, or have them altered long after their deaths to mean unintended or contradictory things. What you believe Jesus to mean may not be the interpretation others ascribe to that alleged utterance.

The difference is that they don't need to threaten you with notions of hell to force you to accept their view. But you?

Cue: Yodel Elf's head explodes...

Date: 2009/10/08 13:54:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Doesn't matter, Floyd. The parrot is dead. Learn to accept that and move on, working through your stages of loss and grief.



According to the Kübler-Ross model, the five stages of grief are:

1-Denial
2-Anger
3-Bargaining
4-Depression
5-Acceptance

So far, Yodel Elf has only shown signs of (1), with a hypocritical form of (3). He surely* needs to move on...

 
Quote
Understood, but can you at least let me know if you have any success getting that Christian clergyman on board with his perspective?  
He would be the only Christian in this forum, in all the pages of this thread, to actually step up to the plate in terms of offering specific reconciliations with which to negate the Big Five.  

(If he chooses to offer them, that is.)

FloydLee


I've come to the conclusion that losing my and this poor priest's time to answer your blatant sillyness is beyond the scope of logic. Sorry there Yodel Elf, but it would be useless. As for christians on this forum, they have adressed your main claim "evolution and christianism are incompatible" with compelling clarity. If YOU are not able to assimilate their views and answers, it is entirely YOUR problem...







*My name is NOT Shirley!

Date: 2009/10/08 14:03:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,16:36)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,15:25)
About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice.

But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard"

Yes the LOLCat and HAHA THIS IS YOU would have been the standard method, and indeed would have earned you a reasonable promotion. Creative use thereof would of risen you to higher ranks.

Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. I'm afraid at this time you are simply too biblically oriented for a full promotion. You do however get a sticker for recognising the correct path which reads "I'm Mummy's Special Boy!". So well done, champ, well done.

Louis

Well now, that sucks! Can't I even get the first half of the 15 minutes secret handshake for offering my female relatives?

Damn! You Church-Burning-Ebola-Boys are more closed-up than the famous "can't-fink-of-a-name" Ankh-Morpork troll gang*...






*who have, as a permanent member, a block of concrete on a piece of string.

Date: 2009/10/08 14:21:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:12)
But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys.

Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog?

Louis

P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy.

Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum?
Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex!
Brian: I wasn't!
Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? "

Date: 2009/10/08 14:42:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:32)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,20:21)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:12)
But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys.

Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog?

Louis

P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy.

Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum?
Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex!
Brian: I wasn't!
Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? "

All right, Shirley, you're in.

Now we here at the Church Burnin' Ebola boys are strongly affiliated with the Evil Atheist Conspiracy* (which doesn't exist). There will be no black helicopters converging on your position as we speak and they will not in any way be full of Training Operatives who will provide you with armaments we don't own and train you in handshakes and anti-religious person techniques we haven't developed.

Louis

* The EAC doesn't exist. Forget I said anything, which of course I didn't, because there's nothing for me to have said anything about. Our operatives, which are not in any way arriving at your location as we speak, will not be erasing the memory of this post from your mind. Because this post didn't get posted and those operatives don't exist. This in no way goes for all of you reading this, that would be impossible. Or would it be?** Remember: The Evil Atheist Conspiracy, We're After Your Puppies and Kids. Or we would be if we existed. Which we don't

** Yes it would.***

*** Or would it be?**

Oh, ok. That's all settled, then.

Should I prepare some cookies* and milk** for my non-existant visitors? Just asking...







*girls

**booze

Date: 2009/10/08 15:14:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
* I know these are traditionally Norman/Northern French tipples, but I forget which part of France you live in (our operatives know, but I'm {ahem} pretending not to know), so I can't request regional delicacies.



Pastis is actualy a typical south drink. I live in Nice, on the French Riviera, and Pastis is our traditional drink. Calvados is drank here as well, but as a post-dinner cordial...

Date: 2009/10/08 15:26:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Yet you have people around here talking like the Fourth incompatibility, the reality of the situation, doesn't even exist.  As if ignoring the problem makes it magically go away.


Yodel Elf talking about reality is like a goldfish talking about space travel...*







*i DID say that I wasn't debating anymore, didn't I?

Date: 2009/10/08 16:17:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 08 2009,23:07)
Here's a quotation from Deadman:
 
Quote
The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.

Here's a quotation from Robin:
 
Quote
The Pope accepts evolution under all conditions as he states...."

And then you guys wanna declare victory despite all that contradiction?

You dumbfuck! the existence of a god is NOT ADRESSED by the ToE. A handful of opinions from some scientists is NOT the ToE!

The opinions of the pope, on the other hand, ARE part of catholicism, christianity and the whole shebang.

so if the pope says evolution is compatible with christianism, then IT IS SO!


Arrrggh! Damn, I said I wouldn't debate with Yodel Elf!

Date: 2009/10/08 16:20:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Received the message as well. Sorry Wes :(

Date: 2009/10/08 18:42:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 09 2009,01:38)
Frankly, you Europeans should be ashamed of yourselves.

Date: 2009/10/08 19:25:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 09 2009,02:16)
I've gotten some advice on pitching myself to other expedition companies, so maybe I will go to Antarctica, just not on this one.

I'm not sure exactly what Luis did to keep the votes coming in, but he did a great job of it. Here's hoping his blogging has as much enthusiasm behind it.

Louis already answered that one:

Quote
willingness to post nudey pictures of himself


I am sure, though, that you can easily find another fundation that will base its choices on personal merit instead of popular vote...

Date: 2009/10/08 20:04:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Well continue on in your omniscience.  Bye for good.  No more of this cancerous hate for me! Stay in here and be legends in your own mind.  I'm starting to really feel sick of you, so it's time to go.  nmgirl was the only true science person and able to communicate her views with little sarcasm.


Well, looks like we've done broken Clownshoes...

Date: 2009/10/09 05:00:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yodel Elf: The first thing that strikes me in this text is the blatant presence of the name "Philip Johnson". Any reference to that sucker automaticaly ruins any of your arguments. Thanks for playing, go read the fuckin' Wedge Document...

Wimp!

Date: 2009/10/09 05:19:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 09 2009,12:09)
FL
   
Quote
You can no longer quarantine 'em out if you admit teleology at any point of the evolutionary process.


For the sake of argument lets say that you are right.

At what point was telology involved with evolution?

At the start?

In the middle?

When was evolution prodded with the telic stick?

Do you know? How can you tell? What evidence do you have?

He can't answer to that, because for him the evolution process doesn't exist. remember? 6000 years old earth, Adam and Eve, the talking snake...

Date: 2009/10/09 15:10:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Robin @ Oct. 09 2009,19:38)
[quote=oldmanintheskydidntdoit,Oct. 09 2009,10:25][/quote]
Quote
 
Quote
The New Testament's clear postion (Romans 5:12-17) is that death entered this world only AFTER Adam and Eve sinned.  Romans 5:12-17 draws a very huge, very tight historical linkage between Adam and what Adam did (the problem) and Christ and what Christ did (the solution).  


So, Dinosaurs had sharp teeth to open coconuts.

Discuss.


The problem I have the silly thinking that goes into thinking Paul meant NO DEATH before the fall is that such a situation requires the absence of any form of energy transfer whatsoever. Think about it - no death as Paul describes creates a world where even grass didn't die. No eating of any kind because such consumption for nutrition requires death of the source of energy. Unless all life was solar powered prior to the fall (which then would beg a number of logistical issues in and of itself) a literal interpretation of Paul automatically leads to a world without any life at all.

This is bloody brilliant, short of a masterpiece!


Congrats robin!

Date: 2009/10/09 15:15:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 09 2009,19:17)
Forgive me because I intend to quote Frankfurt on this one:

Ok, who here is even remotely surprised that louis needs to "quote" a Frankfurt?*









*Sorry, but since this thread looks more and more like a peanut gallery I thought my expertise on the subject of not-so-subtle penis references might be needed...

Date: 2009/10/09 17:52:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Con artists


funny tidbit: in French, "con" or "connard" can either mean a pussy (or twat) or an asshole.

In regard to this wonderful analogy, I duely insist on calling Yodel Elf a con artist...

Date: 2009/10/09 19:20:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Doc Bill @ Oct. 10 2009,01:46)
Same with me and it was a POTW!

POTW? Proofs, Doc, we need proofs!

EDIT: this "new page" glinch is very common here, and ppb is quite right. The first post of the new page doesn't usualy appear before someone else posts, which coul be cumbersome at times...

Date: 2009/10/09 19:36:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 10 2009,02:05)
Quote
And, more importantly as this bears directly on Grand Canyon carving, once the planet was completely covered in water, how did it drain?


Snowball earth? :p

Yeah, I knew this whole flud thing was about snowballing

Date: 2009/10/12 04:34:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yodel Elf: Very interesting point of view...

Date: 2009/10/12 05:47:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
POTÆ!


(Post of the æon)


Seconded!

Date: 2009/10/12 07:33:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog

Date: 2009/10/12 09:36:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
dear Numbnuts.

Do you remotely understand the difference between "excluding" and "not requiring"?

Damn! English is not even my language, and I know better than this joke!

Numbnuts (again)*







*Sorry, but verbal abuse is all Yodel Elf deserves right now, since moderate, logical, honnest debate doesn't move him in the least...

EDIT: 'cause I forgot a "*" somewhere.

Date: 2009/10/12 16:27:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, the guy may be a ravening maniac frothing at the lips while bashing his bible, but at least I concede he has good musical tastes. ELP rules!

Date: 2009/10/13 01:58:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
About Oldroyd, first a few details about The (Australian) Weekend Review:

Country:
Australia
Language:
English
Content description:
Books, Arts, Film and TV supplement of the Australian Weekend

link

Not exactly either a scientific or religious, or even remotely serious source.

Second, when you make a basic search for The Australian Weekend review + Oldroyd, you only find 6 results, one of which is this very forum. The other 5 sites are all YEC forums and sites.

link

I would bet a lot that this Oldroyd "article" is yet another fabrication by the lying-for-jebus AIG folks...

Date: 2009/10/13 17:15:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Actually, we've already looked at Scripture (and the Pope too), and to whatever extent evolution exists (such as microevolution, but NOT macroevolution, for the latter has never been observed), God IS the required explanation for it.



Nutjob!

By the way, if Da Flud deposited all those layers with dead dinos and all, what particular process actually "carved" the Grand Canyon? Why at this particular location? The mighty draining of the waters back to the fountains of the deep? If so, may we find the sinkhole to these fountains if we follow the river all the way to its end?

Just asking...

Date: 2009/10/13 17:31:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 14 2009,00:25)
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 13 2009,17:15)
Here's a question for the entire house.  Given the following statement:

"Evolution has no goal."  (Sources already cited.)

Does ANYBODY in this forum disagree with that specific statement?

Does water flowing downhill have a goal?

Is God required for an explanation of that?

yeah, but see, Yodel Elf NEEDS evolution to have a goal, so he can continue to live in his little fairytale where he is a "special creation" and his sky daddy loves him so much more because he is special...

Date: 2009/10/13 17:52:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 14 2009,00:43)
Quote (Dan @ Oct. 13 2009,02:11)
[...]

In fact, FL has been shown five ways to escape it.  According to FL, these five posters have all performed a task that cannot be performed!

Thank you, FL, for considering the five of us to be superhumans who can perform amazing feats of reasoning!

And they probably violated the SLoT while doing it!!111!!one!! :p

Ahhh, the SLoT, my favorite!

Creotard: "the SLoT requires an external source of energy to allow change. That source is God!!!1111oneshift!!"

Normal guy: "look up, fucktard"


The End

Date: 2009/10/14 03:56:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Good luck with the house Wes, those are difficult times for investments.

By the way, how is your missus doing, alligator-wise?

Date: 2009/10/14 07:31:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
"This isn't really, and never has been a debate about science. It's about religion and philosophy."


Philip E. Johnson*, about the ID movement.

Therefore, the next part of the debate is useless, except if everyone here enjoys Yodel Elf's stupidity as much as I do...





*Just writing the name makes me want to hurl...

Date: 2009/10/14 07:55:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 14 2009,14:41)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 14 2009,07:31)
   
Quote
"This isn't really, and never has been a debate about science. It's about religion and philosophypolitics and power."


Philip E. Johnson*, about the ID movement.

Therefore, the next part of the debate is useless, except if everyone here enjoys Yodel Elf's stupidity as much as I do...





*Just writing the name makes me want to hurl...

Fixed that for you.

PS: Those wanting to hurl should learn the basics here. You just might be the man to help knock Kilkenny of their perch, y'know.

yeah, Hurling is quite cool. In France, we have another cool game in the same spirit, although a lot less sofisticated: La Soule

Wouldn't mind hurling against Piwee Johnson, though...

Date: 2009/10/14 08:40:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 14 2009,15:35)
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You were toast the first time a Christian posted that he/she believed in evolution.

Rosenhouse has refuted this argument.  What was your response to his statement, Nmgirl?

Who the fuck cares about Rosenhouse's opinion?

The simple fact that at least ONE christian accepts evolution nullifies your claim. That's the end of it. Game over!

No amount of lies, quoteminning or intellectual dishonnesty can change this FACT!

On to the next subject, Yodel Elf...

Date: 2009/10/14 14:33:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 14 2009,21:27)
But I'm not interested in folks trying to play games, trying to pretend that "abiogenesis is separate from evolution" based on a stylistic violation on a quotation.  

Quote
The origin of life is a necessary precursor for biological evolution, but understanding that evolution occurred once organisms appeared and investigating how this happens does not depend on understanding exactly how life began.[195] The current scientific consensus is that the complex biochemistry that makes up life came from simpler chemical reactions, but it is unclear how this occurred.[196] Not much is certain about the earliest developments in life, the structure of the first living things, or the identity and nature of any last universal common ancestor or ancestral gene pool.[197][198] Consequently, there is no scientific consensus on how life began, but proposals include self-replicating molecules such as RNA,[199] and the assembly of simple cells.[200]


There you go

Next subject, please...

Date: 2009/10/14 15:23:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 14 2009,22:17)
Wikipedia, SD?  You have multiple statements from well known published OOL evolutionists that show that abiogenesis is part and parcel of evolution, and the best you can do is a generalized Wiki snip that doesn't even address nor refute each particular expert's statement?

Well, if you were honest enough, you would go to that wiki page and follow the links. But that's too much to ask to a lying, crawling piece of crap like yourself.

but I won't expect you to undestand any basic concept anymore. when you are stupid enough to not see the difference between a general "evolutionary history" and the "theory of evolution", there's not much more we can do.

Sir Yodel Elf, you are a twat!

Date: 2009/10/14 15:58:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 14 2009,22:49)
Quote
3. But FL says he can't understand how they get around his five big incompatibilities

Uhhh, Dan, they DON'T get around them.  In fact, the Pope re-affirms the first three of them (you saw his quotations yourself) and is silent on the final two.  Agreed?

One last time, Yodel Elf:

NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR BFFs!!! The simple fact that a large number of christians find their faith compatible with evolution makes you WRONG!

If you are too stupid to understand that, please GTF out of here!

Date: 2009/10/14 16:21:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 14 2009,23:16)
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NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR BFFs!!!

Hmmm.  Judging from your current stress level, I'd say that at YOU care about those incompatibilities, and  quite a bit!!!!  Heh!!

You are the one elevating my stress level. Your inhability to grasp even the most basic of concepts is a testimony to dumbfuckery everywhere.

You are a troll of the worst kind: a preaching troll. go proselytise somewhere else, or move on to the next subject...

Date: 2009/10/14 17:48:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, enough of this crap, right?

the ToE doesn't require god(s), in any way. I, as an atheist, am totally satisfied with this. And the ToE works very well without god(s).

But the ToE doesn't deny god(s) either. It doesn't adress the matter. Christians can definitely reconcile their faith with evolution. Each christian can make his/her own idea about the role of god(s) regarding evolution. And this is none of your damn business

See? ToE is so elegant it can actually fullfil anyone's needs. except for the terminally endoctrinated, to the point where their brain cannot process reality anymore. There is no elegance whatsoever in blind dogma.

You are weak in many ways, Yodel Elf, and should be thankful that at least CM is praying for you. If I was a believer, I wouldn't even bother!




EDIT: feel free to replace "christian" with "jew", "muslim", "zoroastrist", "venerialist", "Mythraesist"...

Date: 2009/10/14 18:14:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Some insights about god(s) (although definitely the christian and jewish one):

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Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, fuckin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!


Quote
God is a 12 years old with an ant farm!


All these quotes are taken from a movie: The Devil's Advocate. They are a creation, and yet, they echo some rightfull feelings about the god(s) you are worshipping, Yodel Elf, if you belive in the litteracy of the bible...

Date: 2009/10/14 18:27:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Question, Yodel Elf:

What is the rational reason for the bible being true and all other cults being wrong? (Circular logic such as "because the bible says so" or "a billion believers can't be wrong" or "my minister says so" or "my parents say so" doesn't qualify as rational reason)...

Date: 2009/10/15 04:34:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just watched PZ's lecture at AAI 2009. He nailed it!

Date: 2009/10/15 06:31:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Oct. 15 2009,13:04)
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Yeah, I knew this whole flud thing was about snowballing

If you'd only left out the link. Thank God it wears off though...
Is it possible to be a prissy liberal?

Oh, Quack, I'm really sorry about that. It's just that maybe not everyone knows what snowballing is.

on the other hand, I didn't force you to click the link :p

Date: 2009/10/15 10:05:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Let me illustrate Ras' question with a cute lolcat:


Date: 2009/10/15 16:31:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Oct. 15 2009,21:32)
This thread actually is lots of fun as long as I avoid the FL originals and just go for the replies. I just can't stand undiluted stupidity, I need the chaser to down it.

That's what I've been doing for more than 40 pages now  :D

Date: 2009/10/15 18:00:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yodel, go stuff yourself. You'll be doing humanity a favor.

I'm done with that turkey!

Date: 2009/10/15 18:35:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 16 2009,01:09)
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Yodel, go stuff yourself. You'll be doing humanity a favor.  I'm done with that turkey!

Wow, SD, that's a killer refutation of my post to Nmgirl.   But is that the best you've got?

Like I care refuting your stupid blabber.

Date: 2009/10/15 19:38:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 16 2009,02:32)


This was on the wall of the garage of the place we are trying to buy.

Stop posting stick-insect porn!  :p

Date: 2009/10/16 07:54:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
http://assembly.coe.int/Main.as....580.htm


yeah, we rule! :D

Date: 2009/10/16 08:14:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
14. All leading representatives of the main monotheistic religions have adopted a much more moderate attitude. Pope Benedict XVI, for example, as his predecessor Pope John-Paul II, today praises the role of science in the evolution of humanity and recognises that the theory of evolution is “more than a hypothesis”.


Alinea 14 of the Council of Europe parliamentary Assembly resolution 1580 (2007). You can't really get a higher institution, and this one clearly states the compatibility of faith and ToE. You can't lie in a resolution...

Suck it!

Date: 2009/10/16 09:21:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
And that's not natural.  That's supernatural.  That's how we got here, Jasper.


Yodel Elf, that's a rather harsh and definitive statement without any proof to support it. care to elaborate?


Edit for grammar and stuff...

Date: 2009/10/16 09:25:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 16 2009,16:23)
Quote
All leading representatives of the main monotheistic religions have adopted a much more moderate attitude. Pope Benedict XVI, for example, as his predecessor Pope John-Paul II, today praises the role of science in the evolution of humanity and recognises that the theory of evolution is “more than a hypothesis”.

So, the Council of Europe chose not to address the Incompatibilities that both Popes have presented in their respective statements.  Convenient.

What incompabilities were stated by both popes?

Date: 2009/10/16 09:49:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The sadest thing here is: I am probably the less educated participant here. I didn't even finish the GED level (never tried the GED, but I know what it's about). And yet, I can grasp basic concepts better than Yodel Elf. AND I don't pretend to know more than people that have been working in the field for years.

Sad state of affairs, when YEC's try to teach science to scientists...

Date: 2009/10/16 10:09:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
this is a zstrong blow to Biology, Life studies, Medicine and all else derived.


Do the world a favor and live without the "lies" that evolution provided regarding viruses, bacterias, anti-bodies resistant forms, and all.

Oh, You are not allowed to drive cars, use computers, or even breath, from your point of view...

Date: 2009/10/16 10:12:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 16 2009,17:07)
Quote
Sad state of affairs, when YEC's try to teach science to scientists...

Not trying to teach science to scientists.  But am trying to call people's attention to some pertinent Bible verses and how biblical Christianity is not compatible with evolution.  Hoping they're willing to consider THOSE facts.

And don't you understand that some (most?) people here don't give a rat's ass about your bible? I will respect CM, nmgirl and others' beliefs, but all in all, for me, this is just crap!

Date: 2009/10/16 10:16:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
FACTS: Fairly Acurrate Commitment for The Stupid...

Date: 2009/10/16 10:18:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
BTW, I just fought, and annihilated a hicup burst.  Damn those Amphibians!



Edit: changed "fish" with "amphibians". hey, I'm no genius, I already said so!

Date: 2009/10/16 16:03:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote

You're done. Your parrot is still dead.



Obvious link for obvious reference:



Dead parrot

Date: 2009/10/16 16:34:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 16 2009,23:25)
 
"This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven."

Redundancy, a clear sign of hollyness...
Quote
And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Date: 2009/10/16 18:54:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote

Uh-oh, Floyd. Your ass is grass and baby Jesus is the lawn-mower.


Thanks Lou, added to sig...

Date: 2009/10/16 18:55:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Double post to counter page change bug, and show my new siggy again :)

Date: 2009/10/18 11:22:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (didymos @ Oct. 18 2009,01:59)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 17 2009,16:56)
Quote (didymos @ Oct. 17 2009,19:54)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Oct. 17 2009,16:49)
I think we have a loki troll.

Hadn't occurred to me, but now that you mention it...

It's so hard to tell anymore, though, because no matter how fucking insane you make the parody, it's still not as insane as the real deal.

Oddly, this applies to metal bands as well as creationists.

Hey!  :angry:

Date: 2009/10/19 04:13:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'd recommand he tries something easier to grasp at first:

Geology

Date: 2009/10/19 15:06:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Lou, that last one is beautiful!

BTW:

SLP said
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How do you think an editor would look upon you turning in a story in which had taken a quote from someone, lopped off half of it without indicating that you had done so, and presenting it to mean something that the author did not intend?


probably would give him a raise, when you see the sad state of modern journalism. is there a patern to Yodel Elf's thought process just there?

Date: 2009/10/19 15:34:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
WATERLOOOOOO!!!!

But Ogre is quite right. if you would just show some honesty, Yodel Elf, I for one would stop berate you and would be delighted to finaly see a debate.

And for that, you would only have to admit that your first assertion that evolution and christianism are incompatible is wrong.*



*no one's holding their breath so far...

Date: 2009/10/19 16:13:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 19 2009,23:00)
Quote
But Ogre is quite right. if you would just show some honesty, Yodel Elf, I for one would stop berate you and would be delighted to finaly see a debate.

The request is mutual, SD.  And can we be honest?  You did a sig line that mocked Christian belief, and there was no reason for you to go there.  I didnt' even call you on it, nor try to "preach" to you.  Great Referee Deadman was too silent and scared to call you on it.  His standards are double, I now believe.

I have worked to make sure at least a few of your posts were responded to also, and for a while there I even complimented you when you were acting like you were serious about providing a Christian clergy perspective---

---and you don't even have the cajones to acknowledge any of that now.

The main difference here is that I am not bound to what you think as "offensive" or "blasphemous". I could as easily accuse you of heresy or blasphemy because you didn't greet us every morning with "Jupiter Fulgor be upon you", or "shall the peace of Buddah guide your day".

Everything is in the eye of the beholder, and if you are offended by my treatment of your personal belief, you are more than welcome to go somewhere else. This is no kindergarden, and you shall only receive what you seek to give.

And giving props because i tried to get a clergy man into this mess is not debate. For my part, I will plead guilty for trying to harrass a poor man who probably already has much to do with his flock (by the way, no answer from the churche's secretary about an interview on such matters.)

Date: 2009/10/19 16:19:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And by the way, the priest could as easily answer "God's ways are mysterious ways indeed" to each and every single one of your BFFs.

Where would that put the debate?


You see, this is the problem with blind faith. When you don't understand something, you can always call out goddidit. This is where science beats religions hands down...

Date: 2009/10/19 17:07:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 19 2009,23:55)
I'll try asking you one more time, SLP.  I've already answered your post in honest detail (and you seem bent on ignoring that response, plus you didn't really answer the questions that I gave to you in that response previously.).

Anyway, here's your quote:
 
Quote
"Organic molecules evolved by natural selection, ultimately giving rise to life - possibly in the "warm little pond" that Darwin envisioned in his famous letter to Joseph Hooker (see chapter 3). "

Here is the actual sentence:

"In the oceans that then formed, both cometary and terrestrial (those synthesized directly in the environment) organic molecules evolved by natural selection, ultimately giving rise to life - possibly in the "warm little pond" that Darwin envisioned in his famous letter to Joseph Hooker (see chapter 3). "

Can you---are you ABLE to---show me where the "actual sentence" CONTRADICTS the shorter quotation in ANY manner?  Sincere question, but don't play games on this one SLP.  

I already admitted previously that the shorter sentence was stylistically incorrect.  (I also pointed out that I never used the stylistically incorrect shorter sentence in anything other than Internet discussion forums...  You did not acknowledge this.)

Now you need to get honest--yeah, you--and show me where I have incorrectly quoted Oro, even in light of the longer sentence that both you and I have sometimes quoted.

Show me that I took Oro out of context or quotemined him or something.   If you are unable to then you don't have much of a complaint, quite honestly.

Go ahead. show me.

Indulge me, just one moment there.

When the sentence is presented as:
Quote
Organic molecules evolved by natural selection, ultimately giving rise to life - possibly in the "warm little pond" that Darwin envisioned in his famous letter to Joseph Hooker (see chapter 3).
you are basically presenting a view that looks accepted and definitive.

But then when the sentence is presented as:
Quote
In the oceans that then formed, both cometary and terrestrial (those synthesized directly in the environment) organic molecules evolved by natural selection, ultimately giving rise to life - possibly in the "warm little pond" that Darwin envisioned in his famous letter to Joseph Hooker (see chapter 3).
you are presenting an opinion, an extrapolation, or a wild guess, even.

This is where scientific inquiery and knowledge come in. By taking off the first part of the sentence, it implies that the assertion is accepted as a given by Oro, and to a further extent from your mental rollercoaster, the whole scientific community.

As soon as you put back the full sentence in context, any person with an already existent knowledge of evolutionary science, will understand that this is a tentative argument, based on claims yet to be fully studied.

And again, the opinion of one doesn't make a theory...

Date: 2009/10/19 17:20:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 20 2009,00:18)
Ohhh please.  Why play with words?  You could refute me in one shot by simply saying what your hoenst core religious beliefs are.  If they match with biblical Christianity, (John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10, 1 Cor. 15:3-4), then voila!  You're a Christian and I would have to retract my statements.

Shoot, you could give the same kind of simple quickie statement that Nmgirl gave, and that would be sufficient to cause me to retract.  Shoot me down that fast.

But let us not lie, either one of us.  You know you ain't there.  Playing with words don't cut it.  If you could have, you would have done just like CM and royally announced that you are "the living refutation" of the thread topic simply because you were a professing Christian who also believes in evolution.  

You've had 54 pages to do just like Nmgirl, just like CM, just like the Pope.  And you ain't done it.  Because you CANNOT do it.  

At this point, I would testify in a court of law (even if I somehow got refuted and embarrassed later) that you ain't no Christian.  

Wanna disprove me?  Come outta your hidey-hole and say your core beliefs out loud, right here and now.  Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, if he's really down wit' the crew.  I say you ain't, and that you're scared to admit you ain't.  Shoot me down, disprove me, right now.

Wow! That's just so fuckin' relevant to the debate!

Date: 2009/10/20 13:09:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 20 2009,20:04)
Just random googling, no more than two minutes duration, under the label "evolution incompatible with Christianity".  Found this opening post on another discussion forum, a general one.
 
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What is/are your opinion(s) on evolution? The Catholic Church believes in it but they say that, somewhere along the line, God decided to give man a soul. That doesn't make sense to me? I'm not saying I don't believe in evolution (cause I do), I'm saying that evolution kind of contradicts God and Christianity a little, IMO.

People can tell, folks.  Ordinary people can tell.

Argumentum ad Google?


really?


Man, you've gone way beyond the limits of fucktardery!

First result when searching "evolution is compatible with christianity"

Professionals can tell, too!

Fucktard!

Date: 2009/10/20 15:50:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
That's the fifth incompatibility.  Your refutation, Amadan?


Almost anything in the OT, scumbag!

Date: 2009/10/21 04:53:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I think the problem here is that if Yodel Elf ever acknowledges the part evolution played (and continues to play) in the diversity of life, his whole litteral reading of the bible will fall appart. All his beliefs in genesis and the global flood will be compromised. He will then have to admit that these are all metaphorical and will have to do a bit of soul searching to find out what other parts of the bible are so.

that's way to much effort for his wee tinsy brain, which is a shame because his faith would be so much stronger and honest if he even tried to put his god-given brain at work.

As long as the maniac doesn't try to convince anyone he's right, it's all fine.

oh... wait...

Date: 2009/10/21 14:06:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 21 2009,20:43)
Quote
Non sequitor.

How can it possibly be a non-sequitor?  The immaterial human soul, and human ensoulment by God alone (NOT evolution), is NON-negotiable, according to Popes Benedict ,  JP2,  Pius,  and the rest.

No Catholic concessions (and no compatibilities either!) to evolution AT ALL on that one.

Oh, so now the popes' opinions matter?

Then there is no incompatibility between evolution and christianism.

Either that, or you have to retract your above-quoted statement right away. You can't have both, dumbfuck!

Date: 2009/10/21 14:14:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
First part of the debate is over, me think!

Yodel Elf just used JP2, Benedict and Pius' opinions to prove his point. therefore, he has to accept the popes' opinion that there is no incompatibility between evolution and christianism.

On to ID now, please...

Date: 2009/10/21 15:45:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Please do a search on "Lady Gaga" and tell me that humans have dignity.

:D   :D   :D

Date: 2009/10/21 15:53:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
after a heavy meal


Damn! You were one "T" away from rocking the place!

Date: 2009/10/21 16:22:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
here, Yodel Elf, meet one of your future play-friends:


(Hell, from the movie Constantine)

Because to be lying as you are, you are bound to end up in hell...

Date: 2009/10/21 17:20:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 22 2009,00:15)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 21 2009,18:08)
Shocking as it may seem, I think he's as real as Dave Hawkins, although (also shockingly) even dumber.

I guess that's the most puzzling aspect for me.  I never would have believed that AFDave's absurdity could be topped without intentionally doing so.

yeah, I think deadman deserves some kind of award for bringing this chew-toy in...

Date: 2009/10/22 04:48:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 22 2009,10:55)
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 21 2009,16:09)
   
Quote
So you regard Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals and the disabled as pests, Floyd?  Would you like to tell us more?

Sure, there's more.  The evolution-based racism found in Darwin's "Descent of Man" finds a clear and sobering echo in Hitler's Mein Kampf.

I would very much like you to tell us more about "The evolution-based racism found in Darwin's Descent of Man'", Floyd. In particular, I would very much like you to cite chapter and verse, throwing the harsh spotlight of truth upon the exact and specific passages in Descent of Man  in which Darwin expressed racist ideas. Fortunately, pretty much everything Darwin ever wrote, Descent of Man included, is freely available online, which means it will be quite easy for anybody who might doubt your veracity to confirm that your chapter-and-verse citations of Darwin's words are accurate quotes which do no violence to Darwin's ideas. So go for it, Floyd! You'll have exposed the hated Darwin, and put the lie to those benighted souls who are so misguided that they have accused you of deceitful behavior like quote-mining! It's a win-win situation for you!

I would be much interested to see that.

Although, let's face it, Yodel Elf has never even opened any of Darwin's (or any scientific) book in his sad life. He's only regurgitating whatever stupidity he's read on some creotard forum or other.

Date: 2009/10/22 07:38:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FrankH @ Oct. 22 2009,14:16)
Floyd,


It's like this.  Your credibility is in tatters.  The only thing you've shown that you're able to do is regurgipost from other sources.  Your claims:

1:  You can't be a Christian and think Evolution is right.
Survey says:  Wrong.  You admit that the RCC is a Christian Church and that the Pope is a Christian.  The RCC accepts Evolution for the physical body of humans.

2:  You then change your tactics to say Evolution is not accepted by the RCC when Evolution tries to explain how the human "soul" or "spirit" was materialistically formed.
Survey says:  There is no evidence that a "soul" or "spirit" even exists.  As Geology doesn't show land at the North Pole for Santa's workshop, an electron microscope show us how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or satellites show the Norse Gods fighting the Giants making the Auroras in the northern sky does that make them wrong too?  After all everyone knows Santa is real.  Can you show us any evidence for a soul or spirit?  You know, as your religion doesn't mention chakras, it must be wrong in other people's eyes don't you?  Last thing, can you show us those "Evolutionary Theories" which mention how a soul or spirit evolves?

3:  You equate biology needs to be guided by your god and that this god of yours was needed to make the chemicals needed for life.
Survey says:  Yet when you emphatically declare that your god was needed to make water, your god is not needed to make water run down a hill.  Why not?

4:  You claim your god is a loving caring god.
Survey says:  Your own god's book shows it to be a moody, schizo, monstrous and petulant child who kills whole populations, even newborns and I dare say babies in their mother's womb because it's pissed.  It also got mad because despite it being omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, it left two beings who didn't know anything including that disobeying was bad (how could they) and this god of your "went away" leaving the gates open for the creature of pure evil into the garden and tell the two innocents to do something they were told not to.  When they did do it, this omnipotent being had to ask them what happened and said they let evil into the world!  That's like a parent, leaving the toddlers home alone, front door open for anything to "crawl in" and a loaded gun on the kitchen table and then that parent has the audacity to blame the kids for letting in outsiders and touching the gun!

5:  You claim Evolution leads to hate, antisemitism, evil men, eugenics and a host of other evils.
Survey says:  Racial hatred, antisemitism, war and more were around long before Darwin's theories.  Even eugenics, under a different name of course, was around long before Darwin.  Of course "undesirables" usually meant "people of another faith".  Those who did eugenics were evil people hiding under a veneer of science while they practiced their hatred on others.  Can you show us where Evolution says anything about eugenics makes a species stronger?

6:  You claim Darwin was a racist and it is for all to see in "Descent of Man".
Survey says:  Wrong.  You yourself can't show us where Darwin says anything like that.  I can show you Christian Churches and their adherents who wrote extensively on how the "lesser races" needed to be enslaved.  Care to show us anything in Evolution that says that?  Can you even show us where Darwin was a racist?

7:  Your 5 points.
Survey says:  Your 5 points are trash.  They've been debunked, blown away, shown for the hot air they are.  The only reason they are brought back out of the grave is you keep digging them up.  But like all corpses, when you let go of them and yell, "Charge", they fall back into the hole.


Face it Floyd, you're out of your depth in a puddle.

POTW? Pretty please?

That was damn brilliant!

Date: 2009/10/22 16:57:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I just finished Sir Terry Pratchett's last offering: Unseen Academicals.

I'll give it a 4.5/5

While the main plot is about football (soccer for you Yankees), 60% of the novel is about very funny and interesting sub-plots, which Sir Pterry handles, as always, masterly. Anhk-Morpork is evolving, and with it the usual cast of all time favorites. And for the first time, Vetinary gets drunk!

A must read!

Date: 2009/10/22 18:32:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (silverspoon @ Oct. 23 2009,00:58)
Let's at least make the Beelzebub imagery pleasurable for Floyd.


Ahhhhhhhh. Liz Hurley in Bedazzled! Instant downward bloodflow!

Date: 2009/10/23 05:33:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FrankH @ Oct. 23 2009,11:55)
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 22 2009,22:56)
Only if he can ever grok the difference between "is the ultimate cause of" and "is the explanation of".

Unless I missed something, Genesis declares that God is the cause.

It doesn't say that there isn't/aren't other explanations for the details.

Henry

But that's the problem for someone who is a literalist.  Their whole reason for being is they believe they know their God's mind and how one should live, vote, act, feel, etc to get saved.  How a finite and imperfect being can actually "know" a supposedly infinite and perfect being is beyond me.  Personally, I think that is the height of arrogance and hubris.

But I haven't met a "witnessing" evangelical who thinks I need to save my soul be anything but a egotistical asshole who just knows they are absolutely better than you.

And thus, once again, we confirm Yodel Elf is gonna be toastin' in hell.

The only thing that sucks is that he will permanently anoy all those great men that are already there (Gandhi, Einstein...).

I'm starting to wonder if hell might just become that little bit worst with him around.

Date: 2009/10/23 06:54:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I just got blown away by the Lawrence Krauss lecture at AAI 2009!

Excellent cosmology right there!

Date: 2009/10/23 11:46:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Robin @ Oct. 23 2009,16:59)
I found the guide to creationist debate tactics:

http://www.heterodoxy.com/society....ed.html

Interesting stuff.  :p

Ok, now, that's scary. Was it written in the last 12 hours based on this thread and Yodel Elf's "arguments"? I'm really tempted to copy/past it here and start to single out all matching strategies with our mentaly challenged friend...

EDIT:
Quote
SM is compatible with Christianity


I just knew it! all this stuff about whipes...

Date: 2009/10/23 15:31:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Rrr @ Oct. 23 2009,21:55)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 23 2009,06:54)
I just got blown away by the Lawrence Krauss lecture at AAI 2009!

Excellent cosmology right there!

Thanks for the link, SD! Awesome stuff indeed.

welcome. No wonder he's friends with Richard Dawkins. Another brilliant spokesperson for science. I like his way of explaining complex concepts with such ease...

Date: 2009/10/23 16:01:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Your sin is Pride.


Ooooohhh. One of the deadly se7en.

Yodel Elf's gonna fry!

Date: 2009/10/23 18:03:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Prozelytising. You know, Yodel Elf, there are countries where this is illegal.

Well, as for me, I will get down with the mask of (relative) politness. I would like to apologize in advance to CM, Wes and all other believers here.

Religion is a matter of faith, and faith alone. For a stupid joke like Yodel Elf to clamour to the four winds that the bible is truth is like a panda pissing in a violin! I could as easily hold that Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" is pure truth, because that makes sense to me. Yodel Elf, no one cares about your own personal perception of the bible, demented and lies-ridden as it is (your perception).

Science, on the other hand, is based on empirical evidence, testable, falsifiable, repeatable concepts. I will not, nor I think will anybody else in here or in the scientific community, let centuries of scientific knowledge and advancement be relegated to middle age supperstitions just because it  hurts your feelings.

If you think the ToE is a scam, then you will have to believe that all the other fields of science are a scam, thus leaving you no other choice than to turn off your computer, throw it away as well as your TV, cell phone, home phone, microwave...

Once again, you are attacking the ToE solely because your brain can't even fathom the fact that humans are no different in biology (and don't quotemine on that, everybody but you understands what i mean) than any other members of the animalia kingdom. Why don't you also attack those mean climatologists? Or paleobotanists?

Because you are a god-awful, lying-for-jebus joke!

Date: 2009/10/24 00:45:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 24 2009,01:34)
Quote
Yodel Elf, no one cares about your own personal perception of the bible, demented and lies-ridden as it is (your perception).

Then, ummm, why was I asked about my personal perception of the Bible?

And btw, does it make sense to you to accuse folks of "proselytizing" when they've just been sincerely asked religious point-blank questions like "Do you or do you not think you know what your god requires as to get into heaven or not?"

You see, SD, you need to take a moment and think about what you're saying there.  Me?  I'm sincerely responding to somebody else's sincere "Do you or don't you" questions.  

But you?  Those answers must be bugging you for some reason, even though they weren't even addressed to you at all.  

So now here YOU come outta the blue, all suddenly agitated and hand-wringing about "proselytizing."  

What is it?  YOUR conscience suddenly gittin' all itchy too?  Voice messages still beeping on your soul's cell phone and you cain't find a way to delete 'em???  Is that it, boys????

(Ohhhh goodness to booboo.  You guys are starting to make me laugh now, not in any vicious or demeaning way, but your anger and squirming discomfort in the presence of Scriptural truths--which you yourselves keep on bringing up, NOT me!--just comes across as kinda humorous sometimes.  

Ultimately, you guys necessarily constitute my final evidence that Evolution is Incompatible with Christianity!!!!   :)  

Poor creature, damned to the eternal flames.

I'm stating facts, and yet here you are again trying to analyse me and sell me your idiocratic doctrine.

As was said countless times before, there's a street-corner somewhere missing its preacher.

In the wise words of Slayer:

Yodel Elf

Date: 2009/10/24 08:38:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Oct. 24 2009,14:16)
Mr Lee,

in the beginning, I only silently disapproved of some harsh words because as a guest ("lurker") I did not wish to criticize the hosts. Later on, I realized that the abuses were deserved.
I might even add abuse myself: You behave like a rooster prancing about and claiming to be king of the chicken run when you are the only chicken around.



great art, Kattarina, and spot on.

As an aside, Yodel Elf's rantings remind me a lot the sermon of Reverant Brown in the clearing as depicted in "Inherit the Wind". It's trully a mirror image...

Date: 2009/10/25 08:34:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog

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Ok, not really useful to the debate, but I felt creative...

Date: 2009/10/25 18:32:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just a neat little summup on the dawn of religious beliefs I found while reading again Pratchett's, Stewart's and Cohen's "The science of Discworld". i'd just like to put it here so Floyd could maybe try to exercise his "brain" to the concept:

 
Quote
They didn’t know that Down Here was a pretty good
place for creatures like them to live. There was air to
breathe, animals and plants to eat, water to drink, land
to stand on, and caves to get out of the rain and the
lions. They did know that it was changeable, chaotic,
unpredictable ...
They didn’t know that Up There - the rest of the
universe - isn’t like that. Most of it is empty space, a
vacuum. You can’t breathe vacuum. Most of what isn’t
vacuum is huge balls of overheated plasma. You can’t
stand on a ball of flame. And most of what isn’t vacuum
and isn’t burning is lifeless rock. You can’t eat rock.
They were going to learn this later on. What they did
know was that Up There was, in human timescales,
calm, ordered, regular. And predictable,too - you
could set your stone circle by it.
All this gave rise to a general feeling that Up There was
different
from Down Here for a reason. Down Here
was clearly designed for us. Equally clearly, Up There
wasn’t. Therefore it must be designed for somebody
else. And the new humanity was already speculating
about some suitable tenants, and had been ever since
they’d hidden in the caves from the thunder. The gods!
They were Up There, looking Down! And they were
clearly in charge, because humanity certainly wasn’t.
As a bonus, that explained all of the things Down Here
that were a lot more complicated than anything visible
Up There, like thunderstorms and earthquakes and bees.
Those were under the control of the gods.
It was a neat package. It made us feel important. It
certainly made the priests important. And since priests
were the sort of people
who could have your tongue
torn out or banish you into Lion Country for
disagreeing with them, it rapidly became an
enormously
popular theory, if only because those who
had other ones either couldn’t speak or were up a tree
somewhere.



And of course, the best part:

Quote
And yet ... every so often some lunatic with no sense of
self-preservation was born who found the whole story
unsatisfying, and risked the wrath of the priesthood to
say so. Such folk were already around by the time of the
Babylonians, whose civilization flourished between and
around the Tigris and Euphrates rivers from 4000 BC to
300 BC. The Babylonians - a term that covers a whole
slew of semi-independent peoples living in separate
cities such as Babylon, Ur, Nippur, Uruk, Lagash, and
so on - certainly worshipped the gods like everyone
else. One of their stories about gods is the basis of the
Biblical tale of Noah and his ark, for instance. But they
also took a keen interest in what those lights in the sky
did. They knew that the Moon was round - a sphere
rather than a flat disc. They probably knew that the
Earth was round, too, because it cast a rounded shadow
on the Moon during lunar eclipses. They knew that the
year was about 365 1/4 days long. They even knew
about the ’precession
of the equinoxes’, a cyclic
variation that completes one cycle every 26,000 years.
They made these discoveries by keeping careful records
of how the Moon and the planets moved across the sky.
Babylonian astronomical records from 500 BC survive
to this day.
From such beginnings, an alternative explanation of the
universe came into being. It didn’t involve gods, at least
directly, so it didn’t find much favour with the priestly
class. Some of their descendants are still trying to stamp
it out, even today. The traditional priesthoods
(whothen and now often included some very intelligent
people) eventually worked out an accommodation with
this godless way of thinking, but it’s still not popular
with postmodernists, creationists, tabloid astrologers
and others who prefer the answers you can make up for
yourself at home.

Date: 2009/10/26 08:10:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'll raise one for another sadly fallen sockpupett, Quack!

As for their "team", bring it on! That would be just great. *imagines the tardmy against the evilusionists. Hell maybe even FTK will be back!*

Date: 2009/10/26 13:07:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok. And what about the Power Rangers? I mean, how would you classify them?







Sorry, I'm out.

Date: 2009/10/26 15:55:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
At last, Stein has finally found a worthwhile cause!

Date: 2009/10/26 16:46:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yodel Elf, Mrs Ganush is coming to get you!

Date: 2009/10/27 01:23:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Habby purthday!!!

Date: 2009/10/27 07:45:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Keelyn @ Oct. 27 2009,13:21)
Let's see. A summary update - in 71 pages, Floyd has managed to (fill in the blank)

I was going to change "managed" to "failed", but then I realized it would be to long to fill in...

Date: 2009/10/28 16:49:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OMToE!!!

Now, Yodel Elf is actually misquoting the buybull? Damn, there's a pitchfork and BBQ put aside for him all right!

YE: your ass is gonna burn!

Date: 2009/10/31 12:35:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Tinfoil hats for sale! Tinfoil hats for sale!!!



Yodel, could I help you to some tinfoil hat?

Date: 2009/11/11 04:43:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Louis and Wilken!

On this joyfull occasion you both get a free tard-mining set complete with rare FL detector and enhanced FTK pockets exploding rod. Use it wisely!

Date: 2009/11/11 16:01:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Get well Afarensis!

Date: 2009/11/12 03:20:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wow! That's prime-choice tard. Highly entertaining...

Date: 2009/11/12 04:46:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I say your side in origin issues doesn't test hypothesis because they can't.
We were here first with our conclusions on origins and we have the freedom and law to back us up. even if at the moment incomptent judges are frustrating things. Stay tuned folks.


Nope, pagans were here before you, and before them animists, and before them cavemen who believed in the Great Mother, and before them, who knows...

You are just the result of a almost 2000 years-old social experiment. In this experiment you will mostly find three types of people:

1) people in search of spirituality who find answers and guidance in some holy writings.

2) idiots who will follow whatever their priests tell them.

3) smart, power-hungry maniacs who will bank on above-mentioned idiots to achieve their political and financial goals.

You are a number 2, and no mistake...

Date: 2009/11/12 10:45:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 12 2009,15:42)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 12 2009,10:19)

Please disappear, you have yet to make sense, you are just wasting our time. How old are you? Why is that a secret? Have you got anything to show that you are not just grossly ignorant?

um quack please don't run him off.  i need my daily dose of FSTDT without actually going there.

I think that you can't really tell the difference between Bubba, a bot, and a english as third language born again missionary.  that is entertaining, but you don't have to take it seriously. for all reasonable purposes it is a bot.

ditto

Date: 2009/11/14 17:16:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
J-Dog, have you considered TNT? It works with the panda invasion in my backyard...

What? Did I say that out loud?

Date: 2009/11/14 17:48:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Nov. 14 2009,23:28)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 14 2009,17:16)
J-Dog, have you considered TNT? It works with the panda invasion in my backyard...

What? Did I say that out loud?

Since Pandas are found in China and you live in France, I'd like to advance the alternate explanation that the black and white creatures infesting your lawn were actually mimes.



Lucky for you it is mime season.  No size or catch limits either.

Ok, stands to reason. Mime extermination is a matter of general interest. I feel a lot better now.

I hate mimes...

Date: 2009/11/15 01:13:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (jswilkins @ Nov. 15 2009,01:30)
"It was said he [Vetinari] would tolerate absolutely anything apart from anything that threatened the city[1]...

1. And mime artists. It was a strange aversion, but there you are. Anyone in baggy trousers and a white face who tried to ply their art anywhere within Ankh's crumbling walls would very quickly find themselves in a scorpion pit, on one wall of which was painted the words: Learn The Words."

Terry Pratchett, Guards, Guards, p78

Yep, one of the many reasons why Lord Vetinari is so amesome!

Try Unseen Academicals for a rare bout of drunk Vetinari

Date: 2009/11/16 09:59:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (afarensis @ Nov. 16 2009,15:24)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 16 2009,08:58)
WELCOME BACK SASANFRANCIS.

Thanks! Not ready for the hard stuff yet...

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!





Welcome back, Afarensis! We missed you (but we have time to reload)...

Date: 2009/11/16 10:03:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 16 2009,15:29)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Nov. 16 2009,09:16)
I can't post a link because it has disappeared from the intertubes. But my personal highlight might be the discovery that Behe had inadvertently left comments enabled on one of his Amazon blog posts. I posted the first comment, asking about Abbie's points re Vpu and new functions of mutated proteins, and the floodgates opened. That thread attracted Joe G for a while, but he gave up after a sound flogging on his notion that "design=mechanism".

Other highlights might be showing FtK that her understanding of anti-freeze and globin genes in icefish was a tad flawed, but I'm too lazy to find that thread right now. And it's really too easy to flog FtK (bless her heart) on biology, so it probably isn't something to brag about.

Sorry, I have to disagree.  Flogging FTK was fun, and her flouncing and flirting made it even better.   She was as clueless as Palin, though maybe a little bit better than Palin at communicating her crazy ideas.  So, all in all, flogging people like Palin and FTK is a very good thing.

Per Chris Farley Character:  Hey, remember that time she showed up at one of your lectures?  That was awesome...

Funny you should say that. During the looonng thread, i always envisioned FtK as a blond Palin (Sarah, not Mickael. Mickael is almost God in my book)...

Date: 2009/11/16 13:00:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (ppb @ Nov. 16 2009,18:35)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 16 2009,11:03)
Funny you should say that. During the looonng thread, i always envisioned FtK as a blond Palin (Sarah, not Mickael. Mickael is almost God in my book)...


oooohhh!!! You evil you!!!


I LoLed a lot, though...

Date: 2009/11/16 14:49:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sources please!

I know i might be a bit demanding, but it's not as if anybody expects the......




Yep, Spanish inquisition...

Date: 2009/11/16 15:25:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, the "Complete BA77 post fits here" and "Elsberry banned at ATBC" got me regurgitating red wine off of my nose...

Date: 2009/11/16 16:37:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
First: looks really cold!

Second: can you give us details? As a european, I'm not so familiar with "foreign" species :)

Third: Gorgeous pics! The light is magnificent!

Thanks for sharing, Lou!



ETA: birds bore me as a whole (sorry Dave). Brainless dinos that never took a hint about staying raptors!

ETAA: Ok, I'm definitely done for! Thought the foam was ice. Still, could look cold with a spectrometer...

Date: 2009/11/17 03:50:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
did anybody see the pilot episode of House MD season 6? The character Hal is a perfect lookalike of Dr. Dr.² Dembski, all the way to the glasses and the haircut. Uncanny!

Since the character is in a psychiatric ward, the only conclusion is that the show's writers got their inspiration from (Dr. Dr.)² Dembski...

I will make a screenshot...

Date: 2009/11/17 11:25:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 17 2009,17:22)
<singsong>

I just got a Ray Comfort book

nanna nanna boo boo

Oh. Sorry to hear that  :(

Date: 2009/11/18 15:57:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 18 2009,21:53)
Quote (Robert Byers @ Nov. 18 2009,04:41)
Its only a special case where i am related to my father. This just because of no important changes occured.

um...

idiot.

Well, inbreeding could explain high ressemblance and impaired brain functions...

Date: 2009/11/19 11:37:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Mr Heddle!

Date: 2009/11/20 06:54:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I just clicked on the link.

Lou, nice touch using Lilith as the girls' avatars :)

Date: 2009/11/20 10:13:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Then you breed a Tasmanian wolf (or are they extinct?  I forget) with a grey wolf and see what happens.


Thylacine is sadly exctinct, yes. There are still tasmanian devils, though...

Date: 2009/11/20 18:28:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday! Don't overdo it...

Date: 2009/11/22 14:56:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire, Carlson!!!

And don't drink the water:



BTW, how old are you in horse years?

Date: 2009/11/24 02:48:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Texas, the other 1930s Alabama.

At least, it will be a mercy when the state goes down the sink and is forced into cessession by the more "sane" states...

Date: 2009/11/24 03:09:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Found this in the comments od Dr. GH's link:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3164811&page=1

Seems like Oklahoma is the 1930s... Oklahoma...

Date: 2009/11/24 03:13:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 24 2009,09:07)
Robert, is it too much to ask that you try and learn at least some rudimentary genetics? You know, DNA and genetics are what makes reproduction possible. It works according to strict principles that cannot be violated if reproduction shall take place.

Corruption of DNA  - for whatever reason, leads to failure! Only slight changes are possible. That's the reason you find that of all the 6+ billion people on the planet, they are all human beings! Human, nothing else. And if we analyze the DNA of all those people, we see the same thing: Human DNA, showing clear relationship with all other humans.

A human will never give birth to anything but a human.

People like you used to deny Earth orbiting the Sun - the church even almost killed Galileo for telling the truth. The fact is, you and people like you deny everything that doesn't fit your religion. You simply deny the facts. An yet, all it would take to verify the truth of Galileo's discovery was to look into his telescope.

In the same manner, you refuse to learn the basic facts.

Yeah, right. Go and tell that to his sixth thumb and his monolobal© "brain"...

Quack, I admire your efforts to try and educate this fool, but I think it's a lost cause. Say something nasty about the bible instead, it will be more entertaining to watch his "brain" explode :)

Date: 2009/11/24 07:58:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
The Proof that God exists is that without Him you couldn't prove anything.


priceless!  :D

Date: 2009/11/25 23:53:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Stephen Meyer shares the TARD with the masses.


Wow! There's a shitload of T.A.R.D in the comments! But with all due recognition, it was a T.A.R.D article to start with...

Date: 2009/11/26 07:00:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quack, let's get down to business here and adress what really interest Boobah:

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com

Let him brainfuck himself until explosion. the world doesn't need this brand of tard...

Date: 2009/11/30 12:30:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 30 2009,16:47)
Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 24 2009,08:28)
This is a snippet of one of his responses:

 
Quote
The existence of God is not based on 'circumstantial evidence.' It is actually because God exists that anyone can call ANYTHING 'evidence.' God is the necessary precondition for the proof or evidence of anything as both presuppose the existence of universal, abstract, invariant laws, which cannot be accounted for outside of God, and are accounted for with God. You see Lisa, the very fact that you say that the site "really doesn't prove anything,' shows a precommitment to the very concept of proof which YOU cannot account for without God.

As far as you saying that it is "obvious to everyone" why I created the site, or basically, "It's true, because we all say it's true," I hope that's not your best argument, cause it that is a logical fallacy of "argumentum ad populum."

Sure lot'sof people say that "a god" exists, but it is usually not God at all, but an idol of their own making, so that they do not have to submit to the one true God of Christianity.


There...so, you can stop doing all the "sciencey" stuff.

But if God neccesary for water to exist, then why isn't he required for water to flow downhill?!?!?

You, sir, would have for this very question to engage the "gentleman" known as Erasmus. If all else fails, you can still adress your demands to Yodel Elf inc., although every and all courriers sent there never made it back...

Date: 2009/12/02 06:52:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
lol! that sci-fi part in the transcript is hilarious (from your answer to Dr. GH's comment)!

BTW, great job so far Wes. Let's see what David has to say. but if he doesn't understand your points, then he definitely has a problem with reading comprehension...

Date: 2009/12/08 01:58:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (rhmc @ Dec. 08 2009,03:38)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 07 2009,16:50)
ETA: Anyone added this to FSTDT yet?

thanks for the link.  :)

WOW! I feel dizzy now...

Date: 2009/12/08 06:21:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Richard Dawkins' lecture about "The greatest show on earth" on Fora.tv. The lecture itself is verbatim to the one he did at AAI 2009, but there is a very interesting extended Q & A (more than 30 minutes). Added bonus: it is chaptered!

Lecture

Date: 2009/12/08 15:58:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 08 2009,21:39)
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 23 2009,10:34)
   
Quote (Ptaylor @ Oct. 23 2009,02:05)
I may be late to the party on this one, but I have noticed there is no mention of Expelled on Stein's site's filmography page any more, and no direct mention anywhere else on the site that I can find. Has Ben expelled Expelled?
(Or is this old news?)

Jeez... I hate like hell to stick up for Stein, but your link says it was last updated in 2/07... before the release of the Blockbuster Smash Christian Church Basement Hit, Expelled.

"Expelled" is in our local Superstore bargain bin for CDN$5.99 (that's about 30 cents US), next to "Blood Diamond" and "Burning Yule Log 2 Hour CD".

Somebody here saw it for 2.99...

BTW, Blood Diamond is good.

Date: 2009/12/09 18:22:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 09 2009,22:18)
Dark Matter?

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs....er.html

Well, Sir Terry Pratchett tells us that dark matter is actually the paperwork of the universe, accounting for the position of any atom at anytime. Makes sense...

Also, Lawrence Krauss has nice things to say about dark matter in his AAI 2009 lecture (to be found on Richard Dawkin's youtube channel).

Date: 2009/12/10 15:33:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
evolution can't produce new 'zibbleblorf's.


Hey! I'm still working on that!

Date: 2009/12/10 18:56:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
That last picture is awesome!!!

Date: 2009/12/11 03:39:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
o_O

<3

Date: 2009/12/13 00:52:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog

Date: 2010/01/18 01:18:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[delurking from UK vacations]

Welcome back Dave!

[relurking to UK vacations]


ps: Louis, beer offer still standing...

Date: 2010/01/23 03:20:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks all, and happy birthday Wes!

I'm leaving in two hours for Stonehenge, which will be nice 'cause it's quite foggy today.

Oh, and me girl promised me a "special" present :p

I'll post the pictures*




*Of Stonehenge, you pervs!

Date: 2010/01/25 04:29:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, as promised, some pics of me and my girl Alicja at Stonehenge. It's a bit less impressive than I expected, and due to the actual fences forbiding access to the stones the "mystic" is quite downplayed. Oh, and 6.60 pounds just to get there!











All in all, it was a nice birthday. And yesterday we went to Brighton. Lovely!

Date: 2010/01/28 16:08:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OT: Tomorrow I'm going to the Oxford University Museum. I'll post some pictures... :)

Date: 2010/01/29 02:39:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 28 2010,23:12)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 28 2010,16:08)
OT: Tomorrow I'm going to the Oxford University Museum. I'll post some pictures... :)

I think they frown on that sort of thing.  It tends to obscure the exhibits.

Well, I'll post pics of the outside walls then :)

Date: 2010/02/05 16:05:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 05 2010,15:46)
Robert, since no thylacines are around for the experiment we'll have to rely on your expertise. Please let the world know:

Would mating a wolf with a thylacine have provided offspring? Would the offspring be marsupial, placental or something in between?

Since there are reasons also to call the thylacine a tiger, maybe
mating one with a tiger might also have been possible?

Rhoooo! You crafty, crafty man!

Can't wait for the outcome of this one :D

Date: 2010/02/05 19:50:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Option 1 seems fine by me...

Or option two...whatever....as long as getting drunk is involved....

Yeah, you know the drift...

Date: 2010/02/09 17:51:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hello Joy!

Would you accept Eru Illuvatar as your creator?

Or for that matter, Osyrhia?

please answer carefuly...

Date: 2010/02/11 07:20:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It's snowing in Nice right now, an event that last occured on this scale more than 10 years ago.

The weather is getting a bit looney, isn't it?

Date: 2010/02/11 07:34:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog










All taken from my flat...

Date: 2010/02/11 08:38:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Utunumsint @ Feb. 11 2010,14:29)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 10 2010,20:15)
No, I wasn't Lenny's pizza boy although I heard he was a good tipper.  At least that's what SHE said.

However regarding theology, it's all bullshit.  Seriously.  Total bullshit from stem to stern.  

Theology without beer is like sex without sheep to give you a hint.

There is no difference between the Bible and the book by Henderson about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  No difference, other than we know who wrote the FSM and we don't know who wrote the Bible.

Oh, philosophy is all bullshit, too.  I learned that, and got an A, from a course in philosophy.  The other thing I learned was that all philosophers are alcoholics but if played correctly will  buy you beer.

Hi Bill,

You shouldn't knock good theology. Its the application of reason to revealled truth. The more reason applied to revelation, the less Jihads and holy wars we will have.

The same thing goes for philosophy. Whether you like philosophy or not, applied philosophy is everywhere. It is at the root of politics, psychology, and law to name only a few instances.

I agree though. There are a lot of bad theologians and philosophers out there, but I would also say there is a lot of bad science out there as well.

Cheers,
Ut

Ohoh.

Am I allowed to say this? Then: OhOH!

Date: 2010/02/11 13:44:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It seems snow has finally fallen on Vancouver and affiliated snow parks...

Date: 2010/02/11 16:41:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 11 2010,22:22)
Quote (Utunumsint @ Feb. 11 2010,16:11)
Well it sure doesn't hurt.

So do you believe that faith and reason are incompatible or contradictory?

Cheers,
Ut

Except in cases where it DID hurt. Like creationism, heliocentrism, spiritual healing vs. medicine, etc. etc.

HARharrr!!!!!

THIS IS YOUR MOM!!!



Oups, sorry, Rich reflex...

Beside that whole point of making fun of Rich's mom*, it is now quite evident, I think, that Ut is an evil sock-puppet from beyond!

Let's have some fun and ask him about genesis!

Pwetty pwease?


*Always worth it, whatever the priest says!

Date: 2010/02/14 13:02:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (rhmc @ Feb. 14 2010,15:18)
rehab is for quitters

And Alaska...

Date: 2010/02/15 15:00:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would really suggest to read Pratchett's "The Science of Discworld" series.

My favorite is the first, dealing with abiogenesis and evolution, but the second (The Globe) is nice too. The third, "Darwin's Clock", I haven't read yet, but will do so very soon.

I have the whole Discworld series except Witches Abroad and TSOD Darwin's Clock. I intend to buy them in the next few months.

Is that relevant to methodological naturalism? No. But hey, I like to brag about my collection! :)

Date: 2010/02/17 10:38:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
My girlfriend just advised me to watch "Creation".

Anyone seen it?

Date: 2010/02/18 07:50:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 17 2010,21:05)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 17 2010,10:38)
My girlfriend just advised me to watch "Creation".

Anyone seen it?

44% on the tomatometer. No review from Roger Ebert, a big promoter of evolution.

I don't usualy thrust Rotten Tomato ratings, so I guess I'll just watch the movie and give my impressions :)

Date: 2010/02/18 10:05:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 18 2010,15:15)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 18 2010,07:50)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 17 2010,21:05)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 17 2010,10:38)
My girlfriend just advised me to watch "Creation".

Anyone seen it?

44% on the tomatometer. No review from Roger Ebert, a big promoter of evolution.

I don't usualy thrust Rotten Tomato ratings, so I guess I'll just watch the movie and give my impressions :)

I don't see movies based on the ratings, but I do read the reviews if I'm undecided. It's the best consolidator of reviews.

I tend to prefer IMDB :)

Date: 2010/02/18 14:29:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire Bob! May your ever-so-dying neurones rest in blissful peace!

Date: 2010/02/19 02:07:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey BWE! Welcome back, it's been a while.

For a fun thread these days, you can go poke Robert Byers on this one.

After that, it all depends on your tastes at the moment. Tard is pretty rich and diversified these days :)

Date: 2010/02/19 04:53:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I haven't followed on them lately, but I think there might be some stuff in the UD thread.

Also, Wes opened a new thread "YEC News" to gather all the latest tard from Ham and friends...

And boy, is Byers totaly bananas or what?

Date: 2010/02/20 14:22:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks for the Ebert link. It raises my interest in the movie.

Funny drawing I found somewhere on the web:

Date: 2010/03/08 15:32:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 07 2010,23:58)
In Italy, the news for the deaf doesn't use subtitles: they act it out for you.

XD

Just for fun:

Date: 2010/03/09 11:28:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ahhhhhh!!!

Mitochondria, Where Art Thou?

Date: 2010/03/09 15:29:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 09 2010,20:37)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 09 2010,11:58)
Moved from the UD thread, where it would be off topic.

 
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Mar. 09 2010,13:19)

Just like ID is not just naysaying of evolution (UD insists that it is so), nonwarming is not just the naysaying of climate science.  Surely Joseph would not make something up!  :O

On a marginally related note, I still laugh when I think about AFDave making up data as part of his argument and SteveStory making the TARD graph in response.  Does anyone have that permalink to that chart handy?  And where is AFDave these days?

Screw AFDave.  I wasn't around for that dude.  I'm more curious as to where Stevestory went.

And Robert Byers?

Hell!!! What about AFK? I almost* miss the mongrel

















*yep, almost, not "plain" miss. I'm not THAT deficient**!














**Or am I......?

Date: 2010/03/10 07:14:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would like everyone here to observe a minute's silence in memory of all the brave neurones that fell, victims of Bobby's unfathomable stupidity.

Hell, 10 bottles of Jamesson in a row would do less damage then this reading!

Date: 2010/03/12 06:46:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
To resume Bobby's position:

"hey, so much for global warming -- look at all this snow! and so much for global globalness, look how flat it is out there!" Stephen Colbert.

Date: 2010/03/12 12:10:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (didymos @ Mar. 12 2010,17:59)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 12 2010,09:46)
(Wonder where he thinks monotremes fit in all this?)

They're probably in the fucking "dog kind" too.

Yeah, probably the bloody egg-laying mo-fo "dog kind"!

And watch out for those thylacines, they are probably venimous as well!

But hey! All doggy so far!

Date: 2010/03/13 06:50:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire, Alan!

Et j'en profite pour complimenter ton avatar. Ahhhhh, Millau...

Date: 2010/03/14 15:09:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks Carlsonjok, these are gorgeous (I really like the prairie dog).

BTW, I've started reading "I Am America (and so can you)" an hour ago. Love it so far!

Date: 2010/03/15 02:23:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richard Simons @ Mar. 15 2010,01:29)
My wife and I are planning on visiting Florida in the second week of April but don't want to spend vast sums. We are interested in wildlife, especially birds, but not in city nightlife. We are currently looking at flying to Tampa then renting a car and driving to Fort Charlotte. Of course, we would like to get into the mangroves, but dashing across the swamps in a propellor-driven boat does not particularly appeal - we would like to be able to go more slowly and to hear things.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to where we should go and what we should do? Flying in to Orlando or Miami are other possibilities but getting to Miami is more expensive from here.

The tampa area is quite the spot if you want wildlife. I've spent 5 summers there (in St Petersburg), and any average bayou will allow you to see alligators, cranes, turtles...

And from tampa, you're not very far from Tarpon Spings, and most of all Clearwater Springs, which is an excellent place for scuba diving.

And for a nice camp-out, Fort deSoto is really cool (try throwing some rocks in the water at night, it will glow like fireworks!).

Hope this helps...

Date: 2010/03/15 15:51:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 15 2010,21:28)
At least some Canadians can think and do experiments.

Canadian teenager finds bacteria that degrade plastic bags.

I am genuinely impressed! The boy knows his science process all right!

(But the first word of the article was "WATERLOO". I expected something ID-related :))

Date: 2010/03/15 18:26:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I haven't had time to follow the French stuff lately. Did we fair well?

Date: 2010/03/15 19:09:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ Mar. 16 2010,01:07)
Page fault?

Definitly...

Date: 2010/03/16 09:01:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 16 2010,14:56)
cubist:  And Louis get's an A" - and I am sure Dr. Dr. D would agree.  See what he did there?  See the difference between what you wote, and what he wrote?

J-Dog: I must be stupid (or French), but I thought Cubist's initial response was quite okay.

Is there something I should know about Cubist?

Date: 2010/03/16 15:32:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 16 2010,21:08)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 16 2010,19:41)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 16 2010,04:01)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 15 2010,23:26)
I haven't had time to follow the French stuff lately. Did we fair well?

Since you only have a very underperforming England team to beat on Saturday, you lovely chaps are due a Grand Slam this weekend.

Marc Lievremont's experiments with players over the last year or so (which were pretty controversial because it's only very recently he's fielded a consistent team) seem to have paid off. I think the French team are going to be serious contenders for the world cup next year.

Louis

Perhaps an exhumation / resurrection of the Duke of Wellington is in order?  Wasn't Waterloo supposed to take of the French forever????

Waterloo was the second bash. We should have done it at Agincourt.

Luckily, I like the French and I have no problem . Not like the bloody Welsh. Close harmony singing, daffodil sporting, leek wielding, sheep bothering bastards.*

Louis

*All anti Welsh sentiment is purely for comedy purposes and will immediately cease post 6 Nations. No actual anti Welsh sentiment exists despite claims to the contrary. The Scots on the other hand: wankers to a man.

Quote

Waterloo was the second bash. We should have done it at Agincourt.


Been there, done that, bought the tapestry...(well, I've seen the reproduction in Reading, at least)

Anyroad, thanks for the update on the French team, Louis!*




*I will arrive in UK on March 24th. Beer offer still standing!

Date: 2010/03/16 15:34:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yeah, listen to Akbar!

Date: 2010/03/16 17:10:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 16 2010,22:53)
Anyone looking for a sig?

Joe G:
 
Quote
Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

I call dibs on that one!

Date: 2010/03/16 18:13:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 16 2010,23:57)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 16 2010,17:36)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 16 2010,16:53)
Anyone looking for a sig?

Joe G:
       
Quote
Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

My working theory is that Joe doesn't necessarily believe in ID/Creationism because of his extensive study of the subject.. He just believes the opposite of what you pointy-headed, librul, intamalekshuls believe.  

I am fairly certain that you could, in the space of one comment string get Joe to argue against A=B and, later on, to argue against A != B.  I'm just too lazy to attempt it.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have to try too hard, but I understand having better things to do.  Speaking of which, I'm off to have one of these

Pussy beer! I won't go for anything under 7.5°*





*except Guiness, but hey, whatcha gonna do?

Date: 2010/03/17 08:18:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 17 2010,13:14)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 17 2010,12:10)
 
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 17 2010,06:30)
Our opponents are merely ill mannered.

Yes, they certainly are. I can empathize with that!

When that comment gets us taken to court I want it known I was entirely innocent....for once.

Louis

When they strap you to the Chair, I'll be sure to let them know it was worth it!

Phil.


EDIT: Shouldn't we move this whole discussion to the BW? It feels like we're soiling Alan's BD post a bit...

Date: 2010/03/18 17:12:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I just watched "The Man From Earth". Average acting, bad photography, not so good direction, but a great movie, in the end.

It raises a lot of interesting points about science and religion. Almost worth watching with your eyes closed, just for the dialogues.

Last work of Jerome Bixby.





ps: is there a "movies and TV shows" thread already, or should someone open one?

Date: 2010/03/19 06:15:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 19 2010,11:35)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 19 2010,01:57)
If you've booked your Florida travel outside winter and spring break, yeah, that's a bit different.

Maybe a get-together could be set up for those of us who are residents here and our visiting friends.

Make sure Diane is around, in case a gator needs an attitude adjustment.

How's she doing, by the way?

The new Diane?

Date: 2010/03/22 04:47:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joyeux anniversaire Kristine, and many more shimmies!!!

Date: 2010/03/22 07:34:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 22 2010,11:18)
Que ton anniversaire t'apporte plein de choses que tu désires
et qui feront battre ton petit coeur de plaisir!

OT @ Schroedinger's Dog,

I just noticed your sig. Did Joe really write that down?

Yes, he did...

Quant on est con, on est con...

Date: 2010/03/27 15:32:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
A badger3k can never be buggered3k at all!

Or is it a hedgehog?

Joyeux anniversaire Badgee!

Date: 2010/03/30 09:12:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wolfhound @ Mar. 30 2010,13:50)
Couple of bitches.  Both are/were tremendous pains to their respective mothers. :)

Wow! Who's the hottie?

And where did that other one get her leather jacket?

:)

Date: 2010/04/01 14:44:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 01 2010,18:05)
From here, scientists discover gene (WTF1) and brain region (inferior supra-credulus) involved in gullibility!

Quote
When Morris studied individual neurons within the supra-credulus, he found that gullibility was associated with the activity of a single gene called WTF1. The less active it was, the more feckless people were.


Ok, if this is not a April's Fool, I don't know what it is.

WTF1 gene?

:D   :D   :D





ps: Dave, did I just kill your joke? if so, please accept apologies and virtual beers!

Date: 2010/04/04 20:04:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kristine @ April 04 2010,00:00)
Happy anniversadversary, we're nearing teh halfway point...

Larry visited. Everyone stay quiet and see if he just swims away without smelling blood... ;)


Kristine, two things:

First, that picture is AMAZING! Thanks for posting it! but it makes Farfarman look too nice, IMHO...

Second, I had my girl discover your blog, and I think she might be as jealous as I am about your Galapagos trip.

All in all, I should by right totally hate you, but instead I'm just thinking: shimmies!



ps: had to go back to France in a hurry :(

Date: 2010/04/06 15:48:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh Bobby my Bobby!

Please define Life.

What are the criterias that scientifically define Life?

Date: 2010/04/07 16:03:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I propose an experiment that Joe will enjoy. Joe bends over and jams objects up his arse and tells us if they are the same size. I propose the first two objects are a 1 kilogram block of osmium and a 1 kilogram black of splintery balsa wood. I'm guessing Joe will rapidly detect the differences in size.


I think I'd actually pay to see that!

Date: 2010/04/08 07:23:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Monica, Wes and Richard:

Shall I suggest John's Pass? Lovelly place, dolphins can be seen swimming in the pass at all time, there is a great restaurant on the south corner of the pass where they serve delicious gator nuggets. That would be a nice revenge for Ms Elsberry ;)

I haven't been there in 15 years, but this would be the place to go whenever I return to Florida!

Date: 2010/04/08 13:02:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richard Simons @ April 08 2010,15:10)
I will leave the choice to Wes and Monica, but it sounds interesting. Does alligator taste like crocodile? I had that once and, although it was eatable, I would rate it as different rather than delicious - but perhaps it was the way it was cooked.

We got to our hotel in Tampa at 2 a.m. after a delayed flight when a critical part of the aircraft failed (I believe it was the washroom light switch). First thing I saw when I looked out of the window this morning was a white ibis.

I've never tried crocodile, but alligator is quite close to chicken, although tastier and a bit more fillandrous (yet not tough). I enjoyed it a lot.

Quote
Ah!  I've been there, I believe!  There is the restaurant proper and dining outside, as well.  Our crew sat outdoors on the decking.  Unfortunately, the wind was howling off the river(drinks were served in plastic cups so a firm grip was needed) and there was some truly wretched karaoke going on but the food was very good.  I had a seafood chowder that was lovely.  Parking was a bear at the time but it   was a Friday night, after all.


There's a large parking on the north side of the pass. Quite busy on weekends.

I used to go bridge-jumping at John's pass with friends (higly illegal). We stopped when we heard from a policeman who had just arrested us that two kids died there doing the same...

I will always remember that exchange:

-Police Officer: "hand me your driver licences"
-Chris: "it's okay, we're too drunk to drive anyway"

We were 17...

Date: 2010/04/09 01:58:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 09 2010,03:06)
What's the name of the recommended restaurant at John's Pass? How many people might we expect to turn up if we go there? I can then check on whether it still exists and will take a reservation.

The restaurant is Gators Cafe and Salon

Treasure Island, FL 33706, United States

(727) 367-8951

Gators Cafe

Date: 2010/04/11 08:10:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Badger3k @ April 11 2010,08:23)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 11 2010,00:11)
H' B'Day

Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!

oooohh! A Ren and Stimpy fan! Be sure to rewatch the Gallapagos section :)

Joyeux anniversaire k.e!

Date: 2010/04/12 09:00:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
"Spot a pin and pick it up, and all day long your prick is up"

Well, at least that's how I remember the saying...

Joyeux anniversaire!!!

Date: 2010/04/13 00:26:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 13 2010,03:27)
Finally, spring has come to the Flint Hills of Kansas.


ooohhh! Morels! I love morels!

Date: 2010/04/14 07:01:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Nice! I hope you guys had a really good time! (Damn! I wish I could visit Florida more often. Next time, maybe...)

BTW, did you enjoy the place? Tried any of their delicious gator Nuggets? And the view?

:)

Date: 2010/04/15 15:49:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hello Yodel Elf! Long time no see...

The equation is very simple:

Science is defined by prediction, falsification,data, etc...

Thousands of scientists are working every day in labs to push further the actual knowledge about the origins of life. Every day, new datas are collected, dissected, cross-examined...

Sure, we don't have the final answer yet, but we're working on it. Maybe there will never be a final answer, but this doesn't mean that ID is right.

So, if scientists worldwide experiment on abiogenesis and such, wath are the ID guys doing?

Could you ever reproduce an "intelligent design" as it is understood in ID "theory" (scare quotes intended)?

Since you postulate that this "design" is somehow divine, I think you won't be able to.

And that's where ID fails as science. If you change the scientific method to accept ID, then you will have to accept a lot more that you maybe don't want to hear about.

What would be your reaction if in the end some "creation scientists" come out with better "theories" than yours and end up claiming all is according to the Norse mythology?

Would you accept it?

No.

This is why ID is not science and doesn't belong in science classes!

Anyway, what does abiogenesis have to do with ToE?



Sorry all, pushed a bit on the Guiness and Sicilian wine...

Date: 2010/04/16 04:29:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok guys, very funny, I'm laughing my ass off.

Now, who's the smartass who went and turned on that bloody volcano? I know it was one of you Church Burning Ebola Boys. Don't deny it!

I have to fly to the UK!

:(

Date: 2010/04/16 07:27:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
My opinion on it is that ID'ers are not merely trying to provide answers to question like someone, somewhere, did something...but are also attempting to show the stepping stones of how to get to those answers*.


Am I the only one to be slightly disturbed by this?  


*Emphasis mine

Edit: I may have had a problem in my reading and not understand exactly what is implied here, but to me it sounds like the usual "we want the outcome to be this, so let's find some ways to reach this conclusion". I might be wrong, though...

Date: 2010/04/16 14:51:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kristine @ April 16 2010,20:45)
Hmmm...what does anyone want to bet that our friend Ben is jockeying for someone's position in the Republican Party? A bottle of malt? A twinkie? A shimmy?

 
Quote
Conservative commentator Ben Stein's message for Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele is short and sweet: Resign.


Translation: I need a job! Besides, I'm cuter (and white)! ;)

In a way, I'm all for Stein to be head of the GOP.

If he can manage to put his audience to sleep as well as he does in any of his other ventures, there might me some hope yet...

Then again, I'm really in Favor of re-electing Lincoln...

Date: 2010/04/18 16:12:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ April 16 2010,23:16)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 16 2010,09:29)
Ok guys, very funny, I'm laughing my ass off.

Now, who's the smartass who went and turned on that bloody volcano? I know it was one of you Church Burning Ebola Boys. Don't deny it!

I have to fly to the UK!

:(

Stop being such a ponce and swim.

Louis

P.S. ;-)

Yeah, I almost thought about that. The problem is I'll probably have to walk to Calais first, since the SNCF ( the French railway company) is on strike. Would be too tired to swim...

On the really less funny news: I was at a party yesterday night, and now have a third-degree burn on half my chin from its base to my lower lipp, the lipp itself being burned from second to third degree. There's no pain, or sensation, which is not a good sign at all. Besides the risks of infection, it will probably leave an ugly (and big) scare.

All in all, I am devastated.

Date: 2010/04/18 16:33:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Rrr: fire-blowing gone wrong...

Date: 2010/04/18 18:03:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks for the lolcat, Carlson.

But before we get into the whole lolstuff, should I mention that it's impossible for me to move to a hospital on a sunday due to public transports laziness (and I don't have a car or driver's licence), so I won't be able to have my burns checked before tomorrow?

When I say devastated, I mean it :(

Date: 2010/04/26 09:38:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Although I think everyone is getting their hopes up a bit too much regarding Bj, I will propose this:

Ask him a single question, a relevant one that he won't escape, and wait for him to answer. Not n^5 questions, just one everyone agrees on.

Ignore whatever other drivell he's trying to insert here.

Then we'll all know if he's being honest or not...

Date: 2010/04/26 09:53:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (keiths @ April 26 2010,15:27)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 18 2010,16:03)
Thanks for the lolcat, Carlson.

But before we get into the whole lolstuff, should I mention that it's impossible for me to move to a hospital on a sunday due to public transports laziness (and I don't have a car or driver's licence), so I won't be able to have my burns checked before tomorrow?

When I say devastated, I mean it :(

Has anyone heard from Schroedinger's Dog?  I hope he's okay.

Hey Keiths!

Thanks for the concern. I've gone through a week of accute depression, self-loathing, and other assorted shit. The fact is, my burns are healing faster than expected, which means either the docs were wrong or I am some kind of a slow-motion superhero.

All in all, it's not all so bad right now. Since yesterday, I've been able to feed (with real appetite) and even enjoy a few hours of social meetings.

I think the worst is over now, and situation will get back to normal within a few weeks. Whenever I manage to transfer files from my cell phone, I will post a "gross" thread with almost day-to-day pics of the scaring.

Thanks for the messages of sympathy. Life sucks sometimes, but if I had to rely on a "designer" for whatever happens to me, I would never learn any lesson (eg: don't blow fire while drunk)...

Date: 2010/04/26 09:58:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
For the question, maybe a MP would be fine?

Cubist or Ogre, or Wes have had tremendous repies posted here. Maybe one of them should propose, and then everyone will follow?

Let's have one of the 3 main protagonists (sorry others, but this is just how it seems to me) decide what the question will be...

Date: 2010/04/26 10:08:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ April 26 2010,15:57)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,14:53)
[SNIP]

I've gone through a week of accute depression, self-loathing, and other assorted shit.

[SNIP]

I recommend drinking heavily.

Well, this is one of the things that helped me most.

To be clear: not being able to sleep at night because of recuring nightmares, night fevers, dark ideas and such is well beaten by a nice drop of Jameson before going to sleep.

This is the single worst experience in my lifetime so far. I've never been sick, or physicaly disabled before, and it plays hell on someone's body and mind. When you're 32, it somehow comes as a shock.

Anyway, it seems I won't be the next Elephant Man , even if my lip and chin  did look like a meat, onions and double cheese pizza at first...

Life is good! Don't waste it on invisible fairies...

Date: 2010/04/26 10:11:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 26 2010,16:05)
How about, "What is a Species?" With the recommended reading:
"What is a Species, and What is Not?" by Ernst Mayr.

I'm all for it!

Date: 2010/04/26 10:20:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2010,16:17)
Thoughts are with you chief. Listen, I'll even left you play on some of my "look don't touch" strats. Something to look forward to..

Dammit Rich!

I'm a keyboarder!

(although I know a few of my crew who would kill to play on a real 1970/80 US strat!)

Now, if you have a 1978 hammond, we can talk...

:)

Date: 2010/04/26 10:42:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2010,16:26)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,10:20)
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2010,16:17)
Thoughts are with you chief. Listen, I'll even left you play on some of my "look don't touch" strats. Something to look forward to..

Dammit Rich!

I'm a keyboarder!

(although I know a few of my crew who would kill to play on a real 1970/80 US strat!)

Now, if you have a 1978 hammond, we can talk...

:)

Sorry -
But Jerri is from '78:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y117292

Be well - this is clearly the experience that leads up to your mega-power-ballad-crossover-breakout- single.

Jerri is all fine and hot and whatsnot, but she's still a "piece of wood" for me (no offence meant).

Present me with a Bergolt Stuttley Jonhson MK3 Organ With Assorted Squashed Toads SFX, and I'll be as happy as the Bursar on dried frog pills.

Or anything by Roland (yeah, I know, not so favored, but the best accoustic sounds in the history of keyboards, for the XP series..)

Date: 2010/04/26 11:24:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,17:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Paul: don' push it!

Even me, a layman so down the scale I could be an
amoeba with a degree in geoplastics, can understand c14 and other radioactive means of dating..

Date: 2010/04/26 15:18:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,18:13)
Quote
(Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,11:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Because they prefer chocolate and flowers?

POTW?

I squirted [insert drink of choice here] through my [insert orifice of choice here]...

Date: 2010/04/26 16:28:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (didymos @ April 26 2010,21:44)
Quote (fnxtr @ April 26 2010,13:36)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 26 2010,13:18)
 
Quote (Henry J @ April 26 2010,18:13)
 
Quote
(Paul Flocken @ April 26 2010,11:12)
What is a species is good, but I would like him to explain in his own words why C14 dating is useless for dating dinosaurs.

Because they prefer chocolate and flowers?

POTW?

I squirted [insert drink of choice here] through my [insert orifice of choice here]...

saline solution / straws in my charred nasal passages.

Too soon?

Not too soon for me. Sorry, SD!

For me neither.

These few last posts made my day!

:D

Date: 2010/04/26 16:35:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
3. Power to score with other superheroes' wives


I want that one!*






*in the voice of Andy from Little Britain.

Date: 2010/05/03 04:44:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Alan Fox @ May 02 2010,18:06)
Tardif mais quand-même,

Bonne anniversaire!

Pareil!

Joyeux anniversaire à vous deux!

Date: 2010/05/21 06:01:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And as the Earth once again completes its trip around the sun, witnessed by the silent death of distant stars and the birth of new worlds, one of our own is probably getting insanely drunk, which is a good thing...

Joyeux anniversaire!




ps: I had hermagoras once, but me mom gave me an ointment.

Date: 2010/05/22 11:15:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ May 22 2010,16:20)
Quote (sledgehammer @ May 20 2010,22:08)
 
Quote
Nowhere in the vast field of engineering is there any such
thing as "the percentage of the time that corrupted data is
helpful instead of harmful."

It's ALWAYS harmful. Always. Copying errors and data
transmission errors never help the signal. They only hurt
it.


BZZZT! Wrong.
Random noise added to a signal before digitization by an Analog-to-Digital Converter actually improves the resolution of the resulting digital representation by "dithering" the quantization levels.
That's just engineering.  In physics, thermal noise can prevent a system from getting stuck in a local minimum (potential well) and significantly affect the outcome of a process by allowing it to sample a wider range of possible states.

That was news to me. Very interesting. I presume being relevant for physics, it is relevant for chemistry too - and maybe for genetics in ways not encouraging for creationists?
Just speculating.

It is also relevant in audio productions. Most studios now make their takes in 24 bits/48000hz, or more, then have to process everything down to 16 bits/24000hz for commercial audio cd production. In doing so, we usually run through a series of dithering/anti-dithering processes. this is most notably due to the fact that a modern production chain will quite often be numeric and yet start from a digital workbench.

The alteration of audio signals is not something I could detail with 100% expertise, but adding white noise before a frequency shrinking can actually smooth the conversion...

Date: 2010/05/23 01:49:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ May 23 2010,01:47)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 22 2010,09:15)
(snip)
It is also relevant in audio productions. Most studios now make their takes in 24 bits/48000hz, or more, then have to process everything down to 16 bits/24000hz for commercial audio cd production. In doing so, we usually run through a series of dithering/anti-dithering processes. this is most notably due to the fact that a modern production chain will quite often be numeric and yet start from a digital workbench.

The alteration of audio signals is not something I could detail with 100% expertise, but adding white noise before a frequency shrinking can actually smooth the conversion...

How are you on video, SD?
I was in Future Shop today browsing their screens/monitors/TVs/whatever the hell they're called these days.  "I, Robot" on 2 different screens: one looked like film; one had that 2D, videotape look, like daytime soaps. Any idea why?

also, I hope the healing is coming along with no complications.

I look gorgeous on video, thanks for asking.

The healing is going just fine, thanks. I'll only keep a slighlty redder area of skin, nothing a  beard-trimming can't hide...:)

As for the video stuff, new flatscreens can double the standard frequency from 60hz to 120hz, in order to give a "smoother" image and movement. But I can't for the life of me figure out why they would do this.

Personaly, I hate it and totally agree with you. Any movie you watch in 120hz looks like it's been filmed with a camcorder.

Date: 2010/05/23 02:06:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
No updates from me for a while; I'm heading to the Amazon (Manaus and upstream) tomorrow, and will be there for a couple of weeks.


You bastard!

Have lots of fun, bring back some pics, and watch out for poison arrow frogs!

Date: 2010/05/23 02:13:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Congrats Lou!

And good luck with the rest (although luck probably doesn't have much to do with your achievments)...

Date: 2010/05/23 12:54:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
My mom sent me this, and it somehow made me laugh...

Quote
In her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.


The following response is an open letter to Dr Laura Schlesinger penned by a US resident, which was posted on
the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative and not meant to be offensive.





Dear Dr. Laura:


Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's  Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.



When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of debate.



I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?


2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?


3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual un-cleanliness –

Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.


4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9.

The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?


5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?


6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?


7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?


8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?



9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?


10. My uncle has a farm. Heviolates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws?(Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.


Your adoring fan.
James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction,

and Special Education University of Virginia
(It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a Canadian :)

Date: 2010/05/24 04:45:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok, my appologies for the cap mistake.

won't Happen aGain, evER!

Date: 2010/05/24 10:41:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, Kristine will be moving to DC soon. This means there will be at least a 200% surge in honesty and morality* overall for the whole district...

Shimmies kristine!!!










*please abuse responsibly

Date: 2010/05/27 09:54:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Two molecules meet in in gas giant.

"Wow, it's pretty cramped in here!"

"OMG! A talking molecule!!!"

Date: 2010/05/27 12:28:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Rrr @ May 27 2010,18:20)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 27 2010,09:54)
Two molecules meet in in gas giant.

"Wow, it's pretty cramped in here!"

"OMG! A talking molecule!!!"

Great punchline! Is it original? Can I quote it? Never seen it before.

Well, the original is supposed to be two eggs in a frying pan. I just adapted it a bit.

Anyway, I think it is quite safe to reproduce*... :)






*cue Louis or Rich reaction...


EDIT: Rrr, if you were being sarcastic, please forgive me, I'm a damn foreigner...

Date: 2010/06/01 02:10:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Habby purthday Quack!

Date: 2010/06/04 06:18:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 04 2010,04:42)
Common ancestry popped up some months back. I'm not clever enough even to figure out what a creationist means by it.

Usually I can jigger my brain a bit and understand what they are saying, even if I think it's nuts.

I could try to guess on that one.

"Ancestry" is probably a more potent (read "revolting", "insulting") word to the creomass than "descent". "Ancestry" speaks directly to the heart of the biblically brainwashed, since a lot of the old testament is about lineage, ancestors and shit (well, it's not about shit*, this was just a figure of speech...or was it?).

When the average educated man talks about his ancestors, furry animals will eventually come up. But when a creotard talks about it, he will limit his "tree" to good ol' Jebedhia back in the ol' days of right after the flood.

"Ancestry" is definitely more potent when it comes to the mentally disfonctional mass.  

In other words, no religion so far...




*Anyone bringing up that stuff about lighting fires with human dung will be rewarded a one-night-stand (please; let it be kristine or ERV or Monica**...) :)

**Louis is out, as a matter of fact.

Date: 2010/06/05 13:38:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Robin @ June 04 2010,21:22)
[quote=Schroedinger's Dog,June 04 2010,06:18][/quote]
Quote


*Anyone bringing up that stuff about lighting fires with human dung will be rewarded a one-night-stand (please; let it be kristine or ERV or Monica**...) :)



Feh...amateur...

I'd give 'em at least a one-month-stand...probably several years of stands (and sits and even lie downs.)

:p

Touché, sir, touché!

Although there's a limit to what an adult woman can endure*







*Too far?

Date: 2010/06/05 15:19:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (ppb @ June 05 2010,14:36)
Oh great.  We're getting another visit from the Westboro Baptist Church tomorrow.  They will be picketing the local mega-evangelical church, apparently for not being sufficiently anti-gay.  They've "blessed" us with their presence before.

Well, as much as I hate WBC, as long as they attack other religious freaks I don't care much.

Phelps is more of a nuisance than an actual threat. All he wants is to get his followers assaulted so they can sue and get money.

Sure, they are annoying, but you can still look kindly on them, as someone would with a yet to be house trained puppy, or a mentaly disabled relative...

Date: 2010/06/06 05:39:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I am very "well-education".

Should correct that stuff on your page though, Walter...

Date: 2010/06/08 12:27:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ June 08 2010,03:34)
I've posted a bunch of pics from the Amazon here. Lots of birds, a few flowers and butterflies, and some scenery.

There must be a law against individuals who take pics such as yours!

Welcome back Dave!

Date: 2010/06/08 14:05:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Peter Henderson @ June 08 2010,19:51)
Anyone have a good way of getting rid of mice ?

The ones I have under my stairs are damned clever. I think they've evolved

Why getting rid of them?

Do you grow grain or something? Mice are damn cute, and pretty smart. Start an experiment in cognitivity instead...:)

Date: 2010/06/09 01:35:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Yes, mice are cute, but they leave that annoying black rice everywhere...


Think Coco Pops...

Date: 2010/06/09 05:56:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quite old news, but it seems science has mad a further small step towards abiogenesis. I find this colour of panspermia* theory quite attractive.



*Well, not exactly panspermia, but this type of "contamination" is definitely an interesting thought...

Date: 2010/06/09 15:06:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Saw that happen in a large church.


See? There's always a positive side to every story!

Date: 2010/06/12 12:46:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
You should check the John Oliver segment of yesterday's Daily Show...

EDIT: linky

And France will suck, as always!

Date: 2010/06/12 16:11:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ June 12 2010,22:06)
Quote (tsig @ June 12 2010,22:05)
Quote (someotherguy @ June 12 2010,12:42)
USA vs. England is set to start in less than hour.  To all of you Anglo-Saxons out there, allow me, an up-jumped Yankee colonist, to apologize for the brutal, humiliating defeat you are about to experience!   :p

A 1 to 1 tie.

After watching most of the game I now know why soccer(football) fans are drunks.

A draw? Good. Maybe  if we can get knocked out early the entire nation can shut the fuck up about the loathesome, overrated nonsense that is soccer.

Louis

Hear, hear!

Can't France just drop it off as well?

Date: 2010/06/14 11:55:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Mmmmh..Interesting...

What I like there:

Quote
"Titan's atmospheric chemistry is cranking out organic compounds that rain down on the surface so fast that even as streams of liquid methane and ethane at the surface wash the organics off, the ice gets quickly covered again," Clark said. "All that implies Titan is a dynamic place where organic chemistry is happening now."


And:

Quote
"Scientific conservatism suggests that a biological explanation should be the last choice after all non-biological explanations are addressed," Allen said. "We have a lot of work to do to rule out possible non-biological explanations. It is more likely that a chemical process, without biology, can explain these results - for example, reactions involving mineral catalysts."



But yeah, sure, science is *very dogmatic* and will settle on any explanation that fits its political agenda...

DI will probably FUQ it (fill it in their "Frequently Unanswered Questions"*)




*Thank you, leastIcouldDo

Date: 2010/06/14 13:27:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 14 2010,19:17)
Oleg:

http://www.sciencenews.org/view....Feynman

Is their server a 52ko hosted in Narnia? I can't reach the page...

Date: 2010/06/15 01:33:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 14 2010,23:40)
No allusions to Terry Pratchett's latest book yet?

Unseen Academicals?

At first I was a bit apprehensive about Pratchett writing a book on football, but it turned out to be very enjoyable (especialy since the Ankh-Morpork version of football is somewhere between rugby and a game of soule).

Date: 2010/06/15 09:00:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ June 15 2010,13:46)
John Oliver and Jon Stewart discuss the U S - England tie.*

Also, you can check out alternate endings.

US - England Tie


* I apologize in advance for the advert at the beginning - I didn't know how to cut it out.

Don't apologize, you can't skip it. In France, though, we don't have the commercial. But when I'm in the UK with Alicja, I'm not even allowed to watch the clips.

And since 2 days ago (and my new laptop), I get an error #2046 when trying to see videos on the daily show website.

I'm on windows 7 (64bits), using Firefox and the ever-crappy Adobe Flash plugin.

Anyone got any idea how it could be fixed? I need my Daily Show and Colbert Report!

Date: 2010/06/15 12:15:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Okay...

This guy right above me wins the looney-bin award.

Date: 2010/06/16 10:06:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy barfday John!

Date: 2010/06/16 10:10:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
2) On the diet of mammoths they occupied tundra environments. Some even lived further south where snow only occurred in the winter months.


I find it fascinating that the small mammoths from Wrangel Island survived until around 1600 BCE...

Date: 2010/06/16 17:31:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Anyone willing to laugh their ass off: tomorrow is France-Mexico.

Can't wait to see the look on Domenech's face. Maybe he'll finally start learning gardening, instead of pretending to be a "sport" coach...

Date: 2010/06/16 17:34:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 16 2010,23:30)
Among the Mexian soccer fans I know, the hot rumor is that the balls being used are non-standard and that this is why more goals are being scored- the goalies cannot "read" the new ball's spin, or bounce.

Paranoia, or is there some possible basis?

Seems the ball is 400 grams, slick as a post-McDonald floater, and very fast*. They are not the first to complain.






*Not talking about Louis' *balls* here! Move along...

Date: 2010/06/17 08:01:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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While Avenir is practicing the clarinet, I'm shredding "Reign In Blood" on my double-necked Stratocaster


I am Phil Giordana, and I approve this message.

Date: 2010/06/17 15:59:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JLT @ June 17 2010,21:23)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ June 16 2010,23:31)
Anyone willing to laugh their ass off: tomorrow is France-Mexico.

Can't wait to see the look on Domenech's face. Maybe he'll finally start learning gardening, instead of pretending to be a "sport" coach...

By now you've probably seen "the look".
But there's still a chance!
If France wins 3:0 against South Africa and Mexico loses 0:2 against Uruguay, you're still in!
Good luck with that...

I hope we get our ass kicked just like tonight on the next match. Domenech needs some vacations...

Date: 2010/06/17 16:31:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ June 17 2010,20:33)
I'm late again.

oooohhh!!! Prego again?

Date: 2010/06/17 16:34:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Definition of pathetic: having just accidentaly destroyed one's own external hard-drive and downloading one's own album on µtorrent because one was stupid enough to give all his hard copies to friends and family.

One feels really silly...

Date: 2010/06/18 16:29:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yeah, Louis summed it up quite nicely.

But as far as predictions go, we can still laugh out loud at "darwinism will be exctinct in fiver years time"*


Also, a couple of months ago I actually passed Mornington Crescent on my way to the London Zoo with my girlfriend. We wanted to stop there and take a picture so I could own everyone's ass, but time wasn't on our side...








*Ad-lib. Don't remember the exact phrasing and too lazy to pull-out my google-fu.

Date: 2010/06/23 05:01:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog

Date: 2010/06/27 07:45:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yesterday I played with Iron Mask, one of the bands I'm performing in, at the famous Graspop Festival in Belgium.

The "Metal Dome" where we played was full-packed (around 4000 people), and it was just great. Backstage, we spent the day with other bands, befriended the guys from Fear Factory and Paradise Lost, and I even got a picture with Slash!

I'll post a few pics soon...

Date: 2010/06/27 16:15:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog


Because I can!

(Left is Rami Ali, our drummer for Iron Mask, middle is Slash (no introductions needed, I hope), and right is ugly, tired, almost falling asleep SD...).

Quack: if you want me to have a quick word with your grandson about the joy of trying to survive in the metal business, I'll be happy to. Just PM me.

After our talk, he should probably be headed to a more lucrative activity like lawyer, or ID proponent...

Date: 2010/06/28 00:43:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Did you know that England are replacing the three lions on their shirt with three tampons?
They're going through their worst period in history.


Me likey this one!

Date: 2010/06/28 01:01:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I am presently staying at a friend's appartment in Brussels, Belgium, for studio work. The flat has a balcony opening onto a back court with lots of trees.

I was surprised the first morning to be woken up by the cries of about a dozen Alexandrine Parakeets. There seems to be a flock that has settled right under the balcony. It is quite nice to watch them fly around all day, even if they are really noisy buggers.

I don't have any camera with me, so the wikipedia pics will have to do for now...

Date: 2010/06/28 08:02:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just so I can brag some more:

Me on stage:



Part of the public:



Part of the band, me, and part of the public:



Photos by Alicja Bzdak.

Quack: of course, everyone has a right to live the way they want if they are passionate. Just remind him that professional "metaling" doesn't feed its man.

As for creationism, it's fine by me as long as it's just for the money (at least, I think that's the message the DI is trying to convey...)

Date: 2010/06/28 09:04:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ June 28 2010,14:51)
I thought this might be of interest for all you Englanders out there:

Lesson #1:  guten tag gute nacht und gute hyperbole






...Too soon?

Wooottt? IVF for NHS women over 40? Really???

Oh, wait...

Date: 2010/06/28 09:25:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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I can only conclude, as in Wayne's World:

WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!!


Yeah, did that to the Paradise Lost guys (Aerosmith played the evening before our gig, so I missed the opportunity). Ended with them offering to have a beer later on. The "We're not worthy" drill has its advantages :)

Date: 2010/06/28 09:59:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Richardthughes, you coruscant lovechild!

Where did you get my rehearsal picture?

BTW, this cat is my idol...

And I never wear light blue...

Date: 2010/07/01 13:26:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Acipenser @ July 01 2010,19:15)
I'm, obviously, a newbie on this site and I've enjoyed reading all the posts and various threads and wanted to add a bit of encouragement to those viewers pursuing a degree rather late in life.  Let me tell it is possible!

Yesterday, at age 55, I was granted my Ph.D. in Pharmacology and Toxicology (emphasis in aquatic toxicology).......it was a long strange trip indeed!

Now a trip to the store, a bottle of tequila, a case of Sam Adams and I'm all set for a dose-response experiment in brain and liver cell tolerence.....or maybe I'll just pop over to uncommonly dense and lower my IQ in that fashion and give my liver a reprieve.

Bloody awesome!

Congrats, and welcome on the board (since I didn't have the chance to say so earlier).

Date: 2010/07/02 17:01:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry, I loled:

(from IMDB "Creation" Board)

Top 10 signs you are a Fundamentalist Creationist:

 
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10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.


Ok, it's a bit déjà-vu, but still...

Acipenser: an evening well puked is an evening well spent!

Date: 2010/07/02 17:37:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quack: congrats on your 666th post!

And always remember: 667, the Neighbor of the Beast!

I haven't had a hangover in a loooong time. I don't really miss it...

Date: 2010/07/02 18:23:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ July 03 2010,00:07)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 02 2010,17:37)
I haven't had a hangover in a loooong time. I don't really miss it...

And you call your self a rock musician?  Pretty pathetic, if you ask me.  You might as well just go and join a Sonseed tribute band.

Added for context:  Sonseed!!!!


No, Carlson, I think you misunderstood me. As a matter of fact, my body is now so used to alcoolic beverage that it's quite difficult for me to get a hangover. But being pissed, I get a-plenty!

Sad thing is that I still get a hangover once in a while, and that one is usualy a bitch (think about 24 hours lying in bed in a vegetable state)...

Just one proud point: I never, ever, do drugs!


EDIT: OMG!!! Sonseed!!!!!!!

Date: 2010/07/03 09:18:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Rock on!

Bon anniversaire!

Date: 2010/07/06 04:48:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 06 2010,02:03)
Quote (Ptaylor @ July 05 2010,20:28)
It is tomorrow here, and Mission Accomplished!

Still yesterday here, so HBD, dude.

Yeah, so please be kind enough to send us the winning numbers for tomorrow's lotery!

And Poppy Spursday!

Date: 2010/07/06 11:33:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I still think these pics are fakes. Look closely at the colours of the lights above the kitchen. One is kinda fuschia, the other one blue? What next, Rich gonna tell us they "evolved"?

Nahhhh! too designed to be healthy!

Date: 2010/07/06 11:39:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Joe G: What is happening to my comments?


Ok. If that kind of stuff has been happening lately*, we might be on for the Rapture...





*If it could happen more often, I would be gratefull. Not the rapture, obviously, just Joe G getting a hair of the dog who bit him......

Date: 2010/07/06 11:44:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 06 2010,17:39)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 06 2010,11:33)
I still think these pics are fakes. Look closely at the colours of the lights above the kitchen. One is kinda fuschia, the other one blue? What next, Rich gonna tell us they "evolved"?

Nahhhh! too designed to be healthy!

They're LED strips. You can cycle slowly through all the colours, pick just one colour using a wheel, flash between colours disco style or just go with white.

Yeah, right, blablabla...

You dirty evilusionist!



All jokes aside, it is a gorgeous work you've done right there. And if it is in fact your brain-child and a "solo project", I will stand in awe of your bastardly awesomeness!

Hell, even if it's not solo, I will still be in awe and ask immediate permaguess pass, as Louis so wisely did!

Date: 2010/07/07 05:41:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ July 07 2010,10:14)
Evolutionary explanations of humour.

Sufficiently slow and painstaking explanation to IDiots of what humour is still not achieved.

Humour? I love this one!

Date: 2010/07/08 04:15:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Don't know if this guy was the same bilbo as the PT/UD one. Sure are a lot of trolls on the web


Bilbo is no troll, Bilbo is stupid hobbit!

Date: 2010/07/09 03:45:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sounds like yummi!

I just spent 2 weeks in Belgium, and let me tell you: their gastronomy is quite awefull.

I'm flying to Basingstoke on tuesday, and I will make the most of my girlfriend's kitchen.

I guess my first choice will be a nice roasted lamb shoulder with flageolets. And a Merlot to help it down...

Date: 2010/07/09 13:11:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Jameson is still my favorite!

I tried the "gold" edition in Belgium, and I have to say it is nothing out of the ordinary, especialy for 45 pounds a bottle (or 8 Euros for a 4cl shot).

I'll stick to the regular stuff..

Date: 2010/07/11 08:15:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
There were a lot of access problems yesterday on both AtBC and PT.

Wish I could help, but I know jack shit about ze intertubes...

Date: 2010/07/14 03:37:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 14 2010,01:32)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFwgblszf6s

WTF?!?

Ok, the "Evil Owl" is pretty disturbing...

Date: 2010/07/16 03:48:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
WOT??? Two people born the same day, same year? What are the odds?

DESIGN!!!

And happy birthday to both.

Date: 2010/07/16 06:36:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
As you may know, there is a bit of a controversy in France these days regarding a law that would ban burqas and niqabs from public spaces.

I am all in favor of such a law, as is the majority of the French population.

Apparently, the US administration condemns such a law, on the basis that it would restrict freedom of religion and would condemn the women sporting a full veil to staying home.

A lot could be said about the reality of the situation here in Europe, and Chrisdtopher Hitchens has a few thoughts to share about this issue:


June 30th 2009

May 10th 2010

Any thoughts?

Date: 2010/07/16 14:17:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
One word, one movie: Idiocracy

Date: 2010/07/17 03:45:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Before getting carried away, please remember that the burqa and niqab are NOT religious. They are a tradition from Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and north-Pakistan. The majority of muslims in France are against the burqa and niqab. Also worth noting that most muslim countries around the mediterranean already have a ban on niqabs and burqas in public places, such as administrations, schools, universities...

And honnestly, what bothers most of the French is not the religious aspect of these garments, but rather the passive-aggressive proselytism, the pseudo-appartheid it creates in everyday-life and not to forget the security issues.

Actualy, that last point alone should be enough for the ban to be justified. Anyone can hide under a niqab. I consider it the minimum to be able to identify someone in public places.

More often than not, we can read arguments from those opposed to the ban, along the lines of "if you ban the burqa, then you have to ban the kippa and the nuns' veil as well". The main difference between these religious garbs and the niqab is that the formers still let you identify someone. Not the later...

Date: 2010/07/17 17:38:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Most of these countries don't have exemplary histories of defending their citizens rights to free expression. Many of them do have trouble with radical Islamic movements, and it's not clearly whether this kind of restriction strengthens them or weakens them.


I am sure Tunisia, Lebanon and Egypt will be very happy to know that...


 
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"pseudo apartheid" because people dress a certain way ? Isn't this just another way of saying you find "those people" offensive or threatening ? Are men in drag engaging in "passive aggressive proselytism" for transexuality ? Goths proselytizing for vampirism ?


The difference, once again, is that goths and transexuals are not hiding their faces. It is simply a mater of courtesy. Goths and transexuals don't deny us the most basic form of communication, which is facial recognition. With the burqa, it's one person one morning, maybe a totaly different person next morning. How are we to know? How is the bank-cashier to know? How is the social-security agent to know? How is the examining teacher to know (although in thit case, there is already a law in France)? And also, you have to realise the kind of message the burqa sends to "infidels": we are not worthy of putting our eyes upon a salafist woman. I find it quite offensive.


 
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In this age of pervasive, undetectable surveillance, do we really want to accept the idea that you are legally required to be identifiable in public ? The old  "You have nothing to fear if you aren't a criminal" .... ?


Well, in all honesty, I think we should. Because if you have nothing to fear, then the person hiding behind a "tent" will have nothing to fear, even if said person has the worst of intentions. Yet, thanks to religious freedom applied to its extreme, this person will be able to go anywhere it wants, without an once of worry. Just FYI, as close as february 2010, there's been at least 2 roberies by men dressed in niqab in France alone. That's without counting such incidents in other euro-countries. And of course I highly doubt these guys were even muslims.



 
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Even if we do accept that this is desirable, banning particular forms of dress is a rotten way to go about it.  Would a burqa be acceptable if each one had a unique barcode ? Would hoodies and dark sunglasses also be banned ? Fursuits ?


The barcode is a nice touch. We were at one point joking about licence tags, just like cars :). But this is the root of the problem: the codebar and the bearer of the burqa don't necessarily match. And so far there's no way to control this without getting complaints, manifestations, outcries... Hoodies are already forbiden in France during protests, as well as any other means to hide one's face.

 
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I have no doubt that the burqa is largely a tool of oppression, and I agree that breaking down oppressive traditions is worthy goal. What I don't see is any way law can distinguish between a person who is being oppressed by this and one who is engaging in free expression. Banning particular forms of expression because some segment of the society dislikes it is a very dangerous road to go down.


This is the difference between the US and Europe, France in particular. The freedom of speech is not the same. You guys have such movements as the KKK, Neo-nazis, Nation of Islam and such, who have freedom to express their opinions, however offensive they may be. In France, you just can't do that. So the dangerous road you are talking about, we've been on it since the 80's, and mostly it's all been for the better. I wouldn't like seing holocaust denialists and white supremacists down my street. And I don't want to see crazy religious proselytists down there either, whatever the religion.

That's just my opinion, of course...

Date: 2010/07/18 11:33:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Requiring people to identify themselves to conduct business or receive government benefits is very different from requiring they must be identifiable whenever they are in public.


So you are saying you are ok with people walking the streets masked without knowing what their intentions are? I don't want to sound paranoid or wingnutsy, but I for a start don't really like that very idea. Especialy with the actual situation in France (which you might want to learn more about in order to understand the underlying issues we face here).

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Many things are offensive to many people. That is not (IMO) a good reason to outlaw them.


See, in good ol' Europe, for exemple, we consider nazi symbolism to be offensive. There are laws banning such symbols from public life. Nudity is not allowed in public places, because it is offensive to some. I guess on that last point it is the same in the US. Now, please consider the countries where burqas and niqabs are sported: public flogging, hanging or lapidation are common place for women who are suspected of adultery. In France, a new phenomenon has emmerged: Honnor Crimes. Each and every year dozens of young women are killed (burned alive is only one of the many exemples) because a "little brother" (scare quotes intended) or a "father" (again with the quotes) saw them talking to a male out of direct family ring. And weird enough, these crimes come from the very same extremist branch of islamism (please, do not mix it up with islam. Look for the differences between a religious faith, and an aggressive political current), than those fighting for the right to wear a burqa.

Would you accept nazi symbols, uniforms...etc just for the sake of freedom? Don't you think some people would find it indeed VERY offensive? Well, most people in Europe find the burqa and niqab to be symbols of all the horrors I just mentioned.

Maybe, if you are interested, you should check out a bit on Europe's history for the last 20/25 years in depht, and mesure up the social, cultural and economical abberations the old continent has been through.

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and how many were committed with ski masks, dark glasses, wigs, fake beards, clown makeup ... ?


Difference is: if a cop spots someone in a skymask in the middle of the street, just walking along, he has every right to stop him and ask him to take it off, with an identity check on the side. With the burqa and niqab, great taboos because "religious" (although I've already pointed out before that this is not the case at all) it is totaly impossible, under threats of riots, outrage, and general condamnation by cultural associations.

Date: 2010/07/18 15:31:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Yes. You've never seen a women cover her face with a scarf (not a hajib etc, a regular old scarf wrapped around her face), sunglasses and hat on a cold winter day ? Are the police going to harass or fine her ? Of course not.


Hum, I think that is the point were I need to illustrate what we are talking about...:

Hijab (or any other veil, religious or not):



Niqab:



Burqa:



These last two exemples are quite far from the "woman covering her face with a scarf, sunglasses and hat on a cold winter day"

Don't you think?

I have no rpoblem with the Hijab, which could be seen by some as proselyte. It doesn't bother me in the least. But burqa and niqab? No thanks.


EDIT: The niqab girlz totaly remind me of the Diva Plavalaguna from The Fifth Element... Still, not good reason enough.

Date: 2010/07/18 16:06:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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But that in it self is still an expression of their adherence to a particular belief system, just as much as a Sikhs turban or a Christian cross


Not really a good argument at all. Please see my previous posts, I've adressed this already.

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However oppressive and wrong the system is (very and very, TYVM), it's a mistake to assume that many of it's adherents don't genuinely believe it's an important part of who they are or, that they will go to hell if they don't follow it's rules. Making them choose between breaking the law and breaking these rules is not necessarily an effective way to extract them from this system. Maybe in the long run it will help the next generation get out.


Well, I will go to hell if I don't rape and kill 4 babies a day. Should we nullifiy the laws about rape, murder and paedophilia just so I can live by my beliefs?*



*persona is fully fictional, of course. It's only 3 babies...

Date: 2010/07/18 16:08:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reed @ July 18 2010,22:04)
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 18 2010,13:52)
The actual French law, I believe, bans "the concealment of the face in public" rather than singling out any particular garment so it looks as if big sunglasses are under threat, too! Maybe it will prove unworkable.

Chances are, if white skin is visible and the garment doesn't look "Islamic", you don't have anything to worry about.

Yes, you definitely don't know how France works these days.

Date: 2010/07/18 16:23:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 18 2010,22:15)
Quote (Reed @ July 18 2010,11:13)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 18 2010,14:08)
Yes, you definitely don't know how France works these days.

You really believe that such a law will be enforced uniformly ?

Well, having some experience of how the sus laws used to be operated by the Met, possibly not!

And still, at some point, we need to send a strong signal: France won't bend its neck to extremist groups that DO want to convert everyone to their belief systems. I am quite surprised and appealed right now at the fact that guys like you, Reed, or even Carlson (although the last one about french strikes made me laugh a lo, it's become a ridiculous habit here), who spend their time fighting religious zealots trying to force their view on children and education, everyday life... would defend the exact same behaviors from another community just because they seem to be the "underdog" at the moment.

Really, think about it for a moment...

Date: 2010/07/18 16:48:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ July 18 2010,22:36)
Nobody is fooled that the issue in France is the rampant confusion caused by thousands of unidentifiable females demanding driving licenses or seeking to inspect building regulations. This is about antipathy to Muslim people of a particular background and the reaction they provoke by their appearance. By an association whose mechanisms have not been explained to us, this is linked to the despicable pronouncements of jihadist nutjobs. I am not aware of a wave of female bombers concealing explosives under face-scarves. And if there were a threat of attack by bombers carrying bulky devices under clothing, the matter could be addressed by requiring all people to wear skin-tight apparel, which would be a very French thing to do. I'm sure...

I do not suspect that there has been a sudden outbreak in France of concern for the protection of girls from ignorant domineering men. [Insert bottom-pinching joke here] I have to see this measure as simply illiberal and condescending.

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I do not suspect that there has been a sudden outbreak in France of concern for the protection of girls from ignorant domineering men. [Insert bottom-pinching joke here] I have to see this measure as simply illiberal and condescending.


No, but there has been a sudden outbreak of radical islamists trying to impose by political, associations-related, cultural means, their values and laws in France. Do you guys oversea know that some of the "difficult" neighborhoods in France are now ruled by Charia Law? That  a non-muslim can't rightfuly sue a muslim under pain of being ostrasized by these so-called anti-racism associations? Associations that have succesfuly denied the right to use anti-white, anti-french, anti-non muslim racism in courts?

Seriously, if you want to get a grip of the situation, please make some research and don't answer on the spur of the moment for noble, yet out-of-reality reasons.

You guys fight religious zealots, bigots and all-time pushers in the US, but yet you critizise France for trying to stop a radical movement before it goes out of hands. Weird...

EDIT: about anti-french racism regulations, this not a joke. Everyday now in France, there is at least one violent act with cries of "sale blanc", "nique ta mère la france", "face de craie"... I will let you use the google translator for these. Yet, French justice doesn't recognise these as racist attacks. I am really open-minded and accepting, I work with musicians from all around the world, from different confessions (the drummer for Iron Mask, with wich I played in belgium last month is from Jordania and muslim), but why is racism only a one-way road in France? This exacerbates the feelings of rejection against a certain part of the population. Other funny stuff: in Lilles (north of France), municipal swimming pools now have one day a week when they are reserved exclusively for muslim women in veils or "burkini". No men or non-muslim women allowed. Quick is a french fast food chain held at the moment by the french "cours des comptes", and yet almost 20 of their restaurants now offer only Hallal meat and forbid pork in their menues. Almopt a growing proportion of french school cantines do not serve pork anymore, and offer Hallal meals instead. Most night-groceries now don't sell any alcool anymore because the owners are muslim. No beer, no whiskey, no wine...

Isn't that a bit worrying, for the country of porc and wine?

Date: 2010/07/18 17:21:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Carlson: once again, I would urge you to get up to date with what the situation is here in France. If you haven't done yet, read the post just above your last.

If you need linkies to all those stuffs I'm talking about, I will post them. Situations in Europe and the States are totaly different. Dembski wanting to teach your hypothetical offspring his bigoted views is not different from Imam Jean-François imposing his food or dress habits to a whole school, which is what is happening here, more and more everyday...

Thing is, at a point, you have to say "STOP". And this burqa thing is by far one of the last shots we get before being in deep poopoo... We kicked priests out of public life in 1905, it's not to have them replaced by other dumbfuckers...

Date: 2010/07/18 17:32:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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The veil ban addresses these issues how ... ?

I don't deny there are problems. I don't deny that radical Islamists need to be opposed. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to subvert the rule of law.


Your second sentence answers the first.

As for your first point, read the edit I did on my comment. I will just copy/past it here:

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EDIT: about anti-french racism regulations, this not a joke. Everyday now in France, there is at least one violent act with cries of "sale blanc", "nique ta mère la france", "face de craie"... I will let you use the google translator for these. Yet, French justice doesn't recognise these as racist attacks. I am really open-minded and accepting, I work with musicians from all around the world, from different confessions (the drummer for Iron Mask, with wich I played in belgium last month is from Jordania and muslim), but why is racism only a one-way road in France? This exacerbates the feelings of rejection against a certain part of the population. Other funny stuff: in Lilles (north of France), municipal swimming pools now have one day a week when they are reserved exclusively for muslim women in veils or "burkini". No men or non-muslim women allowed. Quick is a french fast food chain held at the moment by the french "cours des comptes", and yet almost 20 of their restaurants now offer only Hallal meat and forbid pork in their menues. Almopt a growing proportion of french school cantines do not serve pork anymore, and offer Hallal meals instead. Most night-groceries now don't sell any alcool anymore because the owners are muslim. No beer, no whiskey, no wine...

Isn't that a bit worrying, for the country of porc and wine?



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Posted on July 18 2010,23:23
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 18 2010,14:23)
who spend their time fighting religious zealots trying to force their view on children and education, everyday life... would defend the exact same behaviors from another community just because they seem to be the "underdog" at the moment.

Really, think about it for a moment...

I have never supported denying our religious extremists the right to express themselves or practice any beliefs that don't directly harm or infringe on the rights of others.

I don't believe that wearing particular clothing in public, by itself, meets these standards, regardless of what motivated wearing them.

I do believe that state interference in individual beliefs and expression is extremely dangerous, especially when it is likely to be applied in a discriminatory manner. This is in fact one of the main reasons I oppose extremists here, because they attempt to subvert the state to do these exact things.


Now, compare that to what is going on in France. I could easily play the "replace words" game, but I think you'll get it...

Date: 2010/07/18 17:52:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Stephen Elliott @ July 18 2010,23:35)
 
Quote (Amadan @ July 18 2010,16:36)
Nobody is fooled that the issue in France is the rampant confusion caused by thousands of unidentifiable females demanding driving licenses or seeking to inspect building regulations. This is about antipathy to Muslim people of a particular background and the reaction they provoke by their appearance. By an association whose mechanisms have not been explained to us, this is linked to the despicable pronouncements of jihadist nutjobs. I am not aware of a wave of female bombers concealing explosives under face-scarves. And if there were a threat of attack by bombers carrying bulky devices under clothing, the matter could be addressed by requiring all people to wear skin-tight apparel, which would be a very French thing to do. I'm sure...

I do not suspect that there has been a sudden outbreak in France of concern for the protection of girls from ignorant domineering men. [Insert bottom-pinching joke here] I have to see this measure as simply illiberal and condescending.

It is not anti-Islamic. Nobody is objecting to identifiable Islamic dress that does not cover the face. This is OK:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?....rl=http

This should not be:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?....rl=http

In the UK we have places that you cannot go into if your face is covered. Do you really think that those rules should not apply on religious grounds?  

As for any anti-Islamic accusations, yes I do not like Islam. That does not mean that I dislike individual Muslims. I no longer like Christianity (despite self-identifying as a Christian a few years ago), I have no universal dislike of individual Christians.

I do dislike our laws being enforced according to religious belief.

I wholefuly agree with this!


And with Carlson's burqamazing pic...

I have one, but it's NSFW. Shall I post it?

...


Yeah, ok:



Or this one:




Although these are niqabs. I am now waiting for the fatwa I rightfuly deserve*




*another point we haven't talked about, fatwa...

Date: 2010/07/19 08:05:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
That's interesting as well, when you guys want to talk about limiting rights:

Expelled: No Dog Allowed

Just one of the few exemples we have here in Europe. You should by now start to understand that there is a general dislike of such "tolerance"...

Date: 2010/07/20 14:08:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
But if you get caught, that is your own fault, and there is no sympathy


Dependent on who you are and where you're from.

Date: 2010/07/20 17:19:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
In my defense, I DID say it was NSFW... :)

Date: 2010/07/20 17:30:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy Boozday!!!

Date: 2010/07/21 03:57:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Reed: you don't seem to understand that France is not the same as the US. Right now in France minorities are very well protected (sometimes even a bit too much, since being from a minority actualy excuses almost anything).

Police forces have orders not to provoque minorities, especialy those from Maghreb. There are at least 5 government-supported associations whose main goal is to protect minorities (Sos-Racisme, MRAP, LICRA, LDH...).

Want an exemple? 5 guys have been convicted for opening fire on cops during the 2005 riots. They have been condemned to 5 months to 15 years in jail. And still the associations are calling this a racist verdict and are trying to overrule the decision. Those guys actualy SHOT some cops, but since they are from a minority (and more so as they live in poor neighborhoods), they instantly find protection from these associations.

Same for that guys that was shot this week. He had just arm-robbed a casino and was shooting at cops with a heavy gun. Cops shot back, guy's dead. The same night, riots in his neighborhood with 50 vandals burining cars, breaking public furniture and, once again, shooting at cops. Results? 5 persons arrested and set back free under the pressure of minority groups.

See? France is not the US...

EDIT: An exemple given on the page for FWM, the one with the father and son, is more reminescent of France's situation, except that in France, they would have won the case...

Date: 2010/07/21 04:52:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
but imagine he-she-it-they descended to Bavaria just to create our very own species


And probably try out some of your oh-so-delicious beers. If not, he/she/it/they're not half the Creator they should be!

Date: 2010/07/21 05:30:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 21 2010,11:27)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ July 21 2010,04:52)
 
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but imagine he-she-it-they descended to Bavaria just to create our very own species


And probably try out some of your oh-so-delicious beers. If not, he/she/it/they're not half the Creator they should be!

The Creator's choice:
http://www.augustiner-braeu.de/enabfrage.html

I have to try the Maximator and Heller Bock...

Date: 2010/07/21 06:52:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And now it's time for the comic relief...



Date: 2010/07/22 08:55:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
My guess is that we shall have to accept that Europe is no longer homogenous, and that we better get used to the occasional burka in our streets.


Well, that's your opinion. Mine is that I won't accept any kind of extremist religious symbolism, whatever the religion. "Moderate" is the key word to living together...

Date: 2010/07/22 14:42:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ July 22 2010,20:36)
Quote (Mindrover @ July 22 2010,12:31)
Quote (Henry J @ July 22 2010,14:10)
...

...

easy for you to say.

Well, he's got a point. Three, actually...

Date: 2010/07/25 12:55:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Imagin the worm as Dr^2 bumping on walls of rationality. The to-be-swallowed pixies are fundings for ID.

Just saying :D

Date: 2010/07/26 08:10:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog


HB Afarensis!

Date: 2010/07/26 08:54:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Bwahahaha, Wolfie!

BTW, I wonder how morse code translates on a Braille Board.

Any visually impaired around here to help me out? It's just out of curiosity...

Date: 2010/07/26 08:57:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ July 26 2010,14:53)
The domestic bliss of the Amadanian household was shattered by an unexpected text message from No. 2 Son (aged 17), on holiday in Germany visiting his cousins. The message informed us he was OK, no worries etc.

In the absence of information about what the Hell was going on (arrest for drunken molestation of innocent females seemed a plausible explanation), we rang, to be told that he & the gang he was with had missed the train to Duisburg they had planned to take, and so arrived at the Love Parade an hour after the disaster.

I look at the pictures of the chalk outlines of bodies and just shiver.

It is at least some relief to know he was not part of the drama. I hope he returns home safely!

But I don't know why, the first part of your message made me think of the movie "Hostel". Bratislava is not that far, you know...

Just saying :)

Date: 2010/07/26 10:46:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I can empathize, having been carried along by a crowd for @ 10 feet with my feet off the ground at a METAL Festival years ago.  Some scary shit.


Story of my life...

Change, bolding and emphasis mine...

Date: 2010/07/27 17:27:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ July 27 2010,23:24)
Quote (dvunkannon @ July 27 2010,13:12)
 
Quote (ppb @ July 26 2010,11:39)
PS to Dvunkannon:  Who is she?  She's Bones.

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a sex symbol!

Or as we have it our circles:  Dammit, Jim, I'm a drummer, not a musician!

I am Phil Giordana, and I approve this message.

Date: 2010/07/27 17:37:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would like to see all my posts, but whenever I try to, it displays this:

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form_srcid: Schroedinger's Dog

form_cmd: view_author

Your IP address is **.***.*.***

View Author detected.

view author posts:

Retrieve source record and display it.

form_author:

form_srcid: Schroedinger's Dog

q: SELECT AUTHOR, MEMBER_NAME, IP_ADDR, POST_DATE, TOPIC_ID, t1.FORUM_ID, POST, POST_ID, FORUM_VIEW_THREADS from ib_forum_posts AS t1 LEFT JOIN (ib_member_profiles AS t2, ib_forum_info AS t3) ON (t1.forum_id = t3.forum_id AND t1.author = t2.member_id) WHERE MEMBER_NAME like 'Schroedinger\'s Dog%' and forum_view_threads LIKE '*' ORDER BY POST_DATE ASC

DB_err:

DB_result: Resource id #4


Is this normal or am I just not talented at all when it comes to the intertube?

Date: 2010/07/28 04:07:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I invoque Zimmerman's Valley, interlockable displacement and non-British bloddyheadedness:

Nice International Airport (boy, that's gonna be one hell of a long trip to Mornington Crescent!)

Date: 2010/07/28 04:34:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (gravity well @ July 28 2010,10:16)
Wait - didn't the 1982 convention restrict the use of french airports (if i recall correctly it was assumed that they are perpetually on strike)?

Revised in the september 2001 convivium.

To paraphrase Sir Widdlebroth's intervention:

 
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I don't care if they're cheese-eating surrender monkeys, they still have money! Let the wretched fools come and spend it here!


Or something similar...

Anyway, I can always summon the "French-are-bloody-anoying-but-everyone-is-free-to play-and-I-don't-see-them-swimming-the-Channel-to-get-there" act of 2004...

Flying over Calais!

Date: 2010/07/28 05:31:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Low blow Louis, low blow!

Anyway, plane highjacked by Justin Bieber-worshipping terrorists. Seems we'll have to land in Heathrow instead of Gatwick (still better than Lutton, though).

Approaching runway 28R...

Date: 2010/07/28 06:21:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
VD: the acronyme fits the man, no doubts about it...

Date: 2010/07/28 07:55:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would like to urge to you guys the fact that using an International Airport to go to Mornington Crescent is absurd, albeit totaly moronic.

Which is actually quite fitting, and in total accord with the 1865 decree on absurd and moronic moves (SR:026, alinéa* 54)

Stuck in the National Express because the driver is drunk. Almost in London, though, and still safer than most cab-drivers...





*Yeah, I can do accents too!

Date: 2010/07/28 08:01:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Mmmhh.. Ok

Next time I'll select my nick more wisely. Any chance to change it without loosing my history? (I really think it's burdensome for others to write my nick whenever they adress me, and I am not anonymous, everybody can find out who I am)...


Thanks Wes!

Date: 2010/07/28 08:57:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Waterloo!


EDIT: is this some kind of a rhyming slang?

Date: 2010/07/28 12:22:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 28 2010,16:45)
http://vimeo.com/13457383

Coolness!

Yeah, right. Do you have anything cooler to watch? Like, anything? Say, a drunk stripper skydiving while playing the banjo?

Because short of that, this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen!

Fluids mechanics rulez big time!!!

Thanks a lot for the linkk Rich!

EDIT: although it reminds me a lot of Cinema 4D's dynamics pluggin...

Date: 2010/07/28 21:11:45, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Buzz Aldrin rocks, and so do Armstrong and Collins! But Gus grissom is the bestest everest!

Stuck in a traffic jam heading to Westminster...

Date: 2010/07/29 04:41:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I hopscotch a rainbow, take a sip of battery acid, call Morris (whoever that is) a morron and miss my stop.

Camden Town!

Date: 2010/07/29 04:49:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 29 2010,00:10)
OK, I spent fifteen minutes that I'll never get back, but the apostrophe problem is fixed.

:-)

Thanks Wes, works perfectly now.

I can now re-read all my posts and try to single out those were I was totaly wasted.

Ahhh, the intertube, almost as good as a 3 am phone call to a random ex...

Date: 2010/07/29 05:47:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 29 2010,11:07)
If you follow the links from that "Advice for Young Intelligent Design Scientists" post on UD it seems ID is progressing fast!
   
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Intelligent Design in the Natural Sciences is designed for college-level juniors, seniors, and first-year graduate students who intend to pursue graduate studies in the natural sciences or the philosophy of science.

Intelligent Design in the Social Sciences and Humanities is designed for college-level juniors, seniors, and first-year graduate students who intend to pursue graduate studies in the social sciences (including law) or the humanities (including theology).

Both seminars will run concurrently and explore cutting-edge ID work in molecular biology, biochemistry, embryology, developmental biology, zoology, paleontology, computational biology, ID-theoretic mathematics, cosmology, physics, philosophy of science, philosophy of mind, evolutionary ethics, bioethics, criminology, law, education, and economics. Each seminar will also include frank treatment of the academic realities that ID researchers confront in graduate school and beyond, and strategies for dealing with them.


Who exactly is doing all that cutting-edge ID research? The fridge? The photocopier?

Worth checking out the application form.
 
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Do you have a commitment to truth and to following the evidence where it leads? Do you have the desire, the vision and the determination necessary to breathe new purpose into the scientific enterprise and influence its self-understanding in ways that will benefit both science and humanity? Apply to become one of a select group of students participating in these exciting workshops.

Sounds exciting. And you've not even seen the list of speaker!
 
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Past seminars have included such speakers as William Dembski, Charles Thaxton, Jonathan Wells, Stephen Meyer, Paul Nelson, Douglas Axe, Ann Gauger, Robert Marks, Scott Minnich, Bruce Gordon, John West, Jonathan Witt, and Casey Luskin.

Sounds bloody interesting! Is the pay any good? Because I think I might just have what it takes to join the Big Tent (i.e: nothing at all, I'm a failled student who stopped school at 17. Should be more than enough...)!

Date: 2010/08/02 11:43:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 02 2010,16:36)
The other day, midwifetoad make a tongue-in-cheek comment on the PT Lamarck-thread. Just how tongue-in-cheek is this? Did we miss his/her birthday?

Well, it seems there's no info about birthdate on his profile.

He rightly deserves to be ignored!*





*No he doesn't, and a happy belated birthday if we missed it! As soon as there is confirmation, hand over the lolcats...

Date: 2010/08/02 14:23:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Aug. 02 2010,20:07)
Glad to help keep this thread going, but -- wah! -- wuddabout my chords?

Really, it's a pretty little lilting broken-hearted love song.  Give it a listen and if you don't like, certainly I wouldn't expect anyone to labor over the chords...  But if someone DUZ LIKE, then I'd be exceptionally, eternally, nay, virtually grateful if they'd figger out the chord changes and pass them along.

Thanks in advance!

Hi Stevie!

Ok, I'll get to it tomorrow and give you the basics.

EDIT: if you already have the starting chord, I can figure it out right now. Else I'll have to go and get my guitar or keyboard in the attic...

Date: 2010/08/02 14:40:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 02 2010,20:35)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 02 2010,14:23)
 
Quote (Steviepinhead @ Aug. 02 2010,20:07)
Glad to help keep this thread going, but -- wah! -- wuddabout my chords?

Really, it's a pretty little lilting broken-hearted love song.  Give it a listen and if you don't like, certainly I wouldn't expect anyone to labor over the chords...  But if someone DUZ LIKE, then I'd be exceptionally, eternally, nay, virtually grateful if they'd figger out the chord changes and pass them along.

Thanks in advance!

Hi Stevie!

Ok, I'll get to it tomorrow and give you the basics.

EDIT: if you already have the starting chord, I can figure it out right now. Else I'll have to go and get my guitar or keyboard in the attic...

Do you have perfect pitch / perfect relative pitch?

perfect relative. But I couldn't sort out a A from a B. if you just pop a note to me without a reference...

BTW, it is done. Just work out the final structure, but it's not so hard:


(intro): C# minor, B minor

Verse: A major, F# minor, A major, B Minor, C# minor

Bridge: D major, B minor, C# minor, A major, B minor, A major, B minor, C# major, A major, B minor

Chorus (I suppose): D major, E major, A major, F# minor, B minor, C# minor, A major, B minor, C # major

Finish: A major

Date: 2010/08/02 14:46:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 02 2010,20:42)
Oh, I'm abusing your transcribing. Also, check out FB - looky what I'm getting :-)

Well, to answer the FB question: YES!!!

BTW, If you see any mistakes in my transcribe, feel free to correct. That was done in a rush, and I'm more used to french notation (do, re, mi...)

Date: 2010/08/02 14:59:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Water looks dirty.

Model does not.

Beautiful work all the same...

Date: 2010/08/02 15:32:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 02 2010,21:03)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 02 2010,15:59)
Water looks dirty.

Model does not.

Beautiful work all the same...

Thanks. There was a bit of an issue with a rusting bottom (on the tub, not the model), but it's since been replaced.

She's a very good friend of mine, and I'm not commenting on her dirtiness or lack thereof.

I was just saying, nothing intended, although I love the rusty bottom part :p

Quote
I shot it at night in the park, near a street lamp.


Wait wait wait! Really? Then this is even more of a marvelous work!

Date: 2010/08/02 16:05:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Just a quick tip to Stevie:

If you want to play it for funsies, without the track in the background, just transpose every thing by 3 semi-tones up (verse should then start in C major). It will be a lot easier to play, as it will mainly adress the basic chords with only a few bar-chords.

Just sayin' :)

EDIT: Damn and blast! I just realised this sounds oh so condescending! Forget that last post...

Date: 2010/08/03 08:58:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Glad to be of help :)

Date: 2010/08/03 16:39:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Frank!!!



Ooops! Wrong Frank?

Date: 2010/08/04 04:13:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 04 2010,10:06)

Quote
"When dragons belch and hippos flee
My thoughts, Ankh-Morpork, are of thee
Let others boast of martial dash
For we have boldly fought with cash
We own all your helmets, we own all your shoes
We own all your generals - touch us and you'll lose.

Morporkia! Morporkia!
Morporkia owns the day!
We can rule you wholesale
Touch us and you'll pay.

We bankrupt all invaders, we sell them souvenirs
We ner ner ner ner ner, hner ner hner by the ears
Er hner we ner ner ner ner ner
Ner ner her ner ner ner hner the ner
Er ner ner hner ner, nher hner ner ner (etc.)
Ner hner ner, your gleaming swords
We mortgaged to the hilt

Morporkia! Morporkia!
Hner ner ner ner ner ner
We can rule you wholesale
Credit where it's due."


The Ankh-Morpork Anthem!

Date: 2010/08/04 04:57:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Bwahahaha!!!

Date: 2010/08/04 08:15:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 04 2010,14:09)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 04 2010,04:11)
No no no no no no no. Okay, yes.

Canada Water.

Louis

But you lose time because you visit nearby
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/whats-on.php?event=53856

In the meantime, I got off at

"Unseen University"

and am sneaking into the Library from where I can get ... just anywhere!

[whispers]just don't call him a monkey[/whisper]

Got lost on the way:

Whitechapel

Date: 2010/08/06 01:25:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Lou:

Quote
an honest answer


You're joking, right?

Right?

Date: 2010/08/07 05:23:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
(or maybe -tongue would be more accurate)


*shudders at the thought of FTK in tongue*

Date: 2010/08/07 05:33:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oldman: are you really sure you want to stir that pot of pus* again?





*The thread, not FTK, who is not a pot of pus. At all. No! Errr...

Date: 2010/08/07 07:07:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2010,12:50)
Quote (Louis @ Aug. 07 2010,05:19)
Bloody Yanks can't make tea. Not a proper superpower with coffee and crap tea, sorry. It's the rules.

Cripes, Louis, it has been 65 years. Are those grapes *still* sour?  

Besides *our* Vikings are much more fearsome (and not extinct) than the Yurpean version.


Bwahaha!!! Rugby with paddings so the precious little ones won't hurt themselves!

Sweet...

Date: 2010/08/07 07:21:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2010,13:13)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 07 2010,07:07)
   
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2010,12:50)

Cripes, Louis, it has been 65 years. Are those grapes *still* sour?  

Besides *our* Vikings are much more fearsome (and not extinct) than the Yurpean version.


Bwahaha!!! Rugby with paddings so the precious little ones won't hurt themselves!

Sweet...

Umm, dude, those guys stand 6' 8" (2.03 meters), are 300 lbs (136 kg) of solid muscle, and can run 40 yards (36.6 meters) in 4.4 seconds (4.4 seconds).  Just one of those guys could flatten an entire rugby scrum.  I shudder to think what they could do to you effete French ass.   :angry:

Ok Horse-boy! I've jumped off a perfectly functioning airplane more than 1400 times, and survived.

Let's see your "footballers" do the same!

BTW, "football" is played with feet!


ps: maybe we should take this to the bathroom wall. Wouldn't want to spoil FTK's "special place"...

Date: 2010/08/07 07:25:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2010,13:23)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Aug. 07 2010,07:21)
Ok Horse-boy! I've jumped off a perfectly functioning airplane more than 1400 times, and survived.

Let's see your "footballers" do the same!

Pffft!  Even our 85 year old ex-Presidents jump out of planes.


Yep, with the Black Knights, IIRC.

At least, that's one thing he did well...

Date: 2010/08/07 07:40:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Louis; go get'em!

Date: 2010/08/08 04:49:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
And, my Dad became ill


I'm really sorry to hear this. I hope he'll be better soon...

Quote
cuz I’m not staying long


I'm really not sorry to hear that. I hope you'll go away soon...

Date: 2010/08/08 11:20:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ Aug. 08 2010,15:39)
Quote
And, my Dad became ill, which meant several trips to Mayo


Why?

Can't you just pray and so avoid the evil scientists?

Also, I always find ketchup more efficient...


Sorry.

Date: 2010/08/08 13:44:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yeah, but if I spice it up, I might find myself in a bit of a pickle...

Date: 2010/08/09 06:09:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I wholefully agree. We should all take it with a bit of salt. It's getting kinda chili...

Date: 2010/08/09 16:57:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OMG!!!

Thanks a lot. I was going trough a bit of a depression, but this alone made me feel like a 100000 volts!

You gotta love the tard!

Date: 2010/08/10 04:58:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Even here in France, Stella is not first choice. The cheap drinkers usualy go for Kronembourg, which is like sex on a boat: fucking close to water.

Among ladies, Hooegarden is usualy prefered. As for me, it's either Guiness or Dutch beer. Nothing under 6°...

Date: 2010/08/10 16:22:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house


Quote
when they were come out of the synagogue


Quote
And Simon’s wife’s mother was holden with a great fever;


Scuse me! Scuse ME!!!

Some people talk about the poetry and beauty of the bible. I only see horrible grammar.

Just saying...

Date: 2010/08/11 09:11:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 11 2010,15:00)
Mine!



Quote
"The Golden State" Stratocaster was specially built for California Governor Pete Wilson by master luthier George Amicay with the assistance of Jason Davis at the Fender Custom Shop in early Fall 1998. Unique, the bass side features a gorgeous, finely rendered five inch diameter carving of The Great Seal of the State of California overlaid with gold leaf paint. This handwork, quite labor-intensive, took Amicay 200 hours to complete and is signed "G. Amicay '98." On the treble side are the signatures of former California governors, Pete Wilson and George Deukmejian carved in facsimile, and adjacent to the Great Seal is the carved facsimile signature of Dan Lungren, California's Attorney General under Wilson who ran for but lost the 1998 governor's race. What had been planned as very special congratulatory gift from Wilson to Lundgren became, instead, a heartfelt token of consolation.

Well done Rich! You made the right decision.

She's a beauty.

Date: 2010/08/11 10:13:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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DoL's screed could just as easily be explained through repeated controlled periods



PMS is a bitch...

Date: 2010/08/12 07:30:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog


Kinda reminds me of another "liberal" judge...

Date: 2010/08/13 05:29:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Beelzebub667 @ Aug. 13 2010,11:04)
The kind of interesting thing is that children are the one thing that can blast idiots like this out of their delusion.  Unfortunately, most children succumb to the mind tricks and programming, but every so often that one child comes along who is headstrong enough not to take it.  They're either cast out as the black sheep of the family, or they take the whole family with them onto a more rational plan.  It happens.  Dan Barker is one example, though it took him a while to do it.  They can ignore the outsider, in fact their entire belief system is designed to keep them on the alert.  But they can't easily dismiss dissidence from within the family.

A bit like the Matrix, then...

Date: 2010/08/16 05:21:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Chosen Response to Algorithmic Pressure

EDIT: Don't know what "algorithmic pressure" is there for, or even what it is, but it has the benefice of 1) providing me with the acronym I need, and 2) sounding a bit sciency without meaning anything whatsoever, a feature I find most fitted for ID...

Date: 2010/08/16 07:08:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (BillB @ Aug. 16 2010,13:07)
Teleologically Autonomous Righteously Determined

Me likey! Although, I do thing TARD stands as an acronym for something already. Can't remember what, though...

Date: 2010/08/21 15:09:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I kinda like these cargo-cult threads, but I hold no hopes regarding the sudden appearence of a new chew-toy...

Date: 2010/08/21 16:57:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 12 2010,00:19)
This just in... read the comments for LOLs

French Chef Found Frozen

French chefs don't unfreeze that well. I would advise a steady watering (room temperature, if it's not a morgue) for about 4 hours. Then stuff, add garlic, and off you go!

Date: 2010/08/23 03:37:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Anyone who argues that hail is not water is stupider than a box of rocks.


Yes, but is he the same size as a box of rocks?

Date: 2010/08/25 07:49:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Sorry I'm late to the party, but right now I'm in the middle of Poland visiting Ali's family. Internet is still a series of tubes over here.

Anyroad: HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLIPEY!!!

Date: 2010/08/26 03:40:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 26 2010,02:42)
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 26 2010,10:31)
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Complex? Bats have natural variation in click frequencies. Bats that click in a frequency that their prey can't hear don't starve and thus have more kids.


Some sock should ask Denyse what happens if you cork your bat?*




* For all the Euros on this board, corking your bat is an American Baseball custom, if you are a cheater, ala Sammy Sosa and Pete Rose.

Was I the only one a little disappointed when "corking the bat" was explained.

No, you weren't.

Date: 2010/08/28 03:59:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy severly belated birthday, Tank!

Date: 2010/08/31 02:00:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Today's Least I could Do strip:

Date: 2010/08/31 08:08:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'm all over the bathroom wall today (please, don't turn it into a corny/dirty/carlson's mom statement).

For those who can read french or have a good translator, I found this interesting bit about debate tactics:

debate logics

Different languages, same shit...

EDIT: I've tried a google translation for funsies, and it's actualy working quite well.

Google-translated page

Does it show that I'm bored today?

Date: 2010/08/31 09:53:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 31 2010,15:35)
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markf could you please go out tonight and look up at stars and planets??? ,,, then could you reach down and pick up a grain of sand???,,, and then could you look at the grain of sand??? and Then could you look at the stars again??? repeat a few times,,, and then let this thought sink in,,, If that grain of sand did not exist, out of all the grains of sand in the universe, you would not exist!!!


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-362853

I thought BA was on the wagon.

hey Midwifetoad! tard landmines are strictly forbiden! I just clicked the link and then had to waist a few minutes at my neurones' funerals!

Bad Toadey!

Date: 2010/08/31 12:19:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote

lastyearon, you seem to be unaware that science as we know it would not exist but for the “Christian stuff.”


Well, somehow, he's kind of right. Without the "Christian stuff", we'd probably be 500 to 1000* years ahead of where we are now...



*these numbers are being pulled straight off my ass, but I remember seing an estimate about the scientific "dark age" caused by religion which was somewhere within these numbers.

Date: 2010/09/01 07:31:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Khan, you can haz a doodle:

Date: 2010/09/01 10:47:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
WAY too much tard for me. I am one of these impatient types, and the only thing that comes to mind when reading such stupid ramble is to smash my laptop.

In deference to my ever-thinning wallet, I will cut off a bit on that tardmine for a while...

Date: 2010/09/01 13:00:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (olegt @ Sep. 01 2010,18:20)
BS in geology, indeed.

Yes, indeed.

Date: 2010/09/01 14:21:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 01 2010,20:17)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 01 2010,13:00)
 
Quote (olegt @ Sep. 01 2010,18:20)
BS in geology, indeed.

Yes, indeed.

And you get your diploma in six working days.

Except if something unexpected comes along during the curriculum...




EDIT: ©Cyanide and Happiness Explosm

Date: 2010/09/01 14:29:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Though the Creator apparently has an inordinate fondness for bugs


Are you, by any chance, referencing to Terry Pratchett's excellent "The Last Continent"?

If yes, extra internets to you!

Date: 2010/09/01 14:45:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 01 2010,20:35)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 01 2010,14:29)
   
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Though the Creator apparently has an inordinate fondness for bugs


Are you, by any chance, referencing to Terry Pratchett's excellent "The Last Continent"?

If yes, extra internets to you!

Sigh. We never wins the Internets ....



We were thinking of J. B. S. Haldane who said that the Creator, if He exists, has "an inordinate fondness for beetles." Apparently, so was Terry Pratchett when he wrote "The Last Continent."

Ok, I can never win in a general knowledge contest. It always boils down to Pratchett for me... :(

 
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'No, I mean like—' Ponder hesitated. The god had seemed remarkably incurious about the
wizards, possibly because of their lack of resemblance to beetles, but he could see a certain
amount of theological unpleasantness ahead.

'Like . . . apes,' he said.

'Apes? Oh, very amusing, certainly, and obviously the beetles have to have something to
entertain them, but . . .' The god looked at him, and a celestial penny seemed to drop. 'Oh
dear, you don't think they're the purpose of the whole business, do you?'


Just sayin'

Date: 2010/09/01 18:00:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 01 2010,22:28)
Quote (Cubist @ Sep. 01 2010,16:17)
Key point for any public 'debate' with Creationists: Do your homework. Find out what your opponent has said and done in past 'debates' -- what arguments he's used, what 'evidence' he uses, etc -- and study up on the actual scientific refutations that prove how wrong your opponent is. Distill those refutations down to compact, pithy soundbites, because you'll lose the audience if you spend too much time on actual, like, details. It would probably be a good idea to study up on your opponent's stated opinions regarding various Christian dogmas; if you can find any times when he's contradicted himself, so much the better! Creationist: "I believe X, just like it says in the Bible!" You: "Excuse me, but in your debate on (date) in (location), you said you believe in 'Not-X, just like it says in the Bible'..."

Also, if they keep repeating tropes that have been debunked in front of them previously ask them why they keep perpetuating things that have been demonstrated untrue and they know this.

In all honesty, I would just say:

Don't dignify the fools by engaging them in a public debate! To do so would be seen by their fandom as an acceptance of their views within the scientific community.

Let them froth at the mouth, per usual...

Date: 2010/09/02 01:21:31, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday Dave and Bill!

Don't abuse the hard stuff (much)



Date: 2010/09/02 14:09:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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snogged a Deadman


Hey! Hey!

Where has Deadman been lately, by the way...?

All this snogging is counter-productive!

Date: 2010/09/02 14:45:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (DNA_Jock @ Sep. 02 2010,19:15)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 02 2010,11:22)
 
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 02 2010,10:53)
In the middle of the Vastness of the Universe, Kairosfocus spots yet another miracle: The solar system has a special set of natural laws!        
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In short, the observation that a local cluster of laws and parameters seems to be irreducibly complexly fine-tuned to permit C-Chemistry, cell based, intelligent life is more than enough to be wondrous.

What I find most amazing is the arrogance of Gordon and his ilk, that the entire universe exists simply so this tiny tiny corner of it can host life.


Ah! Reminds me of Warty Bliggens

Welcome on board, and très à propos...

Date: 2010/09/02 15:52:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 02 2010,21:35)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 02 2010,10:53)
In the middle of the Vastness of the Universe, Kairosfocus spots yet another miracle: The solar system has a special set of natural laws!    
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In short, the observation that a local cluster of laws and parameters seems to be irreducibly complexly fine-tuned to permit C-Chemistry, cell based, intelligent life is more than enough to be wondrous.

Complex organic chemicals have been observed in outer space, not just here.  The list is over a hundred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_molecules_in_interstellar_space

Yes, and sometimes they even smell of Raspberries and rum

Date: 2010/09/03 07:40:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 03 2010,13:06)
Can't wait to see the UD spin on this
science-animals-evolution-australia-lizard-skink-live-birth-eggs/

 
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Evolution has been caught in the act, according to scientists who are decoding how a species of Australian lizard is abandoning egg-laying in favor of live birth.

Along the warm coastal lowlands of New South Wales (map), the yellow-bellied three-toed skink lays eggs to reproduce. But individuals of the same species living in the state's higher, colder mountains are almost all giving birth to live young.

Only two other modern reptiles—another skink species and a European lizard—use both types of reproduction. (Related: "Virgin Birth Expected at Christmas—By Komodo Dragon.")

Evolutionary records shows that nearly a hundred reptile lineages have independently made the transition from egg-laying to live birth in the past, and today about 20 percent of all living snakes and lizards give birth to live young only.

(See "Oldest Live-Birth Fossil Found; Fish Had Umbilical Cord.")

But modern reptiles that have live young provide only a single snapshot on a long evolutionary time line, said study co-author James Stewart, a biologist at East Tennessee State University. The dual behavior of the yellow-bellied three-toed skink therefore offers scientists a rare opportunity.

"By studying differences among populations that are in different stages of this process, you can begin to put together what looks like the transition from one [birth style] to the other."

STILL TEH SAME SPECEIS, HOMO!!!!111!!11!!


Jokes aside, for the live births, is it viviparity or ovoviviparity? That would be quite interesting to know...


EDIT: after reading the full article, I humbly retract my question.

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Stewart and colleagues, who have studied skinks for years, decided to look for clues to the nutrient problem in the structure and chemistry of the yellow-bellied three-toed skink's uterus.

"Now we can see that the uterus secretes calcium that becomes incorporated into the embryo—it's basically the early stages of the evolution of a placenta in reptiles," Stewart explained.

Date: 2010/09/03 08:33:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (afarensis @ Sep. 03 2010,14:18)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 03 2010,07:06)
Can't wait to see the UD spin on this
science-animals-evolution-australia-lizard-skink-live-birth-eggs/

   
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Evolution has been caught in the act, according to scientists who are decoding how a species of Australian lizard is abandoning egg-laying in favor of live birth.

Along the warm coastal lowlands of New South Wales (map), the yellow-bellied three-toed skink lays eggs to reproduce. But individuals of the same species living in the state's higher, colder mountains are almost all giving birth to live young.

Only two other modern reptiles—another skink species and a European lizard—use both types of reproduction. (Related: "Virgin Birth Expected at Christmas—By Komodo Dragon.")

Evolutionary records shows that nearly a hundred reptile lineages have independently made the transition from egg-laying to live birth in the past, and today about 20 percent of all living snakes and lizards give birth to live young only.

(See "Oldest Live-Birth Fossil Found; Fish Had Umbilical Cord.")

But modern reptiles that have live young provide only a single snapshot on a long evolutionary time line, said study co-author James Stewart, a biologist at East Tennessee State University. The dual behavior of the yellow-bellied three-toed skink therefore offers scientists a rare opportunity.

"By studying differences among populations that are in different stages of this process, you can begin to put together what looks like the transition from one [birth style] to the other."

Granny Spice covered it

As usual, she doesn't make much sense and she obviously didn't read the article and is relying on second hand accounts.

 
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I don’t get how this shows that live birth is evolving.

Animals that produce their young in eggs have way different systems from those that produce them via placentas, as do mammals.

With eggs, live birth is just a technicality.

Some snakes lay eggs, and others give live birth.

In other words, the eggs hatch indoors instead of outdoors.


Maybe some snakes or skinks are in between, but so?

To me, a more significant interest is the reptiles that protect their eggs or young, like crocodiles, alligators and cobras. that suggests that the theory of the unfeeling reptilian brain is not true.


(Bolding mine)

Well...


 
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there are several snakes families that are viviparous
although  the majority are oviparous:
Family Uropeltidiae: 45 species from Burma, Indochina, India and
Sri Lanka, viviparous
Family Boidae: 63 species (boas, phytons and sand boas) coming
from North,Central and South America , Africa,  Middle East,India
and Australia; most are viviparous
Family Viperidiae: 200 venous species from all the world except
Australia and Antarctica, most are viviparous
Family Elapidiae: 280 species, the ones that come from Africa and
Australia are viviparous
Family Columbridae: 1700 species, some are viviparous

The other snakes families are oviparous or ovoviviparous.



Linky

Facepalm, or what?

And I love the warm, cuddly feeling she must get when she thinks of all the love some moma snakes are giving their precious offspring, but that's another mater entirely...

Edited for link and clarity. And again to add:

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Maybe some snakes or skinks are in between, but so?


So? That's kind of the point, in fact. Especialy when it is the same species!

Date: 2010/09/04 02:06:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Actually, I think they might tell you that this particular guy was nuts and that you can't judge all christians, and christianity, on the acts of one crazy person.

Which is very true.

And very sensitive.

And doesn't apply to evilutionists.

Don't ask why...




EDIT: typo

Date: 2010/09/04 11:54:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Nasa has released a great photo series on flickr retracing its history:

Nasa on flickr

Date: 2010/09/04 17:55:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 04 2010,19:02)
Hi Schroedinger! I just heard the news about those huge manifestations against the deportation of Sinti and Roma in France. Congratulations!!!
(My grandfather was of Sinti/Roma descent.)

Thanks. Couldn't be there due to me being in the UK right now.

To tell the truth, I wouldn't have gone anyway, because what would have been a real citizen protest turned into a political militant display.

is there any chance that one day, somewhere, a rightful protest won't be screwed by political parties/movements/associations?

just a bit of, you know, citizens protesting without the underlying filth of politics?

Would be nice, once in a while, and more effective too..

Date: 2010/09/05 11:07:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
yes, and also a nice segway into John Lennon's Imagine...


Yeah, I'm a bit of an utopist, like that...

Date: 2010/09/05 14:45:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Seversky @ Sep. 05 2010,19:45)
Mathgrrl is doing an excellent job of tying the UD regulars up in knots on the "Media Mum about Deranged Darwinist Gunman" thread.

I wonder how long she will survive before they decide that embarrassing them with their own incoherence is uncivil.

Anyone?

Clive?

I can haz linkies?

Date: 2010/09/05 15:18:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks Keiths!

Date: 2010/09/05 16:37:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I think we had some discussions about functional informayion recently.


Not to try and relaunch a chutney  pun fest here, I think functional informayo has its advantages, with cold turkey or a ham sandwich.

And Mathgrrl sure is fiercy. Me likey!

Date: 2010/09/06 13:21:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Horseboy:

Why didn't you ever get a POTW for that masterpiece?

Date: 2010/09/06 15:30:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Having not grown up with blackletter, that capital V looked like a D to me at first.

"What? Really? How very odd these Germans are..."


Allow me to say, in the name of my fellow citizens here:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!... and shit..

Date: 2010/09/07 01:38:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Already covered here, with the mandatory link to UD's "debunking"...

:)

Date: 2010/09/07 01:53:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 07 2010,07:33)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 06 2010,15:30)
 
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Having not grown up with blackletter, that capital V looked like a D to me at first.

"What? Really? How very odd these Germans are..."


Allow me to say, in the name of my fellow citizens here:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!... and shit..

Look, just because I didn't invite you, too ...

And for the record: I am Bavarian, European, and happen to be a citizen of Germany.

???

I was just laughin at the excellent pun on "doucher", because, let's face it, the "V" in gothic font does look like a "D".

I didn't mean to be rude or anything.

Date: 2010/09/08 04:07:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 08 2010,08:59)
Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 07 2010,09:04)
re:  Schrodigers Dog & Kattarina comments - Just chalk it up to the damn language barrier between France & Germany - it's like The Hoff vs Jerry Lewis.  (snip)

Thank you! I was really preoccupied.
My mistake was not taking this into account.
In Germany, Bavarians are regarded as primitive knuckledraggers (wrong!!!) whose only saving grace is the fact that culturally, Bavaria is the northernmost  region of Italy (true).

See? I love Italy and am moving there permanently in October. We'll almost be fellow citizens!

Date: 2010/09/08 08:05:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
While in Poland, my girlfriend's father bought me a bottle of D?bowa , Polish Oak Vodka.

I wanted to keep it for my return to Nice, but since I'm stuck here in Basingstoke until Saturday because of a strike from the French Air traffic Control, I decided to have a taste.

Well, I used to think ?ubrówka was the best Polish vodka, but I stand corrected. D?bowa is tasty, really smooth, and doesn't give a headache.

I should have bought more!

Date: 2010/09/08 10:59:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
That could come in handy:



I think I'm somewhere along the 2 bottom sections of the Pyramid...

Date: 2010/09/08 13:16:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 08 2010,18:01)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 08 2010,06:01)
Corny has started a new spin-off: Stephen Hawking's The Grand Design: The Banality of Evolution
   
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There you have it, the culmination of evolutionary thought: The universe can and will create itself from nothing—universes are free! Evolutionary thinking, going back centuries, has thoroughly compromised science. It is now its own reductio ad absurdum.

Congratulations,  a never heard-of and extremely promising approach - conflating biology and astrophysics.

Does he never tire of getting slapped down?

http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2010....ty.html

I like that first one from troy:

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"In fact, several of the distant planets have contradicted evolutionary theories."

What have you been smoking, Cornelius? Is cosmology now a branch of evolutionary theory?


Simple, elegant...

Date: 2010/09/08 13:24:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hillarious link found in the comments on Hunter's blog:

Peanut Butter: The Atheists' Nightmare

Date: 2010/09/08 15:46:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 08 2010,21:02)
Did you notice how over at PT on the "IRC throws in towel" thread Floyd Lee is asking - begging - imploring Mike Elzinga to have a debate on AtBC?

Are you serious??? Link or it didn't happen!

Date: 2010/09/08 15:51:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 08 2010,20:58)
Thank you all for the advice. I don't have edit privileges, so I'll stick with the quotation marks.

You should send a PM to Wes or Lou FCD. I'm sure we'll be a-plenty to vouch for you.

Edit button is like a rainbow coloured, pink unicorn flavoured ice cream...

EDIT: Because I can*





*Didn't really edit, too lazy. I just added the usual edit button stuff. See what I did there?

Date: 2010/09/08 17:41:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Bwahahahaha!!

Let Yodel Elf strike back!

Maybe a dedicated thread would be nice...

Date: 2010/09/08 17:49:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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I'd prefer Austria and Italy right down to Sicily. Better climate (though worse wine).



Woooot???

As far as I know, Friuli is probably one of the finest wines I've ever tasted. Veneto is THE finest wine I ever tasted (26 euros a bottle in a small wine bar in Venice, and not a single cent of it wasted, although I was...).

And Vino Bianco Etna is also the best white I ever had.

The cool stuff with Italy is that you can have good wine for cheap in any restaurant (and when I say good, I mean good, served at room temperature, not like France where it is taken off of the fridge and is a mere 4 degrees. And when I say cheap, I'm talking 4 euros/liter).





This should probably go to libations and comestibles, right?

Date: 2010/09/08 17:59:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Also, I note that his tactic is basically: "buy Dr^²'s book and then we can debate"

Good marketing move...

Date: 2010/09/08 19:13:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
New dino-freak discovered.

Date: 2010/09/09 11:05:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Random thought: I am still in awe that the Mésanges Charbonnières are refered to in english as Great Tits.

The wonders of languages...

Date: 2010/09/09 13:13:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks for the hooter, J-Dog.

And for you, here is a nice shot of a big fat beaver:

Date: 2010/09/09 13:22:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
And here comes Rich with his shaved pussy.

Is it christmas already?

EDIT: Forgot to post that twat pic:

Date: 2010/09/09 16:23:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 09 2010,21:25)
Last month, I was in *Oban*, and this is what I had as foundation for the whisky:



And just to broaden your education:

And I'll be in Edinburgh soon ... just saying ...

Haggis!!!

The bestest whole meal everest!!!*







*No, seriously, I love Haggis.

Date: 2010/09/10 03:51:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 10 2010,01:13)
Quote (didymos @ Sep. 09 2010,18:53)
           
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 09 2010,13:44)
Clive Hayden: Realized Master of the run-on sentence:
             
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The digression to pragmatism, the need to remind me of “using whatever works” as a philosophy, is usually the default position of people that either don’t really grasp what I’m saying, or if they do, they don’t care for it, and are trying to, in a round about way, claim that since these descriptions of nature are useful, therefore they trump any other difficulties that may arise in our real knowledge of these descriptions.

Nah.  No master he.  A really good run-on sentence reads easy and has clarity. Clive's just a crappy writer.

I say Clive really is a master, by which I mean one of the best, of the run on sentence which is written, contrary to the hopes and expectations of materialists, to underscore the same two points, again and again, one of which pertains to the contrast between statements that follow from axioms in a formal system and those that arise from empirical observation, the former of which he finds superior to the latter, which latter never follow from an interior logic as do the former, and the other of which being a watered down version of StephenB's argument regarding rules of right reason, which Clive really doesn't quite grasp but which he does frequently parrot, not to mention the notion that the Ohio revised and administrative codes, including sentencing guidelines for petty thefts (e.g. pickpocketing) are eternal truths that may be found written upon our hearts.

In the words of C.K. Chesterton:

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So there.

POTW?

Date: 2010/09/10 03:54:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Today's Least I could do.

Date: 2010/09/10 06:39:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wow Aardvark! These pics are gorgeous. Where were they taken?

Not Madagascar, I suppose.

Date: 2010/09/10 08:05:24, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 10 2010,13:38)
gpuccio:  
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If darwinian mechanisms are not able to explain them, other explanations must be offered. We in ID are offering a very good one.

Well, what is the "very good" ID explanation? That "it was designed"? Somebody please ask him for this "ID explanation". I sense the vein of Tard on this one is deep.

Poof! Goddidit!

Incidently, I feel like crafting myself a nice sock puppet and try it out there.

Since I'm a complete noob regarding hard science, can I by any chance get some help from my fellow AtBCers?*






I think I just blew my *future* cover here. I hope I won't be banned from the CBEB...

Date: 2010/09/10 13:04:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 10 2010,18:59)
Cute! I didn't realise they are so small. And what did you do to make it stay on your hand?

Who ever said it was his hand...












See what I did there? :)

Date: 2010/09/10 17:57:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
FYI, I didn't do her. Too skinny...

Date: 2010/09/11 07:14:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
We read far too many of the same web comics. Are we the same person?


I think it's just because we both aim for excellence when it comes to internet graphic humour. And it doesn't get any better than Sohmer and De Suza (except maybe for XKCD. Oh, and Cyanide and happiness too...).

Date: 2010/09/14 02:37:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (keiths @ Sep. 14 2010,02:18)
This one's gotta hurt, Raevmo:

Creationism in the Netherlands, by W.J. Ouweneel, PhD:
 
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In the last four years or so, creationism has developed so rapidly in the Netherlands that without doubt this country is assuming the lead in creationism at present in Europe.

Well, this is nonsens spilled by a creationist website. Where are the numbers? Where are the figures?

And even if the Netherlands were the leader in creationism, it would be due to the fast increase in radical muslim populations, not to the christians...

And even then, it would only mean that they have 3000 creationists instead of 2500.

Just sayin'

:)

ETA: wikilink

Date: 2010/09/16 03:20:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Here's a concrete example:



There!

Date: 2010/09/16 08:22:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 16 2010,12:40)
Love is CSI.

 
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gpuccio: It has a specific form, which is CSI, and is caused by a conscious experience in you (or in me).

Gpuccio, the romantic.


Hey!!! The only real CSI is CSI: Las Vegas!

None of that Miami or Manhattan nonsens!

Sorry, carry on...

Date: 2010/09/19 13:42:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Anybody who uses the term "Darwinists" to describe modern scientists is automatically labeled as a wanker.


There Dave. Fixed that for you.

How are your eyes, by the way (good enough to read the screen, I guess)?

Date: 2010/09/21 11:30:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, that should be great! Shermer is a brilliant guy.

TED Lecture

He"s witty, sarcastic, and has a no-nonsense approach to reality.

A report would be most welcome!

Date: 2010/09/21 13:42:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I suppose I'm the only one here to have not seen P.Z on Mister Deity...

I feel ashamed!

Date: 2010/09/21 14:29:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 21 2010,20:20)
Noobs may want to heed this before following the dread Louis down the Northern line rabbit hole:

 
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Except during weekday peak
hours, all trains to/from
Morden run via Bank - for the
Charing Cross branch, change
at Kennington. For journeys
to and from Mill Hill East at
off-peak times, change at
Finchley Central. On Sundays
between 1300 and 1700,
Camden Town is open for
interchange and exit only.


Word.

Oh, c'mon!

Camden Town is only like 10 minutes from Mornington Crescent by walking. I haven't checked the 2004 revised edition of the rule-book, but it seems that according to Gartner and Lewis, Camden Town is not a valid move between January 3rd 1987 and December 24th 3025.

So what's the point in even citing it here?

Back to: Waterloo (I travel a lot, and I've been sick).

Date: 2010/09/21 14:30:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 21 2010,20:29)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,19:42)
I suppose I'm the only one here to have not seen P.Z on Mister Deity...

I feel ashamed!

You are.

You should be.

;-)

Louis

So I am.

And I am too.

Date: 2010/09/21 15:15:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Pfff! Amateurs! (the French don't have a word for "amateurs"!)

Euston (because it does look like a big pair of bollocks on the London Tube map)!

Edit: I beg to correct myself. We do have a word for "amateur", and it's "amateur porn". Go figure...

Date: 2010/09/21 15:16:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 21 2010,21:14)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Sep. 21 2010,07:40)
Road Trip!

 
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When: Thursday, October 7, 2010 7:00 PM

Where: Washburn University
1700 SW College Ave
Topeka, KS 66604
913-894-4024

Dr. Michael Shermer, founding publisher of "Skeptic Magazine", will be debating Dr. William Dembski, Discovery Institute's Senior Fellow, about whether or not science provides evidence for a designer. The debate will be on Thursday, October 7th at 7:00pm in the Washburn Room in the Memorial Union on the Washburn University campus. Admission is free. This is a debate you don't want to miss! Hope to see you there.

WATERLOO!

Wrong thread.





Oh, sorry...

Date: 2010/09/21 15:39:39, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 21 2010,21:24)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 21 2010,13:15)
Pfff! Amateurs! (the French don't have a word for "amateurs"!)

Euston (because it does look like a big pair of bollocks on the London Tube map)!

Edit: I beg to correct myself. We do have a word for "amateur", and it's "amateur porn". Go figure...

Bollocks? Nah. A barbell. Or a contact binary star system... or a peanut (that's a "goober", for Wes and Wolfie).

Ok, bollocks.

That's not a move. Unlike some people, I know how to wait my turn...

eta: p.s. nice move s-dog. Tactical without being ostentatious.

Well, if this does not look like a big fat pair of bollocks:



more so with the "sausage" trail above it, then I'll be damned!

I'll skip my turn for now, need to shave some racoons...

Date: 2010/09/21 15:41:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Cool Fibonacci fun: Tool, Lateralus

Date: 2010/09/22 04:49:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I keep getting quoted against my will


I understand your distress. I'd never do anything like that to you...

Date: 2010/09/22 09:50:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It was a joint effort planned a few months ago while sharing a Gin & Tonic/ Sparkly Water in Basingstoke, the root of all evil.

I traded my win for an account of how Louis became head cheerleader for [insert offending team of choice here]...

So there!

Congrats on the win Louis!

Date: 2010/09/22 14:58:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
The whole point is for you to generate a series of meaningless disagreements based on some sort of trumped interpretation of the rules. This being nice stuff is just disgusting. I'll take the win, but frankly all this agreement nonsense has ruined it for me.


I agree wholeheartedly. Congrats on the win again!

White Chapel.

Date: 2010/09/23 04:08:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Pudding Mill Lane

(Going for the delicacy combo, my next move is thus quite obvious).

Date: 2010/09/24 03:53:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I'm jumping the shark a bit there, but...

Moorlane!

Date: 2010/09/24 05:52:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Red sea parting explained???

Sadly, some more fuel for the literalist creotards...

Date: 2010/09/28 02:01:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Does someone know how to download youtube videos? I think the video is a forgery, and it may be taken down now that suspicions are raised.


Use Antbar

Date: 2010/09/28 17:20:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ok guys. See what you did? Is anyone of you proud of this?

Tss tss tss...

Date: 2010/09/29 16:07:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I would be more than happy to create a sock-puppet and post there, but I am not that good in either biology or mathematics to pose as a real enthusiast.

I was going to go for the "Jebus is teh key" stuff, but I realized it wasn't gonna be funny or useful enough.

If able ghost writers want to PM me some posts to try there, I'll be happy to be the messenger...


:)

Date: 2010/09/30 08:01:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wasn't Eve the one who first sinned by eating from the Tree of Knowledge?

I'm not trying to reject the fault on some poor imaginary lady, I'm just trying to remember what the fan-fic said...

Date: 2010/09/30 19:12:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Sep. 30 2010,23:16)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 30 2010,16:22)
   
Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 28 2010,19:22)
alas..."anti-evolutionists" aren't allowed edit buttons...we must actually proof read...suckage.

Fuck you, liar. Your button wasn't removed because you are ignorant, it was removed because you were being deliberately deceitful, going back and removing things you said to hide them.

Typical. Is there one honest fucking bone in your body?

Fixed that for you - I guess you didn't really mean it.

Edit: OTOH, I read some weird stories about you ...

Those about FTK are weirder, and in plain view, right here, on AtBC...

Date: 2010/09/30 20:01:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Yes, I had a look at her thread, and that's why I was wondering why Lou offered to f*** her.    ;-)


Oh, ok, now I get it. Quite a legit question, all things considered.

Carry on, don't pay attention to the man behind the...etc...


PS:I was not so sure about how to take* FTK until I started reading her crap about homosexuals, then it hit me that her nick was "for the kids". That's when I lost it...


*NO, not that way, you pervs!

Date: 2010/10/11 16:53:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
My girlfriend sent me this:

The Conservative's Dictionary

 
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As A Mother...
Phrase to be employed to give weight to any political argument (e.g. “as a mother, I think we should teach those Iraqis a lesson”).

Banking
(see Free Market)

Charity
A selfless act of generosity towards someone worse off than myself which I should be heartily congratulated upon. Not to be confused with a serious political solution to the cause (see Communist).

Collateral Damage
The accidental slaughter of people who you were meant to be liberating.  Don’t worry, they know it’s for the greater good and won’t happen again.

Communist
Anyone who wants life to be better for people poorer than I am (synonyms- Liberal, Socialist, Democrat (US),).

Contraception
Unnatural protection that doesn’t work.

Democracy
The most free system of government, in which nations can choose any leader they like from the two almost identical ones who’ve made enough promises to big businesses to receive the funds necessary to stand, and campaign nationally.

Democrat (US)
(see Communist)

Dinosaurs
Made up creatures. The Universe didn’t exist until much later.

Dirty
(synonyms- disgusting, filthy, unclean) Word used to express something that one disagrees with, but cannot give a coherent reason why (“that film was so dirty”).

Eccentric
A rich, educated person with a slanted, imaginative world view (working class equivalent- raving lunatic).

Euthanasia
An evil practice which deprives the joy of life from terminal patients in constant suffering, who don’t realise how lucky they are to be alive.

Evolution
A nonsensical theory that explains how creatures develop characteristics based on survival of the fittest, and tiny gene mutations going back millions of words. Self-evidently wrong as the world only goes back roughly six thousand years

Fossils
Like dinosaurs, these don’t exist, as the Universe didn’t begin when they were supposedly created. They were probably all secretly planted by Liberal hoaxers.

Fossil Fuels
Such as coal, oil and gas. Created by organic matter trapped under the surface for millions of years...Hang on, a minute...  

Free Market
Ideology that feeds on people’s natural motivations to make a better living, and competition between companies. Occasionally this results in a recession or depression, but the government will always bail us out and we’ll start all over again. Don’t worry when this happens. No-one important will be affected.

Friendly Fire
A regrettable incident in which you inadvertently drop a bomb on your comrades or allies. Still, they know it’s all part of the game.

Global Warming
Another conspiracy theory started by car-hating liberal hippies, and lightbulb manufacturers.

Gun (esp. US)
A vital tool that should be kept free and legal in order to defend ourselves against other people who can freely and legally buy them.

Harry Potter
A wicked bespectacled child who seeks to spread witchcraft amongst our children.

Homosexuality
(See Leviticus, Unnatural)

Immigration
An influx of work-shy foreigners looking for hand-outs. This practice should be halted now. In fact, it should have halted just after my family came here.

Jesus
Our Lord and saviour who spoke of pacifism, sharing, forgiving enemies, healing the sick, treating all human beings with dignity and compassion, and many other things that He probably didn’t mean.  

Jews
Evil, greedy race who crucified Jesus Christ, who’s also Jewish. But that’s not important.

Islam
A sick and twisted religion based on the Koran- which I’ve never read.

Leviticus
Book of the Bible that expressly forbids homosexuality, instructs boys to be circumcised and forbids eating non-kosher foods. You can ignore the last two. He probably wants us to pick and choose.

Liberal
(see Communist)

Liberating
The use of armed force to replace a foreign government with one friendly to you and your business interests. Don’t worry if you have to slaughter thousands of people for this, and the survivors don’t actually realise that they have been liberated. They’ll thank you eventually.

Liberty
My freedom to spend money freely and with as little interference as possible. Your freedom to work for me, and earn as little as I can get away with paying you.

Lynch Mob
A correctly applied form of democratic justice from back in the good ol’ days.

Masturbation
A dirty act of sexual self-pleasure that, in the case of a male, denies the God-given right to life to many of his several million spermatozoa.

Nationalization
(see Communist) System in which everyone chips into and receives the same service. Is ineffective as it denies business freedoms, and gives no competitive motivation to the institutions in question, therefore it should only be used for our most important institutions such as the police, military and judiciary- and occasionally to prop up vital failed businesses.

Natural Disasters
If a major hurricane or forest fire hits, then don’t worry, this won’t eat into your taxes. As long as it hits poor, black people, that is. For rich, white people, such as ourselves, the government will always find a way. If, for some bizarre reason you feel bad about this then remember the cleansing power of charity.

Nudity
Deplorable state of undress which shows us how God intended.

Our Children
As in “think of the effect this will have on our children”. This actually means ‘your children’- mine are clearly alright because they’ve got good parents. Used throughout recent history to express panic at things such as video games, pornography, violent or sexual films, rude words, heavy metal, rock ‘n’ roll, jazz (in fact, any music genre), comic books etc. etc.

Profit
The force that makes the world go round. More important, even, than the family, religion, and a true measure of patriotism. If you don’t have the freedom to make loads of money, then you have no freedom at all. So, if you want to move thousands of jobs to the far east where you can pay less wages, then go for it! Anyone who loses their job will understand that you’re simply exercising your liberty.

S*x
Dirty act that’s regrettably necessary for continuation of the species. Should only be practised by a married couple (that is, a male and female). Be sure to keep the lights off, not to enjoy yourself, and pray for your mortal souls afterwards.

Socialist
(see Communist)

Strength
The commendable will of a politician to do what’s in my best interests at the expense of those poorer than me, or to send troops he neither knows, nor cares about, off to fight.

Strike
The downing of tools by selfish ingrates who don’t appreciate the pay and conditions we generously allow them in order for them to make lots of money for us.

Taliban
How were we supposed to know that ploughing millions upon millions of taxpayer’s money into arming extremist Islamic groups would backfire? We’ve not psychic, you know.

Terrorism
(see Taliban)

Torture
A practice we use to help us otherthrow wicked regimes (and we know they’re wicked- because they torture people).

Unemployment
Situation that affects people who are too lazy to feed their families or afford basic necessities.

Unnatural
Similar to dirty; A technological advance that you dislike but can’t give a reasonable argument why (e.g. contraception). Not to be confused with advances such as the automobile, and computer, or thousands of others, which are perfectly natural.
Also applies to behaviour that you don’t indulge in, yourself (e.g. homosexuality) or, at least, you keep quiet if you do.

Violence
Something that should be encouraged in real life (by the correct authorities) but kept off TV at all costs.

Women’s Rights
Something I’ve started caring deeply about since this gives us a reason to attack the towelheads.

Working Class (esp. UK)
Uneducated, sponging hooligans who are regrettably necessary to keep around to do menial tasks such as clean the streets, sell and produce household goods, produce power, fight in our wars, pay our taxes (at least the few who aren’t benefit cheats) and other miscellaneous things that I don’t need to worry about.

Date: 2010/10/12 12:31:04, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yay!

New haircut, new avatar!





That was quite a useless post, wasn't it?

Date: 2010/10/14 11:20:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Dave, I could propose you with this short (1:03) piece, although it might be a bit too aggressive.

New Allegiance

To be noted, this piece was used in an international artistic ice-skating competition about 7 or 8 years ago, so it's still pretty mainstream. And it has a nice "presentation" feel...

I'll try to think of something else if this doesn't fit...

Date: 2010/10/14 16:09:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
What about Divergence?

Date: 2010/10/15 10:13:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Glad to hear it and to have been of some help :)

Date: 2010/10/23 00:38:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday World!

Don't bother to come by for a drink, I'll be pissing in your ocean anyway...

Date: 2010/10/26 12:51:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The Ten Commandments According to Louis:

 
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1-I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me, You shall not make for yourself an idol, and You shall call me Louis
2-Do not take the name of the Lord in vain, except when really pissed, or generally euphoric, or talking to someone already named louis
3-Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy, 3 squids a pint, well stamped down at your local pub
4-Honor your father and mother, but under no circumstances shall you forget to belittle Richard's or Arden's mom
5-You shall not murder unresponsibly
6-You shall not commit adultery before breakfast
7-You shall not steal what is efficently nailed to the floor
8-You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor, because bear assault on neighbor's false witness is bad
9-You shall not covet your neighbor's wife. Corvette her instead, it works better
10-You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor,except for those ugly lighted-plastic pink flamingos. They would look a threat on your front yard

Date: 2010/10/26 12:57:05, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It can always be fixed in the next edition. Like Nuggan, your holy book should be a "living testimony"...

:)

EDIT: I still don't know who that "You" guy is (probably a distant cousin of "Thou"), but his life seems to suck!

Date: 2010/10/26 14:56:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 26 2010,20:43)
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 26 2010,12:36)
Don't forget - It takes the kangaroos longer cuz they have to swim all the way to Australia after the Flud!  And they have to take care of the Fosters too.

The Fosters was safely stored in their bladders.

Yeah, let's not even talk about the crowded driftwood because of all the bloody camels...

Date: 2010/10/27 09:59:02, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy birthday DVK, you don't look old at all...



Soviet DVK-2 computer

Date: 2010/10/28 10:39:47, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hoppy barfday Tex!

Date: 2010/10/28 16:50:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Maya @ Oct. 28 2010,21:25)
Quote (DiEb @ Oct. 28 2010,08:22)
The hyperbolic school of counting:
     
Quote
one, two, many, infinite

Or the Pratchett version:
 
Quote
One, two, many, lots.


ETA: I don't think any of the UDiots would appreciate Sir Terry.

Maya: you evil smelling bastard! I was just about to post something about Detritus' drill school (Night Watch).

I'll post it anyway!

Quote
'now we sing dis stupid song!
sing it as we run along!
why we sing dis song we don't know!
we can't make der words rhyme prop'ly!1

'sound off!
'One! Two!'

'sound off!
'Many! Lots!'

'sound off!
'Er . . . what?'

Date: 2010/11/03 13:31:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Amadan @ Nov. 03 2010,18:39)
Read and Weep at Your Leisure

 
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On joining the staff of Trinity [College, Dublin], [Sir Terry] Pratchett will now find out what academic life is really like from the inside.

He will give his first lecture next Thursday (4 November) and will focus on creative writing and popular literature for post-grad students.


... and I shall be among them, having blagged a ticket!

I HATEYOUHATEYOUHATEYOUHATEYOUHATEYOU!!!!!

Just for fun, go straight to him with a big smile, hug him, and when he looks surprised and shocked, just ask:

"What, you don't remember me?"

Ahhhh, to have fun with Alzheimer's...

Jokes aside, have a great time. I've seen most of his lectures online. I suspect he won't be talking much himself, though, since reading gets more and more difficult these days :(

Date: 2010/11/08 15:11:03, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (jeffox @ Nov. 07 2010,17:45)
I think that, in Joe's case, fairies wear boots.
My 2c.  ;)

Hey! Don't mess with the Fairies!!!

Date: 2010/11/10 11:21:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Joe G:
Quote
And my back problems are most likely due to jumping out of perfectly good airplanes.


Oooohhh!!! I can take him on that one anytime. I'm a former paratrooper and currently a skydiving instructor.

Joe, let's talk about skidiving. No googling allowed!

Date: 2010/11/11 08:14:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I have it on good source that Louis is getting older this year.

Dates don't matter, so have a happy one Louis!

Date: 2010/11/11 13:54:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Yeah, right, monkey sees, monkey does...

Happy birthday anyway

Date: 2010/11/11 17:07:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Dates don't matter


wait, I didn't mean that! I almost lost my virginity on a date!

Date: 2010/11/16 18:56:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Congratulations and best recovery to the mom!

Among my favorites would be:

Emily
Aurelia
Livia
Alicia
...

Anything with an "i" in it. Girls with an "i" in their name are always winners :)

Date: 2010/11/17 19:10:23, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Seems like we won't see SR again, or at least until he finds a new sock...

Date: 2010/11/18 09:00:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Webcast is not working here :(

EDIT: ok, just started!

Date: 2010/11/18 09:13:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 18 2010,15:10)
The debate will be archived, apparently, on http://www.pcawebcast.com

Hitch is a baldy now.

Chemotherapy will do that to you.

Dr Dr^² didn't pull out the sweater trick, though...

Date: 2010/11/18 09:40:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Lots of ad hominem in Dembsky's intro so far. Not very classy, compared to Hitch's...

Date: 2010/11/18 09:50:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hitch destroys Dembski's main claim in under 10 seconds.

Dembski: "Atheists need to believe in evolution"

Hitch: "there were atheists long before the TOE"

Class!

Date: 2010/11/18 10:13:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
It's quite telling that most of Dembski's interventions are written down, and inevitably miss the point of what Hitchens raises...

Date: 2010/11/18 10:23:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Aardvark @ Nov. 18 2010,16:17)
Anyone else doze off during Demski's segment?

Yep. I watch whatever Alicja is doing on her laptop with half a hear ready in case he says something relevant. Hasn't happened yet...

Date: 2010/11/18 10:24:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oooh!!! Dembski goes on scientific questions!!!111one!!

Date: 2010/11/18 10:48:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
OMG!!!

"Crucifixion is a word that was invented to describe Christ's excrutiating pain. It derives from excrutiating"...

Date: 2010/11/18 11:13:28, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 18 2010,16:26)
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 18 2010,15:29)
Schroedinger's Dog should set that to music, Louis. :-)

I wouldn't poison SD's great music with my annoyance at Obliviot's bullshit. :-)

Louis

I haven't mastered symphony-for-fart-sounds enough yet to do Louis any justice.

Date: 2010/11/19 04:03:43, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Louis:
Quote
Or in your case, occasionally pop into a horse.


Spilled me coffee all over the screen. Thanks!

Date: 2010/11/22 03:42:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I am downloading the debate right now, for further use.

If I get the time, I will try to post it on youtube and put a link here...

Date: 2010/11/22 07:33:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks for the link Wes.

I've downloaded the full Sweater/Hitch debate (3 parts). If anybody needs it, just send me a PM*.



*NOT David Cameron, please, I already have 2 and they are very playful...

Date: 2010/11/23 15:50:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Miracle of birth...


Basic biology needed here.

Although FTK's comment is quite sweet, and I now feel ashamed for taking a cheap shot at her.

Sorry, my bad.


ps: the video is über-sweet too.

Date: 2010/11/27 12:53:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 27 2010,18:46)
My vote is that xviolx, who's post had no substance pertaining to the thread, be limited to the BW for all posts. Feel free to move this post to the BW also.

ETA: its probably Mabus of his meds again.

I agree with that. Furthermore, by reading comments on his youtube profile, xviolx seems to be quite the common troll...

Date: 2010/11/28 16:40:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 28 2010,22:33)
Quote (bviolexb @ Nov. 28 2010,16:33)
richard - do you want to see what is NEXT?

No.

Shame, it looks interesting.

I'm sure Mabus loves the pink ones...

Date: 2010/12/07 13:30:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
pedophile abusers


Sorry, but I have nothing bad to say about people who abuse pedophiles!

Good luck for the comments, though...

Date: 2010/12/07 17:13:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I still don't see the connection between homosexuality and the overturning of Darwinism in favor of ID.

Science so far?

...

Date: 2010/12/09 16:30:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Tanti auguri!!!

Date: 2010/12/09 18:31:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Ptaylor @ Dec. 09 2010,23:45)
Uptight BiPed has nailed it:
 
Quote
The nice thing about places like Uncommon Descent in a web-enabled world, is that a vastly larger number of people are becoming exposed to just how deeply people (intelligent ones) are willing to argue in favor of ignorance.

(Don't follow the link if you want to keep away from the odious Manhattan thread.)

Thanks for the disclaimer. Should have put it on top, though, brain hurts now...

Date: 2010/12/11 07:02:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Should someone invite Zephyr over here to discuss ID, or has he been here already?

He seems like a smart fella'. Could be interesting and nice, for a change.

Date: 2010/12/12 04:00:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]

Feedest ye notte yon trolles!

Date: 2010/12/12 11:22:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Could you please motherfucker try to be fucking polite and stop insulting everybody? If you've been raised in a fucking pigsty, not everyone else has!

Jebus! This guy reminds me more and more of nutcase Mabus!

Date: 2010/12/12 15:15:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 13 2009,06:52)

Recycling, because I can!

Date: 2010/12/13 16:17:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 13 2010,22:11)
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26132/?ref=rss

Astronomers Find Evidence Of Other Universes In Cosmic Microwave Background

ID will not pleased.

[head explodes]

Beside that, I've always been convinced that our universe is just one bubble in the large cup of moccaccino some fat ass is sipping down in Xxtrublub.

Take a look at a cup of hot coffee.

I mean, have you ever really looked at your hand?!?




Ok, I think it's time for me to go to sleep...

Date: 2010/12/13 17:15:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Dennis/David, I think it's quite sad that you keep posting your drivels without ever trying to engage in a conversation. Maybe you should give it a try sometime, it's very interesting.

Date: 2010/12/14 04:01:51, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh, never mind, then...

Date: 2010/12/14 11:35:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I will second the J-Dog on that one!

Rich, that's bloody brilliant!

Date: 2010/12/20 05:08:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Probably already posted here somewhere, but just to be safe:

Hitchen Vs D'Souza debate at Notre-Dame

1h48

Date: 2010/12/22 14:53:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (sledgehammer @ Dec. 22 2010,03:07)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2010,17:19)
 
Quote (Kris @ on the Behe Thread)
That love, compassion, and justice from the six sources are just pouring out of you, Mr. agnostic unitarian universalist hypocrite. LMAO!!

Oh well, what can one expect from someone who modifies their morals and belief system to fit whatever they want to get away with?

Ya know, you sound a lot like a catholic pedophile or a politician.


Ring any bells?

The double spacing between sentences is another dead giveaway.

Hey!

I

Do

That

Too!

All the time*




*damn!

Date: 2010/12/23 12:36:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 23 2010,16:52)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 23 2010,09:47)
In case you are wondering what to do with that $5 check you get from Aunt Mabel every Christmas, I offer up to you some organizations that desperately need you support heading into the next year.

For you West Coasters

For those of you in fly-over country

Texans! Ya-hoo!

Carlson -

Yes, yes, those are all "worthy" charities, but I believe that The Designer wants the humble J-Dog Family to show their devotion to The Designer, and it has been revealed to me that this would be best served by a donation to the J-Dog Family Worthiness Charity, which will be the sole owner of the following evidence of said utter Designer Devotion:



Thank You Lord!

Damn! That's one fugly car, J-man!

Date: 2010/12/23 16:06:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I love being able to really reach out and touch someone.


Ah! that's what SHE said!!!

And in general, taking pictures as gorgeous as yours should be outlawed...

Date: 2010/12/28 02:33:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Dr.GH @ Dec. 28 2010,07:27)
Quote (didymos @ Dec. 27 2010,23:11)
OK, anyway: why can I make a thread and he can't? I have no idea.

I am down as a "moderator" sort-of, and I don't know either.

Has Ogre ever asked Lou or Wes for edit privileges? I think you need it in order to start a new thread, and you have to ask for it to get it.

It doesn't just "poof" into existence, ya know...*




*See what I did there?

Date: 2011/01/01 05:25:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 01 2011,02:13)
Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 31 2010,19:03)
Sod that, I'll settle for lolcatz and dirty limericks.

But Happy 2011 anyway.

We need to start LOLcreationists.

Agreed:

LOLcreationist

Happy new year to everyone!

Date: 2011/01/02 18:17:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (awarfarexs @ Jan. 03 2011,00:10)
we just want to demonstrate how easy it is for us to annihilate you FUCKING BASTARDS... you forfeit your lives today....

Hey Denis/David/looney bean!

First, that's not a very nice thing to say. Not very "christian", to say the least.

Second, it's punishable by law (and we have names, known aliases, former workplaces, IP adresses and pics of you*).

Third: any good annihilations lately?





*and a nice stock of tinfoil hats for sale, just PM me**


**also I am a Nigerian prince and my father passed away not long ago. I have some assets that need to leave the country unoticed and you might just be the right person to help me, what with your trusting face and all. Just PM me

Date: 2011/01/02 18:32:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (awarfarexs @ Jan. 03 2011,00:19)
s.dog


the police will not save you, fucker....

Well, ok, I'll grant you that.

But...

Whatcha gonna do?

Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

Bad boy, bad boy, whatcha gonna do...etc

Date: 2011/01/03 11:34:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Add comment moderation to your BS forum before we slaughter more of you....


Slaughter by unmoderated posts. Sounds painfuly funny...

But, "more of you"? Has "we" Dennis ever slaughtered anyone? is that an actual confession?

ETA: Lou, agreed, we're laughing our asses off with Ali everytime he posts something new and original...

Date: 2011/01/04 14:18:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 04 2011,16:54)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 04 2011,10:51)
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 04 2011,14:51)
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 04 2011,07:54)

 
Quote
If you are American you have betrayed Canada!


Seriously? Wow! Who knew?

But Louis is an Englishman...who'd he betray?

a) English-ish

b) English enough to have betrayed, well, 90% of the planet at some point in history.

Louis

Well... at least you aren't French.  That would take care of the other 10% too.

Hey Tankboy!!!

Ya don't fouck wiz ze french!!! Count your days, because zey are over and done, and shit!!!

escargots, cuisses de grenouilles, dom perignion, paté de tête...



(all the above are actualy delicious)

Date: 2011/01/05 10:09:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Quack @ Jan. 05 2011,14:45)
Quote (Dale_Husband @ Jan. 05 2011,01:28)
 
Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 04 2011,16:15)
 
I do know that God exists...


No, you don't, so you just lied to everyone here. NO ONE knows that God exists.

I think I know but my God is so far from anything dreamed up by IBIG and the rest of them so I am afraid it doesn't count.

I thought last night after going to bed - the time of day (or night) when my thinking is at is best, that I'd tell you all (or as much as I can) about that but as often is the case, I had second thoughts when I woke up this morning.

But given my age, I feel it is about time I told what little I know. But it is my modus operandi to think things over more than once and I don't always do what I later realize I should have done.

Besides, there's always the argument: What's the use?

Well Quack, since you're probably descending from vikings and your god is most probably Thor, let's remind IBIG of this little factlet:

His lord was nailed to a cross, your god has a hammer. Let's make connections here!




ps: with regard to Louis taking a short break from posting here (or at least lowering his post rate), I find my reading pleasure renewed everyday by MadPanda's posts. Thanks, I need this...

Date: 2011/01/05 10:11:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quack:
Quote
Do you dip your croissants in your café au lait?


Always, Quack, always...

Date: 2011/01/06 04:34:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (KCdgw @ Jan. 06 2011,09:48)
Oleg:

Quote
Got that? The Bearded Dude made animals before man so that we could classify them. He is so totally right! Imagine how difficult it would be to classify animals that have not yet been made!


And we all know how well that turned out:

God: And here’s the next species, one I’m particularly proud of…

Adam: Beetle.

God: Excellent. Now here’s another…

Adam: Beetle.

God: No, you just named the last one “beetle”. This one is quite different — look at the pattern on the wing cases, and the shape of the antennae…

Adam: Beetle. God: Well, OK, though they certainly look different to Me. Now, the next species is —

Adam: Beetle.

From: The Real Reason for the Fall

Have you been reading Pratchett's "The Last Continent" lately?

Date: 2011/01/08 12:23:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 08 2011,16:00)
Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 08 2011,09:33)
Without a belief in God, the value of human life is just a manmade concept.

And if your belief in God is mistaken?

We could easily argue that belief in a god(s) is a manmade concept anyway. Or even an evolutionary trait, if we need to get technical*.

Yet again, it could be argued that everything particular to humankind (ie, not found in other species) is a manmade concept. Or it could be argued that manmade concepts are...manmade?

Does that make any sense or do I need to get drunker?







*Agreed, this is quite on-the-edge stuff, but still...

Date: 2011/01/08 14:18:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Or maybe IBIG's a moron.


Must...refrain...from...giving...high...five!

Date: 2011/01/09 04:26:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Both Henry and Badger are raising a very interesting point about the polytheistic nature of Christian beliefs. In Italy, for exemple, Jesus is only #7 on the list of long-dead figures (real or mythical) being prayed to. #1 is Padre Pio, and I'll have to check what God scores.

But in effect, if IBIG really believes there's only one god, and the muslims believe there's only one god, then no matter how they worship said god, it is still the same god. It's simply a matter of logic*




*That may be where the problem comes from. IBIG=/=Logic...

Date: 2011/01/09 10:09:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
In order to understand if it is the same God you have to compare the nature of the God of each religion to determine if that is true.


Oh, so there are multiple gods. Interesting...

Date: 2011/01/09 15:09:55, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I believe that God created life, therefore I believe that Abiogenesis (life arose from non-life by natural causes without the aid of a Creator) is wrong. You can't get around the fact that it is not KNOWN, how life actually came to be, therefore it would be a type of belief, for one to accept any way that life may have come into existence.  


I would go the simpler way of saying that, while abiogenesis is still a widely misunderstood subject, there are many well known processes that give clues to ways of getting life from non-life. It might be a bit stretched, to the dogmaticaly blind, but the fact is it will always be 10000000 times more fascinating and satisfying than "goddidit!", which has NO SINGLE BEGINNING OF A PROOF OR EVIDENCE OR FACEBOOK PHOTO-ALBUM WHATSOEVER!

IBIG faces the choice of using his brains to understand the world he lives in, or blindly believing a book written by goat-hearders a few millenias ago.

I think in the end, his stupidity is more a case of being a lazy-ass crook than actualy being stupid. The guy can turn a phrase, which is more than the usual creotard can ever achieve...




EDIT: "I believe X is correct, therefore I believe Y is wrong" is NOT an argument...

Date: 2011/01/13 03:24:52, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Shooting oneself in the foot. Way to go, Gordon!

Date: 2011/01/13 17:30:14, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 13 2011,21:21)
i believe in goats

bitches

Yeah! Ras is back!!!

Date: 2011/01/14 02:18:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Tuppence a bucket, well stamped down!

Date: 2011/01/14 06:07:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
How's Your Granny Off For Soap?

Date: 2011/01/14 13:04:37, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 14 2011,18:29)
But but but but we DO eat babies, don't we?

You...you...you mean all this time I've been the only one? Oh no. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! The guilt! The horror! The shame! The delicious babies deep fried and smothered in barbeque sauce...No must not think about scrummy babies.

{Ahem}

Louis

I tend to be more into Pastis fried fœtus. Does that make me a bad person?

I mean, I'm from Provence after all, and Pastis is our religion!

ETA: and I love scrambled eggs. Not even had the chance to be fœtuses yet! The infamy!!! And I won't even brush the subject of my (multi)daily genocide on a piece of tissue...

Date: 2011/01/16 04:58:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Alan Fox @ Jan. 06 2011,19:16)
Zachriel:

   
Quote
Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. Last post over a day ago.


Kinda like a self-imposed boycott! Has Oleg been banned too, finally? All we need is Nick Matzke and KC to hold off and the implosion of tard will be complete. Now soi-disant philosopher, Nullasalus, is enjoying his new status as a UD contributor, we may even be deprived of his thoughtful contributions at TT. There seems an inevitability with ID sites, Overwhelming Evidence, ISCID, ARN.org. Is there a pattern forming?

ETA a comma

ETA Belated meilleurs voeux pour la nouvelle année, surtout la santé, tout le monde!

Salut Alan, tout nos voeux pour cette année 2011, et c'est cool de te voir de retour :)

Date: 2011/01/17 08:12:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Wesley R. Elsberry]

Quote

who's the WINGNUT?


Oh, the irony!

Date: 2011/01/18 11:22:13, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 18 2011,17:03)
I've got a much longer treatment of my work on ID and the designer available on googledocs.

I would appreciate feedback.

Why ID Logically Fails

It's 8 pages including footnotes and purely about the logical consequences of the designer.

Thanks

Wow, thanks Tank, I'm gonna get on it tonight and post my feelings here...

Date: 2011/01/18 17:55:34, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Ogre:

 
Quote
I have actually heard an ID proponent state that humans were designed by aliens, but that
the aliens were evolved. This made perfect sense to her.


(Taken from your doc)


You might need to provide references for that assertion, else you'll get a shit storm from the Tard ©.

But if it is indeed true, I would think... daddy issues?

Still reading (slowly, in-between massages and whatsnot), but I'll be sure to give you a complete feedback of my entertainer's thoughts...


EDIT:

Quote
For example, since
nuclear reactions operate the same why now as they did 2 billion years ago10.


Might want to change the "why" to "way"...

Date: 2011/01/19 06:30:17, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 19 2011,11:55)
Just a reminder as we seem to be in troll season:

Replies to posts by banned persons are subject to deletion along with posts by banned persons.

Quote


# MetaRule 1) DO NOT respond to inappropriate messages with a message.
# MetaRule 2) DO NOT enter inappropriate messages.

Can we still respond with silly Lolcats and general abuse?

Please, pwetty pleeease?

Date: 2011/01/21 04:56:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
She thinks the same about all the modern art movements as me... it's what we refer to as "steaming piles of horse hooey".


This!

Date: 2011/01/21 09:44:50, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The simple fact of Kris being here attacking AtBC about its horrible moderation policy and not being moderated for doing so is ample evidence that his arguments are flawed.

And he's been offered a thread of his own, where he could go and discuss in a civilized way.

1 post from him there so far...

Kris; as long as you don't actually spam (look at Mabuse for a "how not to do it" chart), you won't be moderated. Restricted to the BW for a while if you start being really insulting, at worst.

But no one will ever silence you here for your opinions. Hell, I've had a few harsh disagreements with some folks here, and was never, ever silenced.

or Expelled©...

Date: 2011/01/21 09:51:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Unless the question is one of identifying European wildlife


Are you referring to swallows, here?

:)

And Wes: yes, good idea, thanks.

Date: 2011/01/21 16:51:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Aaahh!!!

After Mabuse, JoeG, IBIG and all, FTK is like a brease of fresh sewer-scented air!

I almost missed her...

Date: 2011/01/22 11:24:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wolfie, you're a true poet after my own heart!

Date: 2011/01/22 11:34:22, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
So, Kris, how would you test the ID hypothesis?

How would you falsify it?

How would you reproduce* the ID mechanism?


If the answer to any of these 3 questions is "well, we can't", then I'm afraid ID is not science.







*Insert saucy** joke here.



**Insert culinary joke here.

Date: 2011/01/22 11:36:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 22 2011,17:30)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 22 2011,12:24)
Wolfie, you're a true poet after my own heart!

...with a coil of rope, a roll of duct tape, and a carving knife.*

Mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-HAAAAAAH!

*Just kidding.  I'd used a strong sedative and a stryker saw.

Well, the easiest way to a man's heart is bellow the ribcage then a good stab up...

Date: 2011/01/22 11:56:21, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quick reminder for "science-guy" Kris:

Quote
Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[1] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[2] A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.[3]

Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methods of obtaining knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable, to predict future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. Theories, in turn, may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.

Scientific inquiry is generally intended to be as objective as possible, to reduce biased interpretations of results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, giving them the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established.


Scientific method

ID doesn't fit that description, ergo ID =/= science.

Funny that in the end it's always the same stupid arguments and whinning from ID supporters when the buck stops right there, with the very universaly accepted definition of what science and the scientific method are.

So, Kris, would you include astrology in science?

Date: 2011/01/22 12:14:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Edited to delete wrong post...

Date: 2011/01/22 13:32:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
To make amend for my post right above, I will post this:

The Messenger: The Conscience Scene

I find it to be a spot-on depiction of an ID follower, as described by Master Dustin Hoffman...

Date: 2011/01/22 15:12:35, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 22 2011,20:55)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 22 2011,09:24)
Wolfie, you're a true poet after my own heart!

I don't think it's your heart she's after, rock star.

Rhooo!!! You dirty you!

And after seeing Dale's linky and all, I can now totaly commit to insulting the shit out of Kris.

And there I was hoping for some interesting debate, silly me...

Date: 2011/01/22 17:45:10, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 22 2011,22:59)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 22 2011,16:16)
Why I am off to become a homepath just because of that, you see if I don't.

Louis

Going off down the homo path, are you?  We always figured that was the direction you were heading.

Totaly uncalled for! We all know Louis is "straight"...

Date: 2011/01/22 18:04:01, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 22 2011,23:53)
Note of interest:

According to my Twitter feed, as I write this several people are at the police station filing complaints simultaneously with the local authorities against Mabus/Markuzi for his death threats in various venues.

Hopefully, the fucker will wind up with a backwards sweater and lots of medication.

Well, if this is true, there's only one thing left to say:

xxrobotoxx, you forfait your life today!!!!!1111one111eleven!!1

Date: 2011/01/23 02:37:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I think it's time to stop with the insults, Kris. You said you wanted a reasonable discussion, and now you're back to your shenanigans because you can't face the fact of being wrong or seing your own flaws pointed out.

It's not even fun anymore, it's just boring...

Date: 2011/01/23 03:11:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks fnxtr!

And a happy birthday to Top-Dog Wes!

Bring on the lolcats!!!

Date: 2011/01/23 03:17:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 23 2011,09:13)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 23 2011,00:37)
I think it's time to stop with the insults, Kris. You said you wanted a reasonable discussion, and now you're back to your shenanigans because you can't face the fact of being wrong or seing your own flaws pointed out.

It's not even fun anymore, it's just boring...


Oh, so it's ok for you and other people to insult me over and over but it's not ok for me to insult anyone back. I'm expected to be reasonable but no one else is. I see.

You and some others here should look at your own flaws.

Be nice, it's my birthday!

And you will get insulted if you insult. Let's see who started insulting who on this thread... My! It seems it was you, in the very first post.

Want to start it all again without calling people hypocrites (and not being able to back up your claims)?

Date: 2011/01/23 03:27:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
see? You're not very reasonable. I'm honestly proposing to start this whole discussion over on clean basis, without insults, yet the only answer you manage is another tu quoque.

In the end, you are not really here to discuss science, are you? You're more here to complain and bitch around, which is a shame since there was potential for an interesting interaction.

Date: 2011/01/23 04:18:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Kris, one thing I'd like to understand is this:

If you are not religious or a creationist, why do you spend so much time and energy defending them? I think they are well enough capable of trying to defend themselves (which they do, even if most of thge time it's in clumsy, ineffective ways). It makes you come out as patronizing.

And if what you say is indeed true (our behavior towards the religious fanatics, liers-for-Jesus, creationist hacks... turns some people away from science), just keep in mind that the opposite is also true, on a much larger scale. A LOT of people end up rejecting religion because of the zealots' attitude. I don't know how many are turned away from science by some scientists'/atheists' behavior, but I've never met anyone who has been, whereas I've met quite a few ex-religious persons who left their faith because of the religious nutjobs...

Date: 2011/01/23 07:21:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
What the fuck is he talking about? Well, a couple of posts ago he demonstrated that some of your rants are direct Copy/Pasta of some other rants you (or someone else) posted elsewhere.

That's very funny, I think.

And Kris, about the last paragraph in your quoted post: science never had very good PR. And you know what? Science doesn't give a flying fuck!

Date: 2011/01/23 07:45:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
For your information, most of humanity believes that a creator/designer is responsible for the universe and everything in it. Think of that when you're showing your hatred of ID/creationists.


Sorry, but it doesn't mean they're right, and it certainly doesn't mean some of them can distort science and lie about science to serve a political agenda...

Date: 2011/01/23 10:31:32, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 23 2011,14:06)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 23 2011,05:21)
What the fuck is he talking about? Well, a couple of posts ago he demonstrated that some of your rants are direct Copy/Pasta of some other rants you (or someone else) posted elsewhere.

That's very funny, I think.

And Kris, about the last paragraph in your quoted post: science never had very good PR. And you know what? Science doesn't give a flying fuck!

Actually, he didn't show any such thing. I copied and pasted what Dale says about his alleged honorable skepticism. What's wrong with that? Dale's the one who says exactly the same thing on several sites.


It's funny that you say science doesn't give a flying fuck about PR. I guess that means that you and most of the people on sites like this one, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc., aren't representatives of science.

What is your motive for bashing ID/creationists here or anywhere else? Is it just so that you can vent your hatred of ID/creationists? Is it to promote science? Is it to get people to shun religion and become more interested in science?

Ya see, if you're not interested in the PR of science, then you must be here just to bitch about religion/creationism/ID. Apparently that's why most people must be here.

If scientists want the public to care about and trust science they should be concerned about PR. You guys are wasting your time if you think that just bitching about religion/creationism/ID is going to accomplish anything positive for science. With an attitude like yours it's no wonder that religion is more popular than science.

Speaking for myself, I basicaly do it for the lulz.

But nobody here bashes the IDists/creationists that act with civility. At best, we bash the stupidity they are spewing, but not the guys themselves.

But when they become uncivil, or clearly irrational (IBIG, Floyd Lee, JoeG...) because cornered and unable to answer to simple questions, then we start bashing them. Why would we do otherwise when they come here and crap all over the carpet?

This is one of the reasons I proposed you start this discussion again presenting your point or queries without getting all ad hominem and stuff.

And you failed to do that, you failed to show a tinsy bit of backbone by starting a real discussion. if you have issues with Dale, resolve them thru private messages, but you should in this here venue try and discuss what you said you wanted to discuss: science.

If you continue on this same line you've been holding so far, the shitstorm will continue and you will be sure to get nailed to the cross (if only by numbers alone).

Date: 2011/01/23 15:13:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Again, many thanks to everyone.

This day was not so eventful, but Ali and I rewatched the NOVA Judgement Day program just for funsies. We had a nice lunch with my family and went for an indian diner with my childhood pal.

Now it's massage time, and then some...

:)

Date: 2011/01/23 15:26:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
I, myself, was not a virgin when I married and looking back, I can see the value of being abstinent until marriage


FTK, would you mind elaborating on the value of abstinence until marriage?

ETA: This is a serious question, I am curious about this value.

Date: 2011/01/23 16:05:36, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, FTK, God's words not withstanding (I am an atheist, remember?), I think there are many interesting points to argue regarding this issue.

The main one would be that every person is different from the next, and experiences his/her sexual life in a whole range of different ways. I know couples that have been together since almost childhood, knowing just one lover, and are now curious about what sexuality as a whole entails.

I don't think we see sexuality as just a fonction, but also as a very important social and emotional bond. Plus it's huuuge fun.

My best friend (a girl) used to be very promiscuous, and yet now that she's in love and has found the "right guy", she is happier than ever, with the added perk of knowing one or two or five extra stuff about sexual intercourse. There is positive sides to all situations.

As long as you don't impose your viewpoint as the only true and rightous one, it's fine by my book. Each to his/her own.

Date: 2011/01/23 16:43:30, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Hey Kristine! Wasn't me, was Khan!

I was just pointing out that I love teh kinky in all its forms, as long as it's done with respect and mutual agreement...

Date: 2011/01/23 16:50:58, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 23 2011,22:40)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 23 2011,16:05)
Well, FTK, God's words not withstanding (I am an atheist, remember?), I think there are many interesting points to argue regarding this issue.

The main one would be that every person is different from the next, and experiences his/her sexual life in a whole range of different ways. I know couples that have been together since almost childhood, knowing just one lover, and are now curious about what sexuality as a whole entails.

I don't think we see sexuality as just a fonction, but also as a very important social and emotional bond. Plus it's huuuge fun.

My best friend (a girl) used to be very promiscuous, and yet now that she's in love and has found the "right guy", she is happier than ever, with the added perk of knowing one or two or five extra stuff about sexual intercourse. There is positive sides to all situations.

As long as you don't impose your viewpoint as the only true and rightous one, it's fine by my book. Each to his/her own.

Just a quick thought.  I don't personally think it's important at all to have years of previous sexual encounters to be able to enjoy your sex life to the fullest with just one person.  Sex is not a difficult thing to figure out or enjoy, and it doesn't take years of experience to cum up with a multitude of ways of enjoying it.  Just sayin'....;P

I like the "cum" pun. :p

Besides that, sex comes in so many flavors, including multiple partners, sex toys, simple arousing, full intercourse, anal, oral, nuru massages, exhibition, BDSM, spitting, snowballing..etc

All these things are, in a way, enjoyable to someone, and don't have anything to do with marriage in the way they are basically enjoyed.

I know I enjoy making love to the woman I love, whatever the way and however kinky it is. But some people find arousal in having different partners, doing borderline stuff...

In the end it's just a matter of taste, and I think marriage has little to do with it.

In a way, even you could probably say you may have a marriage fetish ;)

Date: 2011/01/23 17:12:07, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Well, FTK, we have totaly different views on this topic, and I think it's not one we can find middle ground about.

But all the same, it was nice to finally have a human, civil, and interesting talk with you. Keep it up on other subjects discussed in these pages!

Good evening (midnight here, had my birthday diner, feel full, getting a massage, 3 hot girls waiting for me...)








ETA: By the way, sex IS a game! reproduction is the final goal, but you do have to practice. And as with boxing, dancing... you need to try multiple sparing partners in order to get full potential...

Date: 2011/01/24 05:11:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quite surprisingly, I find myself comming in defense of FTK.

In this particular conversation, she has clearly stated that she personnaly doesn't want a legislation promoting or condemning abortion. She stated her own personal opinion on the subject, laced with god-stuff because she has a system of belief and keeps to it. We don't care much about the god-stuff, and I would say that she is totaly free to believe as fervently as she does, if it helps her with her life. Because most loonies on her side of the religious spectrum are trying to impose their views and morals through legislation (on the issue of abortion, I mean) doesn't mean she does. For this one, I will not bag her with the other nutjobs.

On this particular issue, I find FTK to be reasonable (i.e in contrast to her past stance regarding ID in schools). I do not agree with what she's saying, but she's not forcing her views on anyone. So for now I am inclined to make concessions and discuss the issues without attacking her faith.

AFAIK, she could be an atheist and still have the same opinion about abortion. She's a mother, and I can totaly understand her view, even if I don't share it.

Exact same thing for sex and promiscuity. She didn't tell us that we were all evil sinners and where going to burn in hell. She stated her opinion based on her own experiences and those of people around her (not counting the unreferenced paper, which I find a bit dubious). We have had different experiences and know people that also had different experiences. And the bible has nothing to do with FTK's or anyone else's position on this subject.

So if FTK is ok to stop the god-stuff altogether, and we agree not to bring it on the table, this could be a very interesting discussion.

But I'm obviously stating the obvious...

Date: 2011/01/24 05:59:11, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Thanks Louis, new signature...

Date: 2011/01/24 07:09:18, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Louis, I never implied it was going to be a discussion prone to change her mind on the subject. I just said it would be an interesting discussion. And that if we could all debate in calm, polite, religion-free manners for a while, it would probably be quite nice.

I think that your definitions of bullshiting and lying are spot-on. Past experiences with FTK would point to bullshiting, but I feel inclined to give her the benefice of the doubt and see her arguments through. She says she will vote the way her heart and beliefs tell her to, but she also points out that she is against pro or anti abortion laws. This is the bit I am interested in. When you remember how adamant she was of ID being taught in science classes, I find her stance on the issue of abortion to be quite more reasonable: "I'm against it, but I won't force my views onto others by means of a law". She thinks abortion is bad, and who could blame her? She is, after all, a mother. But she didn't say (here at least) "abortion is bad, I want it outlawed and perpetrators prosecuted, condemned, executed".

This is where I think the debate would be interesting, as for once FTK is relatively reasonable and seems willing to see the other's POV (well, at least I hope so, else you can erase all I've said in my last two posts for the court transcript).

Again, I might be totaly mistaken and she might have a hidden agenda, but I'm willing to see where this is going. We'll never sway her, but maybe she'll kinda understand the opposite view a bit better, even if she still disagrees with it.

Yet again, the birthday dinner, subsequent massage and sexy time were lovely, so I think I might be blinded by the pink veil of happiness today...

Date: 2011/01/24 09:48:26, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
After reading Kris's posts with an open mind, and can only come up with this conclusion:

The guy's a schmuck!

Date: 2011/01/24 11:31:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 24 2011,17:29)
Quote
I'm still willing to bet he cannot find even ONE single example to support the claims he made.


except that we can't parse this from "doesn't give a fuck about even trying to do so"

I'm still willing to bet he cannot swallow even ONE entire gallon of diesel fuel.  May he prove me wrong.

If he does swallow at least one gallon of diesel fuel, I'm promising to offer him a nice cigar right afterward!

Date: 2011/01/24 12:29:41, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (the_ignored @ Jan. 24 2011,18:24)
Forgive me, but doesn't it seem that arguing with "Ftk" over abortion has gone slightly off the thread topic?

It clearly has, and maybe some mod (Wes, Lou, Kristine...) would be so kind as to split the topic?

Date: 2011/01/24 13:08:46, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (tsig @ Jan. 24 2011,18:51)
Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,00:10)
More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:    
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A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it.

I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider.

IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind.


Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection.

At last we know who the Intelligent Designer is...Shelob!!!

Well, you should go back to brushing up your Silmarillion.

Shelob is only a late offspring of Ungoliant, who sneaked through the Green Lands with Melkor/Morgoth to steal the Light out of the Trees, further hungering for the Silmarils...

So Ungoliant would be the designer. Yet, Ungoliant is a Mayar (might be mistaken on her rank among the Ainurs) and thus the direct product of the song writen by Eru Illuvatar and sang by the Ainurs.

in the end, Eru Illuvatar is the Designer of Arda and all that be.

I've always had love for Tolkien's fantasy. Not so much for the pale copy writen by this "god" guy...

Date: 2011/01/24 13:15:33, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 24 2011,19:09)
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Jan. 24 2011,04:35)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 24 2011,03:59)
FTK,
Should abortion be make illegal, what punishment would you deem appropriate for those who have illegal abortions?

Based on the "abortion is murder" reasoning, it should be a capital crime in death penalty states (like Kansas), right?  Premeditated murder of the tiny human being in her womb, right?  Ftk, should it be electric chair, lethal injection, hanging, or the firing squad?

Yeah, this is the thing for me. I've yet to hear anybody who supports removing the right to legal abortions say that the punishment for having one should be the death penalty.

Which is odd to me as it shows that there's an inconsistency in those peoples claims that they are either not aware of or don't want to face.

Anyway, sure, this is OT, but it's always OT when FTK is around  :p

In her defense (woot???) FTK never clearly proposed to remove anyone's right to abortion. She just stated her opinion.

But I admit it would be fun* to see a pro-life moron, screaming "death to the abortionists!!!".

Talk about logic...





*up to a point.

Date: 2011/01/24 13:29:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 24 2011,19:24)
oh consistency is a cruel mistress and you can't expect everyone to continue to pay her way into the movies.

BUT at least FtK is playing well with others this time for now.  For fuck's sake this recent round of trollbotting makes everyone else look fantastic.  FtK please chime in and tell Kris all about it.  the hubby, walt brown, hon, herons, noah and the boys, whatev.  he needs a good dose of your domesticated whatever it is.  glad you are still kicking!

Quote
whatev.


Did you actualy save typing time by removing 2 letters from a perfectly writable word?

Way to go Ras! great exemple for our (yet to be born) children!!!


:D

Date: 2011/01/24 14:52:38, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Happy to be help! :)

And the worst part is: I don't care much about Tolkien, although I know a bit about his work.

Ask about Pratchett now, that's an entirely different level! :p


ETA: When someone invoques a major piece of literature, one can't help but go in dephts about invoqued references. I don't know, it's just one of those things...

ETAA: And I have a sexual life!

Date: 2011/01/24 16:18:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 24 2011,22:08)
 
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 24 2011,06:50)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 24 2011,11:59)
Thanks Louis, new signature...

THAT is the best thing I wrote there? THAT?

Dammit I am off to start drinking heavily. ;-)

Louis


Hardly. The other stuff was sheer brilliance, but waaaaaaaay to long to use as a sig quote.

:p

This! With added emphasis! And sprinklers on top!

ETA: louis, just once again take a look at my top sig. Just sayin'... :)

Date: 2011/01/25 02:01:16, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Oh my FSM! He is a complete douche!

Well Kris, I've tried to be nice, polite, civil, so now I'm going for the other option:

Kris, go fuck yourself with a jackhammer!

Thanks.

Hugs.

Date: 2011/01/25 04:09:56, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
dheddle, I'd rather argue that you are a bit over-sensitive.

Yes, a fœtus is a potential human being. So is an ovum or a spermatozoid.

Sorry, but I don't feel sad every time I throw away the equivalent of the population of Netherlands after a good wanking. Also, I don't see my girlfriend as a mass murdering cannibal.

I hope you don't cry every month when your partner gets her period.

Until a baby is born and starts getting functional cognitive developpment, it is not, per say, a human being. A potential one, yes, but just as an ovum or a spermatozoid.

Which doesn't mean I, or ayone else here, don't understand your point of view, but please don't judge the morality of others based solely on your own feelings. Would you say a mortician or a forensic doctor are heartless because they do their job without feeling sad for the person they're working on?

Date: 2011/01/25 04:17:48, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
4. It is a ridiculous question because it requires a violation of the law of noncontraction, a law which, it is assumed, even applies to god. Put simply: if god is moral and the very north pole of moral compasses, and if eating babies is immoral in a certain context, then god would be literally incapable of commanding the eating of babies in that context.


That is total male bovine feces! You are "assuming" the law of noncontraction (noncontradiction, maybe?) even applies to god. Who the fuck are you to know that? Seriously? Isn't your god all powerful? Why then should he be subjected to any law?

And what the hell do you mean by "and if eating babies is immoral in a certain context"?!? In what context would it ever be moral to kill and eat babies?

And to finish, god would be incapable of doing something? the all-powerful, omnipotent god of the bible?!?

Get your shit together, dheddle. That's pure, unadulterated inconsistancy...

ETA: and basicaly the same as answer n°2, only poorly formulated...

Date: 2011/01/25 04:22:49, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
There is something I have missed being out of this arena for a while--has Dembski come out of the closet as a YEC?


Well, yes and no. From what I remember, he stated to be a YEC so as not to be kicked out of his job, or something. It's somewhere on this thread, a few pages back, I think...

Date: 2011/01/25 05:32:40, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Page turn bug...

Date: 2011/01/25 05:34:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
The feeling I have is more of repulsion and disgust, but that's just because I don't really like seeing blood. But it will never be a feeling of sadness, that's for sure...

Date: 2011/01/25 07:16:00, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Kris, why do you come here at all?

Nobody gives a shit about your antics, you are unable to correctly answer the simplest of questions, and are spewing more bullshit than a Texas ranch.

So I will finaly give you what you crave for: nobody here likes you, nobody here gives a fuck about your concern trolling, and the sooner you die, the better for the world.

There! now you can copy/paste this as much as you want on creosites to show how those evil science proponents are big meanies.

Go fuck yourself with a chainsam! You're not even funny anymore.

Date: 2011/01/25 07:40:44, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Wes: there is a not so bad but a bit annoying thing going on with PMs:

When I type a PM and click the "send" button without having entered a title for the message, it prompts me to do so.

Fine so far.

But when I get back to the message-typing page, after entering a title, the "send" button is grayed-out and I actually have to go back to the main message folder (after copying my message so it's not lost) and start the whole process again.

Is this normal?

Date: 2011/01/25 08:00:54, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
How can science always know what can be "tested" or what is possible before it's tested?


Well, Fuckface (hey, new nickname for you, but your stupidity deserves abuse), In order to know that, science has to test it. Right with you so far.

ID/Creationism has been around for a veeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrryyyyyy long time, and yet it's still untestable. Wishing it could be doesn't mean it will. It just means the greedy bastards using it to pulp the cash out of credulous morons are getting fuller pockets while said morons are cradling a fairytale.

Not much to do about that, except making sure these crackpots stay out of the school system.

So, who has to test the ID/creation "hypothesis"? Mainstream scientists, or the few rags who proposed it in the first place?

ID/Creationism is fine, takes many to make a world, but leave it the fuck out of schools or be prepared to get attcked and insulted, which is all you deserve!

Date: 2011/01/25 09:19:29, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Please disregard all my previous posts in support of FTK, I was wrong.

Maybe I should replace them with select passages from Anton Lavey's Satanic Bible...

Or LoLcats...

Or pics of dead fœtuses...

Too many choices!!!

Date: 2011/01/25 09:44:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (khan @ Jan. 25 2011,15:36)
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 25 2011,04:11)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 24 2011,21:43)
     
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 24 2011,20:49)
The point of commenting here is that I would like to think that even if I were pro-choice I would readily admit that PZ's comments were repulsive.

But, you clearly AREN'T pro-choice so projecting your own squik threshold on those who don't share your particular bias is rather pointless.

I happen to agree with PZ and you and other religiously motivated knicker twisters can get the vapours all you want. Just stay the fuck off of my fainting couch, you wankers.

You agree with him that pictures of mangled aborted fetuses inspire  no thoughts other than "it's just meat?".

For crying out loud, when I see a dead unborn bird (the egg fell) it makes me feel sad.  And that has nothing to do with religion.

Not you. Regardless of your stand on abortion, you can truly look at aborted fetuses with no metaphysical connection, even if only to the potential human whose parts are clearly recognizable, lying in a bloody heap? Even without ascribing any moral culpability to anyone, or even acknowledging that that there is any moral issue, even if the abortion was most straightforward inarguable case, (say, saving the life of a woman who was incestuously gang-raped) even then it would be the equivalent of looking at meat?  

Then, like PZ, you are also a cold-hearted scumbag with no empathy.

But none of that was my point, which was the speculation none of the other big-name atheists would be stupid enough to write what PZ wrote. They make names for themselves by their writing with style and class. PZ by does it by shocking.

Of course you didn't grasp what I was saying. All you did was the reflexive: religious person speaking--must disagree. Everything is good-guy/bad-guy.

So you know what? You can bite me, jackass.

http://www.abortionaccess.info/abortionpictures.htm

OMG Claudia!!! IT MAKES ME SOOO SAAAADD!!!

WHY, OH WHY DID YOU POST THAT HERE????????


Ahem, sorry 'bout that, please continue...

Date: 2011/01/25 10:06:25, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Page turn bug. Again...

Date: 2011/01/25 12:03:19, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Why do you care if they build a creation museum? If few to no people were interested in what's in the creation museum, it wouldn't stay open for long. You must think that enough people will be interested to keep it open. What does that tell you?


Man (?), are you fucking stupid! You don't give a fuck about science, you are nothing more than a puny little conern troll. You are accusing the scientific community and its supporters of giving a bad image of science, yet you don't really care if some religious nutjob builds a waky museum and passes it as a science exhibit.

Go fuck yourself with a complete set of ornamental silver candle-holders! With extra pebbles for lubrification!

Date: 2011/01/25 12:15:09, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 25 2011,18:00)
Off Topic, and mostly for my pal Richard Hughes:

my son (who is autistic) on youtube.

You can bump this proud daddy to the BW, but he will not be deterred!

I don't really see what this has to do with the current discussion, but I will say this:

You're son is a Master! To have his left hand skills I would give...well... my right hand!

Thanks a thousand for the link, I'll watch it again a few times in absolute awe...

Date: 2011/01/25 12:31:53, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Let's say for a moment, that we all lived the life....one man/one woman forever Amen.

That imediately does away with virtually all std's and the vast, vast majority of all unwanted pregnancies.  Not all....but most.  And, we'd have those little babies anyway and work things out.  

Lifestyle....period.


And a big (huge) part of the population would either cheat on their spouse or commit suicide out of depression and/or repressed sexual needs.

FTK, YOUR view is not EVERYONE'S view. We have agreed on that. If you think the world would be wonderful and everyone would be pissing brandy and crapping plum-pudding if they behaved the way you think they should, that's your own problem, not ours. And it's totaly human.

I would have a miserable life if I didn't have the sexual openness I have. Don't get me wrong, I have a steady (and lovely, in case she reads this) girlfriend, and I don't ever cheat on her. But I also have had periods in my life when I was single and just wanted to have fun. Always protected, of course, because I'm not a dumbass and I got educated about these things.

In fact, I think my last sentence alone would suffice to burry your argument about STDs and unwanted pregnancy. So just keep that last one in mind, since it meets your own (public) wishes...

Date: 2011/01/25 12:44:08, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 25 2011,18:42)
yes but not for that.  for the cats

Massive LOL right there!

Date: 2011/01/25 12:47:12, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Even 'ol SD has fallen into the one man/one woman.  It's what works in the end.  


Hey FTK, don't get carried away!

if Ali was into all that moresome hot steamy stuff, we'd be out shagging a whole college dorm right now. She's just not into it, and I'm loving and gentlemanly enough to put her at the top of my priorities.

I live well with that, because she allows me to watch porn and wank as much as I want when needed.*



*TMI?

Date: 2011/01/25 12:51:06, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Where does one even start?

And weren't we talking about REACTIONS TO PHOTOS, FTK? Weren't you the one who complained (wrongly) about the errors of others for ascribing an inconsistent position to you?

So the people who are the Dahmer-esque sub-humans are not the ones who do not share your reaction to a photo, but the people who have an abortion now? You're being more than a little inconsistent FTK. I've bolded your claim in the quoted post above. Support that claim.

You said that people who looked at a photo and didn't feel a set of feelings you described yourself as feeling were Dahmeresque sub-humans and only felt that way because of their lifestyle. Let me give you a hint, the set of people who do not share your reaction to those sorts of photos are not necessarily the same as the set of people who have had abortions. You are talking about two different sets of people.

To clarify this even more for you, it is possible for, say, a single, celibate pathologist to look at photos of dimembered foetuses with a greater degree of dispassion than you and to have never had, or been responsible for, a pregnancy that was deliberately terminated by abortion. Thus the set of people who have had abortions does not include the set of people who have different reactions to your own when presented with those photographs. Lifestyle? I think not.

It is equally possible for a promiscuous person, who has had many abortions, or been responsible for many pregnancies which ended in abortions, to have precisely the visceral, emotional reaction to those photos you do. Thus the set of people who have the same reactions to these photos as you does not include the set of people who have not had abortions. Lifestyle again? In a word: no.

Your tedious moralising is as unexamined and bigotted as your life.

Louis


This, right here, sums it up very nicely. I would push for PotW for the simple fact that it's simple, effective, unbiased, and Louis paid me to do so...

So... PotW?

Date: 2011/01/25 12:55:42, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote
Or maybe because you are very, very careful never to actually say anything that could be taken as a position one way or another.

Only thing worse than a hypocrite is a chicken who won't take a stand.


Let the troll get his kick-in. He probably thinks he's found the ultimate loophole in interwebs reasoning. The schumck* is pathetic!





*Sorry schumcks everywhere, didn't mean to offend.

Date: 2011/01/25 13:02:27, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 25 2011,18:59)
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO

DONT TELL HER TO NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!!!111ONE1








Sorry, been working out this morning, low blood-sugar, etc...

Date: 2011/01/25 13:12:20, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 25 2011,19:10)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 25 2011,12:59)
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO

lmfao.  That there is funny.  

See there?  

Now, Eramus is a TOTAL ass, but how can I possibly not love him?

At least he's our ass!


Wait, that didn't come out right...

Date: 2011/01/25 13:19:15, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
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Don't fuck with me: I've debugged COBOL in hex.


O_o genuinely impressed. I don't know what a COBOL is or what hex does (appart from Prtachettian universe)...

Date: 2011/01/25 14:02:57, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 25 2011,19:21)
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,12:30)
Well, because of your biased, preconceived belief that anyone who questions you, disagrees with you, points out your hypocrisy and dishonesty or other flaws, or doesn't eagerly join your gang, is the enemy.

Just because somebody is not your enemy does not automatically mean you want them to be your friend.

If that person, for example, was a right dick then perhaps you'd not want to hang around with them.

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If that person, for example, was a right dick then perhaps you'd not want to hang around with them.


Is there a slight hint aimed at Kris there?

Date: 2011/01/25 14:13:59, Link
Author: Schroedinger's Dog
I always wondered, is C