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Date: 2008/11/23 14:13:08, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 23 2008,09:49)
Who's afraid of Abbie Smith?  
     
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This site still has moderators, as it happens, and none of them fancy troll holes.

Incidentally, hearing that Abbie Smith and/or Nick Matzke “completely destroyed” Mike Behe’s thesis is like hearing that some communist ideologue “completely destroyed” the Laffer curve (Laffer’s thesis on taxation).

It tells me something about Communist ideology, nothing much about the Laffer curve.

The interesting thing about Darwinism is that it is now represented so largely by cultists who are prepared to acribe miracles - even the massive intricacy of the cell - to it.

Funny that Denyse would compare Behe's thesis to the Laffer curve.  Neither idea has empirical support.


Olegt,
While the various interpretations of the so-called Laffer curve may indeed be laffable, it seems to me (all three ganglia which recall any of the math I long ago tried to learn???) that the curve itself is quite straightforward. Tax revenue will probably -- even self-evidently -- be a positive-valued, continuous function of tax rates, and it seems to be reasonably self-evident, also, that its value will be at least close to zero at the end points of 0 and 100 % tax rate but higher at intermediate values. It follows, from one of the more intuitive lemmas which I regretfully cannot exactly recall at this time (Rolle's, wasn't it?) that the function must have a maximum somewhere in between those end points.

So far, no big mystery. Eminently suitable for a napkin scrawl.

The problem arises, as they always will, when mathematically challenged yahoos try to interpret an elegant formula into a model void of contact with reality. Alas, Dr Laffer happened to be in the company of such trigger-happy shoot-from-the-hip new-economy-cowboys at one of the times when he scribbled down his curve on a cocktail napkin, and they immediately loaded their shotguns with it and fired at random.

One of the great tragedies of our time is, it seems to me, that many macro-economists have had just a little, but not quite enough, contact with mathematical theory -- just enough to misunderstand and misappropriate it and create a whooping monster of policy upon that basis.

A little less, or a little more, learning on those politicians' part, and also, again, a bit less of the gung-ho yabetcha I'm always right mentality, could have made all the difference in the world.

More or less literally!

Date: 2008/12/06 15:17:49, Link
Author: Rrr
Hir Majesty? Oh nose! :(
Or didja mean H&M the apparelco?

Date: 2008/12/06 15:23:47, Link
Author: Rrr
Ra-Úl:
Rolloff, Oloff, Pizzoff, Burgeroff, Licenceoff, whatever.  ;)

Date: 2008/12/06 15:54:59, Link
Author: Rrr
Thank you for the link, Khan.
And apologies for previous flippancy.

Date: 2008/12/13 04:07:25, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 12 2008,13:49)
 
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Gildodgen: Even a Hello World program is beyond the reach of chance and selection. See my UD essay here.

Hmm. GilDodgen made the same claim on Telic Thoughts.

 
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GilDodgen: That was the main point of my essay, that combinatorics produce such huge numbers so quickly and totally swamp islands of function. My 66-character program, assuming only the 26 lower-case letters, produces 2.4 x 10^93 possible outcomes, or the number of subatomic particles in 10 trillion universes.

In fact, the C programming language is case sensitive and uses all 92 characters on a standard keyboard, which produces 4 x 10^129 possible combinations in a 66-character program, or the number of subatomic particles in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 universes.

I responded on that thread.

 
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Zachriel: "Hello World" in machine language (8086) can be as small as 26 eight-bit bytes, including the 11 bytes for the message. For the non-message part of the program, and making the big assumption that it is the only conceivable functional program of that size, we have 1 in 64^(26-11) * or one in a couple thousand moles.

Furthermore,

 
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Zachriel: Messages can be as short as a single word, which can be as short as a single letter or two. So all we really need is the basic 11-byte machine code. We can show that the message itself can evolve to longer lengths, given suitable selection criteria.

So, either GilDodgen didn't read the replies to his comment, or forgot already.



* Correction: The base of the exponent should be 256, not 64. The program is 11 bytes long, so it should be 256^11. The string is "Hello, World!" If we include the end-string character as part of the program, then we have 256^12 equivalent to the molecules in a couple of tons of water, still somewhat less than 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 universes.

J.B. Calvert's "Hello, World!"


Wow,  Zachriel, those BIG numbers are really hard to get a grip on! The littler ones, I can kinda fathom, if I take my socks off, and it seems to me you might have gotten them on backwards. You imply that the message "Hello World" is 11 characters and thus infer that the length of the program must be 15. Pretty soon you say, however, that the program is 11 bytes.

It doesn't really change the validity of your arrrghument though, in the bigger picture.

So here I go, imagining being able to count the number of observable universes without even taking my mitts off...  ;)

Date: 2008/12/13 07:22:08, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 13 2008,06:54)
Quote (Rrr @ Dec. 13 2008,12:07)
Quote (Zachriel @ Dec. 12 2008,13:49)
   
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Gildodgen: Even a Hello World program is beyond the reach of chance and selection. See my UD essay here.

Hmm. GilDodgen made the same claim on Telic Thoughts.

   
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GilDodgen: That was the main point of my essay, that combinatorics produce such huge numbers so quickly and totally swamp islands of function. My 66-character program, assuming only the 26 lower-case letters, produces 2.4 x 10^93 possible outcomes, or the number of subatomic particles in 10 trillion universes.

In fact, the C programming language is case sensitive and uses all 92 characters on a standard keyboard, which produces 4 x 10^129 possible combinations in a 66-character program, or the number of subatomic particles in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 universes.

I responded on that thread.

   
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Zachriel: "Hello World" in machine language (8086) can be as small as 26 eight-bit bytes, including the 11 bytes for the message. For the non-message part of the program, and making the big assumption that it is the only conceivable functional program of that size, we have 1 in 64^(26-11) * or one in a couple thousand moles.

Furthermore,

   
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Zachriel: Messages can be as short as a single word, which can be as short as a single letter or two. So all we really need is the basic 11-byte machine code. We can show that the message itself can evolve to longer lengths, given suitable selection criteria.

So, either GilDodgen didn't read the replies to his comment, or forgot already.



* Correction: The base of the exponent should be 256, not 64. The program is 11 bytes long, so it should be 256^11. The string is "Hello, World!" If we include the end-string character as part of the program, then we have 256^12 equivalent to the molecules in a couple of tons of water, still somewhat less than 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 universes.

J.B. Calvert's "Hello, World!"


Wow,  Zachriel, those BIG numbers are really hard to get a grip on! The littler ones, I can kinda fathom, if I take my socks off, and it seems to me you might have gotten them on backwards. You imply that the message "Hello World" is 11 characters and thus infer that the length of the program must be 15. Pretty soon you say, however, that the program is 11 bytes.

It doesn't really change the validity of your arrrghument though, in the bigger picture.

So here I go, imagining being able to count the number of observable universes without even taking my mitts off...  ;)

You r hvng a mithless exponrtial reductionist moment. Adjust your beer jug.
Take a left nipple and enjoy before going for the obvious.
Or if taht duznt work hek ..... urrrm repaeat\\\

Thanky. I thinky.

Date: 2008/12/15 10:18:03, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 15 2008,09:29)
my neighbor counts the days out with pencil marks on the walls.  
...>8... looong snippage
that's about how it goes anyway.

And you shit us not, you say?

Date: 2008/12/15 11:33:01, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 15 2008,10:52)
Quote (Rrr @ Dec. 15 2008,10:18)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 15 2008,09:29)
my neighbor counts the days out with pencil marks on the walls.  
...>8... looong snippage
that's about how it goes anyway.

And you shit us not, you say?

and then some my friend.

So I guess that explains why you see to prefer hanging out in this ... um ... sanitary place, then. Comparative sanity? Sanitarier? Sanitory janitor ...

Here, hold this plunger while I go fetch my crayons. This wall needs more markup makeup. BRB   <:O

Date: 2008/12/16 15:43:08, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 16 2008,13:33)
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But the whole "brain as radio" analogy that gets trotted out in support of dualism, well, it's stupid.


The more you examine, in detail, the effects of localized brain damage, the stupider it gets.

What, the Brian? I'm late for bed probably ...  :p

Date: 2008/12/28 17:14:29, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 28 2008,05:04)
Quote (khan @ Dec. 27 2008,21:10)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,21:09)
 
Quote (khan @ Dec. 18 2008,20:23)
   
Quote (khan @ Dec. 18 2008,15:29)
I have fucking SAD; I fell down on the fucking ice and my left fucking hand is now fucking useless.

Going to spend a fucking day or so wallowing in fucking self pity.

Aleve or alcohol?

The swelling is going down, there is less pain, the hand almost works.

That's good to hear, Khan.

If anyone cares:

More than a week later and the pain is pretty much gone and I can do most things again.

That's really really good to hear, Khan!

Hear, hear.
Get even better new year, and next year.  :)

Date: 2009/01/11 12:12:56, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 10 2009,22:52)
Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 10 2009,22:39)
 
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GilDodgen: Seversky et. al.,

I’ve lost interest in posting when I’m one of the few on this forum who uses his real name. Google Gil Dodgen or GilDodgen. I accept the vitriol but will not be an anonymous Internet coward.

Give your real name or admit you’re a coward. Put up or shut up.

I scanned Seversky's comments, but didn't see any vitriol. The thread is about atheism, so Seversky's comments seem on-topic. What is GilDodgen concerned about?

I agree with Gil. BA77, Ftk, SloppyGoose Finch, Tribune, Gordon Mullings kairosfucus, Uptight Bitard, angryoldfathead, and the rest of you Christofascist bozos... You heard the man. Post your real names or admit you're spineless cowards.

Ii too agree, Louu. What's the point of using suedanyms anyway? If somebody wants to sue, they'll sue da nyms anyway. Well, that's the way I see it. Maybe that makes me a one-eyed natch-patch, but I don't care.

Rrr

Date: 2009/01/13 13:18:57, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Marion Delgado @ Jan. 11 2009,15:09)
Point out that the theory of grading is just that - a theory!

Cheeze thanks you!

Or maybe my speelings' off? Appoplexies if i hert yer pheelings.
;)

Date: 2009/01/15 07:48:35, Link
Author: Rrr
Bill & Louis:
I don't really wish to defend Daniel on any count, but I do not parse that particular quote the same way as you seem to do. (Alas, I fail to find the original myself, the search reports two results but refers me to the whole board index page itself. So I can't reference Danny's context. I even thumbed back ten days and ten pages...)

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 15 2009,04:55)
When confronted with something like Danny's

   
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I like scientists who are laughed at and shunned by the majority. The majority are usually just empty headed sheep anyway. The majority just loves pablum. Always has, always will.


I'm honestly at a loss.

Anyway, in the part shown here I'm not sure he means the majority of scientists (which would indeed be slanderous). Perhaps he is talking of as well as to himself? :-)

Srry.

Date: 2009/01/15 08:34:16, Link
Author: Rrr
Thanks, Oldman! I never thought to go back quite that far :-) Ten days seemed long enough for my poor ctrl-F-inger, let alone 6000 years or all the way back to 2007/09/27 05:30:39

Date: 2009/01/15 11:18:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Thank you, J-Dog. I couldn't be sure witch was witch. No I now.

(Somebody put a spelling oon mee!)

Date: 2009/01/15 13:40:01, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 15 2009,13:04)
So, of course Mr. Murphy rears his ugly head, and just before the Science Online conference I have come down with the cold from hell.

Has anyone ever tried using a pipette through the ear canal to remove vast quantities of head stopping snot? Is it necessarily fatal, or just highly probable? What if I just use a micropipette? Does that improve the odds at all?

I'd like to apply Dr. Dr. D's super secret ID odds calculator thing to this problem, but a search of the literature seems to come up empty on the exact calculations. Is there a slide rule or something I have to buy? Decoder ring?

Soddy to hear aboud Br Burphy.

Maybe see a ('single') doctor (of medicine)?

I think there are some OTC drugs in the US that may give some relief, like Theraflu, Sudafed and the usual anti-inflammatories. (Theraflu is IIRC simply a ready-made mix of such.) And plenty of warm stuff to drink, like a hot toddy of OJ, honey and ginger. Sometimes eating stuff with chili pepper or similar seems to loosen up my sinuses. Avoid having cold feet. If you must apply onion or garlic earally, DO NOT CRUSH THEM FIRST! Makes the stuff Very Difficult to get rid of. And it hurts.

Hot brandy with butter is supposed to help against cough -- it's so horrid you'd rather get well in a hurry!

But, again, don't listen to me at all -- other than to get advice from a Real Doc!

Gesundheit!

Date: 2009/01/15 13:59:33, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 15 2009,12:46)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 15 2009,12:29)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2009,13:26)
 
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The rules of ID already strongly resemble MC.


ID has rules?

Just one: "Don't say God".

But there are LOTS of corollaries....

#1.  Don't Touch Teh Sweater

#2.  Everybody is out to get us.

#3.  It's a Big Tent, so don't ask questions.

I can haz Epic Fany? AHA!

Big Tent - Big Sweater - Big Secret around ID of De DR DesigneR Dimself.

Date: 2009/01/16 07:42:52, Link
Author: Rrr
It has become increasingly clear to me that Daniel is proud to be a minority of one and has little but disdain for a majority which for example deprecates the use of rare and proscribed ivory as building material for high-rise abodes such as his own.

Now, if he could at least stay put in there...

But no, he has to come out regularly and holler from his minaret. Like it were some Swiss clock or something. And then he has the temerity to demand respect, on top of all that!

I'll just try and stop winding him up.

Date: 2009/01/16 10:20:24, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 16 2009,05:55)
Hmmm, for some reason the copying and pasting I did above with the full rules of MC and the full research output of ID seems to have gone wrong.

I'll get onto our technical department and get back to you.

Sorry for any inconvenience, but they will both be published any day now, I assure you.

Louis

Thanks, but I did get the gist of it. Just ran the muse across, and the complete wisdom appeared like majik. (I can has Noble sharez?)

Spiritus ex machina!

(Hope I spoiled no joke by misstake; if so please delete)

Date: 2009/01/16 13:04:56, Link
Author: Rrr
Apeologies for not discoqualifie. Do not delete my epic fany?

Date: 2009/01/16 15:04:55, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 16 2009,12:10)
Quote (BWE @ Jan. 16 2009,14:43)
Thanks Wes for being relatively sane.

I just wanted to drop in a say that.

Bye. :)

Enquiring minds want to know:

What the hell's this about?

Louis

P.S. I never knew Wes' sanity was in doubt!

Might have been in reference to this. Though ISTR somebody claiming to have stopped worrying about the more blazing idiots for hir bloodpressure's sake. May have been someone completely different OTOH.

Anyhow. Where's the harm in agreeing with BWE on Wes' relative sanity?

We thank you for it, Wes!
There you go. Any other takers...?

Date: 2009/01/16 15:11:46, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 16 2009,14:05)
Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 16 2009,13:58)
The Resistance strikes its first blow!

Now everyone hold hands and pray for the success of our atheist friends.

Those crazy Brits!  There has got to be a Benny Hill in here somewhere....

If only God would create a miracle and allow him to drive his bus over the Atlantic to the Flintstone Museum!

If God were in a really miraculous mode He might inspire Ron to leave the bus at the depo and just leg it across instead. It's been reported before, right?

From other comments I gather many passengers are enough frustrated as it is with the bus service and might take further offence if they were to be shanghaied to a place so far from their destination.

Date: 2009/01/16 15:17:10, Link
Author: Rrr
Not quite the right likeness, Carlsonjok. The beard is different and my pose is generally more primatesque. Anyway, this isn't the bathroom, is it?

I like the portrait, though. Thanks!

Date: 2009/01/16 15:21:15, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (khan @ Jan. 15 2009,22:45)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2009,23:24)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 15 2009,19:26)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2009,15:19)
     
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Thou shalt fleece the rubes


By pulling the wool over their eyes?

I'm surprised no one has previously offered this explanation of Bill's Sweater.

I always assumed that sweater was a polyester blend from the bargain bin at K-Mart.

I thought 'the sweater' was hand knit by a female relative.

Can someone here reverse engineer and reproduce 'the sweater'?

Crap, I'm willing to pay for it.

The price is probably sweatier and bloodier. Don't bother, don't gother.

Date: 2009/01/18 15:15:18, Link
Author: Rrr
I once overheard two of the most powerful politicians in Stockholm (apologies for the oblique MC reference) while one asked the other: "Remind me, whose wife was it that must always be above suspicion?" and got the swift reply: "Lot's, I think?"

Just to add insult to injury, I happen to frequent Alvik T-station.

Don't forget to tip the waitress while I get my coat -- is that on the kosher line?

Date: 2009/01/18 15:17:55, Link
Author: Rrr
Oh, and Turkish. Dutch, not as a majuscule but often where two vowels meet.

I'll be in the bath now. (Brushing my teeth, of course. What did you "guys" expect?

Date: 2009/01/18 15:19:31, Link
Author: Rrr
Sharpness is often overrated. So I hear. A lot.

Date: 2009/01/18 16:21:44, Link
Author: Rrr
Oh I knew it was Caesar's wife, only I didn't know her first name. Bet you weren't in Rome nor Gomorrah, anyway, either! Or Alvik for that matter.

Date: 2009/01/26 04:25:06, Link
Author: Rrr
Well duh. If teh lord hadn't loved linearity so much, she wouldn't have made all the world flat, see? QED.

Date: 2009/01/27 12:47:41, Link
Author: Rrr
For a second or two, I wondered what semi-transparent mirrors had to do with the Bathroom Wall...
:-o

Date: 2009/01/28 13:24:05, Link
Author: Rrr
Mais oui. Le Pinque Pendant.
Watch out for le Big Bumb.

Date: 2009/01/28 13:25:32, Link
Author: Rrr
Apologies, Arden. I assure you it was not my intention to bump into you.

Date: 2009/01/28 14:35:28, Link
Author: Rrr
Thx for taking it all in good humour.

Date: 2009/01/30 12:53:01, Link
Author: Rrr
What, hump de hump? No, this is too far beyond me.

Maybe I should try that "work" you'se talkin' bout fer a while. But, it's Friday. What to do.

Date: 2009/02/01 05:16:07, Link
Author: Rrr
And Blackwater by any colour...

No, that wasn't very funny either was it.

Anyway, according to municipal planning rules where I come from, grey water is the waste from sink, bath and washing while black water is the complete dump. The two kinds of refuse need different standards of treatment before releasing into the recipient water body.

Date: 2009/02/01 08:00:07, Link
Author: Rrr
Thanks, Bob, but I find this place quite edificational. Learns me a lot of knew stuff.

Date: 2009/02/01 11:27:44, Link
Author: Rrr
Hey, but that is easily done if it's on the order of your IQ.

BTW, what is the meaning of that ^character?

Date: 2009/02/01 11:35:26, Link
Author: Rrr
So, just another brand of guano.

Teh speling off worlds is a see riots matter
Butt I jest don kerr cos I'm made as a hatter

Thats Alf ortho nite faux
Goldlock,
Sea ewe latte

Date: 2009/02/01 12:44:37, Link
Author: Rrr
Thanks, but I meant the one that goes before the IQ figure: "10^80, 10^79, 10^60" etc. Does it make his IQ bigger or less? Me, i can't compute that high so I quite understand if he gets confused tool.

Date: 2009/02/01 12:45:43, Link
Author: Rrr
Sorry, didn't mean to call Dave a Tool. Pure typo.

Date: 2009/02/02 02:47:39, Link
Author: Rrr
Allow a simple layperson to add a penny here.

Daniel's recent lament, after all the very detailed answers he has been ever so patiently given,
   
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I said from the very beginning that I could not explain how God built life.  Science cannot explain it either.  The truth is (despite all you protests to the contrary) science cannot explain any of it - not even the simplest living systems.  If it could, you (or one of your friends) would surely post an example of it here.  The fact that you cannot is the real issue here Bill.

reminds me of the great Tom Lehrer who said, in between songs on a show of which I used to have an LP record*, something along these lines:
   
Quote

It seems to me a lot of characters in recent books, plays -- and in real life, I might add -- spend hours and hours bemoaning the fact that they can't communicate. Well, I feel that if a person can't communicate, THE VERY LEAST THEY SHOULD DO IS TO SHUT UP!
*That Was The Year That Was

Date: 2009/02/03 08:07:34, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote
Enquiring minds want to know FTK. Which way are you flouncing today?

Louis

WHOA now Louis. Watch where you step. You are not insinuating that F the Kids is one of those bi-flouncies, are you? If nothing else, think of the poor beebee geese!

It's been awfully quiet in here hasn't it?

Date: 2009/02/04 11:40:52, Link
Author: Rrr
Congratulations! Hope it doesn't mean bad luck outside thetheaters. In that case, go break a leg. On someone.

And don't heed advice from frothykids, by some accounts she has a veritable baby-gun and is not so fond of the stork.

Do you have to be a man now and make up the household's spirit consumption singlehandedly?

Date: 2009/02/09 17:04:07, Link
Author: Rrr
Hey, no wonder you look a bit worn out in teh pix !^)
Quote
flat latex, ... sponged on Merlot

Date: 2009/02/09 17:40:25, Link
Author: Rrr
Sweet dreams, man.
And rosy red...

Date: 2009/02/24 09:53:07, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote
As for morel decay, it's best to cook them in butter and flame them in brandy no more than 24 hours after picking.  Otherwise, you're right, they'll decay.  But, I know about morel decay, so, what's your point?

Um, not being a botanist nor a natural Anglophone but presuming you refer to the fungus, Doc Bill, I feel a warning is called for here.

Those mushrooms, which look a bit like someone's rotting brain, contain a toxic and carcinogenous substance. Therefore it used to be recommended to either dry them (in a place where people would not be exposed to the fumes) or thoroughly and repeatedly soak them in plenty of water for hours, or preferably both, before cooking and consuming them, and not too often. Modern official wisdom seems to be to avoid any consumption at all.

They do taste good, though! And they come out in Spring, unlike most other edible fungi where I live.

Date: 2009/02/24 13:28:32, Link
Author: Rrr
Traditional apologies for auto-response.
Deeper (slightly; wikipedia:)) study highlights two possible mistakes of mine.

1. Doc Bill may have been referring to some kind of solanum, a family containing not only tomato and potato but also a number of other more or less edible plants, often replete in "alkaloids" such as solanine and atropine, which are pretty poisonous. Don't know how that is influenced by burning buttered brandy, though. Forgive me if I abstain from experiments.

2. My cursory examination of a hand dictionary turned up the same phrase for not only Toppmurkla, Morchella conica but also Stenmurkla, Gyromitra esculenta or False morel, which has indeed been recently found* to be more poisonous than previously thought. Christer Andersson: Stenmurklan - olämplig att äta. Toxikologiska enheten, Livsmedelsverket. (In Swedish, sorry.)

3. Finally I must make it absolutely clear that my reference to rotting brains had nothing whatsoever to do with any participant in this particular discussion, and it was certainly not intended to be taken as an insinuation about any person's spongiform encephalopathy.
  :O
*by hydrolysis with hydrocloric acid :-) to release all of the hydrazine compounds

Date: 2009/02/25 03:14:46, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 25 2009,03:07)
Is Denial really Thomas Cudworth?
 
Quote
I don’t want to hear, for the umpteenth time, how a light-sensistive spot might have retreated into a depression, and then could have been accidentally covered over by some semi-transparent skin which later could have become a lens, etc. I want to see specific mechanisms for all of these changes in terms of particular point mutations along the genome, and related developmental changes. I want to see checkable numbers given for mutation rates, I want full lists of ecological competitors inhabiting the Ordovician ocean, I want accurate CO2 and ultra-violet levels and other relevant environmental data over the period of time in question, etc. Most such details are lacking in Darwinian accounts. We can’t test the efficacy of RM + NS if we don’t have precise information regarding both the mutation side and the selection side.

an-open-challenge-to-neo-darwinists-what-would-it-take-to-falsify-your-theory/
If not, they are brothers in tard.

I doubt that.  ;) Denial is hardly worth cud. ;)

Brothers? Well, the same kind, it certainly seems.

Date: 2009/03/09 13:45:23, Link
Author: Rrr
Wow.
That was a bulls... eye?
So how come its in the garrbarche?

Date: 2009/03/10 18:17:27, Link
Author: Rrr
Gottabe kukumber, as we say in teh Swedishish.
no nevermind.

Date: 2009/03/11 16:28:59, Link
Author: Rrr
So finally, all that training at UD et al pays off, eh? You seem to have evolved an ability to separate precious few gems from a big heap of chaff, if I may mix my semaphores a little here.

Congratulations!

Date: 2009/03/12 09:30:39, Link
Author: Rrr
Hey Erasmus, aren't you humming a bit out of tune?    
Quote
Evolution can't explain why A = 440 mHZ.

Your fiddle must be quite the wrong size for standard classics.
 :D

Date: 2009/03/14 12:50:09, Link
Author: Rrr
Well, obviously a smith is as good as a jones; unless one is a Welsh off course.

And Now for Something Completely Different.

Date: 2009/03/14 15:25:36, Link
Author: Rrr
Occome on. He's in a lather already. Just rinse, and repeat.
Cut to the chase, Dan.

Date: 2009/03/15 16:40:59, Link
Author: Rrr
Oh my. Is this the classical Friday Meltdown we are beholding? If so, it must have involved some kind of time machine. Tardies, isn't it, the lot of them.

And with all this verse-atility also, the classics do go knee deep indeed. Bardies, isn't it, the lot of them.

Had I but a mind to mine, akin to thine, I might open a bard'o'mine.
To quote, tu quoque, perchance to dream?

Yo, Rick. I blame thee for this overdose. Good night, sweet Prince.
Say, was Dave after all a true Scot?
(apologies to the innocents)

Date: 2009/03/22 14:03:55, Link
Author: Rrr
Clive & let Clive.
Is that his mott-oh? Hardly. Or maybe.
If their mental suicide were personal, it would'nt matter so much.
Hey Clive, you ever been to Jonestown? Did you get a discount return ticket?

Date: 2009/03/22 15:09:00, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 22 2009,13:50)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 22 2009,13:48)
 
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 22 2009,14:46)
Shame there won't be a double act with DaveScot!
He must be out there somewhere laughing his ass off.

Gotta ask you there RB.

Why was I banned?  Any idea?  Are Joseph and Clive "good friends"?

Somewhere?
Scooty Puff, Jr

Date: 2009/03/22 16:06:07, Link
Author: Rrr
Herm, isn't that a criminal offence? Making physical threats, I mean. Did you consider siccing the law on clive for it? If he is an "official" "moderator" he must be discoverable, right? Is there no law for homeland safety and contra trrrsts?

Date: 2009/03/22 16:07:00, Link
Author: Rrr
Sorry, I guess I mean Joe, not clive.

Date: 2009/03/23 06:10:15, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 23 2009,00:06)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 23 2009,01:01)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 22 2009,16:54)
 
Quote (Rrr @ Mar. 22 2009,16:06)
Herm, isn't that a criminal offence? Making physical threats, I mean. Did you consider siccing the law on clive for it? If he is an "official" "moderator" he must be discoverable, right? Is there no law for homeland safety and contra trrrsts?

I was certainly scared, as those here who witnessed those times can attest.  I gave up at the time, which may have been a bit cowardly of me.  But it sure freaked me out, and still does a bit even to talk about it.

He threatend to come round 'with his boys'. We later found out it was a bingo club...

Yeah when they lose an argument they behave like the Nazi SS.

Reminiscent of the Dover aftermath.

ID= zero science If peer review produces an adverse finding, go around and threaten their betters

ID=zero theology Totally disregard the tenants of their so called religion,go around and terrorize their betters

ID= Identity Politics Completely disregard rule of law and resort to thuggery

If Clive had the faintest glimmer of a conscience he would ban Joseph  for good and report him to the Police.

To me it seems the SA is a more apt simile: uncouth yobs running the streets at the beck and call of their (even) more cowardly commanders, who stay in the background and pull the strings. Also, ostentatiously motivated by religious fervour, although not sincerely so.

And while we are on the subject of N*zis, I think you mean tenets, not tenants :-) but who knows who is subletting to whom.

Apart from that, you nailed it k.e.

Again, isn't there a whole Gubbbermnt Department with the sole task of protecting the sweet people from religiously motivated maniacs threatening violence, aka trrrst?

Hey Joseph, I'm talking about you here. You'd be dearer if you departed. Might even learn an honest trade in jail, what? That UD site, you sure done fixt it worse than it was broken before. Clive, same thing: Needs (re)education.

Date: 2009/03/23 10:52:16, Link
Author: Rrr
Anybody else get 404 on this page?

Date: 2009/03/23 10:54:09, Link
Author: Rrr
Good thing I never posted on the previous page though.

Date: 2009/03/23 11:18:49, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 23 2009,11:03)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 23 2009,06:22)
kairosfocus has added quasi-latching to "implicit latching."  I missed that expansion of our vocabulary earlier.

Apparently he thinks the algorithm works by measuring ASCII proximity to the final result. Of course, none of that is necessary. And we know from the author that that's not how it works.

Ah, but that presupposes that one knows something about Teh Author, see? It's not as if He left us a note explaining what He'd done or anything, you know?

Oh wait. Wait. I get this dizzy spell now and then. This time it is rather intense and quite debilitating. Excuse me for a whine.

Keep on teaching the Parade Oxe!

Date: 2009/03/23 11:26:21, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 23 2009,11:17)
uh-oh. JoeZilla is now cranky and on a rampage in NeoPaleyville:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-309462

Well, he must be feeling a little challenged as one of the prime-ates (for breakfast) and as we can observe he is under a spelling dizz right now. Also.

Notable is his suggestion concerning what to do with books, though:  
Quote
I provided you with a list of books.

Read them.

Is he some new kind of nazi?

Date: 2009/03/23 14:36:17, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 23 2009,11:57)
Quote (Rrr @ Mar. 23 2009,11:26)
Notable is his suggestion concerning what to do with books, though:      
Quote
I provided you with a list of books.

Read them.

Is he some new kind of nazi?

No, he seems to be the standard kind. Consult your baraminology text for details.

Albie, my chosen nym is onomatopoetical. It represents the sound of weighty points zipping by right over my head. Thanks, anyway :-) I rest my book case.

Date: 2009/04/03 14:59:39, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ April 03 2009,14:00)
Quote (Hermagoras @ April 03 2009,11:00)
 
Quote
The Iowa Supreme Court this morning upheld a Polk County judge’s 2007 ruling that marriage should not be limited to one man and one woman.
...

They want to allow several of each? :p

Wasn't that used to be a whole nother four-letter state with a, like, totally different grunt to it?

Date: 2009/05/04 01:58:14, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Quack @ May 03 2009,11:10)
IIRC, 40 days it took to flood the Earth, but many more days had to be spent sailing the waves.

Impressive! Even more so than Paris, 1959. Provided, of course, that you do remember correctly...
:-)

Date: 2009/05/20 12:51:38, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 20 2009,11:54)
No, no, no! Question marks don't get decorated  with lousy "1's". It gets the full monty and abuse of the common coma!

like???,,,,,??,,????,coma,,coma???

Got it???coma??coma??,,

Right!

Comment??,,
HALP. I'm falling into that coma trap!!111,,?
Snooorrt

Date: 2009/05/23 09:37:37, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (JLT @ May 23 2009,05:07)
 
Quote
93

Clive Hayden

05/23/2009

12:28 am

beelzebub,

——”As an imperfect human, you can never be absolutely certain that a particular belief is true.”

You’re absolutely certain that as an imperfect human you can never be absolutely certain. Nice.

——”All beliefs should be held provisionally.”

You don’t hold that belief provisionally. Wonderful again.

     
Quote
109

Clive Hayden

05/23/2009

2:39 am

beelzebub,

Your very declaration “If you provide sufficient evidence, I will revise them [beliefs].” is a belief that is not held provisionally.

If it is held provisionally, then you’re lying about changing your beliefs. Again, self-referential incoherence.


Clive wrongly believes that he's being clever. Another point in favour of the notion that you should hold all your beliefs provisionally and should revise them if evidence to the contrary is turning up.

Hey Clive,
what do you think is the more rational assumption:
1) The human mind is infallible   OR
2) The human mind is fallible?
We see every day that people come to the wrong conclusion or act illogical. We know from our history that people believed lots of things that turned out to be wrong.
I'd say the second assumption is more warranted.
That beliefs should be held provisionally is not a belief in itself, it follows logically from the assumption that the human mind is fallible.
Of course, I could be wrong.

Of course you are right, you could be wrong. But in that case, you would have proven your point, and in fact be right.

A paradox come true. Self-referential indeed.

Date: 2009/07/20 15:29:41, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ July 20 2009,07:54)
This part killed me....

Quote
Daly said that President O bama is "an incredibly engaging person, and he's hip." Tell me what makes him so hip Mr. Daly is it his pro-abortion agenda, his ant-Christian agenda, his same-sex marriage agenda, his pluralism, his hatred of America, the free-market and the traditional family?


O bama?  WTF

his ant-Christian agenda?
Finally, I see teh true reason why they are heap-creep-crawling out about everywhere. O, that Bama Man.

Date: 2009/07/20 15:54:09, Link
Author: Rrr
And anyway, who wants to go to Oslo?

that's the f-ine PEACE PRIZE ffs (for fine socializers). Dishonorable mere scientists go to Stockholm to pick up their medals. Really, do try and keep up. It hasn't been much more than one century since 1901, but still.

Date: 2009/07/30 13:33:34, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ July 30 2009,13:28)
Quote (dvunkannon @ July 29 2009,22:34)
 
Quote

GilDodgen
07/29/2009
10:13 pm
The universe is a four-dimensional expanding hypersphere, analogous in three dimensions to the surface of an expanding balloon. The surface of the balloon is finite but boundless at any point during the expansion. All points on the surface are moving away from each other, and every point could be considered to be the center of the surface, if that’s where you live.

The balloon analogy works for a finite universe, but if it's infinite the analogy fails for sections larger than a small fraction of the balloon.

Henry

So, manifolds are manyfold. QED, eh man? Hey, pop science aint so hard as they tellya. Tick one off for the blowhards.

Date: 2009/07/30 13:40:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 29 2009,12:38)
This exact question has been asked by the same person at askyahoo.

I suppose it could be legit, but why not google it first? There are lots of responses. Why would someone claim there are none?

Well search me... maybe for 10 extra study points from a drdr?

Date: 2009/08/17 16:26:12, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Aug. 17 2009,15:52)
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 17 2009,15:26)
When George Washington was born, his place of birth was in a colony of another country... ;)

And John McCain was born in Panama...

Where was the outrage then?????????????

One must admit, however, that Senator McCain is nowhere near the maddest of the relevant hatters. There were several much shadier characters running around this time last year. IMHO of course.

Date: 2009/09/06 03:55:23, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (sparc @ Sep. 05 2009,22:23)
Gil
Quote
All of mathematics can ultimately be traced back to the simple concept of addition: 1 apple plus 1 apple equals 2 apples.

Repetitive addition yields multiplication and its inverse yields division. Repetitive multiplication yields exponentiation
I am looking forward to his mathematical foundation of the concept of square apples and sexuality. Or would it rather be homo-sexuality?

Ehrm. That would be pomo-sexuality, for the lingwits.

Hat/tip/veal.

Date: 2009/10/05 14:23:48, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (FloydLee @ Oct. 05 2009,00:48)
Well, it looks like Dheddle is ready to take his marbles and go home, so I do want to at least give him one good reply regarding his page 1 post.

8<--- disingenious nonresponse snippedated ---

FloydLee

Why don't you collect some marbles, Floyd? You seem to be in short supply.

For two dozen pages now you have been going back on your word about committing to an honest debate and dodging Deadman's very direct questions posed right at the start. IIRC, you are here on his invitation, yet you avoid responding to your sponsor for as long as you think you can.

Think you're being clever, do you? Well think again. Boring, that's what. So pick up your broken marble, go back home and do your best to get born yet again, equipped with a new set. New handle too? An ounce of honesty even?

Maybe Jesus loves you better next time. Good luck.

Date: 2009/10/06 14:04:47, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Turncoat @ Oct. 06 2009,13:37)
Quote (BillB @ Oct. 06 2009,11:56)
The alternative I suppose is to refute the paper from a technical standpoint through academic journals, and try and hint at the possible dishonesty through that means.

It often takes more words to rebut a smooth creationist argument than are in the argument itself. It's hard to explain what's wrong with some fundamental things that Dembski and Marks breeze right through, like the notion of search.

In the IEEE Computational Intelligence Society, which includes investigators in evolutionary computation, rebuttals go in a peer-reviewed "magazine," not the primary journals, and manuscripts are limited to 8 double-spaced pages.

Tough challenge to so briefly (only 8 pages) counter a thesis as economically expressible as GODDIDIT (only 8 characters). 8 seconds is a normal sound bite, approximating the attention span of most ppl.

Teh stoopid is teh dense. Cant really pack it any tighter than that.

Date: 2009/10/06 15:44:58, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (ppb @ Oct. 06 2009,12:30)
ETA:  It's equivalent to saying we add a day to the calendar every four years, therefore the earth is slowing down 1/4 day every year.

Or that all speedometers show slightly less than actual velocity, so no matter how much too fast we drive, we will always be late when we get there.

Well, that's my explanation anyway ;-)

Date: 2009/10/07 14:23:32, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 07 2009,12:38)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 07 2009,12:22)
What's with the one white glove thing?

Is ...that... could it be... Michael Jackson's real dad?


I think I may have inadvertantly struck on the secret origins of MJ's "Moonwalking"

You're probably right, Michael Jackson's real dead. Oh.

Date: 2009/10/07 14:45:21, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Oct. 06 2009,15:59)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 06 2009,13:09)
       
Quote
Since the invention of the atomic clock in the middle of the last century, the addition of a leap second, about every two years, has been necessitated, because (embarassingly to those who say the earth and universe are billions of years old) the rate of the earth’s spin is slowing down, half a second per year, which implies that 30 million years ago, a day would have been 12 hours long, and 30 million years in the future, a day would be 48 hours, which is all very inconvenient to the timeline of the darwinists, who don’t like to talk about this one of many strong indicators that the earth and universe are really quite young, as believed by half of Americans, and 30% of Britions, what the darwinists also don’t like to talk about, but which should be pointed out, after all, were you aware of those numbers?


yeah, that's all one sentence.


tard

Wow.  These are the great minds who mean to overthrow science.  The 'big tent' of IDC is so large that any argument that can be taken to somehow discredit evolution, however idiotic, irrelevant, or misinformed, is taken to be absolutely, utterly true.

If a six-foot pile of elephant shit mixed with razor blades and rat poison was being attacked by all the armies of the world, some of these IDiots would defend it to the death, if only you scrawled "Darwin Sucks" on it.

OTOH, if you scrawled "Darwin's Socks" on it, it'd play tuba with the rest of the ban'd.

Play on, damnID!

Date: 2009/10/15 16:06:18, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (khan @ Oct. 15 2009,15:22)
Quote (Quack @ Oct. 15 2009,15:32)
This thread actually is lots of fun as long as I avoid the FL originals and just go for the replies. I just can't stand undiluted stupidity, I need the chaser to down it.

I do the same.


Apologies for abusing the peanut gallery rules.

I quite agree with the quoted. As does, it seems to me, this poetic person.

Date: 2009/10/18 02:39:54, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 18 2009,02:05)
Quote (Aardvark @ Oct. 18 2009,02:59)


What do I win?

A Yellow Banana.

Bah dum-hark

Date: 2009/10/23 14:55:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 23 2009,06:54)
I just got blown away by the Lawrence Krauss lecture at AAI 2009!

Excellent cosmology right there!

Thanks for the link, SD! Awesome stuff indeed.

Date: 2009/10/23 15:00:26, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 23 2009,13:15)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 23 2009,10:59)
Quote (dmso74 @ Oct. 23 2009,13:49)
   
Quote
BTW, has anybody seen KairosFocus aks Gordon E. Mullings from Montserrat recently?


or jerry, for that matter. i miss his over-the-top jerkish, sarcastic version of TARD and, of course, who can forget the classic arguments

1) all scientists are ID scientists, they just don't know it
2) measure FCSI? if something is functional, complex, specified and has information it's FCSI. what more do you want? go read about transcription and translation, that's FCSI.
3) Michael Behe is right about everything

StephenB has been missing in action the better part of a week. Maybe they've got another circle jerk going elsewhere we haven't seen.

Maybe they've all been called to join Dr Dr D's legendary Super-Double-Secret ID group - the one that coordinates all the research*.

After all, we're talking about UD's intellectual cream of the crop here.  And, sadly, I'm not joking.



*"Does it look designed to you?"
"Why, yes, Dr Dr D. It does."

One parsimonious explanation might be that they all went on teh rapetour. Hey, maybe they did get the date right this time even though they missed out last month. Wonder if the Heddle telescope could get pictures?

Date: 2009/10/23 16:42:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 23 2009,15:51)
Quote (Rrr @ Oct. 23 2009,14:00)
Wonder if the Heddle telescope could get pictures?

If that doesn't work, try the Hubble?

If you think that works any better... :-)

Date: 2009/10/24 14:35:30, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 24 2009,13:30)
Can I resist the obvious quote mine from that last reply? :p

Henry

I think not -- I don't know your mind but I know in mine, I couldn't.
Remember, all bets are off since what, page 2? :-)

Date: 2009/10/26 07:04:46, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 26 2009,01:59)
After looking for the reference (Trifonov, 1989) I found some interesting points.

BornAgain77 keeps citing this claim and seems to be the ONLY one making this claim. He tries to attribute it to Sanford (in "The Mystery of The Genome') but Sanford doesn't make the claim that BatShit77 does.

Here's BatShit77's "take" on it at another site:

...>8... (more snippage)............

All seem to be different things. Anyway, what seems to be true is that (1) BatShitInsane77 is very confused and (2) Trifonov's actual work is pretty damn interesting: he has his name on at least 120 or so papers in the last couple of decades. I'm going to start reading his stuff on the origins of the genetic code, etc. since there's some of his .pdf's about.

You should thank teh Batshitter then, for guiding you further edifecation. :-p

Date: 2009/10/28 14:45:23, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (khan @ Oct. 27 2009,16:16)
Not bragging or complaining, just my viewpoint concerning power wealth & status relating to me in modern USA society:

On the plus side: White & heterosexual

On the minus side: female & small

Not sure: IQ near 4 sigma, aspergers, atheist, analytical
--------------------------------------------------------
Most of those who are born to power/privilege don't see it.

FWIW, Khan, I liked you even before this :-)

Date: 2009/10/28 15:01:06, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 27 2009,16:31)
Yep. Still alien to most of the world, too. But we were focusing on his standard Limbaugh-inspired claim.

Hell, popular figures catering to the lowest common denominators -- like Limbaugh -- are also a useful indicator of smart being scary. He has to play the masses in a "I'm just a regular guy" way.

Know what you mean. In my country, we have several such samples. The most straightforward of them aspires to the highest office in spite of (or even due to) publicly admitting to such duplicity as urging Us the People to pay taxes (It's way cool, ya know) while fighting the collector off her own doorway for ~200 unpaid parking tickets (in her unemployed hubby's name) and also for repeatedly abusing her work credit card for personal expenses. The latter alone would probably, in the private sector, have gotten her fired outright and escorted off the premises inside five minutes. But in the field of politics, it is perceived as bona fide bonus points. "She's just such an ordinary person, one of us!"

There are many other "examples", in competing parties. They'd do anything to try to improve their public image right down to appearing in humiliating tv shows.

Guess I'll just vote for the pirates next time. The competition makes their honesty shine brightly.

Date: 2009/10/28 16:47:30, Link
Author: Rrr
Bruised in head and heel,
FL,
may you live to heal.
Else, I wish you well in Hell.

Date: 2009/10/29 14:37:14, Link
Author: Rrr
Perhaps a bit over the Bathroom Wall, even -- but, these Welsh guys could have found a worse hobby I guess.

Apropos des bottes, hasn't our dear Louis been rather quiet lately? Hmm.

Date: 2009/10/29 15:00:44, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 29 2009,14:22)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 28 2009,21:58)
Quote (Fross @ Oct. 28 2009,21:28)
This kind of humor is so infectious.

Which is why we should cultivate resistance. My humorless auntie Beatrice (we just called her "Beatic" ) would have cleared this up right away.

Don't forget to tip the fish, etc.

Resistance is futile!

(Though I don't know how transistors would work if resistance really was futile, but never mind that.)

I have a natural reluctance and lack the capacity to reprocicate, but I think some of them do work in a pinch. Maybe I'm just doped, or not wired right. But, as you say, NPN. Let's all have a field-effect day, and impedance!

There, that's my reactance, whether it is germanium or simply sillycon.

You don't have to throw your hats at me, I already have too many.  :p

Date: 2009/10/29 17:23:49, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 29 2009,17:05)
Quote (Rrr @ Oct. 29 2009,14:00)
There, that's my reactance, whether it is germanium or simply sillycon.

It's elementary.

I emit, this is my last GaAsP. Probably just a transient, not solid, state. It's only for collectors who wouldn't have three legs to stand on without this base, nor a case. All chrystal clear now? Because to amplify, I cannot semiconduct this disc-ussion e-hole lot longer.

Date: 2009/10/30 15:31:28, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 30 2009,15:27)
RTH    
Quote
Also "8,031,810,176 to one" is 26^7

And, typical for Vox and his buddies, it's wrong.  There are 8 characters in "F*** you".  Give Vox Day the Dr Dr W. A. Dembski Story Problem Fail award.

Ah, but there can be no space on earth, shirley. That would only give a place to hide teh godoftehgapes, see? And that is entirely anothertema (sp)

Date: 2009/10/30 15:34:30, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 30 2009,10:15)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 30 2009,05:10)
Quote (Rrr @ Oct. 29 2009,15:37)
Apropos des bottes, hasn't our dear Louis been rather quiet lately? Hmm.

Yep.

He is undoubtedly working on a T erriffic A ll- R ound T heory which will contain
1.) Arcane and Obtuse Chemical Formulas
2.) Rugby
3.) Dressing up in women's clothing and
4.) Mornington Crescent


Butbut... he IS a lumberjack innit? so he Must be ok. rite?

Date: 2009/10/31 17:40:12, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 31 2009,16:30)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 31 2009,12:40)
   
Quote (carlsonjok @ Oct. 31 2009,10:37)

Snicker.
     
Quote

13
hummus man
10/31/2009
3:07 am

Here, here. All through engineering school and my professional career, I never really thought of myself as a scientist. But, since I use the scientific method. I guess I can be one.

that's really really really really good.

I believe hummus is trying to be a PITA at UD.  :O

Aw shuddup already all y'all hommos before you make shisH'O Bob

Quote
I even have a problem stopping myself from ending sentences with three dots.

Like this...

Ah but that is a whole nuther elliptic inequality. I "think"...

Date: 2009/11/01 03:55:27, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 01 2009,02:11)
Quote
Aw shuddup already all y'all hommos before you make shisH'O Bob

Are you implying that I'm backwards, eh?...

No. But you are the spitting image of a sock. Right? or left?
Sorry if I off-ended anyone, it's not so easy to fal off eloquently.

Date: 2009/11/01 14:25:30, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 01 2009,11:39)
StephenB:
 
Quote
People who think with their glands do not respond well to appeals for self control or reasoned arguments about directing the passions toward some desired end.

Not the words of a guy who often gets his wick wet.

So, which end would StevenB desire?
No, [strike]scratch that[/strike] never mind answering that.
One really does not want to know.

Date: 2009/11/03 06:53:42, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 02 2009,17:27)
Quick trip of snapshots around our cemetery trail. We finished setting up just before the trick-or-treaters began arriving, so I barely had time to get some pictures. I meant to get some at night, but forgot.

They're on my FB page, but I think the album is publicly viewable.

Start here.

Not public.

Date: 2009/11/06 04:54:40, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 05 2009,05:43)
Enjoy JoeG while you can.  He's decided that Hydrogen Peroxide will prevent Swine Flu:  
Quote
Swine Flu (H1N1) Vs. H2O2
OK flu season is here.

I am not going to get a flu vaccine but will rely on the science that says that the virus cannot live in an oxygenated environment.

However this means that I have to try to get back on track with my H2O2 intake.

I need to drink it 3 times a day however I have only been drinking it in the morning.

Now my wife is against this because she thinks that I will get the flu and pass it onto them. However the rest of my family are getting the vaccine(s), so they should be covered.

I have already been adding H2O2 to all the humidifiers in the house. This protocol has seemed to help keep us healthy- it only takes 2 oz of 35% food grade H2O2 per gallon of distilled water to keep your air clean from viruses.


Stay tuned...
posted by Joe G @ 7:26 AM

Link

P.S. If I were a right-wing screwball, I could also say that JoeG also has a drinking problem.

Don't knock Joe's Gallient attempt at an empirical experiment. Given the relevant dose, concentration and repetition it seems to lie well within the realms of possibility (sorry, I can't compute the actual probabilities here) that H2O2 will in fact prevent him from ever contracting flu. Ever.

JoeG will be famous after all.

Hey, maybe that is why his wife doesn't stop him? What do we know.

Date: 2009/11/06 04:57:55, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 05 2009,17:05)
So was FL the cat, or the mouse, in that analogy? :p

FL shouldn't stick his trap where it don't belong. IMHO.

Date: 2009/11/07 10:11:53, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 06 2009,18:15)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 06 2009,17:19)
I had a Symbolics Lisp Machine to myself when I was at PNL. I taught an intro AI class with Lisp and Prolog around that time frame.

Somewhere around here I have an HP 32s. Yes, lot's of people are lost without the "=" key. Actually, on my PDA I have a HP RPN calculator app that is even programmable like the real thing.

I suspect that Gil Dodgen has a Professional Model Lisp.

That may well be, but if so he keeps it in Checkers. Tight to his chest. Gee, could that be the explainanation for his shirty tastes? Poor guy. (Obtw, did Chopin write Reverse Polish Notes? And would that be Satanic? If played backwards)

Date: 2009/11/10 16:32:46, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (REC @ Nov. 10 2009,16:12)
Is "sorting laundry" a strange Canadian euphemism?

Check that.  I don't want to know.

Nor do I. But one figures, they* would at least want their socks to pair up. In lieu of other tubular garments, so to speak. Closets notwithstanding.




NB, I use the gender-neutral pronoun here.

Date: 2009/11/12 15:05:00, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 12 2009,09:19)
Quote
Creationists have applied our minds regardless of professions and take on evolution on its merits.
We are experts now too and show any audience the lack of merit in evolution in its great or minor claims.
[snip]...

If the experts can't defend the merits then they are not very good. We already discovered this.

Wow, regardless of professions, 'you' are experts?
How come you fail miserably in showing lack of merit? You make claims without supporting evidence.

Your 'experts' are not very good; they aren't even bad - they are completely useless as we already know.

Please disappear, you have yet to make sense, you are just wasting our time. How old are you? Why is that a secret? Have you got anything to show that you are not just grossly ignorant?

Sorry, Quack, but I must interject the opposite here.
Au contraire to "fail[ing] miserably in showing lack of merit", it appears to this casual, non-interfering observer that they instead ace every single test in that regard.
But that is the only point with which I have any quarrel.
Oh, except perhaps the concern of other commenters that the obviously insecure Booba might get scared away. Some might consider it rude, even, to demand he state his age; it might be similar to his IQ. [And I'm not referring to any of the OT heroes here :-]

Carry on, as you were, at ease, usw.

Date: 2009/11/12 15:20:53, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (REC @ Nov. 12 2009,10:38)
Bear meets cat No! No! Not what you might think!

Pray tell, what might I think?  What world of bear-cat relations am I unaware of?  What deeper truth lies in these videos of a bear literally meeting a cat?

Quote
In this next one, the cat wins, and you will see why: This is a defence of angry cats. But, if you watch it through, it is not a defence for bear behinds.


WTF?

did u miss teh pervious discovery tahTenise does not use underwarez? $he won't admit it doo doo staying in the Closet. now, beer with me butt i tink its cos it get twisty.

Corblimy, now i feel DIstinktly uncomfortable. Better cleanupp my a€t.

Date: 2009/11/12 15:24:49, Link
Author: Rrr
Yea, get even, even better, Afarensis!

Date: 2009/11/12 16:27:40, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2009,16:19)
Look at that.  The server didn't explode -- it just lopped off the top of the pyramid.

Must beehe a side-effect of short-sidedness all round. On top-ic, yes?

I would of tried to peek it, but I'm stranded at the Mersey off the parent postage.

Date: 2009/11/12 16:30:21, Link
Author: Rrr
Max.

Date: 2009/11/12 16:36:37, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 12 2009,15:59)
I haven't been my usual self lately; I've had some tough business on my mind but it seems things are clearing up again. Bubba has been a challenge too. It would be better if we could have a subject to debate, say like flood geology.

Hey Bubba, what about flood geology, care  (or dare?) to discuss that? Take marine fossils, chalk and limestone in the Himalayas, how is that compatible with YEC flood geology? Let us throw in some plate tectonics and continental drift too, and let us know where that water came from and where it went. You are the expert(s), surprise and overwhelm us with facts.

Yes, you do seem a bit pale around the gills. Hope you feel better soon; I know where you're coming from. Double negations ain't no two good. Only a plate o'tonics cures that! If you get my drift :-)

Nothing but p unintended.

Date: 2009/11/12 16:44:39, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2009,16:32)
Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2009,16:25)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2009,14:22)
Kiefs,



I am not done with ravens and 'nanas yet. Does a yellow nana also give support to All ravens are black or green? How about All ravens are black or an unknown colour?

Damn, Richard -- has this been keeping you up at night?

No, that was your mom.

I ARE FILOSOFISING HERE. Problem of Induction am my favorite. Help me out and and I'll send your mom back to make you dinner.

NO WAY that's kiefs richtard MOM. Rifftards, maybe but prolly knot.
Induction's Mike, I think.

But dont fret, no back beat harmony done.
Imma tune out here. rNB

Date: 2009/11/12 16:58:09, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (RDK @ Nov. 12 2009,16:52)
Barry on school shootings:

     
Quote
scrofulous, I have personally proven parts of the “official” report to be not only wrong but wildly inaccurate. Thus, a statement in the report does not settle the matter as you seem to imply.


What sort of sick fuck twists the factual happenings of a school shooting - ignoring personal eyewitness testimonies as well as police reports - just to make a point about how a scientific theory leads to immoral behavior according to a 4,000 year old holy book?

Fuck you, Barry Arrington.  I hope you read this.  You're a sick little [strikethrough]shit[/strikethrough]shot.

Must corkt spelink. Them bullet point's loaded terms.

Date: 2009/11/12 17:08:45, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (dnmlthr @ Nov. 12 2009,17:03)
Quote (RDK @ Nov. 12 2009,22:52)
Barry on school shootings:

   
Quote
scrofulous, I have personally proven parts of the “official” report to be not only wrong but wildly inaccurate. Thus, a statement in the report does not settle the matter as you seem to imply.


What sort of sick fuck twists the factual happenings of a school shooting - ignoring personal eyewitness testimonies as well as police reports - just to make a point about how a scientific theory leads to immoral behavior according to a 4,000 year old holy book?

Fuck you, Barry Arrington.  I hope you read this.  You're a sick little shit.

Now he can add "ghoul" to his already impressive resume, along with "idiot", "ignoramus" and "liar".

Wasn't it already established that he is in fact a lawyer?

Date: 2009/11/13 07:33:35, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (dnmlthr @ Nov. 13 2009,03:53)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Nov. 13 2009,09:19)
If the Columbine evidence is under seal, how can Barrogant make claims about what is in it?

How could he possibly resist making claims that no one can call him on?

As a lawyer, should he not know not to risk disbarment by so flagrantly violating a court order? I'm not one, so I can more easily afford to be arrogant here, but to me this seems to be on the wrong side of contempt of court and quite possibly enough to end his career.

Does the Honorable Judge Whoever know about this?

/ Minds, Enq.

Date: 2009/11/15 14:13:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Nov. 15 2009,11:35)
niwrad:
 
Quote
For example, before the sonar of a submarine they say it is sophisticated engineering; before the sonar of a bat they say it is natural selection. This odd double standard always struck me.

... and the mating dance of the submarines is sooo cute.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology....rwinism

Yes Kattarina, and the Kursk was perhaps the most exciting empirical example so far. Goes to show, the Design was re-used from Arachnidae etc. Farcinating!

Somehow, I wonder when we will se a poster going absolutely submarine-shit-crazy. Although that could be even worse than the Kursk incident. Think I'll stay on shore, just the same.

Date: 2009/11/16 12:31:38, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (cogzoid @ Nov. 15 2009,23:04)
Alright, I'll delurk, on request.  I've been reading this site for many years now, and I used to post frequently, back in the days of evopeach and Ghost of Paley.  While I no longer gather the tard, I do enjoy your harvests.  As a bragging right, I asked DaveTard the question that he famously answered by saying that he violates the SLoT every time he types.

But I'm also going to point out that fair use copyright laws make a clear exception for scholarship and education.  How could anyone think that RationalWiki isn't using his paper for that?  He's obviously trying to make the criticism go away.  It must be embarrassing having that on your "permanent record."

Back to my shadows.

"No, i vill not buy zis wrecord. It is scratch-ed!"
And my hoovercraft is full of eels. Must be why it sucks so hard.

Slightly more seriously, do we all remember those vinyl (or even lacquer) recording that tended to get boring very fast once the groove was ruptured? The pickup needle jumped and the message just kept repeating itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ting itself ... Oops

Kind of some more or less good DrDrDrDrDr..... they needed a) a good cleanup or b) scrapping or (with dubious moral implications) c) to go to the second-hand market. Oh wait...

And ISTM (IANAL) you are 100% correct on the © matter.

Date: 2009/12/08 18:18:51, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 07 2009,16:55)
This one time, at band camp, I caught a fish that was like seven feet long.


But it got away.

-"This one time, I caught a haddock that weighed 10 kilos. But it got away."
-"But, but, wait, if it got away, how do you know how much it weighed?"
-"Well, you see, there was this wave coming in just then ..."

No, sorry, I see this does not translate too well from Gothenburg Swedish. Never mind. Pun intended, but it got away. Also. Again. Line must've snapped or summat.

Dont forget to tip the waitress fish. Or is it veal?

Date: 2009/12/08 18:27:22, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 08 2009,08:56)
Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 07 2009,23:02)
All I can say is, Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock...

Like a crocodile creeping up on Captain Pirate "Evo Dead in Ten Years" Dembski ... oh, sorry, that's Captain Captain Pirate Pirate Dembski.

Dembski's croc nemesis would go Tik Taak, Tik Taak.

Apologies for butting in here. IMHO, there's also some amount of Tik Taalk going on.
As you were, however: Body Body Odor Odor DWilly -- you were saying?

Date: 2009/12/08 18:28:24, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (olegt @ Dec. 08 2009,08:01)
Denyse supplies a sig-worthy one-liner:
 
Quote
What we don’t have, unfortunately, is the brain.

Priceless! No less.

Date: 2009/12/17 02:41:56, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (dvunkannon @ Dec. 16 2009,18:07)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 16 2009,18:18)
 
Quote (dvunkannon @ Dec. 16 2009,15:15)
I was running for the bus last night, tripped in the bus station and broke my finger landing on some concrete steps. Ouch. Went to the emergency room this morning and took along Signature in the Cell to read during the inevitable periods of waiting.

The doctor finally came in, and looked at the book. "What are you reading? Oh, I was afraid it was that!"

Bedside manner: 0
Brutal honesty: priceless

I explained that I was reading it to critique it, etc. We eventually had an interesting conversation.

So which was more painful: breaking the finger, or reading Signature in the Cell?

The finger was an accident and I have painkillers for it, but the book is  a self inflicted wound.

SigCell is mainly painful when the mask slips.

Meyer ends a discussion of genetic algorithms (painful in itself, since he is shoehorning every example into one narrative straightjacket) with an admission that active information come either from a human or a random number generator. But five pages later. "only a human agency could add that information".

Similarly, Meyer treats the beginnings of modern science as the demand for experiment and the repudiation reasoning by logic alone to a belief about the state of the physical world. And yet, at key points he is completely convinced by arguments of Polyani and Pattee that are not experimental, simply logical arguments.

In not dealing with the stereochemical hypothesis and direct templating, Meyer is plainly lying by omission.

Sorry about your pains, but it's a Good Thing it didn't turn out even worse. At least you got one thing wrapped up for the present season. But I guess this makes it more difficult to touch&type? Then again, some people may be more used than others to wearing socks both here and there ...
:p

Heal well.

Date: 2009/12/21 13:24:15, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (sparc @ Dec. 21 2009,09:19)
Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 21 2009,08:04)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 21 2009,05:35)
How the ID world works, Part 1:

GrannyTard:      
Quote
I am a Canadian free speech journalist

But you have no free speech, at least on UD.

This is so untrue in the ID Tardaverse!!

At UD everyone is perfectly free to post on any and all subjects, as long as they adhere strictly to the party line.  

It's textbook Catch-22 ...or is it textbook "The Big Lie", or textbook Big Brother aka BarryA /CliveBaby?

and she is calling other people "useless". But of course this is different from Nazi terms like "unwertes Leben" because she does it in the right faith.

And also, in the right language of the great big ... uh ... the Great ... uh ... why, Yes, of The Grate! uh ... who brung the cheese? Ramen.

Date: 2009/12/26 09:51:44, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (didymos @ Dec. 26 2009,09:49)
Voice Coil gots a question for StephenB:
Quote
At any rate, I’ve witnessed some of your many trips around the “irrational Darwinists abandon causality” Maypole. Do you really want to travel that route yet again?


Of course he does. StephenB is a sucker for the circular.

Kind of like a brain drain vortex? :-)

Date: 2009/12/29 13:28:03, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (khan @ Dec. 28 2009,16:25)
 
Quote (blipey @ Dec. 28 2009,16:51)
   
Quote (Badger3k @ Dec. 27 2009,17:34)
   
Quote (blipey @ Dec. 27 2009,17:24)
that's some good reading, Kristine.  I especially like the point about Glen Beck lamenting that people no longer recognize symbolism, while he himself is using a socialist, union symbol for his grassroots movement.

Teabagging is socialist?   :p

Only if it's rooibos?

That was obscure.

Apologies if this was not a query, but permit me to endeavour to explain, if I may.

AFAIK, Rooibos is a hot stimulating drink prepared like tea from the twigs of a "red bush" (instead of fermented leaves of the camelia tree) and also enjoyed in a like manner, primarily in southern Africa.

Ergo, a red tea bag. QED, etc.

It will all get clearer after a cuppa, luv.

Date: 2009/12/29 16:27:18, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (khan @ Dec. 29 2009,13:44)
Quote (Rrr @ Dec. 29 2009,14:28)
Quote (khan @ Dec. 28 2009,16:25)
   
Quote (blipey @ Dec. 28 2009,16:51)
     
Quote (Badger3k @ Dec. 27 2009,17:34)
     
Quote (blipey @ Dec. 27 2009,17:24)
that's some good reading, Kristine.  I especially like the point about Glen Beck lamenting that people no longer recognize symbolism, while he himself is using a socialist, union symbol for his grassroots movement.

Teabagging is socialist?   :p

Only if it's rooibos?

That was obscure.

Apologies if this was not a query, but permit me to endeavour to explain, if I may.

AFAIK, Rooibos is a hot stimulating drink prepared like tea from the twigs of a "red bush" (instead of fermented leaves of the camelia tree) and also enjoyed in a like manner, primarily in southern Africa.

Ergo, a red tea bag. QED, etc.

It will all get clearer after a cuppa, luv.

I understood it because I drink rooibos.

You're allright then. I agree, it was obscure, though.

Date: 2009/12/30 10:44:56, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (RDK @ Dec. 30 2009,00:59)
     
Quote
‘‘I was like ‘Oh my God! It’s Jesus on a banana!’’


Haha, priceless.

It's funny, though: kinda looks more like CHARLIE DARWIN TO ME.



It's most likely Satan or some other demon trying to corrupt the Australian youth by channeling Darwinian icons via healthy fruits.

       
Quote
25
Mung

12/28/2009 1:35 pm
When you pick something up, you apply a force that is greater than that exerted by gravity. That force comes from your muscles, supported by your skeleton and fueled by the food you’ve eaten. All elements of the action obey the laws of physics.

So that force in the muscles just “poofs” out of nowhere? What physical law generates that force, keeping in mind that f=ma?


Just wow.

Well, it's been fun folks, but that's a good way to wrap up "TARDed for the Holidays '09".  I'll see you all again after the semester is over, or if I get extraordinarily bored on campus and need some UD nuggets to take me down a few notches.

Funny, yes. Peculiar, yes that too. Crazy? We're talking bananas! But to me the likeness was even more of a slightly different persona: Carl-Einar "Charlie" Häckner, Swedish comic magician with a quite unique style, THIS much to one side of the border to madness.

Wiki

YooToob sample without subtitles, alas -- but who needs such anyway, eh? -- as a dubious Santa doing Majix.

Date: 2010/01/20 09:20:30, Link
Author: Rrr
Greetings, Earthlings!
Someone sent me this animation link today, and it somehow seems to resonate with the dizzying vortex of IDly DIsigned UnintelligenD INContinental F-luence threatening to suck everything with it down teh brains that needs to be constantly watched. It's kind of recycled material, I guess.

What are the odds of that, eh?

Date: 2010/01/20 14:14:12, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 20 2010,13:34)
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 20 2010,12:59)
Robin,
 
Quote
What does 'matter isn't continuous'/'energy isn't continuous'/etc mean?


Matter is made of atoms (hence the phrase "atomic theory" in my earlier note), with space between them - i.e., not continuous as I assume it was previously thought. (On a side note, the writers of movies like "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" apparently still believes that matter is continuous, since the stuff in that movie would not work if matter is made of atoms.)

Energy, at least electromagnetic energy, is contained in individual photons, so energy transfers by this means is discrete rather than continuous.

Henry

Photons, not electrons?

Yes, I do believe Henry J is correct. Electro-magnetic energy, as in radio, light or gamma-rays. As in the photo-electric effect of Einsteinian fame. Maxwellian, even.

Date: 2010/02/01 04:14:31, Link
Author: Rrr
Agreed! Me too!

Date: 2010/02/01 15:17:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Amadan @ Feb. 01 2010,14:51)
§@%&!! critics, never bloody pleased.....

Oh, the cost of pear review...
At least, you didn't get no bananas, yes?
I liked it fine, even if I'm not a fruit basket case, yet.

Date: 2010/02/01 16:21:21, Link
Author: Rrr
Berry happle that you picked a mellon mood to respond and avoided the cherrished strawberrypicking way of the apricotards. Lycheely I rarely need to plum their depths (I cantaloupe so low) since others supply our orchard with juicy samples here. Thanks again.

Date: 2010/02/01 16:24:36, Link
Author: Rrr
Apologies, but I have a pressing engagement & must rhum.. CU

Date: 2010/03/19 04:01:57, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 19 2010,01:37)
Quote (Badger3k @ Mar. 19 2010,01:02)
 
Quote (sparc @ Mar. 18 2010,22:20)
   
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 18 2010,12:11)
I'm not sure I'm following the debate on postmodernism correctly, but it's a fact that PCA tends toward fundamentalism and PC-USA tends toward liberalism in doctrine and politics.

This should make it perfectly clear.


There's no way out.

Presbyterians check in, but they don't check out...

That's Calvinism for you.  They're predestined to walk this little denominational Habitrail.

Funny, I cannot find G.d anywhere in this map. Am I looking in the wrong place, perhaps? They do say H.s ways are unfathomable. Maybe on a whole different plane, like the Xenu?

Date: 2010/04/13 16:58:18, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ April 13 2010,12:49)
Quote (Kristine @ April 11 2010,22:08)
I have just spent two F*&%$#g days in DC, looking for a place to live for teh summer. AUUUUGGGHHHH!  :O

I looked at six places, aimed for seven; I couldn't even get my ass to one place - if it takes you two hours even with the Metro, no dice!

I'm afraid I didn't do enough.

Anyone living in DC and want someone to sleep on teh floor? I'll put my stuff in teh corner - that will be my little area. Let me move in with you, please!


Congratulations on the Poe House!  

It could have been a lot worse... You could have wound up on a new FOX Reality TV Series "The Witches Of C-Street", where every week, a lovely young witch is tested by the self-professed Christian politicians that live there.  Hilarity ensues.

Wait, the Secretary of State sues who? Self-propelled Christians? And just as an international consensus on nuclear non-proliferation was reached again in DC?

Oh. I see now. Never mind. Shimmy on. As you were. At ease. Et cetera.

Date: 2010/04/15 15:55:33, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 15 2010,15:07)
What's up with UD these days? Lots and lots of new articles that get no comments.

Is Cornelius too deep?

Well, from what I can deduce by proxy* when it comes to plumbing he takes the lead.

BW, here I come ;-)





*i.e., WAG

Date: 2010/04/18 16:20:33, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 18 2010,16:12)
Quote (Louis @ April 16 2010,23:16)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 16 2010,09:29)
Ok guys, very funny, I'm laughing my ass off.

Now, who's the smartass who went and turned on that bloody volcano? I know it was one of you Church Burning Ebola Boys. Don't deny it!

I have to fly to the UK!

:(

Stop being such a ponce and swim.

Louis

P.S. ;-)

Yeah, I almost thought about that. The problem is I'll probably have to walk to Calais first, since the SNCF ( the French railway company) is on strike. Would be too tired to swim...

On the really less funny news: I was at a party yesterday night, and now have a third-degree burn on half my chin from its base to my lower lipp, the lipp itself being burned from second to third degree. There's no pain, or sensation, which is not a good sign at all. Besides the risks of infection, it will probably leave an ugly (and big) scare.

All in all, I am devastated.

One hesitates to ask what could cause such a horrible unsensational scare.

Date: 2010/04/19 11:29:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 18 2010,16:33)
Rrr: fire-blowing gone wrong...

I knew I should never have asked!

Sympathies galore, though. Burns just blow. Oh, sorry. ;-)

This layman seconds the advice about aloe. Just break off one or more of the fleshy leaves (on the plant) and apply the juices directly on your afflicted areas. Dunno how it works, but it actually seems to do so.

Then go see a medic ASAP.

Too late now for this time, but I think it is important to immediately chill burns, using cold water, a bag of frozen peas or whatever, in order to minimize deeper tissue damage.

Date: 2010/05/04 14:18:31, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ May 03 2010,12:44)
Quote (dnmlthr @ May 03 2010,12:06)
Bachelor's thesis status: submitted.
Next stop: oblivion. See ya!

May The Farce be with you.

May the Fourth be with You

Date: 2010/05/20 10:56:28, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (didymos @ May 20 2010,07:54)
Ahahahaha....

Byers has all the answers:
Quote
This biblical creationist accepts as a very excellent option that bats are just land creatures who instantly developed for flight in a post flood world. So I accept there is some innate mechanism, at least back then, for some kind of rat to have, without intermediates, taken to air.


What is wrong with that boy?

Umm... His head is screwed since it screwed the wrong pouch?

Date: 2010/05/27 12:20:13, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 27 2010,09:54)
Two molecules meet in in gas giant.

"Wow, it's pretty cramped in here!"

"OMG! A talking molecule!!!"

Great punchline! Is it original? Can I quote it? Never seen it before.

Date: 2010/05/27 14:16:43, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 27 2010,12:28)
Quote (Rrr @ May 27 2010,18:20)
 
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 27 2010,09:54)
Two molecules meet in in gas giant.

"Wow, it's pretty cramped in here!"

"OMG! A talking molecule!!!"

Great punchline! Is it original? Can I quote it? Never seen it before.

Well, the original is supposed to be two eggs in a frying pan. I just adapted it a bit.

Anyway, I think it is quite safe to reproduce*... :)






*cue Louis or Rich reaction...


EDIT: Rrr, if you were being sarcastic, please forgive me, I'm a damn foreigner...

No, I'm always playing the straight guy. Also, foreign too. Honest, that's the word. Sarcastic, I can't even spell.

Really liked the joke, whether it was yours originally or not.

Date: 2010/06/21 15:22:20, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Glen Davidson @ June 21 2010,13:38)
I thought this was stunning:

   
Quote
First, the authors are so much as saying that natural selection had a billion years to do something with life forms that can use hydrogen sulfide, and it couldn’t. Why not? I thought organisms that replicate can solve any old kind of problem thrown at them.


Uh, yeah, it's not like anything evolved to use hydrogen sulfide for photosynthesis:

   
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It is thought-provoking, from an evolutionary point of view, to realize that Photosystem I must be older than Photosystem II which takes electrons from water. It follows that there must have been organisms that use only Photosystem I, and take electrons from some substance which is higher in energy than water. In fact these organisms are still easy to find, including the Green Sulfur Bacteria and the Green Filamentous Bacteria, which start with H2S or other substances including hydrogen gas. The half reaction reduction potential for S -> H2S is +0.14 volts, so the potential difference for the reaction H2S+ NAD+ -> NADH + S is only -0.46 volts, making photosynthesis much easier (starting with water we needed -1.14 volts). Remember that a negative voltage change is non-spontaneous, just like a positive Free Energy change.

Photosystem II is thus a later addition which enabled photosynthesis to use water, which is much more widely distributed on the Earth than hydrogen sulfide. Photosystem II starts with water as the electron donor.

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~deis/photosynth.html

Indeed, H2S photosynthesis might have been a necessary step to oxygenic photosynthesis.  Or not, since other forms of photosynthesis might have helped give rise to oxygenic photosynthesis.  It's a pretty obvious candidate, however, unless you're as ignorant of evolution as IDists typically are.

H2S systems simply don't provide the high energies possible from H2O systems, nor is the sulfur cycle nearly as conducive to life existing anywhere as is the oxygen cycle.

Oh well, IDiots not understanding anything about what they're pretending to critique -- has that been seen previously?

Glen Davidson


Umm. Forgive teh civil n00b here, please? I'm still trying to spell my way trough the chillingly prescient *  SciFi trilogy by Peter Watts, PhD: Starfish, Maelstrom, Behemoth (available by Creative Commons license here). As far as I have stumbled so far, it appears to feed off a similar line of thought: the existence of a simpler, more primordial organism/organization form. Brilliant stuff, AFICT. Well worth an investment, in time and/or other resources donated, at least that's what I figure. But I'm beginning to wonder if the resulting recurring nightmares are such a bargain too...

YMMV, as they say.



* The work appears to be over ten years old, at the start at least. (Oh, and apologies for html-symbol fail... Can't do beta. Sue me. (NO! Do not!))

Date: 2010/07/04 12:51:06, Link
Author: Rrr
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Souvenirs from Scotland:

Looks like you had a lovely day there at Siccar Point!  Did you clamber down that slope to the rocks? It's a long way back up, I recall!

No, I stayed on top, I kept imagining myself lying all mangled and disfigured at the bottom of the ravine ... allright, I am a coward.

U ween by loossing Darwin Prize Contest.
U can has S-M-R-T.

Date: 2010/09/26 09:55:08, Link
Author: Rrr
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According to Clive (Hi!)

 
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Richard Dawkins takes Ray Comfort out of context:


Ah, I love the smell of irony in the morning!

Pot, kettle, black, Clive.

Out of context?

Clive, does Ray Comfort believe that bananas were designed/optimized for human consumption, or doesn't he?

If he does, then in what way is he "taken out of context?"

If he doesn't, in what way does he believe that bananas are an "atheists's nightmare?"

Well, to be honest, I think Ray does have a Comfort point although in a very roundabout way. IIUIC, commercial bananas are all clones of the same plant (maybe one kind for each megacompany). If so bananas are indeed "designed", just not by any greater being than the united fruits, ole Dole (not the former senator, I trust) or Mr Fyffe, and form one of the most impressive monocultures ever. Until all the world's plantations succumb to the same environmental challenge and go kaput simultaneously...

But I may be wrong. How about you, Clive?

Date: 2010/09/27 12:40:59, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Maya @ Sep. 27 2010,11:43)
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Clive's fandom of Comfort seems to be in a minority, even among UD regulars. Even Barry Arrington is not on board.

So, does Comfort use the banana as proof of god or not?  I'm very confused by his presentation, but don't actually care enough to work very hard to figure out his position.  ;-)

Extemporizing wildly here (and why not, considering the club we're currently discussing), I'd hazard a guess that the fallen fruits of gods own tree, his inadvertent gift to humanity, would be the only "kind" suitable for direct consumption in this world, whereas all those wild, un-cloned varieties which need cooking will have to wait until after The fires of Perjury (or is that Pergatoraid?) and Rapetour. Anyway. Position irrelevant! Waterlol!

(You may spit and flush now.)

Date: 2010/10/06 16:04:43, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Oct. 06 2010,13:50)
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Dembski must be busy with other things. ...

Isn't he writing a book together with Denise?

Under the same cover, yeah heh heh heh. The book of two backs, heh heh. Better shave his sweater heh heh. Dddddddrrenisembski will be the title.

Date: 2010/10/19 17:03:15, Link
Author: Rrr
Quote (J-Dog @ Oct. 19 2010,10:54)
Amadan - I am not sure either, but I think you are correct.  And for True Irony, ™ DaveScot's legacy... that he was inspiration for poetry*!!!

He's probably preening and bragging about it this morning.

Maybe someone that is in touch with him spiritually could channel a DaveScottian response or two.


* Using the term very loosely

Well, potery's place is obviously Teh Barfroom Wall.
Where else could someone channel Yeast?
(Whoever he was. The man ain't got no culture!)*
And don't forget the Great Cardigan ptoo-ptoo Flannel Feast.

Sorry I'm not a poe, otherwise I might have bean able to make it rhyme with slime.

You guys have my admiration for surely.

*(attribution: P. Simon; or maybe he was just R. McNamara'd into submission. Alright, so I'm dating myself here, what else can I do?)

Date: 2010/10/19 17:20:14, Link
Author: Rrr
... I just discovered, somebody tapped my phone!

But it's alright now. Everybody must get this groove!

 

 

 

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