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Date: 2006/06/27 20:51:31, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Regarding afdave's post on Baruch Spinoza, I found this on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:

"Spinoza denied that Moses wrote all, or even most of the Torah. The references in the Pentateuch to Moses in the third person; the narration of his death and, particularly, of events following his death; and the fact that some places are called by names that they did not bear in the time of Moses all "make it clear beyond a shadow of doubt" that the writings commonly referred to as "the Five Books of Moses" were, in fact, written by someone who lived many generations after Moses. Moses did, to be sure, compose some books of history and of law; and remnants of those long lost books can be found in the Pentateuch. But the Torah as we have it, as well as other books of the Hebrew Bible (such as Joshua, Judges, Samuel and Kings) were written neither by the individuals whose names they bear nor by any person appearing in them. Spinoza believes that these were, in fact, all composed by a single historian living many generations after the events narrated, and that this was most likely Ezra. It was the post-exilic leader who took the many writings that had come down to him and began weaving them into a single (but not seamless) narrative. Ezra's work was later completed and supplemented by the editorial labors of others. What we now possess, then, is nothing but a compilation, and a rather mismanaged, haphazard and "mutilated" one at that."
Rather different from what afdave quotes.
A little further down:
"Now in 1670 there was nothing novel in claiming that Moses did not write all of the Torah. Spinoza's most radical and innovative claim, in fact, was to argue that this holds great significance for how Scripture is to be read and interpreted. He was dismayed by the way in which Scripture itself was worshipped, by the reverence accorded to the words on the page rather than to the message they conveyed. If the Bible is an historical (i.e., natural) document, then it should be treated like any other work of nature. The study of Scripture, or Biblical hermeneutics, should therefore proceed as the study of nature, or natural science proceeds: by gathering and evaluating empirical data, that is, by examining the "book" itself -- along with the contextual conditions of its composition -- for its general principles."
The more I read Spinoza, the more I admire the man.

Date: 2006/06/30 20:10:02, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
The entity known as normdoering rapped upon the table and pointedly asked:


You claim there are Sumerian tablets with the names of the patriarchs on them (or something  like that) but you have not produced these tablets. Where are these tablets? In what mueseum? What scholar, at what university, has studied them? Where are their pictures of them?”

As with other unanswered questions, such as ‘who clove the Devil’s foot’ and ‘what was the name Achilles took when he hid among the women,’ we have the Google Oracle, who, once being duly bribed with ‘several gallons of porter’ (I was walking with my I-pod on playing Flogging Molly) and upon being asked the above question, after a round of thunder (it’s hotter than blazes in Vegas and two clashing cells of t-storms were about) promptly, in a voice from beyond the grave, gave the following http addy. Imagine my shock. Seems the AIG people have their own version of the Documentary Hypothesis, which (the standard DH, I mean), as far as I know, is still the version the Presbyterians use in Bible study classes. But they are a bunch of Masonic heterousian (sp?) Heterodox Arian preforeordestinatarian heathenish post-pagan new age heretical do gooder Bible-spinning protesters who gave rise to Alexander Hamilton. . . I digress:

The Wendell-Blundell prism is also quoted in Joseph Campbell’s Masks of God and compared to a much later king-list and the list of Patriarchs (pp 117-120 of Oriental Mythology) and their ages from Adam to the Flood. The names in the WB prism are in Sumerian: A-lulim, Alalgar, Enmenluanna, Eumengalanna, Divine Dummuzi, etc. . .

I guess instead of the names of the Patrichs it is ‘something like that:’ the only phonetic similarity in names is between #5 in the Berossos list, 280 B.C.E. and the King James translation: Megalaros, Mahalel. The AIG makes the case that the Sumerian text is based on an earlier text containing the Genesis genealogy and the huge ages given are a misreading of the Semitic decimal counting system by a Sumerian scribe accustomed to a sexagesimal system.

A close reading does not seem to indicate a strong support for afdaves postion, at least as staded on norm's question, but hey, I was curious and had to find out.

Date: 2006/08/04 19:01:26, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Totally off topic, but I'm soooo jealous. My beatiful Raleigh Pro '72 stolen from the Clark County Court House fourteen years ago was the last truly gorgeous bike I have owned. . .  :(
Nothing like desert wind rushing by riding down the Kyle Canyon Road.  :D
Now back to your regularly scheduled afdave drivel.   ;)

Date: 2006/09/02 15:51:37, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I have watched the afdave debacle for a while, and I have to say that watching some of the people debating him trump his arguments with logic and facts has been fun, but a problematic kind of fun. For me the climactic point was the Portuguese Moment, since I had some background in languages. Afdave, in his insane delusion of grandeur, thinks his ideas in linguistics, all branches of geology, every flavor of physics, any kind of genetics, trumps the work of thousands of scientists in those fields. To debate him takes a team, because he contains multitudes and contradicts himself more than the Good Gray Poet ever did.
I say it's problematic fun beacause I have some things in common with both deadman and afdave: I was born and raised in Colombia in a religious household, and I majored in Anthro, though I dropped out, and I am now an interpreter. As a kid I was devoted to the reading of jungle travel stories and archaeology, and loved meeting people who had actually travelled in the Amazon. I remember specifically SIL linguist Paul Headland dining with us several times, once at the same time as Dr. Orlando Fals-Borda, the Colombian sociologist. I remember thinking that both the missionary-linguist  and the sociologist did what I wanted to do (I was ten or eleven) which was to study traditional people in the remote corners of Colombia. Though my family was very devout, I was not isolated from other influences and my school (Colegio Americano, Presbyterian affiliated) had a high ratio of non-Protestant students, lots of Catholics and Jews and a few Muslim, Buddhists and agnosstics (I believe the term was freethinker; to this day my Mom hopes I haven't become an [/I]atheist[I], a far worse thing.). We were informally trained in debating religious issues and were in fact accustomed to debating among ourselves or with other schoolkids on polite terms, especially with students from the Jesuit schools, a very well prepared bunch.
I also remembered the first time I spoke at home about Evo, in a joking manner: my aunt questioned whether a good Chritian could ever believe he was descended from primates, and said that it was far nicer to beleive in the Biblical account. I learned to not bring it up around her or Mom (Dad was OK with it), but the house was full of magazines with articles on the evolution of man, and I read voraciously, along with anything to do with physics and chemistry.
When I came to the US at twelve it never crossed my mind that evolution was doubted, until a girfriend mentioned LDS students in her high school bringing it up at biology. I have been more aware of fundamentalist thinking since the mid seventies, but the current crop scares me. I have grown up around missionaries, and never met anyone like afdave. His prose style is irritating enough with its folksiness and false bonhomie, but his obtuseness in the face of evidence puts to shame the most recalcitrant criminal defendants I have met. It's horrifying to read his responses, and his repeating of points he's sure he has proven before he moves on to the next item on his list, but then, it's a pleasure to read, say Deaman's exemplarily detailed responses. I have to say that in my opinion afdave earns ninety-nine per cent of the invective directed at him, even when it makes me wince. I can see the point of those that say it's useless to debate the afdaves of the world, but I have seen people change from mindless fundamentalism to, as someone before has described as a wonder at the way things are. Lurkers will look in and some will be influenced. People like me will be moved to keep up their reading and studying. Others will be brickwalled against anything that questions their faith. As for my fatih, the minister that I remember most fondly was a scholar of the Spanish Mystics, and I was influenced by him to study Kiekegaard, Schopenhauer and Unamuno, not a bad group to be influenced by.

Date: 2006/09/03 09:22:41, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Scary, you should write a song about it. :)
I'd move my couch, but I haven't vacuumed since the last interstadial.


Date: 2006/10/28 14:27:36, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 27 2006,10:58)
Una chingada de pinche mamada mierda?

I know it's a day alte but I read this post at work, where I do not post, and only logged on to answer now: deadman, you almost owe the gubmint a new keyboard. I'm a court interpreter and this is the kind of reply I love to translate at formal hearings. Reading this (after wondering with a Public Defender where all the good old cases had gone, such as the one legged Cuban transvestite bank robber), I started to lose the Cwoboy Coffee all over the desk, but managed to restrain myself. Being able to read cussing in four languages is a load of fun.


Date: 2006/11/03 04:37:36, Link
Author: Ra-Úl

I usually like your style and your taste in literature, but must you encourage GoPppy to come to my town? What have I done to you to deserve this sort of tratment? Ask him to go to another cesspool of sin and degradation. We get our supply of weird from advertising in some of the finest publications and more reputable TV sleazefests.

Ra-Ul (no time for tildes today)

Date: 2006/12/03 15:17:11, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (deadman_932 @ Dec. 03 2006,12:23)
I decided to look at "Atom the Immortal"'s blog site and found, I suppose:    
Open the wisdom that's been told from the days of old Unfold the dinosaur descriptions in the book of Job Behold the king of all the beast upon the face of the globe Pyrotechnically bestowed and ferocious and bold Stronger than King Kong his eyes are red like the dawn... Fire and steam from nostrils if you jostle this collosel [sic] then he might get hostile We believe these proportions describe dinosaurs that lived among men such as Stegasaraurus [!] remembered as dragons is how there [sic] reported Recorded through time every culture supports it
Power and strength of behemoth swinging his tail like a cedar log Head above the treetops a herbivore who eats grass like an ox He can never be caught he lives in lakes and lochs Among the lotus plants and reeds is where this monster rocks [ah, the famed Loch lotus ] Just another unknown like the Yeti and Sasquatch  Bones like bronze, he's the chief of the ways of God [?] No one can threaten him or catch him off guard Stone reliefs of these fabulous [maybe he means they're FAH-bu-lous rather than mythical] beasts from Hercules to the dragon Jason battled for the Golden Fleece I know it's hard to conceive what ancient people believed but every culture agrees from the Greek to Chinese Feathered serpents with wings, the Basilisk and the Sphinx, the Hydra, Chimera and the Griffin and Banshee [rhyming "Chinese " with "Banshee" was a stroke of genius]
So take your radiometric decay and your carbon 14 and just put it away We won't be swayed from the truth by your nonsense We will protest and request you change contents and recognize that you built your claims on pretense and admit that evolution is a myth of pseudoscience Some scientists wont admit that being athiest [:p] could make them biased when interpreting the evidence.  

Now that's ART.

Yo, so word up scientist ho's -- quit your lyin' and defiance of the LORD.
The dragons of Job are like the bombardier beetle, you'll get bitch-slapped when you whine and wheedle 'cause God's gonna teach you 'bout the camel and needle.
Don't jostle this collosel, 'cause He might get hostile! (don't sweat me about spelling, I'm a f___in' artist, dammit)

DM: Did you happen to look at his list of heroes? Pretty peculiar for a potential ID'er who can talk to the young:Che, Sub-comandante Marcos . . . oh and that should be 'tha' immortal. Next time you're in Vegas come out and rhyme with us. Anyone rhyming needle and wheedle deserves a free hookah and a shot. . . and that's a waterpipe hookah, suh, not a working girl. ;)

Date: 2006/12/17 14:55:29, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 17 2006,13:20)
Kristine you are witty.

Because I still have my wits.
So I would not ridicule prominent writers as Nietzsche or Nabokov who ridiculed darwinism.

Then quit associating Nietzsche or Nabokov with your ridiculous ideas. Nabokov especially were he alive would have a lot of fun ridiculing you. Read Despair and see yourself in the character Hermann (especially appropriate here for choosing and failing to pass himself off as another character in the book).

Oh. By the way:
If Truth is a woman, what then?
—Friedrich Nietszche :D

Hmmm. . . wasn't V.N. an expert in the evolution of blues? Never,to my admittedly spotty recollection, read him ridiculing Darwin. Do recollect reading that he had a project in mind to study paintings of butterflies through the centuries to see traces of evolution (Shades of the Vane sisters. . .) in action. Also, Gould had some criticism of VN's low opinion of the place of genetics in taxonomy; ah, the passion of science, the precision of poetry. Pity some people will experience neither.


Date: 2006/12/28 23:07:03, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I was born in Bogota, Colombia; moved to Las Vegas at 12, so it's not my fault. I stayed here most of my life os that's my fault. Studied off and on (anthro and chem), mostly off, 'cause it was the sixties and seventies and the eighties. . . I'm 56. I worked for years as a free-lance interpreter (Spanish) and now work as a staff interpreter. . .I guess it's a real job. I play guitar (some off brand acoustic steell string, a Yamaha classical with a piezo, which I think of as my main ax if I had a main ax, which I do, in my dreams, and a cobbled together from random necks and bodies w/DiMarzios for more delicate work), classical and rock, with some formal composition and theory. I listen as behooves my old fart status to Crimso, Miles, Hendrix, Ravi, Bach, Tool, Beethoven, Warren Zevon, Tim & Jeff Buckley, Tom Waits oh, ####, a lot of stuff, and read Borges, Nabokov and Garcia Marquez (Jumping Jehosaphat, I was going to hyphenate that, may the goddess Caffeina forgive my arrant knavery . . . work's been rough, what with Mexican Midget Matadors and the odd Cuban one legged transvestite bank robber), I think I'm Presbyterian but for the whole pesky Calvinist thing, and admire the Founding Fathers, Bolivar, Darwin, Cate Blanchett in pointy ears and Kate Beckinsale in leather.

Ra-Ul, who has a cool sig file somewhere in cyberspace quoting Poe and Valery. . .

Date: 2006/12/29 01:06:05, Link
Author: Ra-Úl

Gotta love that Howie! I used to go to the city library (when we had only one) and read Lolita when I was 16, because it had been banned. Ditto Lawrence, who bored me, and just about anything I wasn't supposed to read. Read Don Quixote at eleven, but so did most of my friends (in Spanish editions the back section has a great guide to the different oaths curses and insults in the book. It's a great idea that should be used in all editions of Shakespeare) so I thought I should be able to read whatever I wanted. Dylan Thomas made me want to write, Marquez reinforced that in Spanish. I write in English only, though. My Spanish can't touch my English and it certainly does not come up to mi\y idea of decent prose.


Date: 2006/12/29 12:03:25, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
In re: guitar stuff (geez, what a musical bunch . . .does afdave play an accordion? No, wait, zydeco has rehabilitated the squeeze box. The marimba? Nah . . . the triangle . . . )


La guitarra

The weeping of the guitar begins.
The dawn’s drinking glasses are broken.
The weeping of the guitar begins.
It’s useless to quiet her.
It’s impossible to hush her.
It weeps monotonously,
like the water weeps,
like the wind wails
over the fallen snow.
It’s impossible to hush her.
It weeps for distant things.
Warm southern sands
that long for white camellias.
It weeps, a targetless arrow,
an afternoon with no morning,
and the first dead bird on the branches.
Oh, Guitar!
A heart mortally wounded
by five blades.

(All mistakes or misreadings and willfull distortions mine)


Date: 2006/12/30 20:19:10, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I do play classical guitar, limited to Baroque and Renaissance. I got into it from the finger-pickin' school of counterpoint. I sang in too many early music groups in the 80's, a glorious era we shall not see again. And I found out afdave is a keyboard maven, accompanying choir on piano. Rats. I was ready to believe he had no music in his body. Are there no sax players, harpists, ondes-Martelotists or ondiolinists on theis group? No adepts of the tromba marina? No one who can do a figured bass or continuo on the didgeridoo? I could bring in a cute punk-rock tuba player.


Date: 2007/01/08 00:37:48, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 07 2007,23:52)
Oops! Double standard!

The interest listed on your profile isn't creepy?

Eeeeeewwww! Now that I've read both posts and the UD thread I feel so dirty. . . and totally out of Festive Welsh Ale. No Chimay in the cellar. No hard liquor. No more afdave thread. And now the visions in my head. I may not sleep tonight. Thanks :angry:

Date: 2007/01/15 21:02:05, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Not that I'm going to be there or anything, but y'all could, like, pring t-shirts with that lovely new portrait of DaveScott on them, and wear them to the shindig. . . naaah. People may get the wrong idea, like you're in a beer-drinking mystery cult with an anti-Bob figurehead or something like that. I'll get the Photoshop started, and the printer sheets for those zombie t-shirts my son makes. . . good times!


Date: 2007/01/31 17:50:26, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 31 2007,17:43)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Jan. 17 2007,01:05)
... lawyers, guns and money.

I've heard this phrase in several different places. It's the name of a blog, it's the name of a song, etc. Anybody know what the origin of the phrase is?

Warren Zevon, the immortal Warren's immortal song "Lawyers, Guns and Money". You're either very very young (anyone at all younger than I am), or, or, oh, heck, this is a thread about civility. . . go download the song and learn it. It comes in handy.


Date: 2007/03/18 12:35:03, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Cases of savant musical performers have been recorded, less of savant poets and novelists, but given the minuscule number of known savants I don't know what meaningful generalizations can be made. Henriett Seth F., a Hungarian, wrote novels and there are cases of savant composers. Do you use savant in the sense of autistic savant? Never really though of Mozart as an autistic savant. Rimbaud wrote verse in Latin well enough to win competitions, wrote 'The Drunken Boat' at 16 and by the time he abandoned writing at 19 had revolutionized French poetry, again, not a case I identify as an autistic savant. Outliers in the arts like Mozart and Rimbaud (Mozart more so) that bloom in childhood or the edge of puberty are not always classed as savants in the autistic sense. Often it seem s to me that savants have extreme gifts for memory and mimicry which I relate to art. I don't think I have an outstanding gift for language, but I found out at 42 that I understood and spoke Italian after about ten minutes with an old man who spoke French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Ladino; I had picked it up when my father studied it at home. I did not differentiate between written Spanish and Portuguese at round 7, and learned to read English and Spanish apparently on my own at the same time. I grew up in a very diverse environment with Portuguese, English, Italian, German, Yiddish, Hebrew and Ladino spoken in the neighborhood and picked up a lot of pieces, but only the Romance languages got organized enough, I suppose because of Spanish is my first language. I also know children who shift with amazing facility between English, Spanish, French and Hebrew, all spoken at home, and children in musical households who pick up styles and mannerisms of different genre of music when the perform, at a very young age, without training in those genre.
I started editing to take out the passive forms in the post and added several typos. . . Sigh.


Date: 2007/03/19 01:48:13, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I'm from Colombia; I grew up in Bogota until I was twelve, and for a few years lived in a neighborhood with a Hebrew school, the Presbyterian school I attended, a building that housed my best friend's mixed Catholic-Jewish family, my German cousins, and the Ambassador of the UAR. My extended family was mixed even then, with Germans, Spanish, East Indians, and Jews, Catholics and Protestants. Here in the US we have the addition of Irish, Scots, Swedes, Italians, Filipinos and Thanksgiving dinners that couldn't be beat.


Date: 2007/03/23 11:47:41, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
¡Feliz Cumpleaños!
& (for all Little Anthony fans out there, and you know who you are)
Shimmy shimmy ko-ko bop!

El Ra-Úl

Date: 2007/04/18 16:35:35, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I came to lurk in AtBC in the wake of Dover; I needed a tard-whuppin' fix and after Judge Jones issued his findings, it was slow going at PT (which I found googling ediacaran fauna), so I followed the afdave pile-on from there here and from here to the Dawkins forum. I really have to cut back on my tard-whuppin' watching and do the dishes more often. J-Dog's school life sounds like mine except he's a youngster, and except also that I'm Colombian and moved to the States at 12. I'm Presbyterian, raised and schooled in a religious home and a Presbyterian school in Bogota. I don't remember ever doubting evo and deep-time cosmology; I studied anthro 'cause of the Life magazine Epic of Man series in the early sixties (in the Spanish version; don't know the title in English and that's the closest translation). I may be what you call religious, but as I said, I read a lot of science as a kid and never doubted anything on religious grounds, had no friends that did so either and creationism was as rude a surprise to me in the US as the extent of racism. I am now a court intepreter.

Date: 2007/04/18 18:11:16, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 18 2007,16:40)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ April 18 2007,16:35)
I am now a court intepreter.





####! I knew I should have spell checked the #### thing! Englis is a language ful of spelling traps! And where did you find my picture, Dave Springer's wallet next to that picture of your wife dressed in a walsus suit begging Dave to father her pups? Watch out or I'll sic the one legged Cuban transvestite bank robber on you, or put the Mexican Midget Matadors on yr ass, pal!
(May I call you pal?)

Date: 2007/04/18 18:15:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Oh, and make that walrus suit. Sheesh.

Date: 2007/04/19 12:23:22, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (k.e @ April 19 2007,01:56)

Tell nanook to take it up with Quinn. I think I gotta lay off the Dylan while at work. I should say that I stay tuned to AtBC beacuse ke, RTH, the Mistress of the divine shimmy and DM among others are always good for a laugh even in the absence of obvious tard-ness to incite them. That is, when they're not after my walrus collection. And leave my narwhal alone you preverted prevaricators. Rilly.

Date: 2007/05/30 16:20:37, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 30 2007,13:35)
I am an archaeologist, but about 17 years ago I started working on how bone is modified after death.  That evolved into a specailty in forensic thaphonomy.  I don't do much anymore.

Dr. Hurd, just a quick question: did you ever meet Dr. Sheilagh Brooks? I just remembered going to her house before a field class and looking out a back window at the bones on her picnic table, wondering whether the neighbors ever looked over the fence (low fences in the neighborhood, IIRC). This was around '72, Las Vegas.

Date: 2007/06/19 00:54:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Doc Bill @ June 18 2007,22:45)
I'd like to say I'm opening at the Sands but does the Sands even exist?

It met its designed end Nov 26 last year, 2:06 am.


Date: 2007/06/19 10:21:17, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 19 2007,07:34)

It met its designed end Nov 26 last year, 2:06 am.

That page says "1996".

Where do you get your time-warps from?

I did too much LDS in the 60's . . . since I live basically down the street from the Sands I should have really remembered it couldn't have been last year, but I still live in the 90's anyway.


Date: 2007/06/19 14:53:30, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 19 2007,13:24)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ June 19 2007,10:21)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 19 2007,07:34)

It met its designed end Nov 26 last year, 2:06 am.

That page says "1996".

Where do you get your time-warps from?

I did too much LDS in the 60's . . . since I live basically down the street from the Sands I should have really remembered it couldn't have been last year, but I still live in the 90's anyway.


You live in Vegas?

I hope you aren't drinking the tap water, 'cause that would explain it, if you were.

We have tap water? That thing we use for model rocket fuel is water? Sheesh. I think the time warp is just cause by breathing too much dust from the implosions, and I live two miles from the Strip . . . first we got to glow in the dark from the atmospheric nukes (used to watch them from the church roof) and then we had to drink industrially processed water, and then came the implosions. I don't drink water. I drin Bishop's finger ale and Aguardiente.


Date: 2007/06/19 14:54:52, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (J-Dog @ June 19 2007,14:05)
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 19 2007,13:24)
That page says "1996".

Where do you get your time-warps from?

I did too much LDS in the 60's . . . since I live basically down the street from the Sands I should have really remembered it couldn't have been last year, but I still live in the 90's anyway.[/quote]
Wow, far out man!  You did LDS while me and my group was doing LSD!  

Dude! I just couldn't get off on those Mormons (Latter Day Saints).  They kept getting stuck up my nose.

Hey, it's a Star Trek quote . . . the movie with the whales and transparent aluminium . . .


Date: 2007/06/19 15:49:45, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 19 2007,15:12)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ June 19 2007,14:53)
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 19 2007,13:24)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ June 19 2007,10:21)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 19 2007,07:34)

It met its designed end Nov 26 last year, 2:06 am.

That page says "1996".

Where do you get your time-warps from?

I did too much LDS in the 60's . . . since I live basically down the street from the Sands I should have really remembered it couldn't have been last year, but I still live in the 90's anyway.


You live in Vegas?

I hope you aren't drinking the tap water, 'cause that would explain it, if you were.

We have tap water? That thing we use for model rocket fuel is water? Sheesh. I think the time warp is just cause by breathing too much dust from the implosions, and I live two miles from the Strip . . . first we got to glow in the dark from the atmospheric nukes (used to watch them from the church roof) and then we had to drink industrially processed water, and then came the implosions. I don't drink water. I drin Bishop's finger ale and Aguardiente.


Everyone I've ever met who actually came from Las Vegas has been a complete loon. Is this accurate, or just a horribly unfair sweeping generalization based on far too small a sampling?

Yes, this place is full of loonies. As the old ad for a stand-up comedy lounge used to say : 'cause in a town full of nude ice skaters needs a few laughs.' Aside from the tourist aspect we are in a way a part of the social sewer system of the republic, where every one used to come to hide out, change identity, disappear from the charted part of civilizatio, a distan serai in the desert. We have, sadly, lost part of that aspect, but kept the nude ice skaters. In exchange we get good cheap liquor store open 24/7. And nude ice skaters have their own allure.


Date: 2007/06/29 16:42:49, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Louis @ June 29 2007,16:00)
P.S. Steve. LESS tequila? Oh no my friend, there must always be MORE tequila.

Or más tequila . . . or cerveza, or mezcal or whatever. It’s the weekend. Knock yourself out.

Date: 2007/11/20 17:48:04, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
OK. I swore I wan't going to join in a list of favorite movies, but I can't resist.
Silent: The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, The Passion of Joan of Arc, Nosferatu.
Later: The Philadelphia Story, Holiday, Bringing up Baby, Citizen Kane, The Third Man, The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, Zatoichi (oh, just pick one).
Still later: LOTR (pointy ears on Cate Blanchett . . .), Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, there's a long list of Chinese movies and Samurai movies that I can't even remember by name I watched with my girlfriend for her film classes. The Iron Giant, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle. I watch too much cable. . .
I loved The Name of the Rose (book) as much as is possible without shading into sexual idolatry, as much almost as Lolita or Gravity's Rainbow, but the movie is exactly as described in Trainspotting. Don't go see Beowolf, even if I think a cartoon Angelina J is kinda sexy speaking Anglish of the old school. I'd prefer Cate B.

Date: 2007/12/11 15:16:02, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I read Flannery O'Connor right after re-reading Joyce's Dubliners, and found some deep similarities and sympathies, and was at the same time apalled by some of their more, uh, idiosyncratic characters. I love the audio "Ulysses". For a foreign-born, English as second language reader, there is no substitute to hearing the local Doric. I remember a girlfriend's mother coming into the den while gf and I watched The Commitments, and asking us what language the movie was in. Joyce's difficulties for foreigners are almost always a matter of rendering accents.

Date: 2007/12/13 00:51:58, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (stp2007 @ Dec. 12 2007,21:39)
Remember that Dave is fundamentally harmless.

I disagree he is breeding.

I happen to believe in the fundamental rectitude of people like afdave . . .

Date: 2008/03/07 12:41:05, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
My son, now 18, was home schooled because his mother thought the public school environment was turning him into a little beast; she though his dislexia was not being properly addressed, also. The result is not an astonishingly accomplished student, but a well-adjusted young man. Heddle's example of students doing vcalculus at a ninth grade age, seems to me something done by parents who both value mathematics and who know calculus. Tom is not science oriented, but Tom's mother and I both know mathematics and science, specifically human paleontology and osteology, and he has a good grasp of biology. His main accomplishements are in art and language: his writing is exemplary, for a young person who learned to read around twelve, his vocabulary extensive and precise. He reads his work in public, he blogs his drawings and stories, and will go to college to work on both. Considering the often casual job we did with him, I think most of the credit goes to a wilfull but curious boy who was not really adedicated student, but who came out of this ahead of his age group in language, and at least at his age group in social studies, math and science. It takes more dedication than I had, but his mom did not work for years to ensure his instruction. She took education courses at a local university, and had a school teacher friend help with his curriculum. I have friends who home schooled their children because thei lived in isolated areas, and who have gotten their children into Ivy League schools. They are liberals, Christian but not fundamentalists, and accept modern science. Not all home schoolers are reactionary science deniers, and some become able teachers even in areas that are not their main strengths.


Date: 2008/03/07 13:37:13, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 07 2008,12:07)
How is it that I can fly from NC to Vegas for $99 each way, but from here to WV is $450 one way?

How is it that I can fly from Jacksonville to WV with a connection in Charlotte for $450, but flying directly from Charlotte is $800?

How is it that I have to go through 30 minutes of "press 1 if you want to pick your nose while flying" and "your business is important to us, please continue to hold" to spend 3 minutes talking to a real live person?

The mysteries of the airline industry will forever be opaque to me.

I live in Las Vegas. I stayed in WV for two months, once. I t seemed like two months, anyway. Girlfriend motives (those paleoanthropologists . . .) I think it should cost you $800.00 plus gas to go to WV. Dave Barry once said the reason WV wanted to legalize gambling was so there'd be another reason to be in WV other than your plane crashed there.
Apologies to a lovely state, but I just re-read Crum, a book about the town of the same name and memories of biking through Kentucky and West Virginia came flooding back.


Date: 2008/03/08 18:33:47, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
My son was home schooled because his mother felt the school environment was too rough and because his dyslexia was not properly addressed. My grandnephew will most probably be home schooled because his mother feels he will be a bully target due to a growth factor deficiency and other disorders that keep him from eating normally. He's an active, even athletic boy and independent-minded, and my niece feels that she can best help him schooling him at home. Like my son's mother, she has a degree and her husband is in the Navy, so it is an option for her.
Part of the reason for home schooling my son was, strange enough, what Kate and I saw as a poor science curriculum for a boy who loved dinosaurs and model rockets. We used conversation games to teach him: one I remember was a debate between us about Bigfoot, where we used breeding population size, diet, range, ecology, etc., to tech him things he had difficulty reading. He may not like to debate, but he can be deadly, because he learned verbal skills by talking, not reading. His spelling is till marginal, but his writing is now excellent. As far as socialization, he had friends and relatives his age, but it was when at 15 he started to read his writing at slams and coffee house poetry groups that he bloomed. There are community groups that can serve to socialize children, not all school or church connected, such as drama, reading clubs, sports or game clubs, and parents can start their own or look for support groups. Kate, as I mentioned, did take education classes (her degree is Physical Anthro.) and we have friends who are teachers (science and art) and large families with children of all ages. Science and math are a big challenge, but art, social sciences and verbal/writing skills are just as important. We emerged from this with even more respect for teachers than we had before. Local schools in Nevada are not adequately funded and education is a political football.


Date: 2008/03/24 12:30:05, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 24 2008,07:44)
Lesson: How to clear a (virtual) room quickly:

1. Bachelor of Civil Law
2. Solicitor, Republic of Ireland
3. Solicitor, England and Wales

Hello? Is there anyone . . .

Oh never mind.

What is a BCL? I'm not familiar with British jurisprudence and Law studies, and what I do know is based on reading way too much Dickens, in Spanish translation, as a 12 year old. I see you are a solicitor; what kind of practice do you have? As a solicitor, do you deal with criminal matters? And what do solicitors drink?


Date: 2008/04/03 14:48:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I commuted by bike till I was forty and carried a knife. I had the attitude that no one would bother a crazy long hair with a knife riding around the projects past midnight. I also ran or walked late at night, until I was mugged last year by two young men shopping for an I-Pod. One distracted me (I was on the phone) and the other hit me and grabbed my I-pod in one admirably executed movement. The police came in about a minute and were very amused at my playlist (Flogging Molly and Cristobla de Morales' Missa Mille Regretz; I guess they thought that was punishment enough for the two punks). I remember thinking I could take one of the guys, but not two, and that if they had wanted more, I should throw them my wallet and sprint for home. Had this been ten years ago it may have turned out differently because I was as rash at 48 as I was at 28 and not in nearly as good a shape. Brains and common sense can be much better than the false sense of security you get from weapons and fighting skills.


Date: 2008/04/03 15:30:29, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
There is no better way to wait for the inevitable weekend meltdown/thursday PZ Myers gate crashing, than by reading a Brian Boyd article. Thanks and perky shimmies, Kristine. The sense of play exists in other species. We have more to play with: words, stories, music, painting. Reading Nabokov or reading Hoftstadter is pleasing to eye, mind, ear and spirit.

Date: 2008/04/22 14:38:18, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Kristine @ April 22 2008,09:40)
Behe man or Behe beast… ;)

Behe Moth? I'm sure it's been said before, so I'd say Im quoting. Happy Birthday, ERV and may yer pit bull share in your joy!


PS I liked RTH's birthday verse. I'm easily amused. I'm also a foreigner.

Date: 2008/05/02 13:26:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Miguel de Unamuno:

"San Manuel Bueno, mártir" (Saint Manuel the Good, Martyr) (1930) — a brief novella that synthesizes virtually all of Unamuno's thought. The novella centres on a heroic priest who has lost his faith in immortality, yet says nothing of his doubts to his parishioners, not wanting to disturb their faith, which he recognizes is a necessary support for their lives.

Headmaster/ Boy's Dean at my school in Bogota used to preach sermons on that text.


Date: 2008/05/05 12:47:47, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 05 2008,06:31)
Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone.

El Matador Dos, by solcookie

Lou, could you hold on to the calaveras at least til Día de los Muertos?  Or is that meant to represent a dead French trooper from the battle of Puebla? In any case, a case of virtual Tequila Añejo to you and all present, and to absent friends. Salud!

Ra-Ul (not a Mexican, but I can do the accent and use the correct curse words on request)

Date: 2008/05/06 16:30:23, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 06 2008,16:08)
Trying to bring it back to biology:

AB is the biggest importer or rice in the US. That's why your beer is so sickly sweet. They use crap loads of rice.

Real men drink gourmet civet beer.

Rice? Good pimpled skateboarding long bearded god! Rice, you say? Have we no Beer Purity Laws in this country?
"I value kindness to human beings first of all, and kindness to animals. I don't respect the law; I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper, and old men and women warmer in the winter, and happier in the summer." (Brendan Behan)
In the spirit of that quote, I think we ought to have a decent beer law that would allow someone like AB to brew their abominable swill if and only if the drinkers were made to wear burkhas and bunny ears in public.
Rice. Geeeez. Aux barricades!

Date: 2008/05/17 23:03:36, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 17 2008,20:35)
Any body here ever heard the Punch Brothers?

They do indescribably skillful, symphonic, contemporary (in a compositional sense), quite beautiful blue grass, of all things.

E.g. "The Blind Leaving the Blind" suite in four movements on the CD Punch.

Thanks for the tip, Bill. Early Stravinsky meets Bill Monroe and goes for an all night pub crawl with Ramblin' era Ornette with Nick Drake on the radio. For some reason the Ramones were cued up after the Punch Brothers on the Napster playlist, and they fit . . . And I'm sober as a Bishop. Ok, a Mormon bishop.

Date: 2008/05/22 15:58:47, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (J-Dog @ May 22 2008,15:02)
Quote (Louis @ May 22 2008,13:09)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 22 2008,15:36)
I'm confused. Why can't labor organizers be considered intelligent?

Hmmmmm I'm going to go with:

Holy more than one meaning for a word, Batman!



P.S. Anyway, isn't the real question whether or not labour organisers are designed? Quick, Robin, to the Bat Explanatory Filter!

Ah Ha! Don't worry Little Robin!  The Evil Dr. Darwinist has made a play on words, and as everyone knows, puns are considered the lowest form of humor *.

AOL = American Academy Of Language

**AOL = American Organized Labor? (? AFL = American Federation of Labor)

**Is this what you meant Wes???

* - Not counting farty noises, which are lower, both literally and figuratively.

A possible derivation of 'redneck' is the use or red neckerchiefs by West Virgina miners at Blair Mountain . . . other possible derivation is that Scottish Covenanters wore red neck cloths to signify signing the covenants with their own blood (and here I am, descended (maybe) from Scots Presbyterian lowlanders.  Sigh).
I believe Wesley refers to the Blair Mountain miners who fought for the right to organize.

Date: 2008/06/24 13:43:57, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 24 2008,12:36)
I suppose if you repeat something often enough, it becomes TRVE.

But only if you're a 'heterogenious'. . .

Date: 2008/07/01 14:04:30, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Cedric Katesby @ July 01 2008,11:35)
"What's truly sad about that is there are anthropologists whose work focuses entirely on the study of cultural discovery and use of foods and spices."

I wouldn't mind betting that Deadman would have some interesting things to say on the subject.
Anybody heard from him lately?

DM is over at the Talk Rational origins and evolution threads schooling ol' afdave. Along with other atbc iidb and Dawkins veterans like Eric Murphy. By the way, afdave is still wrong. Or he is even more wrong. Or something. The 'lunar craters were caused by a battle between Satan and the Angels' is a classic for the ages, with a lovely and admirably executed 180 by Dave; when a poster quoted one of Dave's beloved creo sources as having said that, Dave said "knee slapper", only to say this a few posts later: "Wow. I stand corrected. He DID write that on pp 66-67. Yes, I have the book. Amazing. I do see where he's coming from now though and I can follow his logic although I think it would be an impossible to theory to validate until we get to Heaven and ask God in person." Thomas Pynchon could not invent this guy.


Date: 2008/07/01 14:39:01, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 01 2008,14:11)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ July 01 2008,15:04)
The 'lunar craters were caused by a battle between Satan and the Angels' is a classic for the ages, with a lovely and admirably executed 180 by Dave; when a poster quoted one of Dave's beloved creo sources as having said that, Dave said "knee slapper", only to say this a few posts later: "Wow. I stand corrected. He DID write that on pp 66-67. Yes, I have the book. Amazing. I do see where he's coming from now though and I can follow his logic although I think it would be an impossible to theory to validate until we get to Heaven and ask God in person." Thomas Pynchon could not invent this guy.



So sorry. I thought I had :

Date: 2008/07/19 23:05:37, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,20:22)
Quote (Assassinator @ July 19 2008,18:34)
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,15:27)
Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

My gód that's depressing, the sad Youtube comments say the same. But ofcourse I'm not easely moved, but that's just because I'm a bitter person ;)

Anyway, a classmate (well, ex-classmate now, bye bye Bio-informatics :() of mine showed me this. Awesome stuff really, makes me a
(snip image)
Happy pandaaa!!!

Depressing?  I found it mellow and romantic.  In fact, you've been looking kind of cute lately...


Lou! For the Assassinator's sake, I hope you meant the Panda. The girls are having a bad spanky influence on you. Not that a bad spanky influnece is a bad thing. I'll go back to listening to the Puppini Sisters do 'Walk Like an Egyptian'.


Date: 2008/07/21 14:29:53, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Henry J @ July 21 2008,13:30)
Never mind what other interesting features have been found on Tiktaalik -- it's still a fish "kind" to the creobot mind.

Maybe if one takes "kind" to mean the same as "clade"... ;)


I see a new revolution in baraminology being born. Years from now baraminologists everywhere will ask each other where they were 7/21/08, when the first glimpse of the New Knowledge was revealed.

Date: 2008/07/28 12:01:04, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 28 2008,11:40)
Alpha-fail Vox Gay accuses me thusly:

"European is a superset of English."

Not in the cultural context. Only an American would say something like that.

Well call me Cletus!  :angry:

Awreetus Awrightus!

Date: 2008/07/28 19:25:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 28 2008,12:37)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ July 28 2008,13:01)
Awreetus Awrightus!

Pom-pom pom-pom-po-po-pom pom, Po-po-po pom-pom bro-po-po-po-pom, A-rum-pa-pom-pom a-rum-pa-pom-pom, A-rum-pa-pom-pom.

La la la la la la la la la la la la rum-pam!

Rat-ta-da da-dah!

Still the greatest lyrics to any song in any language . . .

Date: 2008/08/06 00:05:19, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 05 2008,23:40)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 05 2008,19:16)
somebody wake me up when you get a fiddler in here.

Here's a start.

"78's are hard to find
You just can't get that shellac since the war . . ."

Haven't been to a real old time fiddler's contest since '69, I think, In Central Washington, where a very young Mark O'connor was starting to play.
Acid jaz is teh gay.

Date: 2008/08/07 01:29:18, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 06 2008,15:24)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 06 2008,06:07)
bruce molsky

one of my favorite contemporary old time fiddlers.

Agreed. I have this CD of him and it's splendid. He's also really good with old guitar styles.

On the same page of youtube there's a pitifully short 'Cotton Eyed Joe' with Bruce singing: there's one moment where his raspy voice sounds like one of the strings. Can't tell the tuning, but it fit his voice gorgeously. Sent shivers up my spine.

Arden, that JB fotage is effing awesome. Love the Godfather.

Date: 2008/08/14 11:21:26, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Theory of Gravity - no.
Law of Gravity - yes.

Is the 'Law of Gravity' congruent with 'Inteligent Falling'? Just asking.

Date: 2008/08/24 12:49:15, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 24 2008,11:09)
Wow, he told us. I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to discover that ScienceBlogs is all about Kate Bekinsale, Spongebob, and Scotch tape.  :O

All my searches involve Kate Beckinsale + leather.

Date: 2008/08/25 23:29:12, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 29 2008,22:44)
just got out of Tom Waits show.  don't miss it.  wait too late they are sold out everywhere else.  haha.  was great.

Oh, yeah, now you tell us, now that I paid the power bill by candlelight, yeah, now I should have plenty of money left over to pay for a scalped ticket . . . never have gotten to see him. Damn these hellacious desert summers! Damn the gas prices! Geez, I may not have been to a concert since Warren Zevon's last tour. Yep. No since then. I have no life.

Date: 2008/08/28 19:03:18, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
A tell-tale quote from the designers web page:
"Years ago, everybody knew that the earth was flat. Everybody knew that the sun revolved around the earth. Today, everybody knows that life on earth is either the result of random evolution or the work of a supernatural God. Or is it? In “Message from the Designers”, Rael presents us with a third option: that all life on earth was created by advanced scientists from another world. During a UFO encounter in 1973, he was given the first of a series of messages, face to face, by one of these designers.
Those messages now lie within the pages of this book"

I'm glad they admit it.

Date: 2008/09/07 15:32:47, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 07 2008,15:07)

Of course, you can assert and protect your freedom in the USA, but you could do it a heck of a lot more effectively if you redesigned your constitution.

I'm very opposed to a redesigning of the Constitution (except for abolishing the Electoral College). This isn't 1789. Extremist loonies and special interests would hijack the whole process. People as smart and secular as Adams and Jefferson wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the committees. Ironically, Jefferson would never be elected president now, since he'd be called 'too liberal', 'elitist' and 'not Christian'. Fox would do dozens of shows about his disdain for flag pins and how people wouldn't want to have a beer with him.

Plus he probably smells kind of bad by now.

Sometime in the '60s or 70's, a political announcement aired in the US, in which former Supreme Court Justice, later UN Ambassador, Arthur Goldberg, and Phyllis Schalfly (it's hard not to spell it Shoo-fly as some of my parent's friends at the time did) campaigned against a Constitutional convention, citing as an argument that a Convention would have carte blanche to do anything, even doing away with the Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus and the reserve clause. I reasoned then as I do now that if a Convention scared both Goldberg (an American liberal, for those of you in Europe and elsewhere) and Schlafly (I shudder as I type that name), then it is a Bad Thing.

Edited 'cause I'm a furriner, can't spell, and my typing, especially in the dark, is atrocious.
Re-edited to add an 'f' somewhere.
R-e'd to ditto a 'd'. Damn.

Date: 2008/09/11 12:16:46, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 11 2008,11:57)
Quote (jeffox @ Sep. 10 2008,23:40)
Otherwise, like you wrote, Lou; my days are beginning to blend together also.  Second quiz tomorrow in Precalc.

Yeah, took my second last night, think I did pretty well. We'll be having them every Wednesday night from here out.

Got my Spanish exam from Tuesday back this morning:


(two small misspellings and one use of the wrong verb - I used soy instead of estoy - but I nailed the extra credit)

I seem to be keeping mi cabeza above la agua.

Quote (jeffox @ Sep. 10 2008,23:40)
I hope that all the other current students are having a good time and learning a lot, too!

I'll second that emotion.

Uhmmm . . . "el agua." Feminine nouns beginning with a stressed 'a' (or 'ha') take the "el" article in singular form, and the "las" def. article in plural: "las aguas." Why? Revenge for English spelling. Really.

Date: 2008/09/22 19:00:59, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 21 2008,22:06)
After salsa dancing with the missus, I have to ask: is there a better salsa song than Smooth, by Santana? I mean seriously. Is there anything better.

As a red blooded Colombian I'd have to answer that 'Smooth' (and I am a Carlos fan) is to salsa as Velveeta is to actual cheese. Not that Salsa is cheese. Though you can put cheese in salsa . . . what was I chattering about?

edited to move an 'a.'

Date: 2008/09/29 21:32:56, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2008,14:35)
There's a Salsa version of Santa Baby, but for the life of me I can't find out who it's by. Anybody know?

Sheila E?  Latin Jazz Christmas, Concord label? Only thing I can think of . . .

Date: 2008/10/07 13:30:59, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 07 2008,11:07)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 07 2008,01:06)
The only problem with Swiftian satire, or even just simple humour, is that not everyone understands that it's satire/humour. To those who do, I apologise for the footnotes, they are unnecessary and patronising. To those who don't, and FTK I am thinking of you particularly here, they are very necessary.


Shouldn't that be "Dickensian satire"?*

* This is satire/humour.**

** I apologise if you found the footnote unnecessary.***

*** Or patronising.

This whole footnote fest reminds me of what a friend said when he heard David Foster Wallace had died:
"Oh, did he leave a footnote."

Date: 2008/10/07 14:44:03, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I think the wrinkly pale Repug does not correspond to a classical instrument. Maybe a cheap knock-off Malaysian copy of a bad American knock-off of a low-end Martin, but not a classical guitar. Sheesh.

Date: 2008/10/09 00:04:15, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 08 2008,22:27)
I got it. It took me a while, but eventually I got it.

I have no idea what political side I'm in, but I am with you in thinking the GOP sold its soul with the 'Southern Strategy' post Goldwater. I still think Will writes better English than most people in the planet, and consider fiscal responsibility and restraint a Holy Grail. Or a grail-shaped beacon.
I have conservative female friends who well into the 90's still gave the right wing of the party a pass on abortion, until one of them got a job running fund raisng for a local politician with the proviso he didn't bring abortion into the race. One morning she found out he was leading an anti abortion march, parked her car in front of the not-very-impressive crowd, told him 'kiss your money goodbye' and quit the campaign. She still considers herself a conservative, despises fundies and backs reproductive rights . . . Don't know what to make of the whole thing any more.

Date: 2008/10/11 23:00:02, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 11 2008,21:09)
Now spinning: Ella Sings Gershwin.

Monaural LP released by Decca Records in 1946. Very sweet.

Sitting one early fall evening in '98 in the patio of a coffee house on Fourth and Coolidge in Las Vegas, the barista, a thin young man who played stand up bass in what was kindly described as a spaghetti-western band, legendary for its hour-long tune-ups, looked up at the speakers as Ella sang 'But Not For Me,' and said, [/I]That's[I]the perfect record, Ella Sings the Gershwin Songbook." That's the truth.

Date: 2008/11/15 16:46:13, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 14 2008,22:31)

Our fair white knight has ridden the ugly dog backwards into the fading amber hues of the setting sun of materialism, onward, yet ever onward, searching the barren postmodern landscape for the tattered ruins of yesterday's windmills, a nomad, a vagabond, a wanderer, a pilgrim of the twilight of man's quest for something greater than himself, a modern post-atheist heretical gypsy, a bold gladiator for the truth that lives in man's heart, is printed on the backdrop of the winter sky, and that drives the blagella of fracterium on this planet and anywhere else in that has been touched the infinite wavelength designing beam of the great Reckoner; aye and our tragic hero will not rest until these great shackles have been torn asunder and the villagers are emancipated from the captivity of the narratives of liberal elitist positivism.  

Kumbaya, Kumbaya.

Erasmus (an honorable name, you know), you have not only cause me to simultaneously sneeze tea on the old laptop screen and drool bits of the 87% cacao bar I was munching on all around my desk, but have provided me me with an almost Nabokovian sense of pity for one's opponents. You have allowed me a moment of sanity while tilting away at the DMV. If it was not for this bit and the Ramones in in the background, I would have exploded with rage, instead I am happily gigglinb, reading you and ke and all the other artistes of the assassin pun, the verbal poniard, the murderous metaphor and the tard slaying simile. Geez, I'm so happy I could just go down to the DMV and register in person . . .

Date: 2008/12/01 11:41:02, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 01 2008,07:59)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 30 2008,22:13)
Repeal Science for the Holidays, Just $25.95!

The Cincinnati Zoo has teamed up with the Creation Museum for a holiday combo ticket offer.

Somebody should be losing his or her job over this one!

Ok. Which one of you CBEB'S has the 'Expel' button? I think it's high to use the damn thing, otherwise why even have it.

Date: 2008/12/06 15:14:52, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 06 2008,08:56)
Maybe I am just easy to entertain, but yesterday afternoon, right before heading out for dinner, I popped over to UD to see if Prof. Oloffson was continuing his spanking of PaV. I was amused to find that UD is expanding their advertisement program beyond linking to the various buy-my-books.  Observe:

New motto for UD: Serving Pizza to the Intelligent Design Community.

Date: 2008/12/08 14:15:02, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 08 2008,05:39)
Quote (Louis @ Dec. 08 2008,04:21)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 08 2008,01:12)
Quote (keiths @ Dec. 07 2008,19:03)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 07 2008,15:24)
 Apologies for Janie's silence of late, but school has me busy.

She was oversexed anyway.

There is such a thing????




Ceiling Cat

An example: 7:12am on a Saturday morning, your head is throbbing, your mouth tastes of stale beer and vomit and your only desire in life is to go back to sleep until the pain goes away and she chirps, "Oh look honey!  I found the handcuffs and the enema syringe!!"

As Garrett Morris asked Mick Jagger after denouncing the lyrics to 'Some Girls:' got any numbers?

Date: 2009/01/09 11:47:54, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 09 2009,10:49)
And, French and Spanish make...

. . . Provençal . . .
In 1963 my mother in conversation with our new minister described the birthing techniques at the hospital she was goint o give birth in shortly. He then quoted the "in pain shalt thou bear children" bit from Genesis. After the minister left I heard mom tell dad something to the effect that she'd like to hear the young new minister tell his own wife about that . . .

Date: 2009/01/12 12:33:28, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 12 2009,07:33)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 11 2009,21:33)
Gil Dodg'em:
I’ve been called every name in the book, the most common being IDiot.

Click here for just one such example of the vitriol to which I’ve been subjected. I could give you hundreds of more examples.

Gil - we can create more instances if that would be helpful. Post something on simulation to get us started.

We could even help establish Gil's reputation globally!

Gil Dodgem es muy estupido y idiota.

Ja, Gil Dodgem est ein dumkopf!

Now, we need Advocatus to put it into Moon Language, and Jeannot or The New French Guy into French, and perhaps, over time, the world could be united with it's opinion of Gil and ID.

Now add the Spanish to the French and insult him in Catalunyan.
Not that I'm about to post Catalunyan, 'cause I don't want a war on my conscience.

Date: 2009/01/17 19:40:31, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 17 2009,19:09)
So, based on this statement, I would henceforth call Ben Stein a MORON and that would be "bad" because I'm assassinating his character and not addressing his argument.  However, his argument is MORONIC so what does that leave me with?

OK, Louis, I used "with" at the end of a sentence.  So, sue me.  Louis and I are only left with mockery because there is no avenue for discussion.

Creationists are morons.  I rest my case.

Prepositional stranding is proper English. Ask Churchill. I know he's dead, but he's my authority on this.
As usual with my posts on grammar or spelling, I had to edit this one four times before posting.

Date: 2009/02/12 01:12:52, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (khan @ Feb. 11 2009,22:23)
Now one fine night they leave the pool hall headin' for the dance at the Armory
Libertine men and scarlet women and ragtime.
Shameless music that'll grab your son, your daughter into the arms of a jungle animal
Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground, trouble!

. . . with a capital 'T' and that stands for 'Tard.' Right here in River City.

Date: 2009/02/18 23:26:10, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (deadman_932 @ Feb. 18 2009,23:12)
I'm amazed anyone could make heads or tails of that word salad of RFJE's.

Right. And I've been reading ke for years

edited to fix tags

Date: 2009/02/24 15:00:50, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (deadman_932 @ Feb. 24 2009,13:40)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 24 2009,13:04)

My favorite bit would have to be the pufferfish inexplicably hanging from the ceiling.

For some reason, monkey-in-fez depictions have become a theme in Tiki art (thus the pufferfish) : . See the Dave Wong stuff.
I *like* tiki kitsch and I'm collecting Tiki-style stuff for my home bar, but I'll be damned if I'll find a place for fez-monkey paintings.

When (if) you come to Vegas I'll take you Frankie's Tiki Room. Home away from home, strange drinks and tiki decor by Bamboo Ben.

Date: 2009/03/19 18:39:29, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 19 2009,16:18)
I've been commenting at UD (I'm kellogg) but I've got to pull back.  It is fucking depressing to try and engage in civil conversation with the regulars there. Not kairosfocus, he's just kind of fun, or joseph, who is a baby/bully, but the seemingly more civil folks who turn out to be full of ID marshmallow fluff.  They are like the big snot monster that attacks a city (I forget which) in the opening page of Gravity's Rainbow.  Talk is impossible, because they'll suck you up. Talk injures my (material) soul.

Adenoid Monster. London. Apparently Lord Blatherard Osmo's adenoid. I worry that I know this. OK, I don't.

Date: 2009/03/25 12:24:06, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (KCdgw @ Mar. 25 2009,08:21)
The Pentangle, Sweet Child.


Pentangle, Basket of Light for Jacqui's most exquisite singing.

ETA: an 'e,' 'cause there are never enough.

Date: 2009/04/10 15:33:24, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Feliz cumpleanos al Poeta Laureado de las Islas Felices! Yes, I left an 'ñ' out, but it seems more fitting that way, and I like the Becket quote: "and so grow gently old down all the unchanging days," the gently part being optional, not obligatory.
Don't go sticking it anywhere it don't belong!

Date: 2009/05/19 16:23:54, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 19 2009,09:11)
Or even more blatantly, that bunch called the Bloodhound Gang

You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals
so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

Maybe more blatant, but Porter rhymes.

Date: 2009/05/20 15:48:55, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 19 2009,20:42)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ May 19 2009,17:23)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 19 2009,09:11)
Or even more blatantly, that bunch called the Bloodhound Gang

You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals
so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

Maybe more blatant, but Porter rhymes.

Cole Porter song = Intelligent Design!

I always thought so.

Date: 2009/06/11 14:36:37, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ June 11 2009,00:16)
Enjoying a little Java à la Mingus whilst perusing the latest in high tard...

Totally cool. I was just listening to Mood Indigo from the Mingus Dynasty album, and remembering the first time I heard Mingus.
Not saying when.

Date: 2009/08/15 21:55:14, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 15 2009,14:40)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Aug. 15 2009,14:31)
ok, I hurt my head listening to John Mark Reynolds for an hour. Math proves God, If you read Gary Habermas you will believe, so if you don't believe you must be wrong. gah

Does he subscribe to Big Tent Math, in which 6000 is equivalent to 4.5 billion?

If they taught Big Tent Math when I was in school I'd be a PHD in something Big Tent Mathy by now. I likes Big Tent Math. I could run a bank with that.

Date: 2009/09/12 18:04:52, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
"See Tchaikovsky’s musical score for another measure of prior specified complexity that could be compared with the audio frequency analysis."

See John Cage's musical score for 4' 33" for another measure of prior specified complexity that could be compared with the audio frequency analysis. I'm waiting.

Date: 2010/05/27 14:01:35, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Quack @ May 27 2010,12:13)
Judging by the publication date, it must be more than forty years since I read Meet My Maker the Mad Molecule by J P Donleavy.

Just wanted to mention it if you, like me,  got f-ed up with current trend of 'bestseller' literature.

(And even longer than that since I read The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut. Or Cat's Cradle. Kurt was good back then but I couldn't stand his later works.) Too much nonsense for me, but should go down well for Pratchett lovers...)

I loved Donleavy back in the sixties and seventies. He write bestsellers like MMMTMM and The Beastly Beatitudes of Balthasar B that would never sell more than five copies today. I'm still looking for my copy of The Onion Eaters . . .
Sirens of Titan is the last good Vonnegut, too.

Date: 2010/06/15 13:22:10, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
I think any post with the term 'Teutonic Plates' has to be worth some kind of award.

Date: 2010/06/15 13:47:38, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Skimmed it. She who must Never Be Ignored and I write fiction and loony rhetoric is a useful thing.

Date: 2010/06/23 14:32:04, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Feliz Cumpleaños, Mr. Deadman! Notice the use of the ‘ñ,’ ‘cause cumple-anos sounds and looks downright unpleasant.

Date: 2010/07/03 14:30:08, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Feliz cumpleanos. I can't afford a tilde.

Date: 2010/08/23 19:28:03, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (olegt @ Aug. 22 2010,21:00)
The thread on nested hierarchies and set theory at Joe's blog has grown to 757 comments.  This is one gigantic monument to teh stupid.  

Here is one of my favorites, where Joe is trying to tell the world that an empty set {} is no different from a set containing an empty set {{}}.
Again we have two people-

Person A has an empty set

Person B also has an empty set (everyone has an empty set) but B has put that empty set inside of another empty set.

Both A and B are in an otherwise empty room.

You enter the room with the purpose of figuring out who has the empty set and who has the set containing the empty set.

However you cannot ask any questions or say anything at all.

All you have are your powers of observation.

How do you tell which person just has the empty set?

This must be the zen of stupid.  

I also love Joe's inimitable writing style.  His paragraphs are always one sentence long.

Didn't Beckett write a paper on this? Or maybe it was a play . . .

Date: 2010/09/10 15:11:19, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Quack @ Sep. 10 2010,03:11)
Quote (Quack @ Sep. 09 2010,15:27)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Sep. 09 2010,11:51)
Quote (Robin @ Sep. 08 2010,13:44)
Quote (Pilchard @ Aug. 30 2010,18:25)

The fact is that monkeys and humans do not behave similarly in key ways, as should be obvious. Otherwise, why are they in our zoos and we are not in theirs?
Has she not seen Planet of the Apes?

How 'bout because monkeys think it's unethical to have zoos in the first place, nevermind their feelings against keeping humans.

I know, I know...I'm chiming in waaaay late on this, but I'm just back from vacation and catching up on my giggles.

There is a common assignment in Physical Anthro classes to go to a zoo with a "behavioral checklist" to be filled out watching some monkeys.

I would send 1/2 my students to the shopping mall instead of the zoo, and we would then compare their results.

I have often in a shopping mall looked at people around me, wondering what's the difference?

In the house's smallest room before going to bed, the subject was still rummaging my brain and I got to thinking about a certain chimp researcher in Africa and all 'her' chimpanzees eternal search for and effort to get bananas. The only name that came up was Dian Fossey, probably because the story of her life made such an impression on me but googling today got me the name I knew was there, of course Jane Goodall.

But I have never been able to remember the family name of Birute, the Orang Utan member of the triumvirate, even if I once decided I wanted to keep all three names in my memory.

It is all just me. You may now proceed with your usual business.

ETA chimpanzees instead of monkeys

Birute Galdikas! Can't forget a name like that!

Date: 2011/10/24 14:05:58, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?


'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

Date: 2011/10/24 15:58:39, Link
Author: Ra-Úl
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,15:21)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,20:05)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?


'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

I was referring to AFDave's much laughed at claim that Portuguese is a mixture of Spanish and French. So when JohnW asked (tongue in cheek I am guessing) if our new chew toy is AFDave's Portuguese cousin, well, it was an obvious in-joke.


I know. I am an afdave stalker. I just wanted to find a pun on 'forastero' in Spanish and Portugese (or French, but my French is worse than can be imagined) an could not work one out. I am disappointed in my multilingual punning ability.