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Date: 2007/09/21 09:40:03, Link 83.200.153.39
Author: Pappy Jack
Quote (afdave @ Sep. 19 2007,11:53)
I accept the evidence for an asteroid impact.  But there was never any such period in real history known as "The Cretaceous."  This is an artificial time demarcation created by those who believe the earth is very old.  And most evidence indicates that it is not very old.  So I guess that makes the answer 'yes' and 'no.'

Well, if you accept the evidence for the K/T impact event, you must be fairly confident that the evidence for other impact events as collated by the Earth Impact Database folks is reasonably reliable? From their estimates of the terrestrial cratering rate, they reckon a K/T event occurs once every 50-100 million years. From your perspective, this rate is obviously nonsense as the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. However, if the cratering rate is based on a count of actual, observed events, then in and of itself it must be an absolute and can be applied to whatever timespan we believe the Earth to have existed? My simple sense of math leads me to make this uncomplicated comparison:

'Deep Time' age of Earth: c.4.5byo (rounded for simplicity)
'YEC' age of Earth: c.10kyo (upper limit used)
Rate of K/T impacts ('Deep Time'): every 50-100my
Probable no. of K/T impacts ('Deep Time' - lower rate used): 45
Probable no. of K/T impacts applied to 'YEC' dating: 1 every 222 years

I am sure you can kick all sorts of holes in this logic (I can myself), but as the EID lists a total of seven impact events with diameters >50% that of the K/T event and no fewer than 41 with diameters of at least 20km (reckoned to produce atmospheric blow-out and nuclear winter effects)
the K/T monsters that have been identified occurred every 1,430 years under the 'YEC' model or, if you really think they are all post-flud, even more frequently (every 720 years). Make the same back-of-an-envelope calculations for those of 20kms or greater and its every 250 years (10,000 years) or every 125 years (post-flud). Or did they all occur within a few short weeks/months/years of the flud? If they did, how come nobody noticed?

Date: 2007/09/21 16:13:10, Link 86.201.224.220
Author: Pappy Jack
afdave said this:
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An asteroid hitting the earth way off in the vicinity of the Yucatan (where nobody probably lived yet ... this asteroid probably hit pre-Babel) was probably not a newsworthy event to a people who had just survived a cataclysm the nature and scale of the Global Flood.

and then afdave said this:
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Who said the asteroid hit AFTER the Flood?

Dave, I think folk have spotted this one. Is this a deliberate mistake, forgetfulness, cognitive dissonance, a joke, or what? I mean, if you're going to contradict yourself on the same page, even the dumbest of us is going to notice....

Date: 2007/09/21 16:29:47, Link 86.201.224.220
Author: Pappy Jack
Quote (jeannot @ Sep. 21 2007,16:20)
Pfff, we already know his answer:

"you guys are funny. I never said it hit the Earth after the Flood, I said probably. Big difference."

Yes, no doubt he'll apply the same 'logic' to the 173 other impact events in the Earth Impact Database, not to mention the 40 that were atmospheric blow-out events and bringers of nuclear winter.....

Date: 2007/09/21 18:29:14, Link 86.201.224.220
Author: Pappy Jack
Quote (ericmurphy @ Sep. 21 2007,18:19)
Dave, where is your actual freaking evidence that Chicxulub occurred within the past 100,000 years? You've been presented with abundant, consilient evidence that it occurred 65,000,000 years ago. Who cares what your "view" is on the subject? Where is your evidence that supports your view?

You don't have any, do you?

Where is your evidence that dinosaurs existed within the past 50 million years, let alone contemporaneously with humans? Your "view" is utterly worthless without supporting evidence.

You don't have any, do you?

What you said, Eric, plus - what about all those other Earth impacters, Dave? When did they happen? When were those other 40 atmosphere-penetrating events? How did everyone get through those nuclear winters? How come nobody noticed anything? How come nobody wrote about it? After all, if Moses got Genesis from Adam's notes, pretty much every society in your YEC fantasy history must have been able to write.

Date: 2007/09/23 06:28:28, Link 82.125.186.159
Author: Pappy Jack
Quote (afdave @ Sep. 23 2007,06:11)
WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO CONVINCE A SKEPTIC THAT GOD EXISTS?

Click here ... http://afdave/wordpress.com ... to find out the answer for at least one skeptic.  A very surprising answer.

Your spavined nag of an argument falls yet again at the fence labelled 'evidence'.

 

 

 

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