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Date: 2013/04/08 15:09:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 07 2013,08:54)
Over at UD, Sewell asks why scientists don't believe in invisible gray elephants.


Surely, this immediately exposes the flaw in Sewell's argument - invisible elephants are inevitably pink.

Date: 2013/06/03 07:28:31, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ June 02 2013,23:28)
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 02 2013,19:35)
William J Murray wants to be in YOUR sig line:

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I do, however, believe I am an aspect of god cloaked in individual characteristics and limitations.

Trumped by Byers: "We are made in God's image therefore we think like Gods."


This is appears to be a classical example of self-refutation.

Date: 2013/06/04 15:45:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ June 04 2013,15:22)
Quote (N.Wells @ June 04 2013,15:24)
Ogre is right that it's impossible to pick any particular sentence as worse than the others, but I rather admire "Sensory readings to form the conditional part of a hypothesis is on the other side and running parallel to bus lines that control Guess that produces the antecedent of a hypotheses where it turns out as in earlier velociraptor related example the conditional that produced the hypothesis that they wrote in cursive makes no sense what produced it yet a testable hypothesis is none the less there."

Add some out-of-place hyphens and a "here" or two, and it would be perfect.


Are you suggestng that the only successful argument that could be Marshalled against Gary is one that would drown him out?

Date: 2013/06/07 08:44:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Thrinaxodon @ June 07 2013,08:41)
Quote (fnxtr @ June 06 2013,19:57)
[Graffiti moved to Bathroom Wall. - Lou FCD]<br/><br/>Okay, that's Markuzian.

No, I'm not Markuze. Murkuze would have a Montreal IP. I have multiple (i.e. proxy).


Markuzihausen-by-proxy?

Date: 2013/06/11 15:51:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ June 11 2013,15:02)
Quote (stevestory @ June 11 2013,14:31)
Okay, I had a post about a great exchange on UD, but after 4 edits the board software was still fucking it all up so just go here if you want to see a really stupid post from O'Leary and some really funny and caustic responses.

Darwin did indeed marry into money, but he raised a bunch of kids and parted life with more money than he started with.

I find it interesting that a site associated with political conservatism finds money management and investment "not working."

Has O'Leary gone pinko?

Ms O'Leary's research clearly did not extend to reading Emma Darwin's Wikipedia entry, where her antecedents are explicitly described as "not part of the aristocracy". She has also not noticed that Darwin's mother was a Wedgwood as well....

Do we need to start counting down to the next Lady Hope outing?

Date: 2013/07/01 14:56:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ July 01 2013,03:18)
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I didn't say that Gauger "was" related to the troll king in the Hobbit, I said she "might have been." Sheesh, picky picky!

Hey, I liked the troll king.

Are you allowed to unlike the troll king without being eaten?

Date: 2013/07/17 09:28:56, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ July 16 2013,09:52)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 16 2013,08:30)
 
Quote (didymos @ July 16 2013,02:14)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 15 2013,22:18)
 
Quote (Arctodus23 @ July 15 2013,23:53)
Gary, what is a 'RAM'???

Random Access Memory

And please spare me the usual "but RNA and DNA never changes" because if that were true then you would not exist. The reason why should be obvious in a forum like this one that proclaims DNA-RAM has changed over time and bullies those who expect more information than just that.

DNA isn't RAM, GarGar. Hyphenating does not make it so.

Which of the two memory types (RAM or ROM) DNA is, is not for you to decide, anyway.

Probably some kind of eeprom.

What a lot of superficial thinking Gary is doing!

1. DNA is *not* RAM - it is more like ROM. Once a strand of DNA is generated, it doesn't change, bar "accidents" which are akin to bit changes in silicon RAM due to the passage of cosmic rays. The important point (which is what the creationists, etc, miss) is that the DNA is *copied*.

2. The term "RAM" is misused. It originated in the 1950s/60s to distinguish ferrite core memory (in which the time to access a memory location is largely independent of its address) for early technologies, such as delay lines and magnetic drums, where you had to wait for the word that you were addressing to arrive in the CPU. The term "ROM" emerged because it matched nicely with "RAM". They are not properly antonyms.

Perhaps Gary's "theory" would fit better with Alan Turing's proposed memory technology.....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013......._memory

.... and if it doesn't work, Gary can still drown his sorrows.

Date: 2013/07/18 06:36:34, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Patrick @ July 17 2013,21:22)
Quote (Driver @ July 17 2013,21:05)
Gordon at his most cowardly.

 
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This is for the record, that it may stand in witness regarding what has been going on for far too long and in the name of all that is decent, must now stop. END


As much as I abhor violence, I really would love to slap him hard about the face with a herring.

I'm afraid I'm less enlightened. I'd like to see him soaked in oil of ad hominem and chased about by the children of Montserrat waving sparklers.

You're not sufficiently ambitious. Why not try planting the idea that he'd be ideal for appeasing the volcano god.

Date: 2013/07/18 11:31:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 17 2013,20:20)
Quote (KevinB @ July 17 2013,09:28)
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ July 16 2013,09:52)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 16 2013,08:30)
 
Quote (didymos @ July 16 2013,02:14)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 15 2013,22:18)
 
Quote (Arctodus23 @ July 15 2013,23:53)
Gary, what is a 'RAM'???

Random Access Memory

And please spare me the usual "but RNA and DNA never changes" because if that were true then you would not exist. The reason why should be obvious in a forum like this one that proclaims DNA-RAM has changed over time and bullies those who expect more information than just that.

DNA isn't RAM, GarGar. Hyphenating does not make it so.

Which of the two memory types (RAM or ROM) DNA is, is not for you to decide, anyway.

Probably some kind of eeprom.

What a lot of superficial thinking Gary is doing!

1. DNA is *not* RAM - it is more like ROM. Once a strand of DNA is generated, it doesn't change, bar "accidents" which are akin to bit changes in silicon RAM due to the passage of cosmic rays. The important point (which is what the creationists, etc, miss) is that the DNA is *copied*.

2. The term "RAM" is misused. It originated in the 1950s/60s to distinguish ferrite core memory (in which the time to access a memory location is largely independent of its address) for early technologies, such as delay lines and magnetic drums, where you had to wait for the word that you were addressing to arrive in the CPU. The term "ROM" emerged because it matched nicely with "RAM". They are not properly antonyms.

Perhaps Gary's "theory" would fit better with Alan Turing's proposed memory technology.....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013......._memory

.... and if it doesn't work, Gary can still drown his sorrows.

1) What happens when your hypothesis that "DNA is *not* RAM - it is more like ROM" is tested using fossil evidence and without fudging by using words like "accidents" to ignore transpositions and numerous other complex coding changes that happened through time?

And an EEPROM could be used in a circuit that would store memory in it like RAM, but you then used an additional circuit to turn EEPROM into RAM. It would hold memory after losing electrical power, but in reality losing all cellular power would be fatal anyway, have to stay fed.

2) In a theory like this the word "Random" only adds confusion and it would be nice to change it to something else but "RAM" is what it's already called, and I have to be specific in regards to which kind of memory system is required to model a process where in the case of our molecular intelligence is estimated to be at least a few billion years old today.

Which only proves that Gary is as confused about computer memory technologies as he is about DNA.

An individual strand of DNA, once generated, is largely fixed. There are all sorts of things that can change a DNA strand, but there is no process that goes through and systematically changes all the DNA for an organism (unfortunately for gene therapy!) Rather, there are random accidents that modify individual strands (ionising radiation, chemical agents, viruses, etc)

The cell uses DNA as a source of patterns for complex chemicals in order for the cell to function. It does not, as a rule, "write back" to the DNA, (although, since biology is not constrained by the "rules" that humans apply to it, no-one ought to be surprised by a counter-example.)

And during reproduction, the daughter organism gets a *copy* of the parent's DNA (with extra "shuffle" for sexual reproduction.)

Is Gary thinking of the "comic book" view of mutation, where exposure to "radiation" directly modifies the form of the exposed organism?

Date: 2013/07/22 14:21:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ July 22 2013,02:50)
Quote (keiths @ July 22 2013,10:29)
I enjoy watching JWTruthInLove, a Jehovah's Witness, taking potshots at the trinitarians at UD.

Barry posted this under the title "Hmmm...":
 
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I want a god that I can understand.

I want a circle that is square.

JWTruthInLove responded:
 
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1+1+1=1

Following my banning, he or she wrote:
 
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Banning keiths was an unintelligent cowards move (I suspect a trinitarian) and now keiths can play the martyr-card.

More here. Hey JW, who's worse in your book, atheists or trinitarians?

On a scale out of 10?

Atheists are right up there with Baptist's and Mormons.

While I'm sure that your assigned scores are right, Mormons aren't Trinitarians, so JW will have to find a different excuse.

Date: 2013/08/02 07:25:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 02 2013,00:22)
Color me perverse, but I'd love to see a book by Robert Byers. To hell with amateurs like William J. Murray. I want the Real Tard, the kind of tard that floats in free space, with bits of it totally unencumbered by any connection to reality. Tard so thin you can drink it through a straw and so thick you can eat it with chopsticks. Tard that will start a new religion, The One True Religion.

I can't tell whether you are speculating on Mr Byres' putative literary efforts or on the contents of a septic tank!

Incidentally, DonaldM's essay at UD has not yet attracted any comment pointing out that there is a distinction between "Methodological Naturalism" and "Philosophical Naturalism" (the latter being his choice.)

Date: 2013/08/06 14:52:44, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (steve_h @ Aug. 06 2013,14:30)
creation.com/mark-h-armitage (july 15th 2013 from google cache)
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Mark Armitage studied biology and plant pathology at the University of Florida. He holds an MS in Biology with emphasis in electron microscopy from the ICR Graduate School. His photomicrographs have been featured on the covers of seven scientific journals and he has published widely on parasitology. He is currently enrolled in a doctoral program at Liberty University. He also teaches fundamentals of biology, electron microscopy and performs research at Azusa Pacific University. Mr Armitage is a Life Member of the Creation Research Society.

Since then it has grown to  
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Mark H. Armitage earned a BS in Education from Liberty University and an MS in Biology (parasitology), under Richard Lumsden (Ph.D. Rice and Dean of Tulane Universitys graduate program) at the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego, CA. He later graduated Ed.S. in Science Education from Liberty University and is a doctoral candidate there.

Mark grew up in a military family and lived in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for 15 years. He became a Christian when he was a college senior, studying plant pathology at the University of Florida, and his family withdrew support from him.

His experience in the business sector includes Olympus Corporation of America and Carl Zeiss. In 1984 he founded a microscope sales and service company and has been in business for 29 years. He was awarded a US patent for an optical inspection device in 1993.

Marks micrographs have appeared on the covers of eleven scientific journals, and he has many technical publications on microscopic phenomena in such journals as American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis, Microscopy Today and Acta Histochemica, among others. His career in teaching at educational institutions includes Masters College Azusa Pacific University and California State University Northridge.

Mark managed a working electron microscopy laboratory (SEM and TEM) at the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego. In 2003 he moved his laboratory to the Creation Research Society Van Andel Creation Research Center in AZ. His lab is still vibrant and is still producing publications.

Until recently, Mark served as the Manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the Biology Department at California State University Northridge. Mark was suddenly terminated by the Biology Department when his discovery of soft tissues in Triceratops horn was published in Acta Histochemica.

He is currently seeking relief in a legal action for wrongful termination and religious discrimination by the University.

Markss other unique discoveries include the discovery of two new species of trematodes and the reporting of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds, and the first ever discovery of soft tissues inside a Triceratops horn from the Hell Creek Formation in Montana.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the Board of Directors since 2006. Mark is a member of the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.


The internet archive contains several entries featuring him here which all describe him as a "Instructional Support Technician"

Either there's been a tense-update failure, or he's doing a lot of different jobs at the same time. He may have got into trouble for using the University's resources for his other affiliations.

Of course, he might have been misusing a Tesla coil, been continually trying to sell DVDs to members of the Department, or keeping Bibles in the microscopes. And of course, he might have been on a fixed-term contract and they decided not to renew.

Date: 2013/08/06 15:54:07, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that in the "Information created accidentally, without design" thread, KF hs referred to the "Enigma codes".

The Enigma was, of course, a *cipher* machine. The output stream had the same number of characters as the input stream.

A code, in crude terms, replaces words (or phrases) with other words/phrases. There is no direct relationship between the plaintext stream and the encoded one.

Date: 2013/08/21 12:15:13, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that there is continued hole digging going on over at "that place" on that extremely shoddy OP about the misogynistic tweeting against the campaign to ensure that English banknotes continue to include one with a female subject. I don't think that at any point was it suggested that Darwin be removed from the 10 pound note; he is actually going because they change the designs every 10 years or so, to make it more difficult for the counterfeiters.

As far as I recollect, the only fuss that was made about the Darwin 10 pound note was from people complaining that Charles Dickens (the previous incumbent) was being replaced by somebody that "noone had heard of.

When it comes time for this "Uncommonly Dense Thread 4" to be taken out of circulation because it is full, could we perhaps redress the gender balance on AtBC by naming the successor thread "Unpleasantly Denyse"?

Date: 2013/08/22 14:16:45, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Kattarina98 @ Aug. 22 2013,14:00)
Oh noes - Sal, physicist extraordinaire, wants to C-14-date dinosaurs!
http://tinyurl.com/lsk9ruy....lsk9ruy

Can we C-14-date him and show that he's too young to match his birth certificate, and so must be an imposter?

Date: 2013/08/30 07:25:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 30 2013,03:45)
Mung loves truth. Shame he can't find it.

Either that, or he's just not willing to share.

Date: 2013/09/06 08:34:52, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 06 2013,02:41)
 
Quote (Driver @ Sep. 01 2013,00:22)
 
Quote (Ptaylor @ Sep. 01 2013,05:56)
This could become fun, guessing who-is-News-today?
TSZ link

Definitely Denyse

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If thats true, it is a polite way of saying that most of the Darwinian evolution advocacy your taxes have paid for did not advance knowledge. All those court cases, all that persecution of dissenters. Oh well, twas ever thus.

Definitely Denyse

Undoubtedly Denyse?
Undeniably Denyse?
Unfalsifiably Denyse?

Pick any adverb starting with U Denyse.....

Date: 2013/09/16 16:22:15, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that a new visitor to UD has (in the "Darwin's Dilemma remains unresolved" thread) asked:
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Could someone summarize the evidences that are against the evolution theory? Or summarize the flaws of the theory

Is the real stumbling block going to be "summarize"?

Would anyone like to bet against the likelihood of one of the UD regulars taking it into his head that the question is satirical?

Date: 2013/10/02 07:07:44, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (fnxtr @ Oct. 02 2013,00:50)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Oct. 01 2013,21:21)
Speaking of which, whatever happened to Joe? Seems like a dog's age since I've seen a dozen "You don't have any evidence that anything even replicates" comments jammed into someone else's discussion.

I think he and GinGout are building a new soopersecret lab in his mom's basement.

They're wasting their time, unless Joe's mom is an extinct volcano. :p

Date: 2013/10/18 11:09:27, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 18 2013,06:16)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 18 2013,09:33)
That's not a budgie - it's more like a canary that's been dipped in green paint. I have been told by an authority that I'm not going to argue with that budgies are even more complex.

A cheep argument if ever I've heard one.

I thought a budgie was the Australian analogue of the house sparrow, but with horizontal gene transfer from Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

Date: 2013/10/22 14:14:09, Link
Author: KevinB
I note that Mr Arrington is setting himself up as a expert on the Mathematics of Computation.

My Origins have Halted

This could be fun. Didn't they have a lot of trouble with infinity recently? The Halting Problem is seriously infested with Gdels, and has two different infinities in it.

Mapou has already got out of his depth by referring to the Turing Machine as "a specific type of computing machinery".

We're all doomed.

Date: 2013/10/25 16:00:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,07:39)
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

I've occasionally thought of getting a copy of Paley's Natural Theology, but I can't afford the watch. :)

Date: 2013/11/01 13:28:20, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Glen Davidson @ Oct. 31 2013,21:36)
Vjtorley ignores the real predictions of evolution, and demands a prediction that nobody ever claimed the evolutionary theory could make. Gee, I wonder why...

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My point about setting an upper limit to how much time evolutionary theory will allow for the evolution of life on Earth is a vitally important one. Its no use having a scientific theory that says you need more than 100 million years (say), if that theory is unable to come up with even a ballpark estimate for how long evolution should take, from the first living thing to the life-forms we observe on Earth today. Any theory of origins that could cheerfully accept billions, trillions or even quadrillions of years for the age of the Earth, doesnt deserve to be called a proper scientific theory.


Oh yeah, so how long does ID theory predict that design should take? 3, 4 billion years? Actually, six days seems about right for a very intelligent designer, if a bit generous. Fail, unless, say, the IDiot designer is about as smart as evolutionary processes are.

We do have lower limits for evolution, as 20 million years would almost certainly be too little. Not that evolutionary theory gives very precise lower limits, yet how did that all work out? Oh right, Torley starts with that fact, then moves the goalposts because he didn't like how that turned out. And science owes all of the answers, creationism/ID owes none, because, you know, it's religion. "Pathetic details" are all we're supposed to have, but hey, IDiocy has never aspired so high, so it's supposed to be given a pass.

Glen Davidson

Vjtorley is digging himself a deep hole.

The whole point of his story is that the "Darwinists" (and the Geologists) were insisting that (based on the evidence) the age of the Earth was much greater than Kelvin the Physicist would (based on current physical theories) allow, and that at the end of the day the Darwinists and the Geologists were proved right, and Kelvin was shown to be arguing on an incomplete theoretical framework and was, therefore, wrong.

Let's save the point up for the next time that someone tries to deny Evolution because there is no proven theory about the Origin of Life.

Date: 2013/11/19 06:01:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (timothya @ Nov. 19 2013,02:20)
KF at UD (Comment 32) http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-nicely
 
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The problem we face is that in our time, thanks to the dressing up of the ancient chaos-force of evolutionary materialism in the lab coat, elites and fellow travellers have been busily digging away at the foundations of the dam that restrains the barbarism of the clan blood feud.

I can read the words on the screen, but I am stuffed if I can understand what he means.

I'd like to read it as suggesting that if the scientists keep on pointing out the inconsistencies in "creation science, etc", the incompatibilities between YEC, OEC, ID and von Daniken are going to be exposed, and the whole "Big Tent" strategy is going to end in tears.

I may well be mistaken, however.

Date: 2013/11/28 11:17:15, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Calilasseia @ Nov. 27 2013,19:03)
Since this thread is about 'Clast, a little "heads up" for those unaware of the finer points of his history ...

[1] Over at the now-defunct RDF, he erected over 90 sock puppets to try and circumvent the ban he earned there as a result of multiple instances of discoursive criminality in violation of the FUA there;

[2] He repeated this pattern of behaviour (though with considerably lower fecundity) over at Rational Skepticism;

[3] He has certain traits that can be searched for with respect to his post content, which immediately make seasoned veterans of combat with him smell the odour of socks, if another unheralded user suddenly starts deploying similar post mannerisms.

He also possesses a truly enormous ego. But then, so does Dembski.

Given this previous aetiology, it's worth watching out for this over at other places such as PT.

You're trying to teach a Dasypeltis scabra to suck eggs.

The readers at PT are eternally vigilant (or, at least, suspicious) and when Atheistoclast turns up it's never very long before he hears "Tritt, tritt, trott" on his bridge.

Date: 2013/12/29 17:02:34, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 29 2013,13:57)
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 29 2013,03:40)
 
Quote (olegt @ Dec. 28 2013,15:24)
He's baaaack!

Glad he isn't in my TV, but I am very happy to see him return nonetheless. Can't wait for the next Joe thing.

Probably refining choo-choo math. He's been writing Principia Mathematica 2.

Sequels are very rarely as good as the original.

Date: 2014/01/10 06:54:53, Link
Author: KevinB
I really don't believe that Thrinaxodon is on twitter.

He simply wouldn't fit into 140 characters.

Date: 2014/01/16 06:05:13, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (keiths @ Jan. 15 2014,23:30)
Anyone speak Byersian?

You don't speak it, you sing it to the Dance of the Cuckoos (the Laurel & Hardy theme tunes.)

Did Byers not recently demand the posting of a picture of a Human-Chimpanzee intermediate? He should have been invited to post a selfie.

Date: 2014/01/27 14:43:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Jan. 26 2014,22:36)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 25 2014,21:31)
That would make BA the Bose-Einstein of intelligent design.

You don't want to say that BA77 is cool, do you?

I think he must be suggesting that BA77 is a loudspeaker....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...........ose

Date: 2014/01/31 14:15:43, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 31 2014,10:49)
 
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In the near decade that Ive been watching the Intelligent Design movement, one thing has consistently amazed me: the pathological inability of many ID critics advocates to accurately represent what ID actually is, what claims and assumptions are made on the part of the most noteworthy ID proponents, and so on.

Very, very apt!

It is notable that though the quiz explicitly [purports to] define "evolution", "common descent", etc, it merely asserts
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the bare and basic essentials of Intelligent Design arguments, as offered by Dembski, Behe and others.

So can we use Dembski's "Logos Theology" definition?

Date: 2014/02/03 09:57:18, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 03 2014,09:32)
Is there something in the ID diet that makes them insufferably whiny?

Too many cheese-and-wine parties makes them cheesy and whiny.

Date: 2014/02/17 07:41:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 17 2014,05:34)
Jerry is high on the list of suspects.

You do realise that in the context of this thread CSI means "Complex Specified Information", not "Crime Scene Investigation" ?

Date: 2014/02/20 08:33:23, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 20 2014,08:23)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 20 2014,01:05)
 
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drc466 February 19, 2014 at 4:09 pm
Slightly off-topic point follows

Quick question how many dogs have to give birth, before one gives birth to an octopus?


TAKE THAT DARWINISMS1111!!!!!!!ONEONE

Breathlessly & fevourishly k.e. types ...before Henry beats him to it.

..or gives birth to a Cat-o-nine eight-tails!

But has anyone seen a cat-o-nine-tails turn into a dog-o-nine-tails in the laboratory?!!!

Date: 2014/02/20 15:21:32, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 19 2014,17:50)
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 19 2014,14:55)
Meaning we need not worry about rising ocean levels; the continents will "hydroplane"? Good news indeed!

Only if all the water which flew off to the Kuiper belt, via an otherwise unknown form of orbital mechanics*, comes back.





* Brownian motion?

A fleet of teapots?

Date: 2014/03/04 12:40:59, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that our friend Cornelius has posted over at UD under the title "Heres Darwins Solution for Convergent Evolution: Like Two Inventors Independently Hit on the Very Same Invention

Is he going to reference his marsupial wolf picture as supporting evidence?

Date: 2014/03/07 08:15:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Mar. 06 2014,22:51)
You must try to understand Gordon E. Mullings. He is sitting on a remote 50% uninhabibatable island ....

So do his pyroclastic flow posts & BA77's similar make him feel at home?

Date: 2014/03/10 16:00:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Dear Diary, (supplemental)

Have clarified why Joe's dentist is asking for a reference. Joe is taking up a special offer of a crown, two root canals and a federal law suit. His dentist wants confirmation that Joe isn't a Canadian black UN helicopter operative.

Date: 2014/03/14 07:07:52, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 13 2014,23:32)
His counting keeps thread-hopping. Lets put some noise between the reader and those uncomfortable questions.

A high count rate is not necessarily desirable.

Radioactive Tableware on YouTube

Date: 2014/03/19 13:17:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Is niwrad going to change his "handle" to "notwen", since his mathematics is just as backwards as his biology?

Neil Rickert has alluded to the use of complex numbers in electrical engineering, and noted that in impedance calculations both resistance and reactance are measured in ohms, and "work" together when combined as complex numbers. "Joe" has jumped in and pointed out that  
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Resistance and IMPEDENCE are measured in ohms.

which is true (when spelt right) but he has missed the salient point that all three quantities are measured in the same units.

What is deeper (and which has obviously escaped niwrad) is that the mapping of complex numbers onto the cartesian plane is a consequence of how complex numbers are defined, and that using complex numbers for impedance calculation is merely a convenient fiddle because the definition of complex arithmetic happens to right for the purpose.

I also note that niwrad has put "convection" instead of "convention" throughout a comment. Perhaps he's trying to boost circulation. :)

Date: 2014/03/19 15:14:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (keiths @ Mar. 19 2014,13:57)
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 19 2014,11:17)
"Joe" has jumped in and pointed out that
Quote
Resistance and IMPEDENCE are measured in ohms.

which is true (when spelt right)...

Meanwhile, Denyse's new headline reads:
Quote
The multiverses doesnt need actual evidence


UD is such a clusterfuck.

Why are they so fixated on the "Multiverse"? Real scientists know that it's all speculation and are, in general, waiting for evidence to turn up. Which is, of course, why the polarization of the CMB is interesting. It's fun to watch all the theoreticians with dogs in the fight flapping around trying to make their theories fit the new facts.

The UD lot, for all their posturing, clearly have no concept of how science works.

Date: 2014/03/20 11:37:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Quack @ Mar. 20 2014,09:29)
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 19 2014,13:17)
Is niwrad going to change his "handle" to "notwen", since his mathematics is just as backwards as his biology?

Neil Rickert has alluded to the use of complex numbers in electrical engineering, and noted that in impedance calculations both resistance and reactance are measured in ohms, and "work" together when combined as complex numbers. "Joe" has jumped in and pointed out that
Quote
Resistance and IMPEDENCE are measured in ohms.

which is true (when spelt right) but he has missed the salient point that all three quantities are measured in the same units.

What is deeper (and which has obviously escaped niwrad) is that the mapping of complex numbers onto the cartesian plane is a consequence of how complex numbers are defined, and that using complex numbers for impedance calculation is merely a convenient fiddle because the definition of complex arithmetic happens to right for the purpose.

I also note that niwrad has put "convection" instead of "convention" throughout a comment. Perhaps he's trying to boost circulation. :)

I don't think impedance is synonymous with resistance.

Blame Oliver Heaviside, who also came up with admittance, permittance and reluctance.

If you apply a sinusoidally-varying voltage (let's say, proportional to sin(wt)) the current flowing in the resistor is also proportional to sin(wt). If you do the same for a capacitor or an inductor is proportional to cos(wt) (I'm avoiding minus signs here.) Electrical engineers divide the peak voltage by the peak current and call the ratio reactance.

If you have a network containing resistors, capacitors and inductors, you can work out what the voltages and currents in the network are by treating the resistances and reactances as vectors perpendicular to each other, and combining them using the mathematics of vectors. The resultants are vectors which point in arbitrary directions on the plane (not necessarily the perpendiculars) and these quantities are "impedances".

Electrical engineers use complex numbers for these calculations because complex arithmetic is (sort of) the same as vector arithmetic.

niwrad is graphing two (potentially) independent variables on orthogonal axes - this is perfectly legitimate, and reveals possible dependence. What is not meaningful is trying to combine the vectors joining each of two points on the graph to the origin.

This is effectively what niwrad is doing when he describes his points on his graph as complex numbers rather than just as Cartesian co-ordinates. It is mathematical nonsense, and his whole discussion about Euler, etc, is merely bafflegab to obfuscate the point that his natural/artificial division is based on numbers plucked out of the air, (or possibly some part of his anatomy.)

Date: 2014/03/20 11:42:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (DiEb @ Mar. 20 2014,11:13)
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 19 2014,19:17)
[...]using complex numbers for impedance calculation is merely a convenient fiddle because the definition of complex arithmetic happens to right for the purpose.

no, no, no, complex numbers were designed for this purpose!

Is anyone in a position to ask why niwrad isn't using quaternions, or Clifford algebras?

(or, perhaps, Hundreds, Tens and Units, which he might aspire to actually understand.....)  :p

Date: 2014/04/08 14:57:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 08 2014,12:11)
Quote
At commencement on May 18, the University of Notre Dame will honor [Ken] Miller with the 2014 Laetare Medal, an award given annually to a Catholic whose genius has ennobled the arts and sciences, illustrated the ideals of the Church and enriched the heritage of humanity.


A Slimy question: "Why did they pick Catholic Ken Miller over Catholic Michael Behe?"

Yeah, why? Well, there was this in the text quoted by Slime: "Notre Dame president Fr. John Jenkins describes Miller as an incisive witness both to scientific acumen..."

Ah, yes, that pesky bit about scientific acumen. Well, you can't expect Cordova to care about that, can you?

Glen Davidson

It could be that it because the RCC doesn't think that Astrology is compatible with the "ideals of the Church". :)

http://www.catholic.com/tracts.....trology

Date: 2014/04/16 09:54:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 16 2014,06:52)
And KF is back! He has been busy; after he has succeeded in turning ID into the mainstream paradigm, he has devoted his attention to other fields:
Quote
I have been rather busy elsewhere with issues like AS-AD, Kondratiev waves, Hayeks investment triangle, SD and Schumpeterian creative destruction.

Drat, and they'd only just got these fields cleaned up.

Watch where you're puttng your feet, everyone!

Date: 2014/06/18 13:47:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 18 2014,12:02)
Quote
The results are fascinating, and have incredible implications.

Like implying that Methusalah drowned because he was evil?
:p

Wikipedia says that, depending on the version of the text, he died before the flood.

Mind you, this leads one to ask whether whether the operatives of the springs of the great deep and the floodgates of heaven were champing at the bit waiting for him to pop his clogs, or whether he was humanely euthanised.

Date: 2014/06/20 10:40:13, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ June 20 2014,09:21)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 20 2014,00:51)
Interesting. I know from the pond scum skimming that I have a bunch of hunting spiders out on the surface of the pond.

Duck hunters?

Wabbits?

Or perhaps Cornelius Hunters, whinging that the British Education Secretary has publish standards precluding the teaching of creationism as "science" in any school being paid for by public money.

Corned Beef

Date: 2014/06/24 05:59:56, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ June 23 2014,16:46)
Quote (rossum @ June 23 2014,16:27)
 
Quote (Ptaylor @ June 23 2014,01:26)
Moose DrJune 22, 2014 at 9:57 pm

They seem to think that not only is this amazing computer developed by random chance twiddling, but that every change along the way must, well, compile,

Erm...  Yes, every change does 'compile' into a protein sequence, even if it is the null sequence.  Every codon compiles, i.e. is recognised.  There is no codon sequence that does not code for the equivalent sequence of proteins.

Every DNA sequence compiles.  This guy may know computing, but he does not know biology.  Colour me unsurprised.

rossum

They really don't understand chemistry either.  They have this cartoon view of a couple of molecules sitting around waiting to do one thing in a very neat and tidy way.  No wonder they think it's all designed.  In their universe it's all made out of Legos.

Keto-enol tautomerism would probably make their minds explode as effectively as bisexuality.....

Date: 2014/07/01 05:51:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (didymos @ July 01 2014,00:16)
Quote (stevestory @ June 27 2014,16:29)
 
Quote
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.telicthoughts.com.

   Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com
   If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
   If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....z8z2AGw

I don't think I ever visit, but I gather that a rather more appropriate choice would be

Somewhere on Youtube

Date: 2014/07/01 06:38:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 30 2014,17:20)
So what ya'll are saying is that rock science is over his head?

Geology Lite - Rockette Science

Date: 2014/07/03 06:19:05, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ July 02 2014,22:22)
Quote (JohnW @ July 02 2014,12:20)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 02 2014,09:14)
It continues:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-505981


I love it so!

RB's reduced Gordon to Gaulinesque incoherence now:
   
Quote
That is, rocks, whether raw or refined and organised, are not rising above blind cause-effect chains. That is the context in which we see GIGO at work. Until materialists can show vera causa, they have no right to jump to poof magic emergence or the like.

It's just a matter of time before either Bill gets banned or Gordon has an aneurysm.

You guys may laugh but wait another 500 years and people all over the world will praise the wisdom and the courage of Kairosfocus, pupils will recite from his writings, scholars will discuss his ideas and believers will flagelate themseves with red herings while in a worldwide broadcasted ceremony Pope Gordon XLVII ignites a strawman soaked in the oil of ad hominem to clean the air from the smell of that stinking fish in the world's main sanctuary on Montserrat.

I was going to note that if you have a sufficiently large infinity of multiverses anything could happen.

Then I realised that it's merely a restatement of the Infinite-monkeys-and-Shakespeare proposition, and the light dawned as why UD News will keep banging on about multiverses.

Date: 2014/07/08 11:23:47, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ July 08 2014,11:12)
why does this separate thread exist?

So you that can get your KF undiluted.

KF - less toxic than NaF

Date: 2014/07/10 13:40:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ July 10 2014,09:29)
Quote (olegt @ July 10 2014,09:02)
KF is having a field day with the impossibility  of "square circles:"
   
Quote
An impossible being would be such that it cannot be instantiated without contradiction in core attributes — as classically with a “square circle.”

That is enough to recognise possible [unicorns] vs impossible [square circle] beings.

Also, we see that impossibility of being, e.g. with a square circle pivots on contradictory core attributes leading to infeasibility.

And on and on...

I will admit that I am unaware of any classic problems relating to square circles. What is he talking about? Can someone clue me in?

I am aware of the classic problem of squaring the circle, as in constructing a square with the same area as a given circle using only a compass and straightedge. This has nothing to do with square circles, though.

Am I missing something?

Can God microwave a burrito so hot He can't eat it?

(that's always been my fav version of that philo question)

Based on the anecdotal evidence of the Feeding of the 5,000, He's more likely to opt for a tuna sandwich.

Date: 2014/07/14 09:47:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ July 13 2014,03:36)
EN&V declares William Dembski "A Rock Star of the Intelligent Design Movement".

Well, if he goes round trashing hotel bedrooms, even the Cornell School of Hotel Management won't let him hold "conferences".

Date: 2014/07/15 05:43:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ July 15 2014,03:15)
From the Second Law: In Force Everywhere But Nowhere? thread:
 
Quote
46
Eric AndersonJuly 15, 2014 at 12:28 am

Gordon Davisson @43:
 
Quote

   And that means that if your argument against evolution depends on claiming that the second law forbids such a decrease… you need to get a new argument.


Quite true. Fortunately none of us are making such an argument. :)

In addition, although there might be some kook out there who is making such an argument, but I am not aware of any prominent ID proponent making such an argument.

Did Eric Anderson just call Granville Sewell a kook?

If so, he's also suggesting that Sewell is not a prominent ID proponent.

Date: 2014/07/21 13:36:54, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (The whole truth @ July 21 2014,03:56)
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014.......in.html

Are there separate blogs for

a) Canadians
b) Texans
c) Inhabitants of volcanic Caribbean islands?

Date: 2014/07/21 14:46:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ July 21 2014,14:11)
Not to mention Kentucky... Kansas... Ohio...

I always thought that Kentucky was a recipe for chicken batter.

Which side of the line is Mason, and which is Dixon?

Date: 2014/08/07 07:05:49, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 07 2014,00:24)
johnnyb's latest post: "Do Darwinists Think that Women are Closer to Chimps than Men?"
1. Colossally dumb question, even given your rationale for asking it. Possibly the stupidest thing I have seen there for, well, three days.
2. Jonathan, if you really want to know what 'Darwinists' think, why are you asking a group of creationists who have a track record of misunderstanding them?
UD link

Someone ought to ask "johnnyb" whether he thinks Creationists are closer to God than Darwinists.

Based on any number of police reality TV programs, it's clear that men are closer to chimps after a night out on the booze.

Date: 2014/08/07 14:07:56, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 07 2014,13:28)
I am shocked, *shocked* I tell you that I can find no support for Joe's batshit crazy!

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr....=524464

You're not looking in the right places. There *has* to be a Google group (though that might just be where he finds the images he posts...)

Date: 2014/08/07 15:28:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ Aug. 07 2014,15:06)
Silver Asiatic forgets that ID is a scientific theory:

 
Quote
True, once we reduce human beings to a biological perspective alone, then humans are apes.


Perhaps we can look forward to reading binning the UD magnum opus On The Theology Of Phylogenetics, weighing in at an impressive 3 million words of equivocation and irrelevance.

If BA77 and KF are writing it, 3 million words would barely get them past the contents page.

Date: 2014/08/08 11:19:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 08 2014,11:04)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 08 2014,11:56)
New Joe claim:

"And without the inertia from all the mass there wouldn't be any expansion."

My bachelor's is in physics and I don't have the slightest clue what this is supposed to mean.

ps Linky?

Joe is a Spinster of Twaddle and holds a Doctorate of Spin and the sort of BS that you get from keeping a herd of cattle.

You can't reasonably expect it to mean anything.

Date: 2014/08/13 06:36:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 12 2014,21:53)
 
Quote
And of course the stench of an ill-considered sweater selection...

Just as long as the peppered moths don't get hold of it...

The moths are probably there already - you just can't see them because they've evolved an appropriate colour morph.

Anyway, since <del>cdesign proponentsists</del> Intelligent Design supporters can't tell the difference between naturally-occurring and artificial, Dembski probably wears nylon sweaters.

Date: 2014/08/18 10:53:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ Aug. 18 2014,08:56)
Quote
Today I was watching my 8-month old sleep and how perfectly formed her eyelashes are. I marveled that evolution could, supposedly, make her little eyelashes such an optimal shape and size to confer the slight advantage of having a little less dust in her eyes, but evolution is not powerful enough to cull things like homosexuality out of the population.


link

Argumentum ad homunculus?

Date: 2014/08/20 10:28:06, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 20 2014,09:57)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 19 2014,20:22)
 
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 19 2014,11:59)
KF's artwork is getting more and more Gaulinesque ...

Has GaGa ever posted at UD?

Getting him and KF into a tard-fight would be highly entertaining!

Have they ever been seen in the same room together?

Does Gaga really dress up as a woman and secretly inhabit a Caribbean volcanic island?

Ya gotta admit they're both bananas :]

That's very Comforting.

BTW I didn't think you could secretly inhabit a volcanic island unless you had a white long-haired cat.

Date: 2014/08/21 05:22:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ Aug. 20 2014,11:22)
The world's longest joke begins "Gary Gaulin, Gordon E Mullings, and Vincent Torley walk into a bar..."

You're not going to get to the punchline before the bar closes....

Date: 2014/08/21 13:49:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (N.Wells @ Aug. 21 2014,12:48)
Gary Gaulin wakes up, changes a lightbulb, crosses the road with a chicken*, walks into a bar, and finally realizes that the last decade has been a bad joke.

But was that joke the one that begins

Quote
"Gary Gaulin, Gordon E Mullings, and Vincent Torley walk into a bar..."


?

Date: 2014/08/26 10:25:33, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 26 2014,06:23)
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 26 2014,05:59)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 26 2014,02:43)
   
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 24 2014,21:45)
This is good. vjtorley gives us an "Update on Feser’s response to my post". He waffles on for a few paragraphs and eventually writes:
       
Quote
Astonishingly, after harping on my scientific criticisms of his argument (which were of relatively minor significance), Feser then went on to say that he would not be reading the rest of my post, in which I exposed the logical flaws in his argument:

       
Quote
   Well, don’t worry Vince, I won’t be accusing you of misrepresenting me in whatever it is you have to say in the remainder of this latest post of yours. I haven’t bothered to read it.

vjt writes only two more shortish paragraphs to say that he is stunned, stunned, I tell you.
UD link

And Box responds...
   
Quote
The only cure for vanity is laughter, and the only fault that is laughable is vanity.
Henri Bergson

Aren't you "The censorial anti-ID activist is…Bob O'Hara?" :)

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!

Based on youtr avatar, I was expecting the "Infamy" quote.

Date: 2014/08/27 05:08:23, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ Aug. 26 2014,14:20)
Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 26 2014,15:25)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 26 2014,06:23)
   
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 26 2014,05:59)
   
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 26 2014,02:43)
       
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 24 2014,21:45)
This is good. vjtorley gives us an "Update on Feser’s response to my post". He waffles on for a few paragraphs and eventually writes:
           
Quote
Astonishingly, after harping on my scientific criticisms of his argument (which were of relatively minor significance), Feser then went on to say that he would not be reading the rest of my post, in which I exposed the logical flaws in his argument:

           
Quote
   Well, don’t worry Vince, I won’t be accusing you of misrepresenting me in whatever it is you have to say in the remainder of this latest post of yours. I haven’t bothered to read it.

vjt writes only two more shortish paragraphs to say that he is stunned, stunned, I tell you.
UD link

And Box responds...
       
Quote
The only cure for vanity is laughter, and the only fault that is laughable is vanity.
Henri Bergson

Aren't you "The censorial anti-ID activist is…Bob O'Hara?" :)

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!

Based on youtr avatar, I was expecting the "Infamy" quote.

Born and raised just around the corner from me. I am not referring to Caesar:


Ha! I've just passed this Blue Plaque on the way to work.



This one's nearby as well.



There wasn't room to add "(depending on who they were sleeping with at the time)".

Date: 2014/09/04 06:24:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 03 2014,16:10)
Corny Hunter posts something ordinary about cytoskeleton evolution, leading BatShit77 to post comments involving: Roger Penrose, entropy, deep time, information theory, Behe, death, gravity, Boltzmann, Planck's Christian Theism, C.S. Lewis, Romans 8:20-21, black holes, the quantum Zeno effect, the Shroud of Turin, Quantum Holograms, and multiple bacterial flagella.

He's like a Creationist Energizer Bunny gone berserk.

linky

Did he forget to reference Weikart on Darwin & Hitler, or did you have to withdraw because your shielding had degraded to a critical level?

Date: 2014/09/08 05:36:49, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Sep. 07 2014,03:45)
I wonder why they chose to shorten Winston Ewert's latest title from    
Quote
Digital Irreducible Complexity: A Survey of Irreducible Complexity in Computer Simulations  
to    
Quote
Complexity in Computer Simulations

The original title was obviously reducibly complex.

Perhaps if they dropped the "t" from "Ewert" they would be a little closer to an argument that would hold water.

Date: 2014/09/13 16:36:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Sep. 13 2014,15:46)
Cornhole Hunter must have a lot of time on his hands since no one signed up for his "Darwin Scholars" bullshit.  Now he's back to railing against Judge Jones and those evil Gheys again.

       
Quote
Latest from Corny's Blorg:

Should we point out that evolution is scientifically flawed? Or should we point out that homosexuality, the usual mental gymnastics of evolutionists notwithstanding, makes no sense under evolution? Remember that part about reproductive success?

What a classic mistrial. Jones had been so indoctrinated by the Warfare Thesis that he actually believed the evolutionary propaganda to be historically accurate. If the perfect crime is the one that is never discovered, the perfect propaganda is the one that is never understood. Jones later reminisced about the trial, unbelievably explaining that “I understood the general theme. I’d seen Inherit the Wind.”  Jones was not educated, he was brainwashed.


All traces of "Darwin Scholars" have been removed from the blorg too. Poor lonely Corny.  Maybe he can get JoeTard to post some obscenities for him  :D

He got the name wrong, since he obviously intended "Scholars against Darwin". The people he wanted couldn't handle the double-think.

PS There have been a number of weightist comments. Do these have any connection with the references to fitness functions?

Date: 2014/09/16 08:07:34, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 15 2014,19:46)
Joey just got banned from a blog at FreefromThought blogs.

Holy Cow!  How bad do you have to be to get banned from there!>?!?!?

He tries harder (so much so that it Hertz.)

Date: 2014/09/25 11:12:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 25 2014,09:46)
Quote
Ever since the ID creationist blog Uncommon Descent was taken over by Barry Arrington, it's been a first-class show of the irremediable arrogance and ignorance of creationists. I don't post there because Arrington routinely bans dissent, but I do sometimes enjoy the show.


Ah, that's nice.

Does this mean that UD no longer performs its original function, and is therefore now vestigial?

Date: 2014/09/25 12:27:15, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 25 2014,11:16)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Sep. 25 2014,10:12)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 25 2014,09:46)
   
Quote
Ever since the ID creationist blog Uncommon Descent was taken over by Barry Arrington, it's been a first-class show of the irremediable arrogance and ignorance of creationists. I don't post there because Arrington routinely bans dissent, but I do sometimes enjoy the show.


Ah, that's nice.

Does this mean that UD no longer performs its original function, and is therefore now vestigial?

Well, it certainly wasn't intelligently designed! :p

There has to be a quip about "vestigial brains" there...

Given the recent UD post PZ Myers: Vestigial means “reduced in size or utility compared to homologous organs in other animals” Huh? it's clear that UD is not vestigial by the first measure as long as KF and BA77 are posting there.

Date: 2014/10/07 16:29:20, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 07 2014,14:54)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 07 2014,11:56)
Are choices from the several texts of Hamlet pre-determined, to the extent that a performer (or reader, or student, or adapter) has no discretion as to which they may use? Within those choices, must only entire sets of text be chosen, or may one mix-n-match?

How would Barry account mathematically for any variations between these?

Speaking (typing?) as a recovering lawyer, Barry is - to use a technical term from 13th Century Common Law pleadings - implebitur merda.

Speaking as an unrecovering Yorkshireman, Barry is - to use a technical term from 20th Century Gran rantings - as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Technology moves on.

People will now have to use the phrase "Less useful than a chocolate teapot."

Completely (tea)potty

Date: 2014/10/27 07:35:47, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,16:24)
Quote

600
richOctober 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm

BA77:

“I second gppucio, the quality of posts has certainly taken a nose dive. ,,,”

Could you support that with 800 words of copypasta including 7 YouTube links, please?


810 comments at the moment

I passed through just after Thorton had posted comment 747

This seemed appropriate, particularly since "logically_speaking" at #746 had just asserted

Quote
The barriers to unguided darwinian evolution are, not enough time, not enough chance, has no direction, can only use things it already has, and only gets started when it’s already in progress.


Methinks the claim is a tornado short of a junkyard.

Date: 2014/10/28 12:14:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 28 2014,12:01)
Almost, but not entirely omnipotent.

Just one number short of infinity.

Infinite, for small values of infinity

Date: 2014/11/03 15:32:42, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 03 2014,14:45)
Casey's track record .....

Does it include running into the caboose of a stalled freight train in the vicinity of Canton, Miss?

Date: 2014/11/06 11:41:56, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (rossum @ Nov. 05 2014,16:04)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 05 2014,10:59)
With with a one time pad, we can arbitrarily map anything to anything?

OH DEAR. He's failed before he's started.

Correct.  Given a 600 character string, we can map it to any other 600 character string with a particular key.  It is that property which makes the OTP unbreakable without the key.  You cannot separate the real message from all the other possible messages of that same length.

One of the engineers who maintained equipment at Bletchley Park during the war had a test configuration for the "Tunny" machines (which emulated the German Lorenz cipher machine) which decrypted "Now is the time for all good men..." to "I wandered lonely as a cloud...."

Link

Date: 2014/11/13 10:47:07, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that Mr Arrington has posted a "modest thought experiment", which concludes    
Quote
Now, choose the entity below that most closely fits the description:

1. The multiverse.
2. God.
3. Both of the above (i.e., the description fits both A and B perfectly).


(The number/letter labelling mistake might actually be WordPress getting in on the act.)

I do rather think that Mr A has managed to equivalence theology and speculative cosmology. Is this a category error?

Date: 2014/11/17 06:15:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 17 2014,02:19)
joey said: "And I don't accept the alleged age of the earth as being 4.5x billion years old."

In a comment in this hilarious thread:

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2014.......nd.html

Hey joey, in your opinion, how old is the Earth, and what evidence supports your opinion?

Hey everybody, in your opinion, how old is Joe, and what evidence supports your opinion?

:D

Date: 2014/11/18 06:16:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 18 2014,02:26)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 17 2014,04:15)
   
Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 17 2014,02:19)
joey said: "And I don't accept the alleged age of the earth as being 4.5x billion years old."

In a comment in this hilarious thread:

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2014.......nd.html

Hey joey, in your opinion, how old is the Earth, and what evidence supports your opinion?

Hey everybody, in your opinion, how old is Joe, and what evidence supports your opinion?

:D

Hmm, let's see, when I do a CSI calculation of his first name (joey) I get 5 bits times 4 letters divided by two ticks and a watermelon. I then subtract half of the watermelon and add an aardvark divided by a caek recipe and then multiply a playing dragonfly by the number of times joey calls someone "assface" before lunchtime. So, based on my irrefutable mathematical formula I'd say that he has a mental-emotional-intellectual age of 3, give or take a few months.

All of which leaves Pal Joey Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered.

Presumably the "Complex" bit is because a "dragon-fly" has both real and imaginary parts.

The method has serious practical problems:-

The watermelon will make the caek soggy, the ticking won't get past Barry "Ban-the-Bomb" Arrington, and joey won't wait till lunchtime. In addition, there ought to be a logarithm in there somewhere.

Date: 2014/11/20 12:54:46, Link
Author: KevinB
I note a new post by Mr Arrington with a graph purporting to show that 90 climate models are all wrong.

No references.
No error bars.

Graph show that observed data is generally below the predictions of the models. However, there is a distinct superficial similarity in the curves, which suggests that the models are not *that* far out.

Lot of noise. Not a lot of science.

I've found a cache of Perry Mason episodes on Youtube. UD is a lot like DA Hamilton Burger, trying to get his selection of the evidence heard, while preventing Perry Mason from asking awkward questions.

"I object, your Honor. The question is irrelevant, immaterial and incompetent."

Date: 2014/11/21 12:02:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (BillB @ Nov. 21 2014,09:02)
Talking of KF, I see that he has posted a succession of posts at UD 'Correcting' things that cropped up in the latest FIASCO discussions ... all comments are OFF of course because ... well because allowing people tell you you are wrong would just be wrong.

I thought it was the same post repeated, and assumed it was a demonstration that information cannot be created in the absence of intelligence.

Date: 2014/11/26 10:54:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 26 2014,10:11)
We're doomed. Logically_speaking invokes the platypus. Game over.

Does he know the difference between a nested hierarchy and a nesting hierarchy?

Date: 2014/11/27 05:20:06, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 26 2014,20:03)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 26 2014,19:46)
Apparently Barry posted an OP and then removed it when it became untenable. Talk about controlling the message.

See Keith's comment at 49.
Barry's oops.

The fact it was titled: "Keiths, the gift that keeps giving to ID" adds the the hilarity. Reload, Barry - you still have another foot!

And that doesn't include the 4 flat feet on Logically_speaking's platypus.

Date: 2014/12/04 09:01:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 04 2014,04:46)
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 03 2014,18:01)
Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

Is this not what they call 'noodling'?

Looks like fusili to me. I think I'd make a design inference.

Anyone for asking UD to compute the CSI of a bowl of alphabet soup?

Date: 2014/12/05 06:36:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 04 2014,13:16)
What the fuck is it with creationists and thermodynamics?

The trouble is that they cut the chapter on Thermodynamics out of Leviticus because they'd already had a plague of Boyles's back in Exodus. Lussac being Gay didn't go down well either.

Date: 2014/12/08 10:59:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (timothya @ Dec. 07 2014,02:24)
The Kairosfocus had this to say at UD:
   
Quote
KB: I suspect that some clarification on the meaning/message and truth of Scripture is needed. First, that scripture must be understood on grammar, language [esp. Heb. Aramaic and Koine Greek], genre and imagery [What does Jesus mean to say, I am the Door . . . sensus literalis does not commit us to thinking of Oak or Cedar etc, and when Scripture portrays how Paul and Silas were beaten and thrown in stocks at Philippi it does not commend kangaroo courts but just the opposite, etc . . . ], context, setting and occasion, authorial intent, etc and so taking the text at its proper meaning per what it actually says vs what many may read into it, becomes important. You are right to highlight the problem of strawman caricatures and a subtext of contempt. Which, is ever more luridly revealing of the thoughts and intents of the heart in a culture where the chattering classes so often preen themselves on tolerance and cultural sensitivity. It is time for a rethink. KF

What does this mean?

Is this a trick question for the statistically challenged (and those at UD who aspire to achieve that level of competence)?

Date: 2014/12/08 11:02:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 08 2014,04:20)
Quote (timothya @ Dec. 07 2014,07:24)
The Kairosfocus had this to say at UD:
   
Quote
KB: I suspect that some clarification on the meaning/message and truth of Scripture is needed. First, that scripture must be understood on grammar, language [esp. Heb. Aramaic and Koine Greek], genre and imagery [What does Jesus mean to say, I am the Door . . . sensus literalis does not commit us to thinking of Oak or Cedar etc, and when Scripture portrays how Paul and Silas were beaten and thrown in stocks at Philippi it does not commend kangaroo courts but just the opposite, etc . . . ], context, setting and occasion, authorial intent, etc and so taking the text at its proper meaning per what it actually says vs what many may read into it, becomes important. You are right to highlight the problem of strawman caricatures and a subtext of contempt. Which, is ever more luridly revealing of the thoughts and intents of the heart in a culture where the chattering classes so often preen themselves on tolerance and cultural sensitivity. It is time for a rethink. KF

What does this mean?

It means he is not some simple-minded fundie literalist. He has taken a scholarly approach to the matter and he has concluded after sombre evaluation that bats are of the bird kind.

So has he worked out that the Caped Crusader is an inmate of Alcatraz?

Date: 2014/12/15 17:00:45, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 14 2014,08:22)
That's unfair, Joe MUST be able to taste the difference.

The notoriously tasteless post over at TSZ militates against this assertion.

Date: 2014/12/17 12:26:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Please remember Uncommon Descent in your end of year giving ....

.... contribute to a deserving pro-science activity.

Date: 2014/12/18 11:27:05, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 18 2014,10:43)
Quote
PLEASE, I’m begging you, for heaven sake, do something about that Kairofocus. SEVEN times this morning he has invaded this site like a plague of rats invading a home. It is very irritating.

More like the "Plague of Frog" in Terry Pratchett's "Pyramids"...
Quote
It was quite a big frog and it got into the air ducts and kept everyone awake for weeks

Date: 2014/12/30 15:47:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 30 2014,11:48)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2014,09:33)
Have you seen how deep the Tard goes at UD?

It's tardles all the way down.

It's deeper on the inside than on the outside.

And at the moment it's uncountably deep rather than just infinitely deep.

Date: 2014/12/30 15:52:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2014,12:40)
Quote

782
JoeDecember 30, 2014 at 12:04 pm

There are more natural numbers than there are natural even numbers. It is all relative

Mung
 
Quote

   Joe, there are just as many even numbers as natural numbers.

Well for every even number there are two natural numbers.


They're as good at set theory as they are at biology, information theory, cosmology....

Not good; just objectively moral, though some of them can't distinguish between "objectively" and "objectionably" and the moral might turn out to be a spell-corrected magic mushroom.

Date: 2015/01/07 12:27:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 07 2015,11:05)
Astronomers announced today that they have found eight new planets in the "Goldilocks" zone of their stars, orbiting at a distance where liquid water can exist on the planet's surface.

Rumours that they are going to name one of them "Gonzalez" are entirely without substance.

Date: 2015/01/08 08:27:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 07 2015,12:41)
Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 07 2015,12:27)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 07 2015,11:05)
Astronomers announced today that they have found eight new planets in the "Goldilocks" zone of their stars, orbiting at a distance where liquid water can exist on the planet's surface.

Rumours that they are going to name one of them "Gonzalez" are entirely without substance.

Just Guillermo

Presumably, the planets that are outside the liquid water zone (and so, don't have mains drainage and street lights) are in the astronomical slum districts, and are therefore underprivileged planets.

Date: 2015/01/09 07:58:01, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 08 2015,21:30)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 08 2015,12:41)
Muslim Joe Gallien:

 
Quote
144
JoeJanuary 8, 2015 at 6:31 am
rvb8- What happened in France is a tragedy. What people need to realize is that if you piss off emotionally unstable people bad things tend to happen. To me only imbeciles do things like that.


And Joe should know, being a pissed off emotionally unstable imbecile he can see all sides of this one.

Why does he leave low hanging fruit like this? He is just making it too easy.

He keeps well away from fruit trees. Remember what happened to Adam!

Date: 2015/01/16 15:53:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2015,15:41)
And on the original thread, Learned Hand takes a bite out of KairosFocus.

As long as LH has taken note of the Poul Anderson story where his character Nick van Rijn provokes a snappy alien baddie into taking a chunk out of his (van Rijn's) posterior, upon which said alien expires due to the incompatible biochemistry.

Date: 2015/01/20 16:57:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 19 2015,19:51)
So, my question to my fellow Mornington Crescent travelers is this:  what would you find on the heath?

I'd play Heathrow Terminal 4, and expect to find a Boeing 747, though not necessarily in conjunction with either a tornado or a junkyard.

Date: 2015/01/21 07:42:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 21 2015,05:51)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 20 2015,21:20)
Learned Hand responded to Scary Barrington as follows:

     
Quote
I don’t think that your blogging demonstrates the quality of your briefs; just the quality of your thinking and character.


If this is UD, the grapes are bound to be sour.

Date: 2015/01/22 14:48:54, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 22 2015,13:14)
Some quality ButtHurt at UD right now courtesy of LH, MF and KeithS. Barry getting science all wrong again. I love it so!

No, Barry is never wrong (and he has the dictionary to prove it.)

It's all those scientists who've put the science together wrong. (Serves them right for getting their science flat-pack from IKEA.)

Date: 2015/01/23 14:14:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Quack @ Jan. 23 2015,01:50)
But what is the best explanation of His fondness of beetles?

Perhaps He just got caught out by the order multiple in the Creation Supplies catalogue. (Like ordering 1000 boxes of paperclips, instead of 1 box of 1000 paperclips.)

Date: 2015/01/23 16:24:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 23 2015,15:22)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 23 2015,13:54)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 23 2015,12:14)
 
Quote (Quack @ Jan. 23 2015,01:50)
But what is the best explanation of His fondness of beetles?

Perhaps He just got caught out by the order multiple in the Creation Supplies catalogue. (Like ordering 1000 boxes of paperclips, instead of 1 box of 1000 paperclips.)

"Customers who ordered tiger beetles also ordered:
Rove beetles
Stag beetles
Scarab beetles
Weevils
..."

VW Beetle...
Beetle Bailey...

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ie.  => Rock Ferry (Birkenhead), which forces the next move to be Pier Head, due to the Gerry Marsden codacil.

Date: 2015/01/28 16:15:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 28 2015,11:54)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 27 2015,13:20)
 
Quote (Cubist @ Jan. 27 2015,12:42)
   
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 27 2015,13:48)
Got a YEC on the line at G+ (https://plus.google.com/1089029....xU8EdXP)

I thought that they were extinct.

Well… except for a few holdouts like Paul Nelson, Ken Ham, Kurt Wise, etc

Sadly, there's no shortage of home-schooled 15-year-olds.  Which I suspect is what you're dealing with.

 
Quote
David Campbell Yesterday 5:59 PM

And +Cade Walker how old are u? 

------
Cade Walker Yesterday 6:01 PM

+David Campbell 14

Close enough.  Running out for a cigar.

Why?  He's not old enough to smoke.

Date: 2015/02/09 17:19:40, Link
Author: KevinB
I see there's new global warming skepticism thread up at UD.

Do they refuse to believe in global warming because "global" is incompatible with the Flat Earth Theory?

Date: 2015/02/13 05:17:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (rossum @ Feb. 13 2015,03:50)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 23 2015,16:24)
ie.  => Rock Ferry (Birkenhead), which forces the next move to be Pier Head, due to the Gerry Marsden codacil.

"Why did Jesus not appear in Liverpool?"

"Because his miracle of walking on the water is nothing special in Liverpool."

"How come?"

"The quality of Mersey is unstrained."

Ba-dum, tish.

Given the atrociously Bard pun, are you playing Stratford Upon Avon, Stratford International or Fenny Stratford?

Date: 2015/02/16 14:04:07, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 16 2015,12:14)
Rather than reading the freely available original  article on RNA editing in squids Denyse as usual just copied snippets from a bad summary.

Presumably because a bad summar disproves global warming.

Date: 2015/02/17 10:28:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 17 2015,08:38)
Is it just me, or has UD returned to pre amnesty mode?

Mr Arrington has run out of the vital ingredient for the potion that allows him to transform back into the mild-mannered Dr Jeckyll.

Date: 2015/02/23 10:11:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 23 2015,08:37)
Quote (NoName @ Feb. 23 2015,16:20)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 23 2015,09:01)
...
Um...it's not even ID. Who's the demigod of ID these days? Whoever it is hasn't waved the holy cash register over Gary's garbage and given it the imprimatur of tard. Neither have the hoi polloi at UD, in fact they completely ignored him. Barry has dragged himself away from collecting unpaid hire purchase payments and  séances, Joe didn't offer a reach around nor was there a sly invite to the Baylor broom closet let alone the VIP section of the cafeteria. Gary should call his "theory" Unintelligent Plagiarisms.

Heh.  Too true, much to Gary's discomfiture.

There is as much 'intelligent design' in Gary's work as there is 'intelligence' in its author.  I can think of no more damning an assessment.
It for sure is no part of any element whatsoever of the 'ID Movement'.  No one but Gary thinks otherwise, and in Gary's case 'thinks' is quite a stretch.

Should we run a book on his next unauthorized co-option?

Ah, yes. Strong evidence of exaptation?

Date: 2015/02/24 11:54:13, Link
Author: KevinB
I see UD has a thread that combines fine-tuning and pretzels.

Perhaps someone should suggest that it's not fine-tuning, it's auto-tuning!

Date: 2015/02/26 12:02:18, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 26 2015,10:31)
The tumbrels will roll!

Is this something to do with the post about head transplants over at Pharyngula?

Date: 2015/02/27 05:38:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 27 2015,02:36)
Next up from vjtorley, rice pudding and income tax.

But would Deep Thought have been able to deduce the existence of vjtorley?

Date: 2015/03/09 12:19:33, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 09 2015,09:29)
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 06 2015,13:05)
I've been trying to kick the Uncommonly Dense habit.  But this is just too awesome:
     
Quote
79
Box March 5, 2015 at 8:02 am
     
Quote
Zachriel: Drawing ten straight flushes in a row from a fair, well-shuffled deck is not plausible (…)

Indeed. And why is not plausible? Exactly because of the second law, which is all about probability.

Nineteen minutes later:
     
Quote
82
Box March 5, 2015 at 8:21 am
     
Quote
Zach: The odds of a royal flush are not an example of thermodynamics.

True. However it’s totally irrelevant, because who said they are? You are not playing stupid with me now or what?

Z: The caloric cost of shuffling and dealing and playing of cards are paid for by the alcohol.



That's your thermodynamics for ya!

"Intelligent Design" is, of course, based on the use of a marked deck.

Let's employ a card sharp metaphor.....

"Canada Dry" O'Leary?
"Pair of Sevens" BA?
Montserrat Jim?
"Doc Bill" Dembski?

Now, who's got the deck with 5 aces? The one that's all jokers? The trick deck that always cuts at the Queen of Spades?

And of course UD's version of Canada Bill Jones' Law..

"A ban hammer beats four aces"

Date: 2015/03/10 08:56:13, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 10 2015,07:23)
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 09 2015,12:19)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 09 2015,09:29)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 06 2015,13:05)
I've been trying to kick the Uncommonly Dense habit.  But this is just too awesome:
         
Quote
79
Box March 5, 2015 at 8:02 am
         
Quote
Zachriel: Drawing ten straight flushes in a row from a fair, well-shuffled deck is not plausible (…)

Indeed. And why is not plausible? Exactly because of the second law, which is all about probability.

Nineteen minutes later:
         
Quote
82
Box March 5, 2015 at 8:21 am
         
Quote
Zach: The odds of a royal flush are not an example of thermodynamics.

True. However it’s totally irrelevant, because who said they are? You are not playing stupid with me now or what?

Z: The caloric cost of shuffling and dealing and playing of cards are paid for by the alcohol.



That's your thermodynamics for ya!

"Intelligent Design" is, of course, based on the use of a marked deck.

Let's employ a card sharp metaphor.....

"Canada Dry" O'Leary?
"Pair of Sevens" BA?
Montserrat Jim?
"Doc Bill" Dembski?

Now, who's got the deck with 5 aces? The one that's all jokers? The trick deck that always cuts at the Queen of Spades?

And of course UD's version of Canada Bill Jones' Law..

"A ban hammer beats four aces"

You missed out the question of how many cards in their decks: clearly it's less than 52.

It's an Aleister Crowley Thoth Tarot deck.

Date: 2015/03/10 18:26:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 10 2015,16:39)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 10 2015,11:22)
   
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 10 2015,06:56)
 
It's an Aleister Crowley Thoth Tarot deck.

It's a Tardot deck.

It's just more tard dreck...

Since at least some Tarot decks incorporate the Zodiac, there's probably a leotard in there somewhere.

BTW Is Niwrad's mind closed or isolated?

Date: 2015/03/11 09:54:41, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Mar. 10 2015,23:01)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 10 2015,19:03)
   
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 10 2015,03:09)
Gary's claim that he only models what has never been modelled before: FALSE, given his re-implementation of Heiserman robots and even his citation of Heiserman.

That was great way of punishing the scientific discipline of giving credit where due to others. According to your standards a research paper is best not to have footnote credits or a Reference section, otherwise you have to use that against them to make it appear that their original work is unoriginal and must not be taken seriously.

So is that why your "theory" lacks footnotes and references?

There's an extensive example of the use of footnotes here.

Dr Carol Williams

Date: 2015/03/12 12:31:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (dazz @ Mar. 12 2015,12:08)
Was my OP really so poorly written that not only nobody seems to get the idea, but you all even came to the conclusion that it was about pushing the idea of FT?

Your posting style is scoring about 2.5 billy goats on my troll meter.

I'm inclined to think that this is a false positive, but this is on a careful reading of your "ifs". We often get drive-by trolls here, who pretend to an anti-ID position while trying to smuggle in pro-ID doctrine. You're seeing some of the troll-avoidance tactics in play.

For myself, I'm inclined to discard "fine-tuning" in favour of "auto-tuning", where life adjusts to fit the available reality.

Date: 2015/03/12 14:41:44, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 12 2015,13:12)
Quote (KevinB @ Mar. 12 2015,10:31)
For myself, I'm inclined to discard "fine-tuning" in favour of "auto-tuning"

You're saying god can't sing?

Since the Devil has all the best tunes, His repertoire is somewhat limited by His material.

Date: 2015/03/16 09:13:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 15 2015,16:13)
Gordon (KairosFocus) Mullings is presiding over an entertaining rehash of why a naturalist origin of life violates the second law of thermodynamics. What that man doesn't know about thermodynamics could fill several large text books.

Is "several large text books" more than 150 bits? If so, can we use Dembski's argument to show that this amount of lack of information could not have arisen merely by chance, and that KF, therefore, is wilfully ignorant?

Date: 2015/03/17 17:49:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 17 2015,13:51)
Dear diary,
I have been working on FIASCO
(Fishingreel Is A Such Complex Organism) why won't these Alinskyites accept I am right and that evolution is wrong?


COMMENTS CLOSED.

COMMENTS ISOLATED?

Date: 2015/03/19 11:59:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 19 2015,10:34)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 19 2015,07:42)
Been meaning to say,

DNA_Jock, it's okay to have fun with the chew toy—that's cool—, but try not to break it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....LNErHgg

I've had two dogs, at opposite ends of the size spectrum, that immediately chewed the squeaker out of toys. They bypassed all other forms of play and opened them up. Once the squeaker was gone, they had no further interest in the toys.

If we removed the squeaker from the tone trolls, would we still want to play?

I must admit that I tend to view trolls as a kind of whoopee cushion.

Date: 2015/03/30 10:39:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 29 2015,18:39)
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 29 2015,18:00)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 29 2015,14:33)
Professor Plum did it with the flagellum in the ID Lab.

You're assuming facts not in evidence: that they have a clue.

It's true. This man has no flagellum.

Are you sure this shouldn't be on the Mullings Meander thread?

Date: 2015/04/01 06:15:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ April 01 2015,02:35)
Joe should be able to say what page that's on in Wagner's new book.

Perhaps it's a leitmotif, so you'd have to point to the whole score.

Date: 2015/04/14 08:03:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (The whole truth @ April 14 2015,07:49)
A friendly warning: Make sure that your desk is thoroughly padded and that you're wearing a very protective, full-face helmet before reading gordo's number 171 comment in arrington's meltdown thread. gordo's first sentence will likely make you feel like bashing in your own skull (or his), let alone the rest of his spewage.

This caught my eye a few lines down.

Quote (Kouros Photos @ today)
We all must get up day by day and fight with our inner fool.

I think he's losing......

Date: 2015/04/17 11:55:42, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2015,10:03)
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 16 2015,21:53)
 
Quote (JohnW @ April 16 2015,10:52)
Restart #6
Barry has disappointing news for tardaholics:
   
Quote
This will be my last post on this subject.

The goal of tardathons is to reduce the population of literate posters to three.

It looks like Barry was just teasing us.
Restart #7

Is it too much to hope that this is lucky #7?

Possibly "last" means "most recent".

We are dangerously close to Cantor inifinities again.

Date: 2015/04/20 06:30:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 19 2015,14:08)
 
Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10)
somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p

Is anyone counting which "Materialist Dodges" he's using?

No. Everything Barry posts is immaterial.

Date: 2015/04/21 05:17:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (tsig @ April 20 2015,14:41)
It's a fistaval of fools.

Is that a portmanteau of "festival" and "fistula"?

Date: 2015/04/22 05:10:38, Link
Author: KevinB
[quote=Richardthughes,April 21 2015,16:28]
Quote (N.Wells @ April 21 2015,15:05)
 
Quote
Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this:
   
Quote
DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF

That's like Gaulin hybridized with a thesaurus, and edited for grammar.

Montserrat is lucky to have such a Polymath as KF.

In the same way that it's lucky that it has an active volcano, because it gets disaster assistance?

Date: 2015/04/22 08:48:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2015,08:06)
 
Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,14:40)
Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers.

On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion.

Is this a road to Damascus moment where he and his beliefs get knocked of his donkey or a crossing the Rubicon moment where he has passed the point of no return?

Well, it's not a Balaam's ass moment, since with KF and BA77 they already have a surfeit of talking donkeys.

Date: 2015/04/27 07:57:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 26 2015,09:32)
 
Quote (Learned Hand @ April 26 2015,02:14)
Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

Oh my god! KairosFocus is just a sock puppet for Learned Hand.

Actually, I rather think that with a bit of practice LH would do quite well on Just A Minute.

On the other hand (ie not LH) while I don't know about the hesitation, KF couldn't get past the first URL without repetition, and as for the deviation......

Date: 2015/04/29 10:39:30, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 29 2015,10:34)
When a comment starts with these words, my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next comment:
 
Quote
Take an Abu 6500 C3 reel, i/l/o its FSCO/I....

It's a phishing exploit

Date: 2015/04/30 05:21:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Quack @ April 30 2015,03:14)
IMHO, "Operational Information" is just another of the sterile brainfarts that the ID movement keep ad libbing as required in want of operational words.

Information alone is sterile, it takes the addition of energy to get any effect out of it.

Memory + Energy = Things Happen.

Wasn't it "operational" information" that got Petraeus into trouble?

Date: 2015/05/08 09:34:41, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Zachriel @ May 08 2015,06:28)
Zachriel: You don’t soak your computer to model a rain storm.

Mung: You might if you wanted to observe the effects so that you could better model them.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-563386


I must say that "mike1962" could be usefully introduced to the concept of the analog computer, which is quite capable of modelling things without having either alogrithm or code.

Date: 2015/05/08 09:38:01, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 08 2015,09:27)
 
Quote (Alan Fox @ May 08 2015,02:47)
While there are threads at UD mentioning a poster going by the name of Aurelio Smith, there is now not a single trace of any comment. Must be a glitch.

Yes.  That glitche's name is Barry Arrington.

Even the OP with Aurelio's name in the title no longer has comments by Aurelio. How strange.

Do we have any useful observations on which we can base a hypothesis as to what provoked the glitch?

Date: 2015/05/11 08:20:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (BillB @ May 11 2015,07:47)
 
Quote (stevestory @ May 11 2015,02:34)
I've got relatives whose response to 2000-year old complex philosophical conundrums would be to blurt out whatever pops into their heads as true, then defend it endlessly with babbling, and they're sure the whole time that not only are they up-to-speed on the issue, but they're obviously winning the discussion.

Some of these relatives literally voted for Alan Keyes in an election once.

Barry strikes me as about that smart.

My mother in law:    
Quote
"Science has failed to achieve anything significant, all it has ever done is tell ordinary people what they already knew"


Anyone care to guess which UK newspaper she reads  ...?

The Beano?

Date: 2015/05/12 07:30:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 11 2015,21:53)
Quote (CeilingCat @ May 11 2015,19:06)
That whole "What Elizabeth Liddle Doesn't Understand" thread is Barry showing why lawyers have a bad name.  It's disgusting even by UD standards.

Bully Arrington continues his push to be named Twat Of The Year.  After a dozen posts in that thread where Bully insulted Dr. Elizabeth Liddle, completely ignored her arguments and falsely accused her of ad hom tactics Dr. Liddle had enough, stating she would no longer engage at UD.

Bully's response is to start yet another thread with Dr. Liddle's name in the title, quote-mine her earlier posts and offer a batch of lies about why she "ran away".

Every time you think Bully can't possibly dig any lower in the slime he finds another gear in his backhoe.

Perhaps we need a new site, "The Panda's Finger" (specifically, the one that's used as a rude gesture.)

We could have posts like "What Barry Arrington Doesn't Know About Polite Debate" (though the positive form would yield a more succinct thread.)

Or "No News is Good News" or "Is Potassium Fluoride More Toxic Than Batshit?" or even "Pop Goes the Weasel" (where we could discuss whether METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL has more CSI than SHE LOVES YOU YEAH YEAH YEAH

Date: 2015/05/13 07:17:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Amadan @ May 13 2015,06:47)
I wonder has Barry ever looked at his hands.

I'd've expected tentacles.      :D

Date: 2015/05/15 06:51:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (J-Dog @ May 14 2015,16:08)
Is Dembski ever gonna pay off losing his ID Is Mainstream Bet with that bottle of Single-malt scotch?

Perhaps he's pleading the 18th Amendment.

Date: 2015/05/19 07:09:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ May 19 2015,01:41)
Quote (Henry J @ May 19 2015,06:40)
What, one of them was succinct for a change?  :p

You are asking for a boring level of detail.

Is "a boring level of detail" more succinct than "a pathetic level of detail"?

Date: 2015/05/19 07:11:51, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ May 18 2015,20:31)
Hey, maybe it's real-science instead of really science?

Is KF's fixation on fishing reels a point mutation?

Date: 2015/05/19 11:39:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2015,09:33)
This is good.  Larry Moran is now engaging the IDiots at UD.  Banny is being his usual insulting self, Mung is doing his usual evasive asshat routine.  None of them will commit to Moran's simple question "Does ID accept common descent of humans and chimps."

ETA:  linky

Having responded "yes" to vjtorley demanding a straight yes-or-no answer, he was immediately accused of being "smarmy".....

Date: 2015/05/20 10:47:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ May 19 2015,08:35)
I don't  know let's  ask Bill.
..ring...ring
W.A.Dembsik. 'lo
AtBC Hi Bill is boring more succinct  than pathetic?
W.A.Dembski. Who's  this?
AtBC AtBC
W.A.Dembski. Fuck off.
..click

Well there you have  it.

Drat!

I was hoping he'd answer "Waterloo". Since the Duke of Wellington was the son of the 12t Earl of Mornington, this would have provided an easy cross-platform change.

Now I have to choose between playing "Hampton Wick" and "Cockfosters".

Date: 2015/05/22 06:18:43, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Amadan @ May 22 2015,02:35)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 22 2015,06:48)
interesting name choice!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?....k&gl=us

Your link enticed me to look at the Evolutionfairytale site.

The first thread I opened dealt with the calculation of distances to stars.

The weighty discussion therein begins thusly:
   
Quote
1. Parlax

That's a big question, because there are loads of ways used to measure cosmic distances.


(On the very next line there is a Wiki quote mentioning something called "parallax". I wonder if they're related.)

*snicker*

Warning: May contain senna.

Date: 2015/05/26 10:29:34, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 26 2015,10:15)
I find Gordo's comments and his pompous arrogance amusing. And when I am permitted to post at UD, I take a pleasure in pushing his buttons. I like to see if I can get him to use <i>strawman, ad hominem, and red herring</i> in the same sentence.

But you seem to take his comments personally, as if he had some sort of negative impact on your life. Gordo likes to think that he is a big fish in a little pond, but he is little more than a piece of algae. Even his fellow IDists (other than Joe) pay him little attention.

KF appears to think that he is He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named

Date: 2015/06/05 06:01:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2015,17:50)
This is good too.  On the "Timaeus Exposes Larry Moran" thread several of the IDiots are panning Larry Moran because of his low ratings on ratemyprofessor.com.   Timaeus to his credit has admitted those stats have zero relevance to LM's knowledge of evolutionary biochemistry.  Soundburger doesn't want to let go yet, keeps bringing up the results to prove LM must be incompetent.

How much current relevance does ratemyprofessor's LM rating have?  Out of 26 rating posts there are

1 post from 2015
1 post from 2009
1 post from 2008
23 from 2006 or earlier.

Linky

Pretty much the only type of reviews on RMP are negative ones from kids who failed the course and want to hit back at the professor.  But still UD, bitching about 3 reviews in the last 9 years and only 1 in the last 6?  :D

Unfortunately,

      ratemyintelligentdesignwebsite.com

comes up "Page not found".

Is it an overly-specialised area, or has Barry banned it?

Date: 2015/06/08 12:52:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (jeffox @ June 08 2015,12:14)
His goes to 11.  :)  :)   :)

But probably counter-clockwise.

Date: 2015/06/16 12:21:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ June 16 2015,01:26)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 15 2015,20:35)
Beer wins.

This means at least another constitutional crisis on Montserrat.

I always wonder how the residents of Montserrat cope with living under the constant threat of violent eruption and deadly pyroclastic flows.

Having an active volcano on the doorstep won't help matters, either.

Date: 2015/06/19 06:06:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (DaveH @ June 19 2015,03:36)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ June 18 2015,12:22)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 18 2015,00:01)
   
Quote (Learned Hand @ June 17 2015,23:29)
Warm fuzzies all around! Thanks to everyone for the well wishes, and they're well reciprocated. The only thing better than a loving spouse is one who understands and indulges your fascination with irrational creationists (et al).

And they said that atheist marriages would never last.

I was married by a defrocked minister. We're about to hit 20 years.

My cousin was married by a priest... the first two times and by a judge the third time... none of them lasted more than 4 years.

Small sample size though .

We're on 15 years, now.

And Yay! for Scotland! :)

I'm waiting for the first post on UD accusing all you married ATBCers of destroying the institution of matrimony.....

Date: 2015/06/22 04:23:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 21 2015,22:57)
And in 20, Mapou does a fine job dissing Catholics.  Such as O'Leary.
     
Quote
Pope Francis should stop preaching to the world. The church of Rome has not had anything interesting to say in at least a millennium. Rather, the Pope should relegate his duties to preserve the Church’s heritage, architecture and history. The world is grateful for all those amazing cathedrals, monasteries and such. The Vatican itself is a beautiful place.

I say, turn them all into tourist attractions. Even the funny looking garbs that you wear in public can become tourist attractions. And, by all means, open the Vatican archives. All of them. Let the whole world see all the hideous but precious skeletons in every Vatican closet, even those dating back to the first few centuries of the Christian era. They, too, can become tourist attractions. 😀

I wonder if she's used the ban hammer yet.

She's probably read the comment with the same attention to detail that she employs for the "News" items she posts about.

Date: 2015/06/22 04:24:49, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ June 21 2015,18:13)
since he lives in japan he can afford the shipping: they're taking it to his house via flatbed.

Does Amazon Japan use futons rather than drones?

Date: 2015/06/22 16:05:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 22 2015,15:17)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 22 2015,14:50)
Denyse oh Newsy makes a sophisticated case for teaching the bible:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments

   
Quote
But the Bible makes no such claims for itself. What can the Bible tell us about electrons or amphibians that we would not more practically learn elsewhere?

The real problem with not teaching the Bible anywhere in publicly funded schools is that much of our cultural background is only comprehensible in the light of the Bible, as well as the history of our country(ies).

So we pay a lot of money to turn out illiterates, who morph into low information voters, and then we wonder why they seem so dumb and things go so badly.

I assume that she is speaking about herself.

It would be fun to save up the bit about morphing into "low information voters" and use it as an argument against Conservation of Information.

Date: 2015/06/24 14:51:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ June 24 2015,14:45)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 20 2015,02:30)
Quote (Learned Hand @ June 20 2015,04:31)
What's all this? I was told EVERY anniversary would be precious stones or metals!

By whom - your in-law?  :D



And now for something completely different: In before "Charleston killer is a Darwinist/product of atheism/materialism" by Banny Arrogant

It did take some time and Klinghoffer was faster but this doesn't make much of a difference. link

Klinghoffer probably has a pro-forma article set up and just has to run it through Mailmerge.

Date: 2015/06/25 03:55:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 25 2015,03:06)
Quote (KevinB @ June 24 2015,14:51)
Quote (sparc @ June 24 2015,14:45)
 
Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 20 2015,02:30)
 
Quote (Learned Hand @ June 20 2015,04:31)
What's all this? I was told EVERY anniversary would be precious stones or metals!

By whom - your in-law?  :D



And now for something completely different: In before "Charleston killer is a Darwinist/product of atheism/materialism" by Banny Arrogant

It did take some time and Klinghoffer was faster but this doesn't make much of a difference. link

Klinghoffer probably has a pro-forma article set up and just has to run it through Mailmerge.

This time he let the following sneak in:
Quote
Guilt by association is a nasty business. It's often very selective, too. It leaves things out that don't fit the desired narrative.

Well, he should know.

Date: 2015/06/26 11:07:43, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Mindrover @ June 26 2015,10:21)
[Reads the news that SCOTUS ruled 5-4 in favour of Same-Sex Marriage.]

[Runs to COSTCO to buy enough popcorn for the inevitable KF meltdown.]

I might need to make two trips.

No doubt they'll be predicting the biggest cataclysm since Ar-Pharazon violated the sanctity of the Undying Lands.

Date: 2015/07/04 16:24:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Amadan @ July 04 2015,16:08)
Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,19:44)
FireWorks ..

When Marco Polo first opened the trade routes to China, he was quite impressed with their rockets.

Now, these weren't quite the fireworks we now know, but they did shoot into the air, explode and make some pretty patterns. Strangely, no matter where he went, there were people who made fireworks, but he had trouble finding someone to demonstrate them for him.

"Not here!" they said. ...very confusing.

Until ol' Marc came upon an ancient military fortification at the community of Chu'Lai. Here, fireworks were launched every night, and Marc was very impressed!

But still he wondered, "Why here?"

At the end of every week, people came from great distances, bringing their own fireworks to launch.

So Marco Polo asked his guide why everyone came here to launch their fireworks.

Marc's guide replied: "Why honored Sir, we always set off fireworks on the Forts of Chu'Lai"

----------

I'm sorry.

We have no option.

Henry, you are sentenced to The Earworm.

It would appear that the British didn't bombard Fort McHenry enough.

Date: 2015/07/07 06:33:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 07 2015,00:21)
Quote (JohnW @ July 06 2015,11:17)
Quote (OgreMkV @ July 06 2015,08:40)
Is JoeG really Donald Trump?

Or maybe they are cousins... you know, the kind that are married to each other.

Whatever the cause, Don and Joe sound very much alike (minus the cussing, but he is "running" for president).

Trump's shed is bigger, and has fewer ticks.

I am pretty sure that Trump knows that wavelength does not equal frequency.

Does he own the Voice of America franchise for Latin America?

Date: 2015/07/07 09:57:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ July 07 2015,07:34)
Quote (KevinB @ July 07 2015,14:33)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 07 2015,00:21)
 
Quote (JohnW @ July 06 2015,11:17)
   
Quote (OgreMkV @ July 06 2015,08:40)
Is JoeG really Donald Trump?

Or maybe they are cousins... you know, the kind that are married to each other.

Whatever the cause, Don and Joe sound very much alike (minus the cussing, but he is "running" for president).

Trump's shed is bigger, and has fewer ticks.

I am pretty sure that Trump knows that wavelength does not equal frequency.

Does he own the Voice of America franchise for Latin America?

Hisself's new Geat Wall of Trump made from Mexicans will double as an antenna. It will be several  Wavelengths Frequencies long.

It could be a Mexican wave.....

Or perhaps a permanent wave, in which case the wavelength is dependent on the size of the toupee.

Date: 2015/07/10 05:22:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ July 09 2015,16:49)
Quote (stevestory @ July 09 2015,14:36)
I've been scanning the comments over there for a few days, and man, Virgil has got the IQ of a Red Baron frozen cheese pizza.

... and the driver's license of JoeG.

And that's about as close as Dr Dr D is going to get to unambiguous evidence of ID.

Date: 2015/07/16 05:18:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 15 2015,18:24)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 15 2015,16:33)
   
Quote
I have forgotten more about ID than you will ever know and I don’t forget.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-572382

This goes hand in hand with:

   
Quote
I know more about evolution and microbiology than you ever will.

This statement might, in fact, be true, as long as Joe means Evolution (the party game), and he's using "micro" in the sense of the 1980's cliche referring to the "microchip".

Date: 2015/07/16 05:23:55, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (REC @ July 15 2015,22:01)
I can't even parse what O'Leary's post on this was about (conservative racists?)

I think she's reached the equivalent state to that in Terry Pratchett's witches is described as "cackling", and which is only one step removed from gingerbread house syndrome.

Date: 2015/07/17 06:12:13, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Soapy Sam @ July 17 2015,04:22)
Quote
bornagain77July 16, 2015 at 11:30 am
[...]when history is finally written[...]

Have we got a date for that yet?

Would you settle for a sun-dried raisin?

Date: 2015/07/17 10:15:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ July 17 2015,09:58)
Quote (Timothy McDougald @ July 17 2015,10:54)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 17 2015,07:43)
 
Quote (paragwinn @ July 17 2015,06:26)
   
Quote (KevinB @ July 17 2015,04:12)
     
Quote (Soapy Sam @ July 17 2015,04:22)
       
Quote
bornagain77July 16, 2015 at 11:30 am
[...]when history is finally written[...]

Have we got a date for that yet?

Would you settle for a sun-dried raisin?

ba77 has faith in a raisin from the dead.

Blasphemy I say.

Grapes of wrath...

Aren't raisins simply resurrected grapes?
Or is that wine?

The temperance movement would have claimed that wine was grapes that had gone to the other place.

BTW Can we have "The Grapes of Roth", so we can refer to the grumbling over at UD as "BA77's Complaint"?

Date: 2015/07/24 10:32:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ July 24 2015,10:19)
Quote (paragwinn @ July 24 2015,07:57)
Quote (sparc @ July 23 2015,21:18)
   
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,16:16)
K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

Getting permanently reminded of the 10,000 bucks must have been a pain in the ass for him because his CV/resumé at designinference.com since 2012 says:      
Quote
Templeton Foundation Book Prize ($100,000), for writing book on information theory, 2000–2001; project partially completed by publishing book titled No Free Lunch with Rowman and Littlefield in 2002.

I suppose the Templeton Foundation has a "No Free Lunch" policy.

So what's the sequel going to be called?
Free left overs?
Supper for Welshers?
Loafers and fishing?
No soup for John Templeton?
Go set a thief?
What would Jesus charge?
Weekend on me?
We don't need no sequels?
Waterloo for Waterboarders?
No fault bankrupts for the morally free lunch crowd?
Excuses that don't involve dogs?
Hire a Canadian and solve all your PR problems?
etc etc

"Sent to bed with no supper."

Date: 2015/07/27 12:11:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (paragwinn @ July 26 2015,20:45)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 26 2015,13:48)
   
Quote
Note: I (O’Leary for News) am working late on my second/alternate night job so serious posting will be slightly delayed


My irony meter just blew a circuit.

Those would be the posts WITHOUT a headline question mark.

I see Denyse has put up a post based on a New Statesman article on cosmology.

Is this more, or less, serious than a New Scientist article on cosmology (at least in the Newsiverse)?

Would an article on cosmology in Vogue be really serious?

Date: 2015/07/29 05:50:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ July 28 2015,14:32)
 
Quote (stevestory @ July 28 2015,11:28)
Big Darwin

The Templeton Foundation has abandoned ID, because ID is winning.  That's some high-class logic there, Denyse.

It's all Freudian. If UD is representative, the ID Movement clearly has virtually no ID, but an awful lot of Ego.

Date: 2015/08/03 11:08:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Aug. 03 2015,08:53)
It's not so much a 'Gish gallop' as it is the 'Gaulin  Gavotte'.
The contortions, the wild leaps, one can only shrink in horror at what the music must sound like.
Of course, given that this is Gary, the music probably sounds like 'the aroma of a yellow-ish shade of green trapezoids'.

The "wild leaps" aren't consistent with a gavotte.  ThouTube dance tutor

'Gaulin Gigue' might be more precise.

What would happen if we were to describe KF's contortions as the "Gay Gordons"?

Date: 2015/08/04 05:44:31, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (N.Wells @ Aug. 03 2015,17:00)
The Gaulin Reel - the Jig is up.  (Yeh, no leading G's)

Or possibly this young lady is doing an interpretive rendition of Gary's Not-A-Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....uaAR15o
except she's good at what she does.

Gyration?

Date: 2015/08/04 05:51:01, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 03 2015,17:18)
She's really got it in for that Multiverse. And Brit - toffs.

She probably knows, in her heart of hearts, that the Denyse O'Leary equivalent in every other multiverse is a better journalist.....

And her dislike of the British upper-class is selective, since she keeps quoting Matt Ridley, who is the 5th Viscount Ridley, but who she approves of because he's a global warming skeptic.

Date: 2015/08/07 05:59:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 06 2015,16:23)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 05 2015,17:58)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 05 2015,13:00)
Exciting news for Denyse O'Leary fans!

Please dear designer let it be they've found the selfish gene.

Maybe THIS will help!

The Shellfish Gene

Does dyslexia have a genetic component?

Date: 2015/08/07 10:06:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 07 2015,08:53)
Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2015,05:59)
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 06 2015,16:23)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 05 2015,17:58)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 05 2015,13:00)
Exciting news for Denyse O'Leary fans!

Please dear designer let it be they've found the selfish gene.

Maybe THIS will help!

The Shellfish Gene

Does dyslexia have a genetic component?

Is the Pope Catholic?

The AGW denialists at UD would like to suggest otherwise.....

(Why just stop at rejecting orthodoxy in science?)

Date: 2015/08/10 11:42:51, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 10 2015,10:57)
I was just reading this morning about Nick Bostrom's concerns about the potential dangers of AI in a recent issue of MIT Technology Review.

little did i know that UD polymath Gordon Mullins would prove Bostrom foolish, and clueless, and also by the way his ideas prove Intelligent Design.

why do i waste my time getting MIT TR from a liberry 45 miles away when i can pull up UD for free? Hard to understand...

MIT publications don't have fishing reels in them.

Does KF keep on with his reel diagram because he thinks it's an answer to people demanding that he provide a mechanism?

Date: 2015/08/13 06:31:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 12 2015,14:12)
 
Quote
Why there is no Meaning if Materialism is True
August 12, 2015 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design

[snip]

(Visited 133 times, 134 visits today)


Say what now?

it's been visited 133 times total, 134 of which were today?

linky

Somebody didn't collect 200 pounds (possibly Kent Hovind)

Date: 2015/08/13 07:14:15, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (paragwinn @ Aug. 12 2015,19:06)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2015,14:59)
Chubstard, using his NOMNOMNOMDEPLUME:

     
Quote
The tree rings aren’t the information. We create the information using the data the tree recorded.

Was the tree intelligently designed to record data for the purpose of enabling humanity's ability to create information and to re-affirm humanity's belief in a rational, orderly universe fine-tuned to support human life? Did the tree happen to record any data indicative of its design by an intelligent designer? Is the tree record available in vinyl?

78-rpm records were made of shellac, which does grow on trees....

Date: 2015/08/14 12:51:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2015,12:37)
Did Kairos and Barry deliberately put their words in maroon to highlight them a la "Jesus's Words" in the bible?

It's the board highlighting the poster of the OP.

I must say that the idea of Barry and marooning immediately links in my mind to the seaside resort south-west of Cardiff known as Barry Island - the South Walian equivalent of Southend or Blackpool, or possibly Coney Island.

There seems to me to be a distinct conceptual association between BA's OPs and candy floss.

Date: 2015/08/18 07:39:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 18 2015,02:42)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 18 2015,00:55)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 17 2015,08:03)
     
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 17 2015,05:54)
How to tell when your degree is a PhDumb:*                      
Quote
Why I think a transcendent Creator would make computer simulations of consciousness impossible

An interesting question for Intelligent Design proponents to ponder at this point is: supposing that the universe was designed by a Being Who wished to make His existence scientifically knowable to any intelligent life-forms living within the cosmos, and suppose that this Being was not only intelligent but also transcendent, how would He design the universe in such a way as to prevent human beings (and any other intelligent life-forms that might exist in outer space) from drawing the wrong inference about the nature of the Designer, and conceiving of Him as merely super-human (like the Greek and Roman gods of antiquity), rather than transcendent?

Apparently an intelligent designer couldn't just appear (possibly on a pillar of fire),  introduce himself, do a few miracles, make a few non-obvious but accurate predictions about the future - you know, do some God type stuff, but do it often enough so most people have seen Him in action and also do it in front of the newsreel cameras occasionally.  That would keep me from drawing any wrong conclusions.  It would certainly be more convincing than appearing before an occasional lone goatherd and leaving him with no evidence beyond the word of a lying goatherd.

Ah, yes, but the Babel Fish argument shows that doing this would destroy God.

So in other words, if God was suicidal, he would make it impossible to simulate intelligence on a computer, thus giving humanity proof of His existence.

PhDb

There you go. Perhaps UD is His suicide note.

Cause of Death: Poisoning by KF, leading to terminal boredom.

Date: 2015/08/18 10:33:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 18 2015,10:25)
PS Hitler
PPS LEWONTIN
PPPS Phone numbers on Montserrat only require 4 digits for the whole population. 5 if every man woman and child had 2 phones and they still would have 90 thousand spare numbers.

Giving KF a conniption fit would only require one digit (in the correct orientation).

Date: 2015/08/18 10:36:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 18 2015,08:29)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 18 2015,07:39)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 18 2015,02:42)
     
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 18 2015,00:55)
     
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 17 2015,08:03)
         
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 17 2015,05:54)
How to tell when your degree is a PhDumb:*                          
Quote
Why I think a transcendent Creator would make computer simulations of consciousness impossible

An interesting question for Intelligent Design proponents to ponder at this point is: supposing that the universe was designed by a Being Who wished to make His existence scientifically knowable to any intelligent life-forms living within the cosmos, and suppose that this Being was not only intelligent but also transcendent, how would He design the universe in such a way as to prevent human beings (and any other intelligent life-forms that might exist in outer space) from drawing the wrong inference about the nature of the Designer, and conceiving of Him as merely super-human (like the Greek and Roman gods of antiquity), rather than transcendent?

Apparently an intelligent designer couldn't just appear (possibly on a pillar of fire),  introduce himself, do a few miracles, make a few non-obvious but accurate predictions about the future - you know, do some God type stuff, but do it often enough so most people have seen Him in action and also do it in front of the newsreel cameras occasionally.  That would keep me from drawing any wrong conclusions.  It would certainly be more convincing than appearing before an occasional lone goatherd and leaving him with no evidence beyond the word of a lying goatherd.

Ah, yes, but the Babel Fish argument shows that doing this would destroy God.

So in other words, if God was suicidal, he would make it impossible to simulate intelligence on a computer, thus giving humanity proof of His existence.

PhDb

There you go. Perhaps UD is His suicide note.

Cause of Death: Poisoning by KF, leading to terminal boredom.

No, I think the cause of death was distractive red herrings dragged away from the track of truth that  led out to a caricatured strawmen soaked in (implicit or explicit) character-assassinating ad hominems and ignited to cloud, confuse, polarise and posion the atmosphere for discussion.

Leading to terminal boredom.

That is merely a less succinct restatement.

I did not feel that it was my task to match your pathetic level of detail.

Date: 2015/08/19 14:08:21, Link
Author: KevinB
PaV's posting....

How far back does Front-Loading Go?

At 13 he asserts
 
Quote
Shuffling and duplication don’t get you any new information.


Has anyone pointed this out to KF?

Date: 2015/08/20 08:36:33, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 20 2015,02:57)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 19 2015,17:11)
Possibly the stupidest thing that. Barry has ever said.

   
Quote
The self-evident is untestable.


But I have faith that he will shortly say something even more stupid.

He's trying his best to prove you right: A Response to The Materialists’ “Possible Possum” Gambit

Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature?

Is there an analogue of Charles' Law? Can we call it Coles' Law?

Date: 2015/08/24 05:52:02, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Nils Ruhr @ Aug. 24 2015,01:38)
@Zachriel: Why are you still posting anything on uncommondescent?

Because it really winds up Barry and his friends.

The real question is why Zach is still allowed to port on UD.

Date: 2015/08/24 13:26:51, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 24 2015,11:13)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 24 2015,04:52)
 
Quote (Nils Ruhr @ Aug. 24 2015,01:38)
@Zachriel: Why are you still posting anything on uncommondescent?

Because it really winds up Barry and his friends.

The real question is why Zach is still allowed to port on UD.

But is he allowed to starboard?

Not without a Bill of Rights.

PS. I see that Zach has been put in moderation so that BA can be rude about him without fear of contradiction.

Date: 2015/08/25 05:49:06, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (paragwinn @ Aug. 25 2015,02:12)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 24 2015,19:14)
Re "Those unicorn are sexy beasts...makes you wonder why they didn't survive...oh here's why."

Too many people out hunting for aphrodisiacs?

Too many unicorns stealing their womenfolk.

Since the only women on board were Noah's daughters-in-law, who were presumably no longer virgins, they would have had problems managing unicorns......

Date: 2015/08/26 06:35:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Aug. 26 2015,06:28)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 26 2015,04:42)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ Aug. 26 2015,04:48)
Maybe the small circles are further away.

only if the arrows are pointing the wrong way...or to each other...maybe just replace the arrows with circles and make a note on the scale ...F major should work.

No, no -- the is Gary "epic fail" Gaulin.
The 'intelligent' key choice is G flat minor.
All the chords are diminished.

That explains the "mol". Spelt properly (with the double l) it's the German for "minor" as applied to musical scales.

Date: 2015/08/26 10:03:52, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (fnxtr @ Aug. 26 2015,09:03)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ Aug. 25 2015,18:48)
Maybe the small circles are further away.


OMG GG's invented the Time Tunnel!

I can see a distinct similarity with a henge complex in Northern England ( Thornborough Henges ) and am going to assert a Design Inference

Date: 2015/09/01 09:30:30, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 31 2015,22:42)
Wonder how many submissions they rejected?

Perhaps the only submissions that they're getting are covered by Mr Arrington's assertion that "Some Things are Really Simple"

Date: 2015/09/02 10:55:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 01 2015,19:11)
There's a lot of ID rhetoric on G+ now. I don't think that any of the UD crew are on (except O'Leary... which G+ keeps suggesting I follow for some reason), .....

She needs people following behind in the same way that a cavalry parade does.

Date: 2015/09/08 05:27:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Woodbine @ Sep. 07 2015,22:28)
O'Leary - "We demand all funding be withdrawn from scientific research unless it already knows the answer."

Strike out from "unless" for greater accuracy.

She's mixing up the scientific method with the "theologic method", where you know what you want the answer to be, and fudge the working-out to get there.

Quote
She's the greatest.

She's still a couple of dormice short of a Tea Party.

Date: 2015/09/08 11:39:58, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that Denews has posted  Why Christian Darwinism is a Dead Duck

And "Dr JDD" has asserted that
Quote
Christian Darwinism is an allagorous term for weak faith unfortunately.


Surely that's backwards. It's the Creationists whose faith is weak, since the idea that it is possible for life to have come about without divine intervention is sufficient to undermine their belief.

BRW Is "allagorous" a portmanteau of "allegory" and "allosaurus"?

Date: 2015/09/09 08:48:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Sep. 08 2015,20:32)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ Sep. 08 2015,16:13)
Denyse begins her article using a term with which I was unfamiliar - 'brown-bagged'

Google helped me out....



Thanks Google.

Pretty sure O'Dreary is a three-bagger.

One over her head.

One over your head in case hers falls off.

One over the dog's head to keep him from wimpering.

I was rather thinking in terms of the sort of plain-cover wrappers used to conceal dubious reading matter, eg Southern Baptist preachers taking home Playboy or Harry Potter, county clerks with copies of the US Constitution, or Republican presidential candidates with any book at all.

Is Denews suggesting that Dembski's book is pornographic? (Mind you, it would probably boost sales.)

Date: 2015/09/09 10:19:15, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 09 2015,09:58)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Sep. 09 2015,07:48)
Is Denews suggesting that Dembski's book is pornographic? (Mind you, it would probably boost sales.)

Dembski without that sweater? How would that boost sales?

Well, since he seems to be getting more and more theological, there's always the juicier bits of the Bible in Pictures - the photoshoot of Ham uncovering his father's nakedness; the final days of the Cities of the Plain; Mary Magdalene portraying the highlights of the Song of Solomon.....

Date: 2015/09/10 10:14:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (khan @ Sep. 09 2015,18:02)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 09 2015,09:36)
Kairosfocus brings out the chains.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....science

Good grief!
Was that even supposed to make sense?

You don't have the sheet of paper with holes cut in it that you lay over the text to reveal the hidden message.

But then, how many of the UD regulars can tell the difference between "steganography" and "stegosaurian".

Date: 2015/09/10 12:25:25, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Sep. 10 2015,12:09)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Sep. 10 2015,10:14)
   
Quote (khan @ Sep. 09 2015,18:02)
     
Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 09 2015,09:36)
Kairosfocus brings out the chains.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....science

Good grief!
Was that even supposed to make sense?

You don't have the sheet of paper with holes cut in it that you lay over the text to reveal the hidden message.

But then, how many of the UD regulars can tell the difference between "steganography" and "stegosaurian".

I ordered one of those, waited 6-8 weeks for delivery and when I finally received it the only hidden messages I could find said "drink more oil of ad hominem" and "eat more red herring."

We could always make our own.

It would be fun to see whether an appropriate mask applied to Mr Arrington's posts could always yield the statement "I'm a liar".

His latest one, on "Nihilism at TSZ", does fit. Can I claim a self-evident truth?

Incidentally, does he realise that the statement "A=A" is trivial, and cannot be extended to "A=B"?

Do you think his head would explode if someone were to point out that  
Quote
A times B = B times A
is not universally true?

Date: 2015/09/11 08:22:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 11 2015,06:05)
   
Quote (Learned Hand @ Sep. 10 2015,19:26)
Your fancy math humor is lost on me. I only grok slapstick, farce, and Jerome K. Jerome.

To be honest, it's lost on me too. But the order of multiplying matrices matters, so mathematicians tell me.

Actually, that's the important point. If there's any humour about, it's only that Barry Arrington's mathematical naivety is laughable.

Mathematicians and physicists use matrices because the collection of operations that have been defined to manipulate them map onto real world actions in useful ways. The process called "matrix multiplication" is so called because there are similarities with the multiplication of simple numbers, but there are also significant dissimilarities.

What Barry clearly does not understand when he prattles on about "2+2=4" as a "self-evident truth", is that the whole of arithmetic is merely a definition - one of the UD posters got close to the crux of the issue a few days ago, when they talked about "fourness" and "counting". Integer arithmetic is a way of avoiding having to count. And, of course, humans have to learn how to count.

Can someone throw Peano's Axioms at Barry sometime?

Date: 2015/09/11 10:28:19, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 11 2015,10:27)
But will he see the light?

Fiat lux.

Date: 2015/09/16 11:21:47, Link
Author: KevinB
Latest silly post at the other place.....

Can nature itself create genetic engineering?

You only need to ask "Can nature itself create civil engineering?" to reveal the utter foolishness of the question.

Date: 2015/09/17 06:44:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Sep. 17 2015,01:33)
Denyse seems to be having trouble with her headline writer again:
     
Quote
Further to homo Naledi not pubb’d in Nature

Just what word are they trying to abbreviate?

Denews is obviously having problems with the distinction between "Nature (capitalised) and "nature" (not capitalised) (Like "ID" vs "id")

Is she trying to argue that homo naledi didn't have pubs and so weren't really "civilised"?

No doubt she thinks that the bones were washed into the cave by The Flood, and were thus antediluvian and predated Noah's discovery of alcohol.

Date: 2015/09/18 11:31:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 18 2015,11:24)
Quote
6
Barry ArringtonSeptember 17, 2015 at 7:08 pm
1. Peaceful, innocent eye witnesses are slain by representatives of a repressive government rather than recant the truth they actually observed.

2. Deluded fanatics who witnessed nothing but believed a lie kill innocent victims as they commit suicide.

Popperian at comment 3 says 1 and 2 are just the same. Do you have no shame Popperian? At long last sir, do you have no shame?

You are useful to us though. You put on display the viciously corrosive mendacity inherent in the atheist-materialist anti-Christian bigot worldview.


high dudgeon from King Tard

The degree of superiority of his self-evidently absolute system of ethics doesn't entitle him to anything above low dudgeon.

Date: 2015/09/22 11:43:09, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that KF is having a new outbreak of "A=A"

Back to ID Basics....

Do you think it would be possible to point out the self-evident truth that

              "Kairosfocus" = "Specific named inhabitant of Montserrat"

without triggering a conniption fit?

Date: 2015/09/23 05:44:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 22 2015,18:08)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 22 2015,16:51)
Quote (Cubist @ Sep. 22 2015,15:36)
I was under the impression that "Virgil Cain" was a sockpuppet of Gallien's?

Can't be. Virgil is far more stupid than Joe

Joe's stupidity is very close to the largest number.

Are they dating?

Date: 2015/09/26 15:20:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 25 2015,16:06)
Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 25 2015,15:48)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 25 2015,16:21)
i've half a mind to register something like BA77IsaLoudMoron at UD.

Why not register as GordonMullings?  No one else is using that name.

Can a couple of words = POTW? !!!

Maybe a new award... Line Of The Week?

If posts were graded on quantity rather than quality, no-one would get a look-in between KF and B***A****77

Date: 2015/10/01 11:55:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 01 2015,10:45)
the PCID website doesn't even work anymore. They didn't even say 'this is important work, we should archive it'. because they know it was horseshit.

I would dispute this assessment on the grounds that the PCID stuff wasn't even useful in the garden (even Ken Ham's).

Date: 2015/10/02 05:22:32, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 01 2015,14:43)
The very best scientists cannot separate gobbledy form gook.

But the folks here who allowed the Gary Gaulin thread to carry on for hundreds of pages are nothing if not patient.

Ah. yes. AtBC, where the patient are in charge of the asylum.

Date: 2015/10/02 07:41:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (rossum @ Oct. 02 2015,03:43)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 01 2015,17:13)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 01 2015,17:03)
   
Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 01 2015,07:03)
   
Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 01 2015,07:50)
     
Quote (Dr.GH @ Sep. 11 2015,20:47)
I wrote the confidentiality agreement all the expert advisers agreed to for the NCSE.

I didn't put in a time limit, but as I wrote it, I think that 10 years is enough.

Actually, I read the court scripts from NCSE many times and I am planning to write science book about the SECOND DOVER-LIKE TRIAL in where both the supporters of ToE and my new discoveries will literally fight in the scientific court of law...

It would be the battle between science vs science, experiments vs experiments and reality vs reality...

It would be fun...

Or you could write a paper, have it published, then discussed... like actual scientists do.

Or do you follow the Dembski logic where you have realized that you'd get more money from a book and your "scientific paper" would get tossed in the trash by any reasonable journal?

Where's the fun in that, Ogre?  I, like Postrado, want to see a literal fight.  

It's traditional for the party who was challenged to choose the weapons: shall we say custard pies?

Flagella.

Flagella, fine.  But they have to be wearing Naugahyde thigh boots, and post the video on YouTube.

:D

rossum

Has there been horizontal gene transfer into this thread from the "Mullings Meander"?

Date: 2015/10/02 09:34:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Oct. 02 2015,08:41)

Here is a good example of where and how you go so far off the rails the train isn't even visible.

I was thinking of one of those "haunted house" type fairground rides, with the little cars that run round a contorted, and ultimately circular, track.

Date: 2015/10/05 16:24:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 05 2015,13:27)
Quote (dazz @ Oct. 05 2015,12:12)
Quote (BillB @ Oct. 05 2015,12:05)
Barry:    
Quote
There are two kinds of atheists: Those who realize and freely admit that they are free-loading on a religious moral framework and those who either do not realize it or do not admit it if they do.


Thats three, not two.

LMFAO

2=3. LOI violation. Barry please expel yourself from UD.

Obviously, it doesn't count.

Date: 2015/10/07 07:06:20, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 06 2015,16:16)
22 of the 40 comments on that thread are by Gordon Mullings.

He's slacking.

Report him to the Fishing Reel Manufacturers' Trade Association.

Date: 2015/10/08 09:49:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Zachriel @ Oct. 08 2015,08:58)
Upright BiPed invokes “spatially-oriented representations”.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-582300

All we're lacking is the acronym to make the Tardheap of History.

Looks like an opportunity for MrIntelligentDesign to extend his list of publications with Feng Shui of Intelligent Design

Date: 2015/10/08 11:46:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 08 2015,10:22)
 
Quote (dazz @ Oct. 08 2015,18:08)
 
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 08 2015,16:37)
If you are curious you will find some links to MrIntelligentDesign's recent book sales here.
October sales for

Atheism and Intelligent Design (Kindle Edition) = 0
The New Intelligent Design, Turning The Scientific World Upside Down (Kindle Edition) = 0
Psychology Of Intelligent Design (Kindle Edition) = 0
Physics of Intelligent Design = 0
Biology Of Intelligent Design (First Edition edition) = no sales rank available
Intelligent Design must explain = no sales rank available
Philosophy Of Intelligent Design = no sales rank available
Guide A Child To Enjoy School = no data
Peer-Review and the New Intelligent Design: a documentary = no data

Why does the term windbag comes to mind?

LMFAO, not a single sale

How does Amazon have a remainder sale? Put the files on a 386 server in Burkina Faso?

eBay?

Date: 2015/10/12 08:17:57, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 12 2015,00:27)
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2015.......ge.html

Is he going to claim that the blog site persecuted him by taking so long to getting round to him?

Date: 2015/10/12 10:23:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 12 2015,09:33)
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 12 2015,07:17)
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 12 2015,00:27)
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2015.......ge.html

Is he going to claim that the blog site persecuted him by taking so long to getting round to him?

Sensory deprivation?

Certainly not common sensory deprivation....

Date: 2015/10/12 13:22:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 12 2015,12:52)
 
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 12 2015,09:25)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 11 2015,22:17)
Joey is testing Elizabeth's patience with his latest sock puppet at TSZ. A turd by any other name, will smell as sweet.

Elizabeth is fine. What I don't understand is why others are responding of Joey, or even reading his posts.

I agree, but interacting with Joe is like picking at a scab. You know you shouldn't do it but occasionally you give into the urge. And then you regret it.

Relax, don't do it

Date: 2015/10/16 11:47:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (ChemiCat @ Oct. 16 2015,11:36)
 
Quote
Since I knew what the outcome would be: it's not an issue for me.


Intelligent design is dead in the water, Gaulin. So why do you insist of trying to breathe life into it, apart from insanity?

BTW, Postcardo is so far ahead in the Crank Stakes that you are not even on the horizon yet.

That metaphore doesn't work on a flat earth.....

Date: 2015/10/21 07:30:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (N.Wells @ Oct. 21 2015,06:33)
Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,05:47)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Oct. 20 2015,07:24)
 
Quote
0 < P < 1...natural

1.111111111... ~ 1.4999999...instinct

1.5 < iProb < 3...intelligence

3...perfect intelligence

3+....importance

Hello Edgar,
So what does a value between 1 and 1.1111111 indicate?  Also, what to you is "importance"?

You did not give me the math for your claims. YOU LIED and YOU CONTINUE telling lies..

Those seem to me like perfectly legitimate questions.  You have a gap between 1 and 1.11111 and I'd like to know what's in it.  Earlier you said that way too much (>3) was not intellen, but now you say it's "importance", and I'm not sure what you mean by that.

That's not fair!

He's in quite enough trouble without you bringing up Cantor.....

Date: 2015/10/21 11:46:56, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 21 2015,03:08)
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 20 2015,22:53)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2015,16:54)
   
Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 20 2015,14:25)
WTF
Two guesses who wrote this:        
Quote
Common ancestry was at one time mainly a religious dispute. Everyone thinks they know what happened at the iconic Scopes “Monkey” Trial (they don’t, actually)

Commenter DaveS points out that she is still banging on about biologists replacing the tree of life with a circle.  Based on this.

Even Denyse O'Leary cannot be so dumb that she forgot that she was corrected when she made the very same claim back in 2011 here, here and here. One can only conclude that she is a dishonest nasty person who wilfully lying.

2011? That's, like, years ago.

How far back do we need to go to exceed some of the UD commentors' reading ages?

Date: 2015/10/22 12:36:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01)
Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller

If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me.

Does this put Mr Intelligent Design in the same category as the stoned Californian(?) who phoned up JRR Tolkien late at night (at least at the Oxford end) to ask whether Balrogs have wings?

Date: 2015/10/22 13:29:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 22 2015,12:40)
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 21 2015,15:52)
this is the most ironic goddam thing in the history of Spacetime:

   
Quote
How to Distort Data With Charts 101
October 21, 2015

Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design

No Comments

We’ve all heard the old saw about lies, damn lies and statistics.  It seems the aphorism holds when the statistics are charted.  Here is the only chart you will ever need when discussing global warming:



You don't need to be Edward Fucking Tufte to see the problem, do you?

wow

Yes. What idiot puts that many ticks on the y-axis?

Can you catch Lyme disease from a UD post?

Can you make an effective tick-repellent from watermelons?

Date: 2015/10/23 07:32:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 23 2015,04:07)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 22 2015,16:11)
Damn, I was expecting this article to be about Barry, Mapou, Joe/Virgil/Frankie and Kairos (don't call me Gordon Mullings) Focus.


How some patients who appear to be in a vegetative state remain consciousHow some patients who appear to be in a vegetative state...

I've been to scientific talks like that.

You can leave out "scientific" without loss of accuracy (while including most of the OPs on UD)

Date: 2015/10/23 11:29:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (fnxtr @ Oct. 23 2015,09:01)

If MrID and MrGG were to follow NOMAD's example and self-destruct on error, this board would be a much quieter place.

Date: 2015/10/28 14:01:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Dr.GH @ Oct. 28 2015,13:47)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 28 2015,00:13)
He corresponded with me to clear a glitch in his registration here at the outset. Is he claiming censorship has been applied at AtBC?

No. He apparently sent t lot of comments to ScienceNews that he claims they "censored."

I suspect they had URLs which that site will not allow.

The site is now blocking my replies to Kevie as well.

This led me to the thought "filtered" and from there inexorably to DeNews' "Coffee"

Date: 2015/10/29 09:40:55, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 29 2015,07:48)
Very rich vein in the mines.

Intravenous woo. Dangerously addictive.

Mapou appears not to be convinced. Does he think that the papists are inherently Theistic Evolutionists?

Is he going to declare that  
Quote
The Bishop of Rome hath no jurisdiction in this Realm of Intelligent Design

and will he be excommunicated thereby?

Date: 2015/11/02 12:19:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 02 2015,11:08)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 01 2015,08:06)
 
Quote
News: Think about your own closet, a designed system (if you are not an utter slob), and you will see what I mean:

Possible classifications of junk that is not trash:

1. I will need it later, but it seems like junk now (snow shovel).

2. I may need it later, and it seems like junk now (snorkel).

3. I will likely never need it but the by-laws require me to have one (2 50 litre bottles of water).

4. I can’t imagine needing this but you never know (hibachi and charcoal bricks).

5. I don’t need it but it is too much trouble/expense to get rid of (awkward shelves built into the wall).

6. I used to need it but can’t make up my mind to get rid of it yet (clothes from younger days).

7. I don’t need it but it has intrinsic value. (The bread machine my sister left here when she moved.)

8. Stuff you are planning to give to the Sally Ann, in a bag, but they haven’t called by yet.

9. Trash. (Candy wrappers on the floor, the pink second copies of the dry cleaner’s invoices (never detached), dead house fly.)

Of course, this argument only makes sense if you accept common descent, that the "junk" in a primordial genome will be useful to descendant organisms. This is one of the strange features of ID, most of the time they argue against common descent, but will then make arguments which implicitly depend on common descent.

This explains why no one will ever answer the question: Is it plausible that we will ever show that rabbits lived in the Cambrian? They know in the back of their minds that there is a succession of forms, but can't admit it at the front of their minds.

This list is oddly specific...

I presume it's the contents of News' own closet.

I initially read "in-laws" rather than "by-laws" in point 3, which was rather puzzling.

If Zachriel's statement about Cambrian rabbits and "succession of forms" were to be made at UD, what would be the likelihood of it eliciting an accusation of confusing rabbits and hares?

Date: 2015/11/02 14:33:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Zachriel @ Oct. 31 2015,09:45)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 29 2015,07:12)
Mapou isn't happy about the DNA of Jesus
     
Quote
I am quickly losing interest in UD. I sense a hidden agenda and I don’t like it. But I’ll keep lurking for a little while longer to see if things get better. This thread is the worst one I’ve seen since I started frequenting the site. It’s beyond ludicrous and it offends both my intelligence and my faith.

I have some sympathy for him, although being on the other side of the debate means I quite like that thread.

That page seems to have disappeared.

 
Quote
Error 404: page not found

The page you are looking for is not here


Here is the cached version.
http://tinyurl.com/nbt9wr6....nbt9wr6

Obviously, "404" is the wrong code. They should be returning  
Quote
410 Gone
Indicates that the resource requested is no longer available and will not be available again.

or quite possibly
 
Quote
418 I'm a teapot (RFC 2324)

Date: 2015/11/04 06:56:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 03 2015,16:39)
Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 03 2015,15:39)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 03 2015,01:46)
The Whole Truth: "UD has apparently blocked my IP address and all of its variations."

Barry ought to charge for that.

Yeah, in a way he did me a 'free' favor by blocking my IP addresses. Because he did so I'm even less likely to go to UD and subject myself to the massive amount of tard there. :D

New hobby: Getting as many IP addresses blocked as possible.  Bonuses for getting Barry to inadvertently block UD regulars.

Why limit your ambition to merely blocks of addresses? Go for whole countries!

Start with Montserrat and work up to Canada.

Date: 2015/11/05 11:05:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 05 2015,10:57)
Joe finally admits the picture is of him:

"I have the picture in its entirety, Richie. There isn't any bulge around the midsection and the sweatshirt hangs from my chest. "

He's so easy to manipulate.

Does the app require you to install Java, or will regular joe suffice?

Date: 2015/11/06 13:31:42, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Nov. 05 2015,12:04)
If we could rent a lecture hall at the University of Science, Arts, and Technology, Montserrat we might organize a "Intelligent Design: New Perspectives" symposium and find a Christian publisher for the proceedings.

Failing that, you might enquire whether there's a back room available at the local fishing tackle shop.

Date: 2015/11/09 10:24:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2015,10:36)
Quote
With innocent blood crying up from the ground.

Again.

KF


Gordon Mullings's Brain is broked.

There is no theory of Kairosfocus' brain.

(See. I can do UD debating, too.....)

Date: 2015/11/19 11:13:55, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 19 2015,11:09)
seriously doubt Barry's '15 years studying Darwinism' included reading any of darwin's books. If my sock had worked out i'd ask him myself.

He was probably studying accurate, authoritative texts by such authors as Jack Chick.

Date: 2015/11/24 12:32:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 24 2015,10:05)
Barry's response, literally ONE MINUTE LATER:

 
Quote
71

Barry Arrington

November 23, 2015 at 9:16 pm

I have to pack for my Thanksgiving trip. I’m out until next Monday.


now THAT is fucking funny.

So when he sits down  for Thanksgiving Dinner there will be two turkeys at the table......

Date: 2015/11/27 09:40:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Lethean @ Nov. 27 2015,09:31)
Good lord, a couple of posts down in that thread.

   
Quote

Mapou  November 26, 2015 at 10:22 am

   
Quote
Byers:

   Mapou
   By Darwinist plant do you mean the old strict selection on mutation or the modern inclusions of genetic drift?? evolutionists complain if Darwinism is used as the title in describing the evolution of things like plants.


There is no doubt that you are a gutless Darwinist plant. You often drop your guard and change your writing style from that of a homophobic Bible-thumping moron to a highly educated (brainwashed) Darwinist pretending to be otherwise. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You people are not nearly as smart as you think you are. Your little religious cult is cretinous to a fault.


Now, it's been noticed a time or two that occasionally Robert will produce a post that seems to have a clarity that is fairly uncharacteristic of his usual output, but FFS.

If Bobby were a plant, would he be a Toxicodendron species?

Date: 2015/11/27 10:07:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 27 2015,09:59)
Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 27 2015,17:40)
 
Quote (Lethean @ Nov. 27 2015,09:31)
Good lord, a couple of posts down in that thread.

     
Quote

Mapou  November 26, 2015 at 10:22 am

     
Quote
Byers:

   Mapou
   By Darwinist plant do you mean the old strict selection on mutation or the modern inclusions of genetic drift?? evolutionists complain if Darwinism is used as the title in describing the evolution of things like plants.


There is no doubt that you are a gutless Darwinist plant. You often drop your guard and change your writing style from that of a homophobic Bible-thumping moron to a highly educated (brainwashed) Darwinist pretending to be otherwise. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You people are not nearly as smart as you think you are. Your little religious cult is cretinous to a fault.


Now, it's been noticed a time or two that occasionally Robert will produce a post that seems to have a clarity that is fairly uncharacteristic of his usual output, but FFS.

If Bobby were a plant, would he be a Toxicodendron species?

Is that a weed? I reckon he would be a dope plant.

You're obviously not paying attention. There's a very nice photo of a Toxicodendron species on the main PT page, with a discussion on the correct species attribution and a link to a paper on the cladistics of the genus (which itself references a 1988 paper by J Felsenstein.)

Date: 2015/11/30 07:52:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 30 2015,01:26)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 30 2015,03:34)
I do though love the word flow in "Grand unified theory of machine learning". It's a short but simple way of summing up what I have.

'Drivel' is shorter.

There are even shorter possibilities, but not necessarily appropriate for polite company.

And as for word flow "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" does very nicely, is just as meaningful, and comes set to music as well!

Date: 2015/11/30 09:24:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Nov. 30 2015,08:22)
Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 30 2015,08:52)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 30 2015,01:26)
   
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 30 2015,03:34)
I do though love the word flow in "Grand unified theory of machine learning". It's a short but simple way of summing up what I have.

'Drivel' is shorter.

There are even shorter possibilities, but not necessarily appropriate for polite company.

And as for word flow "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" does very nicely, is just as meaningful, and comes set to music as well!

But according to Gary's "theory", music is not one of the 'features of the universe best explained [sic] by intelligent cause'.

Well, he obviously doesn't understand that it'll take more than A Spoonful of Sugar to help his theory go down, and he persists after 523 pages of being told to Go Fly a Kite.

Date: 2015/12/03 08:41:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 03 2015,08:28)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 02 2015,15:28)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 02 2015,15:20)
 
Quote (LarTanner @ Dec. 02 2015,14:37)
Two fewer instances of "Jack" near "off" and the post might have sailed through without incident. I shouldn't have been greedy: I had other lascivious bits in there.

In my defense, for someone as vile and nasty as Jack Jones (i.e., his online persona), penis and sex imagery are the most dignified and effective manner of response.

I probably didn't help by bolding those two words and asking you if it was too subtle. But it did result in Mullings closing comments on another thread, and posting four additional OPs to explain how bad we are. Comments off, of course.

I wonder if he has ever had a sense of humour.

My mistake. Five additional comments off OPs. Are we approaching a record here?

Six and counting.

Someone will be needing a new set of pearls for Christmas.

Date: 2015/12/07 07:33:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 07 2015,01:47)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Dec. 06 2015,19:41)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 04 2015,08:33)
In a less enlightened age, the village idiot would have been marketed as a tourist attraction.

I will have say that the UD gang of twits are village idiots that are our attraction.

I like to think of UD as a sort of reality show.  One with lots of comic relief.

Well, it is already rather like Big Brother, with Barry playing Big Brother. They already have the speakers in the ceiling, too.

Of course, DeNews would object to shared bathrooms on the grounds that they are "socialist". She'd probably also object to the idea of cameras in the bathrooms, but not as much as KF.....

Date: 2015/12/08 11:08:09, Link
Author: KevinB
UD is unavailable for me at present.

Is this just the Internet reminding the IDists that information is not always conserved, or has Barry done his famous Soufriere Hills impression and blocked the whole of the UK address range?

Date: 2015/12/09 05:47:24, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 08 2015,21:36)
Mullings and sobriety....

Well, we are approaching the season when it is proper to imbibe liberal servings of hot, spiced wine.....

Date: 2015/12/09 12:00:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 09 2015,11:44)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 09 2015,09:13)
Is Mullings suggesting installing permanent machine-gun emplacements in all public halls?

Is that really what I'm reading?

Not exactly...
   
Quote
Any sign of a police no go area should be taken as grounds for military occupation and resolution of issues leading to long term enhanced police presence. And while that is in the mix, the same can doubtless be extended in some reasonable measure to general crime hot spots.

... he's suggesting installing permanent machine-gun emplacements everywhere.

Basically, he's got a big no-go area on his doorstep, and thinks that everywhere else has to have one too.....

              gov.uk travel advice - Montserrat

Date: 2015/12/10 08:01:45, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 10 2015,02:47)
Sorry, but this needs correcting:
   
Quote (paragwinn @ Dec. 09 2015,12:12)
...

22: Hotline to local artillery units in case you need to call down fire on your position (3rd to last resort)

23: Hotline to local military air base in case you need a daisy-cutter bomb delivered to your position (2nd to last resort)

24: Hotline to local nuclear bunker, including instructions on where to find bike lock (last resort)

Personally, I suspect that KF's UD account has been hacked, and this is a forgery. For a start, there's absolutely no reference to fishing reels.

Date: 2015/12/15 10:47:39, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 15 2015,10:04)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2015,06:18)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 14 2015,22:10)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 14 2015,16:46)
Comedy Gold.

     
Quote
KF: “ The circumstances of the USA make civilian marshals a reasonable option, and I am sure relevant authorities scan the web enough that any needed pickup will happen.”

Thank you for the biggest laugh I have had in years. I admit to having a fairly big ego, but to think that the US (or your tiny island government) takes your ideas seriously is seriously delusional.

I apologize for being this direct, but I thought a serious corrective was warranted.

Devastating rejoinder:
     
Quote
Enough of red herrings led away to strawman caricatures laced with ad hominems and set alight to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere
(...40 feet of the usual nonsense deleted - JW)

That should settle the matter.

To be followed by:
 
Quote
All, to be lost in the mocking laugh, I suppose, along with the cynical dismissal of the Christian faith and its foundational ethical theism. Never mind that after centuries of debate, there is only one serious candidate IS to ground OUGHT: the inherently good creator God, a necessary and maximally great being worthy of loyalty and the reasonable service of doing the good in accord with our nature.


Not to be out done by the following shout:

 
Quote
(AND GE, YOUR EARLY CYNICAL GAMBIT TO TRY TO DEFLECT THE EXPOSURE OF THE HABITUAL RESORT TO THE TRIFECTA FALLACY OF DISTRACT, DISTORT DENIGRATE, STANDS EXPOSED FOR ITS INTELLECTUAL AND MORAL BANKRUPTCY.)


And:

 
Quote
It is noteworthy that objectors, obviously coming from the circle of anti_ID sites,


All of this interspersed with classic Mullings paranoia.

The best thing about Gordo is he's his own best parody. He should take his act on to You Tube and do it with interpretive dance set to WW2 German marching songs dressed as Donald Trump.

Would those WW2 German marching songs be wearing toupees as well?

KF would have to try very hard to beat  Just like you, a bit more Gay

Mind you, I like the idea of anti-ID sites with early-warning radar, searchlights and anti-ID guns. Can we have nightfighters as well, please, the better for shooting Barry's arguments down in flames?

Date: 2015/12/18 16:19:41, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 18 2015,15:31)
You know, this sudden difficulty connecting to UD could be positive proof that God exists and that He loves you and wants to protect you.  

From His followers.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by Barry Arrington.





Date: 2015/12/18 16:27:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 18 2015,11:22)
Nick has a response at PandasThumb pointing out that he used techniques for the creationist legislation that he had developed and applied under the research grants in the acknowledgments, giving another reason why West is out to lunch on this.

Plus, he got in a dig at West over the whole intolerance for academic freedom thing. Bonus!

The DI is probably having a conniption fit, because one paper in Science probably outpoints the DI's entire publication record for the last 5 years.

Date: 2015/12/22 07:56:25, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Dec. 22 2015,00:55)
Joe G, sorry Virgil Cain, writing on behalf of the ID community:
   
Quote
BTW I would not only pass an introductory course in biology I would show the professor how ignorant we really are when it comes to evolution.

Couldn't agree more.
UD link

He appears to have lapsed into the "royal we" half way through the sentence.

Date: 2015/12/22 12:04:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 22 2015,10:30)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Dec. 22 2015,05:56)
 
Quote (Ptaylor @ Dec. 22 2015,00:55)
Joe G, sorry Virgil Cain, writing on behalf of the ID community:
       
Quote
BTW I would not only pass an introductory course in biology I would show the professor how ignorant we really are when it comes to evolution.

Couldn't agree more.
UD link

He appears to have lapsed into the "royal we" half way through the sentence.

Pass as in "walk by without stopping", or pass as in "kidney stone"?

He obviously has a weak hand.

I'll go for the Gallifreyan counter-bid:  Two Hearts

Date: 2015/12/23 12:42:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 23 2015,11:12)
Zachriel, when i go to UD i look for your comments. They're great. And casual readers of UD can easily see that KF, Mung, BatShit, etc aren't in the same league.

KF gives the impression that he thinks he's in the Justice League of America, even as far as wearing his underpants outside his trousers.

He even has a secret identity.

Date: 2016/01/06 13:23:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2016,12:31)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 05 2016,20:27)
Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere?

I wanna say that was chapter 9?

There was a chapter, but it was banned after the notorious hazing incident when they used too much oil of ad hominem, and burned down the gymnasium.

Date: 2016/01/07 07:42:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,20:59)
Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43)
Gordo:                
Quote
The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry —

I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.  

The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away.

Bydand!


I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home.

I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego.

Does he even achieve fish status? I'd put him at the same level as the snail my nieces have in their fish tank to keep down the algae.

Date: 2016/01/08 07:22:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (paragwinn @ Jan. 07 2016,18:29)
Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 07 2016,05:42)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,20:59)
   
Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15)
     
Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43)
Gordo:                    
Quote
The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry —

I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.  

The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away.

Bydand!


I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home.

I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego.

Does he even achieve fish status? I'd put him at the same level as the snail my nieces have in their fish tank to keep down the algae.

You mean the same murderous Marxist algae employing Alinskyite tactics to bring about Constitutional crises for the aquarium? Does the tank have an underwater volcano? Is the snail equipped with a Nuclear Tripwire?

No volcano, unless the thing that bubbles air counts as one.

I will have to ask how well the "So we meet again, Mr Bond" routine works with an albino ferret.

Date: 2016/01/12 07:21:02, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (someotherguy @ Jan. 11 2016,18:51)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 11 2016,11:16)
yeah the comment rate has really taken a hit in the last few days.

Speaking of the comment rate (and, sorry, this is off-topic), but I noticed that the last comment on any Panda's Thumb post occurred 7 days ago.  That seems odd to me - is the site experiencing technical problems, or is this just a lull in activity?

You should check "Board Mechanics", where PT problems are on topic.

No doubt the current problem is purely random. (The presence of a length of entangling fishing line might, of course, provide evidence of Design.)

Date: 2016/01/20 06:42:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Quack @ Jan. 20 2016,02:29)
Quote
No. They do not.

Hint: The name of that site is pronounced ENVY.

I had to take a peek, my monitor gave off a whiff of sulphur.

Sounds like you were standing to windward of the active eruption on Montserrat (or possibly to windward of the volcano....)

Date: 2016/01/25 15:00:05, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Jan. 25 2016,13:47)
what happened to ATBC for the last 24-36 hours? I haven't been able to access it.

The little man in the Chinese Room inside the board server got stuck in a snowdrift?

Date: 2016/02/03 07:52:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Feb. 02 2016,14:04)
Say what you want, but you can't deny that Spetner has a firm grasp of probability theory:
 

....but with the wrong hand?

Flanders and Swann - Misalliance

Date: 2016/02/03 07:55:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 02 2016,18:25)
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 02 2016,18:18)
that thread has a double-dose of Gary Gaulin, btw.

Can we sue them for slander for calling Gaulin a Darwinist?

They'll probably counter-sue for us describing Barry as a lawyer.

Date: 2016/02/03 09:43:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 03 2016,09:24)
Quote (KevinB @ Feb. 03 2016,15:55)
   
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 02 2016,18:25)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 02 2016,18:18)
that thread has a double-dose of Gary Gaulin, btw.

Can we sue them for slander for calling Gaulin a Darwinist?

They'll probably counter-sue for us describing Barry as a lawyer.

Only when he's not 'doing science'.

The proportion of the time that he's 'doing science' is less than Dembski's lower bound on what is possible.

Date: 2016/02/04 11:10:57, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 04 2016,10:59)
Quote (Leftfield @ Feb. 04 2016,06:12)
Law #1: For any creature with legs, the legs in their resting state will be exactly as long as the distance from the creature's body to the ground.

Therefore designed. I mean what are the chances, out of all possible leg lengths?

The Three Laws of Evidence:
1.  Any scientific discovery, past, present, or future, was predicted by ID.
2.  Any evidence which makes intelligent life more probable is evidence that intelligent life was a planned outcome, hence the universe was designed for us.  Therefore Jesus.
3.   Any evidence which makes intelligent life less probable is evidence that we're rare and special, hence the universe was designed for us.  Therefore Jesus.

There's always the ID variant of Arthur C Clarke's Laws....

1. If an Intelligent Design Theorist says that something is possible, they are probably right. If an Intelligent Design Theorist says that something is impossible, they are probably William Dembski.

2.  Any sufficiently advanced Intelligent Design Theory is indistinguishable from Creationism.

Date: 2016/02/16 10:27:49, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 16 2016,10:20)
 
Quote
Dr. Winston Ewert, a Senior Research Scientist


What is it with these Daily Show titles?

I think it means he does his research during his senior moments.

Date: 2016/02/18 08:38:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 18 2016,07:00)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,03:32)
           
Quote
Is the Royal Society Finally Catching Up with Our Own Upright Biped?
February 16, 2016 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design


linky

Barry jumps a mole hill. It's a slow day at the daily grimace. Today's opener under that scion of big tent churchly Everyone knows they're Crazy YEC at UD mast head should read "Which Anonymous Fuck Tard should I match up against 'Teh Evil EmpireTM©'.

scene opens with Barry playing Barry Arrington except hisself is a  much more handsome version, complete with a full head of hair

<check casting to see if Paul 'I AM NOT DRINKING ANY MERLOT' Giamatti is available on the cheap with a big curly ginger wig>

camera pans to the back of a luxuriant head of hair pauses for a little longer than would normally be comfortable then pulls back to reveal BA pondering a list of UD regulars on his iphone screen

BA muttering and swiping, then finally talking aloud
All these useless anonymous cunts couldn't buy a fuck in a knock shop with a fist full of Benjimins. Who's going to take it up to those God Damn Brits. Royals, you can't live with them and you can't live without them.  Fuck, it looks like that dickwad Useless Bi-tard gets to be point man.

<BA notes to self ...must take this further when time allows>
<Giamatti unavailable fuck fuck fuck cunt>

Are you suggesting that BA, having recruited an unemployed attack gerbil to fill the vacancy for a white, long-haired cat, has become confused and is wearing same a la Donald Trump?

Date: 2016/02/19 06:48:24, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,18:12)
Quote
323

Mung

February 18, 2016 at 10:02 am
Alicia Cartelli: Learn some basic biology, then get back to me.

Ah. I finally see the problem. You are stuck at basic biology and the concepts we are discussing are above your head.

We should dumb things down for you?


Dear Alicia: Please don't straight-up murder Mung. I know, I know, but just please don't.

If the biology is too basic, your buffer solution is not up to the job. Add some HCl.

Date: 2016/02/19 09:32:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 19 2016,08:24)
*** and it looks like Barry and Joe are getting a little too much science in that case...

They probably can't tell the difference between Methodological Naturalism and Baking.

Date: 2016/02/23 11:06:23, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 23 2016,10:12)
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 23 2016,16:35)
 
Quote
450

Alicia Cartelli

February 23, 2016 at 8:16 am

EA: “Play around with binding sites all you want; it doesn’t help explain the origin of significant amounts of biological information.”
The paper demonstrates some of the possible final steps towards the evolution of a protein that exists today. The last few steps in the path.
Just because you decided to start using the word “significant” and demanding that we show how evolution traveled the entire path, doesn’t mean you can claim that I “literature bluffed.”
I never claimed that the paper demonstrates how a protein evolved from scratch.
I said the paper shows how a protein can evolve from intermediates, which is what pucci asked for in an earlier post.
“loss of binding site specificity” does not mean loss of information. And actually the same paper demonstrates exactly that.
The evolutionary intermediates bound the wild-type partner with less affinity, but they also bound other proteins with significant affinity. (Not that you would know this since you didn’t read the paper) So I would argue that in this case, and probably many others in the course of evolution, that “loss of binding spite specificity” can result in an increase in information. The protein may not be binding as tightly to a single specific protein, but it is now binding tightly to a few other proteins. This is binding promiscuity and is evolution exploring sequence space for binding sites that promote interactions with other proteins.

Anyways, even mungy accepts the fact that 99% of species to have ever liver are extinct.
He managed to get out of the third grade, why can’t you?


linky

Mungies liver assploded when his faith was questioned.

At least the next time Barry nukes a critic's account into toast, there will be pate to go with it.

Date: 2016/03/01 14:52:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 01 2016,10:26)
Wonder how much cash Dembski got out of Barry for the keys to that shack of idiots?

Dr Dr D might well have had to pay Barry to get it towed....

Date: 2016/03/10 06:21:00, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 09 2016,22:19)
Joe obviously hasn't stayed at Hilbert's Hotel.

He trashed the bathroom last time, so he's not been allowed back - unlike UD, where trashing the bathroom is mandatory.

Date: 2016/03/18 11:11:50, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 17 2016,15:30)
Moar!
Quote
To recap- P(T|H) is the probability of event T given event H. The | stands for given. P(H|T) would be the probability of event H given event T

If P(H|T) = 0 then it proves the claim to be untestable.

So I have to retract what I said above as I see the relevance. P(T|H) cannot be calculated because P(H|T) = 0. And evolutionism is not science

I expect we'll get a "not even zero" soon.

Our resident theoretical physicist has been telling the statisticians that he finds negative probabilities useful in his current lines of research.

Date: 2016/05/03 12:39:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ May 03 2016,11:16)
I'm reading The Last Continent, one of the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett, and he gives a description of Wizards that I think describes the UD crowd to a Tee:
   
Quote
A herd of self regarding village idiots.

I'd suggest that they're more like the Clowns' Guild, who insist that all humour must conform to the Rules, and vigorously discipline failure to conform.

Date: 2016/05/10 10:58:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ May 09 2016,18:29)
 
Quote
134
ziggy lorencMay 9, 2016 at 4:27 pm
EZ — “I wouldn’t agree to that. And US laws (and all the laws from Western Countries) do not say that. Why do you have to bring up extreme cases?”

Because it is the only way he can justify his untenable position? Was that the right answer? What do I win?
   
Quote


135
ziggy lorencMay 9, 2016 at 4:31 pm
KF — “ZL, your problem is…”

Whenever someone starts a sentence with something as pompously arrogant as this, I stop reading. If you are willing to reword it in a civil fashion, I will respond.

Holding my breath waiting.

Actually, I am not. I am not stupid enough to expect that you are capable of being less pompously arrogant.


ziggy if you cause our chewtoy KF to stroke out we will be very mad at you :angry:

Er... Is that the sort of stroke that might be available in a brothel?

Date: 2016/05/17 11:03:53, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ May 16 2016,22:02)
 
Quote (Learned Hand @ May 16 2016,17:57)
This article comes to us by way of the Harv- nope. I mean Ya- no, not that either. Maybe the Stanf-... hmmmm. Oh, Trinity Law School. Which has a long-term goal of being approved by the ABA (in other words, yikes).

Why did Waterloo come to my mind?

Um. This isn't the Mornington Crescent thread.

BTW "Waterloo" is a very risky move. People have been dismissed for playing "Waterloo" at the wrong time.

Date: 2016/05/20 13:14:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 19 2016,19:38)
Quote
clown fishMay 19, 2016 at 6:34 pm
KairosFocus: “Notice the smokescreening and tangential topic diversion?”

WTF?

Are you suggesting that the faith you believe in is not morally superior to Islam? Or Judaism? Or Hindu? Or Buddhism? Or the FSM? If not, why do you follow it? Does that seem rational to you?


Mullings is as predictable as clockwork.

If you are crossing the heath and find him on the ground, leave him there!

Date: 2016/05/26 07:46:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ May 25 2016,18:16)
 
Quote (Woodbine @ May 25 2016,17:56)
VJ Torley, can you tell me the correct way to date women please?

Asking for a friend.

Carbon-14?

Only for certain forms of paraphilia, since the 14C clock starts at the point of death.......

Date: 2016/05/26 07:55:55, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 26 2016,07:39)
Gordon (KairosFocus) Mullings appears to have a hard-on for Clown Fish.

Another FYI-FTR

Wikipedia says (about clown fish)
   
Quote
Most anemonefish are protandrous hermaphrodites

Do you think that asking KF which bathroom a clown fish should use would make his head explode?

Date: 2016/05/27 07:01:39, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Jkrebs @ May 26 2016,21:29)
If we count pictures as even 500 words, then I'll up my prediction to 4500.

When is the new season catalog from his angling equipment supplier due?

Date: 2016/05/31 11:13:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 31 2016,10:23)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ May 31 2016,10:06)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 30 2016,15:12)
   
Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2016,16:52)
Clownfish got some teeth :p

Check out zeroseven. My hat's off to him/her/it.

Maybe we should adopt the safe "them".

Maybe zeroseven is a serial hermaphrodite like Clown Fish.

The choice of screen name puts me in mind of a Borg collective. :)

Date: 2016/05/31 17:26:28, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Jkrebs @ May 30 2016,20:44)
Clown fish writes,

Quote

Vividbleu: “Is that an absolute “may be” ? “

Of course. Have I not always admitted that I may be wrong? Unlike a certain person named Mullings that we both know?

Anybody who doesn’t admit that they may be wrong is an absolute moron.


Oops: kf isn't going to like his name being mentioned, or being called a moron.

I though he liked self-evident truths.

Date: 2016/06/01 09:04:22, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 01 2016,08:46)
 
Quote (Ptaylor @ June 01 2016,00:45)
I see StephenB has finally - after several false starts - managed to turn the theme on the Subjectivists Need to Check Their Moral Privilege thread to abortion, and lately, the evils of contraception. It's giving him the opportunity to show the kinder, more tolerant face of UD.

And here is what passes for fact in StephenB's little mind:
 
Quote
Among those who use artificial birth control, the divorce rate is 50%. Among those who use natural family planning, it is 2%.

You are making the unwarranted assumption that "those" refers to "married couples".

What percentage of unmarried teenage mothers were using natural birth control methods?

Date: 2016/06/02 10:29:08, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ June 02 2016,09:53)
we should find a vein of Gordon and run it through a word cloud generator.

You'd probably end up with a nuée ardente.

Date: 2016/06/09 07:31:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 08 2016,20:18)
 
Quote (stevestory @ June 08 2016,16:11)
zeroseven:
   
Quote
20
June 8, 2016 at 3:41 pm
It’s amazing how all those hundreds of millions of cognitively deficient, delusional atheists around the world seem to be able to live such successful and fulfilled lives. I guess they are the type of delusions and cognitive dissonances that don’t have any effect on the ability to live successful lives.


HeKS:    
Quote
Because they don’t actually live like their delusions are true. They give lip service to the delusions and defend them with generally poor arguments


They have no idea how foolish an argument this is!  :D

Smith: Robinson, I have completed my calculations. According to my deep analysis of sociology, history, economics, and anthropology, all Japanese people must eat Creme Brulee desserts at 3 a.m. without fail.
Robinson: Dr. Smith, I just came from Japan, my wife's Japanese, and many of my colleagues are Japanese, and nobody eats creme brulee at 3 am.
Smith: Well then they're all Japanning wrong!
Robinson: There's another possibility....

"That does not compute!"

"Oh, the pain, the pain!"

It would explain an awful lot if UD were an Irwin Allen production.

The gallant crew of the space ship Jupiter 1+1 are trapped on the lost planet Montserrat. Every episode they are invaded another Guest Star evolutionist, which they have to battle until they can bring Barry the Robot online to deploy the Ban Hammer.

Date: 2016/06/13 12:05:00, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ June 13 2016,11:18)
If the shooter said anything positive about extremist islam, barry can claim victory.

That should read

  "...said anything that could even vaguely be interpreted as saying something positive about extreme Islam...."

News does exactly the same thing every time she posted a link that she thinks supports ID.

Date: 2016/06/14 11:12:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Zachriel @ June 14 2016,09:29)
 
Quote (sparc @ June 14 2016,09:15)
You mean that the Montserrat Mountain Chickenwill teach Gordon Mullings evolution?

Don't show him the picture of the fucking copulating frogs, or he may end up causing irreparable damage to the wildlife of Montserrat.


Even without the picture, he might read "Cane Toads" as an imperative.

Date: 2016/06/14 12:41:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ June 14 2016,12:32)
 
Quote (KevinB @ June 14 2016,12:12)
 
Quote (Zachriel @ June 14 2016,09:29)
     
Quote (sparc @ June 14 2016,09:15)
You mean that the Montserrat Mountain Chickenwill teach Gordon Mullings evolution?

Don't show him the picture of the fucking copulating frogs, or he may end up causing irreparable damage to the wildlife of Montserrat.


Even without the picture, he might read "Cane Toads" as an imperative.

Might?
lol.  Only after he had a good lie down and the use of a towel.

Only "might" because he could quite easily read it as someone threatening violence against his person.

Date: 2016/06/15 07:40:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 15 2016,05:36)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 14 2016,15:56)
In this case, the Lord is very pleased with a vigilante double murder and promotes the murderer's family to hereditary priesthood.  However, he murdered HETEROsexuals.  I don't know if that makes a difference, although some of the UD denizens might be able to tell us.

This reminds me of a question I saw once - what, exactly, did the people of Gomorrah do?

Promote unisex bathrooms, perhaps?

Date: 2016/06/15 10:57:32, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 15 2016,09:18)
 
Quote (KevinB @ June 15 2016,07:40)
   
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 15 2016,05:36)
       
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 14 2016,15:56)
In this case, the Lord is very pleased with a vigilante double murder and promotes the murderer's family to hereditary priesthood.  However, he murdered HETEROsexuals.  I don't know if that makes a difference, although some of the UD denizens might be able to tell us.

This reminds me of a question I saw once - what, exactly, did the people of Gomorrah do?

Promote unisex bathrooms, perhaps?

OK, which one of you mooks is posting as Gordon Cunningham?   :D   :D   :D

Just so long as the hybrid's posting style isn't the cross-product.....

I see that the "Evidence for God" thread has started discussing the energy requirements for the transformation of water into wine. It'd be interesting to throw in the thought that what actually happened was that Jesus gave St Peter a couple of quid and sent him down to the off-licence.

Date: 2016/06/16 08:41:27, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 16 2016,04:28)
Imagine being K:f:

Please consult your physician first.

Do not try this at home, kids.

Date: 2016/06/20 07:00:33, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2016,08:38)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 19 2016,01:34)
William "Mindpowers" Murray got laughed out of TSZ. Hilarious that he is so prolific (and a heavy-handed censor) at UD.

If UD had standards, it wouldn't be UD.  :p

If UD had standards, there would be endless arguments as to whether flag burning ought to be protected by the First Amendment.

Perhaps we can set light to Barry the Archbanner.

Date: 2016/06/29 10:51:07, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 29 2016,00:11)
 
Quote (stevestory @ June 28 2016,18:28)
       
Quote
7
FierceRollerJune 28, 2016 at 2:50 pm
wd400 has the right of it. “Investigat[ing] alleged corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies” does not equal “criminal prosecution of anyone who dissent’s [sic].” Arrington has misrepresented what the document actually says in a way that makes it sound much broader than it actually is. Lied, in other words.


linky

mahuna absolutely flabbergasted me in the same thread:          
Quote
Originally, the Left Wing was monarchist

I think this is the first time in my life I've seen monarchy defined as left wing.  Is there an award for Outstanding Ignorance?  

The Barry Prize maybe?

Recipients are presented with an uncut gem.

Date: 2016/07/01 17:12:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Learned Hand @ July 01 2016,16:01)
Arrington seems to run a bankruptcy/debt collection shop, with a sideline in anti-gay constitutional law. If you're being hassled by debt collectors, insolvent, or really hate the gays, maybe he's your lawyer. But I'm skeptical that he's litigated many securities fraud cases, much less done them consistently for 25 years. That analysis strikes me as extremely lazy and results-oriented.

For example, even setting aside the possibility of a federal civil fraud action, it's not that hard to figure out a few ways private plaintiffs could quantify damages. Regulatory risk is the one that leaped out to me. A large investor could claim they invested $X in reliance on a prospectus that did not disclose the risk of accelerating climate change, and when that risk was realized the resulting bad PR and regulations reduced the value of that investment by $Y. Damages could be X or Y, depending on the statute in question (i.e., restitution or rescission).

As an easy example, BankCo finances a refinery expansion and takes the refinery's capacity or some equipment as collateral. OilCo needs to disclose material risks as part of the deal, but does not disclose anything related to climate change. A few years later and accelerated climate change (or even the PR associated with the disclosure that OilCo knew more than it was letting on) results in bad PR and/or tighter regulations. That reduces the value of BankCo's collateral. BankCo could go to court and argue that it would not have invested had OilCo disclosed (a) that it believed its operations were likely to accelerate climate change, or (b) that it was concurrently financing an attempt to suppress climate science. BankCo could demand that OilCo make up the difference in its collateral valuation, or even ask for rescission of the deal.

I think (b) is particularly interesting. Actual securities litigators are on the lookout for risks that weren't disclosed, and that would have affected investment decisions had they been disclosed. "We're financing a FUD campaign like the one that blew up in Big Tobacco's face" seems like it would qualify.

How likely it is that such a case could be brought depends on who the plaintiffs would be, where they are, what they invested in, etc. etc. etc. It's a much more complicated analysis than "Liar! Fraud! Communist!" And thus probably unsuited for the legal titans at UD.

Surely the risk to OilCo is not the climate change itself, but the regulatory change that might be taken to counter the climate change or the perceived risk of climate change.

The "fraud" comes not from dissenting from climate change, but from suppressing the information that the risk exists.

Date: 2016/07/12 08:02:06, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Quack @ July 12 2016,03:51)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ July 11 2016,20:14)
     
Quote (stevestory @ July 11 2016,14:58)
I forgot that there's a subdomain of UD,

behe.uncommondescent.com

Is that like the downstairs of the outhouse?

Ran out of TP, no entries since 31 January 2012.

He's too busy trying to publish on the "Irreducible Complexity of the Ball Valve" in the plumbing trade press, but he can't get the paper past peer review.

Date: 2016/07/21 06:49:27, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 20 2016,19:15)
UD has been really boring lately. Could somebody please sock up and make a comment supporting same-sex-marriage? Let's get them back on track.

Yes, it's reached the stage the Gpuccio is posting lolcats

However, he doesn't seem to have cottoned on to the idea that the accompanying text should be short and pithy.



Date: 2016/07/22 07:47:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Cubist @ July 21 2016,14:00)
The link in KevinB's comment is borken—it's got some weird crap inserted into the final word of the URL. Edit said weird crap out of the URL and it works fine.

The URL has Mullings' Syndrome - it is excessively long and broke my browser.

Date: 2016/07/22 15:46:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Glen Davidson @ July 22 2016,14:45)
Dense:

 
Quote
How come all keyboards on the planet are best operated by an entity with ten digits?


From Sewell's obtuse thread

Uh, homology?

Not so hard if you're not a moron fighting against science.

Glen Davidson

Ms O'Leary is so far behind the news that she is unaware that there are companies set up specially to create keyboards for people who do not have the full complement of hands.

Maltron Single-Handed Keyboards

Date: 2016/08/16 14:16:58, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Aug. 16 2016,13:31)
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 16 2016,12:47)
   
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 16 2016,01:46)
Man, you people are just in some form of denial. After all, why should Cornelius and Joe bother posting any more after they have won and evolution has been defeated?

we need to email EN&V, etc, and ask them if they're celebrating the event. :D

looks as if some old men just finished celebrating a future that never happened and already lies behind them.

Strangely enough, the old IDthefuture.com address will just redirect to a DI sub-page referred to as idtf: no future and ID not even capitalized.

Ah. That's where all the caek went.

Date: 2016/08/18 10:13:14, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 18 2016,09:42)
Acartia: "Dionisio, I recommend a nice raspberry vinaigrette dressing with that salad. :)"

Or One Island.

At least, since the volcano, "Part of an Island Dressing". Made with 3 parts oil of ad hominem to 1 part sour grapes.

Date: 2016/08/18 18:05:42, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Aug. 18 2016,16:22)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 18 2016,13:05)
 
Quote (NoName @ Aug. 18 2016,12:44)
   
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 18 2016,13:10)
   
Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 18 2016,10:13)
     
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 18 2016,09:42)
Acartia: "Dionisio, I recommend a nice raspberry vinaigrette dressing with that salad. :)"

Or One Island.

At least, since the volcano, "Part of an Island Dressing". Made with 3 parts oil of ad hominem to 1 part sour grapes.

it goes well on a strawman salad as well.

I assume this is typically served flambé?

Is there any other way?

I love this board.

Yes. We have an excellent selection of cheese. UD is just totally crackers.

Date: 2016/08/22 12:34:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 21 2016,21:55)
The inner grammarian in me is having a fit of the vapours. The word phenomena currently appears 39 times on johnnyb's Questions for Proponents of Methodological Naturalism thread,  and only once is it used correctly (by Jack Krebs!).
UD link.

Of course, the UD crowd can't do plurals. They haven't yet realised that "Discovery Institute" is the plural of "equivocating obfuscator".

Date: 2016/08/23 10:13:26, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 23 2016,04:03)
Still can't figure out why his law office failed.

Maybe he realized that "no business" means "no business taxes".

Perhaps he thought that "taxes" is the plural of "taxi" and he tried to claim his "business taxes" as travel expenses against his client accounts.

Date: 2016/08/25 11:49:17, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 25 2016,11:01)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 25 2016,08:41)
Uppity announces his (at least temporary) departure from UD:
   
Quote
5
Upright BiPedAugust 24, 2016 at 9:35 pm

My beef with people like Robert has nothing to do with women’s sports, Denyse, and Title IX is little more than overreach and extortion. I don’t respond well around misogynists. And those who hide their contempt behind religious male privilege is not something I want to be associated with. After 9 years here, its time to take a break.

Take care.

UD link

What would Donald do?

Throw a tantrum?     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....6pfZpXU

Date: 2016/09/07 06:01:13, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Ptaylor @ Sep. 07 2016,03:24)
Bad news, climate scientists. Denyse O'Leary, Canadian journalist and intelligent design proponent has noticed something that:
a) none of you have ever considered, and
b) smashes your stupid conspiracy theory of 'global warming' to pieces
     
Quote
Where I live, the daytime temperature can be 30 degrees Celsius but the nighttime temperatures plunge to, say 16 degrees or even as low as 12 degrees Celsius in August. The a-crock-alypse just wouldn;t have time to get started.

The temperature changes between night and day. Checkmate!
UD link

Denyse has obviously forgotten to switch to the winter-weight duvet.

Date: 2016/09/13 11:58:52, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 12 2016,16:51)
 
Quote (clamboy @ Sep. 12 2016,12:19)
How many centiJoes in a miliBarry? And how many miliBarrys  in a microKF, or should that be the other way around? Meltdown measurements are so confusing!

It is part of the SI system of units, allowing traceability to the highest metroillogical level.

The base unit is the Barry. 1/1000 of a Barry is a milli-Barry, or a Mung in common parlance. A micro-Barry is a Joe. A nano-Barry is a Mapou.  A femto-Barry is a William. And a kilo-Barry is a Mullings.

I would have placed Barry as being the sort of person who'd want to build a wall to keep nasty foreign SI units out of the country.

Date: 2016/09/16 09:47:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 15 2016,06:41)
The most charitable interpretation of mung's efforts is that he is pointing out the loopholes in definitions.

You'd need as much charity as would buy the pastor of a mega-church a new private jet!

Mung's "pseudo-weasel" is not "pointing out the loopholes", it's trying to batter a hole in the castle wall with a siege engine.

The main loop (from line [17]) shows just how irrelevant Mung's program is. Rather than generating randomly mutated batches of strings, the program is merely iterating along the characters of the result string, running through a random stream of characters until a match occurs.

(In fact, a physical implementation of Mung's program in hardware exists, in the form of the IBM 1130 computer and its 1132 line printer. The printer would interrupt as each character on the print wheels came into position, and the processor would scan the print line and populate a bit map to cause the appropriate hammers to fire.)

Mung's program is not a Weasel (nor indeed any sort of mustelid.) I think it smells like a mephitid.

Date: 2016/09/17 15:19:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 17 2016,08:17)
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 16 2016,23:35)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Sep. 16 2016,08:47)
Mung's program is not a Weasel (nor indeed any sort of mustelid.) I think it smells like a mephitid.

A mephitid is a mustelid.

(i.e., weasels and skunks are part of the same family.)

Apparently the current view has them as separate families. The older I get, the more the taxonomists change everything I used to know.

I undertook rigorous research on the subject before posting.

(Actually, I checked on Wikipedia.)  :p

Date: 2016/09/20 10:02:36, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 20 2016,06:14)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 19 2016,22:13)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 20 2016,04:19)
Dissension in the ranks?
   
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bogartSeptember 19, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Rvb8: “I am not guilty of being patronising here, as Barry often is. I do genuinely hope that you can see the grandeur of life without recourse to human invention.”

Although I don’t agree with the hyperbole and rhetoric that rvb8 has displayed, he does have a valid point. Some of us, as Christians (and I have been guilty at times), tend to be patronizing, arrogant and pompous towards those who lack the faith. Before we speak we should take a couple steps back and make a decision: is our goal to ridicule and debase atheists, or to convince them that our worldview is better? So far, sadly, I have seen more of the former than the latter. Hopefully, this will change.


Damn. This is a theist who I would probably enyoy having a drink with. Maybe it is his/her name. Anybody who would chose to be named after my cat is gold in my books

How do you know your cat hasn't got a wordpress account?

Well, he is smart.

It would explain an awful lot about UD if we could demonstrate conclusively that "Kairosfocus" is actually GEM's pet mountain chicken.

Date: 2016/10/03 10:27:18, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 03 2016,00:06)
is there a Bulwer-Lytton contest for attempts at logic?

The Nimoy-Quinto contest?

Date: 2016/10/11 02:51:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 10 2016,15:51)
Fortunately, Gordo is no more an eligible U.S. voter than he is a scientist.

This assertion overstates his scientific credentials.

Date: 2016/10/11 11:44:48, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 11 2016,11:13)
Trailer for new film on biochemist Michael Behe: Revolutionary

lol

Or in jurisdictions where the original title is deemed to be promoting jihad, "The Spin Doctor".

Date: 2016/10/11 14:04:10, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 11 2016,12:17)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 11 2016,11:44)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 11 2016,11:13)
Trailer for new film on biochemist Michael Behe: Revolutionary

lol

Or in jurisdictions where the original title is deemed to be promoting jihad, "The Spin Doctor".

He's Shane Warne?

Only if he's at silly mid off.

Date: 2016/10/12 12:52:32, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 12 2016,10:25)
I'm sure Dave is supporting Trump today and confidently expects a massive Trump victory, Republicans increasing their majorities in both houses of congress and the reappearance of Judge Scalia, whose so-called "death" was just a story spread by the rigged liberal media.

P.S. Was he talking to the P.Z.?

He thought he was, but unless you can find a disemvowelled version in Comic Sans font, there is no evidence that he got through.

Date: 2016/10/18 11:51:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 17 2016,19:09)
Something to ponder on a Monday evening.

That should be Denyse O'Leary, not O'Reilly!

O'Reilly are the people who publish the computer books with the animals on the front cover.

Would the O'Reilly book on "Intelligent Design" have a priapulid worm on the cover?

It would be most appropriate, since "[S]ome species show a remarkable tolerance for hydrogen sulfide and anoxia."

Date: 2016/10/18 12:36:49, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 18 2016,12:04)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 18 2016,11:51)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 17 2016,19:09)
Something to ponder on a Monday evening.

That should be Denyse O'Leary, not O'Reilly!

O'Reilly are the people who publish the computer books with the animals on the front cover.

Would the O'Reilly book on "Intelligent Design" have a priapulid worm on the cover?

It would be most appropriate, since "[S]ome species show a remarkable tolerance for hydrogen sulfide and anoxia."

I guess that shows you how many of her postings I read. I also spelled Mullings' name wrong.

The Colonel's lady and Denyse O'Leary are sisters under the skin.

Date: 2016/10/21 12:00:47, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Oct. 21 2016,07:06)
 
Quote (timothya @ Oct. 21 2016,07:04)
 
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 21 2016,04:17)
I predict        
Quote
"but they are still frogs".
Still, I would appreciate if someone would ask for calculations of the FIASC/O values of the two ancestral genomes, as well as the tetraploid X. laevis and the diploid X. tropicalis genomes

You already know the answer. It is oil-soaked, red-herringed and leading off to a pitchfork and torch parade over a cliff somewhere.
Meanwhile, on a blasted Caribbean rock, a prophet shakes his hoary locks and howls at the moon.

A howl that is largely drowned out by the whimper of whipped frogs.

If, in Classical times, there had been a Starbucks in Athens, would Aristophanes have had whipped frog on his Greek coffee?

PS When we get to "Uncommonly Dense Thread 6", could we have a reference to "Croaking Chorus" in the subtitle, please?

Date: 2016/10/24 10:34:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 24 2016,10:29)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 24 2016,18:07)
 
Quote (sparc @ Oct. 24 2016,02:11)
Deepest sock ever?
     
Quote
12 Truth Will Set You FreeOctober 20, 2016 at 8:15 am

REW @ 8: Good point. Casey Luskin is a true champion in the ID movement.
     
Quote
15 Truth Will Set You FreeOctober 20, 2016 at 8:44 am

bornagain77 @ 14: Well done!
     
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27 Truth Will Set You FreeOctober 21, 2016 at 5:47 am

[...] You continue to do great work, bornagain77. [...]
     
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29 Truth Will Set You FreeOctober 21, 2016 at 9:16 am

Kairosficus @ 28: Good work, [...]

Well, unless kf is actually k.e.

You rotten swine!

I would imagine that if you really were "kairosficus" you wouldn't give a fig!

Date: 2016/11/03 14:30:57, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 02 2016,21:46)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 03 2016,00:08)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 02 2016,11:54)
Mullings is starting a new series of OPs to rank right up there with his FYI/FTR (unless they are just the revival of an old classic). The new ones are prefaced with BTB, for Back to Basics.

If I had author privileges over there, I would start a series of OPs to counter his. The titles would all start with "WTF...".

I'd go with SSDD: Same Shit Different Day.  It's all FIASCO re-runs.

Wot no more invasion maps?

The frogs ate them.

Date: 2016/11/04 09:47:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 04 2016,09:10)
Red herring? And I thought that most of the time they just flounder.

No, the flounder is just a red herring.

The oil of ad hominem is used to dilute the argument down below Dembski's limit (much like homeopathy.)

Date: 2016/11/05 17:22:25, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 05 2016,13:58)
Mullings in one of his WTF OPs defending his pet FIASCO concept:

I hope his pet FIASCO doesn't eat frogs, otherwise he'll get himself in hot water with the Montserrat wildlife protection people.

Date: 2016/11/06 13:54:29, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 05 2016,23:49)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 05 2016,20:14)
Do I get three POTWs if I mention that the OP includes a blown up image of a fishing reel?

I like the links because back in the day when they'd have two dozen people commenting on half a dozen threads that they were letting run 500, 800 comments, it was a nightmare to follow everything happening there and here. Now that Uncommon Descent seems to be almost deserted, it's not so important, but it's still nice.

Running the obvious search on YouTube brought up this....

       Attack of the Tumbleweed

Since another video that was turned up was "Tumbleweed Invasion", we might have an explanation for KF's maps.

Date: 2016/11/08 07:03:55, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (NoName @ Nov. 08 2016,06:30)
And it's borked again.  'Server unexpectedly dropped connection'.

Perhaps it's a poltergeist.

Can we assume that it's the Ghost of ID and announce that we have positive "proof" that ID has died?

Date: 2016/11/08 11:29:24, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 08 2016,10:44)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 08 2016,06:03)
Perhaps it's a poltergeist.

Who ya gonna call?

Goat Butters?  No - they're for when you have a plague of trolls.

Date: 2016/11/15 05:48:37, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 14 2016,20:42)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 14 2016,20:39)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 14 2016,19:32)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 14 2016,20:22)
Maybe they spent the time exchanging recipes for fruitcake?

Cannibals!

Like the punchline in the story "To Serve Man"?

Of Pandas and People is a cookbook!

Following on from the PT post "Creationist classification of theropods", i'm wondering whether the "Theropod classification of creationists" would be "Tasty"....

Date: 2016/11/15 10:20:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (fusilier @ Nov. 15 2016,06:27)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 15 2016,06:48)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 14 2016,20:42)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 14 2016,20:39)
     
Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 14 2016,19:32)
       
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 14 2016,20:22)
Maybe they spent the time exchanging recipes for fruitcake?

Cannibals!

Like the punchline in the story "To Serve Man"?

Of Pandas and People is a cookbook!

Following on from the PT post "Creationist classification of theropods", i'm wondering whether the "Theropod classification of creationists" would be "Tasty"....

Exactly how much Pepto-Bismol would a T. rex need afterwards?

Is there any fossil evidence of Senna spp. in the Creataceous?

Date: 2016/11/17 09:32:40, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,08:46)
 
Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Nov. 17 2016,15:39)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 16 2016,13:32)
   
Quote
See also: Nature: Scientists “stunned” by Trump win Why? Doesn’t that speak poorly of the powers of the scientific method?

O'Dreary, of course.  Link

You never see this on UD:          
Quote
Millions of children die despite prayers and supplication to all-powerful God.  Why?  Doesn't this speak poorly for the religious method?

Good catch. I was wondering how the IDeists feel about Trump`s victory. Wasn`t prepared for so much brainhurt.

Also, Hello again from a long time lurker from Finland.

Oooh Finland. Did enquiries about moving to Finland go up?


Finland , Finland , Finland
The country where I want to be
Pony trekking or camping or just watch T.V.
Finland , Finland , Finland
It's the country for me

You're so near to Russia
so far away from Japan
Quite a long way from Cairo
lots of miles from Vietnam

Finland , Finland , Finland
The country where I want to be
Eating breakfast or dinner
or snack lunch in the hall
Finland , Finland , Finland
Finland has it all

You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored
A poor second to Belgium
When going abroad

Finland , Finland , Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland , Finland , Finland
Finland has it all

Finland , Finland , Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your moantians so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland , Finland , Finland
Finland has it all

Finland has it all
Finland, Finland, Finland
The country I quite want to be.......

Try as I might, I can't get the words to fit to Schubert's 8th Symphony.

Date: 2016/11/24 07:43:24, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 24 2016,06:30)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 23 2016,22:32)
Fordgreen
   
Quote
KF – Thank you for taking the time to reply so extensively. I have a lot to think about (and read), and hopefully in time the penny will drop!


This guy is wonderful. Mullings is too full of himself to notice that the compliment is actually an insult.

Linkypoo

ID can't detect irony.

Are you insinuating that KF does not have a magnetic personality?

Date: 2016/11/29 06:05:42, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 28 2016,13:04)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 27 2016,22:53)
Vjtorley will believe anything.      
Quote
Myths about the Miracle of Calanda Debunked

Often atheists ask Christians why God doesn't heel amputees. ...

He recommends this story here.

I misread that as the Miracle of Canada, and thought maybe Denyse had written something coherent and interesting.  I should have known better.

No. Her reputation is unSullied.

Date: 2016/12/09 10:29:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 09 2016,04:04)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 09 2016,07:09)
Bornagain77:      
Quote

And yet when the Agent causality, i.e. God, of Theists is rightly let ‘back’ into the picture of physics, as the Christian founders of modern science originally envisioned, (Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, and Planck among others), then an empirically backed unification between Quantum Theory and General Relativity is readily achieved by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from death:


If only Einstein had known this.

Link

Unlikely but it does bring up the fundamental question, which is, "Was Jesus a wave or a particle?".

That is probably the question behind that business of Dembski and the "Logos passage" from John 1.

Could someone perhaps ask BA77 whether his unification claim is based on the "Lamb of God Shift"?

Date: 2016/12/14 12:39:47, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 14 2016,10:47)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 13 2016,19:49)
 
Quote
It seems to me that a universe in which the unusual only happens in very rare instances is a little odd especially given the inherent weirdness of Quantum Mechanics.

-FifthMonarchyMan


Wow. That is just stunning.

ETA: linky

If only god would show me a sign.  Like having FMM make an argument which isn't fucking stupid.

Date: 2017/01/17 09:51:57, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (sparc @ Jan. 17 2017,08:20)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 16 2017,21:40)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 16 2017,15:06)
Have I ever mentioned that I think that Mullings is a pompous, arrogant, patronizing, sermonizing bag of mammalian excrement?

I think you may have mentioned that several times.

:D

However, you didn't really emphasize that he is absurdly self referentially incoherent.

Presumably, the d'Q stuff was merely derivative.

Date: 2017/01/20 10:32:59, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 19 2017,20:21)
Testing

Unlike UD, where they do a lot of detesting.

Disclaimer: None of our products have been tested on animals, or UD commentors.

Date: 2017/02/23 08:33:25, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 22 2017,20:26)
I wonder if "propaganda" is short for "propagate agenda"?

No, it'a an assertion that something is a genuine anatid, and not merely a canard.

Date: 2017/03/06 11:37:41, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 06 2017,09:19)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 06 2017,01:59)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 05 2017,09:14)
<snip>
Look who has made a pronouncement on how we should pronounce his acronym FSCO/I:
     
Quote
As it seems necessary to set a pronunciation, the acronym FSCO/I shall henceforth be pronounced “fish-koi” (where happily, koi are produced by artificial selection, a form of ID too often misused as a proxy for the alleged powers of culling out by differential reproductive success in the wild)

Any bets on whether he gets pissed off if we actually start calling it FISH KOI?

Eventually he'll tell you to stop carping on about it.

And accuse you of poissoning the well.

If he actually knew how to use a fishing reel, he could catch enough fish to set himself up as a poisson distributor.

Date: 2017/03/07 07:18:35, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 07 2017,03:57)
Quote (Woodbine @ Mar. 06 2017,22:07)
Mapoo is creating a golem....

http://rebelscience.blogspot.co.uk/2017.......ch.html

   
Quote
My ultimate goal (or dream) is to build a truly intelligent bipedal robot that can do all your chores around the house such as cleaning, preparing food, babysitting the kids, doing the laundry, gardening, etc. A tall order, I know.


Is it too pointed to suggest that the loss of his wife left a somewhat menial hole in his life?

What? Do you actually know that Gordon's wife died?

I would have thought that being married to KF is a fate worse than being turned into a pillar of salt.

Date: 2017/03/09 09:27:09, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Glen Davidson @ Mar. 08 2017,14:44)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 07 2017,22:31)
Damn, this just keeps getting better.

From the paranoid mind of Gordon (KairosFocus) Mullings:
 
Quote
BTW, on a recent incident where W-App initiated a video call against my will, I have taped over the cams. I have reason to be concerned Facebook may be listening in on conversations, and more.


Tune in tomorrow. Same Batshitcrazy time. Same Batshitcrazy channel.

It's important that nothing gets onto the internet that would suggest that Gordon is insane.

Like, well, that.

Glen Davidson

It's not as bad as if he were putting tinfoil hats on the cameras.

Date: 2017/03/16 13:48:12, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 15 2017,18:09)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 15 2017,16:58)
Denyse fucks up "normal":

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-normal

Is Denyse "normal"?

The answer is a resounding No!  But she is fucked up.

No, merely irrational.

Date: 2017/03/27 12:47:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 27 2017,10:12)
Oooooo Granville's back

       
Quote
2
Granville Sewell March 26, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Joseph LeConte, in his book “Evolution” acknowledges that
evolution is an “axiom,” ie, is unfalsifiable:


www.evolutionnews.org/2014/03/evolution_is_an/




FWIW, LeConte died in 1901.




[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/design-disquisitions-quote-of-the-month-cornelius-hunter-on-the-unfalsifiability-of-evolut




ion/#comment-627772]linky[/URL]

Didn't we have some references to "Zombie Science" recently?

Though "Granville's back" is somewhat more of a suggestion that we didn't use a sufficiently sharp stake.

Date: 2017/03/31 16:46:54, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 31 2017,16:09)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 31 2017,11:31)
 
Quote
1
ppolish March 31, 2017 at 9:14 am
Early humans were roaming the planet long before apes and monkeys. Fossil evidence tells us so.

Tipsy monkeys can be explained by the “drunken human” hypothesis. Monkey see, monkey do. Burp.

   
Quote
2
News March 31, 2017 at 10:11 am
ppolish at 1, many authorities teach that man’s sin has corrupted the whole planet. It would be no surprise if what you say is true.  😉

what a buncha idiots

ppolish a couple comments later:

 
Quote
jdk, the drunken monkey hypothesis is based on observation of modern monkeys and apes. Not based on old world monkeys. Early humans predate drunken monkeys.


Got that?  Modern monkeys not old world monkeys.  Monkeys were teetotal in the old world.

He's following the Literal Bible timeline. There couldn't have been drunk monkeys until Noah invented getting totally rat-assed.

Date: 2017/04/21 09:18:21, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (fnxtr @ April 21 2017,08:49)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 21 2017,06:05)
 
Quote (Patrick @ April 20 2017,22:17)
   
Quote (stevestory @ April 20 2017,10:33)
   
Quote
8
Armand JacksApril 19, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Ronvanwagon:
     
Quote

Armand Jacks may be onto something: that the world as it is might indicate that there is no IS grounding OUGHT. Frankly, Armand, I don’t care what you “think”. When I meet you I’m going to shoot you in the face.

It’s nice to see that you people are willing to have an honest discussion without resorting to mindless hyperbole.

Damn, I've been off the UD sauce for years now but I'm tempted to see if I can derail that thread with a discussion of the best hand gun for shooting someone in the face.

If you derail an already derailed thread, does that put it back on the rails?

?
UD has rails?

Possibly not.

The loons are in Gaviidae, not Rallidae.

Date: 2017/05/05 15:09:23, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ May 05 2017,12:08)
silly cone...

No, you've perpetrated the usual confusion between the element and the class of compounds.

"silly cone" descibes how you feel when you wake up with a hangover and find that your friends have been tweeting photos of you partying while wearing nothing but a plastic traffic bollard.

Intelligent Design is undoubtedly an allotrope of elemental "silly con".

Date: 2017/06/07 12:07:15, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 06 2017,20:13)
If we're so privileged, how come our sun doesn't have either refueling or waste removal mechanisms?  :p

The municipality has filed for bankruptcy.

Date: 2017/06/19 08:54:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 18 2017,16:01)
Does farce = ma?

Only if it's an MA issued by a degree mill.

Date: 2017/06/20 09:15:50, Link
Author: KevinB
I see over at "The Other Place" that they are asking

          Where is the multiverse hiding?

Surely the obvious answer is

          In one of KF's posts.

Date: 2017/06/27 07:46:16, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ June 26 2017,09:42)
Double doc? Wouldn't that be a paradox?

They'd only be allowed at UD if they were heterodox.

Date: 2017/06/28 08:53:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 28 2017,06:48)
Just in case you're thinking that UD has all the stupid ...        
Quote
Charles Darwin accurately characterized his 1859 book on evolution as “one long argument.” That argument was based on several popular religious beliefs leading to faulty science. For example, throughout the volume Darwin’s ideas rely on a popular religious doctrine called utilitarianism, and in Chapter Six Darwin explicitly states that his theory would absolutely fail without it.

Cornelius, of course.

Ring species

Date: 2017/07/10 13:13:02, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ July 10 2017,13:01)
So pretty close to equidistant from three of the lakes? So you can get weather from any of those three?

No, it was that dratted butterfly flapping its wings again.

Date: 2017/07/10 15:00:03, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 10 2017,13:42)
 
Quote (KevinB @ July 10 2017,13:13)
 
Quote (Henry J @ July 10 2017,13:01)
So pretty close to equidistant from three of the lakes? So you can get weather from any of those three?

No, it was that dratted butterfly flapping its wings again.

I thought it was The Gays.

No, that's what caused the eruption on Montserrat.

Date: 2017/08/07 09:16:11, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 07 2017,07:52)
Gordon's personal blog is even worse than UD, if you can believe it. Lance Wallnau &c.

It's UD without the leaven of Denyse.

(I was trying to construct a "yeast infection" reference, but I came to the conclusion that there was a risk of it being misconstrued as a misogynistic dig.)

Date: 2017/08/15 10:42:00, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 15 2017,09:36)
 
Quote
A swift, handy guide to the normal glut of fake news

August 15, 2017 Posted by News under Culture, Intelligent Design, Media, Science
2 Comments

From Denyse O’Leary (O’Leary for News) at MercatorNet: When I use the term fake news, I do not mean deliberate sabotage of news sites by, for example, Russia’s troll house. Or opposition research marketed as news. Or false information that merits retraction and results in dismissals as at CNN recently. Nor material that is outed […]


fake news!

Are you suggesting that the UD regulars are being replaced one-by-one by fake alien replicants?

Date: 2017/09/06 07:19:32, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 05 2017,15:15)
Maybe they're trying to overcome resistance?

That would be futile.

Date: 2017/09/07 11:10:46, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 07 2017,07:08)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 06 2017,21:27)
 
Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 06 2017,13:04)
   
Quote (sparc @ Sep. 06 2017,01:54)
   
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 05 2017,10:45)
Mullings is definitely over his grieving period.
and De Ole Dawg is back as well. The time is nigh.

No updates to The Montserrat Reporter today.  Looks like UD will have to do without KF until they get the power back.

From Barry:
   
Quote
As many of our readers know, one of our most valued and prolific contributors lives on Montserrat.

Maybe he could put in a word with the big cheese upstairs for a special dispensation for Gordo so he can have an interwebs connection  so he can give us the csi of Irma.

Unless the hurricane itself was a broad hint from Divine sources against commenting.

Date: 2017/09/14 07:35:58, Link
Author: KevinB
I see that UD is promoting a "documentary" about Behe's "research", under the title "Michael Behe, Revolutionary, documentary now free online".

Is this "free" as in "Buy a box of mousetraps, get a free documentary"?

Date: 2017/09/14 17:24:38, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 14 2017,16:06)
 
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 14 2017,10:39)
Free, as in "left on the front boulevard in the rain, in the hopes that someone will steal it".

Someone left Behe out in the rain...

You can't put a roof on an irreducibly-complex house, because you'd need to use a ladder, or scaffolding.

Date: 2017/09/15 10:13:52, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 14 2017,21:52)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 15 2017,04:04)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Sep. 14 2017,16:24)
   
Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 14 2017,16:06)
       
Quote (fnxtr @ Sep. 14 2017,10:39)
Free, as in "left on the front boulevard in the rain, in the hopes that someone will steal it".

Someone left Behe out in the rain...

You can't put a roof on an irreducibly-complex house, because you'd need to use a ladder, or scaffolding.

Or, intelligent architecture.

and angels with hammers and saws, fairy lumber suppliers, magic cement and an old guy with a beard.

You can get old guys with beards in any methodology.

I note that the Bible makes no mention of qualifications, membership of professional bodies or indemnity insurance.

Date: 2017/09/19 07:01:04, Link
Author: KevinB
Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 19 2017,02:05)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 18 2017,17:20)
Speaking of that small island, I find it noteworthy that KF uses the time before a big ass hurricane hits him to worry about how others get off.  Good allocation of time there.

That's kind of him, don't you think, to be concerned about the evacuation of the island?

I think you may have misunderstood the nature of the evacuation.

 

 

 

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