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Date: 2017/06/05 04:13:55, Link
Author: Dredge
I am a practising Catholic and I can assure you that there are many deluded imposters in the Catholic Church.  Father Coyne sounds like one of them.  He is a Jesuit - that says it all, really ... The Jesuits are the most intellectually-corrupt order in the Church.  (Pope Francis is a Jesuit, sad to say.)

Date: 2017/06/08 03:12:24, Link
Author: Dredge
Quote (fusilier @ June 05 2017,09:55)
Quote (Dredge @ June 05 2017,05:13)
I am a practising Catholic and I can assure you that there are many deluded imposters in the Catholic Church.  Father Coyne sounds like one of them.  He is a Jesuit - that says it all, really ... The Jesuits are the most intellectually-corrupt order in the Church.  (Pope Francis is a Jesuit, sad to say.)

So, His Holiness Pius XII, His Holiness St. John Paul II, His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, and His Holiness Francis are all deluded impostors.

Glad to Know That.[/quote]

Quote (Dredge @ June 05 2017,05:13)
I am a practising Catholic and I can assure you that there are many deluded imposters in the Catholic Church.  Father Coyne sounds like one of them.  He is a Jesuit - that says it all, really ... The Jesuits are the most intellectually-corrupt order in the Church.  (Pope Francis is a Jesuit, sad to say.)

So, His Holiness Pius XII, His Holiness St. John Paul II, His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, and His Holiness Francis are all deluded impostors.

Glad to Know That.[/quote]
Huh?  Please point out where I said His Holiness Pius XII, His Holiness St. John Paul II, His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, and His Holiness Francis are all deluded imposters.

Date: 2017/06/09 03:59:35, Link
Author: Dredge
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I am a practising Catholic and I can assure you that there are many deluded imposters in the Catholic Church.  Father Coyne sounds like one of them.  He is a Jesuit - that says it all, really ... The Jesuits are the most intellectually-corrupt order in the Church.  (Pope Francis is a Jesuit, sad to say.)

So, His Holiness Pius XII, His Holiness St. John Paul II, His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, and His Holiness Francis are all deluded impostors.

Glad to Know That.

Huh?  Please point out where I said His Holiness Pius XII, His Holiness St. John Paul II, His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, and His Holiness Francis are all deluded imposters.

At a guess, I suspect fusilier believes that the grounds on which you declared that "Father Coyne sounds like (a deluded impostor)" are equally applicable to the popes fusilier named. Perhaps you could explicitly state the grounds on which you declared that "Father Coyne sounds like (a deluded impostor)"?

The post by Zardoz is spot-on.  Coyne's esoteric b.s. is very reminisent of fellow Jesuit nutter, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.  Pope Francis is a Jesuit - God help us!

Date: 2017/06/09 04:24:17, Link
Author: Dredge
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His Holiness Pius XII, in an encyclical, stated that there were no theological objections to the evolution of the human body, so long as no one proposed that the human soul was anything other than directly created.

His Holiness St. John Paul II, in an address to the Pontifical Academy of Science affirmed his predecessor's statement, and expanded it to point out that multiple, consilient, lines of scientific evidence for evolution had been discovered in the intervening 4 decades.

His Holiness Emeritus Benedict XVI, approved, when he was still Josef Cardinal Ratzinger and head of the Congregation for Doctrinal Fidelity, that:

Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution... Divine causality and created causality radically differ in kind and not only in degree. Thus, even the outcome of a truly contingent natural process can nonetheless fall within God‚Äôs providential plan for creation. According to St. Thomas Aquinas: ‚ÄúThe effect of divine providence is not only that things should happen somehow, but that they should happen either by necessity or by contingency. Therefore, whatsoever divine providence ordains to happen infallibly and of necessity happens infallibly and of necessity; and that happens from contingency, which the divine providence conceives to happen from contingency‚ÄĚ (Summa theologiae, I, 22,4 ad 1).


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You called Fr. Coyne a deluded imposter for telling the truth about God's direct handiwork, recorded in the stars, the rocks and the genomes.  Then you stated that the Society of Jesus is intellectually corrupt, and included His Holiness Francis in that blanket assertion.

So what else am I to conclude?

How naive are you?!  Unfortunately, Popes aren't infallible when it comes to science.  This is perfectly obvious by their acceptance of the opinion of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which obediently parrots the Darwinist consensus of the secular world.

The problem with this pro-evolution stance is, one has to twist and mangle (read: effectively ignore) Scripture in order to squeeze it into the Bible.  Theistic evolution is rubbish.

The fact that the Catholic Church endorses the greatest hoax in history is a measure of how corrupt she has become ... worse still, the hoax is demonically-inspired.

Date: 2017/06/09 04:38:27, Link
Author: Dredge
In the encyclical, Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII stated that Catholics are "by no means" free to accept polygenism. Yet many Catholics today embrace polygenism - including Bishops and Cardinals.  Satan has thoroughly deceived them.

Date: 2017/06/11 03:45:38, Link
Author: Dredge
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In the encyclical, Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII stated that Catholics are "by no means" free to accept polygenism. Yet many Catholics today embrace polygenism - including Bishops and Cardinals.  Satan has thoroughly deceived them.

Anyone minimally competent in history and politics and biology and the Church would know that the last professionally respectably anti-evolutionist, Louis Agassiz, endorsed polygenism.  Darwin, Wallace, Huxley, Asa Gray, and so forth, explicitly accepted descent from a common ancestor - aka "monogenism."

From these last two posts, it would appear that you just might argue for sede vacante.  Are you a member of the Pius X Society?

Sounds like you are a deceived victim of Scientism, which is a powerful force in the modern world.

Have you ever heard of "the great apostasy" (cf 2Thess 2:3).  Imo, the theory of evolution qualifies as one of the "lying wonders" mentioned in verse 9.

Date: 2017/06/11 03:49:41, Link
Author: Dredge
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"The post by Zardoz"? What "post by Zardoz"? The post you quoted-and-replied-to was written by someone quite the else.

The Zardoz post is the third post in this thread.

Date: 2017/06/11 03:54:04, Link
Author: Dredge
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"The post by Zardoz"? What "post by Zardoz"? The post you quoted-and-replied-to was written by someone quite the else.

The "post by Zardoz" is the third post in this thread.

(Sorry about this double post - just trying to get this quote system sorted.)

Date: 2017/06/11 04:02:54, Link
Author: Dredge
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In the encyclical, Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII stated that Catholics are "by no means" free to accept polygenism. Yet many Catholics today embrace polygenism - including Bishops and Cardinals.  Satan has thoroughly deceived them.

Theological monogenism is not incompatible with biological polygenism.  Biological polygenism asserts the existence of many primates with human DNA who are all ancestors to modern humans.  Theological monogenism asserts that at one time two, and only two, of those primates with human DNA had divinely created human souls.

You are creating an issue where there does not need to be one.  An unsouled primate may be biologically a member of Homo sapiens, but is not theologically human.

"An unsouled primate may be biologically a member of Homo sapiens, but is not theologically human."

This is a good example of the demented Bible-babble that theistic evolutionists come up with to squeeze a "doctrine of demons" into the Bible.  Truly bizarre stuff.

 

 

 

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