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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 23:52
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 20 2014,15:19)At the Kurzweil link you provided, we see that CNOT wants to get in on some grant money being floated by the Paul Allen Foundation for AI research.  He wants sponsorship from an academic institution, but he doesn't want to collaborate with anyone:
  Quote The budget is supposed to be 3 pages long, which seems excessive for the kind of research I had envisioned (one guy working alone on his laptop, maybe from home).

The way the real world of people and business work nowadays (i.e., with extreme ineptitude, inefficiency, unethical behavior, and illegal behavior), I am leery of any kind of collaborative work anymore. *Always* there are glitches, usually major, show-stopper glitches, usually in such profusion that it becomes ridiculous. I'm going to start counting and documenting these glitches here as they occur, partly out of sordid humor, and partly for those who don't believe how messed up bureaucracy and people are now. I fully predict that there is going to be some huge, ridiculous glitch that either threatens or negates all my efforts on this.
They said "excessive for the kind of research I had envisioned (one guy working alone on his laptop, maybe from home)."

From what I read in several threads: They are currently trying to organize group development of a new spatial reasoning model for AI, would rather not have to get overly into neurological details as in the Grid Network topic, and are most enjoying seeing what happens where they try to fund something like that.

At least they're trying to get something funded, while at the same getting the word out that we're around.
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The Bathroom Wall

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 22:00
Post by Amadan
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 20 2014,20:23)Fred Phelps is gone. Did he find redemption?
"Gays? Are you f*cking stupid, Fred? I said I hate cigarettes - y'know, fags. Bloody awful things.

Now piss off down to Lucifer. He's got some rrreeeeeeeally special plans for the next eternity. Let's just say that all those years on your knees in church might turn out to be useful practice. B-byeee!"
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 20:19
Post by Jim_Wynne
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 20 2014,14:22)   Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 20 2014,08:58)If cognitive science were appropriate for public school curricula your real-science still wouldn't get its smelly little foot in the door.

What ends up with "its smelly little foot in the door" is what really works like the real-thing (as opposed to what really does not) that students bring to class for a science project.

    Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 20 2014,08:58)You keep avoiding the question:  There are researchers getting funding for work in cognitive science, and in general they produce useful results-

Only around 1% of what is published is actually "useful" to me. Much of it is just good use of media for another neural network model that's much like all the rest. I still enjoy reading some of the student papers on models they build, but unless you know what all models are missing it can seem like progress is being made even though it would only either get fried by an invisible moving shock zone or stay in the center where it's always safe (but no treats).

    Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 20 2014,08:58)-results that you continually cite as significant to your "work."  If your own little bag of turds is as significant as you think it is,  why no support?  Why hasn't a researcher who can get funding taken it up and pursued it?  Where are your supporters?

What are you calling "supporters"? Funding sources throwing money to non-corporate entities? Academic representatives who only speak for the anti-ID movement all blogging about why the new intelligence model is of interest from an AI perspective? Or are you talking about this sort of networking where I mentioned PSC as a possible partner in an online project to further advance the state of the art in spacial navigation models?

http://www.kurzweilai.net/forums.....-622290

In my situation the problem is most with ones claiming to be heroic academic protectors of science who are still purposely helping to destroy it by making it seem like all that is happening is best brushed-off and ignored.
You seem to have found a few more delusional code monkeys to share your castle in the sky.  At the Kurzweil link you provided, we see that CNOT wants to get in on some grant money being floated by the Paul Allen Foundation for AI research.  He wants sponsorship from an academic institution, but he doesn't want to collaborate with anyone:
Quote The budget is supposed to be 3 pages long, which seems excessive for the kind of research I had envisioned (one guy working alone on his laptop, maybe from home).

The way the real world of people and business work nowadays (i.e., with extreme ineptitude, inefficiency, unethical behavior, and illegal behavior), I am leery of any kind of collaborative work anymore. *Always* there are glitches, usually major, show-stopper glitches, usually in such profusion that it becomes ridiculous. I'm going to start counting and documenting these glitches here as they occur, partly out of sordid humor, and partly for those who don't believe how messed up bureaucracy and people are now. I fully predict that there is going to be some huge, ridiculous glitch that either threatens or negates all my efforts on this.

He's already lining up his excuses for his inevitable failure.  

You fit right in.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 20:08
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (damitall @ Mar. 20 2014,14:35)I see you've found a fellow fantasist/whinger at kurzweilai.net in CNOT.
You sure read a lot into a forum that's popular for its AI related news and discussions, provided by (from what I read) the head of Google home-robot engineering. Their way of thinking big (as opposed to thinking small) does not bother me.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 19:50
Post by NoName
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 20 2014,15:22)...
In my situation the problem is most with ones claiming to be heroic academic protectors of science who are still purposely helping to destroy it by making it seem like all that is happening is best brushed-off and ignored.
No one here, at least, is claiming to be "heroic academic protectors of science".  That would be bombastic and more in your style.  At the least, no one rightfully claims heroism for themselves.
The real tragedy isn't even that you are required to elevate your enemies to make your insignificance less apparent -- after all, it's important people who are keeping me down/suppressing my work.
No, the real tragedy is that no one needs to direct others to brush aside your "theory" and/or ignore it.  Everyone sees quite clearly on first exposure that that is the only possible response.  The response is only reinforced when your career of distraction, deflection and avoidance when questioned about said "theory" are noticed, as they will be by anyone who follows up for LULz of seeing if you could possibly be serious.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 19:35
Post by damitall
I see you've found a fellow fantasist/whinger at kurzweilai.net in CNOT.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 19:34
Post by Richardthughes
Quote Or are you talking about this sort of networking where I mentioned PSC as a possible partner in an online project to further advance the state of the art in spacial navigation models?

So fucking delusional.
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Young Cosmos

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 19:28
Post by Richardthughes
.. and creation evolution university is already dying.
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The Bathroom Wall

AE Public Forum - Thu, 2014-03-20 19:23
Post by Schroedinger's Dog
Fred Phelps is gone. Did he find redemption?
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Reaction to Wyoming's blocking the NGSS

The Casper Star-Tribune (March 20, 2014) editorially decried the state legislature's decision to block the adoption of the Next Generation Science Standards as "misguided and irresponsible."

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Missouri antievolution bill advances

Missouri's House Bill 1472, which would require school districts to allow parents to have their children excused from learning about evolution, was passed by the House Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education on March 12, 2014, after having a public hearing on February 13, 2014. The bill is not yet on the House calendar.

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The Problem With Peer-Review

ID the Future - Tue, 2014-03-18 20:35
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, host David Boze interviews Casey Luskin about the importance of peer-review within the scientific community. The 50th pro-intelligent design paper was recently published, despite the frequent claim by critics that...
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Can Butterflies Be Intellectual Snobs?

Jerry Coyne asks an amusing question: "Are atheists intellectual snobs?" Michael Egnor
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Ghost of Lamarck: Working Epigenetics into Evolutionary Theory

How will Darwinists incorporate epigenetics into their theory? Preliminary indications do not look encouraging for them. Evolution News & Views
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Now We Know: How the National Center for Science Education Detects "Science Denial" and "Evolution Denial"

This would all be comical were it not for the fact that some legislators take the NCSE seriously when Branch and his colleagues show up for a fight. Donald McLaughlin http://www.discovery.org/p/611
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Evolution Is an Axiom; It Doesn't Need Supporting Evidence

The very first book I read on Darwinian evolution was an 1888 work, Evolution, by Joseph LeConte, professor of geology and natural history at the University of California. Granville Sewell
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Cosmos Episode 2: "Mindless Evolution" Has All the Answers -- If You Don't Think About It Too Deeply

Even when you try to disregard the evidence for design in nature, it nevertheless speaks for itself. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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False Spin: Ball State University Misrepresents Anti-Religious Chapters in What Is Your Dangerous Idea? as Religion-Friendly

When a state university permits religion-bashing in the name of science while censoring other views, that government institution has strayed into constitutionally treacherous waters. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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The Second Episode of Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson: Quick Reaction

"For biologists, this Cosmos episode tonight was a big fat, lumbering Christmas turkey." David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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As an Antidote to Cosmos Tonight, Watch Stephen Meyer: The Universe Had a Beginning

It's a richly suggestive fact: the universe is finite and began in the very distant yet finite past. What exactly does that tell you? Evolution News & Views
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