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The Mismeasure of Man: Why Popular Ideas about Human-Chimp Comparisons Are Misleading or Wrong

You have probably heard that our DNA, the stuff that makes us human, is only 1% different from chimps. Ann Gauger http://www.biologicinstitute.org/people
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Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson: Same Old Product, Bright New Packaging

With an introduction and approbation from President Obama, no less, the new Cosmos updates Carl Sagan's famous franchise. Here's the result. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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Here's the Cure for Cosmos

You may wish to have access to the antidote handy before grappling with the ailment itself. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 15:25
Post by fnxtr
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 12 2014,07:25)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 12 2014,16:34)   Quote (sparc @ Mar. 11 2014,23:46)       Quote (REC @ Mar. 11 2014,10:29)I think Sal is following O'Leary's tactics, and launching multiple YEC blogs this month:

Liars For Darwin

is running.
If he wants to make a living out of his creationist idiocy Sal should go for a theology degree and then open his own little church rather than running this obscure online "university" which is so obviously pseudoscienctific and especially so anti-academic that it will not attract even the dumbest IDiots. Like Dembski he may not be a good enough speaker, though.
It worked for L. Ron Hubbard.  

And he didn't even get the theology degree.
Hubbard? Of course he only used the tools of theology sycophancy and greed the rest were sheep & collateral damage.
Whereas ID, on the other hand... um...
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 14:25
Post by k.e..
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 12 2014,16:34) Quote (sparc @ Mar. 11 2014,23:46)   Quote (REC @ Mar. 11 2014,10:29)I think Sal is following O'Leary's tactics, and launching multiple YEC blogs this month:

Liars For Darwin

is running.
If he wants to make a living out of his creationist idiocy Sal should go for a theology degree and then open his own little church rather than running this obscure online "university" which is so obviously pseudoscienctific and especially so anti-academic that it will not attract even the dumbest IDiots. Like Dembski he may not be a good enough speaker, though.
It worked for L. Ron Hubbard.  

And he didn't even get the theology degree.
Hubbard? Of course he only used the tools of theology sycophancy and greed the rest were sheep & collateral damage.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 14:23
Post by midwifetoad
UD conducts a debate against an invisible opponent.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....allenge
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 13:34
Post by CeilingCat
Quote (sparc @ Mar. 11 2014,23:46)   Quote (REC @ Mar. 11 2014,10:29)I think Sal is following O'Leary's tactics, and launching multiple YEC blogs this month:

Liars For Darwin

is running.
If he wants to make a living out of his creationist idiocy Sal should go for a theology degree and then open his own little church rather than running this obscure online "university" which is so obviously pseudoscienctific and especially so anti-academic that it will not attract even the dumbest IDiots. Like Dembski he may not be a good enough speaker, though.
It worked for L. Ron Hubbard.  

And he didn't even get the theology degree.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 06:38
Post by k.e..
Quote (sparc @ Mar. 12 2014,07:46) Quote (REC @ Mar. 11 2014,10:29)I think Sal is following O'Leary's tactics, and launching multiple YEC blogs this month:

Liars For Darwin

is running.
If he wants to make a living out of his creationist idiocy Sal should go for a theology degree and then open his own little church rather than running this obscure online "university" which is so obviously pseudoscienctific and especially so anti-academic that it will not attract even the dumbest IDiots. Like Dembski he may not be a good enough speaker, though.
Demski not a good enough speaker? Doesn't he have a Sunday school class weekend child minding gig?
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Wed, 2014-03-12 04:46
Post by sparc
Quote (REC @ Mar. 11 2014,10:29)I think Sal is following O'Leary's tactics, and launching multiple YEC blogs this month:

Liars For Darwin

is running.
If he wants to make a living out of his creationist idiocy Sal should go for a theology degree and then open his own little church rather than running this obscure online "university" which is so obviously pseudoscienctific and especially so anti-academic that it will not attract even the dumbest IDiots. Like Dembski he may not be a good enough speaker, though.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-03-11 23:51
Post by Glen Davidson
Quote Quote    This is all no great surprise. Why on earth should we expect that a theory drawn up 80 or so years ago will remain inviolable today? As I am sure Darwin expected, evolution is complex and doesn’t have a single operative principle, although obviously natural selection is a big part of it. (I need to be careful what I say here – one ticking off I got was from a biologist who was unhappy that I had over-stressed natural selection at the molecular level, which I freely confess was a slight failure of nerve – I have found that saying such things can induce apoplexy in folks who see the shadows of creationism everywhere.) My complaint is why this seemingly obvious truth gets so little airplay in popular accounts of genetics and evolution. I’m still puzzled by that.

Ball apparently doesn’t realize that Darwinism is the creation story of new atheism, and must therefore be held inviolate.

Yes, that's why such sentiments appear in prominent science journals, blogs, and in the responses we make the grotesque ignorance of UD posts.

No, wait, it's the IDiots who have to invent an inviolate "Darwinism" for "atheism," and are too stupid even to notice the difference between "Darwinism" and "Neodarwinism."

Better than dealing with what science actually says, the evidence, or anything like the truth, of course.

Glen Davidson
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DI EN&V

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-03-11 22:59
Post by Wesley R. Elsberry
DI EN&V:

  Quote
But there's one problem: Bruno's execution, troubling as it was, had virtually nothing to do with his Copernican views. He was condemned and burned in 1600, but it was not because he speculated that the Earth rotated around the sun along with the other planets. He was condemned because he denied the doctrine of the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, and transubstantiation, claimed that all would be saved, and taught that there was an infinite swarm of eternal worlds of which ours was only one. The latter idea he got from the ancient (materialist) philosopher Lucretius. Is it any surprise, then, that, as a defrocked Dominican friar denying essential tenets of Catholic doctrine and drawing strength from the closest thing to an atheist in the Roman world, he might have gotten in trouble with the Inquisition? Yet a documentary series about science and our knowledge of the universe fritters away valuable airtime on this Dominican mystic and heretic, while scarcely mentioning Copernicus, the Polish guy who actually wrote the book proposing a sun-centered universe.


and

  Quote
Neil deGrasse Tyson does include a few hedges. While wandering the streets of modern-day Rome, he admits that Bruno wasn't a scientist and that his view of a sun-centered solar system was a "lucky guess." And during the animated dramatization of Bruno's sentence, the dark and menacing judge finds the brave Dominican guilty not just of being a Copernican, but of various theological trivialities which are never otherwise mentioned or explained. Despite these hints at nuance, not one viewer in a thousand could miss the real message: Christianity has been the enemy of science, and its henchmen tried to kill off the first brave souls who ventured a scientific thought.


From the Cosmos narration by Tyson:

  Quote
Giordano Bruno lived in a time when there was no such thing as the separation of church and state, or the notion that freedom of speech was a sacred right of every individual. Expressing an idea that didn't conform to traditional belief could land you in deep trouble. Recklessly, Bruno returned to Italy. Maybe he was homesick, but still he must have known that his homeland was one of the most dangerous places in Europe he could possibly go. The Roman Catholic Church maintained a system of courts known as the Inquisition, and its sole purpose was to investigate and torment anyone who dared voice views that differed from theirs. It wasn't long before Bruno fell into the clutches of the thought police.


The DI complains that Bruno wasn't killed for his views on cosmology alone. But the point that Tyson clearly laid out in Cosmos was that disagreeing with "traditional belief" could be, and sometimes was, fatal. I don't see any workaround for the lead-up that Cosmos *actually* used, rather than the one the DI would like people to think that they used. People could, and did, end up paying the ultimate penalty for expressing views that were not entirely compatible with "traditional belief". And the grounds upon which death could be served up were sometimes incredibly narrow. Regardless of whether the DI thinks Bruno was a negligible non-entity in the history of science or not, his death stands as a significant event in the annals of religious intolerance, just as Cosmos rightly pointed out.

Well, we've long known that the DI couldn't be troubled to read things for comprehension that they critique (see here for details), but now they can't even watch a TV show?
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-03-11 21:54
Post by Reciprocating Bill
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2014,04:38)     Quote (Quack @ Mar. 11 2014,03:27)     Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 10 2014,22:48)       Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 10 2014,14:28)Could Robert Byers aspire to be the Gary Gaulin of creationism? Is he that great?
I dunno about that. Would Byers be able to collect large numbers of details (each of which is more or less accurate if taken on its own), the way Gaulin does?

Henry
RB is funny in a weird sort of way, but he knows nothing, understands nothing - in short, he's immersed in ignorance to up over his head.
RB being Byers, not our beloved Reciprocating Bill.
Anyone confuses me with Robert Byers, I shoot mys... him.
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Young Cosmos

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-03-11 21:50
Post by Richardthughes
Sal makes a prediction:

Quote Please do this for every topic point in the Opening Post since this is deep. Provide links to threads that elaborate pro or con, OK? Otherwise this discussion will have 40,000 replies!

Emphasis mine.

Yeah. 40,000.  
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DI EN&V

AE Public Forum - Tue, 2014-03-11 21:28
Post by J-Dog
Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 11 2014,16:18) Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 11 2014,16:03) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 27 2014,11:13)The DI ENV is pushing an article by Stephen Webb that supposedly "schools" Stephen Meredith on IDC and "occasionalism".

Anybody else see the problem in Webb's thing that I do?

      Quote They then test their hypothesis by calculating the probability that a specific set of causes can create new biological forms.

lulz, as if cID theoristsists have ever actually calculated anything, ever.
I'm sure some of them calculated how much money they could make off the rubes.  That's kind of sciency, right?
FTFY! :)

Quote 'm sure some ALL  of them calculated how much money they could make off the rubes.  That's kind of sciency, right?
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Baton Rouge Advocate endorses repeal effort again

The Baton Rouge Advocate (March 9, 2014) reaffirmed its editorial support (previously expressed in 2013) for the attempt to repeal Louisiana's so-called Science Education Act, which, Governor Bobby Jindal told NBC News in 2013, permits the teaching of creationism, including "intelligent design."

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Here's the Cure for Cosmos

ARN ID Update - Mon, 2014-03-10 02:46

At ENV, there will be more to say about Seth MacFarlane's revival of the Carl Sagan vehicle for scientific materialism after we've seen it. In the meantime, you may wish to have access to the antidote handy before grappling with the ailment itself.

For that, you couldn't do better than Illustra Media's series of stunning video documentaries on the theme of intelligent design in cosmology and biology. Most of these are actually viewable immediately as Amazon instant videos. The single most relevant film is The Privileged Planet, but don't forget The Case for a Creator, Darwin's Dilemma, Unlocking the Mystery of Life, Flight and Metamorphosis. Find them on the Illustra website or, on Amazon.

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Cosmos - the antidote for ID?

ARN ID Update - Mon, 2014-03-10 02:40

In an Evolution News & Views...In case you had any uncertainty about the upcoming 13-part Cosmos series, a revival of the Carl Sagan franchise, executive producer Seth MacFarlane has Darwin skeptics and alternatives to Darwinian evolution very much in his crosshairs. This is a major and costly project, though Fox won't say how costly - so it's flattering in a way. In an interview in the Los Angeles Times, MacFarlane says:

We've had a resurgence of creationism and intelligent design quote-unquote theory. There's been a real vacuum when it comes to science education. The nice thing about this show is that I think that it does what the original "Cosmos" did and presents it in such a flashy, entertaining way that, as Carl Sagan put it in 1980, even people who have no interest in science will watch just because it's a spectacle. People who watched the original "Cosmos" will sit down and watch with their kids.

Click here for more...

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2014 Summer Seminars on Intelligent Design

ID the Future - Sun, 2014-03-09 18:03
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, Casey Luskin gives some information on the Center for Science and Culture's 2014 Summer Seminars in Seattle. This all-expenses-paid learning opportunity is open to undergraduate and graduate students in the...
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Why Do We Live in a Huge, Yet Finite, Expanding Universe?

With excitement about the upcoming Fox series Cosmos approaching a peak, we asked our resident physicist, Dr. Rob Sheldon, to comment. Rob Sheldon
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New Cosmos Series Has Intelligent Design in Its Crosshairs

Today, materialism of the Carl Sagan variety is overwhelmingly maintained by careful averting of the eyes from counterevidence and counterarguments. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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