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Jerry Coyne Admits that Intelligent Design Is Science -NOT

ARN ID Update - Sun, 2014-03-23 13:37

In ENV, Casey Luskin writes that..."Jerry Coyne is playing more games, constantly pretending that we have "admitted" intelligent design is religious when we criticize Ball State University (BSU) for being "anti-religious." In his post, Coyne was responding to a letter I published in the Muncie Star Press explaining the anti-religious nature of the book What's Your Dangerous Idea?."

Much more...

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Dr. David Snoke, pt. 2

ID the Future - Sun, 2014-03-23 04:43
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, hear more from physics professor Dr. David Snoke. Dr. Snoke gives a brief review of Stephen Meyer's Darwin's Doubt, offers advice to students who are open to intelligent design theory...
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All Is Fair in Novels About Evolution and Intelligent Design?

I've just read a new fiction book that has won praise from critics, Lauren Grodstein's The Explanation for Everything. Kelley J. Unger
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Jerry Coyne Admits that Intelligent Design Is Science

Actually, he doesn't -- but saying he does is about as accurate as saying, as Coyne writes in a post today, that "Casey Luskin admits that Intelligent Design is religious." Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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Prominent Columnist for Indiana's Largest Newspaper Weighs in on the Ball State Affair

Allowing the triumph of bullies to stand unchallenged is an encouragement to bullying -- a theme in international news today, of course. David Klinghoffer http://www.discovery.org/p/209
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Nature: Galápagos Finch "Species" Can Interbreed

The Galápagos finches are often touted as a great example of an adaptive radiation, showing how new species can arise through evolutionary processes. Casey Luskin http://www.discovery.org/p/188
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The Myth of Science's Neutrality

"Science is made by people with interests, intentions and ambitions; and it's funded by governments and companies with agendas." Evolution News & Views
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 03:21
Post by Wesley R. Elsberry
There is an overwhelming record of people not being able to engage the topic with civility, even if you simply look at what happened here. There are many fora available, we don't need to become yet another smoking ruin in terms of discussion.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 03:08
Post by Cubist
Again: Any substantive discussion of the topic at hand would inevitably lead to a topic which Our Gracious Host would prefer that we avoid. I would recommend that you, too, investigate the origins of the Online Pocket O' Misogyny which proudly bears the self-granted name of "slymepit". If you would like to engage in actual discourse on said topic, there is PMs and there is email. And before you conclude that my somewhat elliptical remarks here are born of a lack of respect for evidence, perhaps you might inquire with Our Gracious Host regarding his tolerance for discussion of one particular topic.
Or, you know, not.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 02:35
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (socle @ Mar. 22 2014,20:35) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,19:24)Integral curve is similar but grid network vectors show more than one possible (violet) path from each X,Y by there usually being more than one active input.



Following one or more attractors in a circular path back to a given point is something happening over time, temporal, not one propagation timestep that at each shows all possible paths (both short and long) to an attractor.  

There is nothing at all wrong with how I explained things.
I see.  Have you investigated other types of mathematical systems which might have some connection to your theory?
Yes, and I came up with what came to mind for you.

The grid cell model is using very simple wave propagation that in turn (and all by itself) produces directional vectors for multiple paths. It's not something I read about and tried, was more like common sense that the grid network model would propagate waves, then after looking at the way the cells were active with each other I noticed they were pointing out the paths that can be taken to reach the transmitting location. I'm not sure whether that has a name, it's not triangulation.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 02:05
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 22 2014,19:46) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,15:17)Whatever academic snobbery you want to hurl at me next is your choice. The two or three word quote mining for a semantics argument looks good. But I think most will be able to understand the concept of directional vectors being used to make complex weather maps showing all paths the wind went, at a given moment in time. And it makes little sense for me to argue that there are enough neurons in our brain, after providing info on what is now known about neural grid modules.
Quote mining?  Here's the full text of the post in question:
  Quote And I called it "self-navigation" because with the grid system in Confidence there is no need for a navigational system that decides what to do next then preplans motor movements in the form of motor commands to move it along some path. It it-self already knows where it wants to navigate, and can virtually perceive all the paths that can be taken to get there including long ways it can go.
What did you mean by "virtually"?  If you're using the standard sense of the word, you mean that it can perceive almost all of the paths. If you were using the computer science sense of "virtual" there is a significantly different meaning.
The word "virtual" is to indicate that the entity exists in a computer simulation, as opposed to the real world where it would then have a brain made of living neurons. One uses math and logic, the other molecules and cells, to produce the needed direction vectors. In both cases there is a grid map representative of what the entity perceives at that moment in time for possible paths it can take, where some follow the barrier/wall while others straight at it. Which path it takes to the attractor(s) depends on behavior. Some insects prefer to follow walls for as far as they can go (would choose an outer angular vector for direction), others fly the shortest route (would use average central angle they point towards). Regardless of which possible path is ultimately taken what is being perceived still includes all of them, at the same time, even paths they would not ever follow (but another would).
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 01:58
Post by socle
Here's one that comes to mind:
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 01:50
Post by Glen Davidson
Quote (Cubist @ Mar. 22 2014,20:39) Quote (Patrick @ Mar. 22 2014,14:43)   Quote (Driver @ Mar. 22 2014,14:57)     Quote (Patrick @ Mar. 22 2014,16:57)     Quote (Driver @ Mar. 22 2014,12:16)       Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 22 2014,14:30)       Quote (REC @ Mar. 21 2014,22:19)and the UD Fri night drinking game....

          Quote usually the women thing is to promote women in science as they historically and today lag behind. I don’t think women can compete with men intellectually because of a lack of motivation or rather not as motivated as men. men are made to be accomplished and women were made to help men only as the bible teaches. in science accomplishment this is made obvious as affirmative action can’t hide the ratio.

Drink until you 1) forget asshats like this exist and
2) That all the xtian UDers will call you out on anything that looks like some support of some real science, but never, never this...
Anyone else want to lock this guy in a room with Erv and a buncha medieval weapons?
To see which one hates women the most?
You seem to have ERV confused with the gutless bastard who tried to get her fired for opinions she posted online.
No. Misogyny is not a unique phenomenon.
If you're going to accuse an intelligent, articulate, accomplished woman who is actively working in HIV research of misogyny, you should provide some evidence.  If you can't, you should retract your unsupported insult.
This leads directly into an topic which Our Gracious Host greatly prefers that we avoid, so I will restrict myself to this one remark on the subject: I would recommend that you investigate the origins of the Online Pocket O' Misogyny which proudly bears the self-granted name of "slymepit".
Oh, you can sling unevidenced BS as well as any other fascist propagandist.

Typical SJW lack of concern for evidence.  

Glen Davidson
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 5

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 01:39
Post by Cubist
Quote (Patrick @ Mar. 22 2014,14:43) Quote (Driver @ Mar. 22 2014,14:57) Quote (Patrick @ Mar. 22 2014,16:57)   Quote (Driver @ Mar. 22 2014,12:16)   Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 22 2014,14:30)     Quote (REC @ Mar. 21 2014,22:19)and the UD Fri night drinking game....

      Quote usually the women thing is to promote women in science as they historically and today lag behind. I don’t think women can compete with men intellectually because of a lack of motivation or rather not as motivated as men. men are made to be accomplished and women were made to help men only as the bible teaches. in science accomplishment this is made obvious as affirmative action can’t hide the ratio.

Drink until you 1) forget asshats like this exist and
2) That all the xtian UDers will call you out on anything that looks like some support of some real science, but never, never this...
Anyone else want to lock this guy in a room with Erv and a buncha medieval weapons?
To see which one hates women the most?
You seem to have ERV confused with the gutless bastard who tried to get her fired for opinions she posted online.
No. Misogyny is not a unique phenomenon.
If you're going to accuse an intelligent, articulate, accomplished woman who is actively working in HIV research of misogyny, you should provide some evidence.  If you can't, you should retract your unsupported insult.
This gets into an area which Our Gracious Host does not want to have flare up into a flamewar, so I will restrict myself to this one remark on the subject: Perhaps you might want to investigate the origins of the Online Pocket O' Misogyny which proudly bears the self-granted name of "slymepit".
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 01:35
Post by socle
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,19:24)Integral curve is similar but grid network vectors show more than one possible (violet) path from each X,Y by there usually being more than one active input.



Following one or more attractors in a circular path back to a given point is something happening over time, temporal, not one propagation timestep that at each shows all possible paths (both short and long) to an attractor.  

There is nothing at all wrong with how I explained things.
I see.  Have you investigated other types of mathematical systems which might have some connection to your theory?
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 00:46
Post by Jim_Wynne
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,15:17)Whatever academic snobbery you want to hurl at me next is your choice. The two or three word quote mining for a semantics argument looks good. But I think most will be able to understand the concept of directional vectors being used to make complex weather maps showing all paths the wind went, at a given moment in time. And it makes little sense for me to argue that there are enough neurons in our brain, after providing info on what is now known about neural grid modules.
Quote mining?  Here's the full text of the post in question:
Quote And I called it "self-navigation" because with the grid system in Confidence there is no need for a navigational system that decides what to do next then preplans motor movements in the form of motor commands to move it along some path. It it-self already knows where it wants to navigate, and can virtually perceive all the paths that can be taken to get there including long ways it can go.
What did you mean by "virtually"?  If you're using the standard sense of the word, you mean that it can perceive almost all of the paths. If you were using the computer science sense of "virtual" there is a significantly different meaning.

*Your* poor writing and English usage causes confusion. In another instance in the same post, you say refer to "...complex weather maps showing all paths the wind went, at a given moment in time."  Did you mean all paths the wind might take, or are you referring to an historical map?  It matters.  If you meant the latter, it has no bearing on the point you're trying to make. Of course, if you meant the former it's a poor analogy.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sun, 2014-03-23 00:24
Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (socle @ Mar. 22 2014,17:34) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,15:17)Whatever academic snobbery you want to hurl at me next is your choice. The two or three word quote mining for a semantics argument looks good. But I think most will be able to understand the concept of directional vectors being used to make complex weather maps showing all paths the wind went, at a given moment in time. And it makes little sense for me to argue that there are enough neurons in our brain, after providing info on what is now known about neural grid modules.

It sounds to me like what the Grid Cell Network model demonstrates just toasted your method(s) for eliminating that from your models using lines between points type reasoning, instead of hexagonal grids of angular vectors.
It looks like the "paths" you're talking about are integral curves which are solutions to the differential equation corresponding to the field of "changing flow vectors" *cough*.  

You're not claiming your bug is aware of all possible paths from one point to another, correct?  Cause there's a shedload of them, even on your tiny 16 x 16 grid, even if you assume that paths cannot double back or the like.
Integral curve is similar but grid network vectors show more than one possible (violet) path from each X,Y by there usually being more than one active input.



Following one or more attractors in a circular path back to a given point is something happening over time, temporal, not one propagation timestep that at each shows all possible paths (both short and long) to an attractor.  

There is nothing at all wrong with how I explained things.
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A Separate Thread for Gary Gaulin

AE Public Forum - Sat, 2014-03-22 22:34
Post by socle
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Mar. 22 2014,15:17)Whatever academic snobbery you want to hurl at me next is your choice. The two or three word quote mining for a semantics argument looks good. But I think most will be able to understand the concept of directional vectors being used to make complex weather maps showing all paths the wind went, at a given moment in time. And it makes little sense for me to argue that there are enough neurons in our brain, after providing info on what is now known about neural grid modules.

It sounds to me like what the Grid Cell Network model demonstrates just toasted your method(s) for eliminating that from your models using lines between points type reasoning, instead of hexagonal grids of angular vectors.
It looks like the "paths" you're talking about are integral curves which are solutions to the differential equation corresponding to the field of "changing flow vectors" *cough*.  

You're not claiming your bug is aware of all possible paths from one point to another, correct?  Cause there's a shedload of them, even on your tiny 16 x 16 grid, even if you assume that paths cannot double back or the like.
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Dr. David Snoke, pt. 1

ID the Future - Fri, 2014-03-21 06:41
Listen Now. On this episode of ID the Future, Dr. David Snoke, a professor of physics and President and Founder of the Christian Scientific Society, is on the show to talk with Research Coordinator Casey Luskin. Listen in as...
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Ball State University: Why It Matters

What is academic freedom? For one, it's a real thing, real as in we didn't make it up here at Discovery Institute. Joshua Youngkin http://www.discovery.org/p/501
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