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Post by Henry J
If it wouldn't be an insult to birds, I'd say something about bird-brains here...
Post by sparc
New footage from the DI summer school:
But are they really educating [quote]the Next Generation of Scientists and Scholars![quote]
According to World Magazine they are rather preaching the choir.
Post by midwifetoad
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 13 2014,08:15)What's up with that picture of Meyer? Looks like he is squeezed into a suit 4x too big for his head ... if I didn't know better i'd say that had been photo-shopped badly!
Post by REC
Wonder what happened to the follow-up on this one:
Quote These translation products, called vector proteins, are functionless unless they form legible Chinese characters, in which case they serve the real
function of writing. This coupling of artificial genetic causation to the real world of language makes evolutionary experimentation possible in a context where innovation can have a richness of variety and a depth of causal complexity that at least hints at what is needed to explain the complexity of bacterial proteomes. In order for this possibility to be realized, we here provide a complete Stylus genome as an experimental starting point.
Kinda goofy, but they built a 70,000 word genome. Not a small amount of work. This was done and written up by May 2011. And then, did they try to 'evolve' it?
1) They did, it works, shhh....
2) DI gets into a fight: providing a fitness landscape is "smuggling information" in even though that is exactly what the environment does in evolution, crap our analogy defeats our point...shh
3) The Chinese speaker bailed
4) The bug evolved into the prolific writings of VJTorley, translated and dumped onto UD for us.
Post by Robin
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 12 2014,15:38)So glad this thread has gone active again ... super pictures these past few days. Living here in the South of England, there's not much opportunity to get out right now unless you have a boat and like taking pictures of lakes.
I bought myself a Canon 100mm f2.8 macro lens for Christmas, with an OEM ring flash (not an LED knock-off) so i've been playing around with that combination learning how to take macro shots.
All of these are handheld at 1/200th with the flash, most I think are between f11 and f22 to get some decent depth given that the macro lens has an extremely shallow DoF at f8 and below. This all makes for a challenge, of course. I've now got a monopod coming in the post (by canoe, probably) just to hopefully increase the 'good' shot ratio. Also ordered a macro slider so I can try out some focus stacked shots with my tripod.
These couple are from a frosty morning in early January.
Cool macros Freddie! I'm thinking about getting a similar lens myself. You've definitely got me thinking about it again with these!
Post by Robin
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 12 2014,13:26)Yeah, it's been cold here too!
Eastern Screech-owl, pondering the 12 inches of snow under its roost
Yellow-rumped Warbler, looking at the icy water in the bird bath.
Wow! Nice David! I can't get a good close shot of our Yellow-Rumped Warbler like that. She won't come close enough to me.
And I really like the Screech Owl!
Post by stevestory
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 13 2014,00:16)No new articles. Still, D. Klinghoffer is celbrating Bio-Complexity's 4th birthday
[mibad--meant to reply but hit Edit instead. -Steve]
Quote Happy Darwin Day! To Celebrate, Go Review Four Years of BIO-Complexity
David Klinghoffer February 12, 2014 3:34 AM
Why not? It sure won't take long
Post by k.e..
Twitter = crack cocaine for trolls & a sink hole for ID rubes.
good luck to them
If you are wondering where those boat loads of cartel $ are ending up ask those bill shredders and launderers on Wall St.
Post by Freddie
What's up with that picture of Meyer? Looks like he is squeezed into a suit 4x too big for his head ... if I didn't know better i'd say that had been photo-shopped badly!
Antievolutionists Say the Darndest Things
Antievolutionists often express outrage over alleged incivility from those who oppose their efforts to evade the establishment clause of the First Amendment. But they have no difficulty in dishing out the abuse themselves. Here is a sample from the Invidious Comparisons thread that documents egregious behavior on the part of the religious antievolution advocates.
IDC advocate Jonathan Wells:
These critics include embryologists, paleontologists, biochemists, molecular biologists, medical doctors, philosophers, and even lawyers. Unfortunately, the North American science-and-religion establishment has largely turned a deaf ear to these critics, preferring instead to abandon classical theology and embrace metaphysical materialism and moral relativism. But I see the situation as analogous to the last years of Soviet communism. A small, powerful elite controls all the official information outlets while the evidence against the official position swells quietly, like a wave building offshore. Someday soon, to the surprise of many people in academia and the media, the wave will break. I predict that the Darwinist establishment will come apart at the seams, just as the Soviet Empire did in 1990.Link