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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,13:05   

150 years later, the finches on the Galapagos islands are still teaching us the same things they taught Darwin.

http://www.physorg.com/news72100592.html

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,18:12   

This seems to be a follow up on the work of biologists Peter and Rosemary Grant as detailed in The Beak of the Finch.

The Beak of the Finch

Wonderful book BTW, for those who haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,18:29   

Oh yeah? If the Galapagos finches are evolving...

then how come we still have finches? ? ? ?

(Sorry, someone had to say it.) ;)

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,18:37   

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Oh yeah? If the Galapagos finches are evolving...

then how come we still have finches? ? ? ?

(Sorry, someone had to say it.)


Actually, Ichthyic said it (kinda) in the title of the thread.  :O

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,18:53   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 14 2006,23:37)
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Oh yeah? If the Galapagos finches are evolving...

then how come we still have finches? ? ? ?

(Sorry, someone had to say it.)


Actually, Ichthyic said it (kinda) in the title of the thread.  :O

He didn't go far enough. :p

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2006,23:41   

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He didn't go far enough.  

And neither have they, the finches that is.

wtg, show those chance worshippers the truth.  unfortunately, since there can be only one genius of ID on this blog, you'll have to show them somewhere else. -dt

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2006,00:56   

Thats interesting.  However I note that a geneticist says that it is an example of microevolution, so that must be a proper scientific word, and we're all lying about micro/ macro evolution!!!

Anyone got a spare island on which I can carry out my experiment into speciation?  I was thinking of marooning great danes and chihuahuas on the same island, ensuring that they have different food sources, and leaving them for 200 years, then seeing if they stand any chance of interbreeding.

  
plasmasnake23



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2006,18:37   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 14 2006,23:29)
Oh yeah? If the Galapagos finches are evolving...

then how come we still have finches? ? ? ?

(Sorry, someone had to say it.) ;)

A guy in high school said this to me about monkeys and humans. What could I do? I think my jaw fell open and I just sat there dumbfounded.

  
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2006,18:44   

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A guy in high school said this to me about monkeys and humans. What could I do? I think my jaw fell open and I just sat there dumbfounded.


Everyone should learn the proper response:

"If God made us from dirt, why is there still dirt ??"   ;)

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Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2006,20:46   

Or "If Americans are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans".

  
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