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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,07:09   

Since World on the Web has become an attack angel for the forces of academic freedom, Marvin Olasky has been trying to push down his raging tard-on for Expelled.  It keeps bobbing back up like a weeble wobble.  I think he is pissed because none of the three presidential candidates yet seem likely to pay any attention him and now ID is religion that they won't even let be science so I think World is going to go with this line from now on, which is great because it makes them look [i]even stupider than before[/].

This thread is for that stuff.  It may just make the Top Tard Quotes thread obsolete, for this is the Colombia of Tard.  

Let me just start it off with this recent new favorite (I hope John M works in the schools faith-based community).

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I think we in the faith community really botched the way we introduced ID into the public square. Trying to get it taught in science classes alongside more conventional topics was the wrong way to go. It’s more metaphysics than straght science, so the church or an honors programs is the more appropriate venue.

The problem is that not enough people in the church understand well enought to teach it, and it would be rejected by churches that have a young-earth world view. So we just tried to get the state to teach it for us. Bad move.


Well.  Very well counselor no further questions your honor.


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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,07:18   

Not to be content with that sort of kick-off, here is another dandy from the same thread.

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JJF, I’m sure the atheist trolls on this board would applaud your submission to the authority of science. You’re right, it’s hard for we, the “unwashed herd,” to comment (let alone contend) with an overwhelming consenus on the part of a professional elite.

The science mainstream tells us to “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,” since they know that if we took a peak, we’d understand how evolutionary science constantly fabricates contrived explanations in response to contrary data. Take the currently accepted model of the formation of the Earth-Moon system, as dreamed up by Bill Hartmann et al….

The Moon’s orbit is too circular to support a capture scenario but the Moon’s composition (as established by the Apollo missions) is too iron-deficient to support co-accretion with the Earth. So let’s just imagine a Mars-sized object that collided with the proto-Earth a zillion years ago and blew off enough silicates to form the observed mass and composition of the Moon. And let’s create a computer model that includes the exact size, mass, angle of attack, and other parameters of the object and the proto-Earth to shoehorn the currently-observed data into the model. Presto! a reverse-engineering of the desired scenario. Then let’s include that theory in public school textbooks and make a few PBS specials about it and pat anyone on the head as a simpleton who has any doubts.

Critics of darwinism might find it hard to compete with this sort of manpower and resources, but such endeavors nevertheless do not incontrovertibly establish objective scientific “fact” but are rather more akin to indoctrination. Apparently it worked in your case.


I've been hammering one particularly intoxicated troll, mynym, familiar to some of you miners i am sure.  Fundies love the narrative form of model selection.  Tell the story, replete with punch line, slap knee guffaw scientists are stoopid Praise Jesus Amen tell me another story.  Use some big words this time but make it end the same way (they don't know nothin, and we do because It Was Revealed etc).

This is the po-mo influence on the religious right.  Model selection and comparison, parsimony, explanatory reduction, predicate logic, etc are lost on them.  It is all, construct a narrative using a symbology that is non-referential, and end with we know what we need to know already.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,09:04   

Indeed.

Or just fill the discretionary couch time channels with vomit AKA theo-GWD is great-propaganda.

Praise the messiah ( Rev. Moon), big Carbon, Boing-blood & bombs et processed fat advertising.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,09:33   

Thanks for the link.

I addressed some of the yec moon arguments in "Oard's Moonbeam.".

Edited by Dr.GH on April 21 2008,07:34

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,14:06   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 21 2008,07:09)
I think he is pissed because none of the three presidential candidates yet seem likely to pay any attention him and now ID is religion that they won't even let be science so I think World is going to go with this line from now on, which is great because it makes them look even stupider than before.

Breathe man, you're turning blue!

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,15:36   

yeah.  even stupider than they looked before would have been sufficient.

the world thread kills me though.  most of those folks are probably nice people good neighbors etc blah blah.  yet they are hook line and sinker for this bullshit, mostly because of Identity Politics and of course a healthy dose of good old irrational anti-intellecutal hyperselective skeptic stupiditism GONE WILD WHOOOOO.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,16:25   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 21 2008,08:18)
Not to be content with that sort of kick-off, here is another dandy from the same thread.

 
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JJF, I’m sure the atheist trolls on this board would applaud your submission to the authority of science. You’re right, it’s hard for we, the “unwashed herd,” to comment (let alone contend) with an overwhelming consenus on the part of a professional elite.

The science mainstream tells us to “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,” since they know that if we took a peak, we’d understand how evolutionary science constantly fabricates contrived explanations in response to contrary data. Take the currently accepted model of the formation of the Earth-Moon system, as dreamed up by Bill Hartmann et al….

The Moon’s orbit is too circular to support a capture scenario but the Moon’s composition (as established by the Apollo missions) is too iron-deficient to support co-accretion with the Earth. So let’s just imagine a Mars-sized object that collided with the proto-Earth a zillion years ago and blew off enough silicates to form the observed mass and composition of the Moon. And let’s create a computer model that includes the exact size, mass, angle of attack, and other parameters of the object and the proto-Earth to shoehorn the currently-observed data into the model. Presto! a reverse-engineering of the desired scenario. Then let’s include that theory in public school textbooks and make a few PBS specials about it and pat anyone on the head as a simpleton who has any doubts.

Critics of darwinism might find it hard to compete with this sort of manpower and resources, but such endeavors nevertheless do not incontrovertibly establish objective scientific “fact” but are rather more akin to indoctrination. Apparently it worked in your case.



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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2008,19:52   

since they know that if we took a peak

Mt Whitney?

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2008,01:22   

Quote (khan @ April 21 2008,19:52)
since they know that if we took a peak

Mt Whitney?

More likely Horeb/Sinai, Ararat, or the Mount of Olives  :p

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