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Question: Updated: What's Your Educational Background? :: Total Votes:192
Poll choices Votes Statistics
PhD Science 59  [30.73%]
PhD Humanities 7  [3.65%]
BS/BA/Ma Science 80  [41.67%]
BS/BA/Ma Humanities 27  [14.06%]
High School 13  [6.77%]
Lots of Scientific American 2  [1.04%]
I Done Readed a Lot on the Internets 4  [2.08%]
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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:37   

Not everything is going to fit neatly in those categories. Just do your best.

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:49   

This would leave out most of UD's readership, since it omits "engineering degree", "theology degree", "I was in the military for a while" and "I don't much cotton to that fancy book larnin".

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:56   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 17 2007,15:49)
This would leave out most of UD's readership, since it omits "engineering degree", "theology degree", "I was in the military for a while" and "I don't much cotton to that fancy book larnin".

And of course "the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it, and when I meet God I'm looking forward to explaining why I refuse to use the brain he gave me".

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,16:16   

"Brain? Brain? What is brain?"

  
guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,16:57   

Surely Theology counts as humanities, and engineering as sciences, roughly.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,17:16   

Interestingly, the AtBC forum index shows a later timestamp than the topic or the A.E. BB index - I suppose that reflects when a vote was last submitted?

(Of course, the timestamps will change when I submit this. :) )

Henry

  
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,17:48   

I homeschooled myself.

(snicker)  (giggle)

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:35   

I READ LOTS OF HARD SCI-FI. WHY ISN'T THIS A CHOICE? IT SHOULD BE ABOVE PHD. PLUS YOU HAVE NO BOX FOR AUTODICTOR / DELL HEALTH AND HYGIENE PROGRAM. SORT IT STORY OR YOU'LL BE SORRY.


HOMO.

:angry:

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:49   

LOL Oh Noes!!!!11111oneoneone

   
Dean Morrison



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:54   

'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,19:43   

I squished myself into Ph.D. humanities, which may have been a bit presumptuous:
It's actually a four-year anthropology degree, plus a three-year law degree (juris doctor, doncha know...).  
This seemed a bit more than an MA, but I'm quite sure it's a good deal less sweat than what goes into an anthro Ph.D., for example.  Or literature, sociology, art history, whatever.  (Though some of those folks would probably prefer the several extra years of school and fieldwork to the Socratic method...)
So my apologies to hard-grinding doctoral students everywhere for elbowing onto your turf.
And I do read a whole lot of Scientific American, Discover, The Loom, Pharyngula, etc., not to mention popular science books (and the occasional physics, bio, evo-devo college text).
Nothing wrong with that, of course.
But note the distinction, davetards of the world, between subscribing to Scientific american and reading for content.
And I'm still going to get around to reading the cool linguistics paper that Arden sent me a week or two ago.
As soon as I get my taxes done.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,19:59   

 
Quote

And I'm still going to get around to reading the cool linguistics paper that Arden sent me a week or two ago.


Funny you should mention that, I was just about to email you and ask you if you got it. :p

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Richiyaado



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:07   

Well, I registered here just so I could vote.

I have a BFA in painting and printmaking. This qualifies me to make hard-edged acrylic paintings using masking tape and gel medium. Unfortunately, I'm unqualified to do much of anything else, so I work in advertising.

My interest in the evo/creo debate arose when I worked for a regional library system in Wisconsin. Probably because no one else wanted to, I occasionally had to deal with people who a) wanted to permanently remove science books from tiny public libraries in very small towns, b) shelve creationist books in the science section of tiny public libraries in very small towns or c) shut down the whole shebang.

  
Thought Provoker



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:17   

Hi all,

Excuse me while I take some time to mope in my beer.
I just said goodbye to Telic Thoughts after about 6 months of posting there.

BTW, I have a BS Electrical Engineering with an MBA.  I put myself down for BS Science.

Don't get me wrong, as ID Proponents go, the TT bunch are pretty intelligent and most want to be open minded.  You see, I like to think I am pretty good at getting to the heart of issues and pointing them out (my engineering training).  I think I did a pretty good job.  I bent over backwards to put it in terms they could embrace by accepting all base ID assumptions (even Dembski's "math").  To no avail.  If it didn't support Theism it wasn't a "science" they could find acceptable.

I know better than argue with anyone about their faith, but I thought that maybe with a little open-mindedness and a firm declaration it's about science and not religion, that maybe, just maybe I could make a dent.

Oh well, pass me another beer, will ya?

Regards,
Thought Provoker

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:20   

Telic Thoughts is a unique ID blog. Unlike all the others (UD, JoeG, FtK,...) they aren't scared to death of informed commenters. They don't ban people for being knowledgeable.

As far as I know. Which is really based on very little info. I've been to TT only a handful of times.

   
Thought Provoker



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:32   

Stevestory,

What you say is true.
I was able to learn a lot from them.
I enjoyed myself.
A few of them I would like to call friends.
It was just becoming obvious I had done that all I could.
It was best I just leave.

Whether it makes sense or not, I am frustrated they couldn't learn more from our exchanges.

  
Flint



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:34   

What does one do with two B.S. degrees in the sciences, and one M.A. degree in humanities? Take a vote?

  
Thought Provoker



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:40   

Hi Flint,

With two degrees in Science and a degree in Humanities  I would think you could figure it out for yourself.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

  
bobk



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:48   

High school grad (Christrian Brothers Academy - 1972). Learning was important as was being able to support ones arguments. Dogma was available. Darwin's insights were celebrated as man's utilization of God's gifts. Fundies were pitied.

  
bystander



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,22:17   

Quote (guthrie @ April 18 2007,09:57)
Surely Theology counts as humanities, and engineering as sciences, roughly.

It would be nice to separate the engineers from the scientists. More to show that not all engineers are ID nongs.

BTW I am an engineer.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:06   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ April 17 2007,19:43)
As soon as I get my taxes done.

Uh oh.

Are you one of those people standing in a half-mile long line full of pissed off, nervous people at the post office at 11:59pm, April 17th?

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:10   

Chemistry.

All life is chemistry.

I am all life.

Lenny, eat your heart out.

  
edarrell



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:18   

Well, yeah, it's hard to figure out where to put the J.D.  The folks over at UD think I don't have it anyway.

But I did serious botany research for a few summers, and I had to sit through about eleventy jillion hearings on FDA, NCI, and every other health and science issue to come before Congress over a ten year period.  That -- similar to waterboarding on a dull afternoon -- should count for something.

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,00:10   

Interesting: nobody reads lots of Scientific American.  They must have put up the prices to counter dt's cancellation of his subscription.

Bob
(who actually has a degree higher than a PhD.  Unfortunately, the certificate is in Finnish, so I'm not sure what it's in)

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,00:29   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ April 17 2007,16:48)
I homeschooled myself.

(snicker)  (giggle)

Actually, I largely educated myself! My public schools weren't that great, and I got disgusted in third grade and read voraciously on my own.

B.A. in humanities, that's me, working toward an MLIS degree. I read about biology and astronomy for fun ('cause I'm such a party gal ;) Shimmies to the newcomer Thought Provoker.

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bystander



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,01:11   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 18 2007,17:10)
Interesting: nobody reads lots of Scientific American.  They must have put up the prices to counter dt's cancellation of his subscription.

Bob
(who actually has a degree higher than a PhD.  Unfortunately, the certificate is in Finnish, so I'm not sure what it's in)

I used to in the 80s until it got boring but I could only make one choice

  
MIchael Roberts



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,06:21   

I can't vote as it won't let me state I have degrees in science and humanities

Michael

  
IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,06:59   

I'm aiming for a BScEcon in International politics, but sadly my current level is only A-Levels. I presume that's US High School equivalent?

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PeterEvolves



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:12   

Cool to see this. My small kvetch is that I have an M.M. in Music Composition and Theory. It's an Arts degree. Close to Humanities but...

  
Thought Provoker



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:16   

Hi Kristine - thank you for that very warm welcome.  You are a girl after my own heart. I too was disgusted in my schooling and did a lot of thinking for myself. BTW, my schooling started in the '60s. I am still thinking for myself though.   :)

  
fusilier



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:20   

MSc Invertebrate zoology (insect taxonomy) publications in medical imaging.

"ABD is not a Degree."

fusilier
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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:50   

I really think the poll should distinguish between real degrees and ones from degree mills  :D

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And take nothing but a grip
With the few good books that really count
It's a necessary trip

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The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

  
ekman



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,09:07   

MS, Marine Science

MA, Science Education


But of course I could only pick one, so I represented with the science.

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,09:20   

I chose PhD in science, though I have not finished it yet. The field is evolutionary ecology, but officially it's biology and agronomy just because I work on aphids.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,10:17   

I voted earlier, but did not elaborate.  So, I have BA in Anthro, minored in beer and women.   Dug up Middle Woodland bundle burials in the summer season, and aged and sexed the population from the remains over the next 2 winters.  

Got into business and kids after graduation, and got into anti-ID area after doing some online research in Anthro just to keep in touch.  

As I said to Jeannot on his thread:   I came for the learning, stayed for the fun!

I think Dembski's a Doofus, and DaveScot is a Tard.

I like long walks on the beach, and think atheist women are hawt.

I think the posters here are the smartest, yet zaniest and coolest anywhere on the internet, and the UD posters the dumbest, yet unfunniest anywhere outside of WorldNut Daily and the Bush Whitehouse.  

As a mater of fact, if I DID go back to get the MA, it would be to research the link betweeen funny and smart, or maybe just to work on my tan in Costa Rica.

Hey!  can I get another beer over here?

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,11:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 18 2007,02:35)
I READ LOTS OF HARD SCI-FI. WHY ISN'T THIS A CHOICE? IT SHOULD BE ABOVE PHD. PLUS YOU HAVE NO BOX FOR AUTODICTOR / DELL HEALTH AND HYGIENE PROGRAM. SORT IT STORY OR YOU'LL BE SORRY.


HOMO.

:angry:

pfffft GIRL!
I DON'T NEED NO DEGREE IN TEH STAMP COLLECTING.

MY IQ IS SO FAR NORTH OF Y'ALL THE ONLY OTHER PEOPLE AROUND HERE ARE INUITS WHO WANT MY BABIES....JUST ASK NANOOK.

WHEN BILL WAS LOOKING FOR A BLOG ATTENDANT HE COULDN'T FIND ANYONE SMARTER TAHN ME AND I SAID I KNEW WHAT HE MEANT...HE JUST SIMPERED... WHATEVER THAT IS.

I'M CURRENTLY STUDYING TEXAS CHAINSAW COMMUNICATIONS AT MY RURAL HIDEAWAY.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,11:07   

(wipes tear from his eye) Oh, some of this stuff is just priceless.

   
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,12:10   

Quote
B.A. in humanities, that's me, working toward an MLIS degree.

Master of Librarianship, ID and Shimmying?

Bob

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,13:37   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 18 2007,11:10)

Quote
B.A. in humanities, that's me, working toward an MLIS degree.

Master of Librarianship, ID and Shimmying?

Bob

:D Close. Librarianship, IDotry and Shimmy-Sciency!

I shall become a historian of ID, specializing in *nudge* Dembski. I'll write his unauthorized biography, take over the Discovery Institute (I want that Discovery Institute!;), open my Museum of Creationist Thought and other American Eccentricities, and get my rocks off archiving Dembski's papers and e-mails. (No, I'll take good care of that stuff, it's history.)  :)

Someday it's gonna be so history.

@ Thought Provoker: I have so many ideas that I'm thinking of hiring out some of my thinking.  :p

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,14:03   

I'm just glad that Leader gave us back our polling privileges. We will not sin again, Oh Spiteful One!

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,14:24   

BSc in physics, MSc in statistics.  I'm a sort of para-biologist, having worked as a biostatistician for the last fourteen years.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,14:25   

WHY IS NOT THE 'HANDBOOK OF DESIGN' AKA BIBLE UP THERE? I'M A AGNOSTIC ATHEISTICAL BUT I BELIEVE IT IS 103% WRITE.

SORT IT STORY OR YOU'LL BE SORRY.

:angry:

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Duvenoy



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,14:40   

Not much of an education and certainly no degree, here. But I read a lot, and not just on the internet....

doov

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Cyril Ponnamperuma's Foot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,15:42   

Longtime lurker decloaking.  BAFA with emphasis on stone lithography, but I've been biological all my life so I'm interested....

Stanley

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,16:46   

All apologies, Arden (or is that, all apologetics?).

My last-minute tax woes are but the last of many trite excuses why I haven't managed to curl up around the (truly fascinating) article you passed along.  Don't give up on me, though!

And last night's driving Seattle rainstorm did wonders to clear out the competition at the post office...!

Speaking of liquid, april, and seattle--aren't the Seattle AtBCers overdue for their "monthly" meeting whereat we laugh, imbibe, lampoon creationists, imbibe, shimmy, and imbibe...?

  
ecw



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,17:17   

Since I have a Bachelor of Architectural Engineering I also would have liked to have seen more choices offered.  I did “ace” my physics class, if that makes any difference.  Does that qualify me as a “wana be scientist”?


“Humpty Dumpty was pushed”

  
Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,17:53   

BA aquatic biology, UCSB

MS Integrative Biology/zoology, UCB

papers published on ontogentic color change, damselfish ecology, and shark ecology.

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mythusmage



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,18:59   

Quote (Dean Morrison @ April 17 2007,18:54)
'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

In America the process is; first you get your bs, then you get it piled higher and deeper.

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,19:13   

Quote (mythusmage @ April 18 2007,18:59)
Quote (Dean Morrison @ April 17 2007,18:54)
'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

In America the process is; first you get your bs, then you get it piled higher and deeper.

Don't forget your MS: more of same.

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,19:17   

more completely:

It's all

BullShit

but I want

More of the Same

so

Pile it higher and Deeper

oh, bill did the quick and dirty punch and beat me to it.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,19:23   

Quote (ecw @ April 18 2007,17:17)
Since I have a Bachelor of Architectural Engineering I also would have liked to have seen more choices offered.  I did “ace” my physics class, if that makes any difference.  Does that qualify me as a “wana be scientist”?

Dude, consider yourself a scientist. Heck, I did and I have a BS in Industrial Engineering and a MS in Business Management.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,20:59   

Quote (Ichthyic @ April 18 2007,18:17)
more completely:

It's all

BullShit

but I want

More of the Same

so

Pile it higher and Deeper

oh, bill did the quick and dirty punch and beat me to it.

Hehe. Ah, the humanities!

Batshit Apeshit
More F**king A**holes  :)
Poetry hack Deluded

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,23:05   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 18 2007,22:25)
WHY IS NOT THE 'HANDBOOK OF DESIGN' AKA BIBLE UP THERE? I'M A AGNOSTIC ATHEISTICAL BUT I BELIEVE IT IS 103% WRITE.

SORT IT STORY OR YOU'LL BE SORRY.

:angry:

WHOEVER SAID THAT IS MAKING IT UP.

YOU KNOW I SAID "WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE A BUNCH OF DONKEY LOVING SAND FARMERS?" OR "THE GREATEST ID SCIENTIST WE HAVE ... BILL 'THE Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf* OF INFORMATION THEORY' DEMBSKI?" WHO SAYS "WE WILL NAIL DARWIN WITH OUR SCISSOR STRATEGY”...or maybe that was “WE WILL HAMMER DARWIN WITH OUR CUTTING STRATEGY.

HE'S A REBEL YOU NO, HE TAKES OFF HIS RIGHT SHOE THEN HIS RIGHT SOCK BEFORE TAKING OFF HIS LEFT SHOE. HE BRUSHES HIS TEETH 10 TIMES A DAY THAT'S WHAT REBELS DO, THEY REBEL. GET IT.

LAST WEEK I ASKED BILL WHAT NEW PLAN HE HAD TO MAKE ID BULLET PROOF. YOU NO WHAT HE SAID?

“WE WILL PUT ID ON A MOTORIZED SKATE BOARD AND MOVE IT ROUND SO FAST NO BULLETS WILL GET IT. IT’S CALLED 'MOVING ID SO FAST NO BULLETS WILL GET IT STRATEGY'

‘BRILLIANT’ I SAID, YOU CAN USE MY CHAINSAW FUEL; I HAVE LOTS, IN CASE GLOBAL WARMING IS TRUE.

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M.S.S.

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mitschlag



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2007,16:20   

I'm an MD.  Does that count as chopped liver?

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2007,17:35   

Quote (mitschlag @ April 19 2007,16:20)
I'm an MD.  Does that count as chopped liver?

It certainly qualifies you TO chop liver. So climb aboard.

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- David Foster Wallace

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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2007,19:08   

I have a high school diploma from an American high school. Which means that, for all intents and purposes, I'm completely uneducated. I'm lucky I'm not functionally illiterate.

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2007,22:09   

Am I the only extinguished distinguished graduate here from that bombastic bastion of Creationist bashing
By Bayou University? :p

Offering advanced degrees in

Biblical Babble
Creation Engineering
Creation Science Methodology, Obfuscatory Mis-Direction
Creation Science Theory, Cranial-Rectal Insertion
Emotional Arguments, Data Denial
Global Geologic Flooding, Miraculous Origin
Inappropriate Nudity
Obfuscatorial Neologismystics, Hyperpresumptuous Creationism

and a wealth of others.

 
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BY BAYOU UNIVERSITY
Your Diploma Mill on the Web
Our mission statement

We at By Bayou University strive to give our custom students the highest quality diploma at a reasonable price, while maintaining a constant inflow of beer money. The quality of our diplomas meets or exceeds that of diploma mills operating out of the basements of churches anywhere. We require no statement of faith or oaths of fidelity. While we offer degrees at the Associate, Bachelor and Master level, you may skip these and go directly to the Doctorate.

By Bayou U. has become an institution of truly international character, counting among our graduates five Canadians, three Brits, four Australians, two South Africans, and one Scot and one Thai. By Bayou U. even has graduates from California and north of the Mason Dixon Line.

   * No inconvenient residency requirements
   * No annoying advisor sessions
   * No lengthy registration process
   * No prerequisites
   * No time consuming undergraduate work
   * No religious oaths
   * No classes
   * No papers to write
   * No stressful exams
   * No counting credits
   * No pants - if it's important to you



BBU Distinguished Graduates List

   
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Occam's Aftershave:   Doctor of Creationist Engineering, Feynmanian Astrodynamics


BBU....an oldie but a goody.  :)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2007,22:28   

Quote

Am I the only extinguished distinguished graduate here from that bombastic bastion of Creationist bashing
By Bayou University? :p


You didn't read the graduates list closely, did you?

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2007,12:36   

BA - Theatre performance

with masters classes in clown theatre, juggling, mime, and stilt-walking.

This makes me qualified to drink beer, throw knives, and live in a cardboard box (simultaneously, though--that's the skill part).

I also completed 108 hours of an aerospace engineering program, before making my mom proud and becoming an actor.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2007,12:42   

Quote (blipey @ April 20 2007,12:36)
...with masters classes in clown theatre...

On second thoughts, mentioning WAD, DaveTard or the DI here would be just too easy.

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2007,22:09   

Quote (JohnW @ April 20 2007,12:42)
Quote (blipey @ April 20 2007,12:36)
...with masters classes in clown theatre...

On second thoughts, mentioning WAD, DaveTard or the DI here would be just too easy.

Well, yes.  While WAD does many things poorly, I think he does "street theatre" worse than anything he's "tried".  This, of course, might have something to do with the fact that he's not really doing any theatre--street or otherwise.

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And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Nullifidian



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2007,12:00   

Quote (blipey @ April 20 2007,12:36)
BA - Theatre performance

with masters classes in clown theatre, juggling, mime, and stilt-walking.

This makes me qualified to drink beer, throw knives, and live in a cardboard box (simultaneously, though--that's the skill part).

I always thought an unemployed mime would live on the streets in a glass box.

My own background is a B.S. in cell biology and biochemistry, UCSD.
Currently working toward an MSc/MA in molecular cell biology and vocal performance (opera singing) at the University of Kansas.

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2007,12:09   

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My own background is a B.S. in cell biology and biochemistry, UCSD.
Currently working toward an MSc/MA in molecular cell biology and vocal performance (opera singing) at the University of Kansas.


And you'd move from San Diego to Lawrence for, ubwuh, wakkawakkawakka, why?

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Gary Bohn



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2007,12:34   

Quote (Dean Morrison @ April 17 2007,18:54)
'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

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'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'


The same holds for Canada.

The poll leaves those of us with a degree in the sciences and a degree in the humanities only half there.

  
huwp



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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2007,08:13   

BA in French and Italian.

Arts graduates are people too!

huwp

  
mikiebob



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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2007,16:29   

I answered "I Done Readed a Lot on the Internets" but I also have a Juris Doctor, which means I are a lawyer. :D

  
MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2007,07:37   

Quote (mikiebob @ April 24 2007,16:29)
I answered "I Done Readed a Lot on the Internets" but I also have a Juris Doctor, which means I are a lawyer. :D

Are you a source of free legal advice?  :D

And welcome.

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And take nothing but a grip
With the few good books that really count
It's a necessary trip

I'll be gone with the girl in the gold silk jacket
The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,14:26   

I went to tech school where they gave me a MS in Marine Science -kind of a cross between marine biology and environmental science. Times have changed.

But my education was in the 60s/70's with a BFA/BA Ceramics/Political Science and all the nessessary chemistry to make that happen. Didn't want to go to war man :).

And I learned everything I really needed to know in kindergarten.   :)

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Fractatious



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2007,07:11   

PHD Mathematics (Patriot University)
PHD Molecular Biology (Patriot University)

Honour Student for the Assembly of God - Patriot University.

(un)successful tax evasion but I own dino's.



:O

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2007,08:04   

Quote (BWE @ May 04 2007,22:26)
I went to tech school where they gave me a MS in Marine Science -kind of a cross between marine biology and environmental science. Times have changed.

But my education was in the 60s/70's with a BFA/BA Ceramics/Political Science and all the nessessary chemistry to make that happen. Didn't want to go to war man :).

And I learned everything I really needed to know in kindergarten.   :)

Oh a smarty pants eh?

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2007,11:51   

Quote (k.e @ May 07 2007,08:04)
Quote (BWE @ May 04 2007,22:26)

And I learned everything I really needed to know in kindergarten.   :)

Oh a smarty pants eh?

My pants are smarter than your pants you joyce-quoting homo.

(I'm working my way up to the good stuff)

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,03:11   

Quote (BWE @ May 07 2007,19:51)
Quote (k.e @ May 07 2007,08:04)
Quote (BWE @ May 04 2007,22:26)

And I learned everything I really needed to know in kindergarten.   :)

Oh a smarty pants eh?

My pants are smarter than your pants you joyce-quoting homo.

(I'm working my way up to the good stuff)

Dang can't find my Fineheathens Wait.



Three quorks for mister bwe, off with his pants!

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,03:46   

Well, maybe not but I've got "Portrait of a fukkin homo as a young man" Sittin right here and it's got all you damn pix on it.

Naked.


Hmmm.


Not sure that one worked out quite right there...

I'm working on not sleeping much tonight. So far - so good.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
k.e



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Joined: Mar. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,05:26   

Quote (BWE @ May 08 2007,11:46)
Well, maybe not but I've got "Portrait of a fukkin homo as a young man" Sittin right here and it's got all you damn pix on it.

Naked.


Hmmm.


Not sure that one worked out quite right there...

I'm working on not sleeping much tonight. So far - so good.

"The Portrait" of a young BWE as a smarty pants.

The feckless freckle finkled frankly, following unfinking but friskly.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
Richard Simons



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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,21:07   

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BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK,

'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

When I was a student at Bangor, Wales, they awarded a degree of Bachelor of Forestry. One former student asked them to change it to B.Sc. as he did not like having the letters BF after his name. The Registrar wrote back saying he quite saw the point, but felt that in the case of that particular student BF was more appropriate. At least, that was the story.

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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,21:48   

I went to Imperial, and you could get an ARCS (silent c) and a DIC.

:D

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If I fly the coop some time
And take nothing but a grip
With the few good books that really count
It's a necessary trip

I'll be gone with the girl in the gold silk jacket
The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

  
ScaryFacts



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2007,22:39   

I HAVE A PHD IN KICKIN' ASS AND TAKIN' NAMES - YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

Davetard

   
PennyBright



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2007,20:04   

hrmph.

Two years of HS at a hoity toity private school.  Transferred to a not-so-great public school system,  put in three months of hell,  and "home schooled".  I'd use the word autodidact, but it's been tainted by tard.

Talked my way into an early admission to the local U, finished two years (no degree) and left school.  Anyone care to talk about the insane costs of education these days?

Depending on the rhetorical needs of a given argument I can have,   "dropped out of HS - so if I can get this concept, you with your college education shouldn't have any problem" ,  or "studied that a little bit in college,  but didn't really get into depth with it."

I answered the poll "High School".

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2007,22:35   

BA in Math

One year of graduate work in Math, no degree.

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2007,23:21   

Quote (khan @ May 31 2007,22:35)
BA in Math

One year of graduate work in Math, no degree.

Welcome, kahn. Your homepage?

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,06:29   

Quote (PennyBright @ May 31 2007,20:04)
it's been tainted by tard.

What a lovely phrase.  Sorta just rolls off the tongue.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,16:40   

Quote (Richardthughes @ May 31 2007,23:21)
Quote (khan @ May 31 2007,22:35)
BA in Math

One year of graduate work in Math, no degree.

Welcome, kahn. Your homepage?

No.

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,17:06   

richard-

go easy, he's not used to your sense of humor yet.

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-CC

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,19:40   

Ahm gettin moor eddicated all teh tiem.

Spellins a reel strawng pint.

  
qetzal



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,19:56   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ June 01 2007,19:40)
Ahm gettin moor eddicated all teh tiem.

Spellins a reel strawng pint.

You're being taught by a Moor?

Kewl!

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2007,21:09   

Quote (khan @ June 01 2007,16:40)
Quote (Richardthughes @ May 31 2007,23:21)
Quote (khan @ May 31 2007,22:35)
BA in Math

One year of graduate work in Math, no degree.

Welcome, kahn. Your homepage?

No.

oh...

:(

It's in my favourites.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
mcstew



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,05:03   

Lame first post in the most neutral thread on the board =) go undergrad students go.

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,07:44   

Lesson: How to clear a (virtual) room quickly:

1. Bachelor of Civil Law
2. Solicitor, Republic of Ireland
3. Solicitor, England and Wales


Hello? Is there anyone . . .

Oh never mind.

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Ra-Úl



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,12:30   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 24 2008,07:44)
Lesson: How to clear a (virtual) room quickly:

1. Bachelor of Civil Law
2. Solicitor, Republic of Ireland
3. Solicitor, England and Wales


Hello? Is there anyone . . .

Oh never mind.

What is a BCL? I'm not familiar with British jurisprudence and Law studies, and what I do know is based on reading way too much Dickens, in Spanish translation, as a 12 year old. I see you are a solicitor; what kind of practice do you have? As a solicitor, do you deal with criminal matters? And what do solicitors drink?

Ra-Ul

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Lowell



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,13:14   

I'm an attorney in the U.S., so I voted as Phd, humanities, like steviepinhead.

I'm starting to rethink that. Even if it's technically a "Juris Doctor" degree, it's only four years, no dissertation or anything like that.

Then again, the concept of elevating form over substance is not entirely alien to me.

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dnmlthr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,13:36   

Undergrad, CS. Black belt in smack talk.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,14:32   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Mar. 24 2008,12:30)
 
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 24 2008,07:44)
Lesson: How to clear a (virtual) room quickly:

1. Bachelor of Civil Law
2. Solicitor, Republic of Ireland
3. Solicitor, England and Wales


Hello? Is there anyone . . .

Oh never mind.

What is a BCL? I'm not familiar with British jurisprudence and Law studies, and what I do know is based on reading way too much Dickens, in Spanish translation, as a 12 year old. I see you are a solicitor; what kind of practice do you have? As a solicitor, do you deal with criminal matters? And what do solicitors drink?

Ra-Ul

The 'Civil' refers neither to manner (lawyers have no need of them) nor to Napoleonic legal systems. It just points out that the degree course is centred mainly on non-criminal law.

I no longer practise law, but before I got better I used to practise commercial law, specialising in European Union law and Competition. I never did any criminal work.

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,14:33   

Solicitors drink whatever you can afford.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:05   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 24 2008,14:32)
I never did any criminal work.

Ah, too bad.  I think the producers of Expelled might be able to use your services soon.

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Assassinator



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:17   

Finished high school last year, busy atm with a Bachelor in Bio-Informatics although it's not sure I'm finishing that (I found out I hate programming). Maybe I'll quite and start a Bachelor in journalism, still talking/working with my study-councelor.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:31   

Quote (Assassinator @ Mar. 24 2008,15:17)
Finished high school last year, busy atm with a Bachelor in Bio-Informatics although it's not sure I'm finishing that (I found out I hate programming). Maybe I'll quite and start a Bachelor in journalism, still talking/working with my study-councelor.

You could look majoring in Pompous Windbag and Clueless Douche - Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh won't be around forever, you know.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Assassinator



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:38   

Well at least I got O'Reilly's book Learning Python (but I've never heard from Rush Limbaugh), and I'll keep that (not like most students who stop after 1 year and sell there books on Ebay). So even if a certain interest in programming would return, I can pick it up with some help from friends and books. I just don't think that Bio-Informatics is my "thing", shame though but you can't really expect a 17 year old to immediatly know what he wants to do for the rest of his life.

PS: I'm not really sure if I should feel slightly insulted by that post J-Dog ;)

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:13   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Mar. 24 2008,18:30)
{SNIP}

And what do solicitors drink?

Ra-Ul

Advocaat.

Louis

(Hat Tip to the Late Great Alan Coren)

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:14   

My sister in law goes to Uni next year and is thinking of reading Bio-Engineering.

So if anyone wants their cat welded...

Louis

P.S. Well *I* thought it was a good joke.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,17:17   

Quote (Assassinator @ Mar. 24 2008,15:38)
Well at least I got O'Reilly's book Learning Python (but I've never heard from Rush Limbaugh), and I'll keep that (not like most students who stop after 1 year and sell there books on Ebay). So even if a certain interest in programming would return, I can pick it up with some help from friends and books. I just don't think that Bio-Informatics is my "thing", shame though but you can't really expect a 17 year old to immediatly know what he wants to do for the rest of his life.

PS: I'm not really sure if I should feel slightly insulted by that post J-Dog ;)

No Don't feel insulted!  I was insulting BillO and Rush, but actually you're right they ARE too easy targets... Now I think I am insulted.  If I keep on insulting myself and shooting myself in the foot, I will have to go over to the DarkSide at uD!

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
mcstew



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,20:24   

Quote (Assassinator @ Mar. 24 2008,15:38)
Well at least I got O'Reilly's book Learning Python (but I've never heard from Rush Limbaugh), and I'll keep that (not like most students who stop after 1 year and sell there books on Ebay). So even if a certain interest in programming would return, I can pick it up with some help from friends and books. I just don't think that Bio-Informatics is my "thing", shame though but you can't really expect a 17 year old to immediatly know what he wants to do for the rest of his life.

PS: I'm not really sure if I should feel slightly insulted by that post J-Dog ;)

I'm in first year medical science after trying commerce (almost lasted 45 minutes of the first lecture before I realized that mistake), Archaeology, Biological science and obtaining CCNP/MCSE/SCP IT certifications. I basically spent 3 years after I left high school looking for my niche and believe me, if you have your doubts now don't delay it, start looking for what suits you. Don't be afraid to shop around is what I'm saying I guess xD

  
dochocson



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,20:44   

Bachelor of Science, Biology (minor in Political Science)

Doctor of Medicine.

Not sure which poll choice is the best fit.

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EyeNoU



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,20:06   

I have a high school education, but I am full of BS. Where should I go?  And don't say UD..........

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,23:16   

I indulged myself in my first lecture to the first year medical students.  I would begin, “I am Doctor Hurd.  I am a real Doctor.  I have a Ph.D.  I welcome you to your studies here at the Medical College where you will receive the M.D., or Masters of Disease.”

Much booing and hissing ensued.

One of my last lectures to a medical group was titled, "I am a real doctor, but..." which was on the different roles in medical education and research played by scientists and clinicians.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,21:30   

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I indulged myself in my first lecture to the first year medical students.  I would begin, “I am Doctor Hurd.  I am a real Doctor.  I have a Ph.D.  I welcome you to your studies here at the Medical College where you will receive the M.D., or Masters of Disease.”

Much booing and hissing ensued.

One of my last lectures to a medical group was titled, "I am a real doctor, but..." which was on the different roles in medical education and research played by scientists and clinicians.

I think the PhD student vs MD student war has been going on since the beginning of time.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,23:35   

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Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 25 2008,23:16)
I indulged myself in my first lecture to the first year medical students.  I would begin, “I am Doctor Hurd.  I am a real Doctor.  I have a Ph.D.  I welcome you to your studies here at the Medical College where you will receive the M.D., or Masters of Disease.”

Much booing and hissing ensued.

One of my last lectures to a medical group was titled, "I am a real doctor, but..." which was on the different roles in medical education and research played by scientists and clinicians.

I think the PhD student vs MD student war has been going on since the beginning of time.

And so it shall ever be.  I had a colleague once ask why the Ph.D.s out numbered the MDs at one medical school I taught at.  I said, "Because medical care is too important to leave to MDs."

If you add in all the scientists in the pharma industry and the MPHs running most hospitals, medical doctors are not the top of the medical profession.

This could actually be a major fuck-up caused by the narrowness of the medical school curriculum.  People with the personality and skills to be scientists are not let into medical school anymore.  Small minded linear thinkers good at memorization become MDs.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 30 2008,21:40

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2008,19:32   

no choice for us weirdos who have both a ba and a bs.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2008,22:40   

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no choice for us weirdos who have both a ba and a bs.

I have the same problem.

I found that a Guinness, a small bottle of lotion and an understanding wife fix the problem right up.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2008,23:53   

Yes, GH, but the other side of that is most science PhDs have the personalty of stale bread and couldn't carry on a conversation with a patient if they were given a script...present company excluded, of course.

  
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Yes, GH, but the other side of that is most science PhDs have the personalty of stale bread and couldn't carry on a conversation with a patient if they were given a script...present company excluded, of course.

Have you ever looked at stale bread under a microscope? That's a lively bunch there!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2008,04:08   

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Yes, GH, but the other side of that is most science PhDs have the personalty of stale bread and couldn't carry on a conversation with a patient if they were given a script...present company excluded, of course.

There speaks someone who must have simply never met many people with PhDs.

The more obivously loathesome colleagues aside, I have to say that a lot of my similarly qualified colleagues are a good laugh. There's bad apples in every bunch of course, but the majority of them I find to be intelligent, witty, and in many if not most cases quite outgoing and interesting. I've yet to work anywhere where I cannot find a PhD qualified person who I would love to go out for a beer with and can play squash with of an evening. The "geeky scientist" sterotype is wholly inaccurate. Like most successful people, successful scientists generally enjoy the other qualities that go along with it. You certainly cannot rise in the pharma industry (for example) by being some hopeless geek with the social graces of a salted slug.

In fact in my experience chemistry PhDs are bigger party animals than their medical MD colleagues. We drink more and party a lot harder. (I foresee many jokes from the Tarden/Nolarjcoks axis) Probably because of the intense damage already done to our livers by lab work!

As for dealing with patients, big deal, it really isn't that hard. Just remember they are a) individual human beings like you, and b) probably quite scared. Rocket science it ain't, and yes, I have had to do it on occasion (I volunteered in a hospital for some years in my spare time, helping out the medics with drug queries and the like).

I remember FTK's comment about her being a tough blonde girly who could kick our pointdexter asses, or some such drivel. Well, we already knew FTK was an ignorant slattern who buys into every ignorant sterotype going, but it's this sort of thing that makes me laugh whenever I encounter it. It's such an obvious piece of fear based psychological defense: "Oh no he's a scientist, that means he's probably quite bright, oh no that means I might be less bright than him, quick, look for a flaw I can exploit, well that Stephen Hawking's a scientist, he's in a wheelchair and no good at sports, I reckon I could kick his arse, so other scientists must be like that". Or perhaps "Oh no he's a scientist, that means he's probably quite bright, oh no that means I might be less bright than him, quick, look for a flaw I can exploit, well I knew a kid at school who liked science and we used to call him a geek and he had no friends because he was quiet and spoddy, so other scientists must be like that."

My only reply to these stereotype touting bozos is: Yawn, wake me when you are in possession of something resembling a clue.

Louis

P.S. Incidentally, the "war between MDs and PhDs" is dick waving. Funny on occasion, but pointless nonetheless. From a scientific standpoint there are gorss holes in an MD's training, but then MD's aren't scientists, and a lot of people seem to forget that. MD's are trained for a very different job, and one that they do by and large very well. At least here in Europe, which is a civilised part of the world. ;-)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2008,17:50   

High school only, and I try my best to self-educate with all the problems that entails!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 04 2008,17:17   

I agree wholeheartedly with Louis. The PhDs I have met have for the most part been very likable folk. They were always as much fun at social events as everyone else. I have only a high school education, but throughout my life I have been an avid reader, especially non-fiction. The people with advanced degrees I have met have always been more than willing to explain things I didn't understand if it was in their field of study. There was definitely no shortage of hard partying folk, that's for sure.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2008,21:16   

It appears, as usual that Louis and I do not agree.  The unique PhD is one who is both socially adept and possessing of superior communication skills.  These are the ones who succeed and the others are a dime a dozen.  Next time you're at a conference just take a real hard look around and if you don't spot the awkwardness immediately then you're just not being objective.  A good example, look at your own company and examine the senior executives or vps, or whatever you guys call them and count how many PhDs are there.  1 maybe 2 and then look at the caliber of those two compared to the average Organic Chem PhD teaching three classes a week and scraping by on a research budget.  In fact, take that comparison one step further, in my country at least, and look at Congress and count the number of PhDs.  I hope you see what I'm trying to say even though I know we're not going to agree.  But then again how much fun is that?  Who wants to kill two threads in the same month, lol.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2008,21:27   

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2008,21:29   

A JD, or a DDiv would I suppose go in the humanities category. Actually, the US Congress had a fair number of PhDs and MDs, compared to the general population.  There are far more lawyers, but the business of Congress is the law.  I am not surprised that most Judges are lawyers.

Community Colleges are a great educational bargain that I support wholeheartedly.  They are also full of faculty that washed out of graduate school with a terminal masters degree. They tell themselves they are "better" teachers because they could not survive in research science.  In my student experience, the best researchers make the best teachers.  I had the publications and teaching awards to match my assertion.  I was also sacked from a community college the same year I was named "teacher of the year" and had 11 undergraduates coauthor research papers with me.  Being good is not popular among second rank faculty.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,03:24   

Quote (skeptic @ April 08 2008,03:16)
It appears, as usual that Louis and I do not agree.  The unique PhD is one who is both socially adept and possessing of superior communication skills.  These are the ones who succeed and the others are a dime a dozen.  Next time you're at a conference just take a real hard look around and if you don't spot the awkwardness immediately then you're just not being objective.  A good example, look at your own company and examine the senior executives or vps, or whatever you guys call them and count how many PhDs are there.  1 maybe 2 and then look at the caliber of those two compared to the average Organic Chem PhD teaching three classes a week and scraping by on a research budget.  In fact, take that comparison one step further, in my country at least, and look at Congress and count the number of PhDs.  I hope you see what I'm trying to say even though I know we're not going to agree.  But then again how much fun is that?  Who wants to kill two threads in the same month, lol.

And this seperates PhDs from the rest of humanity just how precisely? Most PEOPLE are socially inept, clueless drones! PhD's just have a title!

There's not much there I disagree with, and I'll confess maybe I'm lucky by virtue of where I did my PhD and postdoc work because I got to work with some incredible people. My industrial experience is also pretty good.

I'm not denying that the socially inept exist (far from it! I've met them too!) but how many NON-PhD people are senior VPs (as if that is the be all and end all of acheivement!) of pharma companies? The Non-PhD category is far far larger than the PhD category and far fewer (as a percentage) make it to the higher management levels. In the companies I've worked for between 100% and 60% of the ultra senior people have had PhDs (not all in chemistry I stress).

Politics and PhDs: we need more of them! Sadly the sort of people who want to do politics are not always the sort of people who do PhDs. That's no criticism of either. We don't have a system in place which values that qualification in politics, i.e. an ambitious young potential politician has no need to do a PhD to get ahead, in fact it could even take time away from other valuable work they can do to further their career. Again, being a politician or a businessperson is hardly the pinnacle of human acheivement in social or actual terms.

Is there a different skill set? Of course! That's no more significant than saying that a butcher has a different skill set from a carpenter, and one person might be more suited for one role rather than t'other. Having a PhD is a) nothing that precludes a person from being socially adept or b) some kind of mark of nebbishness.

Frankly Skeptic I reckon you're just exercising the quite obvious potato field sized chip on your shoulder because you don't have a PhD. I've heard this tune from others before, and I've never heard it from anyone who wasn't a bitter inadequate. The smart people just get on with things and never worry about the qualifications of others. There's an old Texan saying "just because someone's smarter than you, doesn't make it their fault". Has it ever occured that some people don't go into senior management because they are utterly uninterested in being some paper pushing corporate entity? Life in the lab, even at a very senior level, has it's advantages you know. Especially now most companies offer advancement down more than one career track (i.e. management and/or research).

Louis

P.S. Incidentally there IS a (decreasing) glass ceiling in the pharma industry. It seems in some companies you have to have a PhD to be taken seriously regardless of how good you are or not. Personally I find this abominable, and luckily most of the places I've worked don't have this culture. The place I've worked that was the best, perhaps ironically, is Pfizer (admittedly Pfizer UK). They have an eminently egalitarian and meritocratic attitude. Two of my former (very senior) bosses there had come in as graduates, no PhDs, and both were stunningly brilliant. One of them is quite probably the most knowledgable chemist/scientist I've ever met. He was awesomely informed, incredile at recalling detail and nuances of very subtle science, and sharper than a lemon juice soaked razor. Not much of a drinker though! ;-)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,03:29   

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[SNIP]

In my student experience, the best researchers make the best teachers.

[SNIP]

I'd agree to an extent. I find the drive to seperate teaching and research in academia to be a bloody stupid one. You don't understand an idea until you've had to explain it to an 18 year old undergrad who is not interested in the subject and highly interested in the girl/boy two feet away from him/her.

The comparatively little teaching/TAing/demonstrating I did at university and the vastly larger amount of mentoring I've done in industry have caused me to have to explain some tricky stuff on occasion. Stuff I thought I knew....until I had to explain it. The number of good ideas (i.e. ideas that worked) for my reserach I have had in the middle of an explanation are huge. In fact I recommend teaching someone about a research topic as a way of generating new ideas.

YMMV

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,08:12   

Quote (Louis @ April 08 2008,03:24)
Frankly Skeptic I reckon you're just exercising the quite obvious potato field sized chip on your shoulder because you don't have a PhD. I've heard this tune from others before, and I've never heard it from anyone who wasn't a bitter inadequate. The smart people just get on with things and never worry about the qualifications of others. There's an old Texan saying "just because someone's smarter than you, doesn't make it their fault". Has it ever occured that some people don't go into senior management because they are utterly uninterested in being some paper pushing corporate entity? Life in the lab, even at a very senior level, has it's advantages you know. Especially now most companies offer advancement down more than one career track (i.e. management and/or research).

Louis

Louis!

Are you okay?  A bit under the weather?

You missed a great opportunity for an asterisk:

There's an old Texan saying "just because someone's smarter than you, doesn't make it their fault".*


* Unless you live in Texas on a houseboat, have an IQ of 100+ 120+   250+ and conduct daily experiments on the caloric content of Cheesy Poofs.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,09:00   

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Quote (Louis @ April 08 2008,03:24)
Frankly Skeptic I reckon you're just exercising the quite obvious potato field sized chip on your shoulder because you don't have a PhD. I've heard this tune from others before, and I've never heard it from anyone who wasn't a bitter inadequate. The smart people just get on with things and never worry about the qualifications of others. There's an old Texan saying "just because someone's smarter than you, doesn't make it their fault". Has it ever occured that some people don't go into senior management because they are utterly uninterested in being some paper pushing corporate entity? Life in the lab, even at a very senior level, has it's advantages you know. Especially now most companies offer advancement down more than one career track (i.e. management and/or research).

Louis

Louis!

Are you okay?  A bit under the weather?

You missed a great opportunity for an asterisk:

There's an old Texan saying "just because someone's smarter than you, doesn't make it their fault".*


* Unless you live in Texas on a houseboat, have an IQ of 100+ 120+   250+ and conduct daily experiments on the caloric content of Cheesy Poofs.

I haven't been myself lately.

But enough about my personal life!

Ancient Chinese Proverb: Man with dick in biscuit tin feels crumby all day

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P.S. Man with hole in pocket feels cocky all day.

P.P.S. I used to think Wanking was a town in China until I discovered Smirnoff (references antique vodka ad in the UK). I also used to think Muffin the Mule was a sex offence until I discovered Smirnoff.

P.P.P.S. I missed an opportunity for a footnote of some description. OH THE HUGE MANATEE!

{hangs head in shame}

I just can't manage a D'Tard style TARD-O-LOGUE, I'm too disappointed in self. Suffice to say it would have involved such diverse elements as: ALL SCIENCE SO FAR, MAN-BREASTS, CLOWN FEAR, ESKIMO WOMEN, MY ENORMOUS ATTRACTIVENESS TO SEX:OPPOSITE, THE FACT THAT I AM AN AUTODILDO WITH AN RPM OF SOMEWHERE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF 150. I just can't bring myself to do it. Having missed a classic footnotary I must now commit seppuku with a sharpened appendix.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,09:02   

Quote (Louis @ April 08 2008,03:29)
I'd agree to an extent. I find the drive to seperate teaching and research in academia to be a bloody stupid one. You don't understand an idea until you've had to explain it to an 18 year old undergrad who is not interested in the subject and highly interested in the girl/boy two feet away from him/her.

Some random thoughts, bearing in mind it is a few years since I left uni and I didn't know anything then.*

In theory, splitting teaching and research might be good, if you therefore had good, trained teachers effectively teaching students more of the basic stuff they need to know.  In reality, what it would mean is minimum wage knowledge regurgitation, because that is all the gvt is willing to pay for.  Then for research, in my opinion, too much university research these days is oriented towards commercial gain.  I say let the companies do their own damned research, that will give the graduates jobs to do after they finish uni.  



* This is another rant of mine- some bodies, especially regulatory ones, think it is perfectly sensible to recruit new graduates.  No, it isn't.  New graduates are innocent and know nothing, so will completely miss the stuff they are supposed to pick up on, eg the fact that a company is putting lots of phenol down the drain.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,09:17   

Phenol? Down the drain?

The chemist in me applauds. The person minimally acquainted with health and safety in me has gone a pale shade and hidden under the desk.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,10:55   

Its alright, it was about 2.9 tonnes diluted in 20,000 tonnes of water per year.
Somehow nobody worked out that a moulding process involving the use of phenol-formaldehyde resin in water would lead to significant amounts of phenol going down the drain.
Or, more likely, they were short staffed and we were low on their list, because we weren't killing off the sewage works.  Every drain on our site leads to the sewage works, fortunately, otherwise we would have been prosecuted for something by now.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,10:59   

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Its alright, it was about 2.9 tonnes diluted in 20,000 tonnes of water per year.
Somehow nobody worked out that a moulding process involving the use of phenol-formaldehyde resin in water would lead to significant amounts of phenol going down the drain.
Or, more likely, they were short staffed and we were low on their list, because we weren't killing off the sewage works.  Every drain on our site leads to the sewage works, fortunately, otherwise we would have been prosecuted for something by now.

LOL Killing off the on site sewage works (or rather the bacteria in them for chomping the waste) was something of a game at one instiitution that shall remain nameless.

It's not big and it's not clever.

{frowns disapprovingly whilst trying not to laugh}

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,12:33   

The SCottish water sewage works serves probably a few hundred thousand people.  We are not about to kill it off, fortunately, otherwise they'd have fined us.  At the new site we have a water treatment plant to get rid of most of the Phenol.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,23:39   

smartest sombitch i know never finished fifth grade.

that ain't no shit.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2008,15:02   

Massive cleanup on aisle five.



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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2008,21:05   

Before it becomes a huge pain again...



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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2008,08:20   

dang, slapped on the wrist again! lol.

Anybody got anything to say about educational backgrounds and limitations in getting grant funding?  Maybe that will put us back on topic.

  
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