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Peter Henderson



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2009,07:46   

Dr. Andrew Parker, an Oxford University biologist,  has come off with these bizare statements:

http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2009....vention

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Dr Andrew Parker, 41, is a biologist at Oxford University. His latest book, The Genesis Enigma: Why The Bible Is Scientifically Accurate, claims the story of Genesis matches the history of the universe so accurately it could only have been written with divine intervention.
Metro

Dr Andrew Parker: The Bible got everything right
Have you proved the existence of God?
I donít think Iíve proved the existence of God. Iíve proved there is space in the universe where God might exist.

It would be quite a scoop.
Well, yes. But if I find evidence there isnít a God then as a scientist that would satisfy me too.

Isnít this another example of religion masquerading as science?
Absolutely not. I devoted most of my early career to science and leaned toward being an atheist. Thatís changed during the writing of this book, which revealed surprising parallels between Genesis and the scientific history of the universe. Not only is the sequence of events in Genesis scientifically correct but some of the events themselves are really quite precise, which would have been impossible for a human to know at that time. You have to conclude that either the author made extremely lucky guesses or something strange was going on: divine inspiration.

Thatís a massive leap, isnít it?
To say thereís something mysterious going on is probably not too great a leap. What I reveal is something beyond human intelligence, beyond testing with scientific equipment.

In Genesis, God creates the earth in six days, makes man out of dust and thereís no mention of the Big Bang. If it was written with Godís help, why is so much wrong?
Itís the authors adding their artistic interpretation, shoehorning the facts into the type of story people would be able to understand.

You say the second ĎLet there be lightÖí refers to the evolution of the eye but you edited out the rest of the line, which clearly refers to the Sun, Moon and stars. Thereís no mention in Genesis of the evolution of the eye.
Um, OK. Iíll probably have a look at this in more detail again. The first page of the Bible doesnít spell out the eye but it doesnít spell out any of the science in detail.

Your argument seems full of holes.
I would say itís the best guess with the best fit.

Is there any real evidence, or just speculation?
If you want to say itís 100 per cent evidence for God, no. With this book, there might be indirect evidence Ė itís the strongest evidence for the existence of God Iíve come across. Iím not sure how you would describe it.

Flawed.
Well, thatís an opinion and thatís something Iím interested in. Iím not trying to fool anyone. Iím just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Are science and religion irreconcilable?
The atheist movement argues that with science thereís no more room for religion. So you either have faith in religion with no rational backing whatsoever or you follow science Ė and science dictates thereís no room for God, which isnít true. There are things beyond our realm we canít solve with science.

You say creationism is harmful to both religion and science. Why?
Creationism is totally unfounded. It is as dangerous as fundamentalism in other religions.

Creationists say evolution and the Big Bang are just theories. What do you think?
The problem with calling them theories is that anything can be called a theory. It doesnít suggest the probability of it being right. On probability, you have creationism at something like 0.0001 per cent and evolution at 99.9999 per cent so itís not fair to put them in the same category.

You criticise atheism because you think itís disturbing to believe thereís no God or heaven. Just because those things might be comforting doesnít make them true, does it?
No. But what Iím saying is that if the evidence doesnít necessarily point one way or another, perhaps weíre better off with religion.


I'm not sure if this is the original interview, or an example of quotemining. However, rest assured, the statement that "genesis is scientifically correct" will be quotemined by every YEC from Kentucky to Norn' Iron. Is this guy right in the head ??? He really needs to catch himself on, as they say in these parts.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2009,07:51   

original link to metro article

a commenter says Parker is at an oxford college supported by the Templeton Foundation.

street theater, anyone?

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2009,10:35   

He joins the Order of the Burning Trousers at question 3:
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Isnít this another example of religion masquerading as science?
Absolutely not. I devoted most of my early career to science and leaned toward being an atheist. Thatís changed during the writing of this book, which revealed surprising parallels between Genesis and the scientific history of the universe..

He's leaning towards being an athiest, so he decides to write a book called The Genesis Enigma: Why The Bible Is Scientifically Accurate. †Why? †Did he lose a bet?

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,20:51   

Totally serious. I'm going to win a Templeton prize.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,03:15   

Quote (BWE @ Aug. 08 2009,04:51)
Totally serious. I'm going to win a Templeton prize.

Not before I do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOMO!!!

If Genisis was scribed by 3 million years from ape to man then dogs must have written it.

And one thing I know about dogs is that unless your ancestor was Great Big Bear Running Into A Tree that just happened to move in front of him when my ancestor Wolf Who Farts Frogs married his sister, then it was then he really wished he could write.

And do you know what he wanted to write?

That's mine so get your own.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2009,02:35   

Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 08 2009,01:15)
Quote (BWE @ Aug. 08 2009,04:51)
Totally serious. I'm going to win a Templeton prize.

Not before I do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOMO!!!

If Genisis was scribed by 3 million years from ape to man then dogs must have written it.

And one thing I know about dogs is that unless your ancestor was Great Big Bear Running Into A Tree that just happened to move in front of him when my ancestor Wolf Who Farts Frogs married his sister, then it was then he really wished he could write.

And do you know what he wanted to write?

That's mine so get your own.

um.. ok. You get that one for sure. I'll go back to the drawing board.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2009,04:08   

Quote (BWE @ Aug. 09 2009,10:35)
Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 08 2009,01:15)
Quote (BWE @ Aug. 08 2009,04:51)
Totally serious. I'm going to win a Templeton prize.

Not before I do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOMO!!!

If Genisis was scribed by 3 million years from ape to man then dogs must have written it.

And one thing I know about dogs is that unless your ancestor was Great Big Bear Running Into A Tree that just happened to move in front of him when my ancestor Wolf Who Farts Frogs married his sister, then it was then he really wished he could write.

And do you know what he wanted to write?

That's mine so get your own.

um.. ok. You get that one for sure. I'll go back to the drawing board.

Thankyou.

You can have the next one.

Here's a tip: The Templeton prize is worth no more than the sum of all it's winners grand total waste of time vs reality.

So if you really want the prize; find a way to levitate a bible in free space.

I could offer some suggestions however most are very short time solutions. About the distance over time from the tip of my extended hand to the floor I'm standing on.

'bout 10m/s/s.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2009,04:59   

What you may not realize in your exuberance to distance yourself from the ick factor of the templeton prize is this:
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The Prize is a monetary
award in the amount of £1,000,000 sterling.
http://www.templetonprize.org/abouttheprize.html

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
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