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Darth Robo

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,09:19   

The originator of the Hydroplate Theory challenges anyone, and particularly any evolutionist, who doubts his theory to a book-length written debate. His terms should appeal readily to anyone who truly believes that he can defend evolution, and to a publisher interested in a controversial subject.

The debate question is simple:

   Does the scientific evidence favor creation or evolution?


Brown offers himself to debate the creation-science side, and asks only that the leader of the evolutionary team hold a doctorate in either the basic or applied sciences. (Brown holds a doctorate in engineering, the prototypical "applied science.") Brown includes that, not to say that someone without a doctorate is unqualified, but to rule out "lack of scientific qualifications" as a reason for a poor performance in the debate by either side. When an evolutionist has agreed to participate, then and only then will the selection of an editor-moderator become appropriate.

The two sides will choose one between them at random to recruit an editor and publisher. Then the other side may either accept that editor or try to recruit one of its own to offer as an alternate. The back-and-forth nominating will continue until one side has received three nominations, at which time it must select one of the three. The qualifications for an editor-moderator are:

  1. His publishing house must have more than $10 million US in annual sales, and
  2. He must not have a strong opinion either way on the creation-evolution controversy.

(Brown next proposes to outsource the design of the book. Brown is self-published, and needed to recruit his own book-design experts. A publisher with $10 million US in annual sales almost certainly has its own art department, a fact with which Brown might not be familiar.)

Each side must then submit four manuscripts, each having 100,000 words, or the equivalent in text and graphics, with each graphic regarded as equivalent to 200 words. The submissions are due in four-months intervals, beginning four months after the two sides agree on the selection of an editor. The editor's first job is to strike from each submission all religious ideas, "unprofessional remarks," or dilatory comments. The editor must then transmit both submissions to each side within a month of receiving them. The editor also would have full authority to call an early halt to the debate if he decides that one side or the other is not participating fairly.


(YEC Terry Hurlbut, one of Conservapedia's Digg Patriots)

Who could resist such a challenge?   :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,10:15   

On a related note, I hear Alvin Greene is considering running for President in 2012.


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,10:19   

Which, of course, begs the age old question...What came first, The bullshit or the Bullshitter?

- Born right the first time.
- Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers.
- It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,11:00   

I submit:

"The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" by Gould

"I Love Jesus & I Accept Evolution" Denis O. Lamoureux

"Science, Evolution, and Creationism" National Academy of Sciences


"Abusing Science: The Case Against Creationism"
Philip Kitchner

there done... oh wait, these are already published... I wonder why he didn't read them??  [/sarcasm]

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,17:59   

Some one - ahem, rich - needs to get FTK to get Mr. Brown to put down the glue and start posting here.

Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Doc Bill

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2010,19:17   

I think Uncle Walt has been using his hydroplate to cook up some powerful "stuff" if you get my drift, continentally speaking, that is.

Get help, Walt.


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2010,13:49   

Quote (Darth Robo @ Nov. 13 2010,10:19)
The originator of the Hydroplate Theory challenges anyone, and particularly any evolutionist, who doubts his theory to a book-length written debate. {snip}

Who could resist such a challenge?   :p

Why does this look a lot like the one Joe Meert responded to 15-20 years ago?

Brown, of course, ran away from Joe's signed agreement to the terms.

James 2:24


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2010,15:46   

Quote (Darth Robo @ Nov. 13 2010,09:19)
The originator of the Hydroplate Theory challenges anyone, and particularly any evolutionist, who doubts his theory to a book-length written debate.

Stupid question: What's "new" about this challenge of Brown's? Brown has had it on offer for years and years and years, and to my knowledge, at least one person has sincerely tried to meet it, but Brown wouldn't let them...

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