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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,08:20   

Welcome to Summer everyone.

Any special plans?  Vacations?  Punking and/or poking the ID / DI monkeys?

My plans:  A Barb-B Que Rib-Fest Trip to MO / KC to visit my oldest son at Mizzou, and Midland MI to visit my daughter, busy doing chemistry stuff for Dow.

Remember:  As always, Special Bonus Points for Making Dembski and/or Behe cry.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,09:10   

We're going to Scotland, where we will meet Louis for dinner somewhere near Edinburgh, and take him and Professor Steve Steve to visit Hutton's Uncomformity at Siccar Point. Thus we will have graduated from Darwin worship to the idolatry of an even more ancient deity, James Hutton.

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,09:23   

I was going to do the July 13 Triathlon in Raleigh but I'm not quite where I need to be with the training. It would take me about 2 hrs. If I wait til August I should be down around 1hr 45 mins.

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,09:29   

Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2008,17:23)
I was going to do the July 13 Triathlon in Raleigh but I'm not quite where I need to be with the training. It would take me about 2 hrs. If I wait til August I should be down around 1hr 45 mins.

YEAH AND IF YOU WAIT 'TILL DECEMBER IT WILL BE 3 HRS, HOMO!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,09:58   

Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,10:06   

Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,17:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

YOUR ALWAYS PROMISING ONLINE SEX, WITH RICH SOUNDS.

BUT HEY IT'S A FREE WORLD, FUN INCLUDED.

WHO THE FUCK IS BRUCE? i'M JEALOUS

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,10:36   

Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,09:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

Ha!  I would think a committed Shimmiest and Darwinist Witch would want to go to Devil's Canyon.



ps - Hey!  Your Hawt Picture is not showing up anymore!  Boo! :angry:

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,12:30   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 20 2008,09:36)
 
Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,09:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

Ha!  I would think a committed Shimmiest and Darwinist Witch would want to go to Devil's Canyon.



ps - Hey!  Your Hawt Picture is not showing up anymore!  Boo! :angry:

It should be. I didn't do anything to it.

Complain to da warlock. :)

Quote (k.e.. @ June 20 2008,09:06)
WHO THE FUCK IS BRUCE? i'M JEALOUS

Butterfly into my net... :D

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,12:38   

Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,09:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

Hmm... I don't say 'zounds'

I say "Jinkies", though:



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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,12:53   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 20 2008,18:38)
Quote (Kristine @ June 20 2008,09:58)
Well, I keep promising y'all an online index, so's you don't have to page through the Uncommonly Dense thread saying, "Where is it that Rich says, 'Zounds!'"

(I'm really fun in real life.)

Maybe we'll go to Bryce Canyon.

Hmm... I don't say 'zounds'

I say "Jinkies", though:


Whoa, whoa, whoa! You're GINGER?

BURN PERSECUTE MAIM THE GINGER!!!

Louis

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Bye.

  
Chayanov



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,14:07   

No fun for me. I just finished submitting final grades for my Human Origins summer course and now it's time to work on dissertation. *sigh*

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,14:21   

Quote (Chayanov @ June 20 2008,14:07)
No fun for me. I just finished submitting final grades for my Human Origins summer course and now it's time to work on dissertation. *sigh*

Ha!  No problem!  Just tell them it's an ID Dissertation, and submit a blank report - then scream persecution when you don't get the PhD and/or Tenure.  

Pictures of Mary in Grilled Cheese Sandwiches - extra.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,14:49   

I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,14:52   

i'm killing the bejeeeesus out of bugs.

just to prove they don't fly over the mountain.

that gets me in some great chanterelle patches though.  i'll post pics when the bastards come up.

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,15:00   

Finishing recovering from glandular fever, attend various medieval re-enactment events, write stories, and burn things in my back garden.

  
argystokes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,15:18   

I'm going to teaching school, so I can join the athedarwinofascist indoctrination brigade.

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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,15:25   

Backpacking at Philmont Boy Scout Ranch with my son.

Going to Cincinnati to see my daughter get married.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,15:39   

Quote (argystokes @ June 20 2008,15:18)
I'm going to teaching school, so I can join the athedarwinofascist indoctrination brigade.

Congratulations!  Gee, I remember my initial indoctrination...

What are the current rules on how many churches you have to burn down to attain full membership?

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,15:50   

Quote (guthrie @ June 20 2008,15:00)
Finishing recovering from glandular fever, attend various medieval re-enactment events, write stories, and burn things in my back garden.

"medieval re-enactment events"

Like weighing ducks and witches?  

"and burn things in my back garden."

Like Christian Baby Bonfires?

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
silverspoon



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,16:25   

Heading out at the end of next week for a few days in the Blue Ridge with my grandkids. He’s 6 and she’s 3. I plan on doing everything in my power to teach them counter to the Wedge Strategy by:

1) Not replacing materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and
human beings are created by God.

2) That ten states have not begun to rectify ideological imbalance in their science curricula by including creationist arguments against evolution, nor have they included design guessing in their classrooms.

And

3) Design has not become a concept in the social sciences legal reform movements base legislative proposals on design theory, which sounds eerily like lawyers could legally argue that Satan made his/her client do it a justifiable defense for acquittal of any crime.


Then we’ll roast marshmallows.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,16:30   

Ah, Philmont!  2003 and 2005 went there I did.  Learned the meaning of the word "up."

This summer I'm going to learn how to edit with Final Cut Express.  Hollywood, here I come.

  
Chayanov



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,16:57   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 20 2008,14:21)
Quote (Chayanov @ June 20 2008,14:07)
No fun for me. I just finished submitting final grades for my Human Origins summer course and now it's time to work on dissertation. *sigh*

Ha!  No problem!  Just tell them it's an ID Dissertation, and submit a blank report - then scream persecution when you don't get the PhD and/or Tenure.  

Pictures of Mary in Grilled Cheese Sandwiches - extra.

That would be funny if it wasn't true.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,18:43   

I just came of a fishing boat. Slow day. There was a fellow next to me who had a lure he had never used. I gave him som coaching and he caught a 12lb halibut. I had two good fish on, but lost them both. I ended up with just 2 bass ~2 lbs each.

Monday will be better.

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L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,18:48   

Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,19:32   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

T ardaholics of
A merica
M eeting?

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2008,19:38   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 20 2008,15:21)
Quote (Chayanov @ June 20 2008,14:07)
No fun for me. I just finished submitting final grades for my Human Origins summer course and now it's time to work on dissertation. *sigh*

Ha!  No problem!  Just tell them it's an ID Dissertation, and submit a blank report - then scream persecution when you don't get the PhD and/or Tenure.  

Pictures of Mary in Grilled Cheese Sandwiches - extra.

Wouldn't work. His adviser would say, "Yeah right. You published two or three papers in the last few years, so you're clearly not an ID loser. Get back to work bitch!"

   
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,01:17   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,05:44   

Quote (keiths @ June 21 2008,02:17)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

Thanks keiths.

Yeah, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is there, Randi's there, all the Skepchicks, the BadAstronomer, Adam Savage, Shermer, PZ...

It's quite a guest list.  I really wanted to go.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,07:42   

Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:44)
 
Quote (keiths @ June 21 2008,02:17)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
     
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 20 2008,12:49)
I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

Thanks keiths.

Yeah, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is there, Randi's there, all the Skepchicks, the BadAstronomer, Adam Savage, Shermer, PZ...

It's quite a guest list.  I really wanted to go.

TAM looks like it might be better than drugs.

I found this on TAM guest rapper Greydon Square's myspace page



and this ...i love it so


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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,15:55   

Quote (k.e.. @ June 21 2008,08:42)
Quote (Lou FCD @ June 21 2008,13:44)
   
Quote (keiths @ June 21 2008,02:17)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 20 2008,18:48)
       
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I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

Thanks keiths.

Yeah, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is there, Randi's there, all the Skepchicks, the BadAstronomer, Adam Savage, Shermer, PZ...

It's quite a guest list.  I really wanted to go.

TAM looks like it might be better than drugs.

I found this on TAM guest rapper Greydon Square's myspace page



and this ...i love it so

I'm totally down that I can't go.

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fusilier



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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,15:34   

Same as every summer, Pinkie, Conquer the WORLD torture a bunch of students who won't believe me that they shouldn't take ANP* in the summer - and defend New France from les cochonchien Anglais on the weekends.




*Just finished the second major exams, today.

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Nomad



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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,17:00   

Well I have an interesting option coming up.  At the end of the week I'm heading out to DC for a little good old fashioned touristy fun.  Smithsonian, here I come!

Also there'll be a few days at Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, and a trip to Colonial Williamsburg as well for some historical re-enactment fun.  Also I expect to be having my brains baked to oblivion by the sun, the weather forecast is sounding hot.

But I have an option mixed in there.  Next week is the start of this big NEA (National Education Association, basically the teacher's union) convention event that's also held in DC.  I'm not a teacher or anything, my only association with it is that my mother is a member.  But that lets me get a sort of guest pass if I should want to go inside the thing.

Normally I wouldn't.  Normally I'd stay the hell away from such a concentrated gathering of politics.  But there's one thing that goes on there that I think was mentioned on Pharyngula last year.  They have space where people can set up tables to promote things, I know little about it except that every year they have these creationists set up a booth to promote creationism.  I had assumed they were following the codeword trends so that they would have been using ID and then switched to teach the controversy and then strengths and weaknesses, but I've been told they were still calling it creation science.

So I'm baffled.  It would appear that these guys are trying to get people to consider teaching something long deemed illegal.

I want to check them out.  Plus I want to see the crowd vacuum effect.  I'm also told that the crowd tends to avoid them, since they try to engage people that pass by to start feeding them the propaganda.  So what happens is the crowd stays away from them and you get a gap surrounding the table.  Like a repulsion field powered by ignorance.

I also want to get a taste of their standard arguments.  I know they've been reported to use the "I know some professor in some school somewhere that assures me that more and more scientists are starting to doubt evolution" gambit, and I'd like to know just who this professor is, what school he works at, and what his field of expertise is.

I also just want to ask them if they realize that if teachers do what they're asking them to do, they'd be breaking the law.

I'll pick up the pamphlets they're offering, and if there's any interest in this I could write up a report on them, but I don't really expect them to be anything new.  The impression I get is that they're more of a sad, pathetic holdout than a bold new attempt to subvert science education in order to promote religious indoctrination.  The current trend of academic freedom bills in state legislatures is not good.  These guys, on the other hand, I don't think even register on the radar of education subversion.

I would like to find out what the rules are regarding such exhibitions, though.  I'm a little unclear how the NEA could allow people to promote something that's illegal.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,18:43   

Bravo to you if you can go to the NEA thing and snag a couple of pamphlets.  Don't forget to wear the silver cross your Mom got you when you were ten - you'll get extra pamphlets that way.

re:  booth space for ID law breakers - I think the NEA are just being good old-fashioned capitalists here, and renting space to make money.  I think that the Marketing wing of the NEA is licking their collective chops, and thanking The Designer that Teaching Teh Controversy allows them to take the ID money with plausebal deniability.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Nomad



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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,19:11   

That is an interesting interpretation.  Mine had always been that they were a sort of painfully politically correct organization, and that I assumed that they must have all sorts of regulations about non discrimination.  So when some religious wackadoodles show up and want space they bend over backwards to be nice and accommodating in order to show how fair they are.

Perhaps there's a certain attempt to prevent criticism as well, I seem to recall that someone had alleged the NEA was part of the evil darwinist conspiracy because it decided what students would be taught.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,20:19   

Quote (Nomad @ June 24 2008,19:11)
That is an interesting interpretation.  Mine had always been that they were a sort of painfully politically correct organization, and that I assumed that they must have all sorts of regulations about non discrimination.  So when some religious wackadoodles show up and want space they bend over backwards to be nice and accommodating in order to show how fair they are.

Perhaps there's a certain attempt to prevent criticism as well, I seem to recall that someone had alleged the NEA was part of the evil darwinist conspiracy because it decided what students would be taught.

I guess I'm a little more cynical than you... but you're young, you have plenty of time before you have to start thinking the worst about people, and politics and IDists.

HEY!  YOU DAMN KIDS GET OFF OF MY LAWN!..

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2008,20:26   

I did a couple of summer things early--Grand Canyon backpack in mid-April (ya don'ts want to do it in mid-summer, too frickin' HOT!) and a visit down to SoCal during which I got to introduce my second cousin (who I hadn't seen in 47 years, not that I'm even that old...) to my college roommate.  A few drinkies and lots of good stories.

The Grand Canyon thing has been fodder for lots of fun with good ol' AF Dave Hawkins over at TalkRational.

Interestingly, eric murphy also went to the GC a few weeks later with his parents (even older than me, so they weren't actually backpacking down in the GC). which of course led to more good fodder, etc. ...

Given the gas situation, I don't know if I'll do any long trips this summer, but that still leaves lots of mountains to climb and lots of books to read and lots of yardwork to do, right here in the Pacific NW.

Not to mention the drinking.

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2008,23:28   

I had enrolled in a summer ceramics class.  I taught ceramics for many years. The first school classes I taught were middle school science for Spanish speakers, in 1971. Then the school added us to the "mentally gifted" classes, after the "retarded" Hispanics started to excel. I next taught high school science in 1972, specifically tenth grade "life science."

But, in my last year in high school I took ceramics. 1971 was the year I flunked sophomore orgainic chemistry at UCI. And starting in 1971, I taught pottery to UC Irvine students. 1971 was the year I built my first kiln.

These pottery associated activities, and flunking organic (well, really a "D" in the second session) were directly associated with my doctorate in 1976. I really liked science (just not organic chem), I really liked pottery. The ceramics program at UCI was dominated by a "minimalist" principal, Dept. Head, John Mason.

In a tale for another day, I incorrectly though that I could not study with John Mason. (I think that I was better off in science, but around 1973 I did become one of Jhon Mason's students).

So, I became an anthropologist who specialized in the study of ceramic technologies. Dissertation ensued following five years in the pottery making villages of Yucatan, Mexico. (And learning Spanish, and Yucateco Mayan).

I have had various ceramic projects in mind for over 30 years. So, I tried to sit through the first few days of a Community College ceramics class. It did not help that this was a school that fired me the same year I was named "Professor of the Year," and the Board of Trustees awarded me a "Certificate of Meritorious Service."

My pottery class teacher is a nitwit. I am better qualified to teach this class than he is.  I was told directly that independent projects were not allowed, so I can neither execute the projects I want to see done, nor avoid the obstructive piffle from the "teacher."

I quit today, day 2.

Edited by Dr.GH on June 25 2008,23:20

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,06:20   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ June 25 2008,20:26)
I did a couple of summer things early--Grand Canyon backpack in mid-April (ya don'ts want to do it in mid-summer, too frickin' HOT!)

So guess when Yr Humble Corrspt. is going to visit the aforementioned aforementioned?

Correct.

However, seeing that the Atlantic Ocean is currently trying to transplant itself into my back garden, anything involving sun would be welcome, Club Gitmo not excepted.

Also taking in SF, bits of National Parks, Vegas, driving down the coast, and gawping at LA.

Given the lax state of US laws on divorce, I have been careful to remove one potential ground for it by reserving a car with SatNav.

Yippee for the strong Euro/Dollar-up-the-Swannee!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,15:51   

Dr. GH:
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Dept. Head, John Mason.

Huh!  I was wondering who they named the "Mason jar" after.

The things ya learn on Teh Interwebs...!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,16:42   

A week in Gulf Shores, AL at the ocean's edge (actually that already happened & it was wooooonderful :p ) then various weekends pursuing Oncorhynchus mykiss with my trusty fly rod and playing amateur entomologist. Besides that, refreshing my knowledge of Muscular Dystrophy as I will be working with a student who has the disease next school year. Oh, yes, completing my last 50 lbs of my weight loss plan (85 lbs to date :D )

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,17:52   

Quote (Amadan @ June 26 2008,06:20)
Quote (Steviepinhead @ June 25 2008,20:26)
I did a couple of summer things early--Grand Canyon backpack in mid-April (ya don'ts want to do it in mid-summer, too frickin' HOT!)

So guess when Yr Humble Corrspt. is going to visit the aforementioned aforementioned?

Correct.

However, seeing that the Atlantic Ocean is currently trying to transplant itself into my back garden, anything involving sun would be welcome, Club Gitmo not excepted.

Also taking in SF, bits of National Parks, Vegas, driving down the coast, and gawping at LA.

Given the lax state of US laws on divorce, I have been careful to remove one potential ground for it by reserving a car with SatNav.

Yippee for the strong Euro/Dollar-up-the-Swannee!

First visit to The USA?  Are you a seasoned traveller? (Not in the k.e. New Guinne "seasoned traveller" maode, as his canibal friends like seasoning?

Tell all, and thanks again for the Eggs and Ham.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,17:55   

Quote (RF Brady @ June 26 2008,16:42)
A week in Gulf Shores, AL at the ocean's edge (actually that already happened & it was wooooonderful :p ) then various weekends pursuing Oncorhynchus mykiss with my trusty fly rod and playing amateur entomologist. Besides that, refreshing my knowledge of Muscular Dystrophy as I will be working with a student who has the disease next school year. Oh, yes, completing my last 50 lbs of my weight loss plan (85 lbs to date :D )

Whoa dude - or dudette!  You just can't come here, de-lurk and casually drop "I lost 85 pounbds" without sharing the "Secret Formula" for your diet!!!>???

LOu!  You are the moderator -  Make them tell!

But seriously, cool.  We can always see you on Oprah, right?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,18:00   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 26 2008,18:55)
 
Quote (RF Brady @ June 26 2008,16:42)
A week in Gulf Shores, AL at the ocean's edge (actually that already happened & it was wooooonderful :p ) then various weekends pursuing Oncorhynchus mykiss with my trusty fly rod and playing amateur entomologist. Besides that, refreshing my knowledge of Muscular Dystrophy as I will be working with a student who has the disease next school year. Oh, yes, completing my last 50 lbs of my weight loss plan (85 lbs to date :D )

Whoa dude - or dudette!  You just can't come here, de-lurk and casually drop "I lost 85 pounbds" without sharing the "Secret Formula" for your diet!!!>???

LOu!  You are the moderator -  Make them tell!

But seriously, cool.  We can always see you on Oprah, right?

Is that a formal call to support with evidence or retract the claim?

:)


ETA - Damn smiley button.

Edited by Lou FCD on June 26 2008,19:01

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,19:42   

Quote (Lou FCD @ June 26 2008,18:00)
Is that a formal call to support with evidence or retract the claim?

:)


ETA - Damn smiley button.

Yeah, that 's the ticket!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2008,19:53   

Going to start restoration of a 1966 VW Bug.  Got the compressor all wired up....aarrrrr...arrrrrr....

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2008,03:29   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 26 2008,17:55)
 
Quote (RF Brady @ June 26 2008,16:42)
A week in Gulf Shores, AL at the ocean's edge (actually that already happened & it was wooooonderful :p ) then various weekends pursuing Oncorhynchus mykiss with my trusty fly rod and playing amateur entomologist. Besides that, refreshing my knowledge of Muscular Dystrophy as I will be working with a student who has the disease next school year. Oh, yes, completing my last 50 lbs of my weight loss plan (85 lbs to date :D )

Whoa dude - or dudette!  You just can't come here, de-lurk and casually drop "I lost 85 pounbds" without sharing the "Secret Formula" for your diet!!!>???

LOu!  You are the moderator -  Make them tell!

But seriously, cool.  We can always see you on Oprah, right?

No real secret. Last December we (the Missus and me) joined a health club and I became addicted to exercise. I went from being North America's leading candidate for a massive coronary infarction to a reasonably buff gym rat over the last six months. I actually started last November at 338 lbs and am currently at 250 lbs. My goal is ultimately to be at 200 lbs.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2008,03:48   

Yeah don't hold yer breath on the Oprah thing - I'm trying to post photographic evidence - if somebody will provide me with direction, I'll put up an "in process" pic.

  
Advocatus Diaboli



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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,03:00   

Read more books. Meet more friends. Create a sock-puppet in UD.

I managed to meet Bob O' last night in a Finnish bar. It was fun and informative. Bob survived the shock of meeting someone who doesn't drink alcohol.

Later I had passionate kisses...

But not from Bob.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,04:01   

Someone who doesn't drink alcohol wasn't the problem.  A Finn who doesn't drink alcohol.  Now, that's a different matter.  It appears that not all watchmakers are blind, which is probably a good thing.

Yes, a good evening was had by both.  I didn't have any passionate kisses, but the cat did deign to sit on me.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,04:23   

Quote (RF Brady @ June 26 2008,17:42)
A week in Gulf Shores, AL at the ocean's edge (actually that already happened & it was wooooonderful :p ) then various weekends pursuing Oncorhynchus mykiss with my trusty fly rod and playing amateur entomologist. Besides that, refreshing my knowledge of Muscular Dystrophy as I will be working with a student who has the disease next school year. Oh, yes, completing my last 50 lbs of my weight loss plan (85 lbs to date :D )

Good for you. That's really impressive weight loss. I've been in a serious workout routine for about 3.5 months now and made drastic improvement. It's all about consistency. In my process, in the beginning, I was really out of shape, and could only swim a quarter mile, then after a few weeks, 3/8ths of a mile, after another few weeks half a mile, then 5/8ths, then 3/4ths, etc, etc. and at the moment I'm doing a mile in about 50 minutes. It's very important to keep at it. Discover your inner Nazi, who forbids you from quitting. Several times I've wanted to postpone a workout, only to discover that I had no choice.

I have to say, though, the 30 workouts or so which quadrupled my swim distance, were actually easier than losing so much weight. That requires constant vigilance. More power to you.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,04:26   

Quote (Bob O'H @ July 02 2008,05:01)
Someone who doesn't drink alcohol wasn't the problem.  A Finn who doesn't drink alcohol.  Now, that's a different matter.  It appears that not all watchmakers are blind, which is probably a good thing.

Yes, a good evening was had by both.  I didn't have any passionate kisses, but the cat did deign to sit on me.

I was dating a swedish girl and her dad and I were drinking buddies. He told me a joke:

Two Fins go to a bar. The bartender pours two shots of Gammel Dansk. One Fin takes the glass and holds it up and says, "cheers". The other fin says, "You going to drink, or you going to talk all day?"

He found it hilarious.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,04:30   

@Nomad:
If you make it to that stand, please share your experience with us by making some pictures ;) Sounds funny.
Anyway, I'll probably won't do much. I'll just work (yeap, summer vacation for students means work, woohoo) so I can pay for a laptop (about 700 euro's) and the schoolbooks I need for next year (apperantly about 600 euro's). Yay...summer... I should do something about my potbelly though, a 17 year old weighing over 90 kg's (even if he's almost 2 meters in length), isn't réally good.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,04:48   

Quote (stevestory @ July 02 2008,04:26)
Quote (Bob O'H @ July 02 2008,05:01)
Someone who doesn't drink alcohol wasn't the problem.  A Finn who doesn't drink alcohol.  Now, that's a different matter.  It appears that not all watchmakers are blind, which is probably a good thing.

Yes, a good evening was had by both.  I didn't have any passionate kisses, but the cat did deign to sit on me.

I was dating a swedish girl and her dad and I were drinking buddies. He told me a joke:

Two Fins go to a bar. The bartender pours two shots of Gammel Dansk. One Fin takes the glass and holds it up and says, "cheers". The other fin says, "You going to drink, or you going to talk all day?"

He found it hilarious.

Here's another accurate portrait of Finns:

A man travels across the plains, forests and rows a boat across a vast lake. He comes to a house on a hill. He enters it. A man is waiting inside. The traveller opens his backbag. He slams a bottle after bottle of booze on the table. All sorts of vodka and spirits. 40 bottles. Finally, one loaf of bread.
"What are we gonna do with all that bread?", The other man asks.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,07:17   

Plans for summer?

Work. Little possibility of parole or time off for bad behaviour.

Being a rereformed workaholic has its downsides.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,07:36   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 20 2008,00:20)
Welcome to Summer everyone.


Ahem. May I just point out that for some of us it's winter.

So whatever you plan to do get on with it, cos it's bloody freezing down here at the moment.  :angry:

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,07:45   

Ride my bike down lots of Kent and Sussex country lanes, learn Welsh and work when I must.

Now you don't often see those three things in one sentence.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,11:49   

J-Dog, my bad!  Somehow I have not read this thread until now.  When are you going to be in KC (if you haven't already been and gone)?

If BBQ of the Gods is still in your future, I know about 20 places you should go.  And I'm sure I can take some time off of grant seeking and show writing to buy you a beer.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,12:41   

Quote (blipey @ July 02 2008,11:49)
J-Dog, my bad!  Somehow I have not read this thread until now.  When are you going to be in KC (if you haven't already been and gone)?

If BBQ of the Gods is still in your future, I know about 20 places you should go.  And I'm sure I can take some time off of grant seeking and show writing to buy you a beer.

Blipey - No problem - Haven't gone yet - This is the weekend to visit Saginaw, MI.  Going to Mizzou in Columbia MO / KC / St. Louis is going to be in Aug.  Good thing it won't be hot and humid then...

I'll PM you if/when the Transportation Committee (Mrs. J-Dog) finalizes plans.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,13:54   

Ah, Saginaw, home of the coolest ex-post office in the country.



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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2008,15:29   

Quote (blipey @ July 02 2008,13:54)
Ah, Saginaw, home of the coolest ex-post office in the country.


No wonder a first class stamp costs .42 now...

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(Permalink) Posted: July 04 2008,18:18   

Albatrossity2 wrote:

 
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We're going to Scotland, where we will meet Louis for dinner somewhere near Edinburgh, and take him and Professor Steve Steve to visit Hutton's Uncomformity at Siccar Point. Thus we will have graduated from Darwin worship to the idolatry of an even more ancient deity, James Hutton


Since you're so very close to good ole' Norn Iron you really should pop over for a visit to the YEC capital of the world. I'm not quite sure if we're as bad as the US or not. Lot's of interesting geology, including the Giant's Causeway, a natural wonder that the YEC's have their eye on (like the Grand Canyon ):

http://www.dunlucechristianfellowship.com/?page_id=63

http://www.dunlucechristianfellowship.com/?page_id=65

though their campaign trail appears to have dried up somewhat.

Belfast is easy to get to from Scotland, only a short 2 hour ferry journey from Stranraer. The city itself has improved drastically over the last lot of years as well.

Me ? I have no plans at present. I'm having an extension built on the house so at the moment i'm annoying a builder ( and costing myself money ) by putting doors in the wrong places, slopy ceilings that are here and then gone etc. etc. The kids are off school for the next eight weeks so I'm going to be driven crazy. Can't wait till September.

By the way, the weather in the north and west of the UK is pretty awful at the moment. rain/heavy showers virtually every day, and after a beautiful May (one of the driest/sunniest for years). This summer beginning to remind me of '85. Another rotten one in these parts (that year had a nice May as well !).

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2008,14:49   

OK, Louis. Professor Steve Steve arrived in Kansas today, and is packing for his trip to Scotland, and a visit to Hutton's Unconformity. Hopefully we'll see ya soon.



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2008,17:48   

I work a second job (food service manager) in south Georgia. Here in the South, summer starts at the end of May (not in mid to late June, like in other parts of the country). School was out May 25, and I was at work by June 1. We return to school in mid August, rather than after Labor Day. Maybe we'll follow the rest of the country's example-it's DAMN hot in August-we had two weeks of 100+ F last year. Poor kids playing pre-season sports suffered.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2008,12:53   

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I was planning on attending TAM, but that went down in flames.  That was pretty much going to be the highlight of the summer for me.

What's TAM?

The Amazing Meeting.

There is a good video of Randi exposing Peter Popoff and other assorted frauds on youtube. Unfortunately, it is posted by the Rational [sic] Responder losers, but I just ignore their studied idiocy on other topics.

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