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Mr_Christopher



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:15   

You guys remember the Wedge Document, yes?  It was published around 1998/1999.

I got a kick out of reviewing their 5 year goals and 5 year objectives today.  Class, let's review them!

First, I'm sure you all remember the two Governing Goals:

1) To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies
2) To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.


(all science so far!)

And who could forget those 5 year goals:

To see intelligent design theory as an accepted alternative in the sciences and scientific research being done from the perspective of design theory.
To see the beginning of the influence of design theory in spheres other than natural science.
To see major new debates in education, life issues, legal and personal responsibility pushed to the front of the national agenda.


(say yes to science!)

And while you're howling, let's review the 5 year objectives:

1. A major public debate between design theorists and Darwinists (by 2003)

2. Thirty published books on design and its cultural implications (sex, gender issues, medicine, law, and religion)

3. One hundred scientific, academic and technical articles by our fellows

4. Significant coverage in national media:

Cover story on major news magazine such as Time or Newsweek
PBS show such as Nova treating design theory fairly
Regular press coverage on developments in design theory
Favorable op-ed pieces and columns on the design movement by 3rd party media
5. Spiritual & cultural renewal:

Mainline renewal movements begin to appropriate insights from design theory, and to repudiate theologies influenced by materialism
Major Christian denomination(s) defend(s) traditional doctrine of creation & repudiate(s)
Darwinism Seminaries increasingly recognize & repudiate naturalistic presuppositions
Positive uptake in public opinion polls on issues such as sexuality, abortion and belief in God
6. Ten states begin to rectify ideological imbalance in their science curricula & include design theory

7. Scientific achievements:

An active design movement in Israel, the UK and other influential countries outside the US
Ten CRSC Fellows teaching at major universities
Two universities where design theory has become the dominant view
Design becomes a key concept in the social sciences Legal reform movements base legislative proposals on design theory


How many goals and objectives did they pull off?

And Remember kids, Demsbki and Behe were key players in this grand scheme:

William Dembski and Paul Nelson, two CRSC Fellows, will very soon have books published by major secular university publishers, Cambridge University Press and The University of Chicago Press, respectively. (One critiques Darwinian materialism; the other offers a powerful altenative.)

Nelson's book, On Common Descent, is the seventeenth book in the prestigious University of Chicago "Evolutionary Monographs" series and the first to critique neo-Dacwinism. Dembski's book, The Design Inference, was back-ordered in June, two months prior to its release date.

These books follow hard on the heals of Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box (The Free Press) which is now in paperback after nine print runs in hard cover. So far it has been translated into six foreign languages. The success of his book has led to other secular publishers such as McGraw Hill requesting future titles from us. This is a breakthrough.


Remember, kids, Intelligent Design is science and don't let the satan worshipping darwinists tell you otherwise!

Ok I admit it, I love seeing these guys lose..Over and over and over and over...

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Steverino



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:31   

Love that document!

1) To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies

Question:  Was it the destructive scientific materialism that made Ted Haggard take it up the ass while doing drugs and singing "Afternoon Delight"?

Question: Was it the destructive scientific materialistic legacy that caused Evangelical Rev. Gary Aldridge to die while dressed up in two wet suits bound and gagged with a rubber buddy up his ass?

Question: Was it the destructive scientific materialistic legacy that convicted Dr. Dino for tax evasion?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:31   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Nov. 06 2007,18:15)
PBS show such as Nova treating design theory fairly

I hear they're getting that one very shortly.

NOVA will be completely ignoring the IDCS.  That's as good as it gets for the Intelligent Design Creationism Scam.  In all fairness, anything said about the IDCS would, and should, be derogatory in nature.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:44   

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In all fairness, anything said about the IDCS would, and should, be derogatory in nature.


and IMO laced with profanity and invective.  and you should spit afterwards.

but thats just me.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:48   

And maybe kick a little dirt, Billy Martin style.

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Assassinator



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,17:51   

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Ok I admit it, I love seeing these guys lose..Over and over and over and over...

Lose?? By the looks of it, they're getting more support by the people though. We gave them space to do so because we're a bit in an ivory tower, evolution has a huge PR problem. I don't see it as funny, but rather a bit dangerous.

  
Nomad



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,19:31   

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 06 2007,17:51)
Lose?? By the looks of it, they're getting more support by the people though. We gave them space to do so because we're a bit in an ivory tower, evolution has a huge PR problem. I don't see it as funny, but rather a bit dangerous.

I'm not so sure.  They're getting more attention, but at the same time their side keeps getting their butts whooped by the facts.  The creationism museum drew a lot of attention, but it wasn't exactly positive attention. Dembski had his ass handed to him by a grad student who reduced him to a stuttering mess in a public presentation.

It appears that for a bit they were winning small battles, getting to corrupt the science curriculum of a few places, but that's already starting to get reversed.  I think we're starting to see the backlash from the Bush supported wave of fundi-ism that had been sweeping the country.

The fact that fundie leaders keep getting caught with their pants down.. LITERALLY.. and things up their butt really doesn't help their side much.


Now I read that a Republican senator is starting to look into the finances of a group of prominent televangelists.

I'm well aware that they're not out yet.. but it sure looks like they're having a major meltdown.

  
someotherguy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,20:05   

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Nelson's book, On Common Descent, is the seventeenth book in the prestigious University of Chicago "Evolutionary Monographs" series and the first to critique neo-Dacwinism


. . .and has yet to be published.

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Altabin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2007,20:37   

Here's what I don't get.  The Discovery Institute is funded by mega-rich, scary homo-stoning theocrats.  They secretly put together a "Wedge Document" (MWA-HAH-HAH!!), planning to overthrow materialism through a carefully managed, semi-clandestine campaign of PR and intellectual corruption.  Creationism would be convincingly - really convincingly - repackaged as a branch of secular science, and no one would talk about religion.

Then they hand over the most public face of the whole movement - UD - to a bunch of Christ-bothering retards strung out on crystal meth (BA77, I'm looking at you).

When is Howard Ahmanson going to bang the big stick and demand WTF is going on with his investment.  If I were an evil, baby-eating theocrat like him, I would be making d@mn sure that everyone was the f*ck on-message every f*cking moment of the day.  And if they strayed one f*cking step off the "ID is an alternative science that is rapidly gaining ground in the scientific community" line, I would feed them to my f*cking dogs.

Sorry, started channeling him for a moment there.

But really - doesn't anyone care how their money is being spent?  Does Ahmanson call up Dembski and tell him he's doing a heckuva job?

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