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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2006,19:25    Why is this on-topic? Well, since a lot of the Dishonesty Institute's funding comes from Ahmanson, who was highly influenced by Rushdooney, this article about Rushdooney and colleagues is obliquely relevant to us. http://www.slate.com/id/2144522/?nav=tap3

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2006,02:08    The GOP Youth will take over the world yet. Gott mit uns. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2006,14:08    Ahmonson in fact sits on the DI Board of Directors, and he personally provided roughly one-third of the funding recieved by the Center for (the Renewal of) Science and Culture. For more on the political agenda behind Ahmanson, the creationists, and DI, see: http://www.geocities.com/lflank/fundies.htm -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Chiefley Posts: 2 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 11 2006,19:34    Lenny et al,   I am just now reading a very scary book called Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism.  Its written by Michelle Goldberg, a writer at Salon, who writes about the politics of the extreme left and right.     She traces the taxonomy of Rushdooney and all of his protoges, among other very scary things.  I have read a lot of books in this area, such as What Happened to Kansas, American Theocracy, The Rep War on Science (which are all pretty scary), but this is the one that really makes me want to draw the shades, turn out my lights and hide under the bed.  She has done her homework, is very articulate, and is appropriately horrified.   You might be way ahead of me on this one, but if not, I highly recommend this book.  You guys don't seem to scare too easily.

tacitus Posts: 118 Joined: May 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 11 2006,19:58    Hey Chiefley, dunno if you've come across this website yet, but Talk 2 Action is a weblog that keeps an eye on this type of stuff. While we should no underestimate the amount of trouble Dominionists and Reconstuctionists can cause, I'm not really too concerned that they will make much headway in America in the future. The Terri Schiavo affair was a salient moment in this debate. Conservatives tried to make this a "values voter" issue and were roundly rebuffed by the majority of people who were appalled by the government's attempt to intrude into this woman's private life. In isolation, they may be able to score some politcal points against evolution, but their wider agenda of bringing back an Old Testament-style rule of law will, if you forgive the Biblical illusion, fall upon stony ground. The only chance these people have of taking over the country would be after some terrible trauma  like a nuclear war or widespread terrorist biological attack, and frankly, if that happened we would have more important things to worry about!

Chiefley Posts: 2 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 11 2006,20:36    tacitus, I will bookmark that link immediately.  Thank you very much.  While I agree with your reading on this, my bigger concern is that they are one extremist group amongst many who share related goals.  Thats what bothers me. I am starting to want to wear hats with tin-foil on them after reading her book. Ms. Goldberg agrees with you on the idea that a disaster would be necessary to put groups like this into power, but she points out that disasters include a grave national disappointment over a lost war.  For example,  Naziism was abetted by Germany's loosing WWII.  She is not claiming that a disappointing outcome in Iraq would be sufficient, but she is properly concerned with whatever might help these guys acquire any amount of power.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2006,06:13    The biggest problem with the American Talibans future is the lack of a common enemy to mobilize the masses. They need more allies. Now that the Afghani Taliban are gaining ground........ there is hope for them. They will both be able to ban music, womens rights, education, homosexuals and kite flying yet. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2006,13:09    Quote (Chiefley @ July 12 2006,00:34) Lenny et al,   I am just now reading a very scary book called Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism.  Its written by Michelle Goldberg, a writer at Salon, who writes about the politics of the extreme left and right.     She traces the taxonomy of Rushdooney and all of his protoges, among other very scary things.  I have read a lot of books in this area, such as What Happened to Kansas, American Theocracy, The Rep War on Science (which are all pretty scary), but this is the one that really makes me want to draw the shades, turn out my lights and hide under the bed.  She has done her homework, is very articulate, and is appropriately horrified.   You might be way ahead of me on this one, but if not, I highly recommend this book.  You guys don't seem to scare too easily. I have read it and it is very very good. And while I don't think the nutters will ever be able to win through democratic methods (no one, after all, supports their agenda), they MIGHT be able to win through NON-democratic methods.  Which is where their coziness with the Neocons comes in. Me, I keep my hunting rifle well-oiled, just in case. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

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