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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,15:34   

I've been toying with the idea of switching for a year now.

Pros:
elegant OSX
Ease of setup/reinstalls
pretty hardware

cons:
less software
much more expensive
steve jobs's occasional insanity
dependant on one company

The machine i'm using at home is a Dell from 1999. At work I run lots of MatLab etc, but at home I just chat and read webpages. So I haven't been forced to upgrade. But I will need to decide, sooner or later, whether to switch.

anybody got any helpful advice?

   
sir_toejam



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,15:52   

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but at home I just chat and read webpages.


then buy whatever you can get the cheapest, which is likely the PC.

by the time you figure you might have some specific serious needs, you'll probably want to upgrade again anyway, and then you'll have more info to make your choice with.

bottom line, I can't see any reason for you to switch away from what you are already using.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,15:57   

but the apple's so pretty....

   
sir_toejam



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,16:02   

oh, well then...

:p

One thing i would note is that the new apples with the intel chips are getting fantastic reviews;

evidently the best combo of hardware/OS ever.

mucho dinero.

It's like buying a car.

you have to decide whether you really need a ferrari to drive to the grocery store.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,16:38   

If you want the stability that underlies OS X, then just go to freebsd.org and get the latest FreeBSD distribution for the i386 platform. You don't get the specific Mac window manager, but you can select from a variety of X Windows window managers.

Plus side: It's free. It's stable. It's well-documented. It has an amazing number of ported applications that you can install if you have an internet connection.

Minus side: The FreeBSD install and configuration assumes that you have some clue what you are doing.

You can avoid some of the minus side by getting the FreeSBIE distribution, which is a live-CD (you can boot your machine directly from the CD-ROM) that you can also install to your hard disk.

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Michael Tuite



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2006,17:16   

For me, a preference for the Windows operating system is not unlike support for intelligent design: I cannot fathom why any intellectually honest, thinking person would willingly choose such a demonstrably pernicious product. If your job, or your faith, forces one or the other on you and you lack the virtue and fortitude to resist then you deserve to wallow in the shadow of ignorance. Windows, like ID, is bad and bad for you. ;)

That being said, every Total Cost of Ownership calculation I have seen puts the price of a Mac well below the cost of a comparable PC. Just think, no more time and money spent battling viruses, trojan horses, spyware, addware, etc. As for the volume of software argument, who cares if there are 50 versions of solitaire for the PC? There is a tremendous Mac free/shareware community, especially in the sciences.

  
MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,03:20   

I use a Mac at home (where I have to look after it myself) and a PC at work (where I have an IT person who will do for me - eventually - all the things I don't have to do at home because I have a Mac).

I prefer the Mac to be honest.  It was plug and play before the term existed, it is very fast and a delight to use.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,03:26   

yeah, in terms of easy use/maintenence the mac seems to be the winner. now that they've moved to intel hardware it'll be better. my 1999 500 mhz dell running XP is faster than the eMacs I used at NCSU running OSX. I think I'll wait for them to iron out any bugs from the hardware change, and then get a Mac mini or something.

   
cogzoid



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,08:02   

I'll throw my 2cents in as well.

I switched to Mac two years ago, and I love it.  I think the effort they put into design really pays off.  Using my computer is easy and rewarding.  I won't say it is optimal, but what is?  It was worth the money for me.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,08:15   

"design"? design?? :0

  
MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,11:12   

Some of the (free) widgets are really cool   :D

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It's a necessary trip

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The girl with the pearl-driller's hands

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,12:10   

I've always had Macs and I can only recommend you to switch.

  
Jason Spaceman



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,21:31   

Out of curiousity, is it possible to install Windows on one of them new Intel Macs, like the MacBook Pro?

   
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2006,03:57   

It's not possible, currently. XP does not support EFI (the new mac equivalent of BIOS), and vista won't (except vista server).
However, I think it will be possible with some hack.

  
Tim



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2006,04:42   

Oh dear. Another opening of the Windows/Mac can of worms.

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That being said, every Total Cost of Ownership calculation I have seen puts the price of a Mac well below the cost of a comparable PC. Just think, no more time and money spent battling viruses, trojan horses, spyware, addware, etc.

Time and money spent battling viruses, trojan horses, spyware, addware etc?
All that's needed to fully and safely protect any system (windows or not) is ZoneAlarm (free) for a firewall and AdAware (free) for all spyware. As for viruses/trojans/worms, all that is needed is common sense (don't open email attachments from unverifiable sources or run unverified executables etc)
No time or money invested.

Here in the UK, Dell is now knocking out brand new PCs for less than 250, leaving Mac struggling (and so far failing) to reduce the price of their most basic systems to less than twice that.

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As for the volume of software argument, who cares if there are 50 versions of solitaire for the PC?
Ah, but its not just for solitaire that windows has a broader and better established software base. It is every type of software there is out there, except arguably desktop publishers (DTP); for whom Macs have long been the system of choice. The software I use for instance (development, software design/engineering and software analysis tools) are simply not available on the Mac.

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There is a tremendous Mac free/shareware community, especially in the sciences.

There is a tremendous free/shareware community for all types of utilities and software in all types of fields, no matter the OS.

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2006,10:31   

Steve, in case you haven't followed the news from the mac world, you can now install windows xp on an intel mac. 3D acceleration and bluetooth are not working yet, but I think a solution will be found soon.

http://windowsxp.onmac.net/

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2006,10:45   

Yeah, I just saw that. Since I don't do anything technical at home, I think when it comes time to upgrade I'll probably switch

   
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