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Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 20 2007,21:41    Robert O'Brien: http://huperborea.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html   Quote As I have previously written, I am surprised Hitchens was able to crawl out of the bottle long enough to write a book and air his vituperations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens   Quote He welcomes being attacked as a drinker 'because I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem.' He drinks, he says, 'because it makes other people less boring. I have a great terror of being bored. But I can work with or without it. It takes quite a lot to get me to slur.'"[62] Dinner with Hitchens would be an intellectual pleasure, sauce or no. Dinner with RO'B would feel like community service, and probably have to be in Chuck E Cheese's. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 20 2007,22:02    Damn. You just reminded me that Hitch was at Quail Ridge books last week, and I forgot to go.

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,07:19    Quote (Richardthughes @ May 20 2007,21:41) Dinner with Hitchens would be an intellectual pleasure, sauce or no. I've actually had beers with Hitchens -- he was giving a talk at Moravian College in Pennsylvania, and me and a couple other Wobblies went up to him afterwards, got into a conversation, and continued it at a nearby watering hole. (At various times, we used the same technique to have some nice conversations with Angela Davis, Martin Sheen, Ed Begley Jr, Noam Chomsky, and the Cuban Consul in New York.) As for Hitchens, he struck me (as indeed did many of the others we talked to) as an academic who was quite comfortable with political and economic theorizing, but who wouldn't be able to actually organize his way out of a wet paper bag. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,09:41    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 21 2007,07:19) Quote (Richardthughes @ May 20 2007,21:41) Dinner with Hitchens would be an intellectual pleasure, sauce or no. I've actually had beers with Hitchens -- he was giving a talk at Moravian College in Pennsylvania, and me and a couple other Wobblies went up to him afterwards, got into a conversation, and continued it at a nearby watering hole. (At various times, we used the same technique to have some nice conversations with Angela Davis, Martin Sheen, Ed Begley Jr, Noam Chomsky, and the Cuban Consul in New York.) As for Hitchens, he struck me (as indeed did many of the others we talked to) as an academic who was quite comfortable with political and economic theorizing, but who wouldn't be able to actually organize his way out of a wet paper bag. He seems to bang out the books / articles okay. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,13:44    I had to edit this post a bit. Robert O'Brien's here, and therefore he qualifies for the minimal courtesy of not being insulted.

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,13:50    No worries, although the thread may be bigger than just his Hitchens musings. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Robert O'Brien Posts: 348 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,14:54    Quote (stevestory @ May 21 2007,13:44) I had to edit this post a bit. Robert O'Brien's here, and therefore he qualifies for the minimal courtesy of not being insulted. I didn't mind, really, but thanks. -------------- Caeli enarrant gloriam Dei

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,15:02    Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 21 2007,14:54) Quote (stevestory @ May 21 2007,13:44) I had to edit this post a bit. Robert O'Brien's here, and therefore he qualifies for the minimal courtesy of not being insulted. I didn't mind, really, but thanks. No, fair enough, Robert. My apologies for calling you "BobTard". I shan't do it again. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,15:34    Hey, Richard, your mailbox is full. PS: Only homoes say 'shan't'. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,15:40    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 21 2007,15:34) Hey, Richard, your mailbox is full. PS: Only homoes say 'shan't'. :angry: Not any more - FtK keeps filling it up with HAWT pics. Homo -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2007,18:20    Quote (Richardthughes @ May 21 2007,09:41) He seems to bang out the books / articles okay. Yes, he's very good at philosophizing and theorizing. But if I were to put him in front of a picket line and place him in charge, he wouldn't have the faintest idea what to do. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,16:25    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 21 2007,17:20)       Quote (Richardthughes @ May 21 2007,09:41) He seems to bang out the books / articles okay. Yes, he's very good at philosophizing and theorizing. But if I were to put him in front of a picket line and place him in charge, he wouldn't have the faintest idea what to do. Sure he would. He'd bring a pocket-pal. Then he'd stagger distractedly down the street, mumbling something about "This frere bosteth that he knoweth helle/And God it woot, that it is litel wonder/ Freres and feendes been but lyte asonder," bumping me as he did so and making me spill my latte without so much as an apology. Scuttlebutt on the ship from those who have gone to conferences with him is that he's plastered a lot. "I drink to make other people less boring." Oh, sure - I've heard that before. So I think Lenny is spot-on, but I gotta tell you, when I saw Hitch go off on Falwell (on Dawkins' laptop, even! and I heard the phrase, "Chaucerian frauds," I could have kissed the man!   -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,16:29    Quote No worries, although the thread may be bigger than just his Hitchens musings. It would be almost impossible for it NOT to be. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,16:34    Quote (Kristine @ May 22 2007,16:25) Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 21 2007,17:20)         Quote (Richardthughes @ May 21 2007,09:41) He seems to bang out the books / articles okay. Yes, he's very good at philosophizing and theorizing. But if I were to put him in front of a picket line and place him in charge, he wouldn't have the faintest idea what to do. Sure he would. He'd bring a pocket-pal. ;) Then he'd stagger distractedly down the street, mumbling something about "This frere bosteth that he knoweth helle/And God it woot, that it is litel wonder/ Freres and feendes been but lyte asonder," bumping me as he did so and making me spill my latte without so much as an apology. :D Scuttlebutt on the ship from those who have gone to conferences with him is that he's plastered a lot. "I drink to make other people less boring." Oh, sure - I've heard that before. So I think Lenny is spot-on, but I gotta tell you, when I saw Hitch go off on Falwell (on Dawkins' laptop, even!) and I heard the phrase, "Chaucerian frauds," I could have kissed the man!  :D Love the way he destroys the creobots, half sozzled. Hannity - I'm talking to you, you big girls blouse! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,16:55    Quote (Kristine @ May 22 2007,17:25) but I gotta tell you, when I saw Hitch go off on Falwell (on Dawkins' laptop, even!) and I heard the phrase, "Chaucerian frauds," I could have kissed the man!  :D Hitch on Hannity and Colmes Quote If you gave Falwell an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox.

Robert O'Brien Posts: 348 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,18:05    Quote (Richardthughes @ May 22 2007,16:34) Hannity - I'm talking to you, you big girls blouse! Hannity annoys me. -------------- Caeli enarrant gloriam Dei

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,19:02    Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 22 2007,19:05) Quote (Richardthughes @ May 22 2007,16:34) Hannity - I'm talking to you, you big girls blouse! Hannity annoys me. Colmes is supposedly the liberal, not Hannity.

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,19:17    Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 22 2007,18:05) Hannity annoys me. I'll alert the media. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

The Wayward Hammer Posts: 64 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,20:57    I think we can all agree on one thing.  Whether we are liberals or conservatives, whether we are football fans or baseball fans, whether we listen to talk radio or NPR, whether we are men or we are Devo: Hannity is a complete idiot.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,13:13    Uh-oh. Consensus! Horrors! I said this over at Rev. Chimpy’s blog: Hannity makes everything personal. “My sister’s a nurse, so I don’t believe anything you say about nurses not liking Schwarzeneggar! I personally knew Jerry Falwell, so you’re just being mean, Hitchens! My dog pooped on the President’s shoe and I can tell you, George Bush wiped it up himself! He’s a nice guy, and you hate him, you hate this nice man! I'm personally offended by that, by you, and by everything! My wife baked cookies for Trent Lott, and lemme tell you, that guy is the best… I was there when Katrina… I know for a fact that Ann Coulter… I feel personally attacked when you say that Gingrich… And that offends me! It hurts me personally!” JHC, the stupid planet can’t decompose a leaf without Hannity being personally involved in some way! And excusez-moi, but men or Diva, if you please! -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,16:34    Quote My dog pooped on the President’s shoe and I can tell you, George Bush wiped it up himself! Good doggie! give that pooch a steak. obviously has the ability to recognize a defacto toilet when it sees one. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,16:45    I made that part up. But you get the gist. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,20:13    yes, I know you were making up things for effect. I know you made up that whole trip to the Galapagos thing too, cause you didn't make a thread here and show us all your pics. none of that, "but, it's already on my blog" stuff, either. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,23:08    Okay doke. I'll do it. But I'm a luddite about photos - I took a lot of film, so I have to scan the pics, plus my connection at home is still dial up, so... ...and it's already on my blog! -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,23:19    film and dial up. *shakes head sadly* -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,23:24    PHHHFFFF. I FINGER PAINT MY PICTURES AND SEND THEM EITHER BY CARRIER PIGEON OR SMOKE SIGNALS. HOMOS. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 23 2007,23:29    ah that explains it. you're supposed to TRAIN the pigeons first. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 24 2007,03:59    Pfffff fingers? Pictures? Pigeons? So evolved and modern you are. I have to rely on my unique biochemistry to make unusual and beautiful molecular outgrowths of primary metabolism to express myself artistically. Have you any idea how LONG that takes? And even then nobody understands my art. I don't hold truck with the modern nonsense. Louis -------------- Bye.

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 24 2007,15:45    Check out these groovy cats, from "Research Center for Religion in Society and Culture" Quote Bridging the Hitchens’ Gap Christopher Hitchens is an author with a masterful domination of language and a compelling use of irony, who writes about only one thing: Christopher Hitchens. ... here: http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith....ap.html -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

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