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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,02:25   

Now gawds mafia prepare to capture the ID brand name.

Pope Benedict XVI may reportedly embrace the theory of intelligent design, possibly heralding a fundamental shift in the Vatican's view of evolution.

This is going to be fun.

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Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,02:32   

Watch the Pope make a statement that endorses some sort of theistic evolution, which is then claimed as a victory by ID.

  
thurdl01



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,02:39   

It's interesting, the relationaship between the Catholic church and the ID/Creo movement.  Mostly the US movement to censor evolution is run by the same kind of fundamental protestants who don't consider catholics to be "real" christians, or worse yet, pagans.  Don't believe me, check out the writings of one Mr. Jack Chick on the subject.  Therefore whenever the Vatican comes out with something in support of evolution, it's easy to ignore, because it isn't "their" religion.  Yet I'm sure you're right that they will fall ass over teakettles rushing to say "SEE!  SEE!  POPE SAYS ID!"

Of course, when has the ID/Creo movement ever been known for internal consistancy of message?

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,04:34   

Yeah well it will be intersting watching the fundies deny that 'id/creationism  isn't religion' when the CC says 'we need to embrace id/creationism atheists are darwinists  and goddit not evolution'.

Gallileo will be spinning in his grave.

The CC will bring in their own version of creationism which seems to be some sort of fire cracker lighter for the big bang that retired soon after.

Next the CC will be saying the ark was real.

But why should they stay out of all the fun ?.....there is enough ridicule for all of them.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,05:19   

Quote (k.e @ Aug. 29 2006,09:34)
Gallileo will be spinning in his grave.

Or is his grave spinnig 'round him?

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fusilier



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,05:27   

Just surfacing from lurk mode.

Please be aware that, in 1950, Pius XII wrote an encyclical letter titled Humani generis, which states that there appear to be no theological objections to biological evolution.  John Paul II quoted that encyclical in his 1996 address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.  Benedict XVI is not going to say that his two most conservative predecessors were theologically wrong.

There is also the issue of the European vs. North American understanding of "design."  Certainly the DI will do everything possible to spin, but remember that the new Vatican Astronomer is another Jebbie.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,08:28   

Re "Next the CC will be saying the ark was real."

Well of course it was real - else how could Indiana Jones have found it? ;)

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2006,08:39   

Quote (thurdl01 @ Aug. 29 2006,07:39)
Yet I'm sure you're right that they will fall ass over teakettles

Nice! Must remember to add that one to my repertoire.

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