Joined: Jan. 2006
|Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Oct. 23 2006,20:25)|
|I'm sticking with the "Freeloader Hypothesis".|
Alas, I'm not typing it all out here. So you'll have to do a search for it over at the PT if you want to see it.
Here's the link to the comment at PT for The Freeloader Hypothesis, put forth by the Good Reverend Doctor.
If I may, just for reference...
|Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Apr. 20, 2006,18:37)|
|Re: the “Mars” hypothesis of religion:|
I’m more of the “Freeloader” hypothesis of religion. It goes something like this:
In most nonhuman primate societies, the Big Cheese, the guy in charge (and it is invariably a guy), is able to run things because he can beat up all challengers (or, in more socially-oriented nonhuman primate societies, he can build an alliance of others that will support him and beat up all his challengers). In the earliest human societies, that was probably true as well.
Alas, ruling by raw intimidation is, uh, kind of wasteful of energy, time and (once you develop effective weapons) members of the social group. So it’s an enormous advantage to coerce social members without using physical methods to do it. Enter “religion”.
It’s a given that all the members of the early human social group were frightened, awed and (most importantly) unable to explain or control the forces of nature. Enter the “shaman”, the guy with the “special ability” to understand and even control (or at least appear to) the unseen and incomprehensible supernatural forces (aka THE GODS). The Big Cheese, meanwhile, sees a powerful ally, and … voila. Organized religion. The Big Cheese is the Big Cheese not just because he can beat up anyone who challenges him, but he also has the shaman on his side — and that means he also has THE GODS on his side, who can REALLY REALLY beat up anyone who displeases them.
Oh, and by the way, social group members, we priests/Big Cheese are terribly busy all the time with this “communing with THE GODS” thingie (you don’t want THE GODS to send another drought like they did *last* year, do you?), so you can’t possibly expect *us* to, uh, you know, WORK or anything. We’ll leave that all to you wonderfully loyal social members, who will therefore please THE GODS and make them happy by doing whatever the shaman/priests tell you THE GODS want you to do. Such as, oh, give a portion of everything you produce to us – uh, I mean, to THE GODS. And if you don’t, by golly, THE GODS will beat you up really really bad. Just you wait and see.
Oh, and by the way, THE GODS want you to invade that tribe’s territory over there because I want its fruit trees — uh, I mean, THE GODS want us to punish that tribe for its sins, and THE GODS have graciously given us their land. So get to it. Me, I’ll be here with the priests, communing with THE GODS on your behalf.
And indeed, organized religion has been a tool of the political/economic ruling elite ever since. Heck, in the case of most ancient societies, it WAS the ruling elite.
And you know what? They STILL don’t do any work for their living.
Just thought I'd help.
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