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Jason Spaceman



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2006,16:10   

The NY Times has a story on the DI's "Dissent from Darwinism" petition.

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By KENNETH CHANG
Published: February 21, 2006

In the recent skirmishes over evolution, advocates who have pushed to dilute its teaching have regularly pointed to a petition signed by 514 scientists and engineers.

The petition, they say, is proof that scientific doubt over evolution persists. But random interviews with 20 people who signed the petition and a review of the public statements of more than a dozen others suggest that many are evangelical Christians, whose doubts about evolution grew out of their religious beliefs. And even the petition's sponsor, the Discovery Institute in Seattle, says that only a quarter of the signers are biologists, whose field is most directly concerned with evolution. The other signers include 76 chemists, 75 engineers, 63 physicists and 24 professors of medicine.

The petition was started in 2001 by the institute, which champions intelligent design as an alternative theory to evolution and supports a "teach the controversy" approach, like the one scuttled by the state Board of Education in Ohio last week.

Institute officials said that 41 people added their names to the petition after a federal judge ruled in December against the Dover, Pa., school district's attempt to present intelligent design as an alternative to evolution.


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Mr_Christopher



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2006,17:12   

What?  No mention of Project Steve? How's THAT for ignoring the controversy!

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Neotoma



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2006,18:39   

Project Steve is mentioned towards the end of the article.


[QUOTE] Opposing petitions have sprung up. The National Center for Science Education, which has battled efforts to dilute the teaching of evolution, has sponsored a pro-evolution petition signed by 700 scientists named Steve, in honor of Stephen Jay Gould, the Harvard paleontologist who died in 2002.[QUOTE]

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2006,22:04   

I thought project Steve was only biologists, and if I am correct, they need to do some more research.

  
Jason Spaceman



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2006,22:41   

Quote (guthrie @ Feb. 21 2006,04:04)
I thought project Steve was only biologists, and if I am correct, they need to do some more research.

Project Steve isn't limited to biologists.  For example, Stephen Hawking (no biologist he) signed the Project Steve petition.

   
Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2006,02:17   

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“We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”
Firstly, although this list is often contrasted with project Steve, I see no reason why someone couldn't honestly sign both. Secondly if it read [QUOTE]We are skeptical of claims for the ability of natural processes to account for the complexity of life. We believe that the scientific evidence overwhelmingly points to an intelligent designer being responsible for the creation and adaptation of life on earth." It might represent their position a little better.

  
Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2006,02:29   

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I see no reason why someone couldn't honestly sign both.
This is an important observation. Unlike the "Steve" statement, which makes a point of actually making a point, the Disco statement is pretty much meaningless. I would have no problem signing it, except for the fact that its only reason for existence is to bolster the illusion that "the" controversy in evolutionary biology is the one Johnson, Chapman, West, Luskin, etc., are on about.

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