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dougp59 Posts: 9 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,15:25    www.evolutionsucks.org  Where we fish for the truth on the theory of evolution.  Take our 7 question quiz, post on the blog, e-mail the author. Our site now ranked #1 on page 1 of search results on Google and Yahoo using keyword phrase "Evolution Sucks"  We rank higher than the Simpsons "Evolution Sucks" episode!

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,15:28    Too late.  ID/creationism is already dead.   Game over. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,15:30    Quote This site was created by Douglas Peterson and has ZERO affiliation with the University of California Museum of Paleontology  or the National Science Foundation or the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. I think that's pretty obvious at first glance.

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,16:28    Quote (dougp59 @ Oct. 31 2006,21:25) www.evolutionsucks.org  Where we fish for the truth on the theory of evolution.  Take our 7 question quiz, post on the blog, e-mail the author. Our site now ranked #1 on page 1 of search results on Google and Yahoo using keyword phrase "Evolution Sucks"  We rank higher than the Simpsons "Evolution Sucks" episode!   Doug, Come here with some humility and an open mind and these folks will teach you more than you can imagine about evolution. Try it.  You might be surprised. Scary EDIT:  Why not post your 7 questions here and ask for responses.  Again, you might be surprised.

Russell Posts: 1082 Joined: April 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,16:30    Evolution sucks? Nah... you're thinking of gravity. -------------- Must... not... scratch... mosquito bite.

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,16:37    Offer a better, testable theory and we'll consider it with open minds. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,16:59    Oh my, even as creo sites go, "Evolution Sucks" really sucks ass. -------------- Evolander in training

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,17:50    Quote (dougp59 @ Oct. 31 2006,21:25) www.evolutionsucks.org  Where we fish for the truth on the theory of evolution.  Take our 7 question quiz, post on the blog, e-mail the author. Our site now ranked #1 on page 1 of search results on Google and Yahoo using keyword phrase "Evolution Sucks"  We rank higher than the Simpsons "Evolution Sucks" episode!   Well golly, that must mean you're right! It's just another one of those asinine fundy sites that tries to rope in teenagers by being 'hip', which simply ends up looking stupid. Though I must admit, it often reads as though a 15-year-old with bad spelling wrote most of it. A piece of advice, junior: try coming up with a theory, research, and evidence. Science is not won by who can come up with the most stupid websites or who comes first when googling the phrase 'evolution sucks'. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,18:10    what's more, the site steals imagery from the berkely evolution site. oops. better take that stuff down right quick, junior, 'afore you get known for something other than saying "evolution sucks" -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,18:13    Quote (Ichthyic @ Nov. 01 2006,00:10) ...junior... You would think this is some young kid, but according to his blog he is a 46 year old father of three.  Makes you wonder.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,18:19    DougP53, are you a Young Earth Creationist, or an Old Earth Creationist?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,18:26    Quote Evolution Question Number Six; Ever hear of the Bacterial Flagellum? Upon electron microscope examination, it looks very much like a machine! In fact, it bears a strong resemblance to an outboard motor, you know, the kind you see on the back of those small aluminum-fishing boats. Any way, the Bacterial Flagellum is what scientists call an “irreducible complex system”. An irreducible complex system is made in such a way that if you take away any one part of the system, the system ceases to function.  A good example of this is the common mousetrap.  Take away any one part, and it ceases to function.  In the case of irreducibly complex organisms, taking away any one part causes it to die. Question #6   The theory of evolution says that less complex organisms evolved into more complex life forms.  How could the Bacterial Flagellum have evolved from a lower life form? What is its' transitional fossil? This thread could become one of the Great Ones.

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,18:28    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 01 2006,00:19) DougP53, are you a Young Earth Creationist, or an Old Earth Creationist? His blog states he is a YEC: http://evolutionsucks.blogspot.com

Crabby Appleton Posts: 250 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,20:34    Quote (dougp59 @ Oct. 31 2006,21:25) www.evolutionsucks.org  Where we fish for the truth on the theory of evolution. Don't you mean you "fist" for the truth? Open mind my fundament! Edit, oops he asked for free not open minds. Has Dan Quayle returned?

mcc Posts: 110 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,21:03    Site doesn't work for me. Doesn't even ping.

Crabby Appleton Posts: 250 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,21:05    OK I took the test! Question 1. Goddidit! Question 2. Goddidit! Question 3. Goddidit! Question 4. Goddidit! Question 5. Goddidit! Question 6. Goddidit! Question 7. Goddidit! WHAT DO I WIN DOUG? It better not be a set of ginzu steak knives or you're gonna be dodging them sucka. Has the Taxi Driver finally found a Doorman to play second fiddle for him?

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,23:05    Doug, you may want to check talkorigins.org.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2006,00:05    What a wonderful website. I don't think it got even one thing right. A stopped clock is right twice a day and this chappie can't even manage that. Hilarious! I love the fact that ID is NOT creationism, the site clearly shows this. {giggle, snicker, guffaw} Louis -------------- Bye.

Occam's Toothbrush Posts: 555 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2006,02:26    What a rich source of tardation!  I mean, the first three words you see on the site are... UNDERSTANDING EVOLUTION SUCKS! Obviously they think so, since they've made no attempt to understand evolution or apparently anything else.     Quote Make no mistake, the theory of evolution is definitely objectionable AND inadequate and it definitely sucks. followed immediately by     Quote If you are closed or narrow minded about the theory of evolution, please leave now.  Only those with a free mind that are willing to be objective about the theory of evolution need enter. So, um, you need to have a free mind and be willing to be objective about....having already decided that evolution is objectionable and inadequate.  OK. Then we've got the hot-off-the-presses evolution news that the fundies lost in Dover.  10 months ago. UNDERSTANDING EVOLUTION SUCKS SUCKS! -------------- "Molecular stuff seems to me not to be biology as much as it is a more atomic element of life" --Creo nut Robert Byers ------ "You need your arrogant ass kicked, and I would LOVE to be the guy who does it. Where do you live?" --Anger Management Problem Concern Troll "Kris"

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2006,04:20    Quote (ScaryFacts @ Nov. 01 2006,00:13) Quote (Ichthyic @ Nov. 01 2006,00:10) ...junior... You would think this is some young kid, but according to his blog he is a 46 year old father of three.  Makes you wonder. Yes, like what school Doug went to. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2006,05:19    Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Nov. 01 2006,08:26) What a rich source of tardation!  I mean, the first three words you see on the site are... UNDERSTANDING EVOLUTION SUCKS! Obviously they think so, since they've made no attempt to understand evolution or apparently anything else.     Quote Make no mistake, the theory of evolution is definitely objectionable AND inadequate and it definitely sucks. followed immediately by     Quote If you are closed or narrow minded about the theory of evolution, please leave now.  Only those with a free mind that are willing to be objective about the theory of evolution need enter. So, um, you need to have a free mind and be willing to be objective about....having already decided that evolution is objectionable and inadequate.  OK. Then we've got the hot-off-the-presses evolution news that the fundies lost in Dover.  10 months ago. UNDERSTANDING EVOLUTION SUCKS SUCKS! I'm sure Doug thought the binding was UNDERSTANDING (EVOLUTION SUCKS) too bad the real binding was (UNDERSTANDING EVOLUTION) SUCKS

robindch Posts: 3 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2006,06:07    From http://www.evolutionsucks.org/what.htm "Does God Exists?" Grammar sucks too.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,07:35    Oh, it be like dat, uhh? Links be broken 'n s**t. Yo, "Teacher click here" don't work, ayyight? Like you don' know? Fool, God be over at my place, chillin' and eatin' nachos. Fool. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,07:38    Quote (Kristine @ Nov. 05 2006,13:35) Oh, it be like dat, uhh? Links be broken 'n s**t. Yo, "Teacher click here" don't work, ayyight? Like you don' know? Fool, God be over at my place, chillin' and eatin' nachos. Fool. Kristine channeling Mr. T.

qetzal Posts: 311 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,08:18    Quote In the case of irreducibly complex organisms, taking away any one part causes it to die. Ever seen a man with one leg? Proof positive that humans are not irreducibly complex. This guy sounds dumber than AFDave. [shudder]

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,08:49    Quote Ever seen a man with one leg?...This guy sounds dumber than AFDave. LOL! Ever seen a man blog while missing a brain? No wonder he thinks evolution sucks. Jealous, that's all. I've just nicknamed him "Box'a'rox." Box'a'rox, if you think evolution sucks, just remember that gravity is the "strongest force in nature." The sucky UD website ought to be right up your intellectual alley.   Quote By the way, gravity is the strongest force in nature. It overwhelms the electromagnetic force to form neutron stars. It overwhelms the weak nuclear force to form quark stars. And finally, when it overwhelms the strong nuclear force, a black hole is formed. Thanks for playing. --DafTard -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,08:56    Wait, did afdave really say that?  Oh my!  I don't know jack shit about physics, and yet I am still aware are laughably, ridiculously wrong that is. edit:  I see now that it wasn't afdave who said this, but instead was that other great font, Dave Scot.  Even better! edit: I just finished reading the entire UD thread where that quote was found.  Awesome.  I wish DS was given as much free-reign now as he was back then.  His constant self-fallation brings a joyous tear to my eye! -------------- Evolander in training

Altabin Posts: 308 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,09:23    It's a frightening thought, but there's probably a whole lot of people out there who actually are impressed by UD - presumably most of the regular posters at least.  We look at UD and see a scene from the Marat-Sade; they look at it and think, "Gee, I wish I could get me a website that good; if only I could be as smart as William Dembski."  Seems that this guy is one of them. --------------

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,09:30    Yeah, that particular thread at UD was like a funny, original insult hurled from Krystal Carrington to Alexis Colby just when you thought "Dynasty" was sucking beyond repair. Quote if only I could be as smart as William Dembski I must confess to wishing that I could be smart enough to make beaucoup $$$ just sitting on my cute behind instead of racking up student loans. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,09:38    BTW, DafTard is my name for Dave Scot. I do not know this AFDave. Hmmm, someone introduce me? Quote We look at UD and see a scene from the Marat-Sade Marat-Sade! [Falls out of chair laughing, picks self up, wipes away tears.] With somnabulist Denyse O'Leary as Charlotte Corday, love it. But no one is willing to get near her, so it can't be the orgy scene at the end. That is how I imagine it going down at UD ultimately. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Reluctant Cannibal Posts: 36 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,10:58    Heads up, everyone -- dougp59 has posted his seven questions over in the rather inactive Intelligent Design forum. Lenny Flank has noticed them, but you might not if (like me) you generally just watch AtBC. I had a pop at one of the low-hanging fruit, because I'm not often first at the crime scene.

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,10:58    AFDave is AtBC's resident Youn-Earth creationist.  His hilarious hijinx can be witnessed here. -------------- Evolander in training

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,11:16    Question 1: Can you show the transitional fossils that prove ANY of this? ***Note to Douglas Peterson: Science doesn't deal in absolute, immutable "truths". Math does. Ethanol deals with proof, too.  See this explanation: http://www.carlton.srsd119.ca/chemical/Proof/default.htm . Also, Douglas, just to anticipate your ignorant imminent response: your personal incredulity is meaningless in this, k? Answer:  Yes, I can: Fossils (hominid and other) http://www.origins.org/articles/chien_explosionoflife.html (precambrian) http://www.swcp.com/~diamond/trilobites.html (some precambrian) http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~pgore/geology/geo102/precamb.htm http://www.tim-thompson.com/trans-fossils.html (transitionals) http://www.holysmoke.org/tran-icr.htm (transitionals) http://members.aol.com/darwinpage/transitionals.htm (transitionals) http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/fossil_series.html (transitionals) http://www.cmnh.org/dinoarch/2000Jul/msg00315.html (on the nature of transitions) http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/links/pages/Physical_Anthropology/ (human) http://www.indiana.edu/~origins/links/evolinks.html   http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ances_start.html   http://www.wsu.edu/gened....w1.html (human)   http://www.stanford.edu/~harryg/protected/evolve5.htm (human)   http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/illustr.html (human)   http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/evol.html (human)   http://www.bioanth.org/ (human)   http://doherty.ldgo.columbia.edu/~peter....ol.html (human) http://intelligentdesign.edwardtbabinski.us/cow_evolution.html (cows and bats) http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/HorseEvolution.htm http://darla.neoucom.edu/DEPTS/ANAT/whaleorigins.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans http://www.swcp.com/~diamond/trilobites.html *********************************************************************** Question 2 If we are prepared to say that an inference of intelligence detected from far away originating radio waves must be proof of intelligent life (the designer of the radio signal), then why is an inference of intelligence in complex living systems here on earth not proof of an intelligent designer of that complex system? Answer See question 1 as to "proof" in science. Now, show me your evidence that led you to an inference and I'll weigh it in terms of logical justification. Got any, Douglas? *********************************************************************** Question 3 Given the large numbers of species in the fossil record extant in Cambrian fossil beds, explain why fossil beds beneath them are devoid of transitional fossils? What mechanism was responsible for this vast array of species suddenly appearing in the fossil record? Answer: Obviously, you have no clue as to Vendian-Precambrian fossils, Douglas. Check the links I gave you above on the Precambrian and Ediacaran fauna as well as :http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vendian/critters.html and http://www.palaeos.com/Ecology/Biota/Ediacara.html *********************************************************************** I'm already bored with this, Douglas. You're typical of the simpletons that try to forward "ID" by attacking NeoDarwinian Evolution, Douglas,  as if your views are the default "answer"...even though you can't support ID with any actual evidence. Shoo, Douglas, you're not even a good troll, you're just a lamentably average one. Shoo. -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,11:20    Quote (Reluctant Cannibal @ Nov. 05 2006,16:58) Heads up, everyone -- dougp59 has posted his seven questions over in the rather inactive Intelligent Design forum. Where? EDIT: Ah, I see. http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....=SF;f=2 And he was kind enough to create 8 new threads there for them. What a great guy.

Reluctant Cannibal Posts: 36 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,11:36    Quote Where? EDIT: Ah, I see. http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....=SF;f=2 My bad, I should have thought to do the link. Maybe I should have left the threads to die in peace. BTW, I think it's amusing that a YEC should naturally choose the "Intelligent Design" subforum for his ideas. Apparently he isn't fooled by the ID =/= creationism thing.

guthrie Posts: 696 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,11:48    So whats this MArat-Sade then?  Please enlighten me.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,11:57    Quote So whats this MArat-Sade then?  Please enlighten me. Ah, this is a job for Humanities Girl! Marat-Sade (The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat As Performed By the Inmates Of The Asylum Of Charenton Under The Direction Of The Marquis De Sade) is a play by Peter Weiss (and a movie by Peter Brook). De Sade stages a play in the asylum in which he's been incarcerated of the French Revolution for a bunch of bourgeois hypocrites. Rent it and watch it--it's not to be missed. It's like Jean Genet on LSD. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

guthrie Posts: 696 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,13:30    Ooooook, I could tell it was some kind of humanities cultural reference, but the only high culture I into is music- I was listening to some Rameau overtures this afternoon.   I'm afraid it doesnt sound like anything I would want to watch, espcially since I dont know who Jean genet is either.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,16:49    Whoa. Thanks for the link on AFDave, but I don't think I want to ride his bus all the way to his destination. Eeeeek. Quote since I dont know who Jean genet is either If you did, you wouldn't call it high culture! Aw, come on, rent the movie. It's a scream, but ultimately political. It's got a young Glenda Jackson. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Altabin Posts: 308 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,20:58    Quote (Kristine @ Nov. 06 2006,05:49) Aw, come on, rent the movie. It's a scream, but ultimately political. It's got a young Glenda Jackson. Funny, I've always imagined that in ID: The Movie, the middle-aged Glenda Jackson would play William Dembski. --------------

Henry J Posts: 5760 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2006,07:27    Re "Science doesn't deal in absolute, immutable "truths". Math does. Ethanol deals with proof, too." Of course, in math the proofs are relative to some set of axioms, which themselves were obtained by trial and error - i.e., experimentation (even if not physical experiment). Re Ethanol "proof" -

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