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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:26   

Obviously creationists want to smear science with anything they can think of from Nazis to acne.  But I think they are really getting-off on their repressed sexual fantasies more typical for the 1950s and '60s.  Here are a couple of images from that era to illustrate my point.  The first is an advertisement from a 1953 "men's magazine."



The title, "Eugenics and Sexual Harmony" is simply weird.  The ad copy is loaded with sexual dominance themes.

Then there is this book cover that stands as an example from an entire genera of Nazi sex fantasy;



Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 25 2008,15:28

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:37   

"Eugenics and Sex Harmony" looked older to me than the 50's and 60s - and a quick Google diddle shows that it is:



From the Eugenics Archive.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:41   

Far out!  Those repressed lil' buggers.

Thank's.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:57   

By Herman H. Rubin, M. D., author of "The Glands of Life."

Now there's an ID theory I hadn't considered.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,18:01   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 25 2008,17:26)

Does FTK know they are using her image???!!!

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EyeNoU



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:18   

Are you sure that is FtK's image? It does say "Adults Only" in the lower right corner. She is "For the Kids".........

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,23:20   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 25 2008,15:37)
"Eugenics and Sex Harmony" looked older to me than the 50's and 60s - and a quick Google diddle shows that it is:
From the Eugenics Archive.

I read the sample pages, and now I need to read the entire book as a reference for my new book.

Dang!  These jokes always twist back to bite.

I ordered the 1933 edition.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 25 2008,21:33

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Nomad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,04:31   

I don't know... when I read "MASTER of LOVE" I imagine Barry White playing in the background, the lights turned down low, candlelight, rose petals scattered over the bed...

And then I read about the freebie book on the rhythm method of birth control, and I imagine the short time until the candles are put away, the Barry White is shelved, and the parents are too busy changing diapers to make romance.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,12:51   

I ran into a book called The Origin of Life at an estate sale. It turned out to be a "marriage" manual. Sadly they were asking more than I wanted to pay.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,13:11   

Ummmmm, am I the only one who got wood looking at this?*

Louis

*Given that most of the people on here are about 90 I'm probably the only one who can actually get wood. Obviously Arden claims he can, but we all know differently. After all that website, www.ardenchatfieldishunglikeachinesemouseandhaserectiledysfunction.com, leaves very little to the imagination.

P.S. It should be obvious to all and sundry that the above is all intended as humour. Unless of course FTK snips the P.S. again! Oh now THAT was funny!

P.P.S. On topic: religious fundamentalists projecting and sublimating sexual fears as a whole swathe of other spurious problems? Say it ain't so! Surely the cliche of the sexually repressed loudmouthed proselytising anti-sex fundamentalist is sufficiently well documented to make some psychological sense? ;-)

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,17:58   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2008,13:11)
Ummmmm, am I the only one who got wood looking at this?*


Yes.

 
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Given that most of the people on here are about 90 I'm probably the only one who can actually get wood. Obviously Arden claims he can, but we all know differently. After all that website, www.ardenchatfieldishunglikeachinesemouseandhaserectiledysfunction.com, leaves very little to the imagination.

Whoa, check out who's logged on:

 
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Specifically,

 
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Louis? Call for you.

[holds out phone in direction of whatever Welsh sheepfarm it is that Louis lives at*]

[*if you call that living.]

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,20:37   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2008,11:11)
Ummmmm, am I the only one who got wood looking at this?*

Louis

*Given that most of the people on here are about 90 I'm probably the only one who can actually get wood. Obviously Arden claims he can, but we all know differently. After all that website, www.ardenchatfieldishunglikeachinesemouseandhaserectiledysfunction.com, leaves very little to the imagination.

P.S. It should be obvious to all and sundry that the above is all intended as humour. Unless of course FTK snips the P.S. again! Oh now THAT was funny!

P.P.S. On topic: religious fundamentalists projecting and sublimating sexual fears as a whole swathe of other spurious problems? Say it ain't so! Surely the cliche of the sexually repressed loudmouthed proselytising anti-sex fundamentalist is sufficiently well documented to make some psychological sense? ;-)

I worked on a murder as a defense expert.  The prosecution argument was that the torn and fractured body was the result of protracted torture.  (the facts were otherwise)  I bought a pile of videos and print magazines of some very ugly torture that was voluntary, recreational "sex."  

They were never used in the case, but they freaked out my tax accountant until I pointed out the autopsy photos were much worse, and that I had to pay taxes on my fees.  I think that the Nazi=sex=guilt+sin is a part of the fundy rejection of science.  Not a big part, but the whole abortion, "abstance only," submissive wifey bit is all of a piece.  Phil Johnson and DI supporter Ahmanson are frothing anti-gay.  It is worth more than a footnote.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 26 2008,18:39

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,23:24   

My wife and I love reading, and regularly go to bed early and read.  I often read case notes in bed at night.  It turns out that when I am reading/viewing something particularly terrible, I say, "Oh my."  I don't say "holy fucking shit!" or anything like that.  I just say, "Ohmy."  

My wife has picked this up, and when I say "ohmy" she always demands to see what I am looking at.  I always tell her that it is a really bad one, and she replies, "I know- let me see it"  I think she does this so that I won't be alone. Many people who work in forensic studies start thinking that they are alone- that only colleagues can understand.  My wife checks that tendency merely by looking at the really bad stuff.

We attend meetings for science teachers.  Between dinner and desert there was a business meeting, and a lecture. One particular lecture was by a forensic scientist, and he had a fairly mild slide show of murder scenes, rape examinations, autopsies and so on.  A considerable number of people left the auditorium, a few went out and vomited.  My wife leaned over to me and whispered, "I feel bad that I don't feel bad."  "Sweetheart, you have seen worse at home in bed," I replied.   :O  There were lots of extra desert that night.   :D

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2008,04:03   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 27 2008,02:37)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 26 2008,11:11)
Ummmmm, am I the only one who got wood looking at this?*

Louis

*Given that most of the people on here are about 90 I'm probably the only one who can actually get wood. Obviously Arden claims he can, but we all know differently. After all that website, www.ardenchatfieldishunglikeachinesemouseandhaserectiledysfunction.com, leaves very little to the imagination.

P.S. It should be obvious to all and sundry that the above is all intended as humour. Unless of course FTK snips the P.S. again! Oh now THAT was funny!

P.P.S. On topic: religious fundamentalists projecting and sublimating sexual fears as a whole swathe of other spurious problems? Say it ain't so! Surely the cliche of the sexually repressed loudmouthed proselytising anti-sex fundamentalist is sufficiently well documented to make some psychological sense? ;-)

I worked on a murder as a defense expert. The prosecution argument was that the torn and fractured body was the result of protracted torture. (the facts were otherwise) I bought a pile of videos and print magazines of some very ugly torture that was voluntary, recreational "sex."

They were never used in the case, but they freaked out my tax accountant until I pointed out the autopsy photos were much worse, and that I had to pay taxes on my fees. I think that the Nazi=sex=guilt+sin is a part of the fundy rejection of science. Not a big part, but the whole abortion, "abstance only," submissive wifey bit is all of a piece. Phil Johnson and DI supporter Ahmanson are frothing anti-gay. It is worth more than a footnote.

Why do I get the feeling that this story ends with the words "And that your Honour is why....."?

;-)

Louis

P.S. Chatfield, now now, envy is such an ugly emotion.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2008,05:54   

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... I think that the Nazi=sex=guilt+sin is a part of the fundy rejection of science.  Not a big part, but the whole abortion, "abstance only," submissive wifey bit is all of a piece.  Phil Johnson and DI supporter Ahmanson are frothing anti-gay.  It is worth more than a footnote.


Now they can add Darwinist's are necrophiliacs!

But they are in good company there are whole sections of the bible devoted to love of death.

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