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niiicholas



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2003,19:45   

IDEA club (/center) responds to Project Steve in their page:

Scientists and other Intellectuals that Doubt Darwinism and other Naturalistic Theories of Origins
An incomplete and continually updated list


I hadn't seen this page before, but Casey Luskin (and perhaps others...) compiled all the various lists of creationist scientists, DI list-signers, etc.  This is actually a useful service as we can see how many Steves there are in all the lists put together (note that the net is quite wide, being very much international and non-biology specific).

At the end Luskin says there's 9 Steves in the list.  For your enjoyment, here they are (the list is in subsections but the numbers are cumulative as different lists are appended):

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14. STEPHEN MEYER (Ph.D. in History & Philosophy of Science University of Cambridge), currently professor of philosophy at Whitworth College.

43. STEPHEN FAWL, Ph.D. Chemistry, Napa Valley College

106. Steven Austin, PhD Geology (Pennsylvania State University). See his biography.

229. Stephen Brocott, Ph.D. Organometallic Chemistry (University of Western Australia). Listed on the Institute for Creation Research Creation Scientists Page.

237. Stephen Taylor, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering (University of Liverpool). Listed on the Institute for Creation Research Creation Scientists Page.

347. Stephen W. Deckard (Ed.D. Univesity of Sarasota), Assistant Professor of Education. See his bio on the Answers in Genesis website.

349. Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist (Ph.D. (1981), University of Western Australia in the field of organometallic chemistry of optically active metal complexes), Adjunct Professor of Chemistry at an Australian University. Member of Royal Australian Chemical Institute and American Chemical Society. See his bio on the Answers in Genesis website.

398. Stephen Huxley, Ph.D., Professor of Information and Decision Modeling at the University of San Francisco as seen in his involvement with the IDEA 2002 Conference at USF.

454. Steven Gollmer, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Physics, Cedarville College


In case you weren't counting:

Number of (probable) YECs: 5

Number of biologists = 0.  Organometallic chemistry is as close as they get...

nic

Edited by niiicholas on Feb. 27 2003,19:46

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2003,20:17   

From the IDEA club page linked above:

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But if you think that essentially no one trained in the sciences, particularly the biological sciences, is skeptical of Darwinism, or if you think that the "argument-from-authority" is a persuasive or conclusive argument in this issue, then please at least consider the modest presentation of Darwin-skeptics on this list. We don't expect to -- and never wanted to -- convince you that so much scientific opinion is on our side that therefore we are right--that argument, which some Darwinists use, discourages critical thinking, which we value very highly. We simply hope that this list might help show that intelligent people do question Darwinism, such that you might want to shift your eyes back to the evidence, and take a second (or first) look at the scientific evidence of this issue yourself. We are happy to invite you to peruse the articles on our website in the process.


The DI list was not offered just to substantiate an existential claim of dissenting scientists.  The DI also makes the claim that ID is a rapidly expanding community which will shortly displace evolutionary biologists.  As Glenn Morton has shown, such claims even predate Darwin.  As "Project Steve" shows, the scientific community shows no sign of changing its demographic profile on evolutionary biology.

Wesley

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