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Mr_Christopher



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2007,21:32   

I thought the DI/IDiots losing in Dover was supposed ot "galvanize" christian support for IDC?  Dipski said he was expecting the financial mother load for IDC support.

Just another one of Dempski's delusions?

Anyhow, there is something poetic about the DI begging for money.  

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And take a gander at the IDiotic graphic:



Question - how is the DI (or Dempski for that matter) any different than Benny Hinn Ministries?  Basically they run the same scam on the very same people.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2007,21:36   

Could someone produce a better graphic than the DI's, only with

"Bypassing
scientific inquiry
is un-American"

?

If I get a chance, maybe I'll do that and get some CafePress items going.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2007,23:19   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 19 2007,21:32)
I thought the DI/IDiots losing in Dover was supposed ot "galvanize" christian support for IDC?  Dipski said he was expecting the financial mother load for IDC support.

Just another one of Dempski's delusions?

Anyhow, there is something poetic about the DI begging for money.  

Help Support Academic Freedom by Supporting Discovery Institute

And take a gander at the IDiotic graphic:



Question - how is the DI (or Dempski for that matter) any different than Benny Hinn Ministries?  Basically they run the same scam on the very same people.

We should all sign up over there and donate $0.01 apiece.  It would cost the morons much more than that in overhead fees to process each donation.  :D

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IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,08:34   

Ok, please explain to the slow Brit....What the hell is the mania the USA has with being patriotic?

I mean good grief, "Un-American"? Did I just step into the 1950's or something? What is the big deal that people over there have about not being patriotic = being an evil terrorist who wants to hurt Uncle Sam? I'M unpatriotic, I really don't see the point in loving a humanly defined area of land just because you were born or live there. That doesn't mean I HATE my country, I just don't hold it up as a paragon of absolute beauty and wonderfulness (is that a word?) just because I wasn't born in Uganda, or Australia, or anywhere else.

It always seems to me that if you don't try all out to show (at least once, to convince people) that you're USA all the way through, all of a sudden you're selling weapons to Osama and ready to blow up Capitol Hill to show those damn Yanks what for.

It's insane.

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Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,08:56   

American xenophobia is a Cold War relic that won't die.

Actually, on further thought, I think it predates the Cold War. The earliest reference to American paranoia/patriotism in what seemed something like its modern form that I remember reading was in response to the Anarchists and propaganda of the deed. The whole mess was considered Europe's fault, and the xenophobia was ripe and huge. Subversives, terrorists, communists, and anarchists lurked around every corner, with poisoned knives, lit bombs, and French accents.

The specifics have changed since, but the spirit seems very much the same, doesn't it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,09:10   

Right down to the French accents, oui.

Le Bob

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Mr_Christopher



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,10:05   

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What the hell is the mania the USA has with being patriotic


Keep in mind who the DI is appealing to.  Not the sharpest crayons in the box as they say.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,11:02   

Just a reminder about who DI is appealing to.  

John West, Associate Director of DI's Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture, is giving a talk at the Faith and Law Forum, an organization whose purpose is formulated thusly:
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Faith and Law is a volunteer, nonprofit organization that seeks to examine the vocational implications of a Christian worldview so congressional staff can better understand the significance of their faith in their calling to the public square. It promotes Christian worldview development through regular (one or two per month) Faith & Law lectures, bi-weekly worldview reading groups, and a semi-annual “Great Objects Day” for senior staff to deepen their understanding of one critical politico-cultural issue at a time.


All science so far!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,12:57   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 19 2007,20:36)
Could someone produce a better graphic than the DI's, only with

"Bypassing
scientific inquiry
is un-American"

?

If I get a chance, maybe I'll do that and get some CafePress items going.

I don't have a graphic, but I thought I'd loosen it up a bit.

How about:

"If you like
their cell phones during your movie,
you'll LOVE
their 'intelligent design' during science class."

(Kind of a rip-off of, "If you liked school you'll love work.")

Or how about: "Keeping intelligent design out of science class is like turning off your cell phone at the movies. It's not censorship - it's sanity." :)

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,13:13   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 24 2008,12:57)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 19 2007,20:36)
Could someone produce a better graphic than the DI's, only with

"Bypassing
scientific inquiry
is un-American"

?

If I get a chance, maybe I'll do that and get some CafePress items going.

I don't have a graphic, but I thought I'd loosen it up a bit.

How about:

"If you like
their cell phones during your movie,
you'll LOVE
their 'intelligent design' during science class."

(Kind of a rip-off of, "If you liked school you'll love work.")

Or how about: "Keeping intelligent design out of science class is like turning off your cell phone at the movies. It's not censorship - it's sanity." :)


Kristine = Little Miss Marketer Extraordiniare

I like both your slogans.  Can we teach both sides?

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,13:28   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 24 2008,12:13)
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 24 2008,12:57)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 19 2007,20:36)
Could someone produce a better graphic than the DI's, only with

"Bypassing
scientific inquiry
is un-American"

?

If I get a chance, maybe I'll do that and get some CafePress items going.

I don't have a graphic, but I thought I'd loosen it up a bit.

How about:

"If you like
their cell phones during your movie,
you'll LOVE
their 'intelligent design' during science class."

(Kind of a rip-off of, "If you liked school you'll love work.")

Or how about: "Keeping intelligent design out of science class is like turning off your cell phone at the movies. It's not censorship - it's sanity." :)


Kristine = Little Miss Marketer Extraordiniare

I like both your slogans.  Can we teach both sides?

"Teaching 'both sides' is like having to kiss 'both sides.'"

HAHAHAHAHA! [With a graphic of someone pointing to his ass, or something.] ;)

Yes, steal them, if they're worth anything.

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