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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,13:31   

It's never going to approach Mornington Crescent in depth or seriousness (it's just too damn easy!), but ID Eugenics is an amusing pub game.

The rules:
1. Pick a prominent creationist or IDist
2. find a link to the eugenics movement.

I'll go first:

1. Discovery Institute benefactor Howard Ahmanson
2. was on the board of directors of the Council for National Policy
3. which had previously been led by Thomas F. Ellis
4. who had been a director of the Pioneer Fund.

Four moves. How many links can you find?

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Assassinator



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,14:38   

Huh? IDers/crea's are actually using the eugenics/moral "argument" against evolution sometimes but judging the start post of this topic they're actually linked sometimes with groups involved in eugenetics?? My my, talk about hypocrisy, that's almost an understatement.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,16:36   

How about direct endorsement?

FtK on Young Cosmos:

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Oh, and as for neutering the ATBC boys…hey, I’m all for it.


Edit: Oh, you said prominent. My bad.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Dec. 05 2007,16:36

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skeptic



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,17:42   

That is unbelievably ironic!  I think this is worth looking into further.

  
Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,17:46   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 05 2007,16:36)
How about direct endorsement?

FtK on Young Cosmos:

   
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Oh, and as for neutering the ATBC boys…hey, I’m all for it.


Edit: Oh, you said prominent. My bad.

I'LL BE STARTING WITH YOU, ELSBERRY... :angry:

Feet in the stirrups*, big guy.


*I'm picturing a setup similar to a gynecological exam here boys.  *Chop chop*

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,19:17   

You kept tugging at mine but in never came off...





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steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:16   

IIRC, Dembski once unwittingly claimed eugenics as an intelligent design discipline.  I don't remember enough context to Google it though. It was one of his "people can intelligently design things, therefore intelligent design is the one true theory of origins" posts.

edit: no edits made this time.
edit: ignore last edit, I was stuck in a "Dollis Hill loop" when I made it.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:27   

Quote (Tom Ames @ Dec. 04 2007,14:31)
The rules:
1. Pick a prominent creationist or IDist
2. find a link to the eugenics movement.

I'll go first:

1. Discovery Institute benefactor Howard Ahmanson
2. was on the board of directors of the Council for National Policy
3. which had previously been led by Thomas F. Ellis
4. who had been a director of the Pioneer Fund.

Four moves. How many links can you find?

One move to a creationist, two moves to ID:


William J. Tinkle, eugenecist, founded the Creation Research Society,
Whose journal FTK linked to in her ID FAQ.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:54   

ID celebrity Jonathan Wells worships Sun Myung Moon,

And Moon is a believer in Eugenics

   
Venus Mousetrap



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,21:19   

Quote (steve_h @ Dec. 05 2007,20:16)
IIRC, Dembski once unwittingly claimed eugenics as an intelligent design discipline.  I don't remember enough context to Google it though. It was one of his "people can intelligently design things, therefore intelligent design is the one true theory of origins" posts.

edit: no edits made this time.
edit: ignore last edit, I was stuck in a "Dollis Hill loop" when I made it.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....rwinian

  
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