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Tom Ames Posts: 238 Joined: Dec. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,13:31    It's never going to approach Mornington Crescent in depth or seriousness (it's just too damn easy!), but ID Eugenics is an amusing pub game. The rules: 1. Pick a prominent creationist or IDist 2. find a link to the eugenics movement. I'll go first: 1. Discovery Institute benefactor Howard Ahmanson 2. was on the board of directors of the Council for National Policy 3. which had previously been led by Thomas F. Ellis 4. who had been a director of the Pioneer Fund. Four moves. How many links can you find? -------------- -Tom Ames

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,14:38    Huh? IDers/crea's are actually using the eugenics/moral "argument" against evolution sometimes but judging the start post of this topic they're actually linked sometimes with groups involved in eugenetics?? My my, talk about hypocrisy, that's almost an understatement.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4966 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,16:36    How about direct endorsement? FtK on Young Cosmos: Quote Oh, and as for neutering the ATBC boys…hey, I’m all for it. Edit: Oh, you said prominent. My bad. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Dec. 05 2007,16:36 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

skeptic Posts: 1163 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,17:42    That is unbelievably ironic!  I think this is worth looking into further.

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,17:46    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 05 2007,16:36) How about direct endorsement? FtK on Young Cosmos:     Quote Oh, and as for neutering the ATBC boys…hey, I’m all for it. Edit: Oh, you said prominent. My bad. I'LL BE STARTING WITH YOU, ELSBERRY... Feet in the stirrups*, big guy. *I'm picturing a setup similar to a gynecological exam here boys.  *Chop chop* -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

Richardthughes Posts: 11177 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,19:17    You kept tugging at mine but in never came off... *Hello bathroom wall!* -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

steve_h Posts: 544 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:16    IIRC, Dembski once unwittingly claimed eugenics as an intelligent design discipline.  I don't remember enough context to Google it though. It was one of his "people can intelligently design things, therefore intelligent design is the one true theory of origins" posts. edit: no edits made this time. edit: ignore last edit, I was stuck in a "Dollis Hill loop" when I made it.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:27    Quote (Tom Ames @ Dec. 04 2007,14:31) The rules: 1. Pick a prominent creationist or IDist 2. find a link to the eugenics movement. I'll go first: 1. Discovery Institute benefactor Howard Ahmanson 2. was on the board of directors of the Council for National Policy 3. which had previously been led by Thomas F. Ellis 4. who had been a director of the Pioneer Fund. Four moves. How many links can you find? One move to a creationist, two moves to ID: William J. Tinkle, eugenecist, founded the Creation Research Society, Whose journal FTK linked to in her ID FAQ.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,20:54    ID celebrity Jonathan Wells worships Sun Myung Moon, And Moon is a believer in Eugenics

Venus Mousetrap Posts: 201 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,21:19    Quote (steve_h @ Dec. 05 2007,20:16) IIRC, Dembski once unwittingly claimed eugenics as an intelligent design discipline.  I don't remember enough context to Google it though. It was one of his "people can intelligently design things, therefore intelligent design is the one true theory of origins" posts. edit: no edits made this time. edit: ignore last edit, I was stuck in a "Dollis Hill loop" when I made it. http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....rwinian

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