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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2007,08:45

Natural Selection

Clive James

The gradual but inexorable magic
That turned the dinosaurs into the birds
Had no overt, only a hidden, logic.
To start the squadrons climbing from the herds
No wand was ever waved, but afterwards
Those who believed there must have been a wizard
Said the whole show looked too well-planned for hazard.

And so it does, in retrospect. Such clever
Transitions, intricate beyond belief!
The little lobsters, in their mating fever,
Assaulted from the sea, stormed up the cliff,
And swept inland as scorpions. But if
Some weapons freak equipped their tails for murder
He must have thought sheer anguish all in order.

Source of all good and hence of evil, pleasure
And hence of pain, he is, or else they are,
Without a moral sense that we can measure,
And thus without a mind. Better by far
To stand in awe of blind chance than to fear
A conscious mechanism of mutation
Bringing its fine intentions to fruition

Without a qualm about collateral horror.
The peacock and the tapeworm both make sense.
Nobody calls the ugly one an error.
But when a child is born to pain intense
Enough to drive its family all at once
To weep blood, an intelligent designer
Looks like a torture garden's beaming owner.

No, give it up. The world demands our wonder
Solely because no feeling brain conceived
The thumb that holds the bamboo for the panda.
Creation, if the thing's to be believed —
And only through belief can life be loved —
Must do without that helping hand from Heaven.
Forget it, lest it never be forgiven.

(Poetry (Chicago), November 2006)

If I fly the coop some time
And take nothing but a grip
With the few good books that really count
It's a necessary trip

I'll be gone with the girl in the gold silk jacket
The girl with the pearl-driller's hands


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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2007,09:03   

Clive baby .....he's a tryer

But check this Squirrel lovers.

William Wordsworth’s best known work has been given a 21st century upgrade.


The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane


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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2007,15:25   

Violets are blue,
Roses are red.
Dembski's an idiot and
ID is dead.

Thank you, thank you.  Please send the Pulitzer to my crib.

Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11


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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2007,19:50   

A gentle breeze stirs the trees.
Wind's affect is what one sees.


360  miracles and more at:

Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5)

It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2007,19:54   

####.  Who let Zero out of his cage?  It's so tiresome to chase him back in . . . . .

Editor, Red and Black Publishers


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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2007,01:47   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ April 13 2007,19:54)
####.  Who let Zero out of his cage?  It's so tiresome to chase him back in . . . . .

Lenny's poem to Zero was shoite
Quite probably the worst of the night
It was only two lines
and I don't think it rhymes
disappointing from one who's so bright.

"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
" was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Bob O'H

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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2007,04:56   

I thought Zero was subtly criticising Dembski.


It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)


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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2007,07:10   

Quote (J-Dog @ April 13 2007,15:25)
Violets are blue,
Roses are red.
Dembski's an idiot and
ID is dead.

Thank you, thank you.  Please send the Pulitzer to my crib.

teh win

A look into DAVE HAWKINS' sense of honesty:

"The truth is that ALL mutations REDUCE information"

"...mutations can add information to a genome.  And remember, I have never said that this is not possible."

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