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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,08:18   

Biology Letters has this paper about a 390my old fossil found a few years ago in Germany.

The abstract:

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The fossil record has yielded various gigantic arthropods, in contrast to their diminutive proportions today. The recent discovery of a 46cm long claw (chelicera) of the pterygotid eurypterid (‘sea scorpion’) Jaekelopterus rhenaniae, from the Early Devonian Willwerath Lagerstätte of Germany, reveals that this form attained a body length of approximately 2.5m—almost half a metre longer than previous estimates of the group, and the largest arthropod ever to have evolved. Gigantism in Late Palaeozoic arthropods is generally attributed to elevated atmospheric oxygen levels, but while this may be applicable to Carboniferous terrestrial taxa, gigantism among aquatic taxa is much more widespread and may be attributed to other extrinsic factors, including environmental resources, predation and competition. A phylogenetic analysis of the pterygotid clade reveals that Jaekelopterus is sister-taxon to the genus Acutiramus, and is among the most derived members of the pterygotids, in contrast to earlier suggestions.


Scary.

Via CNN

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The discovery in 390-million-year-old rocks suggests that spiders, insects, crabs and similar creatures were far larger in the past than previously thought, said Simon Braddy, a University of Bristol paleontologist and one of the study's three authors.

"This is an amazing discovery," he said Tuesday.

"We have known for some time that the fossil record yields monster millipedes, super-sized scorpions, colossal cockroaches, and jumbo dragonflies. But we never realized until now just how big some of these ancient creepy-crawlies were," he said.

The research found a type of sea scorpion that was almost half a yard longer than previous estimates and the largest one ever to have evolved.

The study, published online Tuesday in the Royal Society's journal Biology Letters, means that before this sea scorpion became extinct it was much longer than today's average man is tall.

Prof. Jeorg W. Schneider, a paleontologist at Freiberg Mining Academy in southeastern Germany, said the study provides valuable new information about "the last of the giant scorpions."

Schneider, who was not involved in the study, said these scorpions "were dominant for millions of years because they didn't have natural enemies. Eventually they were wiped out by large fish with jaws and teeth."


Popcorn and nightmares, anyone?

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,12:21   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 21 2007,08:18)
Biology Letters has this paper about a 390my old fossil found a few years ago in Germany.

The abstract:

 
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The fossil record has yielded various gigantic arthropods, in contrast to their diminutive proportions today. The recent discovery of a 46cm long claw (chelicera) of the pterygotid eurypterid (‘sea scorpion’) Jaekelopterus rhenaniae, from the Early Devonian Willwerath Lagerstätte of Germany, reveals that this form attained a body length of approximately 2.5m—almost half a metre longer than previous estimates of the group, and the largest arthropod ever to have evolved. Gigantism in Late Palaeozoic arthropods is generally attributed to elevated atmospheric oxygen levels, but while this may be applicable to Carboniferous terrestrial taxa, gigantism among aquatic taxa is much more widespread and may be attributed to other extrinsic factors, including environmental resources, predation and competition. A phylogenetic analysis of the pterygotid clade reveals that Jaekelopterus is sister-taxon to the genus Acutiramus, and is among the most derived members of the pterygotids, in contrast to earlier suggestions.


Scary.

Via CNN

 
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The discovery in 390-million-year-old rocks suggests that spiders, insects, crabs and similar creatures were far larger in the past than previously thought, said Simon Braddy, a University of Bristol paleontologist and one of the study's three authors.

"This is an amazing discovery," he said Tuesday.

"We have known for some time that the fossil record yields monster millipedes, super-sized scorpions, colossal cockroaches, and jumbo dragonflies. But we never realized until now just how big some of these ancient creepy-crawlies were," he said.

The research found a type of sea scorpion that was almost half a yard longer than previous estimates and the largest one ever to have evolved.

The study, published online Tuesday in the Royal Society's journal Biology Letters, means that before this sea scorpion became extinct it was much longer than today's average man is tall.

Prof. Jeorg W. Schneider, a paleontologist at Freiberg Mining Academy in southeastern Germany, said the study provides valuable new information about "the last of the giant scorpions."

Schneider, who was not involved in the study, said these scorpions "were dominant for millions of years because they didn't have natural enemies. Eventually they were wiped out by large fish with jaws and teeth."


Popcorn and nightmares, anyone?

Hey - I liked that movie!  

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,13:01   

Oh come on, this is what you should have been reminded of:



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,13:08   

I am reminded of a tale told by the lead singer of the all female rock band "Vixen". The Scorpions were keen to tour with Vixen for a variety of reasons, but primarily so that when their European tour reached their home nation of Germany the posters would read "Scorpions Vixen" in some configuration.

Which of course as any student of German knows means "Scorpions masturbate".

Hilarious and true (see Hard and Heavy volume...erm I forget)

Louis

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,14:02   

Actually, let's not forget that according to FTK, the earth is probably only 6,000 years old and that this beast (two of them) therefore had to be on Noah's Ark.

I'd ask FTK how Noah managed to feed and house two eight foot scorpions for almost six weeks, but Blipey's list of Questions FTK Refuses to Acknowledge is too long as it is.

:(


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,14:09   

Well, they could not have gone extinct before 1981, since they can be seen in Clash of the Titans.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,14:43   

Quote (Robert O'Brien @ Nov. 21 2007,14:09)
Well, they could not have gone extinct before 1981, since they can be seen in Clash of the Titans.

Well, was that really a Giant Scorpion, or just a normal scorpion after being exposed to radiation? If there's one thing I know from movies, it's that radiation makes things big.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,15:10   

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If there's one thing I know from movies, it's that radiation makes things big.


We don't need radiation in Texas, homo!  You should see the size of my blindness--amazing

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back into hiding in your mother's loo.

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Peter Henderson



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:04   

Thinking of Scorpions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taVW8Kv2HcQ

I was of course wondering how this critter would be interpreted by the YEC's.

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Actually, let's not forget that according to FTK, the earth is probably only 6,000 years old and that this beast (two of them) therefore had to be on Noah's Ark.


Am I right in thinking that "creepy crawlies" weren't on the ark Arden i.e. insects, spiders etc. ? Would this creature actually have been allowed on the ark or did it survive by floating about on rafts of wood ????? ( this is how some YEC's claim insects etc. survived the flood )

So before the fall what were those giant claws used for ? The mind boggles !

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:47   

Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 21 2007,13:21)
Hey - I liked that movie!  

re:  Your post - Just another reason why science kick's bible-believing's ass... reality wins.!11!!!1111!!one

As did I, though I saw it in the movie theatre and the giant scorpions did indeed give me nightmares for weeks.

I just recently saw it again for the very first time since then, and though I laughed heartily at the "special effects", and wondered what on earth scared the piss out of me back then, I again had scorpion nightmares.

Never laugh at childhood nightmares.  You just never get how much your unconscious mind has improved at scaring the bejeeezus out of you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:51   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 21 2007,15:02)
Actually, let's not forget that according to FTK, the earth is probably only 6,000 years old and that this beast (two of them) therefore had to be on Noah's Ark.

I'd ask FTK how Noah managed to feed and house two eight foot scorpions for almost six weeks, but Blipey's list of Questions FTK Refuses to Acknowledge is too long as it is.

:(


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Maybe Noah kept them in cryogenic storage.

I mean, why not?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,20:00   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 21 2007,20:47)
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 21 2007,13:21)
Hey - I liked that movie!  

re:  Your post - Just another reason why science kick's bible-believing's ass.

http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/grammar/using-s.htm

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,20:36   

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If there's one thing I know from movies, it's that radiation makes things big.


Especially gamma radiation - that can turn Bill Bixby into Lou Fouregno (sp?) with green paint.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,22:32   

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Am I right in thinking that "creepy crawlies" weren't on the ark Arden i.e. insects, spiders etc. ? Would this creature actually have been allowed on the ark or did it survive by floating about on rafts of wood ? ( this is how some YEC's claim insects etc. survived the flood )


So two 8-foot scorpions just floated on logs for 40 days, while little land mammals sat on the ark. Sure, why not.

 
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So before the fall what were those giant claws used for ?


Why, clipping vegetation, I assume! Much like how T-Rex's teeth were used for opening coconuts. Haven't you been paying attention? :angry:

You know what's real sick? FTK thinks that everything I just said here is MUCH more believable than evolution. :O

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,23:11   

Quote (Peter Henderson @ Nov. 21 2007,19:04)
Am I right in thinking that "creepy crawlies" weren't on the ark Arden i.e. insects, spiders etc. ? Would this creature actually have been allowed on the ark or did it survive by floating about on rafts of wood ?

Wasn't it a sea scorpion?

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