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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2008,17:52   

In this article in the Baptist Press about recent tenure denials at Baylor, they quoted Baylor flunk out William Dembski.  Why they quoted him over current Baylor employees is anyone's guess.  But I found this quote highly amusing

Dembski himself was at odds with some faculty members over Intelligent Design, a scientific theory that says certain patterns in nature are best explained as the product of intelligence rather than random material forces. In 2000, he was removed from his post as director of Baylor's Michael Polanyi Center for Complexity, Information, and Design after refusing to rescind a statement he made supporting Intelligent Design as a legitimate form of academic inquiry

Hmmm...Funny I recall the email he sent out said was something a bit more childish and viscious...Something more like....

The Michael Polanyi Center Peer Review Committee has now released its
official report ( and the Baylor
University administration has responded to the report
( As director of the
Center, I wish to offer the following comment:

The report marks the triumph of intelligent design as a legitimate form of
academic inquiry. This is a great day for academic freedom. I'm deeply
grateful to President Sloan and Baylor University for making this possible,
as well as to the peer review committee for its unqualified affirmation of
my own work on intelligent design. The scope of the Center will be expanded
to embrace a broader set of conceptual issues at the intersection of science
and religion, and the Center will therefore receive a new name to reflect
this expanded vision. My work on intelligent design will continue unabated.
Dogmatic opponents of design who demanded the Center be shut down have met
their Waterloo. Baylor University is to be commended for remaining strong in
the face of intolerant assaults on freedom of thought and expression.

THOSE are the statements Sloan asked Dembski to rescind.  Is the Baptist Press a bunch of liars or?

Oh, and here's Dembski's BU money shot:



Baylor University President Robert Sloan has removed me as director of the
Michael Polanyi Center despite his having personally solicited me to come to
Baylor and establish the Center as a means of furthering work on intelligent
design. Some Baylor faculty have exerted enormous pressure on Baylor to
disassociate the university from me and my research. Earlier President Sloan
had properly characterized these efforts as "intellectual McCarthyism."

Because I released a press statement (see below) applauding the results of
the peer review committee that passed upon and approved the academic
soundness of my work, I am now being labeled as not "collegial" and
the statement is said to have fatally compromised my ability to serve
as Director. My press release
allowed me publicly to state my full support for the results of the peer
review committee report. Having made that statement, I then expected to
proceed full steam ahead to implement the committee's recommendations by
expanding the scope of the center while still focusing my own research on
intelligent design -- just as the peer review committee recommended and
President Sloan agreed.

Instead, I was informed that my press release created a "firestorm" on
campus. Shockingly, the administration formally asked me to retract my press
release. I explained that the press release accurately conveyed how I
perceived the outcome of the peer review committee and that for me to
retract it would be tantamount to giving in to the censorship
and vilification against me that had been a constant feature since I arrived
on campus. I could not and would not betray all that I have worked for in my
professional career.

In the utmost of bad faith, the administration claimed my refusal to retract
my press release constituted a lack of collegiality on my part and charged
that this compromised my ability to serve as director, thereby providing the
fig leaf of justification for my removal. Intellectual McCarthyism has, for
the moment, prevailed at Baylor. The announcement of my removal from the
Polanyi Center directorship states that I am to be kept on in my capacity as
an Associate Professor in Baylor's Institute for Faith and Learning. I look
forward in that capacity to continuing to work on intelligent design and its

What a childish, nasty little girl boy Dembski is.  He had it made at Baylor and shot himself in the vagina foot.  What a loser.

Anyhow, I thought the gross violation of reality by the Baptist Press was interesting.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2008,21:43   

Gee... It's almost as if Baylor suspected the "non-collegial" Dembski to go crazy and tell people to call the Board of Directors at home and complain or something!

Well, it DID give Dembski plenty of time to do all those ID experiments and other sciencey-sounding stuff that have kept him so busy and gave him time to complete all of those peer-reviewed publications.

Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11


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(Permalink) Posted: April 04 2008,10:36   

Yeah Dembski had 5 years at Baylor with no classes to teach or even work to do.

What ID experiments did he conduct during those 5 years?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2008,11:32   

What ID experiments did anyone at Baylor conduct in those 5 years?

What ID experiments did anyone anywhere conduct in those 5 years?

What ID experiments did anyone anywhere conduct at any time?

Enquiring minds would like to know.

Oh, silly me!  Of course!  Baptists don't need experiments or enquiring minds.  They already have all the answers they need in their little black book.

No real point in looking for evidence for design if the Bible already says it was.

I set expectations at zero, and FL limbos right under them. - Tracy P. Hamilton

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